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39098852 No.39098852 [Reply] [Original]

>Dedicate extreme amount of time to a particular game
>Still manage to be complete garbage at it
How is this possible? Logic would dictate that you would eventually become better at it, acquire a better sense for the game, better gun skills, know the map hotsposts and avoid them, potentially get skilled enough to at least put on a good performance regardless of your gear.

But I don't see this with so many vtubers, hours, upon hours of Apex and yet they're horrible at it.
Same shit with Valorant, they play it a lot, still terrible at it.

>> No.39099020

A lot of people have that exact thought and forget that you have to pay attention to what is going wrong and correct it. Making the same mistakes for hundreds of matches does absolutely nothing. You will not improve like that.

>> No.39099070

>>39098852
But Chihiro got Masters!

>> No.39099167

>>39098852
I imagine trying go be good at a video game and also entertaining at the same time is pretty difficult. They could sit there in silence and focus on the game but then no one would give a shit.

>> No.39099323

>>39098852
Playing the game without proper coaching won't make you improve at the game.
They don't spend hundreds of hours practising their aiming alone, learning the maps, rewatching their gameplay footage to learn where they made the mistakes and how to avoid those mistakes

>> No.39099359

>>39099323
But youre bound to develop SOME game sense through sheer hours put into the game.

>> No.39099454

>>39099359
There's a limit on how much you can improve without proper guidance. That's why people can be stuck at bronze for years but once they pay a coach for lessons they suddenly start climbing fast

>> No.39099564

>>39099359
Theoretically, yes. Some people cannot learn like that, however. Competition matters too. If you're just fighting bottom feeders there's a chance you just never experience what a good player plays like, and you just learn from shitter tactics. And like others have said, you have to work on mechanics and watch gameplay.

>> No.39099602

>>39098852
Because those same vtubers just go monkey brain when playing. Getting better at Apex is easy, watch pros play and emulate that shit. You pick-up on a lot of stuff that way but it involves using your brain which people don't like to do. This goes for every game.

>> No.39099721

>>39098852
>Logic would dictate that you would eventually become better at it

Wrong. If you're just playing a game then you're probably never going to be better than whatever your baseline is.

To get better a game you have to train. most pros fuck around with aiming programs 20 minutes before they even open the FPS. Then with Apex you also have to learn and memorize all the manoeuvres.

t. played like shit until I watched a pro video on how to move and instantly faired better. Aim is still a hard cap though. You either can or you can't.

>> No.39099909

>>39099359
But that's just "SOME" amount of game sense. This varies with how long you've been playing that genre of game. If you're knew at fighting games, for example, you're gonna be completely lost playing Tekken 7 but, if you have experience with Street Fighter or even just Smash, you'd be able to pick things up quicker because you already know how to play neutral and the combos will come a bit more naturally. It's how Ollie is still pretty bad at Apex even with all those many hours and Selen clears any FPS she touches.

>> No.39099956

>>39098852
hours played doesn't mean you are better.

>> No.39102791

So this is why I suck ass at shooters.
Thanks /vt/, I need to watch peeps then to get better.

>> No.39102964

>>39098852
That's a tranny

>> No.39105106

Is there anyone as autistic as aqua who trained behind the scenes for a year to git gud and prove a point? She practiced under kovaks routinely and watched pro videos for strats and plays.

>> No.39105264

>>39105106
>Does this
>Refuses a coach for that big apex tourney with towa and suisei
>They get destroyed so badly that Aqua drops Apex entirely and streams sporadically now
The mind of the autist is a fascinating thing.

>> No.39109928

>>39099359
The FTX guy played a ton of LoL and sucked

>> No.39111217

Reminder Ollie is somehow hard stuck bronze of all things and jumps when someone shoots like it's a jump scare in a fnaf game.

>> No.39111897

It’s because they aren’t trying to improve right. Most people are banging their heads against a brick wall expecting to improve and climb ranks. Is there the rare individuals who grind enough and eventually break the wall down? Yes. But the vast majority need to actually sit down and study the game like University and sit in the gun range for hours/days learning everything about the game before they will see meaningful gains, but that isn’t good content or fun so they won’t climb.

>> No.39112170

>>39099454
Yeah, I remember when my friend got me to play LoL he has been bronze or silver since season 3 and he convinced me to play with him. I was gold at the end of my first season and he freaked out and said that I was lucky and that he was in ELO hell. Dude just never learned how to play the game at a basic level even after playing for tens of thousands of games. I knew more about it after watching a video series on laning and shit for a few hours.

>> No.39112271

Dead game, holos like matsuri and roboco barely even stream it anymore (EN trash is another story I guess)

>> No.39112434

>>39098852
Rumors say that Japs use it to hook up

>> No.39112495

>>39098852
You do get better, but in different ways.
I got masterful game sense in tf2 but I'm still dogshit at aiming.

>> No.39119366

>>39098852
Looking forward to vsaikyo 5, but I doubt it'll as popular as the 4th or 3rd tournament

>> No.39123004

>>39098852
a lot of people start doing things a certain way and refuse to change those habits, even if those habits make their experience worse

>> No.39127116

>>39098852
fps games are inherently garbage

>> No.39129240

>>39098852
>How is this possible?
low standards

>> No.39129501

>>39099323
>>39099454
>Playing the game without proper coaching won't make you improve at the game.
>There's a limit on how much you can improve without proper guidance.
This can be a fucking joke, are you guys serious? I refuse to believe that I have a special talent for video games because I never play fps before but when I play apex I got for bad to good enough in not time (my max tier was platinum) and same with mobas, you only need to know what the other characters can do and predict they move like a retrogame(Megaman, Contra, Pacman, etc).
>Also
I was soloplayer in Apex

>> No.39132526

>>39098852
>Logic would dictate that you would eventually become better at it
Yes you would. Until you stop playing for a few months and your reflexes, decision making and knowledge all get worse and you have to relearn them again

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