/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3897436
RIP NIJISANJI

You guys want a real rrat? Okay, here's a real rrat.

https://files.catbox.moe/8hvbo7.PNG

Summarized translation: A 5ch user, claiming to be involved with the HoloAlt PV, posted two days ago that the new PV would be announced on Wednesday. That part just came true. He also said that the second EN generation would be unveiled as part of the PV

>>3897738
I want to belieb

>>3897738
Alright, I'll believe this rrat.

No mas! No mas! You already obliterated Nijisanji EN with schizo Kiara and sleepy Ina. They can't take another salvo.

Been a little over 3 months since the last teaser and this will be teaser PV but a full version of it. Will Alternative deliver? I still want that 2D anime, even if Alternative is not going to be that.

>>3897738
Seems like more of an educated guess since NijiEn premiered. Auditions were around the same time but Vsingers should be coming out before EN2 Legends or whatever they are going to call it. I think late this month or early next month are the likely times to announce when it's coming.

>>3897738
NOW THIS IS RRAT SIMULATOR

>>3897436
>>3897738
>Holoalt as a whole killing NijiJP
>HoloEN killing NijiEN
Yep, Niji is literally done for.

>>3897738
that's bullshit but i'll believe it

>>3897738
OGEY

>>3897738
I can't imagine a crueler way to fuck over NejiEN.

>>3897738
>second EN generation would be unveiled as part of the PV
Announced maybe. Unveiled? absolutely not.

>>3897738
Nijisanji just got cummed on by Hololive

>>3897738
Is it a reveal for a new gen that he assumes is EN 2nd gen because he forgot about vsingers or is it actually EN 2nd gen

>>3898102
It's already been announced. The submissions were asked for publicly.

>>3897738
YAGOO, stop! They are already dead!

>>3897738
>NijiEN debuts
>didn't fly as high as HoloEN, but they are doing reasonably well and one or two meme moments could get them inclining
>COVER: Not on my fucking watch, Kaigai-Nikki here's a PV, a new song by our rapper reaper, a new EN gen and a fuckton of lore projects which are not porn doujins and this is also going to go even more multimedia in the future.

>>3898114
EN doesn't have official generations so the vsingers might very well be en gen 2 as far as cover is concerned

>>3898109
Hot

>>3897738
> the second EN generation would be unveiled as part of the PV

UUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH

>>3898182
Yagoo, you madlad!
Spittin' on Tazumi's grave.

>>3898214
I hope for more cute and funny girls!

>>3897738
>NijiEN just debuted
>Cover announces EN2
Corporate competition is ruthless

Cope. HoloEN 2 will just be a disaster and niji will just siphon the views away.

>>3897738
>He also said that the second EN generation would be unveiled as part of the PV
that would steal all of niji's thunder, which honestly feels like fucking bullying and isn't okay.

>>3898279
i will savor the seething when each member from EN2 gets 150K subs before debut

I hope holoEN Gen 2 has a spider chuuba.

>>3898297
lol this. Gura had 500K before her first fucking stream and all she did was say "a". Every indie put a gun in their mouth when they saw that.

>>3898182
>which are not porn doujins
what a disappointment

>>3898297
That they will then lose after a disastrous reveal. When people realize how cringe the new girls are they will just watch Niji instead.

>>3898271
>>3898291
Hah just like blizzard timing wow expansions with the release of new mmos in the good old days

>>3897738
imagine investing thousands into making an animation for new gen only for them to get Hitomi'd. I really doubt they'd be that bold.

>>3898291
Divine retribution to Tazumi for not thinking ahead in the 5D chess match.

>>3898331
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>3898304
Arachnophobia nibbas:
Welp.

>>3898331
Someone post the brap clip

>>3898331
Seethe Nijinigger, SEETHE

>>3897436
>2.5k waiting
Holy shit

>>3897738
Cover has no mercy for competition...
I kneel

>>3898182
Jesus fuck Yagoo, they're already dead...

>>3897738
Pic related is the first thing NijiEN sees when they wake up the next day.

>>3897738
Announcing new talent in that anime PV would be genius, after all, everyone in the vtuber world will be watching.

>>3898279
they just need to make them cover new grounds and not overlap with gen 1. have one specialized in carpentry, and another in computer programing.

>>3897738
Is there seriously enough time between finalising the designs for gen 2 and making 2d animation? Or is it just the vsinger? Or an announcement?

Also, isn’t it possible to narrow down exactly who this leaker is...? Unless it’s a huge team that worked on it.

>>3898291
>feels like fucking bullying and isn't okay
It's competition between companies not bullying retarded

>NijiEN release
>They can't even break 100k subs during debut week
>Debut streams with clearly lower concurrent viewers than gurame podcast
>Somehow holofags are STILL scared shitless of them >>3898271
>They falseflag using NijiEN to jerk each other off >>3898279
What do you call this again? Rent free? You fags really need to relax a bit.

>>3898331
NijiEN debut was delayed cuz a big star quit during her NijiEN training to join EN2. Source: My diamond penis

Hello Intern-kun here. Yesterday I snuck in a comment in Global about this and I've delivered again. Also, from what I've heard from management, our new EN VSinger will be announced after the teaser. The date of announcement might change but expect it this week or early next week.

>>3897738
You're so fucking shameless you attention seeking retard.

>>3898279
People thought HoloEN was going to be a disaster and guess what

>>3898457
>big star
don't leave us hanging, bro

>>3898452
>>3898279
Cope seethe and dilate

>>3898367
inb4 arachnophobia peeps develop an M kink for spider woman, better yet, SPIDER MILF

>>3898291
Shouldn't have messed with Aloe, karma is a bitch.

>>3898475
Information deserves to be free

>>3897738
Does that mean... we have our alt main villans now?

>>3898508
>some global shit trying to make out like he found this "rrat".
Anyone who says "rrat" for narratives should immediately shoot themselves with a shotgun.

>>3898459
Not believing you or anything, but if true then why are you all leaking this shit lmfao does cover not sign non disclosure forms or shit

>>3898291
Welcome to the free market bitch

>>3898142
I mean like debut date announced.

How many months until Nijisanji declares bankruptcy and is sold off to Cover Corporation?

>>3898279
>>3898331
blatant falseflagging

>>3898517
ogey

>>3897738
>nijiEN who?

If holoAlt became successful and took off in JP and Global, I sure hope Cover gets better investors for their future projects and Ichikara's investors retreating

>>3898517
Seethe until you clench your butthole bloody, this board is global territory. Crawl back to your squatters den if you don't like what you see here

>>3898518
It doesn't exist in Japan.

>>3898518
Lol anonymous website lol

I think Cover is getting too cocky. The momentum is too much and any screw up right now can seriously hard the company. If this fails Niji will have a fighting chance.

>>3898619
>If this fails Niji will have a fighting chance
Keep dreaming

>>3898619
>can seriously hard the company
You're right, they are hard as a diamond as right now.

>>3897723
#rentfree

>>3898517
ogey.

>>3897738
Wouldn't it make sense it's going to be the JP 6th gen instead? It's already more than 6 months since the last gen debuted and afaik Hololive used to debut a new gen every six months.

>>3898459
Based intern-kun,share that juicy stuff about HoloEN 2 wil you? Any big hitter like gura?

>>3898616
lol lol lol lol dickhead

>>3898182
Damn, Tanigo came to KILL today.

>>3898683
I think Cover realizes it's more prudent to wait for actual quality talent. They've found a lot of diamonds in the rough, but a lot of stinkers too. Why would you want to risk another Mel, Choco, or Anya?

Once the doxx comes out for the new gen and one of them is a tranny or nigger it's over Holos.

>>3898683
Did they even recruit for gen 6? Or is JP no longer doing open recruitments like for EN and ID and instead just headhunting?

>replying to blatant falseflag
ISHYGDDT

>>3898683
Cover has said they are going to focus more on restructuring their main branch since they grew too much last year for the staff to handle. So they will slow down new generations of JP.

>>3898585
Non disclosure or confidentiality doesn’t exist in any capacity in any business? You sure?

This is Offtopic but INA's birthday is coming this week.

>>3898672
Cope

>>3898541
Any color rebranding is a start.

>>3898693
Yes pink gura will join

>>3898726
But Mel is getting better, her number is rising up really quickly right now after the banpocalypse and she also begins to take Hololive seriously. as

>>3898732
What if it's a latinx seanigger nigger who's also enby MtF trans with autism?

>>3898774
If anything rebranding means that they are growing more.

>>3898802
That's good, she's beginning to recover. But she still had nearly two years of stagnation, and Choco is 100% still wallowing in it following her inability to be a skank on YooToob.

>>3898804
the board will melt and it would be hilarious to see holofags cope

>>3898767
Wah!
We celebrate on Niji's grave!

>dude NijiEN!

Rent free in every thread.

>>3898836
>>3898804
lol this board doesn't even watch the one confirmed tranny tuber already (Artemis). Why would Cover shoot themselves in the foot?

>>3898782
My boner died, man.

>>3898761
It exists but most of the time, especially in the anime industry it is based on the system of trust.

>>3898693
I'm not part of the recruiting team and they've kept a tight lip on anything related to EN 2 but it won't be hard to ask a friend from that department

>>3897436
HOLY DIAMONDS, I'M FULL HYPE

>>3898782
/vt/ would implode so hard it would create a singularity.

>>3898475

You know I still feel kinda bad for the Homostars. They wont even be included in the biggest thing their parent company has ever done.

>>3897738
YOUR RRAT IS TOO POWERFUL ANOCHAMA

>>3898933
If you feel bad, how do you think they feel? Those poor saps are lepers as far as Cover is concerned, and would probably dissolve the whole branch if they thought they could get away with it.

>>3898182
>a new song by our rapper reaper
And dropped.

>>3898958
Never, Yagoo loves his boys more than any of the whorolivers.
Save for his daughter.
It's just the rest of the company that doesn't.

>>3898933
they need to make a shitty MSpaint animation for them. it'll be on par with how much they cared for Homostar 3d model.

>>3898986
Maybe they can make the hands even bigger this time around

>>3898983
Caught yagoo watching tenma stream today.

>>3898983
Then why are they all suffering with shitty cardboard cutout models, receive zero promotion, and are completely banned from collabing with the main branch?

>>3899016
FBK just collabed with oga today?

>>3898958
That's very unlikely, Yagoo are pretty friendly with them, and interacts with the homos much more often than with the girls.
He probably didnt open that branch to make money anyways

>>3898810
Keep telling yourself that I guess.
And why would cover want their shit stained brand? They'll probably poach some good talents here and there and that's it.

>>3899016
>shitty cardboard cutout models
Cover is incompetent, just look at their literal number one most well known talent
>receive zero promotion
wrong.
>are completely banned from collabing with the main branch?
wrong

>>3899023
Oh yeah, that's right. That was also the first time in... how long? I mean, I guess it's a good sign but still.

Here's a rrat,Cover gonna announce HomogayEN, and one of them is that Carson dude

>>3898683
40 JP holos are enough, the time for expansion is over in the JP market. Why do you think everyone is trying to expand into the EN market now instead. JP need to focus on making content that will draw in people who are not already into watching vtubers. It obvious that's why they are making a anime project and focusing on more idol projects like bloom.

>>3898848
Cope and seethe

>>3898981
What if this time the background music is sings by the new Vsinger?

>>3899016
Calli, Matsuri, FBK, Iofi and several more have all collabed with homos, what your on about, anon?

>>3899050
Cover cant force a collab, perhaps an event but collabs are still between the talents.
Oga and FBK did a collab because they both wanted to, not because management told them to

>>3899069
Iofi and Ollie don't count. ID is only second to holostars in being completely ignored.

>>3899061
>Carson dude
Why? Isn't he huge already? He'd just be losing an audience much bigger than what he'd probably be liable to receive as a vtuber

>>3898848
You keep coming to holo threads though

>>3899050
She collabs with him every month, do you even watch streams?

>>3899079
youre moving the goalpost anon....

>>3899077
>Cover can't force a collab

What? Of course they fucking can. "Do this or we dock your pay." It's really that easy.

>>3899081
he had a controversy and left the internet

>>3898986
that sounds like SOUL

>>3899068
Would be kino. I would kneel. Great way to show off the new singers.

>>3899100
Why would they ever do that?

>>3899061
It would be pretty sad if HomostarsEN mogs the JP branch hard, I mean that would fucking soul crushing.

>>3899138
Money and views? Collabs between popular chuubas tend to do well. Go look at the numbers for Korone and Calli's collab, and it only lasted an hour.

>>3899061
You know, doing a simple Google search will show that the dude is not going to start being active in a while. You wanna come up with narratives, at least do some research.

>>3899081
Yes but he really want to fuck gura pussy, also disappeared from internet so dunno what he's up to nowadays

Hololive and holostars can collab, it's depends on talents decisions if they wanted to or not.

Didn't Noel famously say she would never collab with a male colleague for no reason other than it would affect her super chats?

>>3899165
But you want them to collab with stars which aren't popular?

>>3899144
IF Cover ever decides to do it (presumably after a hypothetical male vtuber in nijisanji en), he very easily could, and most probably would.

>>3899100
And that would be a scummy thing to do. Cover has gotten away with all their fuck ups because everyone knows that they have their hearts in the right place and treat their talents really well. If it ever gets out that they are doing this they are going to get fucked harder than upd8

I will collab with all the girls and fuck them live. Cover already gave me permissions and we signed all the paperwork.

>>3899188
IF you watch otakmori that's what she's basically saying but watch anyone else it's because she can't talk to guys

>>3899165
not for the homos, you dolt.
A lot of fans are purity fags, and collabing with males will make them sperg out, making it wholly unpredictable. FBK did it because she never gave a shit, just like what happened when Taiwan controversy began

>>3899100
And forcing the girls into an uncomfortable position? I doubt Yagoo would allow that

>>3898983
We know why Holostars still survived to this day because Yagoo and Shinove keeps clinging on the male idol dream.

>>3899030
Are you sure about that? Im sure he's friendly with them, but from what everyone says Yagoo's best friend is Polka. She has gotten him to appear twice in her streams, once as a personal recording made especially for her and another in the flesh as part of a skit. Not to mention the various tweets that he has responded to directly.

>>3899100
This is exactly how upd8 got turbo-fucked by losing most of their talents.

>>3899250
Honestly they'd have much better chances with a HoloBand comprised of male members if they really want something akin to male idols. Even a boyband would be very viable.

>>3899250
The holostars honestly aren't doing badly by vtuber standards. You have to understand that this is an industry where if you get more than 100 concurrent viewers on the regular you're in the top 1% of streamers, and that includes all the stars

>>3899144
i can't even think of a notable male EN vtuber besides fartemis and Zentreya. however, if they get lucky and find a sykkuno type, it will potentially mog every vtuber out their.

>>3899251
Why are we comparing friendships? It's not a level with numbers. Sure, perhaps Yagoo's best friend is Polka, doesnt stop him from being friends with the homos.

>>3899211
Sorry bro the contract said Holostars, looks like your pegging dudes

>>3897738
It's bullshit but I believe it

>>3899276
I wish for a rebranding of Holostars as a virtual band.

>>3898829
It's tough to do anything when your platform cancel you...

>>3899309
I mean HolostarsEN doesn't even need to be Sykkuno tier, if even one of them can get Kuzuha numbers that would be enough

>people concernfagging about muh Stars again
1.) They're actually doing alright overall. Their more successful members are already in a position where they've objectively "made it" as vtubers as long as they keep working hard
2.) Collabs with the girls are rare because their own policy is to never collab unless the request comes from Hololive's side
3.) They don't want to be viewed as leeches or the Internet equivalent of affirmative action hires who only succeeded because they got carried by the girls and have said this themselves

>>3899238
Wouldn't be the first time, i.e. Mel.

>>3897738
ogey

>>3899392
I doubt they care about being viewed as leeches. FBK collabs with Oga often, and Ollie and Astel have been e-fucking each other for months.

>>3899379
I love how you just casually bring up Kuzuha numbers like he isn't the single most watched male vtuber.

>>3897738
this is going to be the foundation of their next big plan; it'll be really reckless to bet it on some unproven talents. imagine if aloe was the face you see whenever shiny smily story gets played.

>>3899476
Points 2 and 3 are connected. They do 2 because they are afraid of 3.

>>3899476
Astel and ollie is symbiotic, they both buff each other.
Oga and Fubuki are just fucking tho

>>3899510
>Oga and Fubuki are fucking
Try again friend

>>3899476
>I doubt they care about being viewed as leeches

>>3899458
The shit with Mel happened because most of the initial hires at Cover outside of Yagoo's professional circle were actually interns. He talked about this in an interview. It was only after the company was actually making money that Cover could actually focus on getting professionals versus anyone they could. The guy who became Mel's manager was almost certainly one of these interns, because he was a fan of her roommate who specifically pitched her as a hire.

>>3897436
why's her head so big

>>3899553
A couple of collabs throughout the year wouldn't do it. If that's all their content becomes then sure. That's precisely why Moona's seen as the whore of hololive.

>>3899553
..son

Cover please make the vsinger a loli. I will break my legs and permanently kneel.

imagine if the artist for this new teaser trailer sperged out like the last one and a timeloop happens.

>>3899572
>said no one ever
And no the shit slingers at jp don't count

>>3899542
Treerat has been living in Japan in secret for many moons now, and every time Oga and FBK collab, she forces FBK to watch her peg Oga afterwards. That's why their collabo have been more sparse lately, FBK just couldn't take it anymore.

>>3899572
I won't call (you) a faggot again if (you) stop being one

>Chinks spamming the waiting room
I thought youtube fixed this.

>>3899594
No she'll be a big titty oneesan instead and you will like it

>>3898279
>>3898331
This is not an actual niji fan

The Chinks are spamming in the Chat right now. What the hell?

>>3899632
just for specific channels

>>3899632
Cover really needs to get Ame to configure nightbot for all of their channels

>>3899632
It's a beta feature that only works on coco's channel, I don't think they rolled it out yet

>>3899632
They're using coco as a free testing grounf.

>>3899188
stop watching otakmori you utter faggot

>>3899553
Respect.

>>3897436
Sora, why are you smiling at me like that?

>>3899551
>He talked about this in an interview.
Which interview?

>>3899656
Close, there's two parts to the fix, the slow mode bug fix, and the anti vpn/third party app feature. The first one is universal, but the second one only works on coco's channel as far as I'm aware

>>3899632
It's half a year already. What the hell is wrong with them?

Damn seeing the chinks addressing themselves as "we" makes me sick. How can there be such a rotten """community"""?

>>3898452
cope

>>3899644
I knew they were going to pirate the Live but proclaiming it in chat?

>HoloAlt thread
>dude NijiEN!
>dude Holostars!

>>3898683
5 gens is perfect, putting quantity over quality is how you start to fail.
Maybe in late 2022 we can have gamers 2 or something like that.

>>3899806
Yes, they are that stupid

>>3899745
statewide indoctrination on a population of people who survive by being conformist and outwardly meek, but inwardly seething.

>>3898331
isnt this basically what happened to niji en? HAHAAHAAHH, is this projection?

>>3899572
>only for schizos

>>3899806
And what is Cover going to do? Persuade Biden to invade China?

>>3897738
doesnt seem to make too much sense to tease HoloEN 2 before Vsingers, but ill give them the benefit of the doubt that they mistook those two

>>3899862
Gee would you do that, I'd love that

>>3899700
This one: https://venturenavi.dreamincubator.co.jp/articles/interview/6989/.. I'd actually recommend reading through it if you're interested because it reveals a lot about Yagoo as a person. He seems like he actually knows what he's doing despite his public image being "haha funny meme man." I believe that most of the screwups that have happened at Cover are not really his fault or were not really avoidable given the company's meteoric rise and extremely humble beginnings.

Why do bugs even bother spamming in chinese? Who's reading them?

>>3899813
Do you want to start powerlevelfagging? The other thread already has that covered though.

>>3899824
they only recently gotten huge. the talent pool they can pick from is also way bigger; it'll be bad idea to not use this opportunity to find another breakout star like gura for the JP side. it doesn't have to be a whole gen, but they shouldn't sleep on their recruitment.

I know people will continue to watch streams of the Concert but doing so this time will just benefit Chinks. Just download them after on nyaa so the chinks don't see their plan working.

>>3899908
Honestly I'm more curious about this interview because this is paywalled
https://www.businessinsider.jp/series/mirainotsukurite/tanigo-motoaki/

>>3899917
it's masturbatory

>>3899960
Unlike the EN and ID branches, the JP branch is still recruiting.

>>3899813
numbers have fried their brains

>>3898291
>and isn't okay
That's life. Deal with it. I would if the shoe were on the other foot

What even is Holoalt?

>>3899998
There's a summary out there from an anon back when it was first published. You can dive into the archives for it by searching for the URL

>>3900147
That thing yagoo has been keeping in reserve to murder nijien in their crib

>>3900147
there was an idea

>>3899068
Pleaaaaaaaaase be a true rrrrat

Imagine Calli being the opening and her/they sing the ending

>>3899238
Fuck Middle management!

But yeah good point too anon

>>3897738
It's not like anyone couldn't try and guess that, Cover for sure could be trying to cut down NijiEN's momentum asap. I'm betting it's vsingers though, it makes more sense.
But still, maybe people are just overestimating Cover's competence and it's a nothingburger, just another PV. I don't think this is the case, but let's see.

>>3899883
Remember EN doesn't use numbered gen, it could be Vsinger with theme. They will try to name it Holo**** whatever they called. Holosinger, Holodiva, Holomusical, etc.

>>3900391
holodiva let's goooooooo

>>3900193
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/1884739/#1886038
That's actually very interesting interview

>>3897738
Fuck I'm getting hard

>>3900391
>>3900420
This reminds when reddit didn't know who AZKi was. Same energy.

>>3897738
>first potential threat to holoEn debuts
>Cover proceeds to completely and unapologetically destroy their assholes by announcing gen2
Sasuga Hololive

>>3900331
I forgot to mention something. From NijiEN's debut they mentioned they were going to have an animated series of sorts, correct me if I'm wrong though since I wasn't paying much attention to it. Maybe it's a response to that although I guess niji's thing is probably some sort of hologra. Also NijiEN seems to be concerned about the music market too, they are going to push for more original songs it seems. Dropping the vsingers bomb along with this holoalt PV would be a perfect response in my opinion.

>>3898933
Holostars needs a Fubuki. Not literally but someone like Fubuki, someone that takes the brand in his back, memes, makes events

>>3900663
>potential threat
Fucking lol, uto and shartemis were both bigger threats to hololive than nijiEN turned out to be. So much for the holomyth killer

>>3900691
Isn't that Roberu?

>>3900693
> claiming 'her'temis was a threat
damn

>>3900730
That just shows you how weak nijien is

>>3900693
They are two separate vtubers without a bigger company behind them. Shartemis is now irrelevant and uto is not harming hololive at all. Nijisanji is the closest thing to hololive in the market.

>>3898525
They hololive usually unveils them at the same time as they are announced.

>>3900693
well NijiEN is a long term threat rather than immediate. as long as nijiEN isn't in fucking double digits, they'll keep releasing new talents hoping for a breakthrough. They don't pay a salary, so it isn't that much extra money on their part.

>>3900391
They can call it however they want, but there were 2 separate auditions, one for EN Vsingers (happened earlier) and another for HoloEN-2 (happened later). They might have vsingers nearly ready, but not the more recent en-2.

>>3900663
>>3898452

Cover apologized for the lack of news on HoloAlt back in April and mentioned there will be news sometime in May.
This announcement has nothing to do as a response to other companies schedule.

>>3900711
>Lazy
>Boring talk stream
As much as I love the fellow. I don’t think he fits the bill

HoloEN gen2 will be:

- Tomboy with tanlines
- Metalhead big tiddy goth
- Femdom mommy
- Rushia tier GFE
- Boring moeblob to balance it

Source: Enma is my mom

>>3900782
They were both more effective at siphoning away hololive's core audience. Fartemis of the brown rode the meme wave and got massive views during the debut, even if it didn't stick, while the Venn diagram of uto and hololive's audience might as well be a circle. NijiEN, despite gunning for the exact same market with targeted ads and a design philosophy that seems ripped straight from hololive's notebook siphoned away less than a fraction of the audience that the both of them did.

>>3900833
What sorts of deal with devil did Yagoo do to get this sort of insane luck

>>3900822
Seethe

>>3900856
i guess i'm your dad then.

>>3900691
Nah, they needed someone like Kaoru, someone able to "breakthrough" and carry everyone else so they finally get the attention they desperately need.
He had good tastes in games, interesting personality, had weird but interesting streams ideas I mean, Beyblade ASMR... I never expected something like that before, he was trending on Twitter and even got a reply by the Beyblade creators themselves on Twitter and was appealing to pretty much everyone.
Numberwise, he was skyrocketing too (when compared to the others homos, of course).
The dude almost saved Holostars, but sadly, he graduated...

>>3900856
It must be four loli and thier cake teacher.

>>3900711
Eh, maybe. I don't know. He would need to step up the game in that case

>>3900872
I gave them a shot and I have to say, they are Anya level. So much for HoloEn killer

>>3900872
Tranny shark was a case of right time, right place. But wrong sex and no talent.

>>3900820
I might be taking out of my ass, but I think a VSinger takes a lot more work than a regular streamer. If they try to make something like an EN AZKi, it would require a 3D model, original songs, dance training, MV. I really don't think it makes much sense for the VSinger to be just someone with a L2D avatar who focus on singing.
It would not surprise me if EN 2 debuts before the VSinger

>>3898493
this

>>3899276
I wish, that would be a dream come true for Astel.

>>3899030
>He probably didnt open that branch to make money anyways
I believe it, it wouldn't be the first time a Japanese CEO's done this. Bushiroad (a company that produces weeb cardgames) bought out the NJPW because the chairman is a huge wrestling fan.

>>3900711
He doesn't even have half the charisma of kaoru

>>3900693
We don't underestimate competition in business, no matter how small they are. I've seen my father's business crumble to dust in the span of a year because he was too nice with his competitors. Things can go south really fast, especially in a market as young and volatile as vtubing. One moment of weakness and the competition is already flying above your head to stomp you.

>>3899030
I mean, the holostars do make decent money, just not hololive level money, which is frankly insane by livestreamer standards, nevermind hololive

>>3900899
Kaoru banged a chick and not a fellow Homostar, that's why he got fired.

>>3900890
I can see through your bloodshot eyes as you furiously type on your keyboard SEAnigchama, calm down.

>>3901014
True, I mean, even Cover used to be that kind of small vtuber company nobody gave a shit about until they suddenly exploded in popularity all over the world with fucking biblical proportions.

>>3897738
I can't wait if this rrat is real (to see it live) or fake (to see it fucking burn)

>>3899077
Wrong. FBK has big influence, so she has more freedom, also Oga is her cousin.
Management is the one who doesn't let Coco touch EN, forcing Marine to join Kanata birthday, and let Coco break her after that

>>3901077
and it's not like Nijisanji made any wrong moves either. Cover is just 1 step ahead in utilizing their small explosion after the fubuki scatman. Added with a bit of luck and basic understanding of business development, they managed to outperform everyone else overseas.

>>3897738
I KNEEL

>>3901278
Nijisanji kinda did. They had the exact same attention from the western fanbase in the form of Lulu and Ange, it's just that unlike hololive they failed to take advantage of it and instead doubled down on the Japanese Market. If they made a few different decisions they could be in the same spot that hololive is today

>>3899727
Bugmen just couldn't accept their failure and move on

>>3901247
>also Oga is her cousin.
so another case of nepotism eh

>>3901247
>forcing Marine to join Kanata birthday, and let Coco break her after that
Source/context?

>>3899745
Normie try to stand out in communist group will be culled, that's why they move in herd to executive order from master

>>3898114
fitting since C
>>3898324
are you sure about that? gura was behind calli and was below 200k before debut stream.

>>3901247
>Oga is her cousin.
Hot

>>3899862
Ha ha of course they know how to deal with that. Not the 1st time it's happened. And it was glorious

>>3899727
They are bugmen, their very existence is a mistake

>>3901247
I think you're making strong claims here, gonna need sources for all of that

>>3899917
Well-educated Japanese can read a lot of Kanji

>>3901318
They had a different mindset back then because they kind of already have a branch focused on specific overseas audiences. They also had(?) a different approach when it comes to virtual youtubers where hololive is more focused on the extremely high quality talent after gen 3, nijisanji is more focused on the notion that "everyone can become a vtuber" which works in the Japanese market. The problem comes when they're trying to branch out to the overseas market with the same mindset when vtuber is still just this very niche subgenre of anime.

>>3901442
Problem is in the west you need something to distinguish yourself from the thousands of streamers also doing the same thing.

>>3901014
"We"? Tourist get out

>>3900693
Leeches. And they success because holo girls allow them, not to mention big company behind keep shilling non stop for months.

>>3897738
Holy shit, that's overkill kek

>>3899727
Chinks/nips/gooks are extremely obsessive and vengeful people. They're not happy unless you retire or commit suicide

Can't wait for the HoloAlt gacha game.

>>3897738
I would seriously respect Yagoo for being ruthless if this was true.

>>3898331

>>3898331
Anon......

>>3901247
Massive claims here, and please bring out your proof if you have any.

>>3901031
>>3900965
Again, it comes back to the "Yagoo heart of gold rrat". Most of the Homos were in a tough spot before Yagoo recruited them, and being a japanese aiming for the japanese market, he 100% knows that male idols wont attract a fraction of the number of customers a female idol can.
If he was truly gunning for the money he wouldve cut off holostars and doubled down on jp/en branch a long time ago

>>3901356
Marin kick Kanatan cuz she frustrated being forced to join againts her will.
Coco then proceed to give Marin a visit with a message to management before hand, in case Marin become too broken she can't stream the following day.
FBK know what happened, decide to send Doog to comfort Marin, Marin cried her heart out on her shoulder
Marin now scare shitless at the sight of Coco, and call her "san" recently

>>3897738
>He also said that the second EN generation would be unveiled as part of the PV
I hate this. I totally get it, because from a marketing standpoint it's brilliant, but I hate it. There are Hololive members who didn't even appear in the first PV, and now these new streamers will appear in it despite being nobodies.

>>3901326
well of course you think there isn't many who wants to get into holo to fuck with the talents? especially in kayfabe heavy entertainment industries like vtubing.

>>3901429
Ogey

>>3898331
I really, REALLY hope we don't get 5 streamers that are Ollie levels of cringe. I'm so tired of this type of streamers that are "lol i'm so random xd", fuck them.

>>3901952
>got a C&D from Cover after he advertised himself as Kaoru in a Beyblade tourney
Never fails to make me laugh

>>3902002
i really like this picture of pekora, is it okay if i save it?

>>3902002
rrat

I don't get why people think the leaker is real when Luna had already leaked that something was going to be released on the official Hololive channel on the 21st.

>>3902154
Because it's fun to talk about.

>>3902154
the leaker is Luna confirmed

>>3901965
Still going to need source for this rrat

>>3902154
Your English Reps anon

> I don't get why people think the leak is real

>Luna has already leaked something.

You are supporting that leak

Our girl can't stop winning.

>>3902265
>I had the honor of helping write (...) the song
Oh no, cringecore incoming

Does anyone have some lists for potential Holo Vsingers?
Just reminder Cover doesn't have policy about graduating from previous life.

>Okayu is using Wario
Fatto love!

>>3902304
kek

>>3902078
It's everywhere back in /hlg/ days

>>3902304
You're outing yourself real hard here, just so you know, everyone's first reaction to the song was "wait, that's Mori?"

>>3902342
Just dig up some archives about HoloEN 2 potential members here anon, there are a lot already... granted, by now the pool is larger and we all know that Cover pulled a fastball on us with Gen1 already by hiring 2 1/2 Vtubers, so that makes it even harder.

My rrat for one is Kyoresu though, since HoloJP members are already luring out the spics like they did with us EOP with Coco. Her debut will seal the deal and make her the Gura of her batch with the spic representation.

>>3902450
I have no idea what you're talking about. Am I supposed to be some kind of crazy and famous cringe-reaper anti?

>>3897738
n-nijibros?

>>3902507
She's graduating soon, she won't be there for their downfall

>>3902450
your reading comprehension reps anonchama...
He was talking about moris cringe writing

>>3902483
Oh do you have a link to her channel?

>>3902553
https://youtube.com/c/kyOresu

Here, she's basically a better Gura imo, and that's me saying that as a Chumbud

>>3902265
Its going to be badly mixed again isnt it

>>3902590
Her last video is one week ago...

>>3902661
you dont have to stop with side channels to apply

>>3902661
Mori is still active and was on a tour recently

Lots of HoloJP, Coco and Noel being big names too

>>3902590
so this is what zoomers like huh
guess im getting old, ill just stick with my jp holos thank you very much

>>3902590
>another meme loli makes into hololive

For EN2 wouldn't they want to preference current talent recommendations to encourage camaraderie, just like in JP? I imagine we'll see more of the same nepotism, which isn't necessarily bad.

>>3902743
The future is now old man!

Joking aside, where were you anon, taste in music has jumper hoops with mumble rap and other shit now being mainstream.

Yeah, JP music at least hasn't changed that much

>>3902743
is this bait?
is this obvious larp?
i can't tell if it's ironic or not
because hololive started in 2018 you absolute retard

>>3902753
The 2nd atomic bomb Cover drops at Anycolor (pffft)

>>3902265
I hope they include a few more singers this time, although if it is just Mori its fine too

>>3898291
Aloe will have her revenge, Nijifag

>>3902590
lilyraichu is much better than this. This girl is on discounted Gura level

>>3902833
A Mori/Sora duet would be kino

>>3902814
the context here is vtuber years temperature room IQ anon

>>3902866
I'd rather have her BF Harry Potter be HolostarEN and enjoy the shit he does for on his avatar

will cover finally show any love for her?

>>3902937
if they cared they wouldnt had hired her rigger.
RIGGER HATE

>>3900147
*puss emergency button incase of Niji EN*

>>3902937
Ofc, why do you ask?

>>3902304
Mori's cringecore music is kino though...

>>3902871
Stop, don't give me hope.

>>3902489
You're outing herself as a newfag. We've already heard a bit of the song in the preview back in february.

>>3902937
Who?

>>3902866
>knows Spanish
>knows Russian
>knows Japanese
>is ok with loli
Explain how your e-whore is better that her,shillchama!

>>3902265
>Have an EN make and sing the song
>EN and IDs will never be included in this Alt shit
I don't get Cover at all sometimes, they are just lucky NijiEN failed to meet expectations.

>>3902645
you know it baby

>>3902645
its a holoEN trademark.

>>3903428
>EN and IDs will never be included in this Alt shit
Want to elaborate?

>>3901502
Anonchama...

>>3897738
I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE I BELIEVE

>>3903428
...Care to tell us what expectations you had from NijiEN?

>>3904149
40k viewers on debut, viewership comparable to Mori or Amelia, strong enough to give HoloEN a run for their money.

>>3904488
That’s very unrealistic.
All they did to show their existence before debut was get a few react channels to watch their clips and do an ad blitz at the very last second

>>3902265
>Calli again singing
Jesus Christ, can't they have other ENs take a crack at this shit, I would even take Kiara's singing at this point.
Or hell better yet, how about a JP Holo who can actually sing? The theme song is in Japanese anyway.

>>3904668
Not with the way people were hyping it up on the board. With the number of threads there were about nijien on this place you'd think its the second coming of Jesus christ. And this is on top of everyone claiming that it's going to mog hololive

>>3904488
This is peak delusion

>>3898439
This. They definitely won't be in the animated trailer, but maybe they'll be showcased afterwards.

>>3904790
>look i fell for blatant falseflagging

>>3898439
It won't be part of the MV, but there'll probably be an announcement afterwards

>>3904901
Falseflagging is one or two shitposters. If you have enough shitposters to flood half a board it stops being falseflagging and starts being "the actual fanbase"

>>3904790
This board represents a very very small portion of the fanbase.
People were only hyping it up because there was nothing else really going on and dramafags got off on pitting Hololive and Nijisanji against each other.

>>3904742
Cover uses Mori cause they can just use their studio, instead of having to rent one for the recording.
As for why EN instead of any other JP, no idea. Maybe Mori's the most available singer, since she's on the studio often for her own songs anyway.

If they had an after credits scene showing HoloEN Gen 1 and teasing the silhouettes of Gen 2 they would be priming the hype train for weeks.

>>3904742
How the fuck new are you, retard? The preview got out months ago.

>>3904971
Doesn't Mori record her songs in her home?

>>3905013
>EN
They are always excluded from this type of shit, don't hold your breath, even ID get to occasionally participate.

>>3904971
i guess they couldn't afford sora, suisei or even watame huh

>>3897436
Sora the protagonist!

>>3897738
What about Gen 1?
Mori even sings the OP

>>3906000
Its either her or Miko, not sure if that would be the case if there was ever an anime though, they probably would push Gen 3 instead.

>>3906030
No Gen 1, EN, ID, or Holostars allowed.

>>3897738
Absolute fucking bullshit. You guys will believe anything

>>3906398
ogey

>>3900820
The point of non-number gens is that they can make changes on the fly. You have no idea what their original plans are and they can swim in plausible deniability all day