/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>39114017
Lemme help you out.
>Vshojo
The no filter experience. Invest in this coin only if you're comfortable with Twitch layout and culture.
>Hololive
The delusion experience. Invest in this coin only if you don't care about how real human being act. Though you may as well watch anime.
>Nijisanji
The real genuine fun experience. At least for JP (i don't watch EN so i can't tell fot them). Invest in this coin if you want the 2010-ish Utaite field experience, but this time even more real and not just in the form of edited videos.

ENTER

>>39114238
you are not helping me, nijinig

>>39114017
You little fuck I got cucked from posting a response to a thread that died for this and forgot to copy and had to write everything again
>>39097033
My rrat now is that Calli and Gura started drinking too much which if I remember correctly Kiara really dislikes so then drama originated from there

>>39114238
>Nijisanji
>The real genuine fun experience.

Yes but gay people

You'll end up casually watching like 2 of them and then fill up the rest of the time with normal streamers because vtubers now don't play up the character at all and they're just normal streamers with the novelty of an avatar, otherwise they're boring as fuck.

>>39114238
(You)

>>39114017
Phase connect.

>>39114309
You're not OP.
>>39114415
Only EN, maybe. That's what i heard anyway.

>>39114017
Your first mistake is limiting yourself to these 3

>>39114017
>vshojo
twitch culture, for better or worse
>holoen
nobody's streamin
>nijien
twitch culture but won't admit it

>>39114626
You can't be a Digimon, Yugioh and Pokemon fan all at once.

Two of them have girls that actually stream and the other is only coasting on the fumes of their bygone popularity, I fucking loved hololive but they dropped the ball hard this summer and the myth offcollab was the last time I was excited for anything involving them but that was a disappointment and a half, the magic is dead myth sucks and I fucking love my indie whores now

>>39114238
>Vshojo
peepee poopoo sex
>HololiveEN
Overall great chuubas, too bad many of them don't fucking stream.
>NijisanjiEN
There are a few good chuubas here and there but the branch is essentially peepee poopoo sex pt. 2

>>39115093
Lily’s model is so fucking crisp, how can Holo even compete with that? Fuck it, I love me some AAUUUGH and some womp womp

>>39114017
>Vshojo
peepee poopoo sex
>HololiveEN
Overall great chuubas, too bad many of them don't fucking stream.
>NijisanjiEN
There are a few good chuubas here and there but the branch is essentially peepee poopoo sex pt. 2

Choose anything but vwhoreo and you’re goodhell even phase connect is better than vshojo

>>39115532
Did you know that Lily actually stole her voice from Veibae?

>>39114017
>company
>company
>company
can't you choose a talent instead? why are you such a faggot?

>>39115987
Because the fun is in seeing the inner talent interact and do things together.

>>39114017
Isn't Niji now below Phase connect? Why are people stil acting like they're relevant?

>>39115897
You don’t need to list even more reasons to watch Lily. If people like Veibae’s voice but don’t like Veibae, then why shouldn’t other vtubers steal her voice? Seems like a perfect deal to me.

>>39114017
Don't.

>>39117421
Ok, as a Phase Connect fan who absolutely finds it hilarious that multiple Phase girls get more ccvs than multiple Niji streamers, I still have to say that this is an over exaggeration. NijiEN has, like, 30 vtubers. Phase has, what, 15? And that’s only the EN branch.
Anycolor’s strategy is to have a bunch of vtubers with small corpo numbers, but to have A LOT of them. Which is why numberfaggotry vis-a-vis Nijisanji isn’t useful for more than a bit of baitposting.
I appreciate the fact that most of the Phase girls are regularly getting 3views and often in kissing range of 4view territory, except Pippa, who’s solidly there. But “mobs NijiEN’s shitters” isn’t that much of a brag. It just means you’re a good small corpo.

Good thing you don't have to

>>39114017
>vshojo
lmao

You mean Phase Connect.

>>39115782
Phase who?

>>39118059
Wheres the hololive collabs anon?
phase who can’t get them

>>39114017
Pick holo, so that i won't have to see you in at least a year more

>>39114238
Damn this is some high level Sam Bankmen-Fried level of fraud

>>39118149
>phase who can’t get them
Mori has been interacting with Pippa lately. Let things progress and you might get that.

Just remember how shitty Hololive management were being about NijiEN but they had no problem with vshojo collabs despite being an awful company.

>>39114274
Don't fall for it bros, I made this mistake and this blue thing groomed me beyond repair.

>>39118254
you forget vshojo didn’t have talents that have openly talked about hololive rm dox

>>39118532
They had veibae shit all over the company and double down on calling hololive a black company.

Two JPs pushed out of hololive also got hired, the whole group should have got banned.

>>39118532
Mouse has doxxed Mori's roommate multiple times.

>>39114238
>Invest in this coin only if you don't care about how real human being act
As a misanthrope, I'll take all of what you got!

>>39118619
Better than shooting them I guess.

>>39114017
>hololive
if you like hololive and want a walled-off society where 99% of the collabs are with each other, pick this one
>nijisanji
if you want less filter and a semi-walled off society where outside collabs aren't infrequent, but aren't an every day thing, pick this one
>vshojo
if you want zero filter and a completely free society where everyone collabs with whoever they want, to the detriment of collabing with each other, pick this one
ez

>>39118592
Won’t happen lmao
>>39118619
Mouse good
Pippa bad

>>39114017
I assume you're only referring to the EN side of things, because VShojo JP only has two talents (Kson and Nazuna) and both of them are worth it for a variety of reasons. Nijisanji has 4 x 10^4 talents and Hololive has most of the most famous ones including some retarded rabbit that owns a monkey. So I'll just talk about VShojo EN and let everybody else talk about their whores.

VShojo is talent freedom, which the other org followers will seethe over, which allows them to do whatever they want, play any game they want without worrying about Japanese game companies bringing down ban hammers on them, and generally dominate the Twitch side of things. The talents include:

Froot (aka Apricot): Artist and APEX legends gremlin. NORF Britbong who is very sweet and arguably the most "seiso" (if you like that kind of thing) of the group.

Haruka Karibu: Literally autistic Canadian who is great at improv, coming up with skits where she argues with herself, and generally very cozy and happy vibes.

Hime Hajime: Oh boy do you want streams! Hime can't be stopped! Every year she does at least one! More known for her grandmother who is a noted YouTube anitube degenerate married to a Trash Taste guy.

Ironmouse: Queen of Twitch Vtubers in that she is the leader in most numberfagging categories, including connections. Knows practically everybody and practices unity whenever she can. Collabs with regular streamers, Nijis, Hololivers, indies, and some Welsh dude often. Has the voice of an angel and the mouth of a devil. Is Satan.

Kson: More of a YouTube streamer, Kson is pretty much a known legend to every org and vtuber fan, though not necessarily as Kson (long story). Japanese girl who spent her formative years in Georgia so she's got a southern bitch mentality and a mouth to go with it. Delinquent.

Projekt Melody: AI who started her career as a 3D vtuber camwhore on CB before making the jump to Twitch. Made camwhores seethe by mogging all of them with an anime girl avatar. A total dork, she has savant like intellect for everything hentai and sex but has the common sense of a pretzel. Arguably the most wholesome nerd you'll ever meet.

Himemiya Nazuna: Flat chested angel who has more notoriety as a former member of another organization or as an independent YouTube streamer, but is one of the sweetest little things you'd ever meet who has never done anything wrong ever. Into the GFE and promotes parasocialism, so bust out your money simp and get ready to enjoy having someone jealous you didn't show up to stream.

Nyanners: 4chan Oldfag who grew up and made pedos seethe. 100% /here/ dumbass who knows all the meme culture and exploits the shit out of it for entertainment. Highly creative content goblin who comes up with bizarre stream ideas and bits and is not above doing peepeepoopoo in every possible way. Pink cat good.

Silvervale: Cozy wholesome streamer with a teasing pervert side. Mostly a total MMO gremlin who loves the grind, but rarely ever streams that kind of thing because she's always worried it bores her chat. Instead will usually indulge in very comfy games that most people wouldn't play and typically has a genuine joy for game aesthetics that other streamers just lack. Has massive tiddies, too.

Veibae: The closest you'll get to a regular Twitch streamer while still being a vtuber. Complete and utter bitch to her chat and basically everybody as you would find in other toxic ass channels like xQc, but has a great sense of humor and is not above talking about anything at all. Also has a lack of common sense about a ton of shit and comes off as a total fucking moron at times (once confused Will Farrel with Will Smith but was referring to a character played by Eddie Murphy).

Zentreya: Old VRChat mute who does not use her real voice on stream and instead communicates with a speech-to-tex-text-to-speech systtem. Has a love hate relationship with her chat which results in a lot of back and forth banter and insults and is half the fun of watching her. A serious gamer who often malds when the game doesn't go right. People will bring up Zen's real gender but honestly nobody knows (equal chance being a dude and not, so deal with that as you wish).

There you go, that's VShojo.

>>39118945
Did you write all this?

I genuinely feel pity for the fresh newfags that had their first ever experience watching vtubers through Vwhorejo.

Hololive
>girls act like seiso idols
>swearing minimized, opposite-sex collab forbidden (until recently I guess??)
>boys get no views, girls get mega-views
>overwhelmingly male fanbase, strong presence of unicorns
Nijisanji
>notorious for spamming out tons of vtubers, has like 200 members, impossible to know everyone
>much greater talent freedom
>intergender collabs permitted, no limitations on the girls dating, or even being married while being a vtuber
>the most popular talents are all male
>super strong female fanbase, much less male. Although allegedly it's a 50/50 split (press x to doubt)
VShojo
>Collection of western women come together on twitch to form their own vtuber corp
>Largely disconnected from japanese culture, fully embrace twitch culture
>members openly have boyfriends/husbands, talk about sex all the time

Nijisanji was basically the model that Hololive used to copy its homework from. Although Hololive introduced idol culture, which is something male viewers really appreciate. Vshojo has a very bad reputation on this board, as you probably expect. If you like twitch culture I think you'd like them.

As for the EN branches?

HoloEN came first, they get huuuuge views, more than anyone else. Although there is a huge problem right now, because they're super lazy and none of their talents stream. They also tend to have fairly stilted and awkward social interactions with each other.

NijiEN followed Hololive into the EN market. The benefits of NijiEn are many -- The talents stream a LOT, there's like 30 of them, and they have very good social dynamics in general. However, this is not content for unicorns. They do intergender collabs ALL the time, they even do intergender OFFcollabs. And as is typical of Nijisanji, the male talents get almost all the views, and the fanbase is overwhelmingly female. That said, they do have some great girls.

Vshojo has Ironmouse, who is sort of a focal point of the EN vtubing community. Everyone loves her, she collabs with everyone and is friends with everyone. Very popular too. They also have Nyanners, who was actually one of the first EN vtubers and has a long sordid history with 4chan.

I would also encourage you to check out the smaller corporations. Phase Connect, Prism, Tsunderia, and Kawaii all have some good people on their roster. It's worth a look.

>>39119059
VShojo are essentially the 4chan streamers.

>>39114017
They're all the same at this point.

>>39114017
I'm actually surprised by how fair most of the posts ITT have been. This is an extremely rare thread.

>>39119059
Seethe

>>39114017
Phase Connect, kawaii, or Idol Corp.

>Vshoujo
Prostitution, males, SJW
>Hololive
Betrayed its core fanbase, males, Mori
>Nijisanji
Males and grossout "humor"

>>39120941
You will never be a woman.

>>39114017
Hololive but not EN. EN as a branch is doomed.

>>39119038
When you love a thing, anon, doing a lot of work never feels like a chore.

>>39121141
Why do none of you fags put in the effort to understand board culture and to try to appeal to the rest of the board then? I haven't seen proper pro-vshojo apologia in half a year.

check out lolisex theyre good

>>39114017
>twitch
>youtube
>males
It's pretty simple OP.

>>39121597
nta and not a vshojo viewer but I don't bother because a) it will be dismissed as shilling and b) anons tend to hate whatever is advertised /here/ that isn't Hololive and I can live without my oshi being hated on for existing.

>>39114017
Well Vshitshow is the obvious choice for the worst of the bunch.

>>39122224
Cope

>>39122224
Because they can't be your e-girlfriends?

>>39114017
Why not, it's the same shit

>>39114017
If Niji at least be good as the latest wave or you will be shit on

>>39114017
Good news for you, you don't pick. Your oshi picks you.

>>39121597
I've been on /vt/ since it started, helped push the VShojo thread into existence despite the kicking and screaming of /vt/, so I have done nothing but bathe in tribalfaggot hatred for almost two years while getting it up the ass from our sister thread on /pmg/ because we dared to discuss non-camwhores seriously. Eventually, when you're getting it from all sides, you stop giving a fuck what the rest of these faggots have to say nor do you care to engage in futile efforts to change people's minds. Cynicism won out, basically.

The real question is, why did I bother doing it today? Not sure. Might be just because I'm enjoying the Survivor event Nyan put on being such a success that I felt inspired. Could also be that this thread's general lack of toxicity made me think "eh why not". I could also just be temporarily insane.

>>39114017
Trying to judge as fairly as I can:

>Hololive
Pick this if you like your chuubas to behave in a fairly clean, generally PG-13 manner. R-13 or even R-16 content is rare, but possible, and happens with a few JPs such as Marine. If you are a lonely male, this is also generally the prime choice for GFE, as there is a generally solid segregation between the male and female talent.
Cons: EN girls barely stream nowadays, with many of them obviously burnt out and having very irregular schedules. Management gets overbearing with the talent a lot of times; cancelled projects and lack of permissions hound the company frequently.

>Nijisanji
Caters to a very wide range of audiences and niches. Generally has everything from PG-13 to R-16 content. Not ideal for those seeking GFE experiences as there is a lot of intermingling between male and female talent, but some males ironically provide heavy BFE in spite of this. Pick if you want something that’s not too sanitized, but not to the point of being completely about adult humor.
Cons: VERY LARGE size makes it occasionally difficult to follow happenings between livers via streams. Plenty of livers mean while there are some that will cater to your tastes, there will also be some you will be inevitably averse with.

>Vshojo
Mainly hosted on Twitch. Generally R-16 content, some outright R-18 but hosted off-Twitch on sites such as Chaturbate. Mainly adult humor, but some like Ironmouse tone it down. No formal management and is free from JP copyright shenanigans, so prides itself on “talent freedom”. No males (YET) but not GFE-friendly because most talents like to tell stories about IRL male interactions, sometimes even outrightly about boyfriends.
Cons: Lack of management means talents often do retarded shit. Almost completely Twitch-exclusive, not ideal for those that prefer Youtube. Overall controversial humor, including some politics.

>>39114017
Learn Japanese

>>39124679
Which Genshin patch is this?

>>39124679
>learn Japanese
Why? Some of the girls speak great English.

>>39114017
the colourful one forever

>>39124826
>never got another kino unity collab after this
It still hurts.

>>39124033
As someone that has oshis in Niji, I can relate to this cynical view. At times I bother to post about my oshi and it's usually met with garbage like "cope" or "male accessory" despite being on the JP side.

>>39125045
It's bad enough each one of us has our own annoying faggots in our generals and threads, but then we gotta deal with the rest of /vt/, too. Gets old after a while.

>>39116153
Nta but why not just pick a talent from each company and give them a try for a few streams and then choose which company atmosphere you like best, since other people's opinion is going to be biased in the end

>>39125716
Or better yet, don't follow one corpo at all. Sample them all, like which ever ones you like, avoid tribalfaggotry.

>>39114017
VSP0

>>39114017
>hololive
Whores pretending to be streamers
>vshojo
Streamers pretending to be whores
>nijsanji
Normies pretending to be vtubers

>>39130280
>vshojo
>pretending to be whores
>pretending

>>39114017
As long as its not Vshojo Op, Don't go to those whores.

>>39130280
>vshojo
>pretending
LOL
LMAO
you wish, you cuck.

the only corpo worth watching is yuko

>>39114017
>I can't pick.
Don't pick

>>39130437
>>39132776
>>39132836
>implying a majority of hololive talents don’t out whore them
Lol
Lmao even

>>39133023
get this trash jewcorpo out of here.

>>39114017
It's really quite simple.
>Vshojo
You get the rope.
>Nijisanji
You get the rope.
>Hololive
You get to live.

>>39118945
tldr: Vshojo is worthless shit.

>>39118059
Arent they the same
Bunch of /here/ whores

>>39114017

pick what your heart telly you.
your dick will probably tell you different but it wont make you happy.

>>39120941
Vshojo is the only vtuber group out of these three without male members

>>39136684
Seethe

>>39136926
Mori needs to be shot too. Death to the brapper AND the hospital grifter.

Neither

>>39114017
then don't pick, refuse tribalism and be a better man

>>39140390
Refusing to eat shit is not tribalism. If two plates have lumps of sloppy shit and a third one has sponge cake decorated with anime idols, it's not tribalism to eat the cake.

>>39140551
yeah, if that's the case, but it isn't (unless you're a tribalnigger)

>>39114017
Vshojo is normalfag shit.
Hololive is slightly better.
Nijisanji is a mix of both.
Idol is a Jewish company that will try to get your money and all the gfe ones have boyfriends.
Kawaii is the same.
Tsunderia is ok.

>>39140872
Vshojo and Nijisanji are objectively shit. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. So, twitch simp or sunk cost?

>>39141000
i'm not going to bother explaining shit to a very clearly intellectually dishonest anon

>>39141162
I accept your surrender.

Watch VOMS instead for the "I Can't Believe It's Not Indie" experience

>>39141000
of course it's a holodrone

>>39114900
Yes. You can. You can also play Street Fighter, Tekken and Guilty Gear all at once.
>King of Dead.
Lol. Lmao.

>>39114017
Stop caring about brands and pay attention to individual talents. If someone gets your attention, you watch her. It's that simple.
Brand loyalism is the dumbest thing in the world.

>>39141193
cool, nice talk man

>>39115897
Lily does the voice better than Veibae.

>>39114017
pickme

>>39136926
Shit collabing with shit?
Not sure what to seeth about but you proved his point.