/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

sokka sokka

polka ero

Why didn't Polka just speak with a perfect british accent?

>>3899337
I know right? It's KILLING me.

imagine the stench...

>>3899337
Half of all words that come out of her mouth are actually made up. Even JP bros can't understand her. This way everyone is guaranteed the same viewing experience no matter what language you speak.

>>3896978
god polka is so cute I just want to bury my face in her thighs and lick them while she calls me names, she has the best design ive ever seen in a vtuber

Polka is so fucking based, why won't HoloEN collab with her...

I'm a native English speaker and I probably won't ever learn a 2nd language. Does English actually have any sounds that are difficult for ESLs to pronounce? I know that Japanese is extremely limited in sounds, so any language that isn't their own probably sounds fucking mental. But from what I can see English seems really tame compared to something like German or I don't know.. Hungarian (just as random examples)? If Japanese struggle with English so much how the fuck would they cope with other languages.

>>3900922
Consonants strung together is probably the most difficult like STR. This is not a Japan only phenomenon. Many languages work using consonant-vowel

>>3900975
So, like the THR in Thread? I didn't know it would be difficult. But it makes sense now that I think about it.

>>3900922
fuck "squirrel"
t. German

>>3901064
Skvivuel

>>3896978
She should eat a dango

>>3900922
ESL teacher here, yes, English can be very difficult to pronounce. Our vowels are inconsistent, virtually all are dipthongs, and we don't follow a consonant-vowel construction like a lot of languages do.

Now, Polka is also exquisitely bad at English, but that's part of why she's great.

>>3901064
Words like squirrel and mirror are a bastard to pronounce. I can see why burgers had to fuck with the pronunciation so much to finally say it.

"Squirl"
"Meer"

>>3900922
>>3901052
Yeah I struggle to make the "th" sound natural. I guess practice would make it easier. Most "soft" sounds are difficult to do for a Spanish speaker (like the "r" in "previously" or "crime")

>>3900922
Bro your language doesn't have a clear set of rules on how you should pronounce vocals, any ESLfag who is learning English has this problem and the nips have also a limited amount of syllables that they can use

>>3900922
I guess the easiest way to describe it is that languages like Spanish and Japanese are digital while English is analogue. If an English speaker says anything in Spanish it tends to be too "curved" and if a Spanish speaker says anything in English it tends to be "stiff"

>>3901176
What do you mean ESL-chama, how can you not tell the difference from stuff like lead and lead from context?

>>3900922
English has a relatively high amount of phonemes due to it whoring itself around so much, so there's always going to be something that trips an ESL. For more typical examples, you have some of our "r" related sounds which are pretty rare in language, which is why it fucks up so many people so hard. "th" is also pretty uncommon, which is why a lot of accents even among native english itself end up replacing it with "d", eg deez nuts.

>>3901415
my favourite reduction of "th" is the Yorkshire 't
So "I'm going to the shops" becomes "I'm going to 't shops" or more commonly "Going 't shop"

>>3900922
Never could get the 'th' down pat.

>>3901242
>If an English speaker says anything in Spanish it tends to be too "curved" and if a Spanish speaker says anything in English it tends to be "stiff"
That's a great analogy to be honest. English speakers who speak in Spanish sound like they have a bar of soap stuck in their mouth. Spanish speakers who speak English sound like they're a morse code machine reading from an instruction manual.

>>3901529
"'Am goin up 't shop to paint for 't livin room"
Did I do it right?

English is basically what Esperanto wanted to be

>>3901127
All them anglo and whatever languages are so fucking retarded, like the french for example with their bullshit.
Bird was like oiseaux or some shit like that but it's pronounced wazoo

>>3901741
More like, "Goin' t' shop paint for si''in room"

>>3901783
"Sex" in German is "Der Geschlechtsverkehr"

>>3901829
No that's like "the sexual intercourse" or some shit like that, been ages since I needed German, they just like their compound words

>>3901884
It's still a pretty funny language. The literal translation of hospital (krankenhaus) is "suffer house" and I can't help but laugh when I read that

>>3900922
English is one of the harder languages to learn. Its a mismash of old norse, old english and old french. It doesnt have strict conventions in structure and a lot of it seems to be made up on the fly. Further English has a ton of slang and now even memes have trickled into every day speak. Along with that English has a lot of distinct accents that can make learning even more difficult (imagine a new english speaker trying to talk with a hillbilly from the deep south)

>>3902030
Hard would be Japanese, with their 15 million character alphapbet. With english it's just

>Okay you know all 26 letters?
>Okay you can read and spell anything.

>>3902030
english isn't hard, the words that aren't pronounced as they're written are actually a minority

>>3902030
English isn't hard, it's just retarded

>>3896978
holoEN is a fucking mistake

>>3902290
People say the same about Japanese. At the core it's easy. But there are some extremely retarded things about it, and that's even putting Kanji aside. Which I will argue to the death is pathetically retarded and has no place in modern language, and should have been scrapped at the same time the Korean's did.

>>3902506
I heard that Kanji is helpful for making you look smarter, just as having a wide vocabulary is in other languages. I also heard that writing without kanji is the same as writing without spaces in english.

>>3902506
>People say the same about Japanese
Because it's true. I'm a dumbass and it took me like a week to learn how to read Hiragana/Katakana and I was able to form basic sentences. As soon as I had to learn Kanji I gave up, I don't have time to deal with that shit.

>>3900922
English is inconsistent in pronunciation since it’s multiple languages mashed together. English also has “th” which is rare and hard to pronounce for ESLs. Contrast to JP, where they have consistent pronunciation, no letters (only syllables), no V, and no L. They really couldn’t be any more incompatible

>5 vowels
>17 vowel sounds

It's a language learnt from repetition. Any word you haven't heard yet you assume how it should sound based on previous knowledge. A native should be able to easily tell apart hat, hut and hot but for an ESL they sound too similar.

>>3899866
patented miko classic.

>>3902030
How many languages do you speak? EOPs don't even know what gendered words, conjugations or inflections are

>>3903035
The other day Polka said she couldn't understand Miko at first but she's getting better at it

>>3903398
It’s a bit funny watching chuubas babyvoice duolingo and get marked wrong

>>3901783
>all them anglo and whatever languages
>like the french for example.

You need to do your linguistic reps anon. English is Germanic and French is Latin; two completely unrelated language families. There is no 'anglo' language.

Despite what pride you no doubt derive from what a presume is a US-German heritage: Anglos, Germanics and Scandinavians are linguistic, genetic and cultural cognates.

poruka owaruka

>>3900922
Fuck "literature"
t. kebab

>>3902594
>I also heard that writing without kanji is the same as writing without spaces in english.
Kind of. It certainly makes it easier to read a sentence since you know where each word starts or ends at first sight.
Also, Kanji instantly tells you the meaning of the word, whereas kana does not. You have to get it from the context.

>>3904170
owaruka poruka

>>3901961
no, "suffer house" would be something like "Leidhaus".
"Krankenhaus" is "sick house" or "ill house" as in "house for the sick/ill".

>>3896978
Polka birthing position.

>>3905575
Oh I always thought that it meant "suffer". I should just shut up

>>3904170
>>3904881
polka is finished?

>>3900922
>Does English actually have any sounds that are difficult for ESLs to pronounce?
Yes, every language does. How hard it is to learn a language isn't static. Depending on which languages you know, it's easier or harder to learn. Japanese is among one of the worst starting points to learn English.

Aloe was built for this.

>>3900922
>to something like German
Japanese people actually have an easier time learning german in a vacuum because, while it has a shit ton of rules and is an almost overly complex language on a grammatical level, it's also clearly defined and highly cohesive from a phonetic perspective.

>>3902229
>Okay you can read and spell anything.

If that were true dictionaries wouldn't have phonetic transcription examples. English consonants are soft rules and english vowels are barely more than polite suggestions.

>>3900922
World is a pain in the ass to pronounce
t. Portuguese speaker

>I want to breed Polka
I want to breed Polka
>I want to breed Polka
I want to breed Polka
>I want to breed Polka
I want to breed Polka
>I want to breed Polka
I want to breed Polka

>>3902506
>>3902655
stop coping and do your reps

>>3899662

>>3896978
I'm gonna fuck that clown

>Houston
>it's actually pronounced as Hillston
I seethe everytime.

English probably did have solid rules at one point, but so many other latin languages have been incorporated that at this point you have to guess the origin of the word in order to try to pronounce it correctly.

>>3900922
At least pronounciation wise german is in my opinion way easier than english. In general words are pronounced literally the way they are written, with a few small exceptions you have to learn, like ei, ch or sch.
Now compare that to shit like ache, attache and cache, where the same four letters have completely different pronounciations.

>>3908728
What? The city is pronounced Hew-Ston, while the neighbourhood in NY is pronounced house-ton.

>>3902258
That really depends on what you call "pronounced as written". English has a lot of ways to pronounce a single vowel and many words with different spelling are pronounced very similarly (think of reed, read present and past tense, red, rad, rat) - I think this is on par with kanji having different pronunciations, except it seems more retarded for kanji because there are so many of them, but the pronunciation (pitch accents aside) is for the most part phonetically consistent. >>3902229 puts it very well.
>>3909169
Some Germans pronounce ch and g as if they were interchangeable, words starting with ch used to be pronounced as if starting with a K ("Kina" instead of China). st and sp are extremely inconsistent unless you live in North Germany, where they are pronounced as written, not sht or shp.

>>3909510
>English has a lot of ways to pronounce a single vowel and many words with different spelling are pronounced very similarly (think of reed, read present and past tense, red, rad, rat) - I think this is on par with kanji having different pronunciations
you're crazy, dealing with a few weirdly pronounced words is so much easier than kanji

>>3902229
>With english it's just
>Okay you know all 26 letters?
>Okay you can read and spell anything.
no, far from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zWWp0akUU

>>3906363
Thank god someone in this thread isn’t retarded

>>3909719
this just sounds like Swedish

>>3909644
Probably yes, to the extent people will still understand you if you mix up the pronounciations. Most of the time it is not detrimental if you get them wrong - you can get away with being completely unable to use some phonemes, such as pronouncing [th] correctly.
I have no clue how detrimental a mixup of kunyomi and onyomi readings is. But I don't think it's impossible to understand, surely native school children must mix this up too?

>>3908283
ez for me
git gud
I'll deal with english's bullshit anyday over memorizing kanji and their readings

>>3901176

>"thought"

>>3908728
I see your struggle and raise you some UK place names and their correct pronunciation.

>Teignmouth
Tin-muth

>Bicester
Bis-ter

>Hunstanton
Hun-ston

>Southwell
Suth-ul

>Leominister
Lemster

>Happisbrugh
Hays-bruh

>Gloucester
Glos-ter

>Belvoir Castle
Beaver Castle

>>3910283
Kanji isn't even hard. Just use heisig so that you can at least identify one from another, and then pick up the readings as you go. It's not like you're brute forcing the on and kun readings with them, that shit comes naturally when you become literate.

>>3900922
>Does English actually have any sounds that are difficult for ESLs to pronounce
r/l and v/b is an issue for Japanese natives for obvious reasons
>>3902030
not to mention shitloads of loanwords outside of those three in general that might inherit their original pronunciation or be completely different. Japan at least has katakana to force a square peg into a circle hole there.

>>3900922
ESL here who is also studying jap
Your language is a meme, every word is pronounced diferent you have to guess 99% of the time. Also for japs its more easy to learn spanish or portuguese than germanic/english languages

>>3909719
The amount of effort it must have taken to record this, holy shit.
>>3910105
I would say it's much closer to Dutch after he pronounces e phonetically consistent, and then it sounds like https://youtu.be/Vt4Dfa4fOEY except in french.
>>3910424
This. It certainly takes a while to learn a good chunk of them, but you just "know" the readings at some point. If you can intuitively apply one flavour of arbitrary rules correctly, you can learn to use another one.

>>3910424
Yeah the difficult of Kanji is because of how time you need. EOP see that you need 2k+Kanjis to survive in Nippon and they get afraid but they dont remember that Japs literally start learning Kanji since they are 7 years old and its something that they should study all their lives (The elderly keep learning Kanji because it helps to keep dementia away)

>>3910241
>I have no clue how detrimental a mixup of kunyomi and onyomi readings is

Japanese is pretty consistent about whether you use the kunyomi or onyomi, about as consistent as english is with the sounds its constants make(or don't).

You use the onyomi if it's jukugo(basically a word that uses more than one kanji, similar to a compound word in english)
Else you use kunyomi

Obviously there's exceptions, but you learn those growing up similar to how you learn ph is pronounced f in english, and 95% of the time it won't steer you wrong. The only real exception is the names of people and places which use any damn reading they please(similar to how english vowels make any sound they want). But then again, whenever you see a new name introduced in most media, it comes with furigana on top of it

>>3909644
>a few weirdly pronounced words

If by "a few" you mean all. Vowels are completely arbitrary in english since they're 20 different sounds condensed down to five letters(and more than half the time they're not even the same letter). The only reason it makes any sense to you is because you've learned and memorized 95% of the words you commonly encounter over the course of growing up.

The english alphabet is basically a glorified abjab.

>>3910686
>If by "a few" you mean all.
By a few I do mean a few, not all. The comparison to kanji is completely insane.

>>3901415
Even for all the trouble it causes 'th' is very beautiful to me and one of the best sounds in any language, imo.
Thee old tither to o'er there and here and for old father on the english aisles for'ere more.
Æthelwulf forever more there

I wonder what non native speakers think of the sound. It reminds me of home, of family, of heart, if that makes any sense.

>>3910774
Anonymous, I know you're over your head here as a likely monolingual, but I'll try to break it down as someone who knows both.

When you learn a word in english, you have to memorize the spelling because there is literally no way to guess which vowel applies(let alone rarer stupid shit like "silent" consonants). There are patterns yes, but the sheer act of knowing which of multitude of patterns _probably_ applies requires a shitload of memorization. There is reason you have spelling tests all through elementary school.

Meanwhile, when you learn a kanji, you learn that it's also made up of patterns. In japanese these are called radicals, and learning kanji is pretty much the exact same shit of learning where these patterns go. And guess what? You stop learning kanji individually after elementary school in japan because while yes, you've only got half the kanji you're going to need to know by time you're an adult under your belt, you've pretty much mastered most of the patterns you're going to need to learn the next thousand over three years, so go get em tiger. Pretty much the exact same shit as with english and spelling.

The difference is you only need to memorize 2.5k kanji, while you need to memorize the spelling of 25000 words.

>>3911123
>When you learn a word in english, you have to memorize the spelling because there is literally no way to guess which vowel applies
And I'm telling you that the words where this is considerably divergent from how the word is written are the minority. For everything else, even if you pronounce something in a slightly unusual way, you'll still be perfectly understandable. Meanwhile kanji is a complete clusterfuck as the core of the entire language.

>>3910686
>Japanese is pretty consistent about whether you use the kunyomi or onyomi, about as consistent as english is with the sounds its constants make(or don't).
That's the vibe I was getting. Arbitrary but possible to develop an intuition for. And thanks for formulating the rule. Now if I only remembered which reading is which...

>>3910686
it's a non issue because we have so many dialects. tomato tomato -- tah-mah-doe toh-may-toe
vowel sound really doesnt matter much for most words. sure you may sound silly to some, like a brit in america, but you'll be understandable.

it's a shit cope. there is little to no need to memorize every word's vowels. cah car cawr. Talk tahlk etc etc etc.
are you trying to speak perfect standard english or someshit? because that will take lots of effort for almost anyone.

it's really baffling to see ESLs treat wants as needs in the acquisition of english. no, you don't need literally perfect grammar 24/7. no, you don't have to know the standard english pronunciation of every single word. no, you don't need to match the exact english of whoever you're talking to. for fucks sake some EOPs are so extreme nobody can understand them, most people can't even understand scotts.
english is a lingua franca with so many variations that the idea of consistent phonetics is laughable. learn to understand english and be understood, then be happy.

>>3902229

>>3911236
So your argument is that it doesn't matter if an english person can't accurately spell a word they've heard, since they can make somewhat of an approximation of a word they've read that might be off, but an educated person could guess what they meant?

Guess what? The majority of kanji have phonetic components so a japanese speaker could do the same

>>3911355
How the fuck is that the same thing? You can't "guess" a kanji, you either know it or you don't.

>>3900922
Rusky here, when I read Botan is going to learn to speak "the great and the mighty" language, I was like wtf, why would you torture yourself so. English is stupid and full of bullshit, but it's nowhere near Russian in terms of illogical shit a foreigner will never understand, like arbitrarily gendered words, the classic "stands/sits/lies" crap and a whole bunch of rules which have exceptions upon exceptions. I'm glad she took an interest in Russian/Soviet culture and occasionally panders to slavs, but I pray for her sanity she wasn't serious about learning the language.

>>3911123
Were dihd yew get thaht idea?
Honestly you can completely understand the above sentence, yes? Now try guessing how a kanji will look for a word you have yet to learn. Yes, some faggot will correctly state it's 'wrong' to spell like that, but I understand you and you understand me, even if you do it completely based on what you think English should be spelled like.

Frankly I don't care much about proper English outside've poetry, books, and business. And in the former two examples often you must break many spelling and grammatical constructions in order to make a book compelling and sucessful in conveying ideas.

>>3911473
>Were dihd yew get thaht idea?

Nice job changing 1 vowel, the exact thing I was talking about

More Wier dehd yue giht thet idiuh?

Lot harder now, ain't it?

>>3911564
Thet? What kind of retard would expect 'E', as it sounds in the alphabet, to be in 'that'?
I said spell as you think english should sound, based off the alphabet and it's most consistent phonetic patterns.

The Anon fighting on the side of kanji is massively grasping at straws. Please stop, you are embarrassing yourself.

>>3911623
>expect 'E', as it sounds in the alphabet

"E" as it sounds in the alphabet? The vowel part of "See"?

Which itself is the same vowel sound in "Ski" despite only the addition of another consonant sound?

>>3902229
the irony is its the other way around. theres like 52 sounds in nip and thats LITERALLY it. you can now pronounce anything

>>3911410
You actually can. A lot of Kanji(especially the pair kind, which are the most common) are made up an ideographic component which gives you a hint what the kanji is about and a phonetic component which gives you a hint how to say it, and given enough experience with the language you can usually identify which. For example 洞 and 銅.

If you know 洞窟 and you see 銅 and you're familiar with how 金 usually carries the idea of metals in kanji, then you can guess that the rest is the onyomi(どう), which it is.

I love this clown

you guys should read up on Shannon Information Entropy and how it relates to language. The argument that english is highly efficient is derivative of the fact that is has low entropy.
ive been learning japanese for about a year, and while i find kanji a lifesaving tool in this hell language, the characters carry a higher bitrate and thus the language has more entropy
the lowest possible entropy of jap is something like 1.5 bits/word, whereas english gets as low as 0.6 bits/word. the lower the value the more predictable (i.e. efficient) the language is

>>3911860
Why would I care? I said spell it as naturally as you want and everyone can understand you. Looking for every gotcha you can and then using it in place of natural expectations is fucking retarded. Nobody said English isn't inconsistent, my very point has to acknowlege that a priori to exist -- spelling english 'naturally', existing as an alternative method of spelling, means the current form is not natural.
Try to stop playing gotcha's for a second and calm your spastic ass down; I, as an English speaker, can understand any english speaker's writing given they know all basic patterns. The only exceptions to this are extremely divergent dialects like ebonics, and even den i do undastant it.

>>3912226
Look, I understand the angle you are getting at. But no matter how much you sugar coat it you are still defending how there is more simplicity in memorizing kanji. No matter what you say, people would much rather learn how to pronounce the odd spellings in English words than several thousand little pictures. Because it's ultimately much much easier.

>>3912226
Hints. Realize what you just said, hints. Any english speaker can write an understandable book with basic knowlege of the alphabet and vowel/constant combinations. Things like th, etc.
Can a japnese person do the same with a basic understanding of kanji radicals? Fuck this is way funnier now that I'm writing it lmao.

>>3912413
Spoiler: English spelling is only a hint as to how the word is said as well.

Actually, I'm out to go make dinner. Enjoy thinking kanji is some uncrackable cypher with no rhyme or reason compared to "natural" "simplicity" of english, you dumb monolinguals

>>3912521
Keep coping.

>come across an english word with a strange spelling
>I suppose I could make a few guesses. I'll come close enough and who knows, I might get lucky. Native speakers will still know what I mean.

>come across a kanji you have never seen before
>oh...

漢字愛してる!!!ローマ字嫌悪!!!

>>3912556
based

>>3912462
Dood. I kan writ(eh) wif gust mi axescent phonedikallie traynzslitarated
Again retard mic spergysen, anyonr with a basic understanding of the english alphabet, not the latin alphabet but just the english one, can write a book and be understood.
No more than thirty maybe forty sounds known in written form. All the latin characters, some vowel combos, th, etc. And that's it.
As said previously, mr sperg, the whole vowel thing is a non issue due to he massive amount of dialectical differences. Tahmahtoo toemaytoe. Either way ill understand you, no matter how fucked your dialect or accent is.

>>3911902
That's totally fair. Kanji is a right cunt of a writing system though.

>>3912521
I speak and write latin dumbass.

>>3912521
if they were to stop thinking that they wouldn't have an excuse for not putting actual effort into learning it

>>3912810
esl chama... i thought you were leaving

>>3912857
he really got to you, huh?

>>3902229
Say you knew how to read the latin alphabet, but is still a beginner at english. If you tell them, "you know the alphabet, so you can read english with no problems", how the fuck do you expect them to pronounce "rough", "colonel", "manoeuvre" and "thorough"

>>3912623
I think there is no point in both of you trying to have a wanking contest of how well you can understand someone _speaking_ when all you can do on a board is _ write_ about it. You don't need to know sounds or readings to write a book, and you don't need them to understand them.
Also, I don't know what
>axescent phonedikallie traynzslitarated
is supposed to mean.

>>3896978
bros what does her poop smell like? you think her menstrual blood has a nice aroma?

Timothy Dexter's retarded book is a great example of english's ease.

>>3900922
Yes, but in Japanese case it's a matter of not just phonology (the discrete sound units a language uses) but also phonotactics (the way words are put together). I'm SFL and currently studying Japanese, so I'll use all three languages and a couple more as a frame of reference.

The main problem you find with English-to-Japanese isn't just the sound system but the fact Japanese phonotactics are very, very simple. The Japanese sound system isn't all that small, but their syllable structure is canonically V and CV (V=Vowel, C=Consonant) with the major exceptions being the medial -y-, the final -n, the lengthening of consonants between vowels, and the lengthening of vowels. So to give you an example, the word "stress" in Japanese would be transliterated as "sotoressu" because Japanese does not allow for consonant clusters; on the other hand Spanish, which is genetically related to English and has retained plenty of the same rules from Proto-Indo-European, would transliterate it as "estrés" because while it allows for the /str/ cluster and final /s/, it doesn't allow for /s/ clusters at the start of words or long consonants.

But you also have to take into account that transliterating loan words also isn't a since and it's subject to cultural and historical customs. For example, the modern word for Christian in Japanese is "kurisutyan"; but if you ever learn a bit about the Sengoku period you'll find that there used to be people called the "kirisitan", Japanese Christians converted by Catholic missionaries when Westerners first arrived to Japan, who were eventually persecuted by the Shogunate. Obviously both are just renderings of the same word, but since then the customs have changed due to the larger exposure to English Japanese has gone through. You'll find for example that 'th' from English is rendered as /s/, but the exact same consonant in a Greek or Old Norse word will be rendered as /t/. At the same time Japanese has a specific way to write /v/ in loanwords, despite the fact Japanese people can't distinguish it from /b/. So when speaking English, Japanese people *already* have certain specific habits that are unique to Japanese when speaking English loanwords.

There's also the fact that while they might not just be used to distinguish certain sounds. This isn't just a matter of pronouncing ability, but hearing ability as well. To give you a concrete example, you can check Coco's recent Spanish duolingo streams, and you'll notice that she will constantly confuse /l/, /r/ and /r:/. Coco is obviously capable of distinguishing between /l/ and /r/, and although Spanish /r/ and /r:/ aren't the same as in English, Japanese can articulate both of them separately on command. But Coco isn't used to *hearing* these three specific consonants being different from each other, even though she can pronounce them and she can distinguish between English /l/ and /r/.

>>3903205
You make up half our county. Of course we know what gendered words are.

>>3904205
litter itcher lit richer

>>3905979
*poruka owaruka?

>>3916075
Damn, Brighton Beach is THAT bad?

>>3909510
Most of those come down to dialects though. Obviously dialects are different. In high german, everything is pronounced as written except for a few letter combinations. Even st and sp are consistent: sht and shp if the word starts with those two letters, otherwise st.
You're right about ch though. it's the most inconsistent out of all of them, at the beginning of words it can be a K (Chor, Christus) under certain circumstances. Even in the middle of words it can sound different (acht vs ich).

>>3899926
I mean she did collab with Kiara, which brought us this lovely little moment
https://youtu.be/dtDBS2VtoLY

>>3900922
EOP here, aren't English and Japanese pretty much polar opposites in terms of their structure and everything?

>>3912556
Personally, I'm more of a noodles guy.

>>3914787

>>3900922
There's no "th" sound in my native language so most ESLs from here pronounced it "d" or "z".