/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>we hate HoloEN but we can't stop talking about it oh please don't forget to watch Phase Connect and IdolEN
You faggots are worse than an embattled ex-girlfriend who sleeps around.

>>39039122
>we hate HoloEN but we can't stop talking about it oh please don't forget to watch Phase Connect and IdolEN

There's at least 3 assumptions there, none of which were stated in the OP. Go be ESL somewhere else.

I guess in the end, it truly was Hollow Life

>>39040411
Up until this point, it was fairly fulfilling. Then they all got lazy and stopped caring except for Fauna.

>>39041056
Moom

i'm done watching hololive when tempiss and seaniggers showed up

That was just after the day Russia invaded Ukraine. That explains it why.

>>39038666
>This was before Ame asked Teamates to improve themselves.
What did the footlicker mean by this?

My brother in Christ, you're talking about this as if it was twenty years ago and not this very year of our Lord 2022

>This was before Ame asked Teamates to improve themselves.

That one stream is still living rent-free in some schizo's minds? JFC!

>>39041779
9 months ago. Since then it's been pretty shitty.
>>39041321
Mumei is inoffensive but she's not great.

>>39042168
Fuck up sapling

>>39041056
IRyS is so motivated now that God had to give her the coof in order to stop her from streaming

>>39041468
OK calm down piss enjoyer

2022 has been pretty bad for EN. They peaked in February and let's face it it's been nothing but a downward slope since then. I keep waiting for things to improve so we can relive the glory days but it keeps getting worse.

>>39042523
shut the fuck up brown monkey, kys

>>39042804
2023 will see two graduations from EN
One graduation from JP
I have spoken, be at peace.

>>39042918
I thought SEA was one of the biggest anti Homobases. Look at all of ID. The ones who Homocollabed have plummeted. It's mostly western wokefags pushing them.

>>39042918
white as a board brownie... you're leaking yourself out

>>39042918
hit a nerve?

>>39038666
>Orcschizo used this opportunity to bully Kiara
>streamed over Kizuna Ai's graudation
>teaniggers didn't believe that Gura had covid, Ame got covid later sometime during the Myth off collabs. Karma is a bitch.
>magical

People in here acting as if they watched all 11 ENs at once while they were streaming every day, fuck that noise

>>39045990
They never streamed every day, hell we can't even get every week or every month.

>>39045540
>still caring about Kizuna 'Buy My NFTs' Ai

Faggots who cried about ame improve yourself line to them are telling gura to improve herself so she can get off her ass and stream lol the irony.

>>39046853
Ame's improve yourself meant they should watch fewer streams
Gura should improve herself by streaming more.
Turns out fans of Vtubers want to watch those Vtubers stream, who the fuck knew?

>>39038666
>was in thread watching this
>moom poster announcing Russian invasion
>check /pol/
>ITSACTUALLYHAPPENING.jpg
>mfw

>>39038666
Do you watch sports? Because I’m getting big Jon Bois vibes from this. Chills down my spine.

>>39041779
It’s vtubing, nine months is a long time. Nine months ago, I still gave a shit about HoloEN.

>>39042979
Someone’s going to get mad at you for saying the obvious even though we all know Ina and Laplus are gone, and Ame is unlikely to tolerate another year of this when she’s obviously indifferent. The only wild card is that there’s a small chance Gura goes too.

Literally a month after we got Zeta and Myth in 3D. The idea that a certain point was the end of special moments is forced revisionist history.

>>39045990
If people actually watched all 11 EN members, we would only now be starting to bitch. People were bitching about no streams over a year ago precisely because vtubers aren’t fungible. If Kronii doesn’t stream and stops releasing schedules, you don’t just switch over to Bae or Kiara.

>>39047874
Fucking this. But tourists don't understand oshis.

>>39047664
Contracts are due, Summer has altered.

>>39048034
*don't understand pretending that a VTuber is your love interest and going schizo over her if she does something you don't like

>>39048387
Go back

>>39047528
That's all it took for you to ditch them? Fickle.

>>39048415
Go back to when your family and friends loved you

>>39048578
Seriously, how did you find this place? Reddit? Discord? Some SEA dramanigger's video on "the hateful incels of 4chan"?

>>39049000
I literally said nothing controversial in one simple sentence, I actually enjoy watching Hololive like a normal episodic TV comedy and not like a livestream of the girl that you stalk next door

>>39049000
they've always been here faggot, you're just too blind to see it

>>39049671
Oh yeah just like Homobeggars and fleshtuber fans right? Fuck off.

>>39049453
Filthy casual.

>>39038666
I leaped off before this lmao, I'm amazed some of you guys stuck this long to them

>>39038666
Why won't you people realize that tempus is the main reason why the so called "magic" is gone? Of course there's other factors before they showed up that could cause for the blame. But you have to admit that if it wasn't for tempus, HoloEN would be somewhat better than it is right now.

>>39052813
Correctomundo

>>39052813
When was the last time Tempus and EN even collabed? Sounds like scapegoating, girls should just get to solo streaming once they recover.

>>39038666
That moment was overrated. Didn't watch. Just face that they've always been employees first. They're not friends. They're not family. This is a job and they want your money. There is nothing fucking magical about it. You are lonely and vulnerable and desperate to believe a digital lie

>>39049875
it's okay if you don't believe me, hide in your little safe space fucking snowflake

>>39045540
>outing yourself as kfpiss
Here's you (You)

>>39052813
>Why won't you people realize that tempus is the main reason why the so called "magic" is gone?
cuz you don't have concrete proof and obviously you just don't like them. Pretty easy to tell actually.
> But you have to admit that if it wasn't for tempus, HoloEN would be somewhat better than it is right now
funny joke, tell me another one

I mean yeah. If you had to ask me who gets along best in Hololive EN, I'd say those 5 would be the ones that do.

Ame said that Ina contacted her about meeting up for some one on one time alone, off stream so it's clear they have a decent friendship.

Fauna, Mumei, and Kronii have met up a few times off stream as well. They seem like genuine friends.

At the end of the day, people need to remember that they are literally just co-workers. It doesn't matter that "these 5 people are the same gen!" if their personalities clash, they clash. They don't owe it to the viewers to force interact with each other if they don't want to outside of Cover mandated activities.

- From how Kiara was talking about Mori recently, it's clear Mori has an in your face, I'm superior attitude that would be a put off to others.
- Kiara likewise has a similar personality of "I need to be the center of attention!"
- Ina herself has said she's difficult to get along with because she always wants things done on her schedule.
- Ame is a very strand-offish person who likes her personal time and space.

>>39052813
Tempus changed the atmosphere, now everyone gets to wait for the inevitable fag collab.

>>39053914
the reddit newfag in this post is off the scales

>>39052813
we got seaniggers and homobeggars daily on chat, its really sad state of hololive now

>>39047664

Ina and La+ I can say with almost certainty are gone.

Ame, I don't really see her going though. I'm not sure what this "tolerate this" is you speak of, Cover clearly isn't holding the EN girls to any standard, period. They're essentially free to do what they want with no downside.

Gura isn't a wildcard at all either, she's not going anywhere. The pathetic people that keep supporting her after half a year of ~10 hours a month of streaming have proven to her she can do absolutely nothing and she'll still collect a massive paycheck. She's not so stupid as to give that up. She IS the EN Ayame, except more popular

>>39054130
>didn't like it when i say the truth
>no argument
>assumes i browse reddit
concession accepted

>>39052813
It definitely brought in a bunch more undesirables, mainly normalfags and homobeggars. However Mori was always a drunk wigger, Ame, Ina, and Gura would have all still gotten lazy, and Kronii still would have been mediocre with a great model.

>>39054252
>we got seaniggers and homobeggars daily on chat
don't see any of them

April fool stream? Pico Park stream? You guys complain about the ones not streaming more than actually talking about the streams that are actually happening.

>>39038666
Tempiss really did ruin it all...

you gonna drown in your sadness like the pathetic little bitches you are or are you gonna do something about it?

>>39054833
Idk about you, but I’ve somehow managed to simultaneously bitch about it on this board, AND watch other people at the same time. Crazy how those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

>>39038666
fuck you, you're right

>>39054683
Neither of those were really special imo. Pico Park especially felt really forced.

>>39038666
True, Satan. Kronii molesting Ina was peak HoloEN.

>>39058653
>You now realize Kronii exchanged fluids with Ina and in doing so was infected with Ina's laziness, disdain for her fans, and general blase attitude towards Hololive
Korean Canadians were a mistake...

>>39054833
Like what?

>>39055073
I shit on HoloEN all the time while watching my small corpos. It’s so much more fun doing it. Should I? Probably not. Do I hate anyone in HoloEN? Not really…not even Gura. I do hate the retards here who keep acting like HoloEN’s hot shit though.

>>39061413
Stop watching HoloEN and move to something else. Nothing you say the girls or management will care about. Normalfags believe rightly that fans have no voice and no rights except one—the right to stop giving money and stop watching and take your time and money somewhere else. There’s a reason all the small corpos are inclining. It’s because HoloEN is not the only option. And yes, I’m implicitly ignoring NijiEN and vshojo, they don’t count as options for most of this board. I mean real options.

>>39052813
Tempus accelerated the decline but they were far from the only factor

>>39040411
too sad too laugh

>>39042251
Not a sapling seanigger kun. Fauna isnt great either, she's just not as shit as the rest of EN is now. It's basically Irys, Fauna,Kiara and Mumei doing okay while the rest suck/dont stream or both

>>39042979
saved

>>39052813
>blame the new guys for their laziness and lack of motivation to stream
lemao

>>39039396
and all of them are correct

>>39038666
>This was it.
That wasn't it

>>39038666
ehhhhh

>>39038666
Ina was actually the true source of unity after all. After she went on her break, and then other break EN slowly fell apart (starting at the first break)

>Gura stopped caring
>Ame stopped caring
>Sana stopped caring so much she graduated
>Kiara got depressed
>Kronii got depressed
>Mori didn't even notice because she never cared
>Irys didn't even notice because she was never part of unity to begin with
>Mumei didn't even notice because autism
>Bae tried to pick up the slack (and failed because zoomer)
>Fauna tried to pick up the slack (and succeeded marginally)

>>39082216
Ina was checked out long before even this. I'd say once she stopped doing her drawing streams. She couldn't even keep those up for a year. Ina always treated Hololive as a part time job, she was never behind the scenes supporting people or organizing events.

>>39076713
When was it then?

>>39047664
QRD why everyone is so sure on Laplus? I never kept up with holox but I see everyone sure she's gone

>>39086261
She doesn't fucking stream. She does a lot of RM shit and has tried to funnel Hololive viewers to her RM pretty blatantly, like Mori.

>>39086405
I see, unlike Mori she doesn't have a universal contract keeping her locked in so I guess that checks. Thanks anon. Weird since she seemed most popular in her gen

>>39038666
Nah, the NOT off-collab and the off-collab with Bae was special too. I'm guessing op is a teammate.

>>39047449
Please give me a 2 hour Bois video about post-coco holo

>>39052813
Exactly this
Seeing Vesper threads make me sick

>>39088555
>He's the only good one!
>Based Grandpa!
>ONE OF US
The Vesperfags are truly on an island, not only are they homobeggars, they shit on other homos.

>>39038666
ogey

>>39088555
People like something you don't? Seethe.

>>39092886
Hololive is for people who like CGDCT no need for Homofags to come insert themselves into it.

>>39087954
It's teamate newfag

>>39087463
If you don't stream, people won't like you.

>>39094657
>Hololive is for people who like CGDCT
[citation needed] that is has to be girls.

Frankly I wish this collab had never happened. It's worst offense is that it made the Myth offcollab feel less special. Also, it got dropped out of nowhere and MY OSHI WASN'T THERE.

>>39100854
Go away faggot.

Move on please

>>39101649
The Myth offcollab didn't feel special because only Ame, Kiara, and Gura were really into it. Ina was just the pouty bitch who didn't want to do anything and snapped at Kiara for making her dance and set things up, and Mori was just her usual fat drunk self.

>>39103993
I was here first tourist.

>>39044152
No, SEA is the biggest supporter of Hololive but Chinks pretend flaseflagging as SEA are the most antis faggots

>>39108964
>SEA is the biggest supporter of Hololive
LMAO. Biggest percentage of mentally ill faggots maybe.

I hate Kronii

>>39117995
Is that all you have to contribute to this thread? I don't care who you love or hate at least fucking elaborate on your opinions

>>39118821
Kronii is lazy and uninspired. She is carried entirely by her model and the Hololive brand name. She lied to her members and basically should not have a slot. She is completely ignorant of her position, mocking people without female friends while selling boob mousepads and dakimakuras.

>>39119131
There we go, thank you. Don't be as lazy and uninspired as her if for whatever reason you decided to post here.

>>39119131
She mocked people who were saying things like "have fun with your boyfriend" because she laughed at something during a collab with males present. I have her daki and don't feel targeted at all by that comment even if I barely have friends. It's true that she is uninspired and not a hard-worker, but it's not like everyone else in HoloEN is doing inspiring stuff. Everyone pretty much just goes through the motions and plays FOTM games. She's a low energy and slow person and that's fine; she still delivers good content when she streams

>>39121336
>mocked people
that's her fanbase

>>39125400

Cucks, Fixed it for you

Perfect Examples ------> >>39121336 >>39118821

>>39125400
Is it? There's thousands on Reddit still fawning over her paying her bills and then some. But then again, that goes for every Hololive member.

>>39126831
As the >>39118821 and I was pissed to see a thread being bumped with three words adding nothing substantial to the conversation after two and a half hours of being idle. Idgaf about Kronii, could have been anything else posted.

>>39127021

>Oh no! I've been Called what I am, let me sound more Pseudo-Intellectual to compensate for my micropenis

>>39110416
yes like unicorns and homobeggars alike

>>39127207
In >>39119302 I immediately affirmed that am I no cuck for Kronii, and that I am in fact quite averse towards her. I am not sure what leads you to believe I spend my valued time thinking about that badly designed model with my micropenis in hand.

>>39038666
Whatever happened during the Myth off collab, sealed their separation. Who hosted that? And allowing alternatives with the release of Council.

But I really blame Hololive Corp. The girls have come to the full realization that they won't be receiving the support expected (excluding Mori). At least nowhere near as much that is given to JP. I fully understand Ina's frustrations, in having to set up the 3D studio themselves. I find it ridiculous that Hololive did not send any tech personnel to that site. That alone shows how much effort they will extend for EN. And the girls have been openly showing their frustrations. Blaming it on Covid restrictions was a lie.

>>39038666
The magic will come back

>>39129478
with tempiss offcollab

>>39129531
Why do you like to suck homo piss so much?

>>39094657
Too bad. Suck it up. Holostars is now part of holopro so kiss YAGOO's ass.

>>39129617
to make you seethe

>>39088555
There's a hide thread button little snowflake. Maybe use that so you wouldn't cry about it.

>>39129733
>Didn't deny it
Gotcha. Let me know if you want the urine of men in your mouth faggot.

>>39129531
En3 will arrive after Holofest. I'm almost certain. But I don't think that's gonna help too much if the structural problems or Holo En persists.

>>39129758
tempiss : mocking homo
are you retarded or women?

Magni is absolutely done once his contract is over. Vesper is more than likely quitting next year as well.

>>39129926
Finally some good news!

>>39038666
holoen was obviously fake from day 1

>>39052813
>HoloEN would be somewhat better than it is right now
ogey

>>39129859
You seem to like the taste of boypiss in your mouth that you don't seem to realize it ruined your sense of constructing a sentence apparently.

>>39129926
Surely you have a reliable source to confirm that right anon? A clip perhaps? Timestamp? /vt/ would never lie to me.

>>39128104
>Whatever happened during the Myth off collab, sealed their separation. Who hosted that?
If you mean the big NA offcollab arc during summer, no one really "hosted" that. The initial, original plan was just that Kiara was coming over to Ame for her help on 3D (because Cover is so fucking useless), then the other girls got wind of that and it snowballed into Ina, Gura etc. deciding to take the occasion to invite themselves in and all have a big meetup together. And Mori also came home to the States that time, and wanted to treat the girls, her great idea was to rent out an AirBnB, which led to THAT party...

>>39128104
>The girls have come to the full realization that they won't be receiving the support expected
The opposite is true. The girls have realized that no matter what they do, literally thousands of fans will still support them with supas, memberships, and merch. They can all get away with Ayame tier effort. Only a few, like Kiara, Fauna, Irys, actually give a shit about being in Hololive and care about support from the staff for 3D and such.

>>39121336
If it was just that one comment fine. For full disclosure I bought the mousepad and the pillow. But she's also said and done a bunch of things which reveal she really isn't aware of the type of people who watch and enjoy Hololive. This is also why she doesn't put any effort into being any kind of character. She was really surprised that people without female friends would watch her, indeed that those people exist. Just like she's always surprised that fans would miss her. The unarchived member stream was particularly eye opening. She read the comments, couldn't believe that people would be parasocial, read a bit from a book about parasocialism and then acted like the whole industry isn't based around predatory tactics towards willing men as long as kayfabe is kept up. Kronii I don't have any female friends. If I did I would never buy such embarrassing merch.

>>39133501
All of Hololive is fake, but the problem comes when they stop faking or in Kronii and Mori's case, never started at all.