/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

FUCKING GRIM

* FINAL TALLY OF YESTERDAY *
>30,227: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>24,446: Suisei (Hololive)
>21,533: Hal (Neo Porte)
>18,841: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,742: Leos (Nijisanji)
>18,570: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,341: Nene (Hololive)
>15,869: Tamaki (Noripro)
>15,063: Noel (Hololive)
>14,824: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,600: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,135: Fulgur (Nijisanji)
>12,419: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,324: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,627: Polka (Hololive)
>11,597: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,386: Luna (Hololive)
>10,839: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,688: Salome (Nijisanji)
>10,610: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,375: Salome (Nijisanji)

>>39038343
ikr, I can't believe Drake lost to M*ri

>>39038317
Recent clip numbers
>>39004371
>>39004402
>>39004477
>>39004501
>>39004541

>>39038397
Drake's album cover is fucking ass desu

holo gold contenders

>17 Pekora new outfit
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>39038343
Fucking the grim reaper Mori Calliope? No thanks.

Gura
4 Streams
16,058 Median.
13 Hours 22 Minutes

Mori
13 Streams
4,581 median
46 Hours 49 Minutes

Ame
1 Stream
3,809 CCV
2 Hours 3 Minutes

Kiara
8 Streams
4,080 Median
36 Hours 59 Minutes

IRyS
8 Streams
7,370 Median
29 Hours 03 Minutes

Kronii
6 Streams
5,176 Median
22 Hours 10 minutes

Mumei
12 Streams
6,605 Median
36 Hours 54 Minutes

Fauna
14 Streams
8,737 Median
40 Hours 17 minutes

Bae
11 Streams
5,808 Median
41 Hours 48 Minutes

Well, from observation I can at least say this is the most traction I've seen out of the EN fanbase over worries about the branch and getting antsy for EN3. I took a look at the subreddit earlier in the day and saw 3 threads in succession at the top about the breaks, obviously the endless discussion here over the state of things, whispers here and there on youtube/twitter. It's insane how all cover needed to do was just... debut 5 girls. Insane how difficult that is apparently

Yebros...

>>39038571
Fauna>irys
The melon>irys
Enna>irys

My eel wife is so cute and retarded.

https://youtu.be/qfhXe364ORY
>only 2k
Why?

>>39038397
Who the fuck is drake?

Song is still not available in the US. Feelsbad...

>>39038678
lesser dragon

>>39038395
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 -Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Miko, Mio, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
108x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
54x: Pekora
23x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>39038639
It's just an excuse to sing.

>>39038639
stop being blind

Ok I was reading that reddit post about longest gen gap. Let's say Tempus is indeed EN3 then doesn't that mean that the homo batch won't debut until 2024 if they're going to follow 1 gen per year pattern (assuming they debut girls in 2023).

Do homobeggars realize that they will only have 4 homos to watch for most of 2023 and half of 2024?

>>39038611
Only 12 hours before the melon karaoke

You know what funny about Mori is that while CCV wise she not doing so hot lately but in terms of making money for Cover and UMG she likely comparable to the entirety of Luxiem

>>39038627
Is there another eel chuuba I'm not aware of? Because the one I'm thinking of just finished.

>>39038695
It won't be for another 6 months or so.
https://files.catbox.moe/c8rorj.webm

>>39038695
Not gonna be for 6 months if her other stuff is anything to go by.

>>39038764
proof?

>>39038782
Members.

>>39038718
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
228x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
34x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
14x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa, Korone
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

kneel to Mori

Why would i watch a fag while i can watch Kaela or even better, Bucciarati vs Prosciutto and Pesci, the best fight of the season?

>>39038896
>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
226x: Hololive
104x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
41x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

What did we learn last thread, anon?

>>39038975
DRAKE BTFO

>>39038864
Nice. I should member soon but I've been bad with gifts lately for family so funds are a little scarce.

reminder that Ame is remodeling her house because Gura will be living with her, easiest way to use her studio

my cute wife

>>39038747
They don't think lol, or at most they believe that starsEN2 will come soon, making it one gen per half-year with EN3 coming next summer.

>>39038975
>>39038988

>>39038962
I don't know anon, personally White Album is peak part 5 to me

Huh, Kiara doing a twitter space.

>>39038988
We've hit levels of despair that we never thought were even possible

>>39038975
Reddit loves catching up on every little stream imaginable.

>>39039004
I caught a gift, and from what i've seen, she'll be my second membership.

>>39038678
It's a rapper that was big like 5-6 years ago.

>>39038975
>>39038988
At least things can't get grimmer than this

Is Mori having a 2nd redemption arc?

>>39039181
Next week for sure, EN3 will be here!

INDONESIAN DOMINATION

>>39038747
They're unityfags that don't care so long as they can feign support to the token retarded kid of holo(((Pro)))

>>39038573
Tempus just debuted, watch them.

(You) live in a timeline where Hololive anime girls can compete on the music charts with Drake and Snoop Dogg

>>39039237
No. She's not making any content that appeals to the general Hololive audience, hence why she only took like 200 people from Fauna's 15th Skyrim stream with an unarchived karaoke of a bunch of niche JP songs. She's just doubling down really hard on her core fanbase that will buy anything she does. Great for them but most people simply aren't going to care.

>>39038988
>grim
even my favorite anime this year got its production shafted and interrupted for a while and the releases are a mess now.

>>39039398
Only one of them can

>>39039456
What is this elf rape anime called?

>>39039527
isekai oji-san

>>39039084
Her low energy twitter spaces are much more enjoyable for me personally.

>>39038573
Good luck with that. Management from what we can gather is incompetent drunk control freaks. They probably still riding the success of Myth until Myth actually dies off.

>>39039084
Numbers?

>>39039527
isekai ojisan

>>39039616
Sub 1k

uhhhhh

Heres a NijiEN 3D model question which members do you all see making use of it and which members will do next to nothing with

>>39039200
One of Myth could be getting the Yugo treatment right now and we would never know it

>>39038573
Instead they debuted 4 faggots that divided fanbase and you can see that division in discussions about EN3.

>>39039757
I can only see Pomu doing anything creative with it

>>39039398
Based Mori btfoing of niggers yet again

>>39039665
Why do I feel like the twist is this is an actually a guy that got isekaied? Tell me I'm wrong.

>>39039388
>just debuted
tempus was 5 months ago anon

>>39039757
I want to see a 3d Finana lewd ASMR but it'll never happen

>>39039905
You are wrong

>>39039908
No that can't be fucking right. 5 fucking months? That's almost half a year

>>39039757
What are they even gonna use it for? I can see VR Chat streams but that's it.
On that front, probably Vox and Mysta for numbers

>>39038731
>>39038732
Mumei wants to bust her throat and be out of commission too

>>39038536
OUTTA THE WAY GAYBOY

>>39039793
>Have a budget to produce one English gen a year
>Only have two gens so far
>Chooses to spend it on StarsEN

>>39038678
The one from Drake & Josh.

>>39039268
Kiara guerilla space beating half of NijiEN

>>39039414
There’s more numbers than just CCV you know

>>39038860

>>39039991
She goes on break next week, no?

>>39039757
I haven't seen any indication that they're even getting home 3D, so it's possible they won't even have the option to do anything with them outside of the Japanese studio. The mocap shit the ENs holos bought is pretty expensive and likely outside the budget of most Nijis that aren't Luxiem. Sure some of them make good money like Pomu but it's not fuck you money they can just splash out for 20k items on a whim.

>>39039725
>>39040048
btfo

>>39039905
you're wrong

>>39039991
She wants an excuse to not talk to her family while on break

>>39040108
Isn’t the tracking for Niji home 3D pretty bad?

>>39039991
Rrat: All girls are out, because EN management wants to force them to have HoloPro Christmas collab.

>>39039905
No the guy who got isekaied is an ugly oji san
The joke is that the hot tsundere elf falls in love with the oji san

>>39040048
>beating half of NijiEN
Not much of a challenge really

>>39040208
substantial if verifiable

>>39040060
Yeah, don't think she has set a date yet, but she is planning a break.

>Works hard
>Highly Successful
>Loved acrossed the globe
>Still motivated to achieve more
>Streams
And yet the hate her because she's not pretending to be their girlfriend

>>39040043
Drake? Where's the HoloEN3?

Thread is slow enough, here is an update on the "usual tables".
For now, only the kaigai one, on JP primetime the rest will be posted

> MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, DECEMBER 2022, 1st to 15th, KAIGAI ONLY
(Cutting point for the middle of the month is 3 or more streams in the period)

Here are some comments on the median, with the average being generally a minute change in position due to either retention or special events

1) Gura remains comfortable at the top, but with one of the smallest number of streams of the major corpos
2) Kobo, boosted by her bday is #2 and the only other with a 10k+ median
3) A buffed Mysta snags #3, followed by Fauna and Hex for the top 5
4) Three of the XSOLEIL are at the top 10, along with IRyS, Vox and Mumei
5) Because of the above mentioned point, the Kiara line didn't hold
6) Kronii is the lowest ranked Council, with a median approaching 5k. That still outranks Mori and Kiara
7) Enna is the highest ranked "old guard" NijiEN girl. Despie of that, other than Luxiem and the newly debuted, no other NijiEN outranked any HoloEN girl
8) A recently returned Vesper is the highest ranked Tempus, with a 4k median in four streams. Magni median dropped to barely over 2k
9) Aster is the only NIjiEN to have a sub 1k median. Iofi is the only Holo girl

and the punchline
10) Pippa currently has a 1.8k median, outranking Reimu, Finana, Aia and Scarle from NijiEN, among others

As mentioned above, the full tables with the usual top 50, 1kplus and total chart will come on JP primetime.
Also notice that kawaii, WACTOR ES were added to the kaigai list this type.

>>39040275
Who you talking about?

>>39040275
I love Suisei though.

>>39040210
>joke
it's OTP, fuck that blue haired girl

>>39040275
But enough about Bae

>>39040275
Who specifically are you talking about?

>>39040207
Home 3D in general is kind of ass, I think the Niji version is more poseable (as in they can lie down and stuff) but as a consequence it's more jank too.

>cute
>doesn't stream
And yet I still love her!

>>39040307
>melon about to pass the hope slut

>>39040307
Fauna absolutely btfo

https://twitter.com/hololivepro_en
>retweeted Kiara's twitter space
Hahaha the absolute state of EN

>>39040378
I honestly feel like most of the Holo home 3d looks great these days.

>>39038975
Mori>Drake

>>39040275
I don't hate Bae but i do wish she'd do more gf RP

>>39038536
More for me then

>>39040448
Finally they're promoting some quality fucking content.

>>39040275
Tough luck. Maybe she should pander since that's her job.

>>39038678
Were you in a cave the last 10 years?

>>39040323
gladly

*wake up*
time to shit on sidebranches sharts again

>>39040555
Who?

>>39040448
>Niji EN doesn't even let their livers do spaces anymore because of some of the talents going off the reservation unsupervised
>Holo EN officially promoting them because they've completely run out of content

>>39040448
>Promoting Kiara blowing snot all over the place instead of blue faggot karaoke
Based. Did they get a new intern?

>>39040597
The one from Drake & Josh.

>>39040629
Definitely

>>39040060
>Ruin throat so you don’t have to talk to family
Devilish

>>39039456
>>39039665
Suitan my beloved

>>39040448
I'm surprised I don't see any homo retweet since their collab.

>>39040448
Look guys! Content! We definitely didn't screw the pooch hard! This is still a totally alive not-dead branch!

>>39040629
I actually think Ame just poisoned the well for him, promoting a karaoke for blueman is probably just going to attract shit stirrers.

>>39040448
>ISREAL
kek.

https://twitter.com/staff_aoi/status/1603338887723556865?t=1zRBQJGEzeNU-5z0Ny9urg&s=19
Was fujiaoi always close with holomem? I've seen her replying to some of them

Has he been a snail for the entire thing? And also changing the lyrics of all the songs to snail-related things?

>>39040735
This. I meant, how exactly she arrived to the conclusion that, "yeah, this is a perfect idea *HIC*"
I think there is only one reason for her to do it.

>>39040307
Pippa, I kneel!

>>39040597
Drake is some game but no vtuber ever dared to play it as far as I know

>>39040821
Clout?

>blue boy with unarchived karaoke can't even beat Kaela Mario Kart
Omega should be fired. Imagine releasing this flop instead of EN3

>>39040805
yes

>>39040821
She wasn't thinking that hard about it. She thought it would be playful and funny, like a subversion of expectations.

>>39040805
Don't care about your homo post, just wanted to post snail.

>>39040735
This is what happened with most of the homos and it's why that shit will never work long term.
The people who get mad at stuff like Ame's karaoke stunt are way more dedicated won't let that shit go. It's been months and that shit hasn't gone away. Same with Vesper and Kronii

>>39040892
I've had this debate elsewhere and the conclusion we came to is that she's a catalog reader. Anyone here longer than a week knows she's /here/ sometimes and the only thing that makese sense for all her responses to the starsEN situation is that she was actually taking shitposts seriously and fired on the whole crowd in retaliation.

>>39040925
You did it wrong. Here, like this:
> Leader and most-subscribed member of the official HoloEN3 gen doing ultra-buff unarchived karaoke content with a comedy gimmick can't beat one autistic Indonesian penguin woman playing an old debuff game from years ago
> What went wrong?

>>39040307
Pippa's biggest debuff is karaoke. Yeah she's bad but so are Ame and Fauna and Rosemi and they get higher than their average viewership with karaokes still. Pippa takes a huge hit, failing to even hit 1k.

>>39040307
>10) Pippa currently has a 1.8k median, outranking Reimu, Finana, Aia and Scarle from NijiEN, among others

>>39040307
Did you ever post the full tables for November? I never saw them but not sure if I just missed them

>>39040975
for me it's the bat

As expected the stock is taking a dive post-report, albeit not as worse as I thought it would be. The question now though is whether it can rebound back or will it keep tumbling down the cliff.

>>39040307
THE PIPPA INCLINE

>>39040307
GO PIPPA GO

>>39041098
They should just show guns, drink moonshine and scream because that's funny PIPIPIPIPIPI
She is totally /here/ btw, just like me and (you)! Smart rabbit.

>>39041144
It has to incline eventually, doubt it'll get down to 4,000 yens

>>39041144
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NIJIBROS

>>39041144
Their growth was below investors' expectations so yeah this was to be expected. Still overvalued as hell.

>>39041144
The report is that bad huh?

>>39040307
I would never and will never actually watch a Pippa stream, but I'll definitely watch her slowly climb the ranks and eclipse a bunch of NijiENs. That sounds entertaining.

>>39041144
BUY THE DIP

>>39041229
Is that based on anything or ae you just clinging onto hope and wishful thinking?

A question do you all think VSPO and Neo Porte will ever do 3D debuts

Bae overslept and had to delay for 30 minutes again.

>>39041136
Shinobu is my favorite, but the Hachikuji is a close second.

>>39041365
I'm coping

>>39040307
Pippa beat the two runts of Tempus, most of ILUNA, and all of ID2
Safe to say that Tempus and ILUNA were both massive failures

>>39041423
Maybe if you throw enough money at them they might. Low quality perhaps or maybe a KS like Kawaii did.

>>39040307
Where da jew chuubas at

>>39041481
Proposal that we now call it the Pippa line, and every talent who falls beneath it has to be graduated without exception

>>39041423
I believe vspo had that in plans, but it's like year since they announced it.

>>39041567
Zaion is right there

>>39041591
Sorry Takodachis, nothing personell.

>>39038988
that homostars and their beggars are the worst shit that ever happened to hololiveEN. Theyre cynic trannies who cant or dont want to realize that tempus is the exact reasaon holoEN is in the shitter now

>>39041309
It's not bad, on the contrary it's good even since they made more money than the previous quarter. It's just after a staggering 148% increase from 2022Q4 to 2023Q1 which is why it got propelled to 10k in the first place a mere 101.8% increase from Q1 to Q2 implies stagnation, and that's not what the investors wanted.

>>39041015
This just proves that EN management is fucking retarded and don't even know their own audience.
Good job turning dedicated fans into antis. They thought they did it right because Tempus had the full support of the majority of /vt/, then the collab spam happened.

>>39041309
It doesn't matter how much profit you make, if you don't meet investor expectations your stock will tank.

Please stop saying that Ina will graduate.

>>39041656
HoloEN is in the shitter now, because the girls won't stream enough.

>>39041567
They're all like 300-400 average.

>>39041144
It won't rebound. The investors expected exponential growth.

>>39041786
No, Ina will graduate

>>39041478
It's always been closely between hachikuji, shinobu and kanbaru for me. Oh!great's manga did wonders as well.

>>39041716
>dedicated fans into antis
what a shit fanbase

So why doesn't the stock start dropping before a lockup period expires? Are investors all idiots who don't realize that of course the executives and high-level employees are going to dump the stock at high valuations as soon as they can? Even if you believed in Anycolor's prospects going forward, who wouldn't want to diversify

>>39041144

>>39041144
Riku should have cashed out.

>>39041616
jej

>>39041861
It will rebound when it hits the point it's actually valued correctly, that's how stocks work. It won't just decline indefinitely.

>>39041688
Is there a simpler explanation for my brain?
What exactly the investors want then, and outside those already known shareholders like b2 feels like no one is buying into the stock, no general investors in the stock market and no fans of the brand.

>>39040735
Ame was a retard for the stunt she pulled. Blue homo was getting bugged about it for weeks and right after that he was getting annoyed by Kobo's fanbase.

>>39041786
Look, I really like Ina, but I see a lot of the same warning signs I did with Yugo
Complete silence from the person in question. Genmates going menhera and taking breaks out of nowhere. Literally the same shit.
If I were a takodachi I would be archiving everything right now before the announcement comes.

>>39041962
>Are investors all idiots
not all but a lot of them are in my experience

>>39042080
>If I were a takodachi I would be archiving everything right now before the announcement comes.
Well if she graduates proper then her channel won't be deleted right?

>>39038988
gura is already wishing merry christmas and a happy new year

>>39042035
If Company A says they're going to increase profits by 100% and they only increase profits by 70%, investors will lose faith in the company.

>unnatural numbers
>unnatural incline
For what?

>>39041786
Sorry anon. At the end of the day Ina is a professional illustrator who is fairly popular, and if Hololive interferes with her work then it's obvious what she'll choose. I think she joined Hololive initially because she wants to make friends and not due to financial reason, so the current state of HoloEN might just discourage her even further.
Your best case scenario is she remains semi-active (like Shion) who only shows up a few times per year.

>>39041962
It did, it was already going down before the mass dump on December

>>39041688
These expectations sound cancerous, they're only going to push the company to keep ramping up cost cutting and profit chasing at the expense of everything else.

>>39042052
Keeping the genders separate would have been better for both the stars and the girls.
There's absolutely, 100% guaranteed Hololive fans that would have been crossover viewers if they had just gone the StarsJP route. But once they showed themselves to be a huge threat to the status quo, people abandoned them and even grew to hate them that wouldn't have otherwise.
It's just a natural response, real oonga boonga caveman "outsiders coming into my tribe" shit.

>>39041716
don't forget the retarded decision to shorten the collab ban
just adding to special treatment rrats

>>39042279
ACCELERATE

>>39042279
Aren't they already doing that?

>>39042279
Welcome to the modern economy, this is how all stocks are valued these days. It's not enough to make a healthy profit every quarter, you have to show growth every single quarter.
Sustainable? Absolutely not

>>39042277
Wonder if it will hit the original IPO price soon.

>>39042157
In case anything is privated. Sana privated a bunch of videos she didn't want to keep up like the one talking about her health I think.

>>39042284
>meanwhile JP Stars were kept separate and are now mogged by all of Stars EN
Nah mixed gens work

>>39042035
Entertainment industry is inherently volatile, so it's risky. It's understandable that outside investors are cautious especially because anycolor is relatively new.

>>39041226
>She is totally /here/ btw, just like me and (you)!
lel, it made me think of this
>Pippa is a totally /here/ friend, just like (You) and me
>Me? I am a totally /here/ friend, just like (You)

>>39038975
cringe
>39038988
cringe too
and both off topic

>>39042348
and ironically the collab spam ended up hurting them in the long run, didn't it?

WTF
How come the nigger got more viewers than the autist?

>>39042279
Yes? That's how modern investing, ESPECIALLY "tech" or "tech" adjacent investing works. If you're not making exponential profits you're failing expectations.

>>39042405
StarsEN would have had better CCV kept separate than with this mangled aborted merger attempt, dummy
They aren't even collabing anymore if you haven't noticed. Yes, their baseline CCV is better than StarsJP and always would have been either way.

>>39042405
That's not a fair comparison at all, In JP they were immediately seen as a threat, in EN they weren't as long as they were kept on their on group

>>39042279
Welcome to the stock market. From my experience, even if the company meets it's projections when earnings come out, the stock will still tank because investors don't just want normal growth, they want explosive growth that exceeds expectations. Projected growth is already baked into the market price, so to speak.

>>39042528
Fundamentally, Japanese fans knew what was going on better and sooner than EN ones did, and gatekept hard enough and early enough to prevent most damage.

>>39042157
Membership content will become inaccessible.

>>39042488
Sisters realized that leach is only good at leaching.

>>39042348
Yep, special treatment for IRyS back then made sense because she's a solo debut. Tempus has no excuse for that kind of shenanigans. Not to mention the weeks of shilling(collab) from the homolovers.

>>39042277
>-42% in a month
is this good or bad

>>39042398
How does this correlate with the overall Japanese stock market?

Homochad domination
Not a single w*man in sight

>>39042284
Hololive and Homostars already have plenty of exposure. Their challenge is just making worthwhile content.
If HoloEN had summer bikinis, they would not be slowly circling the drain right now. Also, they should have been streaming a lot and talking up Gura's animation and 3D Live, which got her a nice boost but should've been a lot more.

>>39042761
Pomu isn't a woman?

>>39042279
Gee anon why do you think we were doomposting nijisanji when they went for the ipo?

>>39042761
>Not a single w*man in sight
Pomu...

>>39042694
looking at a month is stupid and doesn't mean anything. looking at >>39042398 though it seems to be in decline. we'll see where it is in a year.

>>39042405
it's all hindsight now but it is true that they're mogging starsjp. maybe at the expense of holoen but they still managed to get 10k ccv sometimes so maybe this is not the worst path they took

>>39041144
common for most new shared stocks
>bunch of chinks buy tons of shares of thousands of companies
>check the index
>value going up? keep it
>value going down? dump eet
the only ones that would stick with a down-trend are the ones that got their money there because they believe in a proyect

>>39042761
>The entire vtuber industry suddenly hired a ton of males and retired all the girls in 2022.
I didn't see this one coming.

>>39042761
Pom....

>>39042773
Stars doesn't have an exposure issue anymore, people are just genuinely not interested in them and shoving them down your throat will only piss off existing fans.

>>39042279
Modern investing basically boils down to profit and growth. You can't choose only one, you have to achieve both. Good luck achieving them both forever. It's unsustainable.

>>39042761
Pomukeks...

>>39042806
Not since the surgery

>>39042761
Vtubing is now a maledom empire. We're entering the Omegaverse phase of the industry.

>4 am

>>39042498
Is Anycolor listed as a tech stock or entertainment stock?

>>39042694
Check the 50MA and 200MA

>>39042279
Nigga i'm not investing cause I believe in the potential of Seraph dazzlegarden I'm tryna pad my retirement fund

>>39042873
Or they got out to late and are just holding bags.

>>39042279
Underage hands typed this post

>>39040937

She must think we're retarded if she expected anyone to swallow that bullshit excuse.

>>39042894
It's not shoving them down your throat that's bad, nobody cares when yagoo ran stars advertisements for example. It's the "hologirls are going to collab with them now and if you don't like it suck it up" that really soured things on them

>>39043054
I don't think she actually said that. It was just my guess of her motivations.

>>39041098
fuck this, gura's been gone too long and HoloEN is dead. I am going to watch Pippa TONIGHT

>>39042761
I see they're going hard in milking the recent firing.

>>39042873 (me)
also, some investors don't only look at the shares, they look at ways to make profit with other works
in a business like this, they are expecting
>some shilling, "free" advertising
>using their ties to use services from the holders, aka, you make merch with our company
and you can imagine more stuff

otsuray~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucvlGUwrxYc

>>39040821
Here's a more reasonable reason. She did that because she felt obligated to make the stars successful. It's "Myth giving advice to their kouhais" moment and you know how that turned out with Council.

>>39042614
Nothing to do with the fans, StarsJP had a management-imposed collab ban on even interacting with holoJP for a couple of months and it was only lifted after the damage was done

>>39043209
What do you mean? The sisters are heartbroken and need all of nijiEN(only the men) to tell them that everything will be alright(for manjisanji)

>>39043209
I wonder if Sonny, Uki, and Alban will also get buffed streams when they come back

>>39038317
who’s this qtpie

>>39043352
Probably not. The other guys are going to milk it dry before they come back.

>>39043339
Viewers pretending to be heartbroken, getting pretend consolation from the talents also pretending to be heartbroken.
Simulated emotions, from simulated relationships, provided by fake anime men. Emotional mutual masturbation on a mass scale.

>>39043483
Vocal percussion on a whole 'nother level

>>39042846
>>39042806
With his breasts Fulgur is more woman than Pomu

>>39043352
Probably but not as big as Fulgur's since the drama tourist already got their fill

>>39043552
Fulgur is like 4 women, combined.

>>39043610
Or half a Selen

>>39043708
Outdated rrat

>>39043483
Vtubing has changed...

>>39043352
They will but no 30k. Sonny's fanbase are babying schizos like Axia's fans were, at least the ones in the Niji EN thread, and they're worried about him for entirely unrelated reasons.

>>39042284
Gen mixing wasn't the problem.
The holos acting like total fucking cunts shitting on people how said, "this isn't what I watch you for," however, DEFINITELY blew it way up. The girls simply couldn't handle being told no, so they went scorched Earth. In the process they tanked their numbers and fucked Tempus, and not in the way Tempus would have liked.

>>39043755
In the not too distant future. On a tired battlefield. Graduations have become routine.

>>39043833
3 Graduations a Month-sanji

>>39043779
Where the fuck do you guys even come up with all this? Kronii and Ame to a lesser extent are the only ones that even had any issues, due to not previously doing male collabs.

>>39043727
You don't have to be a white knight for her because of a joke.

Surely the rat can get at least 5k alone right?

>>39043891
If you graduate 3 people and hire 6 it's fine.

>>39043779
>The holos acting like total fucking cunts
Jesas unicorns have thin skin

>>39043910
Due to being cunts, you mean. (Ame literally being a bitch about it and Kronii being wishy-washy and going back on her word.) Gen mixing occurred well in advance to their stupid shit.
They wanted to stir the shit, and they got surprised they got covered in it. It's on them. It's time to admit it.

>>39043779
Gen mixing is always the problem. People don't want hololive to become discount nijisanji

>>39044021
Hololive has already had gen mixing. They just didn't make a production drama out of it, and no one was butthurt.
But could Ame and Kronii keep from running their mouths? Nope.

holokeks...

>>39044009
They could have handled it better (especially Kronii) but at the end of the day, true unicorns aren't gonna watch someone who collabs with males no matter how nice they are about it.

I found a tiktok 1view streaming on youtube.
It's a weird world.

>>39043985
She should once she gets to the Sada fight.

>>39044103
"True unicorns," a name made up for a boogeyman, are not the majority. Not even close to it. Vocal? Yes. Most people ignore them.
But you know who didn't because they wanted to make a crusade over it? Yeah, you already know.

>>39044068
but said "mixing" only existed to partake either in company events or public events, like the Apex Vsaiko (RIP will be missed)

>>39044101
Sex Gaywire bringing the (okish) numbers. What's the defining feature of the two guys who aren't the pornhub guy? What's their specialty?

>>39044103
Because true unicorns are a meme but come on we both know there are levels to this thing. Otherwise Mumei would get more shit than she does

>>39044189
>It doesn't count.
Okay.

So basically Nijification has become a success now? It's pretty much NijiEN domination every single day.

>>39044178
Well the "majority" of their fans didn't stop watching them regardless. It's too tough to disentangle these questionable dramas from their erratic streaming schedules, long and random breaks, and mediocre content choices. Both of them had been on a long slide of decline well before Tempus debuted.

>>39043727
no way she's fatter now?

>>39043779
Remove the:
>Ame and her improve yourself speech, as well her "help" to the blue homo.
>Kronii and her stupid megayab.
And the collabs still happen. Would things have been better?.
I don´t think his will solve the problems that Holo En has, especially myth. The lack of unity, perms, Gura being irregular with her streamings, lack of pursuing interesting projects with the collaboration of others, etc.

https://twitter.com/umru_/status/1603556571417661440
Holy kek

>>39044101
What surprises me the most in that pic is there still people who legit watch and sends SC to Honma. Self-respect score must be negative.

>>39044284
Yep, HoloEN lost due to lack of depth leading to burnout and empty days. People moved elsewhere. Not all to nijiEN, but a portion.

>>39044382
Yeah, it would have been better.

>>39044409

>>39044195
I've never seen people cope harder than the insistence that the Holostar collab didn't count because she was awkward and quiet, as if that is a trait unique to that particular collab. She was fine with it, then changed her mind later, which is fair enough, Miko and Subaru have done the same, but it still counts if you're going to hold that against someone.

>>39044382
>Would things have been better
Yes. There still would have been complaining and fighting, but they basically slapped a pitbull before letting it into a preschool.

>>39044192
Doppio is the pornhub guy, apparently a bit schizophrenic or something
Ver is relatively normal. That’s it

>>39044409
well that's ridiculous
who the fuck is this, he made a song on sinderella?

>>39044409

>>39044409
kek

>>39044492
Now what could be the actual difference between Ame and Kronii versus Subaru and Miko? Any takers?

>>39044382
It would've been. Even better for the homos if they also didn't spam them.

>>39044506
Some who that provided instrumentals it seems.

>>39044432
Looking at the NijiEN girl numbers, doesn't look like many people moved to NijiEN. Probably moved to small corpos/indies or just quit vtubers.

>>39044432
I mean, when you mass-spam waves like what Anykara is doing, you will eventually starve competitors out of potential recruits.
Seeing the massive success of xSoilei proves that NijiEN management can still recreate lightning in a bottle.

>>39044284
Yes. They managed to confuse HoloEN into killing itself.

>>39044409
What's this about, her saying "nigga" like a decade ago?

>>39044589
>massive success of xSoilei
Are the standards that low?

>>39044477
What's the full timeline of context?

>>39044409
Fucking clout chasers

>>39044492
You can't force people to be mad about something that they aren't mad about, no matter how much you try to claim they should be.
You still fundamentally don't understand what bothers people about these situations, and why it doesn't apply to Mumei's case. It must be willful ignorance on your part.

>>39044409
What’s he referring to?

>>39044284
The only thing that's become nijified has been social media, and that's completely on holoEN and Cover more than it is Niji. They threw away all the mindshare they had and essentially let a branch that found a fanbase to debut almost 30 members and cause an entire set of viewers online to start spreading how much more freedom niji has, how much more of a family they are, how hololive restricts their talents and are the boogeyman of the scene.

Cover didn't do shit to stop this. They just had to debut a fucking generation and had people start flooding twitter again with EN talk. But instead half the branch died for the year, no EN3, practically zero tweeting by any of the girls, no one put any effort in and Cover didn't bother supporting them in any manner either with lives/outfits etc. etc.

Essentially just allowed Niji to take over all of social media and spam everywhere to spread their bullshit

I think EN in general is reclining lately because too many drama and most of viewers just move away to avoid drama. I mean the big reason EN vtubers are successful because it rarely have drama compared to other media and most viewers just watch vtubers to avoid drama

>>39044626
Sisters like to memory hole ILunas initial numbers which where better than this new wave.

>>39044576
nijiEN girls are just twitch whores with anime avatars
a lot of people just quitting or don't give a fuck unless holoEN does an event

>>39044409
LMAO

>>39044409

>>39044661
1 person QRTed them saying Mori was racist. That’s it.

Cover has to cut ties with Mori due to her controversy, right?

>>39044698
Well, that, and it's becoming too "EN." Like, "Here's the very Western culture of bullshit you decided to watch Hololive to escape from," EN.

>>39044766
>getting 1 guy'd
Classic

bae inclining

>>39044409
>>39044477
>ISRAEL
No fuckign way AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>39044766
>Burning a bridge to UMG because some rando tweeted bullshit at you
Classic twitter move

>>39044690
HoloEN is just boring. They have no influence anymore. Their songs don't get covered by the rest of the scene

>>39044589
The only good recruits were in the first two waves, which was too early for Hololive to debut another Gen anyway. None of Ethyria would fit in Hololive and the iLuna girls aren't even qualified to be vtubers. Any random person from a small corporation would be better than them.

>>39044690
I wouldn't be surprised if AnimeNYC and Crunchyroll Expo decide to feature NijiEN next year.

>>39044409
man's on an industry blacklist speedrun

>>39044409
>over one song
>from YEARS AGO
>that UNO disowned
what the actual fuck KEK

>>39044900
Is he though?

>>39044698
>the big reason EN vtubers are successful because it rarely have drama compared to other media
Vshojo vs Nux… Reimu-Vox yab… all those twitch vtuber fights…

As much as I wish for EN3, I still think it's a band-aid fix until they do something about the shit that's been going on with the branch. Like we're looking at the symptoms rather than the causes.

>>39044917
Wait, it wasn't even a Sinderella song?

>>39044409
Baffling tweet

>>39044927
Is it a smart business move to talk shit about someone you did work for on the day of their big album release?
He might not get blacklisted, but if he doesn't it's only because he's beneath the notice of anyone with any power

NijiEN is currently winning in clip views too based on clip anon numbers. The only thing HoloEN has over NijiEN is the fan-animation, but it looks like it's also changing because many talented animators are switching to NijiEN.

>>39044738
>pronouns
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>39044927
>shittalking an artist that makes them way more money than he does with no proof

baffling thread right now

>have 3x the talents
>win in bulk numbers
Why are anons here so fucking retarded?

>>39045035
Nice, post a few recent ones? I'm always looking for new animation channels.

>>39045035
They're doing fine, but I don't see any "winning" here.

>>39044409
LOL Karma really hits back at you.

>>39045096
>right now

Baffling how Universal overlook people like Enna, Ren or Ike for Mori. Just Ike alone can help them sell millions of copies in China.

>>39045253
>selling digital media
>in China

>>39045164
But you see the incline am i right? Therefore they are winning

Baffling how anon's mom didn't abort him in the womb

>>39045164
>Not 1 NijiEN beating Fauna, someone who has people constantly questioning why her clip view are low

>>39044409
I dont particularly care or watch Mori, but seeing retards shooting themselves in the foot over her is always great.

>>39044409
>>39044477
>>39044738
>pronouns
>"This is a legacy verified account. It may or may not be notable"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>39044992
im going to try to summarize this and hopefully i dont fuck up
>umru gets reached out to make instrumentals for universal japan
>song comes out and promotes it
>supposedly, someone QRT'd hm saying he produced a song for Mori, aka UNO, when she sang lyrics with nigga(ithink?)
>immediatley deletes the tweet promoting it, apologizing
>you are here now

>>39045253
>Universal Japan
>China
kek

>>39045422
Kek

>>39045320
Seethe more, Luxiem are much more popular than Mori when it comes to music.

>>39045334
You have to adjust the clip counts by dividing by sub count. Then it's more fair. The ratio of clip views to sub counts is called the Mindchair Factor. It shows how much mindchairs you have relative to your base audience.

>>39044416
why would people that watch and send SC to Honma surprise you?

I don't get it, holotranny.

>>39045413
>not buying twitter blue
Oh lawd, I bet that tranny hates elon too.

>>39045322
Even "graduated" Yugo didn't get bigger incline than Bae.

>>39045457
>Luxiem are much more popular than Mori when it comes to music.
Baffling statement

>>39045502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D66eHXt19dY
12m views baby
au naturale style

>>39044409
I have no idea what's going on.

>>39045164
Does Pomu not get clipped or something? Does she have a similar problem as Fauna does or just a bad clip day for her?

>>39045488
NOOOOON MY NARRATIVE!!! AAAAHH!!

>>39038950
I wonder how many "rap" albums there are that don't have the E for explicit next to them.

>>39045553
He got fed old dox shit and decided to believe them at face value instead of talking to the artist in question

>>39045457
Do you know the word for a person who makes a fool of themselves for the amusement of others?
A clown.

>>39044409
>>39044477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um_8VrrQrHw
Is this the song >he made?

>>39045502
All of Luxiem songs this year outperform Mori songs dumbass

>>39045164
JFC Kobo is that high

>>39045253
you do realize that luxiem's popularity was manufactured?

>>39045605
>A clown.
Wrong, a lolcow.

>>39045606
Looks like it

>>39045674
Birthday buff.

Has UMG even done 1 good thing to Mori?

Don't let all this tomfoolery make you ignore the fact that the rat hasn't reached 5k with 0 overlap

This is why I stick to hololive these nijiwhores are shameless

>>39045677
Kek, fame is fame dumbass. If a company has the money to do it, why shouldn't they? Money spent way better than investing in a "game" that doesn't help the vtuber industry.

>>39045573
Sooo the entire NF discography?

>>39042279
people here already called anycolor's model unsustainable because they aren't gonna fulfill people's dreams and work talents like mules. when talents realizes that, shit happens and risks to the brand starts to appear

>>39045854
Why is 0 overlap even relevant here anon? Bae is barely even known for her pokemon playthrough. She was the very first EN to play it and got 7.6k and bled the rest of the way through. No one cares for the shit game on EN side

>>39045909
but the game would help the industry. it only benefits just hololive though but thats the edge cover will have over others

>>39045674
You can check her streams, 2 zatsu with her ordinary numbers, the rest are handcam, karaoke and celebrations.
I want to see her go back to gaming streams though (please no valorant), her hands are cute but I'm a bit tired of her handcam.

>>39045854
Moona is live playing 3d ring fit tho

>>39046036
Fauna and Irys always get good numbers on Pokemon

>>39045253
>digital media
>in China

>>39044409
i dont like mori but even i admit that this is cringe as fuck
what a retard

>>39042201
She just wants to sing and she's super autistic

>>39046095
A game like that will only bring infamy to Hololive since everyone I've seen is trashing even the Alpha build. It's never going to be a success.

>>39046124
>Fauna
Yes
>IRyS
No

IRyS went from nearly 10k to 7k.
Fauna is the one who still gets 8-9k despite playing it 4 fucking times

>>39046124
>IRyS
Japanese
>Fauna
Fans will watch her for anything. Period. Every other EN has gotten dogshit numbers for it. JOPs are pushovers who accept things for what they are and don't want to disturb the peace. The west is still shitting on the game to this day and it's been the laughing stock for the past month

>>39045850
Set up a merch store for her, get her stuff into commercials and convenience store Muzak tracks, handle the distribution details for her concerts and albums, subcontract people to work on her music ect. In turn they seem to expect a LOT of production and success. So was it worth it if she already had like 60% of that just being in Hololive? Only Mori can answer that.

>>39046240
The nijinigger fears the holoearth

>>39046240
>everyone I've seen is trashing even the Alpha build.
Where?

>>39046240
>everyone I've seen is trashing even the Alpha build
Is anyone even talking about it?

>>39045850

Nijicn keeps getting into drama kek. Doppio's pl b2 team leader is leaking a lot of shit about him (he also applied to holo btw). Picrel seems to be incoming yugo roommate stream.

>>39046309
>>39046328
You see in japanese forums that totally do exist and i can verify they shit on it constantly, what? proof? why would you need that?

>>39046298
Kek we don't fear it. In fact, we even encourage Cover to invest more so their ilks know what a failure that game is.

Moom at 800k subs soon

>>39046309
Nijiniggers spend so much time in their discord they forget that it isn't public

>>39046450
Latechama...

>>39040448
Tempus tweet doko

>>39046124

>>39045591
He did nothing wrong, though. He didn't even trashtalk her. Just said, "Don't want to be a part of that." The end.

>>39046510
Jenma was the one controlling the account.

>>39046525
That's a lot more than <5k

>>39046504
how many threads do i need to go or is there a catalog

>>39046594
Sure but don't pretend IRyS has streamed it as much as Bae. I would say watch her numbers fall but the bitch won't play it anymore because she cares more about being a numberfag than actually giving her viewers an experience