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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>30,227: Fulgur (Nijisanji)>24,446: Suisei (Hololive)>21,533: Hal (Neo Porte)>18,841: Subaru (Hololive)>18,742: Leos (Nijisanji)>18,570: Pekora (Hololive)>17,341: Nene (Hololive)>15,869: Tamaki (Noripro)>15,063: Noel (Hololive)>14,824: Kanata (Hololive)>14,600: Okayu (Hololive)>13,135: Fulgur (Nijisanji)>12,419: Lamy (Hololive)>12,324: Hayato (Nijisanji)>11,627: Polka (Hololive)>11,597: Lamy (Hololive)>11,386: Luna (Hololive)>10,839: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,688: Salome (Nijisanji)>10,610: Koyori (Hololive)>10,375: Salome (Nijisanji)
>>39025582>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 -Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation>PER COMPANY9x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Miko, Mio, Toya1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY229x: Hololive108x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER54x: Pekora23x: Miko19x: Kuzuha18x: Aqua16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru10x: Marine8x: Mio, Toya7x: Suisei6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta
>>39024503>>39024774Update from Darktide-anon, with some info on what kind of Perms Cover actually asks for specifically.
As someone who tried Counterside and kinda liked it (pretty f2p friendly) a quick glance at the rankings shows that of the top 100 regular PVP players, 21 have Hololive pfps or frames 3 Gura, 5 Mori, 3 Ina, 4 Ame, and 6 Kiaras. For the RTA PVP 2 of the top 10 have Holo avatars. The #1 in both modes has an Ame avatar. The other leaderboards such as overall achievements, and raid content is also around 50% Hololive avatars. Seems like it's doing pretty well. The big money won't drop until next month though, due to the way the collab is structured.
>>39025693Is there even any holo who would play 40K Darktide? Or is it for the homos?
>>39025693>People thought that "fax" thing was real and not a hyperbole.What a bunch of retards.
>>39025693Interesting, and I actually believe it honestly. Too mundane to make a juicy lie.I wonder if member's only perms were approved?
Why does Ollie do numbers on twitter but not her streams?
>>39025781Gura was the one talking about it originally.
>>39025693Looking forward to the Tempus Darktide collab
>>39025693>no vermintide perms
>>39025808All of it was it seems.>>39025781The whole thing started with Gura mentioning she wanted to play it but didn't have perms. Then an anon contacted his friend who works at fatshark who then contacted Cover.Also people like Botan and others who have played L4D might be interested
I was promised Fungus lewds and I didn't see any.
>>39025791Some elevenese companies unironically still use fax. Isn't there a push from the government to completely eliminate fax as a crucial element in a few years?
>>39025832She is the closest to a NijiEN in hololive.
>>39025693My fax rrats…
>>39025875Yes, they've got a minister of digital affairs who's trying to eliminate fax stuff
>>39025693I wonder why they don't ask for blanket perms for all their games in these mails.
>>39025873wait, was it perms for EN or global?
>>39025875Man there are companies in the US that still require fax. Some of this is due to old laws that explicitly say only paper or fax is permissible for so and so form especially when dealing with the government. The laws were written before email even existed.
>>39025693Would work well as a SNOT collab, or even SNO or just Faumei
>>39025875Some JP companies still have their salarymen run around Tokoyo for face-to-face meetings to discuss unimportant things that could be done over the phone.
>>39025873>>39025835Chat told Gura it wasn't a good game and she lost interest during her stream
>>39025932Is there a difference? I assume it's global.
>>39025873>fatsharkWonder if the thumbnail or the waiting screen image for that screen will be a fat gura nolife-ing the game.
What if the Luxiem off collab is only Vox,Shu and Ike
>>39025875>Some elevenese companies unironically still use fax. Isn't there a push from the government to completely eliminate fax as a crucial element in a few years?Every single country has certain sectors that lean heavily on fax including the United States and for one simple reason>Fax transmissions are authenticatedThat means if the transmission completes correctly there is a guarantee for both parties that1) the exact thing that was sent was received2) that the party saying they sent something really sent (because they have the receipt confirmation signed by the receiving party fax machine)3) that the party that was supposed to have received it really received (for the same reason above)That, among other things, makes a fax transmission to be accepted as evidence in court while even emails and non registered mail usually aren't or can be tossed out of there is doubt of their authenticity.
Good news
>>39025972Really? Chat was retarded then. It's a fun game if your pc can handle it.
>>39026090Assuming they're in the UK I don't see why Mysta would skip at least.
>>39026133oh nyo..
>>39026133well..
>>39026090Would be kinda lame for Mysta to skip since he's in the UK, even more so if he's just going to keep doing his handcam stream solo. Would feed rrats just like Gura doing her handcam instead of joining the HoloEN Halloween event.
>>39025875The fax thing has also been a braindead meme repeated by people who don't know shit outside of their own bubble.I work in banking and we have to use faxes all the time for home loans all the time. Burger btw. I know the US medical industry also uses fax as well. It's a solid way to handle sensitive information that doesn't warrant complete encryption
Sanitizing the data for the usual tables and here is an interesting find>Kuzuha has the third longest stream this month so farhttps://vrabi.net/video/4ERZuz6mK_w12 hours of Pokemon, never dipping below 12k
>>39026224He's probably gonna be there too but lets be real, if he skips out it makes sense. Mysta is like 50x more popular than any luxiem member especially now that Vox got essentially cut off from most of Chinese fanbase. Unless they do gimmick/novelty streams there really isn't much to gain on his end compared to his own buff streams at this point
>>39026334Preempting the obvious questionsSecond longest was thishttps://vrabi.net/video/NP2RldwKv_YLongest was thishttps://www.vstats.jp/video/j4AxtfTVymg
>>39026334Does this stream not get saved because he was just above the 12 hour mark?
>reddit managed to make Gura tweetWE DID IT AGAIN
>>39026633>we
EN3 is coming sooner than you expect
>>39026820June 2023
>>39026820Ever is sooner than most people expect nowadays.
>>39026090This is an off collab? I thought it's just a totsu.10k is pretty bad for an off collab so I doubt it.
>>39026565vods above 12 hours get saved but cut off after the 12 hour mark
>>39026820Niji will debut a VTA wave and NijiEN gamers before EN3. I'm like 99% positive now. VTA later this month or January. Gamers in January or February
>>39026820It barely matters at this point unless it's literally next week. They already blew it, past tense, damage already done.
>>39026820Sooner than never
>>39026890It's an off collab but it was guerilla and unannounced, HoloEN style. Sisters are used to having schedules so most wouldn't show up especially at this time.
>>39026820Just let the branch die and move all the relevent talent to jp side. Please cover free us from this hell
I commend Chloe for finishing the vanilla playthrough of Frostpunk in 1 sitting. It is not a hard game to play but certainly not the easiest one if you just starting up. Also she made it through without disabling the hope mechanism.
>>39026934At this rate, might as well wait till Holofes, because HoloEN is at an all time low right now and EN vtubing is at a rough spot.
>>39026820>EN3 is comingyeah, from me
>>39027018>to jp sideYou mean ID side, right?
>>39027000Oh, they'll likely do multiple streams + karaoke and milk the shit out of it (unlike how Myth wasted so much time on setting up Kiara's 3D live) so I think they got the cripple gold of month locked, as if they didn't already with HoloEN being dead as fuck right now.
>gura emergency tweetBet your ass some cover intern sounded the alarm after what happened today on reddit.
>>39027018There are no relevant EN members, Gura isn't even second army anymore
>>39026820EN3 is Tempus
>>39027096I can't believe that is what it takes for Nijien to win a month
>>39027032Well, I think it would help to get something out next week if they could, which is why I said that caveat, because I think the atmosphere in the fanbase is at an absolute nadir right now (or maybe I'm just projecting my own feelings). A big exciting event, and new chuubas who aren't burnt out zombies to stream Christmas events, would really help.But yeah, if not that, then just wait until around HoloFes to capitalize on the hype for that I guess
>>39025932EN only permissions are totally useless, because, outside of sponsored streams, Cover will never let EN play a game unless JP is able to play it too. Keywords being 'ABLE TO', not necessarily 'CAN'. They got JP permissions for Callisto Protocol, even though JP can't actually buy the game.
A marine clipper converted to ange. I remember this channel's icon was only marine before she added ange last month.https://youtube.com/@user-dm8hs2tu7z
>>39025582Damn, so nijiEN got more gold on the main tally than holoEN in 2022?
>>39027256sasuga, nijiJP is winning the mindchair battle
>>39027221>then just wait until around HoloFes to capitalize on the hype for that I guessThe audience is one fuckup away from giving the branch for dead and moving on away from it.It could as well be the EN girls for one reason or another not showing up for the MK tournament.I genuinely don't think EN can wait much to show something, anything to prove to their audience they aren't dead yet
>>39027256Gotta give it to him, he's consistent in his taste for redheads
>>39027313If the new nijiEN girls can stop having open VC and surprised collabs then I am seeing a grim future for holoEN.
>>39027256Why do nijiniggers falseflag as a holoclipper then change to niji? Kind of disgusting behavior if you ask me. This dude wasn't the only one.
>>39026820What's more probable, that EN3 debuts until January, or that I predict some anon will die from a stroke?
>>39027163This is probably the most buff NijiEN month in history, and coincidently probably HoloEN's worst month on record. People were assuming Niji would take the month in cripple even before half of HoloEN got sick.
>>39027256I approve of his choice of Ange.
>>39027221I think rushing them out now would just be awkward. As much as she got shafted by releasing an album at this dead time for HoloEN, this week is Mori's album week so it's better to not overshadow her with a new debut.
>>39027439Yeah they can't though.NijiEN is culturally incapable of capturing any of the bored CGDCT enjoyers, they literally can't do it. The dudes in the branch will detect any whiff if success going to a girl that's unrelated to them, and jump on her like vultures to tear it down, and it's not like the girl can ask them not to do that. They're her very important senpais after all.
>>39027503Any anon on 4chan regardless of board? Then the latter is more probable.
>>39027439kek, but they can't. Today Mysta made sure to pay a visit to one of the girls to make sure she won't be considering to become "Holo-Lite"
>>39027256This is once spicy betrayal, until ange happened he made 800 holo clips and no niji since nearly 3 years ago.
>>39027530there's always some sort of SOME reason not to release a gen, Hololive is a big fucking company with lots of streamers always doing stuff.Mori doesn't deserve or need a full 1.5 weeks to hype her album. If someone is going to listen to it, they'll listen to it. And if they're gonna buy it, they probably already did for the most part.
JP7 will come before EN3
>>39027522If nijiEN somehow loses this month. I would legit be worried for their future
>>39026418>https://www.vstats.jp/video/j4AxtfTVymg>14hour ASMRWhat could possibly?Also, looks like Ex-Albio managed to trim his stream, so he could keep the archive up.
>>39027313The EN streaming market is really competitive outside of just vtubers, and things happen really fast in the world of online entertainment. We've seen huge channels rise and fall pretty rapidly over the years. Maybe Cover doesn't understand that the EN market isn't like JP where viewers seem to stick with the same thing for longer.
>>39027637What is this per-emptive cope, holobrony?
WAIT WHAT?!https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1554146225384988672?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
>>39027522I think the NijiEuro off collab month was still the most buff NijiEN month.That was Luxiem during their prime and they had first time off collab buffs and honestly a lot of good ideas for buff streams. Vox even did his most coombait Asmr at the time (bath stream).The off collab numbers will be enough to win cripple golds, but I really doubt they'll reach the heights that off collab reached.
>>39027717Also: /ggg/ is melting down but at very least they have a sense of humor, the image comes from there
>>39027717boooo old cum tweet
>>39027637That would probably require some miracle like Gura coming back today and streaming buff content everyday until January.
>>39027717Nice link, retard
>>39027439They're in a mixed gen they literally can't avoid these collabs lol
>>39027697It's the Truth. They had the anniversary of their most popular group, a new debut, an offcollab and 70% of HoloEN being out.
>>39027697Your branch better not fuck this up is what he is saying
>>39027717>https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1554146225384988672>ef_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^authorYour PC is being used for bitcoin mining.
>>39027637Gura coming back and doing 10 facecan streams in a row would have no bearing on whether NijiEN is successful or not. It's a good month for them regardless.
>>39027717Gura would actually say this.
>>39027730You're forgetting the other buffs they've had this month, like new debuts and the first loss of a member. The numbers could end up being lower, but I still think it's overall more buffs, especially if they get the whole wave there for the off collab.
>>39027868If they win the month they're a success. If they lose the month, they're worthless shitters who should all graduate. This is the iron law.Remember: Context is cope. Nuance is weakness.
>>39025582>Pekora under 20kWell we are heading into CCVID season again
>>39027256>Ange and Marineyeah, that works really well.>over a month of Ange clips>some Ange clips did 5-10 times better than the Marine clips from old streams.You can't really expect clippers to survive off of just Marine streams in 2022.She was a Coco and Pekora clipper sometimes too btw.
>>39027644Might be a replay and not really a stream.I see indies do that a lot where they have some stream just play a bunch of old VODs of them singing or doing ASMR all day.
>>39027947It's a Fate watchalong
>>39027773Gura has shown imo these past 2 months that even her solo charm is wearing off.Like it or not, the reason Hololive is strong is because of bonds between members and the chemistry that happens when they interact.Gura has been on a weird self isolation for months now, very few collabs and never retweets or shills for anyone but herself despite HoloEN being so small. You basically only get a random holo-related tangent during SC reading if you're lucky. You don't need to be NijiEN-levels of "omg we're family" every other day, but if you don't follow Gura closely and watch every minute, you might think she stopped being friends with Myth for a while now. Even the most notorious Sololive JPs like Pekora and Aqua are never this isolated.
>>39028097Ogey
>>39028097While Gura is the worst offender this applies to all of Myth right now, they're all basically doing their own thing. Even Council, which isn't as bad, is kind of following suite.
>>39027953>Vaan ch. digging through every Ina VOD to find 30s of clippable content to keep her in people's mindsI know she's not going to, but it feels unreal to me that Ina is going to be so "on break" that she can't even do a Merry Christmas member's post or tweet. It'll take her literally 20s.
>>39028283>Even Council, which isn't as bad, is kind of following suite.No, it really isn't. It's just Kronii.
>>39028097>Like it or not, the reason Hololive is strong is because of bonds between members and the chemistry that happens when they interact.Little interaction means little storylines. Without the stories the magic is gone.
Has any other group gotten a win as big as Grimgang has? When even the toxic positivity hugbox that is reddit is doomposting you now thing are reallyGRIM
Can Finana get over 500 viewers?
>>39028097This is true and honestly I don't know why people expect HoloEN to do better when no one is even fucking trying except for the shitters like Kiara and Bae. Everyone else doesn't give a single fuck and will actively filter their fanbase. The fact that HoloEN can be in such a miserable state and still be top of the western vtubing industry proves the power of the brand and how fucking retarded management is for letting it waste.
>>39028349I knew joining Grimgang early would pay off
>>39025582>>30,227: Fulgur (Nijisanji)Holobros?
>Doppio already entering 3view territoryHonestly I'll be mad if he ends up lower than Ren, Ren is a shitter with no charisma.
>>39028283It's really just Kronii, but I think even Kronii might shill Mori's album a bit with a retweet.Mumei and Bae are always in full unity mode.
>>39028310Come to think of it, i haven't seen a solo Ina clip in a while. Not even recommended.
>>39028382They're not at the top though
>>39028349Some people are trying to doompost on reddit but they get shouted down by people saying that they should watch Tempus and that 2 gens is MORE than enough!The people downvoting these posts and replying, of course, don't actually watch HoloEN and so don't really give a shit that the entire branch is flatlining. The underpinning of all of the smug replies to the "EN3 where?!" posts is barely-concealed joy that the unicel chuds are getting what they deserve for ignoring their special boys.
>>39028349>Myth and Council numbers are down across the board>Yugo graduated/terminated>Rushia terminated>Multiple nijiJP graduatedGrimgang is really the only winner this year.
>>39028283Fauna did an entire month of collabs with Bae, Mumei and Bae do a bunch of covers together, and Mumei and Fauna mention each other a lot on streamIt's just Kronii who's the odd one out
>>39028382So much wrong in this post I have to assume it's a false flag
>>39027564isn't that actual leeching?
>>39028441>4 minsHe's heading straight to 1-2k land, but come on man.
>>39028441>MFW Vox and Mysta cannibalize the new branch.Wasn't NijiEN a family? Nijibros?
>Myth did an offcollab>everyone hated each other after that>Council did an offcollab>they are still friends afterwardReally, Myth themselves are the problem.
>>39028349its beautiful, we are all united to die together in darkness
Cover fucked up long ago. They should have released a new EN gen 3-4 months after the first one, before they became too big for their own good. Ironically, nijiEN being shit allowed Myth to grow massively, and now they're lazy, complacent, and increasilly irrelevant.
>>39028349>reddit is doompostingShow it.
>>39028568I was looking at his graph and he was already plateauing before the Vox funnel saved him
>>39028636Mori and Amelia are the problem.
>>39028636I wonder if everything would be different if that off-collab had never happenedOr maybe the entire hinge point was just that Mori was in charge of booking the AirBNB. There's a universe somewhere out there where Ina booked it and all of HoloEN are spamming holiday handcam streams and collabs right now
>>39028382They're not going to be at the top for much longer if they don't right the ship.
>>39028673He probably means that instead of the classic "just watch someone else!", even reddit is realizing there are some serious issues with HoloEN in terms of lacking personnel and the mood is definitely quite shit right now.
>>39028670>now they're lazy, complacent, and increasilly irrelevantThis isn't even pot calling the kettle black.You're yelling NIGGER at cookware.
>>39028673Just go through frontpage. Multiple threads about most of EN being sick.
>>39028742Ina doesn't even plan collabs, she just accepts invitations lmao
>>39028522Please explain I'm curious. Gura doesn't give a single shit, Ina has been MIA for months now, Kronii had all the cards to become a top contender but actively hates her fans, streaming and Hololive.Where is my BBG part 2? Where is my Worms tournament but girls only? Where are my EN collabs and events involving more than 3 people? Most of those could easily reach 30k just a couple months ago, now everyone is struggling to break 20k, even Gura.
>>39028831Kek holofans are so entitled
>>39028826Yeah well she could have at least clicked "book" on an AirBNB for a work event without spreading the address to half her hard-partying social network and giving them a key
>>39028742Realistically, the only other person who would book the airBNB is Kiara, and I don't see it would turn out any different.
I didn't even realize this was on the Holo subreddit. It somehow blends right in.https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zmj4lx/wiideee_yatteyattaze/The mods have truly left.
>>39028770not all criticism comes from nijinogs you faggot
>>39028940>I don't see it would turn out any differentYou're taking the piss.
>>39028940>I don't see it would turn out any differentHow?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/youtube-moderation-bots-will-crack-down-on-spam-in-comments-live-chats/
>>39028940Come on man, Kiara isn't a prude but she's no Mori
>>39028940Yeah Kiara definitely would have called over all her fratboy homies from the southern US to partyA socially autistic Austrian who seems to have exactly one non-Holo friend on Earth
I NEED an AI vtuber who streams 24/7
>>39026820>EN gamers>mixed gender
>>39029027>called over all her fratboy homies from the southern US to partyWhat the fuck was Mori thinking?
>>39028831Too many people who either don't organize collabs (Ina, Kronii, Irys, Gura) or have low social batteries that they just don't really like doing them often.Imagine being Mori or Ame and how demoralized you would be if you constantly bring up group collab ideas and just get ghosted.
>>39029097That's the thing, she rarely does
>>39025582>30,227: FulgurWhat in the actual fuck is this shit?
>>39029097>These autistic bitches have probably never been to a party in their lives>TIME TO SHOW EM A GOOD TIME
>>39029142The power of being a talented streamer
>>39029097The real truth about Mori is that, despite all her achievements and her prideful public facade, she's a pushover eager for approval from her friends and family. She's easy to manipulate and use.
>>39029142Talking about Yugo's termination + weak as fuck day from everyone else.It's basically the equivalent of Pekora and Gen 3 talking about Rushia on the day she got fired.
>>39029142Yugo died for the Fungus gold
>>39029142Yugo "graduation"
>>39028673>3/4 top postsat least they're memeing it now instead of straight doomposting. Gets upvotes and stays on the site.https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/top/>6th is picrel
>>39027897She would say "shark idol," and management wouldn't.BUSTEDED
>>39029097Pretty sure it was her sister that invited everyone
How are you liking all this holoEN content lately anon? I am doing a great job aren't I?
>>39029124>Ame>bring up group collab ideaslolno>Morido you want more collabs with tempiss? because that's how you get more collabs with tempiss
>>39029124Both Mori and Ame are complete turboautists and part of the problem. Remember Ame during Rust? She was such an antisocial sperg even diehard teamates were complaining in /hlgg/. And Mori is a retard who will cause problem to anyone getting close to her.
>>39029242
>>39029242What content?
>>39029177Fuck, I genuinely believe this is what came across that retard's mind.
>>39029242I HATE YOU
>>39029142He was talking about Yugo's graduation. NijiEN is bigger than HoloJP and NijiJP now. Imagine Suisei and Pekora streams losing to a normal chatting stream from a NijiEN, a year ago everybody would have called me insane. And you people try to tell me HoloJP hasn't reclined.
>>39029208Thumbnail made me think she had a dick
>>39029142>Let's talk title>Black thumbnailGee, you tell me!
>>39029142He talked about Yugo's "graduation"
>>39029253Based cock obsessed retard
>>39029271Don't use Sora to shitpost
>>39029238I mean, her sister shouldn't be in a holo off-collab in the first place.
>>39028479The tempus advertisers aren't at the top of posts, and more often than not disregarded now
>>39028957t-chan gave up
>>39029242i want cum paint his anal orifice
>>39029186That’s incredibly hot
>>39028382>retarded managementyou'd think that there's management people that jumped ship because that's what they're paid to do in the first place? Looking into it more like, in a what if way, this is a sympton rather than the cause situation.
>>39029253Mori and Ame only had to involve Tempiss because only HoloEN doesn't respond to collab requests unlike HoloID.
>>39029242I've been enjoying Vesper's stuff, ngl.But seriously now. Stop trolling and bring EN3.I've had to watch Fleshstreamers, Koreans and fucking NijiEN, because there's nothing in this time frame!
>>39029142Fungus getting gold when the 92k IRyS stream didn't is proof that all of this "daily gold" shit should be retired. It's fucking stupid and eliminating it would make the threads better.
>>39029242I'm mooming and will be mooming tonight. Life is good.
>>39029374cope and seethe
>>39028313>that collab with fauna>doesn't fucking do her preps beforehandshe really brings it upon herself
Well at least things can't possibly get more grimmer
>>39029374It's just a reminder for how stupid anyone who takes it seriously is.I remember a Mario kart tournament last year getting like 150k and losing to a Pekora 180k costume and people were calling the tournament a failure because it slipped lol
>>39029274https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRB8fji0nHtWp1yGoN99i9Woo3W5KUNbE&feature=sharehttps://youtu.be/e5LaKxJVeVIhttps://youtu.be/WoiFNXENdaM
>>39029142A vtuber as garbage as Fungus getting gold is proof to me that maybe this hobby isn't for me. It's just not fun anymore and what gets traction is totally opposite if what I enjoy. Fucj all of this.
>>39029450Well, you said that, but...
>>39029450If Mumei streams tonight she'll be overlapping Bae.
>>39027256paid shill by nijisanji
>>39029282>normal chatting>graduation talk
>>39029208cute!
>>39029374Daily gold race is fun and should be kept. The problem is when people start taking gold total tallies as serious stats meaning anything, like the person who posts gold totals per gen. Unless you're one of the people at the top of the list, the difference between 1 and 0 is just the kind of overlap you were lucky enough to have for your buff stream.
Fulgur is finally vindicated. Council is shit.
>>39029463Oh nice, Fauna skyrim. When I can expect next stream?
>>39029450>inb4 gura collabs with tempiss out of spiteI mean there's a precedent
>>39029450>couldn't get grimmerGura could read one of the comments from members accusing her of not caring about her fans/not enjoying streaming anymore and instead of improving herself, choose to cry and graduate.
>>39029463Haha, I just tried to click that Zutomayo song for the first time and it's not available in my country.My country is the fucking United States.I assume we already talked about this earlier
>>39028636it's the fucking party in the airbnb that changed everything
WAITFUCKI'M MISSING LUNA'S SPACE
>>39029450
>>39029142Bigger than Sana's graduation stream announcement btw. Definitive proof that NijiEN is bigger than HoloEN.
>>39029563Why can't timer-travelers do anything other than shitposting on 4chan?
>>39029557Zuttomayo region locking their songs for six months is apparently nothing new according to one of their fans that popped up in global and posted an uploadhttps://files.catbox.moe/c8rorj.webm
>>39029097wasn't that her sister's party and mori being a massive pushover?
>>39029563Is that why afterwards they had 3 offcollab streams and Ame mentioned Gura and Mori setting off fireworks in the backyard after Ina and Kiara had gone home? Bet you won’t reply to this.
>>39029374Yeah that shit was retarded. Especially when it slipped to fucking Lui, a sub 5k shitter, pulling a complete upset and ending with the highest HoloX concert.
Thank God for Kaelahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_YsKQs4FrAHere is for you guys that need someone streaming in English right now but, at the same time, a cute girl and on Hololive.
>>39029450That's where you're wrong, bucko! Kronii flat re-design on the way not by Wada because she's too based to give in
>>39029622>Zuttomayo region locking their songs for six months is apparently nothing new w-why?
>>39029622Really sounds like an artist with a huge US fanbase. No I haven't forgotten that hilarious argument with the /vsinger/ guy
>>39029454Also when you are getting graphs like this the entire thing is meaningless. This is the third NijiEN stream in the last week we have seen with absolutely no waiting room cull. The two by Hex and now this. I've never seen such bullshit.
>>39029377>he's not moomin'you still have much to learn, young child
>>39029097That was her sister though. When did it turn into that Mori was who she invited them?
>>39029557For some reason it's blocked in US and Canada.
>>39029481Mumei already said if she's not streaming karaoke she'll be streaming something else so overlap will happen either way.
>>39029646waiting room for mayo dog
>>39029372Honestly, if HoloEN goes under or slowly dies I'll probably just stop watching streamers. I never watched them beforehand except for occasional AOE2 tournaments and "cute girl talking gibberish" isn't enough of a pull to watch JP when I can't understand them. HoloEN just felt different than everyone else in the EN streaming scene. Maybe I just don't know where to look for something similar.
>>39029635I agree with you in general terms but trying to make the best out of a bad situation while, at the same time, swearing off any chance of it repeating are two things that are consistent with each other
>>39029450>
>>39029646Sucks that the VOD has to be edited. Hopefully it's not down for long.
>>39029688Actually, that's one funny thing: by virtue of filling gaps in the schedule left by absenteeist or unavailable girls, both (and Fauna) ended up inclining above what they would normally be capable
>>39029450Ina graduation announcement seems like a very real possibility
>>39029557>My country is the fucking United States.HAHAHAHAHAHASorry I just want to laugh at this.
>>39029622Song is ogey I guess, I got bored halfway through and turned it off.
>>39029739What happened? Did she have a menhera moment like that PC girlw ho broke down during Faith?
>>39029739I missed the start, she bungled up and showed her IP?She has enough VODs tho, one missing VOD wouldn't break her legs
>>39029450ina...
>>39029778Shit taste
>>39028310Ina has completely checked out.
>>39029622>Feature Mori>HoloEN>Majority of fans are US and Canada>Block song in US and CanadaZutomayo is a fucking retard
>>39029821If you say so. Just sounded like extremely generic JP pop rock with a big Mori rap segment in the middle
>>39029692>I never watched them beforehand except for occasional AOE2 tournamentsNot really related, but Kiara noticed that her AoE 2 stream had supers from non-regulars.Microsoft forcing a week's notice might be annoying, but I think Holos are squandering those perms pretty badly. How hard is it to plan a stream 8 days in advance when this is their job?
>>39029812She has already graduated in my eyes, if she returns i will celebrate but otherwise i cannot really summon the capacity to really care anymore
>>39028310Ina isn't coming back. Make peace with that now so the announcement doesn't hit as hard.
>>39029832It is literally ALL their songs so chances are it's UMG and not their decision
When was the last time HoloEN got 20k viewers on a game stream?
/ggg/ is melting down
>>39029861she will back with new VA
>>39029638Lui is less of a shitter than Irys
>>39029861I lost that capacity when she went on a break because she was stressed and came back even more stressed.
so is holoen largely burnt out? In contrast fauna really upped her streaming hours last few months
>>39029185AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>39029861>>39029880Who had a longer break than Ina right now? Miko was 90 days or something, is that right?
>>39029532How many numbers would even get this hypotetical scenario?
>>39029635>collab where everyone in the branch is invited as sign of unity>collab where only 2 were supposed to meet
>>39029934Fauna is in breakFor 2 weeks
>>39029185t.
>>39029893Probably Gura in October? I don't think any other vtuber in the EN sphere can get 20k on a normal gaming stream.
Fungus getting gold means this hobby is dead. It was an honor shit posting with you but I'm out. The fact that somebody as shitty as Fungus has fans is just something I can't deal with. This hobby has passed me by.
>be Cover>try to recruit for the third EN branch>applications are either twitch whores, menheras, easily doxxable sluts with boyfriends, white man hating SJWs, custom pronouns, queen of spades, queer nonsense>ENfags: COVER RELEASE EN3 NOW OR ELSESeriously, stop begging. It's better to not get anything at all. Hololive is not like Nijisanji. Hololive aims to create characters and support them each one equally with the sponsorships, not streamers with anime avatars that can do whatever they want
>>39029973>2 weeksOne.
>>39029893Gura: Outlast 2 months agoNot Gura: Probably Kronii's Minecraft 10 months ago
>>39029982Fuck off
>>39029940Yeah but Miko was still active during her break. Ina has been totallt silent.
>>39029934>streamed like 2 hours a day, 5 days per week max>burnt outFuck this shit. Gen2 JP was burnt out after 4 years of daily streaming more than that, while Gen3 is doing fine even though they debut way earlier than Myth. 2 years of minimal activities and "burnt out"? Don't give me this crap.
>>39029563That's only Mori x Gura tho, unless Mori, Kiara and Ame went full retard for the whole duration I doubt it would go that badUnless Gura learned that others don't care about idol stuffs to the point they have boyfriends or some shit, I could see her cutting contact with all of them afterwards
>>39029980See you tomorrow
>>39029940Miko had a legit medical issue but she also didn't completely shut herself off from Hololive when she was gone. Whatever is going on with Ina is more complicated than simply being unhealthy.
>>39029980Dramafags are not fans
>>39029982Try to find the good twitch whores. Some of them would be pretty good.
>>39029851RTS is probably a hard filter for most of these girls, I'm surprised Kiara of all people even tried AOE. Also, a lot of them can't even consistently make weekly schedules and download their games an hour before their stream starts, preparing 8 days in advance would probably make their heads explode.
>>39029980See you next thread
>>39029635Yeah because they totally can't act nice with their coworkers for a couple extra days. Get real dude these girls didn't even know each other 3 years ago and you think they have some unbreakable bond? Setting off fireworks totally means they're best friends and 7 months of near 0 interaction afterwards means nothing. Sure.
>>390299012020 gura will never come back...
>>39029982Xsoleil girls seems to be good fits.
>>39029282they keep getting more popular but a lot of holos stoppped streaming regularly plus youtube culling their numbers harder and harder each year might give you that impression.
>>39029692As an EU, before EN i watched Watame and Luna.Now i still watch Watame and Luna.EN was just another batch to add to my clip catchup hour. Ina was nice for a while at least.
>>39029967over 20k. Chumcucks would eat it up and start harassing fauna so she also collabs with males. They'd be even worse than cuckbeats and kronies.
>>39029791Kaela and menhera? Have you ever watched her? She just showed her old nickname by virtue of Nintendo magic, nothing bad
>>39029635gura_collab_chart.png
https://kworb.net/aww/>#4 - Mori SinderellaIt will probably be her peak since day 1 is usually the best performance.Losing to Kpop, Buble during Christmas time, and ABBA greatest hits isn't that bad tho.
>>39029635Reminder from the Myth 2nd anni that Gura's favorite moment in all of Hololive was not the off collabs but a Council collab kek
>>39029934As a Sapling I'm glad she's gotten comfortable and better at streaming long hours. I still remember the day she said she didn't have the social battery to keep up streaming for long hours but after a few endurance streams she's definitely been getting more and more used to it, which is great as a fan.
>>39028957There was fanart of Fauna paizuri yesterday that stayed up for like 7 hours
>>39030054>ESL girls who can barely speak english>A yab machine that has already had multiple streams set to privateYeah, nah
>>39030033Why compromise? They don't want to settle for less and get a Sana
>>39030054The poster you're replying to will complain because they fit in his easily doxxable category
>>39030121Way more interesting than green whore and whoremei.
>>39029982I seriously doubt they're seeking new hires, we'd heard something. And "there's no more EN talent" is cope.>>39030054>nijinog>low standardseverytime
>>39029982This whole thread would have watched the Zoomer baba from Xsoleil if she was in HoloEN.There's good people out there that can shine with a big spotlight like the Holo brand.
>>39030003Both Mumei and Kronii got over 20k on Holocure back in July, so it was more recent than that for non-Gura.
>>39030054You have really low standards
>>39026820I remember seeing this exact post back in September. I stopped hoping. Only grim.
Reminder that starting out as Twitch streamer taints you at the roots, just look at the Ame, she's about as good as they can get if you want a girl
>>39030043>HoloEN Christmas collabI laughed just to think about the idea of them having such thing planned this year. Everyone fucked off and leave their fans high and dry during this holiday season.
>>39030054I'd watch the lolibaba if she was in hololive. Not being able to play genshin is a good thing.
>>39030173Eh I think they're better than Sana at least.Sana was unwatchable and ruined songs and collabs.
>>39030137I mean, I hope they screen the twitch whores isntead of just outright refusing them. As long as they don't show obvious signs like the ellyvtuber chick, it's probably okay to consider them.
>>39030152>And "there's no more EN talent" is cope.Okay big boy, name 5 girls for your custom EN3 branch
>>39026820boooo fake poster
>>39030155If she was in HoloEN she would have gotten the doxspam treatment just like some of the council girls
>>39030111>ABBASwedes know pop
>>39030152>>39030173Quality control was thrown out of window the moment they hired council.
>>39030043How do we revive their Minecraft addiction, I think those were the golden days
>>39030206They do screen them and and end up realizing that they are either talentless or yabe machines or both
>>39030208you made the first claim. Prove there's no more worthwhile talent in the EN market
>>39029883I mean what even is the point of region-locking a song on one of the biggest online platforms in the world? Do they have an exclusive deal with Spotify or something?
>>39030155>This whole thread would have watched the Zoomer baba from Xsoleil if she was in HoloEN.If she got another model, probably. Her model is for a brat voice, not the towako she is.
>>39029663anothe rproof of nijinigger trannies at youtube manually removing culls from their fav chubas
>>39030208Oceane, Pikamee, Saruei, Bae and Fauna's bff
>>39030243So you think council is low quality and to fix that you want a worse council? Amazing logic as usual
>>39030246EN3
>>39030260That's also an issue, sadly. Many good twitch indies already feel good where they are.
>>39030155>gachashit addict>tectone orbiterno I fucking wouldn't
>>39030208Stop looking at twitch streamers and dogshit indie vtubers as the only potential talent pool, for one thingI don't want any currently active indie vtuber, not a single one. How about a talented but unknown guitarist? A pianist who can play Chopin blindfolded but didn't quite make the cut as a concert performer? A ballet artist who got cut from their troupe because they turned 21 and are now an ancient hag?Of course, getting talents like that would require actual work to scout them instead of just waiting around for resumes to come in from vtweeters
>>39029982So you think it's impossible to find more people like Fauna, Mumei or Bae?
>>39030243Don't make me defend council. Council are fine.
>>39029980>fans lmao
>>39030202Sana was the best one there desu, her potential for idol journey was beyond blatant, if she overcame the shitty beginnings and model she could easily become one of EN flagships, maybe not in numbers but in being strong point of unity
>>39030264>you made the first claim. Prove there's no more worthwhile talent in the EN market>prove a negativeLiteral braindead
>>39030312>Stop looking at twitch streamers and dogshit indie vtubers as the only potential talent pool, for one thingLook at the 2 non-vtuber artists hires. One is dead and another is double dead.
>>39030111so she's way ahead of Aimer's recent album. That kind of puts it into perspective.
>>39030312Shelling out cash for scouting is the first step to damnation, anon.
>>39030173Nah he's right. Hololive fans would be cumming nonstop over Meloco's ESL moans if she were in Hololive
>>39030155What would she even do in Holo? Since Genshin out of question.
>>39030312Having musical skills does not translate to being a good streamer. Having talents outside of vtubing means jack shit. Look at Sana and Ina.
>>39029893>When was the last time HoloEN got 20k viewers on a game stream?Here are all of the 20k+ streams by either EN branch in the month of December>date :: peak :: title :: nameEn :: video_id>2022-12-15 :: 30227 :: Let's Talk Before the Zatsu :: Fulgur Ovid :: agqlYyASK-g>2022-12-14 :: 21166 :: The Luxiem Alternate Universes :: Mysta Rias :: r0Ul6iEzpH8>2022-12-11 :: 42767 :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】 Casual Fauna is here!! Come see my new clothes! :: Ceres Fauna :: -9qaEobN5-8>2022-12-11 :: 30125 :: :: Mysta Rias :: ARLMxDKMTvM>2022-12-10 :: 38576 :: Into the sunset with #XSOLEIL NIJISANJI EN VTuber Debut Program hosted by Aia & Kyo :: NIJISANJI English Official :: 9PG8FLA_TXE>2022-12-10 :: 50004 :: 【DEBUT】HOLY MOLY【NIJISANJI ENZaion LanZa】 :: Zaion LanZa :: VmQyEMpXB2I>2022-12-10 :: 58201 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】 Want to know your future? 【NIJISANJI EN | Ver Vermillion】 :: Ver Vermillion :: 3DpVWbGNMFk>2022-12-10 :: 56500 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】I CAN HEAR U CALLING ME【NIJISANJI EN | Meloco Kyoran】 :: Meloco Kyoran :: fpCqw3C8KSg>2022-12-10 :: 54891 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】your gyaru is here!!【NIJISANJI EN | Kotoka Torahime | XSOLEIL】 :: Kotoka Torahime :: xHJ75r16XNE>2022-12-10 :: 54995 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】DROPPING IT DOWN!【NIJISANJI EN | Doppio Dropscythe】 :: Doppio Dropscythe :: UmASg4svodc>2022-12-10 :: 59875 :: 【DEBUT STREAM】i can fix you【NIJISANJI EN | Hex Haywire】 :: Hex Haywire :: XVfTlRUIyjg>2022-12-05 :: 25301 :: Mysta returns to streaming after 30 days of no streams :: Mysta Rias :: ov_oeUWOAqA>2022-12-02 :: 29931 :: singing fish gawr gura LIVE :: Gawr Gura :: _4LpS0sfpvQNone of those were gaming streams. And here are all of the gaming streams from either branch over 20k since iLUNA and Tempus debuted>date :: peak :: title :: nameEn :: video_id>2022-10-29 :: 20144 :: 【THE OUTLAST TRIALS】Beta Shark :: Gawr Gura :: cP0nbodPoME>2022-10-18 :: 23246 :: 【LITTLE NIGHTMARES】aa :: Gawr Gura :: 1SD_XUXQac4>2022-10-15 :: 24851 :: 【しょぼんのるきみん!】shark rage ! :: Gawr Gura :: zP7DU-GLnLw>2022-09-25 :: 27948 :: 【PICO PARK】EN vs Puzzle Platforming :: Watson Amelia :: NCxD1xB4tls>2022-09-10 :: 22264 :: 【HoloCure】New members! electric abooaloog :: Gawr Gura :: zDICSOdPa6Q>2022-09-07 :: 21590 :: 【HOLOCURE】NEW UPDATE EARLY ACCESS !!! #kfp #キアライブ :: Takanashi Kiara :: FVZPk21Sl5o>2022-08-29 :: 21745 :: 【MINECRAFT】SUMMER FESTIVAL #ホロ鯖夏祭り :: Gawr Gura :: okCqDd122ak>2022-08-28 :: 23267 :: 【RUST】bigfish :: Gawr Gura :: dmuGXzYXomo>2022-08-22 :: 20500 :: 【RUST】BIGFISH?? :: Gawr Gura :: 3D96coBQZAo>2022-08-17 :: 21158 :: 【RUST】HoloRust SEASON 2 :: Gawr Gura :: bZmMvX-KZUQ>2022-08-12 :: 23030 :: 【RUST】HoloRust SEASON 2 :: Gawr Gura :: ScZy5gEw374>2022-08-11 :: 22754 :: 【THE MORTUARY ASSISTANT】Shark help! :: Gawr Gura :: _aeIw9DJnBw>2022-07-31 :: 28878 :: 【MINECRAFT】h-hewwo...quartz... :: Gawr Gura :: pPHmidTM_sE>2022-07-27 :: 23816 :: 【RUST】release the shark :: Gawr Gura :: H9Ycp5JRR88>2022-07-25 :: 27856 :: 【MINECRAFT】ID server ! :: Gawr Gura :: 6puvpOmoqZYIt's all Gura, plus one Ame (the "compulsory" Pico Park collab) and one Kiara (the "advance preview" Holocure one)
>>39030312That's exactly what they said when they hired Myth, Irys and Council.Did it go well?Partly...some content was good, but very few of them are streamers, or could even entertain a livestream audience at the start.
>>39030246>You are now remembering this time last year when most of HoloEN decided to spontaneously help Sana build her gingerbread house.Fuck, take me back.
>>39030351Because both had massively successful careers to fall back on.If you'll notice, my examples are all failures who have really marketable talents but ZERO prospects. They'd jump at the chance to make big bucks, put out music that actually gets heard, dance on stage, etc. etc. etc.
>>39030276THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
>>39030333>Sana was the best one there desuopinion discarded
>>39030373>MelocororuGive me the gyaru and keep your purple bitch in the trash where she belongs.
>>39030312>How about a talented but unknown guitarist? A pianist who can play Chopin blindfolded but didn't quite make the cut as a concert performer? A ballet artist who got cut from their troupe because they turned 21 and are now an ancient hag?What the fuck are you recruiting for, an orchestra? They are fucking live streamers that need to talk all the time to entertain the audience. Do you just want them to play the guitar or the piano and only stop to say "thanks for the superchat" every minute?
>>39030410So you want another Mori?
>>39030373We have IRyS who is superior in every way anyway.
>>39030312>guitarist>pianistwhat for? their job will be to play nintendo and capcom games
>>39030243Kronii was a decent bet and probably would have turned out ok if it wasn't for Mori. Bae and Mumei wouldn't have been out of place in Myth, they have problems but they're salvageable. It's impossible to know what would have happened to Sana if she had had a normal career, but I get the criticism if the nepotism claims are true. Fauna seems like a ticking bomb but she has managed really well. It seems the problem was omegatroon, not the talent.@39030336oh the irony
>>39030208The two GGN girlsMioriUtano PandoraIekushi Chapipi
>>39030399It's truly grimnation invitation!
>>39030279>Sareui, a menhera who sells animated porn of her model>Shondo, an actual diagnosed menheraYeah, that'll work really well.
>>39030398What do you mean look at Ina?
>>39030020>spoilerIn that case, sametori doko?
>>39030376Improve. Go on the journey of an idol. Become Miko
>>39030488>Kronii was a decent bet and probably would have turned out ok if it wasn't for Moriqrd?
>>39030463You can teach someone interesting to stream, but you can't teach a milquetoast generic asian or white woman who knows nothing except being a 2view and posting ass pics on Twitter how to be interesting
This is a verified Luknight
>>39030373I already don't watch Kiara and Bae for being ESL. I'm here to watch English streamers.
>>39030522Kiara went on one of her tirades about how they aren't idols and being idol is actually a terrible job
>>39030488>Fauna seems like a ticking bombWhat?
>>39030526>You can teach someone interesting to streamlol noHaving an interesting life is different from being interesting to retards in the internet.
>>39030399I don't get why sisters always mention gaming streams since that's always been nijien's worst category
>>39030507at least they'd be made in-house, that's the closest you'll get to canon lewds right?
>>39030264>Prove there's no more worthwhile talent in the EN marketNone of the new debuting EN vtubers are worth a damnNijisanji EN resorting to nipsHololive not debuting a new gen since well over a yearYour turn retard
>>39030526No you can't. Look at Miryu from Kawaii. She has good potential as a musician and was second most subbed gen3 but now she is dead last as she is bad at everything else.
>>39030581Bae isn't ESL
>>39030479You do know that there's plenty of chuubas whose main content is singing while playing a piano that do pretty well right?
don't worry, they will save holoen.
>>39030276>we have been playing a game where a random tranny at youtube can be the referee and ostensibly favour one team over the otherIt's grim bros!
>>39030665Yeah the ones that don't have to care about copyright
>>39030507>a menhera>a menheraWait, I thought this is the only requirement to go into hololive?
>>39030471Yeah, of course, but one with fewer fatal personality defects. Hopefully.
>>39030667the korone and okayu of en...
>>39030648Australians don't speak real English.
>>39030667I want to believe.
>>39030279>another Oceane shillIDs go to the ID branch. stop trying to always put her into EN
>>39030693You do know that they mostly play Japanese songs that holos have perms for right...?
>>39030507Yeah if people think EN unity is bad now imagine throwing a bomb like Saruei into the mix LMAO
>>39030705Neither does Americans.
>>39030279why Pikamee? she's fine where she is, she has a lot of friends
>>39030729Forgive him, NTR Production needs the publicity.
>>39030488>Fauna seems like a ticking bombFauna is probably the most psychologically healthy and stable Holo in the entire company
>>39030373If I wanted to watch a Japanese woman speaking bad English I would watch JPs instead
>>39030680Exactly. And people wonder why the girls dont have motivation to stream. They know it too.
>>39030507>Suddenly menheras are not allowed into menheralive
>>39030471Mori is unironically a highly successful hire. She also has massive issues but she's responsible for a great deal of HoloEN's initial success.
canceliing friday asakoyos and replacing them with mario kart might have been the stupidest decision koyori has done in her entire career
>>39030743That's not very popular on the EN side
>>39030488>Fauna seems like a ticking bomb but she has managed really well. IFucking how. She's the only one who actually takes breaks in order to decompress and doesn't leave it to the last minute before she explodes like everyone else does. It took Kiara over a fucking year to finally do this.
JFC Doppio's numbers this dude might legitimately be another 3 view in the making
>>39030667These girls are becoming the new Rye of this thread. I wouldn't mind them personally, but prepare for disappointment.
>>39030818Yeah, but she's also responsible for the later decline.
>>39030513He forgot Ina doesn't stream anymore
>>39030373if she was in EN0 maybe
>>39030780I want to disagree with you but I realize now just how low of a bar that is for EN
>>39030524Mori might have inspired, and almost definitely encouraged, Kronii's "I'm here to make FRIENDS and own the haters/incels, not to entertain you losers" attitude.But also that's normal Canadian Asian shit, so who knows.
>>39030832Only chuuba that even plays piano in the west is Athena and it was some of her more popular content when I was following her
>>39030899I found her male collabs very entertaining and was happy she was having a good time
>>39030817Those two make Kronii look stable, they're on another level.
>>39030854Dropview...
>>39030513Badly worded. I meant in the sense that Sana rarely used her drawing talent for stream content and even Ina phased out her drawing content too.
>>39030944Yeah I bet you did. Probably made you feel funny, huh?
>>39030818And now she's begging her fans to listen to her new album
>>39030399For sake of completeness, here are all of the gaming streams of both JP branches>IN THE PAST SIX DAYS ALONE>date :: peak :: title :: nameEn :: video_id>2022-12-15 :: 24446 :: 【ポケモンSV】チャンピオンの資格とりに行きます。 :: Hoshimachi Suisei :: vK_z76d33y0>2022-12-14 :: 27824 :: 【マリカ8DX】ホロメンでチーム対抗勝負!!!!!!!!ぺこ! :: Usada Pekora :: giYJ3GFD-FI>2022-12-14 :: 31764 :: 【 マリオカート8 】コース覚え :: Kuzuha :: 2kJVlHEtXlA>2022-12-14 :: 53514 :: 【 ポケモンSV 】12日目 信じるものはなんとやらっていうから・・にぇ!~ ホゲータ色違いが欲しい旅 ~ :: Sakura Miko :: Y_Y0KYXME2U>2022-12-14 :: 21805 :: 【#ゆるホロチームカート 】コース増えすぎてませんか⁉ :: Hoshimachi Suisei :: QXcjYRFfT2M>2022-12-14 :: 38004 :: 【 マリカ8DX 】#ゆるホロチームカート で爆走すっぞ!!!!!!!にぇ!!!!! :: Sakura Miko :: NTtsbEiuZ50>2022-12-13 :: 22769 :: 【FGO】はじめての Fate/Grand Order !! 絶対魔獣戦線バビロニアやる!!第十三節~ぺこ! :: Usada Pekora :: baPBKvB3wBg>2022-12-13 :: 29587 :: 【#3】ずっとやりたかったポケモンやるしゅばああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ!!!!!/Pokémon Scarlet :: Oozora Subaru :: OjVYtizH0ks>2022-12-12 :: 55852 :: 【 Party Panic 】ポルみこフブすいさんでヤバイパーティーするゾ! :: Sakura Miko :: ilRJW3fMpA4>2022-12-11 :: 22504 :: 【マリオカート8DX】いや予選今日や内科医 :: Ibrahim :: 1F9T4YckHkw>2022-12-11 :: 46444 :: 【ポケモンSV】エンディングまで!エリアゼロにはなにが待っているぺこなんだ!!!in人生縛りぺこ! :: Usada Pekora :: bakpPMmFAc4>2022-12-11 :: 31209 :: 【#マリカにじさんじ杯】Dリーグ せめ5せめ5せめ5せめ5 :: Lauren Iroas :: sWZdONZ_dvM>2022-12-11 :: 54970 :: 【 ポケモンSV 】11日目 お?くるか!来る気がする!くるにぇ!~ ホゲータ色違いが欲しい旅 ~ :: Sakura Miko :: TnLDDfe1WJU>2022-12-11 :: 64383 :: 【マリカにじさんじ杯】Fリーグ 剣持視点 :: Kenmochi Toya :: V2yHXFDliuA>2022-12-11 :: 27021 :: マリオカート8 | いよいよ予選・・!頑張るぞ・・・・・ :: Kanae :: hoRTU8QR9xE>2022-12-11 :: 27726 :: 【 マリオカート8 】マリカ視聴者参加型 :: Kuzuha :: vsFuZhaJoQ0>2022-12-11 :: 22750 :: 【#マリカにじさんじ杯】 第5回マリオカートにじさんじ杯 予選Eリーグ :: Lize Helesta :: fCUX6Z-s4cs>2022-12-11 :: 177944 :: 【マリオカート8DX】第5回マリオカートにじさんじ杯 予選 :: Nijisanji :: 67vgvGmuN1o>2022-12-11 :: 21467 :: 【#マリカにじさんじ杯】おいおいおい今回ヤバいぞおいおいおいおいおいおいおいおい :: Tsukino Mito :: lIeBoe19hw0>2022-12-11 :: 24792 :: 【マリカ8DX】マリカ杯予選 :: Shellin Burgundy :: LixLb_0gCZ4>2022-12-11 :: 23611 :: 【マリオカート8DX】第5回 #マリカにじさんじ杯 Bリーグ予選 :: Ars Almal :: TrEAGybVYHs>2022-12-11 :: 20892 :: 【#3】金コイキングだけで進むパルデア地方:フリッジジム/ライム戦 :: Shirakami Fubuki :: 2dNu_xmr0Zg>2022-12-11 :: 21125 :: 【A Dance of Fire and Ice】たんたんたんたんたんたんたんたんたんたんたんたん :: Nakiri Ayame :: YilIMtJ_KY0>2022-12-11 :: 39923 :: 【#最終回】JUDGE EYES:死神の遺言 Remasteredするしゅばあああああああああああああああああ!!!!!! :: Oozora Subaru :: 6JPCqDuIPPE>2022-12-11 :: 23590 :: 【マリオカート8DX】第5回!爆走・ Cリーグ :: Higuchi Kaede :: 6jM_8rn4SbA>2022-12-10 :: 21443 :: 【#荒野にじさんじコラボ】己を引け!! :: Kuzuha :: onBcN1iWEPM>2022-12-10 :: 33937 :: 【最終回ではない】四天王戦!絶対に負けられない戦い!!!in人生縛りぺこ! :: Usada Pekora :: Y-uC5h9NFVA>2022-12-10 :: 20368 :: 【クリア後の世界】ポケットモンスター スカーレットやる…! :: Inugami Korone :: JF38vwosJO4>2022-12-10 :: 48669 :: 【 ポケモンSV 】10日目 ついにきっと今夜・・くるにぇ・・・!?~ ホゲータ色違いが欲しい旅 ~ :: Sakura Miko :: 8KwmjFNxT7k>2022-12-10 :: 25106 :: 【マリオカート8DX】剣持刀也vsザコ :: Kenmochi Toya :: VfzKmM1wYH0>2022-12-09 :: 21256 :: 【視聴者参加】8 位 以 下 で 増 殖 マ リ オ カ ー ト / Mario Kart with more Subaru in 8th place and below. :: Oozora Subaru :: y4Kge5TGLyA>2022-12-09 :: 37037 :: 【オフコラボ】1-2-Switchで遊ぶぞ~!! :: Yukihana Lamy :: mboCpGRnQtkI actually had to cut the seventh day because the post limit wouldn't allow me to post it
For those who don't want to watch Mario Kart, my autistic European fairy is about to do some very SOULFUL singing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMK-N3AJ8hM
>>39030944That's not the point, woman (male).
>>39030780The only thing stable about Fauna is she completely cut off all access to her private life unlike the rest of these dumb broads. She could be killing puppies off stream to destress and we'd have no idea.
>>39030899>almost definitely encouraged, Kronii's "I'm here to make FRIENDS and own the haters/incels, not to entertain you losers" attitudeI wonder if that was on purpose because she thought Kronii would get big and steal her "cool beauty" larp.
>>39030854Surprised that a Bakugo ripoff is not at the top with Vox 2
How do we feel about Gawr Gura(™) mandated shill tweet?
>>39030826Maybe it will pay out with her winning the MK tournament. Think about it
>>39031014People fucking bitch about Fauna's sibilance but this bitch fucking whistles obnoxiously with each S.
>>39030893I sometimes imagine them pulling an experiment and get the most stacy, outgoing applicant (not the stereotypical twitch whore) and see how she compares to the menhera side of the branch. Someone like (>>39030206)'s pic.
>>39030631>None of the new debuting EN vtubers are worth a damndon't have to take your word for it>Nijisanji EN resorting to nipsnijisanji released plenty of shit between the debuts of Myth and Council, it's literally their business model. That didn't stop cover from finding good talent.>Hololive not debuting a new gen since well over a yearcircular reasoningyour argument seems to be "cover would have found talent if there was some, so there must be no talent".>>39030780>>39030618>>39030841enjoy it when it last, I know I will. She's either a) not gonna be able to keep her mouth shut about certain issues or b) create such a toxic fandom she'll end up hating her own fans. I know she's #'s girlfriend but you better wise up, we're supposed to be smarter than that.
>>39031076If you've been wondering why no actual chumbies are taking that bait you've been spamming all morning, it's because we already knew about her figure collection and upcoming orders for months
>>39031019>she completely cut off all access to her private lifeAnd her audience couldn't want anything better. That's the closest to be the perfect vtuber
>>39030111She is doing alright in US and JP.
>>39031090no it won't, she's retarded and it takes her months to barely improve, 1 hour a week won't help for shit, and she replaced a tourist magnet that gets guaranteed 10ks every week for a honestly fucking garbage stream that struggles to break 5kit's fucking moronic and infuriating
>>39031129>She's either a) not gonna be able to keep her mouth shut about certain issues or b) create such a toxic fandom she'll end up hating her own fans.Meds.Jesus christ.
EN3 is delayed because Hololive already found everybody in the English-speaking world wanting. Instead they hired Japanese talents and sent them on a language immersion course in an English-speaking country. Debuts will happen once they all pass.
>>39031019Perfect, i fucking wish the rest did that.
>>39031126Yes she's discount Fauna
>>39030090Would that be the one that ignores every Rust interaction despite it basically being the only game she touched for like a month, the Pico Park and Among Us collabs and the fact Guras doing a FIFO miners schedule of 1 week on 2 weeks off?
>>39030899>Kronii members stream>"Yeah you know i don't really get why you all are so upset but I'll try to be understanding. I won't have any collabs with Tempus on my channel and I won't tweet at them either">Meets up with Mori>pic relGee it truly is a mystery what happened
>>39031129schizochama...>>39031130>get the most stacy, outgoing applicant (not the stereotypical twitch whore)So, just a regular whore.>Someone like (>>39030206)'s picIsn't that just a common twitch whore?
>>39031008They made EN branch looks like a joke
>>39031060Should have done a rape ASMR in his first week.
>>39031171if her "dogs and diamonds" bit didn't tip you off, I don't know what will. There was no reaction, so she'll get bolder next time. Wasn't her first off hand comment like that either.
>>39031129>certain issuesI don't even know what you're talking about. Something work related? Tempus? Some sort of SJW fantasy strawman?In any case, I don't know why you'd think Fauna would be unable to avoid any of those landmines when she has perfectly dodged all of them so far
>>39030246It isn’t just EN Minecraft is dead all round. Kaela had to reinstall it for fucks sake.
>>39030526And what do you teach them? They can't rely on react content like twitch streamers, they need to be able to keep thousands of male weebs hooked with just their talkingWhat do you want them to talk about? Things that most women like? The male audience doesn't give a crap about that, look at ScarleAnime? Do you want to listen to a woman talk about Yuri on Ice all day?
>>39031205It's better than still doing collabs on other channels and always having to second guess your actions just to appease a few schizos
>>39030376FGO
>>39030899didn't in that review Mori said something about teaching?
>>39029925This is just factually untrue.
>>39031129If you are going to pretend to have a behind the scenes scoop on Fauna at least post the complete rrat so we can get the shitposting going instead of acting like a vague posting faggot.
>>39030488>Kronie once again coping that their oshi is a lazy whore by blaming everyone else
>>39031382Doxxfags would be more effective if they weren't also attentionwhores.
>>39030246The problem here is they'd rather get shit numbers than be forced to play funy block game everyday
>>39031289Yeah, all of the collabs with Tempus Kronii has been doing lately have been really good.
Why hasn't Miori applied to holoEN or nijiEN?
>>39031289She ended up left with nothing.
>>39031129>your argument seems to be "cover would have found talent if there was some, so there must be no talent".Yes, and you failed multiple of times to provide proof that there's good talent waiting to be picked up by hololive while rejecting offers from the dozens of EN vtubing agencies>fauna schizoOf fucking course, my last (You)
>>39031289Instead she did like two extra collabs and now has the lowest CCV of council for December
>>39031008Aqua would have added at least 5 or 6 to that list back in the day...
>>39031205interesting how she dropped them with radio silence until now
>>39030899So literally Source:I made it up?
>>39031431>with nothingnot at all
>>39031256>if her "dogs and diamonds" bit didn't tip you off, I don't know what willI don't get it
>>39030899>>39031205One rotten apple spoils the barrel
>>39031426Maybe she did. It's not like EN3 happened.
>>39031153Hololive should put out a Christmas album
>>39031472She could have the highest CCV if she wanted. She doesn't care
>>39031014I tried giving her a chance but she's incompetent so thanks for shilling garbage.
>>39031129>She's either a) not gonna be able to keep her mouth shut about certain issues or b) create such a toxic fandom she'll end up hating her own fansAbsolute retard.
>>39031129>enjoy it when it last, I know I will. She's either a) not gonna be able to keep her mouth shut about certain issuesI'm not really sure what you're getting at here. Do you think you could post a catbox link or something to maybe give me an idea.
>>39031426She's too busy to go full time since her parents want her to go to med school iirc
>>39031129Thanks for completely ruining the EN3 argument with your retarded schizoshit
>>39031530Zoomers and late millennial men (Hololive's audience) aren't buying those music albums. It's everybody's moms and grandmas to play them at the house when the family gets together. Still, I'd give such an album a listen I suppose
>>39031129>we're supposed to be smarter than thatAre we really?
Why did we suddenly become /cwg/
>>39031479I wonder whats up with that, she used to be crazy about Vesper but now she doesn't even mention or like/tweet his stuff anymore.
>>39031129>All these people defending FaunaCan't you retarded Saplings just make your general or shit up the catalog
>>39031616At this point who is even buying Michael Bubblegum albums? I would have thought anyone interested would own it at this point.
>>39025517Recent clip numbers>>39004371>>39004402>>39004477>>39004501>>39004541
>>39031671The entire branch dropped them like a rockProbably because it's all fun and games until your CCV takes a 40% hit and your music is getting 1/4th of its usual views
>>39031616>aren't buying those music albumsDYRBIBut yeah, they'd have to find a balance between the zoomers and the moms and grandmas if they wanted to put out a christmas album.
EN has always been shit tier. Who cares if Gura doesn't stream, her streams have always been terrible anyway.
>>39031658When aren't we?
This is one of the most schizo thread I've seen in a while, the only one that topped this was the thread where that "Jim Carrey is a serial killer" schizo was in.
>>39031616You're crazy if you don't think a Gura christmas album wouldn't sellAlso zoom zooms and late millennials still like christmas stuff
>>39031488She's at the lowest point of her career and she's also not having fun in collabs. She traded whatever she had before for less than she had
>>39031426i think she would apply for vshojo, after all the "big" indies would not like to lose their fans
>>39031757Yeah, this. I've been watching Finana lately and she entertains me more than Gura ever did. I was just too blind to not see it.
>>39031761>"Jim Carrey is a serial killer" schizoAnd who do you think this schizo is? Just look at how he writes.
>>39031544There's a reason I wrote SOULFUL in all caps.
>>39031830t. Finana
>>39025636>2022 SILVERS>PER COMPANY228x: Hololive105x: Nijisanji6x: VSPO5x: Indie4x: Neo Porte1x: PRISM Project>PER STREAMER53x: Pekora34x: Miko28x: Kuzuha22x: Marine15x: Subaru14x: Suisei11x: Gura, Salome10x: Nijisanji8x: Hololive7x: Fubuki, Toya6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa, Korone4x: Koyori, Lize3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui
>>39031847No like bitch didn't even sing before the stream went down incompetent
>>39031783>vshojo>getting anyone that isn't a orbiter or established with big /#/ already
https://youtu.be/xJwk5I8CjIsEntertainment company
>>39031766Of course it would sell, Gura anything would sell. I'd buy a digital and physical copy myself. I'm just saying, do we really think 18-35 year old men are buying Michael Bubble christmas albums? For one thing, if you need christmas bgm for a get-together, just search "Christmas playlist" on spotify like a normal person
>>39031773>not having fun in collabsSays who? If you were a kronie you'd know she's doing very well lately. The lowest point of her career is a meme. She would only have to decide to finish Resident Evil 8 to instantly get in the top 3
>>39031773This is some massive cope. At least pretend to watch streams.Kronii has deteriorated as a streamer, but mentally she has never been better.
>>39031700I don't blame them, she's great manipulating people. Turns from trying really hard to sond smart to her bimbo facade on a dime. I'll enjoy while it last, but her spell is slowly fading (on me).>>39031628you jest but # is an oasis in the septic tank that is /vt/
>>39031506I have no idea what he's talking aboutFauna did some bit the other day about how she doesn't like the phrases Dogs are man's best friends but diamond's are a girl's best friend because she doesn't like diamondsI guess he's going for a SJW angle but that's pretty retarded since Fauna wasn't even sure what Silicone Valley was called the other day so she's clearly not very in tune
>>39031839He should write a thriller novel. That way at least he can earn money from his mental malfunction.
>>39031917Anon, when was her last collab with Tempus?
>>39031726The only one who got hit hard was Mori iirc. Kronii was still pulling some numbers if she wasn't playing indie shit iirc. Then again this was around the time she made subway her whole personality which boosted her numbers.
>>39031869Oh right. Forgot she remade the stream.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0RlolSRHkM
>>39031928>you jest but # is an oasis in the septic tank that is /vt/this but outside SEA hours
>>39031928>you jest but # is an oasis in the septic tank that is /vt/You are certainly not helping with that.
>>39031924See >>39031964The whole point is that she traded whatever she had before for >>39031205Then she lost it too.About her present mental state, wouldn't it be because she finally managed to put some distance between herself and whatever toxic person in her family?
>>39031179So this is why Nabi is in Europe.
>>39031928You're really recognizable, you do know that right? You write fairly competent English but your reasoning makes no sense and you never provide anything to back it up (because you yourself don't understand why you have these feelings, because you're a fucking basket case)
>>39031865>2022 BRONZES>PER COMPANY226x: Hololive104x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO1x: Holostars>PER STREAMER41x: Miko34x: Subaru32x: Pekora29x: Kuzuha17x: Marine12x: Salome10x: Gura, Nijisanji7x: Toya6x: Koyori5x: Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Korone, Mori, Shion3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction
>>39032033I actually wonder if a holomama would ever be able to become a hololive talent if they auditioned for that
>>39031205Wasn't Holopro who did a statement after this, supporting Kronii's misbehavior towards their own fans? No wonder HoloEN is this mess, twitter trannies at higher ups positions.
>>39032078Anon, you're just making the snowflake feel special. Stop replying.
>>39032102They said that the content was up to their talents, which included also excluding tempus but the homobeggars choose to ignore that part
Honestly the jew corpo girls were decent enough that I'd see them perform well in HoloEN. The whole "there are no decent talents left" argument seems retarded.Either management is absolutely retarded and genuinely thought Tempiss could fill the EN3 hole, something went wrong during the training period for EN3 or they updated the terms and contract after Sana and now it's such a deathtrap that the talents would rather go to NijiEN and become 3view cumrags than HoloEN.
I miss those unity mixed with numbers days where did it go wrong.Even ina is laughing like crazy. https://youtu.be/IG4DR9uqLRE
>>39032170It's simply a way to deflect from EN's retarded decisions just like those redditors who want everyone who crave EN content to watch tempus or nijisanji
I will never understand how someone as inoffensive as Fauna has attracted these schizos.
>>39032027What did she lose from before? Numbers when playing debuff shit during overlap? When everyone else's numbers are in the gutter this quarter?You bitches were crying about too many tempiss collabs and now they stopped spamming them and you still wouldn't stop complaining.
>>39032260She gets good numbers, that makes some people upset.
holo gold contenders>17 Pekora new outfit>27 Kanata debut anniversary>29 Watame debut anniversary>31 Hololive NY streamniji gold contenders>18 Marika 2022 tournament>20 Luxiem anniversary>25 SMC live>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)
EN was a mistake
We don't need EN3
>>39032260They were most likely abused as children.
>>39031928>you jest but # is an oasis in the septic tank that is /vt/Do you realize in what region of the world your average /#/fag lives right?
>>39032260She is one of the few ENs who is doing better than she did before which pisses some people off. Then the fact there is nothing people can use to tear her down, they start making schizo stuff up.
>>39032170It might be something like one of the girls is contracted and they want to wait out her contract
>>39032170So what's stopping you from watching those decently enough jew corpo girls then?
>>39031966>Kronii was still pulling some numbers if she wasn't playing indie shit iirc.But she ÀLWAYS played crappy debuffs. And yet, here is her current bottom 10 gaming streams>peak :: date :: title :: video_id>4055 :: 2022-12-04 :: 【TOEM】Professional Photographer | END :: x5XxfYoazTA>4202 :: 2022-03-04 :: 【Hades】Where Am I Again | END :: hk2tpeRykEs>4204 :: 2022-11-18 :: 【The Unfinished Swan】Become Uncanny :: Zg4kQ9WM724>4535 :: 2022-04-23 :: 【Sayonara Wild Hearts】Goodbye Love Hello Rhythm :: 2BUWNbghnOU>4716 :: 2022-01-21 :: 【Frostpunk: The Last Autumn】Winter Is Here | END :: aYCbRzMop1k>4757 :: 2022-11-10 :: 【Kirby And The Forgotten Land】The End | END? :: wvcT76BdlWo>4878 :: 2022-08-04 :: 【Stray】Move Meow | END :: D22BO5nPaiw>4938 :: 2022-01-20 :: 【Inscryption】Showdown With The Mastermind | #3 :: c6xrOE7k_lI>4955 :: 2022-11-09 :: 【TOEM】Taking Pictures | #1 :: MCncFUKbh0c>5155 :: 2021-12-16 :: 【Diablo II: Resurrected】Kicking Demons To The Ground With @Takanashi Kiara Ch. hololive-EN | #3 :: GLYJiDDa2BgKronii only has 9 gaming streams below 5k, with SIX of them being since August, with the other three being 2 during CCVID and one being>Sayonara Wild Heartswhich is the WORST gaming stream by any of the Holo girls, everKronii really dropped a huge part of her base to be "free" to collab with whoever she wants.But she's not collabing now.
>>39032239>>39032398Case in point
>>39032170the only one i'd watch would be the tomboy tho
>>39032356Most of the EN3 beggars are clipwatchers that don't watch streams
>>39032297>>27 Kanata debut anniversarywill she get a call by you-know-who
>>39032260Homoniggers and Nijiniggers seething, at usual.
>>39032374She better be the next Gura then, if they willing to fuck everything for one girl.
>>39032170I'm mad that we didn't get that cute french girl. Holy fucking shit Cover get your shit together.
>>39032436>these jew corpo girls are good enough for EN3! I want EN3!>I'm not going to watch them btwClown
>>39032454>EN3 beggars are clipwatchers that don't watch streamsWhich streams?
>>39032413I wonder who will be the first to break (other than Mori).I'm guessing Ame making some group collab for some game no one wants to play again.
>>39032413I'm really clueless but were>hades>stray>inscryptionreally debuff games?
>>39032374Well, we should be nearing the end of some of the 2-year contracts
>>39032517There are enough VODs to catch up with during their absence
>>39032170We know two things about EN management:1 - They *always* thwart the girls' creatividad.2 - Their public persona is Omegatroon.They're malevolent retards. The "real" management in JP doesn't understand Western female/"female" vileness.
>>39032170Rin is the only good one.
This is one way to boost engagement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBBRATo6pKc
>>39032275>What did she lose from before?See >>39032413. It is not "Numbers when playing debuff shit during overlap", she clearly lost a portion of her audience, her floor dropped easily 1k.Kronii has a huge name recognition, a very high ceiling but her daily streams are exactly what you see in that list: low effort games so she can talk over them without putting too much mental effort.Ever since she dropped Minecraft that's what she does and now she lost the exact part of the audience that tolerated that
>>39032557>hadesShe played it like 4 separate times, so it stops being even neutral>StraySame thing. After the first part it stops being a neutral/buff and just becomes a full on debuff>Inscryption >>>>>>>>>Part 3
>>39032454I think you are mixing things up anon. EN3 beggers are people who watch streams. Because there are no streams so more chuubas make sense. Clipwatchers don't have a say in anything because for all they know EN is doing completely fine and dandy.
>>39032576and if you want someone new, there are always indies and nijis as well
>>39032536Ame's stance has always been weird and retarded. She seemingly is only ok with doing large group collabs but won't do 1 on 1s. I could see her breaking first just because her stance wasn't really logical to begin with
Fungus winning gold is a fucking travesty and should honestly mark the end of this thread for good.
>>39032260She has a boyfriend
>>39032608>EN3 beggers are people who watch streams.Except I watch streams and don't give a fuck about EN3, I just want these girls to get better and go back to streaming.
>>39032536It'd have to be Ame or Mori. Bae is mostly done, Kronii would be down but she'll probably wait for a Vesper invite and that poor dumb motherfucker probably just wants to do his own stuff for a while without controversy for once in his career
>>39032608Also, these clipwatching troglodytes don't even know they are watching clips from a stream months ago.
>>39032398The fact that I genuinely don't feel like getting invested in a new corpo with a fresh start, and I'd rather have the HoloEN seal knowing what to expect and seeing them interact with the other girls I got to know during the last two years.What are you even trying to get at? Do you think that HoloEN should wait for another Gura tier talent? Good luck with that, the entire branch will die sooner.
>>39032641I agree. All in favor of just ending the thread?
WHAT THE FUCKhttps://youtu.be/MGqgoZNoZC4?t=68
>>39032606Yeah, I paid no attention to that.
>>39032501>I'm mad that we didn't get that cute french girlCover, justifiably, does not want to be involved in EU.
>>39032501Saruei is better tbqhJust hire all of vyugen and make them EN3There's your Euro hours solved
>>39032641You can mark it as "Yugo's graduation stream"
>>39032608I genuinely want EN to work out the retarded management first. I see EN3 more like being a band-aid fix for that.
>>39032670I'll just keep it simple. People like you are the reason why we get situations where there are no streams for days and omegay thinking we needed tempiss.
>>39032413I only see a bunch of debuff games and also they are series.so i dont trust this methodology sunce could be just a case of content
>>39032715She was NA french tho
>>39032557Depends on the streamer. For instance, Stray was a very good game for Mel because1) she finished it in ONE sitting2) she was really caring about the main character3) she followed the story as intended by the creatorsIt made it a very emotional and cute stream with a big payout at the end>her reaction to the "punchline"For other streamers, like Kronii, it was a debuff. 1) It took her two streams to finish it. She even got decent numbers for the first (11k) but her own shortcomings made the second to be below 5k2) As usual, she was absolutely uninvolved in the story, never ever immersing and breaking the "fourth wall" frequently3) She explicitly said that she likes to play the game to find "secret passages" and "special levels" and spent a good time outside the "golden path" of the gameThat's the main reason 7k of the people that watched her first stream didn't return for the end
I think Kronii is really trying to get her fans back if she continues this path she might succeed. Doing Asmr/karaoke and a JP senpai collab in a month time is really surprising for Kronii and IIRC she organize a collab recently but reine cancelled.
>>39032589>>39032501Isn't this the one who followed Tempus and a bunch of other males before debut? No thanks. Redflag both on and off stream.
>>39032700Thanks, I'll /become/.
>>39032755there's an argie as well mixed in there.
>>39032700What? First time watching Lamy radio?
>>39032601Her floor didn't drop by 1k. She wouldn't be getting 5k on part 2 of TOEM under overlap even at the height of her popularity
>>39032608>EN3 beggers are people who watch streamsEven with the content drought from ENs being sick, their combined streamed hours this month are well over 200 hours, enough for anyone who wants to watch them to catch up
>>39032601That doesn't really prove that she lost her audience because of her collab stance, considering half of those "top 10 worst streams" were before Sept 2022 when she made the tweet.Everyone in HoloEN except for Fauna is approaching record lows right now anyways so it's a greater trend than just "durrr male collabs"
>>39032831Stray was a debuff for everyone. Because everyone was playing. Has little to do with the streamer.
Maybe there's no EN3 because Cover still can't find broken girls
>>39032896Fauna doesn't overlap
>>39032594Oh wow i forgot she's still exist
>>39032501>that cute french girlA menhera that larps as a guy on her alt?
>>39032894Look anon most people just don't want to watch Kiara and Mori streaming garbage for hours
>>39032941Because ina is dead
>>39032896Of course more is going on than just male collabs, that's just one problem in an entire laundry list of ailments right now
>>39032970no, the french canadian jew dog
>>39032686>What are you even trying to get at? Do you think that HoloEN should wait for another Gura tier talent? Good luck with that, the entire branch will die sooner.Then so be it. Why bloat the branch with mediocrity just because some neet wants to watch streams for 24 hours a day?
>>39032941She overlapped Mori's entire SPECIAL EDITION UNARCHIVED KARAOKE yesterday.
>>39033001I wonder what would've been if EN3 debuted with my eel wife.
>>39032916Numbers to put the discussion into some context. Notes: Kiara was the first to stream it, and Ina got a giant funnel from the Council Big Smol stream.
>>39032896Drop started before the tweet btw
>people arguing Kronii didn't get a massive debuff post Tempisstake it from someone who used to watch her regularly, she literally had her worst absolute month during October/November. With also her lowest recorded stream ever. And the kusoge argument doesn't hold considering she always played that kind of shit, hell I've seen her hold 8k with much much worse.
>>39032972So you complain about Mori and Kiara's content while being okay with getting more Moris and Kiaras? What are you going to do when EN3 is full of them, complain about Cover scouting department while begging for EN4?
>>39033045>24k on fucking Strayit's so easy to forget how strong Gura was even just 5-6 months agoPlease shark, come back, how can you throw away this kind of power
>>39033032we'd get another mori bathroom break augmented audio
>>39032844WTF?I understand if people wants to forgive Bae, but KRONII? FUCKING KRONII??Liar, lazy, bad at games and now male collaber.
>>39033045Stray was a shit game.
>>39033064And I've seen her get 4.2k and 4.4k when she was still getting 20ks on Minecraft
I would actually like more gens for EN so Ame/Kiara can actually do big collabs without needing to include ID to fill for those in EN who don't wanna participate
>>39033045And for completeness' sake here is NijiEN numbers from it.
>>39033091You are so amazingly dishonest that it's entertaining, who is your oshi?
Personally I can't wait for EN3 because once their debut buff wears off and they start overlapping other ENs and cannibalizing their numbers it will bring a new wave of grimposting
>>39032806I don't see what could convince you then. Her content didn't change significantly, she always played these "debuffs" but she only hit below 5k nine times, with six being since August, two on CCVID and one after spending 20 minutes pretty much in silence trying to clear a level of a terrible game>which still retained a larger audience than the two most recent sub 5k entriesIn the same period she got five of her bottom 10 superchat reading, her lowest minecraft on record, her lowest karaoke on record (singing on a clear slot as the "waiting room" for the company wide Minecraft collab) and her lowest stream on record overall.The burden of proof is being raised tremendously here, there is enough circumstantial evidence to make the claim that her floor fell and there is even a simple explanation for the fact
Man, Kronies are delusional
>>39033064Yeah and like everyone else said, HoloEN numbers for everyone are much worse now than they were 4 months ago when Kronii could get 8k on something The Last Campfire.The only one who has avoided a massive recline is Fauna, who typically starts first and doesn't have to deal with much overlap until she reaches her peak.
>kronies are coping againtime to post the graph
>>39033161Sayonara wild hearts was also WILDLY out of her time zone, overlapping Fauna and Ame.
>>39033006Because the alternative is letting the entire thing die you fucking imbecile? You're literally admitting it.>just because some neet wants to watch streams for 24 hours a day?unironically die of brain cancer ledditman
>>39033045>asmr gaming
>30k goldJesus
>>39033130Well too bad she can't do that anymore
>>39033190I don't think we are dealing with kronies here but rather the ones who would look bad if we see the pattern where she dropped her viewership
>>39033197The labeled one is funnier
>>39032260>mother natureIs a teenage emo girl, also kawaii and uwu tehe
>>39033197what caused those drops around october?
>>39033140I accept your concessionMy oshi is Fauna, I watch her only and I don't care about EN3, since I'm not going to have enough time to keep up with them anywaysAnyone begging for new branches do that because they are not invested enough in the current talents and want to pick a new oshi
stylishnoob4 wants to make holoearth streamer server in the future lol
>>39033131Yes, more gens will make collabs actually possible. Right now it's impossible to hold any big events or collabs
>>39033296sadly is not as complete>>39033296
>>39033304Is that what got you offended?
>>39033344I don't believe you, but it's interesting to see who you are hiding your retarded takes behind.
>>39033193Except that Kronii was always the absolute strongest Council during overlaps, so much picrel shows her dominating everyone, even fucking Sana during her graduation buff month. Now she loses to Fauna in overlaps.I think she can still summon more tourists than any other Council but she lost a good chunk of core viewers.
>>39033344>No punctuation like the Niji shitposterStop falseflagging christ.
>>39033225Retarded schizo
>>39033161Or people are just getting bored of Hololive and moving on from the hobby.Notice how Fauna was only hovering around 25k before she started spiking for her costume (climbed slower than some NijiEN costume reveals), and she's the only Council who isn't crashing as hard as the rest.
>>39033149That only happens with Niji though.
>>39033296>>39033056
Wasn't this guy super hyped at the beginning? His numbers fell fast, holy shit. I guess that happens when you're a talentless faggot. Also the new Niji guy isn't doing too good either.
>>39033411You sound like a nijinigger
>>39028382>Shitters like Bae and Kiara>He said this while Fauna is on the incline.
>>39033410>kronii>touristsbut she's boring
>>39033431We will see if Kronii is the one getting shitty numbers on her outfit reveal
>>39033431>around 25k before she started spiking for her costumeNijiniggers and lying about numbers. Classic combo.
>>39033197Still can't understand how Mumei lost her spot as top Council. People say the tourists left her because she wasn't acting like as much of a sociopath anymore, but did her content really change that much?
>>39033545So is Fauna shut the fuck up
>>39033469He needs to pull out the buff. Right now Hex still looks strong.
>>39033056>first vesper mention
>>39033554I really, really wish she'd have savored it a bit more. But she was so excited to show it off she just couldn't.
>>39033130>when she was still getting 20ks on MinecraftWhy don't you find proof for your claim then, because this is the last time she got 20k on Minecraft and the only thing that got 4k was a fucking SC reading.
>>39032673Mori has her pokemon tournament but that depends on when it happens.
>>39033056How did KroMei sink?
>>39033410This. The problem isn't Kronii's ceiling. Her tourist appeal is still strong and she can pull off surprising stream numbers if she's playing a good game because of it. The problem is that her floor has weakened and so her day to day streams are just in the pisser now to the point the rest of council have a stronger averageThis isn't even getting to the other problems Kronii has relative to her gen like the worst views and bad sub growth.
>>39033469
>>39033569some on # say she went on/off meds. I think she's just a bit off putting. Copefags will claim schoolwork.
>>39033599anon, this is /#/, not the fact checker thread
>>39033469Kys
>>39033598Yeah, IRyS stalling for 15 minutes is the optimal way to do it, but oh well it was obvious she was in a bit of a rush cause the merch was releasing as well and she was excited.
>>39033628Kronii decided to kill it.
>>39033571t. Never watched a Fauna stream
EN niggas be like>these low numbers don't count because she was being overlapped by someone else tweeting
In other news, reddit has begun to turn the tide again the homoshills
>>39032260She's a pick-me just like Pippa and Pomu and her fanbase is full of fragile snowflakes.
lmao kronies getting btfo left and right with actual proof, how embarrassing
>>39033410She lost to Fauna in the Among Us collab by 1k (shit numbers all around) and that was Fauna's time slot.I do think Fauna has improved as a streamer and so has a more loyal viewer base than Kronii, who has gotten significantly more boring and seems to revel in being in "i don't really care to be entertaining, I'm just being myself" mode.
>>39033469I won't tolerate Nowa Oji slander, he's like the only decent male vtuber and the rest are either normalfags like pic related, douchebags like Luca, or whiny menheras like Mysta and Vox.
>>39033431Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one and in Kronii's case it looks that way.People assumed that her ambivalent and then outright hostile attitude towards her own audience would cost her part of her most dedicated followers. One anon even called for a "Kronii recline watch" to monitor the predicted crash.Then Kronii numbers crashed exactly as predicted.It is not impossible that a combination of poor choice of content, general loss of interest in the branch unrelated to Tempus, Kronii own shortcomings as streamer and as an entertainer are responsible for her sudden and massive recline.It is also possible that her flip flop on collabs with Tempus and her defiant tweet is responsible for that. I don't see why people would discard this possibility
Listen to my eel wife being cute.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMBaZ7209kY
>>39033739>t. woman
>>39033743Don't even pull the timeslot card when Kronii got imposter repeatedly and still couldn't come close
>>39033720>4 up votesThat's cool, now go back.
>>39033699How so?
>tourist starts watching a kronii stream>*dead air*>"DIE!">*dead air*>tourist leavesshe has 0 appeal beyond model (when she doesn't hide it) and voice, she's the most boring of her generation, and it isn't close
>>39033743>that was Fauna's time slot.that shit was Kiara's timeslot if anything.
Funny thing about Kronii is Gura likes her and tried to minimize her loss by mentioning her and Gura even went to Kronii's chat.Honestly the bleed for Kronii might be much worse if she isn't a member of SNOT and Gura just left her during the drama.
I love all the seethe from the unicorn cucks like >>39033469
>>39033769If anything her insistence on pushing away the viewers who would watch anything of hers made all the other issues more apparent
>>39033393No, I still like her as daughter nature.
>>39033749Mysta is the strongest EN vtuber now with Gura out of the picture
>>39033569This one is the real mystery and doesn't have an obvious explanation. Personally I think her content just got kinda shitty while she had to focus on schoolwork, and once people break the habit of watching you it's hard to get them to come back.
>anon knows the state of EN vtubing>anon doesn't watch JP because he doesn't speak Japanese>anon could've learned enough Japanese to understand conversational Japanese with the time he spend EN3 posting and schizoposting here in the previous 6 months
>>39033769It's impossible to narrow this stuff down to just 1 thing because reality doesn't work that way. In truth it's probably a combination of factors but as you said sometimes the most obvious answer is the likely oneI'm fine with people wanting to be a bit more level headed and think of alternative causes for her recline, but it's the retards who completely want to discount Kronii's collab drama and not even consider it a possibility that are retards not worth discussing with.
How does this thread always find its way back to Council vs Council when none of them were even relevant to the original discussion lolIs this like a /uuu/ vs /inf/ proxy war I don't get it
>>39033620That shit isn't happening bro, have you heard a peep about it? They're going to lose perms soon anyway.Who would even go right now if she did decide to do it?
>>39033790and she actually went out of her way to ruin the game a couple times
>>39033790The numbers were so shit in that collab that imposter buff was a whooping 1000 at most.
>>39033900Vox is not king anymore...
>>39033900Mysta is strong when he is spamming Buff streams like he has done all this month. His gaming content gets shit numbers.
>>39033720Nothing new. Homoshills tend to be loud at beginning, but their forces die, the older post is.
>>39033974Wasn't she planning on a homo tournament, what happened with that?
>>39033599>10k on house flipper>11.7k on a fucking zatsu>7-9ks on episode #who-knows of shitty indie gamesKronii was strong. So fucking strong
>>39033634In her latest 10 streams there's literally only one stream that doesn't start under 2+ people overlap and it's her superchat reading. She doesn't have the luxury of accumulating viewers for 2 hours in an empty time slot
The chumbies are rising up...
>>39033968numbers loves fauna but nijishits and homolovers take every chance they get to push toxic holos and/or male collabs
>>39034028While that's true, it's also true that Mysta always did less gaming content than the rest of Luxiem. So he's just de facto the strongest
>>39033974>lose perms soonThe end of February is pretty far away.
There's never going to be another Gura huh... not even talking about personality I mean just general success.
>>39034079Not strong enough to be the cock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRf1zQ4eCAkHe's really doing it huh
>>39034028>gaming streamsYou don't have to play vidya to be a vtuber. Just come up with a new gimmick stream every day. Sometimes I feel like Nijisanji would be more popular if they were allowed to do react content like on Twitch.
>>39033815that's genuinely how it went for me. Used to tune into her streams to fall asleep to, although I dropped her when fixed my sleeping schedule.
>>39033968>Topic started with Gura not streaming and not interacting with Myth>Which switched to shitting on Mori>Which then switched to shitting on Kronii>Meanwhile Faunaschizo has been seething the entire timeYou gotta admit this thread has certainly been a trip.
>>39034190The chat looks like a venting space for chumbuds
>>39034142do you see yagoo signing belle delphine or amouranth anytime soon>>39034207lol I used her for that too
>>39034090Yeah but these used to be overlaps that she would win anyway. Now she's getting mogged
It seems that even the most deranged holotranny is losing hope...I hate them but it's sad to see them in this state.Was the shark whore's inactivity the last straw?
>>39033469Pio is funny, I would recommend his Otaku game stream. His voice acting is fun. However, his acting does make him feel disingenious.
>>39034035She was planning two tournaments.Hololive and Holopro (so the homos could join).
>>39034190>Chat going Who's AyameJesas. Where do these people even come from...
>>39033815>copypasted postYou just don't understand her appeal
>>39033815I thought people were just joking about that until i caught one of her streams and just sat there waiting for her to do something
>>39034190That's motherfucking Merlin from FGO.
>>39033948>anon doesn't watch JP because he doesn't speak JapaneseSpeak for yourself, I watch them despite not knowing Japanese and know for a fact multiple other people do so as well based on the chat
>>39034035She wanted to do a homoProEN tournament and a holo tournament Yes she was unironically going to try doing two separate tournaments to accommodate 4 peopleI saw people saying Regis shut that down on stream and isn't interested in joining any tournaments so I assume that one just died.
>>39034307it's not copypasta when it's your oc
>>39027295it's tied at 8-8, gura x5, mori x2 and sana graduation for holo vs 2 each for mysta and vox, 2 debuts, selen outfit and now fungus for niji
>>39034266Why are you talking about your graduated Liver like that after xhe just joined the 41%?
>>39034190Based dramafaggot going for the death blow.
>>39033569Lots of angle has been discuss like kronii/content or school.New angle for me is she is Gura substitute and she gotten much closer to Ame during her FPS arc. So maybe the Gura fans that watch her before leave because of Ame.
>>39034286Has there been any updates on either of those? I don't think i have any of the girls even talking about the first and definitely not the latter
Go die EN scum
>>39034321This. Look at chat name and you can see the EOPs pretending to speak JP.
>>39034232Sort her most recent vod comments by new and you'll see a real vent sesh
When was Gura's last member stream?
>>39034424cum? ok, i'll be back in a bit
>>39034424Why couldn't the Queen of Spades get a model as sexy as this one?
>>39034384>deflectingDamn, I can't keep looking at you your current state, chumpedo...
>>39034286Neither makes any sense anymoreAre the dudes even playing pokemon? And what, the 2-3 girls who have played some of the new Pokemon are going to join a tournament when they probably won't even finish the game and will be done streaming it by the time one could be put together?It's a dead concept
>>39034290Most interesting thing is that since November 1st Ayame has 33 hours in 10 streams, while Gura has 30 hours in 9 streams.
>>39034445over a month ago
>>39034266Chumbuds are finally breaking but please don't call people whores, it's rude
>>39034461Because it would be a waste on her
>>39034434Shouldn't they be used to Gura dissapearing for a week by now?
>>39033720Those votes will be turned around in a couple of hours when discordfags start voting. Happens all the time there.
>>39034467Yes Mori always underestimates how uninterested the rest of EN is
>>39025874
>just learn japanese lol
>>39033554That was when she started doing the RPG game.When she was going through costumes, she was stalling hard in the mid 20k.
>>39034507I guess at some point the disappearing act gets old
>>39034507It's cause she said she was trying to get better in that vod and she's open to criticismWell she didn't get better so now the criticism is there
>>39034507it's getting increasingly common tho
>>39034268I mean, Hex is blatantly disingenuous and the sisters are eating that up. I guess broken boys just sell better.
>>39034536Jump king...
>>39034583soon it's gonna be all red
>>39034507It's more that each time Gura comes back she says that she's going to improve but then doesn't.
>>39034567You are actually just living in your own schizo world.
>>39034555Already did. Started 10 years ago. You can do it too.
I love IRyS.
>>39034507>i will get better>and I'm open for criticism>disappears for another weeki'd get miffed too if i was as invested
>>39034507Just like Kronii and being a dead air doomer, it's tolerable until the resentment boils over and you give up.Look at Gura's recent VODs, she's had more sub-300k VODs recently than ever before. The algo is abandoning her.
>>39034628it's gonna be a rough year
>>39034626And another case of Council caring more about supporting the rest of EN.
>>39033948No I couldn’t have I am very bad at learning languages
>>39034626It was hilarious how big failure that was. No one even bothered to follow the rules.
>>39034670how do get over the part where you have to learn a ton of vocabulary but every resource is a fucking list with no thematic grouping or a randomized deck
>>39034712don't worry, this 24 Gura will do a sex off-collab with Ame
Gura4 Streams16,058 Median.13 Hours 22 MinutesMori13 Streams4,581 median46 Hours 49 MinutesAme 1 Stream3,809 CCV2 Hours 3 MinutesKiara8 Streams 4,080 Median36 Hours 59 MinutesIRyS8 Streams7,370 Median29 Hours 03 MinutesKronii6 Streams5,176 Median22 Hours 10 minutesMumei12 Streams6,605 Median36 Hours 54 MinutesFauna14 Streams8,737 Median40 Hours 17 minutesBae11 Streams5,808 Median41 Hours 48 Minutes
>>39034729The real problem with the Jump King tournament is that they got From Software permissions in the meantime so they had other things to do than practice for it
>>39034670pic related for me
>>39034392Mori hasn’t mentioned recently but she’s been kind of busy with the album
ENbros don't lose hope. Trust the process. HoloEN is tanking now so that they can get the no. 1 draft pick and pick a star for EN3.
>>39034793>Mori nearly has as many hours streamed as the rest of EN combined
>>39034626it was hilarious but it's on mori's stupidity, not myth lack of commitment. She wanted others to compete playing a particularly hard game when the only one with decent skill/training was her, and gave them what, one week to prepare?
>>39034809now put her face on that
Ela strong
You know what Gura needs. Bring back schedules
>>39034891Do you mean Myth? Because Bae and Fauna have 40 hours, Mumei has 36
>>39034795Let's be real. No one outside of Mori would practice to this even if they have nothing to do.
>>39034700Idk why you specifically target just Gura when everyone in EN got blasted. Also, targeting VODs is a really retarded thing right now too when UI changes rolling through made it increasingly hard for tourist/new faces/casuals to find streams. This is something literally multiple ENs have spoken about and complained. I’m pretty sure within the past month, IRyS, Mumei and Fauna each addressed it and aired their annoyances over it.
>>39034891Anon? There are several people with around 40 hours
>>39034756>how do get over the part where you have to learn a ton of vocabularyCure Dolly (God bless her robotic soul) put it better when she said>what are you learning japanese for?NTA, but I started learning to be able to read tweets and the title and description of the streams so most of the vocabulary I picked up was the most common words in tweets and stream titles.You can't escape kanji and grammar so Wanikani and Genki I are the most accessible ways to start, along with https://www.tofugu.com/learn-japanese/
>>39034808
>>39034793>kronii's sub-baeoof
>>39034756I spent a lot of time reading. Did help me to remember words better because of context.
>>39034921kek
>>39034851What if they do the equivalent of tearing their ACL and have a boyfriend yab???
>>39034992Were you under the impression that Bae is lazy or something?
>>39034945She's suckin in all the EN viewers that have no stream to watch.
>>39034954Yes I did.
>>39034992Bae has been streaming a bunch lately, courtesy of her newfound addiction to Persona 5.
>>39034992Yeah Persona is unironically one of the best content decisions Bae has made in a while. It doesn't bring huge numbers but she has a good floor of viewers who are now invested in her playthrough.
>>39034992her median is getting closer every day to Mori/Kiara..
>>39034992Is that surprising? Bae has the third most streamed hours out of EN for this year so far.
>>39034729No one even wanted to play that game at all except Mori but she somehow thought it was a great idea to make an event out of it.
>>39034583So was the whole "stream Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays" just for October?
>sub 100k viewsPego…
>>39035130They all mentioned being interested at the time
>>39035094It also has been helpful to get her some clips too.
>>39035049not lazy, no. But she's hardly popular. Kronii went from the biggest in council to sub-bae.>>39035126kiara streams a bunch and doesn't get that many views
>>39034793Damn, look at Mori go. She's just a workaholic business lady getting shit done. If only Gura had 10% of her work ethic.
>>39030122Sounds disgusting, I need to see the source. To disgust myself, you know
>>39035094Bae should continue doing these long playthroughs of buff RPG games. Subaru did it on her Saturday timeslot and she inclined a lot out of it.
>>39030122you mean the same one that gets posted here?
EN stream for tonight>Homo, Bael, Homo, Moriyeah gonna skip all that
>>39035214A real Sisyphus
>>39035214I can respect Mori for her workload, but I just get filtered hard by her streams.
>>39035193>kiara streams a bunch and doesn't get that many viewsStreams consist only of supacha reading and talking about herself. You need to put some quality to her quantity.
>>39035193Oh you were talking about views.Well, I don't think Bae ever did anything to piss off her fans.
>>39034793B-but i thought IRyS was number 2
>>39035286Isn't moomers doing an endurance
Kek, management is shit. No Fauna short today apparently, she usually uploads them on her regular streaming time.
>>39034793what happened to ame?
>>39034793>when the college students have some of the highest hours
>>39035333she should be like haachama and still uploading it
>>39035214Mori is definitely an example of work harder, not smarter.
>>39035193Oh, you were talking about her median, most anons were paying attention to hours streamed.
>>39035368Burnt out for the millionth time
>>39035214I don't like Mori but all of the stuff she does shows how lazy a lot of the other ENs are aside from Kiara and the ones busy with college.
Why does Mori keep replying to Pippa
>>39035331Yeah she definitely talked about doing one in the gameplay portion of her stream last night, don't know if she changed her mind during the SC part.
>>39035368she loves more her aquarium than streaming>>39035414is pink
>>39035368She got sick and then that turned into a really deep spell of burnout, apparently.She had sounded burnt out recently, especially after the Holoween collab, so I'm really not surprised
>>39035193Kronii has the unfortunate situation of being the pack leader for Council but lacking the leader mentality.
>>39035333EN managers are all on vacation for the holidays after all the incredible amount of hard work they did these last few months.
>>39035333Even worse is that If she doesn't get it approved by Friday (JST) it won't get approved until Monday cause nips don't work on weekends.
>>39035193>Kronii went from the biggest in council to sub-bae.What can I say? Bae's Persona streams are more entertaining that Kronii talking once every 3 mins while playing Sonic under overlap.
>>39035286Well if you don't like any of this, then the only real option for some time will be Mumei.
>>39035252Unfortunately the next one is probably going to be Fire Emblem Engage and SRPGs are a major debuff.
>>39035316>piss off her fansNot her fans, no.But she does like to filter any tourist she might have had, which is why she's everyone's second choice.
>>39035368tommy hort -> actually I fucking hate streaming
en3....
>>39035368Busy making an ASMR setup using multiple mics instead of just buying an ASMR mic.
>>39035094The clips are the real goldmine for Bae and Persona.I've seen 3 of them get 200k views within days (funny because her VOD is like 75k but oh well).
>>39035333>Hours of unsupervised stream content.No problem>6 minutes of shorts in totalYeah, we are going to need to spend 5 business days reviewing that.God I fucking hate Cover's bureaucracy.
>>39035403interesting that her PL friend also had a menhera moment on twitter back in november
>>39035540
>>39035459From what the orange homo said management are all drunkards who party hard.
>>39035436She wanted to do the endurance today, but if that doesn't work out she still wants to stream something else.
>>39035641Ah yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks anon.
>>39035625Kek
>>39035478I don't understand this perception; the two arguments that people give for it are her voice and her zoomer attitude.The voice I can't agree with since I find it very pleasant; the zoomerism I find charming for how innocent she comes off as.
Gura still streams more than my oshi lol
>tfw niji actually has a chance to win this month gold
Who was it that said that december was going to be full of good stuff? Was it Fauna?
my cute wife
>>39035754Poor tako.Alternatively, well deserved teacuck.
>>39035770Wait, why isn't this guy smiling?
>>39035743You find her screams pleasant too?
>>39035796yes
>>39035743She just shouts so goddamn much, and it seems she has her volume always set on max outside her morning streams. I also wish she was better at interacting with chat during gameplay streams.
>>39035796Fauna said a lot of exciting stuff to look forward to for the rest of the year. Meaning her saplings. And she wasn't wrong.
>>39035796If Kiara didn’t do the advent calendar literally all management had planned was the ugly sweater merch.
>>39035472They’re debuff but you’re being way too critical here. Any single TRPG fan can tell you there has not been a mainstream — or even popular — game that’s come out since Three Houses and that was years and years ago. Hell, when Kiara played it, it was already a year and a half old. I think it’s wrong to cast the genre as a whole as “major debuff” when the reality is that the genre does not get nearly the same yearly output like other series do. We haven’t seen an on-release TRPG yet that holos have even played. Tactics Ogre remaster was the best chance but that was released around the same time as pokemon did
>>39035743>her voice and her zoomer attitudeVoice? No. Attitude? Also no.Her tendency to yell? That's definitely a filter.
>>39035822Yeah.
>>39035770>Niji winningMigo is still superbuffed by Pokemon so I doubt it.
>>39035796December has been pretty good for Saplings.
>>39035572Look man, you don't want them uploading subliminal mind control in their video and then all of a sudden everyone who watches starts chanting "She's Fauna and she's my master. I'll follow her as you spread disaster. Take over the government, do as she says. She'll rule the world and I'll obey."
>>39035770Didn't they wkn last December too? Or got close, at least. This is their 2nd most competetive month, with tournaments and NJU.
>>39035796Fauna probably just means she's gonna be treating saplings good this month. We already have the outfit and it looks like she's gonna be the only EN to actually stream on christmas
>>39035934Ah I fucked up. Godammit.>I'll follow her as she spreads disaster
>>39035923I love our Harajuku gyaru Fauna!
>>39035770Nah, it's going to be a good month for them getting 11-12 golds or so, but they won't win it
>>39035813thot
>>39035986Mumei will show her outfit after christmas
>>39035796Fauna got new outfit, so it kinda was for her.
>>39036044I sure hope so
>>39035895You ungrateful shits. Be thankful management graced us with an amazon sweater that's lazily made by a 2nd party company by giving them a png of art made by someone else. That takes a lot of work!
>>39035923I swear if only that outfit wasn't so lame...
>>39034793Myth except Gura is absolute garbageJust graduate if you're that burnt out
>>39036044I'll pretend to believe that.
>>39036013This. Fungus gold is esssentially the graduation gold they could have gotten if they did not terminate Yugo.
Cover delayed Myth's 3D debuts once again, they will now happen MAYBE after holoFes. This is why the girls are so disheartened and burned out lately.
>>39034793where's Ina?
>>39036089oh Ina will
>>39033569>she wasn't acting like as much of a sociopath anymoreshe stopped playing her character and just became herself like every other en. v-tubers are at their most entertaining when they are playing a character.
>>39036078thanks amazon
>>39035743I actually really like Bae's personality, I think she's cute.I'm just a tired, weary old man who sincerely, unironically can't take the screaming and yelling
So this might just be a personal experience, but is anyone else getting thrown onto the auto-generated topic versions of songs really quick when just listening to Holo music with the autoplay algo?
>>39036089ina...
>>39036140Ina0 Streams0 CCV0 Hours
>>39035895She got the idea something like the 28th of November. Would have been an extremely grim December without even that
>>39036155I wonder if I'll still be into vtubers 10 years from now. I imagine that I'll need to leave all of this behind at some point.
>>39035907>Her tendency to yellOh my God, this. SO MUCH THIS.I tried. God knows I tried. I keep trying to watch her stream after Fauna's done, and every single time she keeps reminding me why she's my last choice to watch because she just can't. Stop. YELLING.
>>39035916it's absolutely insane that out of 12 40k+ and often 50k+ shiny hunting streams miko has ZERO golds
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zmv1ed/en3_is_now_officially_the_longest_time_betweenFucking hell, my only hope in this dark times is that Cover doesn't pay a single bit of attention to that shithole because if not then is truly over.
>>39036141Shut your whore mouth.
>>39036304time to become hooman, takos
>>39036162For me the topic version of Alice&U is the one the plays when I leave auto play on
>>39036078Management didn’t even pick the artist, that was Kiara
>>39036201Yeah, pretty surprised how fast she was with it. Helps that the hyperchat dev is a KFP and volunteered.
>>39036136Didn't Kiara say that she was going to Japan a second time in early spring recently?
What's going to happen first, Ina returning or EN3?
>>39035309Making shit up now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfhXe364ORYMoom Soon
>>39036291I want to vomitI need to stop clicking these fucking links you people post here
>>39036536starsEN 2
>>39036483March, for Holofes
>>39036536ina isnt coming back anon...
To me Tempus was EN3, and I'm glad they didn't debut an actual EN3 around the same time, doubling the total number of EN HoloPro talents in a single year. No way I coulda kept up with thatI hope the actual EN3 comes out next summer so that Tempus gets the same time in the light Myth and Councilrys did
>>39035193not many views > 0 views
>>39036623Lazy hack. >>39036591
>>39036543Do I need to make a zatsul/supacha reading to normal stream chart only to prove that Kiara does the most zatsu/supacha reading? Do you even watch streams?
>>39036591
>>39035368Burnt out, again.
>>39036612but EN3 will definitely happen right?
>>39036591>>39036623basedneed time catch up all the vods anyway
Mumei you fucking monkey
>>39036536The question without an answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfhXe364ORY
>>39036668But saying her streams are just superchat readings when she'll still do six hours of gaming before hand is just lying.
>>39036483Many of them said or hinted at going to Japan on december, Gura even said there was a possibility she had to go at the end of november. None of that happened and there isn't even a slight hint of them going to Japan now and it's the middle of the month, with half of them sick.
>>39035472Come on Square just give EN FF perms. Mori did that shill stream for you.
>>39036623I can't believe that comment got so many updoots. I watch Hololive because of the girls. It's like going to a strip bar then all of a sudden men came out on stage shaking their bulges in my face.
Just got off work. >850+ repliesWhat happened?
>>39035286B-But, the boys...
>>39036623I agree with the sentiment. I watch my oshi and Tempus and have a good time
>>39036770we're all gonna watch THIS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBY4-KOhi3E
>>39036596This is the correct answer
What the fuck were those noises, Kaela? Is this why she's so popular?
>>39036770seething about Reddit posts and EN3 begging again
>>39036764Not everyone watches Hololive as a sexual gratification thing
>>39036577Why does she refuse to put unarchived in the title? It was the same shit wit the gobble gobble which most people didn't even know was a karaoke.
>>39036814kek, yeah
>>39036078They probably would have had default EN too if Kiara hadn’t picked the artist
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1603537843133255680https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1603537843133255680https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1603537843133255680BIG NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA094o05HUsFuck you Gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA094o05HUsThere's your Gura content for the week
>>39036798
>>39036798You could pay me enough to watch that garbage, but it would be in the 5 digits
>>39036596The only reason I still have hope for EN3 is that the faster they get out the faster Omega can fast-track StarsEN2
>>39036855>singing for 2k subsdumb bird
>>39036893>>39036894>privateHuh?
>>39036162If I click on mix it normally gives me 50/50 odds of ending up on the topic version but if it goes on a song without an MV the ones after will all be topic version.
>>39036893kek, 12 views, 7 hours ago
>>39036764That's the worst example you could've used.
>>39036934She said the goal might change since she only wants to sing as much as possible.
>>39036623I agree fellow listener, I do enjoy watching our livers, Tempus!They go so well with our other livers from Nijisanji!
>>39036960You mean unlisted? It's because it's an advent calendar entry, they're all unlisted
>>39036960Unlisted, and it's for Kiara's shit so they're always unlisted.>>39036967Nigger it JUST got put up and now officially out as of a minute ago on the webstie
>>39035472Well, it should hopefully give some buff with her Mama being the main artist for the game. Hopefully, she takes advantage of that with her titles.
>>39036960works on my machine
>thread still not archived Grim day on /vt/
>>39036814i mean, have you met her multiple personalities? there's >DA MONKEY and the UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH voice and some others
>>39036894>>39036893chummies can feel their wallets tingling
>>39036854What? My point was going somewhere expecting something but receiving something else is not only dumb for accepting it but ruins the experience.
>>39036997>>39036998Yeah that's what i meant but, why tho?
>>39036967>Gura is a 2viewIt's over...
>>39036770Nothing, that’s the problem.
>>39036893>>39036894she sounds so sick bros...I forgive her
>>39036798I'd rather watch Mori
>>39037066They're meant to be viewed on Kiara's website. If they were public, they'd get a huge influx of chumbie views who probably don't even know about the advent calendar.
>>39037066Because you are meant to watch it through the advent calendar
>>39036893>>39036894She still sounds pretty sick to be honest.
>>39037066Because it's for the advent calendar and they want to be able to upload it whenever they can without people seeing it until it's officially out. Fauna's had hers uploaded a full day before it got put on Kiara's site.
>>39025779big money? How is the collab structured?
>>39037066austrian 'tism
>>39036934
>>39037127No she sounds like she doesn't give a fuck
>>39037105>>39037111>>39037129>>39037160Nahone. Still dumb idea tho.
>>39037127Yeah, sick of streaming.
>>39037226I mean, that's the whole point. Might as well not make it then
>>39037226Nah it's finehttps://youtu.be/kUK-hMXl1Co
>>39037226Does Bagua know what an advent calendar is?
>>39037041Well it's a bad analogy
>>39036855>>39036577why don't sing til 7 (na) 7 (na) 4 (shi) and bring some nip tourists?
Ah, this will be fun to GRIMpost about.There is almost 15 DAYS until 1 year has passed since the Permanent EN auditions opened up https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1476445784862498816
>>39037226https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advent_calendarIt's pretty popular and a Christmas tradition in a large part of Europe.
>>39036893I can detect the sickness in her voice. Sounds phlegmy. I knew she had a good reason to be absent.
>>39037078>>39037127she sounds like shes reading off a script bored, not sick what the fuck are you fags hearing
>>39037344she has the vid
>>39036975How about going to a taco joint expecting tacos but they only have hotdogs left? kek
>>39037378she sounds sick and low energy, try removing your "i must hate gura no matter what" filter for a moment
>>39037344There's another thing often found in a young woman's throat that sounds like phlegm.
>>39037296No, I think it's funny enough to get the point across but morons like you had to make it weird.
>>39037297>Karaoke to get over 10k subsThat would end up in failure
>>39037329This was clearly stealth aimed for homos otherwise they wouldn't have debuted Tempiss first.
>>39037425According to the Bae/Kronii sandwich review stream, a hotdog is a taco
watch blue homo unarchive karaoke dipshit
>>39037467still sounds like a half baked attempt.
>>39037512Mucus
>>39036893>>39036894What the hell, she's still sick? Or maybe this was recorded last week
>>39037564lmao
>>39037564sorry, i only watch Axel
>>39037530I haven't watched those two in months. Ina died and somehow I'm a sapling now.
>>39037564You couldn't make me even if you were armed and dangerous, I know kendo and could defeat you instantly with my cold steel
>>39037564I don't like his singing style
>>39036136>Cover delayed Myth's 3D debuts once againEven if they did, what the fuck is the point? A "3D debut" for Myth was a waste of effort after 3rd Fes. At this point its just laughable.
>>39037564Is he the one that is horrid live or is that the orange dumbass?
>>39037564what is this
>>39029940Ina being totally silent makes it much worse than Miko's 90day break from a fan perspective.I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes a shitter now, people just aren't going to look. I predict a 20k return, but after a few streams her average will be 5k.
>>39037564his glimpse of us sounded like shitI'm out
>>39037745Injoke that his 900 floor views no doubt found hilarious
>>39037749Ina entered in a coma after eating the thanksgiving turkey
>>39037745It's a worm... With a shell.
>>39037749anon you can't tweet during maternity leave
>>39037745He's ripping off the seminal Kiara work, "Am frog", with "me snail". Derivative.
>>39037749No. She's going to get her people back and push Fauna back to being a 6k shitter
>>39037841Fun fact: Thanksgiving was over 6 months ago. Feel old yet?
>>39037564He only sings sad boys songs so no.
>>39037745He made the rigging?
>>39036291How retarded do you have to be to unironically make a post like this
>>39037981These people don't count as full humans
>>39037981>downvoteloser
>>39037749I do fucking wonder what's going on through her head. She made this post and then fucked off. She said she'd consider twitter spaces and nothing. She's said she'd maybe pop up in her waiting room chat and FUCKING NOTHING.Like does she even care? Does she even give the slightest bit of a shit?
>>39037976Apparently, I think it would have worked better on a joke stream than in a Karaoke but whatever It's Tempus
>>39038083I'm willing to give her a pass as long as she doesn't pop up on her RM socials. She obviously chose to go cold turkey for one reason or another.
>>39037226https://holoen-advent.comWatch streams man.
>>39038083>does she even care?no
>>39038083Pretty sure she already made her decision to graduate.Tweeting stuff would be needlessly cruel when you take that into account.
>>39025921Probably because they deem they have a better chance of success by asking for individual games rather than blanket perms