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Unexpected booba edition.

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to chill and talk in-depth about behind the scenes of Indonesian VTubers in general. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber market, whether it be rumors, numbers, demographics, auditions, debuts, graduations, etc.

Resource:
https://vtuber.asia

Previous Thread: >>38613885

>> No.38858616

>>38858223
at least get the subject right ffs

>> No.38858897

>>38858223
Why are you using "|", kek.
Anyway, thanks for the thread. Not much is happening right now, aside from Kobo's birthday and Valrius graduating from content-creating.

>> No.38858900
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38858900

We need to talk about tons of things rn /warkop/
>how tf picrel happened? I didn't know she has ties with feesh from all chuubas
>obviously Kobo and her flesh sirkel is a must have topic, I honestly didn't expect holomanagement to allow that many flesh but hey,. now that it actually happened all I can say is based, but would you call them the same as I would?

Also we have to congratulate our esteemed /here/chuuba for getting her new model, first ori and even a visit to JP for her 3D at Feb2023!
https://twitter.com/AiriCordelia/status/1601924369965801472?cxt=HHwWgIDTzcTulrssAAAA

>> No.38859141

>>38858900
>We need to talk about tons of things rn /warkop/
No, no we don't. Somebody would have made a thread earlier if that were the case.

>> No.38860205

>>38859141
Are, are our influence in /vt/ reclining?

>> No.38862321

>>38860205
As the usual OP, I could make a /warkop/ earlier, but I don't feel like it. We need more posters, that's it.

>> No.38865720

>>38862321
Quick send some rrats up, maybe that'd lure them here

>> No.38867354

>>38865720
I can verify a rrat but it involves my oshi and I don't want to taint her already-messy reputation.
I did manage to contact Valrius before his Twitter went kaput, wished him well and shit.

>> No.38868037

>>38865720
here's rrat
alia is andi's real wife

>> No.38868535
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38868535

>Shit-talked my oshis
>They fed me well after that
I'll shut up for now huehuehue
Gochisosamadeshita~~
I'm eating good this week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQoDPnBtPvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icyd7qvF_jA

>>38862321
>we need more posters
We need to talk more about our oshis. That will welcome anyone who are fans of indie and small corpo chuubas. Or we can shit-talk our Oshis venting out/ letting the unek unek out.

>>38868037
I don't remember him taking a second wife after me
Jokes aside, they are more professional siblings than Kobo and Altare

>> No.38868729

>>38862321
I think our problem is more like there is no one posting at ID dead hours more than more poster itself
>>38858897
Kobo's totsu and her cover of Happy were really amazing ngl. Both really remind me of the good old times for obviously different reason

>> No.38870004
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38870004

>>38858900
the new model...
she needs correction

>> No.38871010

>>38870004
https://twitter.com/extridentalt/status/1602224489114529792
Need correction indeed. Here's a high-quality cupang lewd.

>> No.38871358

https://twitter.com/SilviaValleria/status/1602468595681869826

Komandan is opening her membership on this weekend!

>> No.38872697

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOeGEJr6P-0

this stream is kinda wild

>> No.38873586
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38873586

Man, this deeptalk section with Windah in Kobo's birthday is intriguing. He tried to connect to her as a fellow creator and I think she's taken aback? expecting some funny memey man and I think some of the initial direction was lost which is a shame.
i wish she keep some of his words here dear. daging ini mah.

>> No.38874518

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiJEx8bkagQ
What's with kunti pretending as if getting an eye tracker is muh special?

>> No.38875141

https://twitter.com/Oyakorodesu/status/1602247717291700224?t=zTeUpiMsBQoP7vJKYB3Cdw&s=19

in memoriam: the canceled NijiID Wave 7

And so, the first child is their second born

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38875278

>>38875141
It's for the best anon... Also oooo, ID based but more /wvt/ish with her EN twich leanings

>> No.38875316

>>38871010
NO WAY
THERE'S MORE
https://twitter.com/extridentalt/status/1602558996103122944?s=46&t=E25CEPzNRPkjj13RlOGL6g

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38876155

One more addition for my collection.
6 more to 100
It's surpassing my other utaite collections. and also Andi's roommate collection
I still wonder why he is not a vtuber, simping him would be easier. He collabed with Andi and Alia, he's pretty much a MAHA5 honorary member lol
MAHA5 please adopt him together with Enji and Raska
Anon's rrat about a married Andi bothered me hours after it was posted. I have my own take about chuubas Real Life and Virtual Self separation.
As for warkop problem, maybe we should bump other generals. Type something like "bumped by warkop", maybe anons will also help us bump this thread

>> No.38876252

>>38875316
>non Nijiex-ID/Snowdrop ID yuri
Very nice.
>>38876155
>bumping other threads
That's not a bad idea. Just don't do it excessively.

>> No.38876515

>>38876155
>>38876252
maybe if we can find generals that are struggling during our timezone we can help each other

>> No.38876816

>>38873586
Brando is always sincere whenever he does something like this. He also always gives his chat and 2views his in-depth analysis about current ID streaming market when they asked him in his 2nd account

>> No.38877979

>>38876515
HoloID threads, probably. /ehe/ can be dead quickly if there's no streams.

>> No.38878235

>>38877979
>>38876515
Same case with /mhm/. I think the only /moon/, /mep/ and Anya-Petra are the stable ID generals /here/ now

>> No.38878457

>>38876515
It's not surprising that a general that only exists in a single timezone would have difficulty surviving outside of it. Most chuubas are not morning persons so there's no morning streams either.

>> No.38878593

>>38876515
I'm already helping bumping /vnug/ before, so try help them more and maybe they'd bump us back, also if we can correct our lore at /vtwbg/ they too could be our stable bumpmates

>> No.38879830

>>38878593
>correct our lore /vtwbg/
Good Lord, who the hell wrote it? Are they still active?

>> No.38880274

>>38876252
>>38876515
Nevermind i kinda think about it again it's probably a bad idea. What if it's becoming a meme or some schizo using it to falseflag?

I plan to catch up with the cyberpunk VOD later, but Andi is also gonna stream random shits with his kouhai. There are lots of streams lately

>> No.38880443

>>38880274
Just do it only to other ID generals and I think no one would object that

>> No.38880447

>>38880274
I remembered someone false-flagging as a Simpthia on /moon/ in late-2021 to early-2022. Can someone from /moon/ refresh my memory on this?

>> No.38880466

Aaaannd Kobo's birthday Unarchived karaoke. This night is packed

>> No.38880499

>>38880447
The archieve is over there, anon

>> No.38881701

>>38880274
if you do it right (like that kr bros bumping /warkop) i'm sure we can build good relationship

>> No.38881763

>>38876816
Yep, Kobo is clearly isnt a follower of him, and were mainly being cornered by since they garner some overlapping fans. I truly see it now.

Also, I didnt follow her this much these days but I learned that she probably knows Siska IRL. Man, I felt bad for bullying her for that old kepala besar tweet. It came out of nowhere back then and the fans are confused lol.

>> No.38881762

>>38880466
Finally another karaoke, hopefully a lot of new songs. also she said that she didn't practiced before which means it will be better kek (she always try to practice hard and ends up messing her throat or something).

>> No.38881981

>>38881763
>I learned that she probably knows Siska IRL
why?

>> No.38882354
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38882354

>>38881981
Its just my assumption. I dont recall them connecting much in their vtuber personas, but they are close enough for that kepala besar tweet that seems to be their first interraction. Maybe they did after that but I dont follow vtuber lately as I said before.
She also got a spot in the birthday wish the other day despite even sick, so I assume they are close behind the scenes.

Also, what are some Kobo collab that she just connect well with the other person? and what are some Kobo collab where she just didnt connect instantly?

>> No.38882750

>>38881763
>Siska
I miss pre-wave 5 NIJI ID.
Ejak, Manggis, and Derem doesn't really stuck on my consciousness.
Poor Layla.
Also I'll be around until night takes me sleepy.

>> No.38882844

>Risu is streaming while fully speaking in Indonesian
Kinda surprised me

>> No.38883052

>>38882354
>Kobo collab that she just connect well with the other person?
The collab with Lili is still my favourite. I don't think they interact much but the dynamic is amazing. Also a very rare stream where Kobo actually carry the game instead of the usual "beban" image she has. The collab with Sena is also legendary.

>Kobo collab where she just didnt connect instantly?
The valo collab with assylum (manca dkk) kek. She's nervous playing with her idol and she's in the middle of the "am i too toxic?" phase.

>> No.38883127

>>38882844
Meanwhile Iofi is fully speaking japanese.
Also surprised me that some autists stay despite not knowing japanese

>> No.38883173

>>38883127
cute anime noise is cute anime noise no matter you understand or not

>> No.38883299

>>38883052
>The valo collab with asylum
Imagine if it was a male Kobo, there will be no limit for toxic words. Since Manca is not a streamer, Manca's fans will be absorbed into the Holo rabbit hole with maximum power.

>> No.38883494

Go watch Kobo's karaoke if you want ID4 show them ID market's worth.
Remember we still don't have a permanent audition.
HoloID could be canned anytime.
Sorry, another thread is mentioning IPO and it made me anxious

>> No.38883676

>>38883127
Before ID and EN branch comes out that's how hololive grow their brand to begin with

>> No.38883716

>>38883494
i think how many merch she sold on tokopedia is more important if it's about IPO

>> No.38883813

>>38883494
>HoloID could be canned
kekw sorry sir but Hololive is not the same as Nijisanji
There is a lot of streamer that performing below HoloID and you say that HoloID could be canned anytime with their regular 4 view CCV

>> No.38883902

Imagine missed Kobo singing Shinunoga E-wa

>> No.38883965

>>38883716
This, anycolor has admitted in their IPO that merch played a big role in their earnings, so the only reason why the merge happened was that IDstaffs were overspending and were clueless in their merch game

>> No.38884214

>>38883052 (me)
>Sena
Kek, i mean Sana
>>38883299
Nah, i'm sure it's fine. She just decided to listen to troll (and also worry too much about some kids watching).

>> No.38884275

>>38883813
>There is a lot of streamer that performing below HoloID
Sorry anon but in Yagoo's eyes : Holostars > HoloJP >>> HoloEN >>>> HoloID

>> No.38884447

>>38884275
Remember that as much as we hate this fact but it needs to be said that holoID debuted to trail NijiID back then, now that NijiID went kaput, what purpose holoID really have now that they have this sorta landslide monopoly of ID?

>> No.38884557

>>38884447
>landslide monopoly of ID
I don't care about it
We are The only branch which doesn't have a permanent audition
What does that tell you? Why are we the only one different?

>> No.38884772

>>38880447
Nothing much to highlight about that it just some faggots baiting on /moon/ using Miti to shat on Moona because she was getting subscription faster than Moona and doomposting that Miti will overtake her before she reached 1M and Miti's CCV was really massive more than Moona at the time iirc because she streamed irregularly due to her skripsi

>> No.38884891

>>38883494
>Canned
Don't worry M-chan knows what she's doing with ID so I bet even the thought to disband it never cross Yagoo's mind

>> No.38885018

>>38884557
>What does that tell you?
Cover not interested in expanding fast. Remember that we still waiting for EN3

>> No.38885126

>>38884557
Honestly a permanent audition would be more concerning than the typical holoID audition, you don't want to end up like NijiID who tried it twice and failed to debut anyone outta it, or to see it end up like holoEN who still waiting for EN3

>> No.38885223

>>38883494
you're too paranoid and probably a newfag here for believing a stupid rrat
the fact that they still debut the ID3 after a horrible performance from ID2 was enough for you to understand hololive doesn't really care about all that shit

>> No.38885249

>>38884891
>Yagoo's mind
It's not Yagoo that I'm mainly worried about if the IPO rrat is true
>>38885018
HoloEN and StarsEN have permanent audition. HoloID is not.
>>38885126
NijiID don't have a permanent audition. What are you talking about? They have audition with limited time like HoloID. HoloJP, StarsJP, HoloEN and StarsEN have permanent audition with no time limit

>> No.38885363

>>38885223
>a horrible performance from ID2
Wtf are you talking about? When looking at EN recline and ID3 they might look Horrible NOW. but they're far from 'horrible performance' when they debuted they BLEW ID1 out of water, it's because they debuted after Myth

>> No.38885528

>>38885249
All of these because muh no permanent audition ?
The IPO rrat has been there for years
Kek this is worse than i thought
Are we really have no other thing to talk about to the point making something from nothing

>> No.38885602

>>38885363
they're already losing the momentum less than a month after debut
as much as I like ID2, numberwise, they're a dissapointment

>> No.38885647

>>38885249
That's why I said M-chan knows what she's doing. Even if Cover will go public tomorrow, I don't think the current shareholders will even give a suggestion to canned them since in merchs, CCV and donos metrics, HoloID can be said as great even against some big JP agencies and won't drag the company's value that much

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>>38885249
>What are you talking about?
picrel was their first attempt, it was at early 2020 and stopped bcuz covid, the 2nd one was after Virtual Summit with the supposed wave7 and canned bcuz muh merge

>> No.38885749

>>38885363
At first they don't even aim that high.Their manager doesn't even think they can get to 100k on the first year. Right now 500k subs means nothing while back then ID1 Needs to work their ass of to get that.

>> No.38885998

>>38885602
They might be a disappoinment TODAY
But it's a massive incline
But How it was a disappoinment when their debut and honeymoon month number mogs ID1 debut and first months? Now if ID4 debut and their numbers couldn't get any higher than ID3, that's called disappointment

>> No.38886063

>>38885704
I'm not a nijinig thank you for clarifying

>> No.38886107

>>38885528
>Are we really have no other thing to talk about to the point making something from nothing
YES

>> No.38886243

>>38885249
>HoloEN and StarsEN have permanent audition. HoloID is not.
Permanent audition doesn't mean anything. Cover can announce audition for ID4 right now and there's a reasonable chance that they will debut before EN3. They don't really want new EN or new homos, just in case they got good talent

>> No.38886341

Since when Kobo add these cutesy mumbles inbetween speaking? Its.. kinda out of character i feel lol

>> No.38886391

>>38886243
Permanent audition mean they take our market seriously.
>They don't really want new EN or new homos, just in case they got good talent
That's just Omega's retardation

>> No.38886548

>>38885528
I know this is unusual for /warkop/ but this is what a typical /vt/ talks looks like elsewhere so yea....

>> No.38886578

>>38885998
moona keep inclining after her debut meanwhile ollie can't maintain her numbers and keep reclining and keep doing a series of yab to the point she created her own dedicated schizo

>> No.38886768

>>38886578
How can you keep mistaken the branch consistent overall incline with the personal incline (and Recline) of individual members? That's like saying ID3 is a failure because Kobo can't keep her debut honeymoon and viral numbers consistently in 10k

>> No.38886913

>>38886768
but ID2 made an overall recline tho
lofi and risu is considered as inclining if you compare it to their debut
I just use ollie as an example because out of all ID2 she's the most disappointing one, because she had so much potential compared to her genmates

>> No.38887052

>>38886578
>>38886913
>Ollie
That's actually sad whenever I think about it. Just imagine how /zomg/ used to be a stable general in /here/ to leaving no trace at all in a span of a year

>> No.38887297

Also if you want to support holoID more, then come here
https://twitter.com/punipun7/status/1602656789677281282
Events like this, is another key earning for enikara's IPO so it should be the same for cover as well

>> No.38887405

>ollie
did the reflective cover or the school vids came first?

>> No.38887446

>all this paranoid over baseless IPO rrat
meh, I'm more paranoid in case Cover made starsID, more like afraid if they will hire male ollie or oblivious simp halu who tried to caper to HoloJP/EN girls, that's yabe. but at the same time I'm curious about the reception and how it will affect ID vtuber market especially on male chuuba market. i doubt they will go for brotuber route but if they did i hope they didn't hire Manca at home for starsID because he attracts insufferable fanbase. even kobokers get on my nerve sometime
>>38886913
>>38886578
Ollie is an example of wasted potential and hiring a naïve thirsty zoomer whose personality only ''haha simp xD" is a mistake.

>> No.38887473

The fact that cover put a lot of stocks on tokopedia for Kobo compare to other IDs means they acknowledge ID market

>> No.38887513

>>38887405
the school video iirc

>> No.38887520

>>38887405
That one school vids when she wore her SMA uniform? It came rather early after her debut tho so that's your answer

>> No.38887594

>>38887446
>spoiler
nah, I doubt they will go for brotuber. they will aim for yumefujo market because there's plenty data our local female fangirl has buying power and is willing to waste money on merch. (just look at kpop merch and sales in ID scene)
I mean there's an ID fangirl who donates 1 million IDR to Vesper kekw

>> No.38887644

>>38886913
Anon are you gonna say this 10 months from now on "the fact that they still debut the ID4 after a horrible performance from ID3" if ID3 recline to 1k? We all know that ID3 is a success even if they recline in the future, that won't change their past debut reception.

>> No.38887669

>>38887052
it was because of connor
I consider kobo made worse yab than ollie, she keep interacting with every male but she never interact with connor
that's why nobody actually care about kobo yab here and why ollie schizo keep spamming her yab for almost a year

>> No.38887685

>>38887446
>starsID
Will you be an Anti like me? Looking for a friend

>> No.38887693

Kobo is ready for the rich brian collab

>> No.38887746

>>38887594
>Tempusfags
They don't like local males

>> No.38887767

>>38887594
>ID fangirl who donates 1 million IDR to Vesper
when I watch that Vesper's stream i was shocked to see it but then I remember my female friends who donate 3jt to one of luxiem member....

>> No.38887773

>>38887473
I don't really know about each holoID fanbase so plis elaborate me about their buying powers because most subs =/= best buyers, I mean I believe Ela is still below Anya sub wise but even YT award her as the most supachatted ID gamer

>> No.38887888

>>38887773 (me)
The reason for this was that I'm curious how tf despite Mooner has the highest sub from ID1 yet somehow, her 3D merch sold the slowest compared to treerat and Iofi

>> No.38887891

>>38887644
tf are you talking about? ID3 made an incline after their debut, especially kobo and kaela. the data was there, I consider ID2 performance was bad because of the same exact data. ID3 saved holoID, nobody dispute that

>> No.38887911

>>38887773
I'm talking about local buying power. Ollie and Zeta has massive amount of SC but most of them are not from Indonesians. Cover acknowledged that Kobo has a lot of local viewers and believe that her fanbase have strong enough buying power to put more stocks on Tokopedia.

>> No.38887940

>>38887446
starsID will happen after windah announcing his retirement

>> No.38887948

>>38887891
Show me the Data then

>> No.38887982

>>38887685
Depend on how starsID members behave, if they behave like Mori, Ollie and Manca kw.
I will anti them.
>>38887594
that's what I thought, but the problem is: our yumefujo is self-hating ID and doesn't care about local males (most of time they hate ID males)

>> No.38888090

>>38887948
lazyfag, Kaela was barely a 4 view chuba on her debut month

>> No.38888091

>>38885998
>ID4 would be a disappointment if they can't get more numbers than ID3
From how it was in JP, I think it seems very likely to happen but no one ever calls Watame or Towa a disappointment just because they can't even beat Flare, the weakest JP3
>>38887669
Kobo actually knows who she should associate with and can differentiate cloud chasers apart,. something that Ollie doesn't have

>> No.38888129

>>38887982
I will anti them if they debut before ID4.
No i will Anti them because they are Holostars

>> No.38888184

>>38888090
Where's the comparison of ID2 and ID3 debut numbers? I'm waiting

>> No.38888285

>>38887911
I wouldn't doubt on Ollie and Zeta but I thought Kaela would have more IDRs? Also what bout >>38887888 ?

>> No.38888451

>>38888090
Source : my ass
I don't read the reply chain but saying "Kaela was barely a 4 view chuba on her debut month"
You can track the numbers here https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/kaela
She never touch 3 view territory

>> No.38888508

>>38888285
i actually don't know much about Kaela, but isn't most of her sc usd? she definitely has the second biggest ID fanbase tho

>> No.38888521

if there's ever starsID there's better be boke chinkdo boy and qt tsukkomi pribumi boy, so I can ship them.
t. fujo

>> No.38888569

>>38888285
Do you see her merch ? Risu with risusaurus and iofi with her plushie and compare it to moona it was a fucking generic penguin which resemble nothing to moona other than the necktie

>> No.38888592

>>38873586
Timestamp? or clips?

>> No.38888617

>>38878235
But Kaela streams everytime....

>> No.38888662

>leaves /warkop/ for hours
>HoloID fisticuff ensues
At least /warkop/ reaches 100 posts in a day. Watch Miti play Apex with scuffgang: https://youtu.be/cfu9cRRTH98

>> No.38888771

>>38887982
>StarsID has no other choice but to become brotubers and stay away from the girls in case Yagoo wants to create it
Hmm I hope it will turn out to be like that
>>38888285
I think Kaela has a more balanced portion between IDR and other currencies since she got gachi from both sides from the very beginning and only continue to grow ever since while Kobo got overwhelming ID gachi. Then again it's kinda hard to really compare them since it's too complicated to numberfag SB
>Iofi and Risu beat Moona on merch
That purple retard chose to put that fat fuck as her merch instead of something cool, cute or useful sometimes I really wonder what's wrong with my oshi's mind
>>38888617
You have no idea how hard it's for me to keep it afloat from time to time

>> No.38888814

>>38888451
>never touch 3 view territory
>literally have 5 streams below 1k on april
I also said "barely 4 views" which also includes 1.1k to 1.2k average views (not CCV).
Maybe learned how to read data next time.

>> No.38888846

don't let this all distract you from the fact that Snowdrop owner/CEO/whatever the fuck a commisioner is was involved in a corruption case

>> No.38888875

No one will notice I'm mating press Iofi!

>> No.38888955

>>38888846
Lemap now you remind me he's already become a convict for more than 6 months, right? Any update on the case?

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>>38888846
wait? wtf? elaborate?

>> No.38889068

>>38888662
That's how to make the thread stable. by using HoloID as the bait topic beause our own chuba power outside holoID can't generate enough traction for people to talk about

>> No.38889080

>>38888875
Her model is literally one of the most sexiest designs in Hololive I give you that

>> No.38889113

>>38887888
Mooner has the most normies fanbase out of ID1 but nowhere as big as Kobo to cover for it. Iofi is a GFE (yes, despite her lust she still gives a lot of fanservice) whie treerat has a really loyal fanbase too.

>> No.38889181

>>38888771
>StarsID has no other choice but to become brotubers and stay away from the girls in case Yagoo wants to create it
>when kobo and ollie exist
good luck for the boys kekw, unless they have ball to refuse them because they don't want to become the girls accessories

>> No.38889247

>>38888569
Yes the penguin sold badly because it's no different than penguins sold at Glodok or somewhere just with an added neck tie.
That's why Moona published more unique merch (Moontato) and it sells well. Granted from that day on there will be no more generic merch, it is proven that ID market is not weak in merch buying as long as it's unique. Makes me remember Niji ID covid mask also didn't sell well but Maha5 Andi's jacket sold out in less than a week.

>> No.38889278
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38889278

>>38888184
ollie was the best performance out of all ID2 at her debut, but she ultimately fallen below 4k a week after her debut and she keep reclining since then
kaela had a slow start, she was the worst performance out of all ID3. but compared to anya, she was even worse than kaela

>> No.38889353

>>38889278
Do you have ID1?

>> No.38889449

>>38889278
The top of HoloID back then was Risu, right? I wonder what's their numbers

>> No.38889459

>>38889113
Kek I still remember how some underageb& introduced Iofi as her gf to her mother

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>>38889353
nope sadly

>> No.38889491

>>38889449
I mean ID1

>> No.38889513

>>38888814
I only see 2 for peaks and 3 for average views because the other 2 is the restart of the stream
and all of them is donation reading

>> No.38889531

>>38889449
>>38889491
Anon, there was only ID1 in HoloID at the time so you don't need to correct yourself...

>> No.38889679

>>38889068
I have no problem against smaller chuuba, but I just have no idea how to get involved in a discussion about them because I know nothing about them. It's that simple.

>> No.38889684

>>38889485
>No data
I swear it was a tie between iofi and Risu.
I wonder what was their average and median before myth.
>Top and bottom switch over
Guys I wonder if
Future top ID2 : Anya
Future top ID3 : Kaela

>> No.38889885

>>38889353
Most of them is 3 view. Moona start to incline to 4 view after playing minecraft and Risu start to incline after november. Idk about iofi because i don't watch her

>> No.38889911

>>38889353
ID1 was basically Risu up until PekoMoon, and then Moona after that. Iofi has always been a sidekick

>> No.38889943

You faggots can't keep this thread alive without
>OMG gVys HoloID 1s dy1ng!

>> No.38890007

>>38889684
>Anya
She's the only ID2 who still keep inclining (even tho so slow) and has reached 4views territory now while both Ollie, and to some lesser degree, Reine are keep reclining so it's unironically possible
>Kaela
I think ID3 is more like JP3 when each member excels at different areas but still have amazing numbers with Kaela in donos and Kobo in CCV. I don't know about Zeta tho
>>38889943
Rude

>> No.38890036

>>38888090
So YOU ARE a newfag

>> No.38890074

>>38890007
Cope and seethe

>> No.38890107

>>38889679
Smaller chuuba have no power /here/ unless they specifically pander to the people /here/. example : bea

>> No.38890169

>>38887982
>our yumefujo is self-hating ID and doesn't care about local males (most of time they hate ID males)
Are you projecting? You are one of them, right?

>> No.38890189

>>38890007
it's not rude if it's true

>> No.38890252
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>>38889684
anya was already became a top ID2 during rust arc
she became holoID powerhouse during those era
sadly, the moment rust hype died down, so does her momentum

>> No.38890390

>>38889181
I forgot 4 of 9 HoloID love to saviourfagging stars...

>> No.38890463

>>38890007
zeta could be the rushia of holoid
but she's too scared with the schizo

>> No.38890487

>>38890252
Anya can become the top ID2 when minecraft arc happening but sadly she doen't have interest in it
Hololive audience crave the interaction among members and it will also generate a lot of clips to boost the algo

>> No.38890544

>>38890390
Not anymore, thanks to tempiss I mean tempus. Don't forget to also thank Kronii and obnoxious Indonesian incest-lover Altventurers

>> No.38890602

Awanchama, did you forget that we're in /vt/?
We'd be good if this is /vtg/ and we don't have to face catalogbaits far worse than this

>> No.38890618

>>38887446
>more like afraid if they will hire male ollie or oblivious simp halu who tried to caper to HoloJP/EN girls
I know you
Go back to /MANS/

>> No.38890644

>>38890602
>>38889943

>> No.38890792

>>38888521
Jwu
Where the fuck are all these women coming from?

>> No.38891086

Anyone tahajudan here?

>> No.38891275

>>38889247
I might be a nijinig but boi that Andi clothing is a top tier merch I'd love to own, but yeah I guess this is another factor why niji left ID, I guess we're getting too smart for their template merch kek

>> No.38891736

>>38887446
This is you, right? https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/38809610/#38828148
Tempus is problematic too but you supported them. Your boys are abandoned by HoloEN and now hated by HoloEN fans. Don't makes us HoloID fans hates you too. What are you doing here? Go back thot

>> No.38891986

>>38891275
Seriously has anyone from niji release other type of merch ? all i see is they are using the same template merch everytime

>> No.38892171

>>38870004
it's been on my mind since the silhouette thumbnail; i can't help but think that the pink jacket and white shirt pays homage/refers so much to Gita Melodia. and the pink on the palette? Definitely Tsuyu Hortenshia.

Lovechild is real


Noobs may think it's a reference to Bocchi The Rock tho

>> No.38892251

>>38891986
I'm not sure anon, the last thing I heard was that they were even downgrading their quality for template merchs, I guess this is why they're shifting for Kpop-ish fem fans since they're less likely to complain bout it

>> No.38892595

>>38890792
They are always /here/, anon.

>> No.38892596

>>38889943
truth

>> No.38892865

>>38892595
But they are not regulars. Andi femanons and cupang are

>> No.38894804

>>38892865
They could be lurkers, who knows.

>> No.38895957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2C6Q8kt5Us
divegrass watchalong lrt's go?

>> No.38897010

>>38875278
...yknow she is that certain reincarnated nun chuuba right..?

>> No.38899132

>>38897010
Looks like she's taking a diff route to avoid falling to that problem again if it's her

>> No.38901786

>>38890169
Nta, but he's right. Most of our local yumefujo are self-hating ID.
Go visit /cbdct/ there's plenty local femcel and femcorn there who hates the idea of starsID and their reason
>I hate indo males
It doesnt have to be /here/, yumefujo outside /here/ also self-hating.
Why do you think there's not much popular male chuuba ? On top despite merging the ID luxnocfag dont wanna watch exnijiID males

>> No.38901927

>>38901786
could confirm this on behalf of twittards

>> No.38902478

>>38890792
I know this may be shocking to you but there's plenty of indo femanon on 4chan, outside /vt/? there's a lot of them.
literally my female friends is huge 4channer and visit /v/, /tv/ and /cm/ daily.
hell, there's some indo femanon in /int/ too.
This site isn't sekrit club, anon.

Anyway, let's promote some ID chuuba, post your 1-2 view indie oshi

>> No.38904104
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>>38887982
>if they behave like Mori, Ollie and Manca kw.
Mori is not Indonesian and she's female.
Ollie is unironically less of a beggar than Kobo, asks the sisters in /cbdct/ who they hate more among those two.
I don't know what's wrong with Manca. I'm on the camp that likes him.
It doesn't seem like you are a catalog dweller either, since it's more usual to answer
>if they behave like Tempus / StarsEN instead of StarsJP.
I mean
>StarsJPs are cool and StarsENs are not
Is the general consensus of /vt/
Sigh
I don't know why StarsID talk is coming unprompted, we have talked about it before. why are we discussing it again? This is timelooping
Maybe you were not there, I have said that I don't want Cover's total monopoly of ID market. I don't want StarsID because I already have male Oshis. Andi, kururu, raska, also Rafel, Ruki and Ave to some extent. I want them to grow without starsID stupid intervention. I like Moona and Risu but it doesn't make me a braindead brand loyalist penyefong Yagoo
What a bad morning

>> No.38904273
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38904273

>>38890792
I’m always lurking here.
I want starsID to happen because it will make all people from any side SEETHE.
>this board will seethe because indog homostars
>holoid fans will seethe because that means their whores will collab with them a lot
>numbers will be full schizo
>self hating ID will seethe
and I don’t want them to go full brotuber (actually I don’t mind brotuber, cus i like tempus) and simply yumefujo-leaning because it will make kikebookers weeb seethe because most of ‘em hate what women likes and /cbdct/ sister will seethe too because another cute boy being whore collaber.

StarsID is just fantastic because they’re like singularity that will make people absorbed to them but instead they will relentlessly seethe them. I have no choice but to support it if that means it will make this board and this general burn.
And more cute boys for me, no problem. I hope they’re menhera too so I can saviorfag and grooming them.
I don’t care if they’re flop (2bh they still doing better than most ID male chuuba even if they’re underperforming) I just want a cute chinkdo and pribumi boy to fulfill my fantasy of yaoi ship of Chinkdo x Pribumi troupe. No one will stop me from drawing them getting buttfucked and commish smut fanfic of them. Can’t wait to make ritualposting of them kissing desu!

>> No.38904875

>/warkop/ can stay alive if the topic is revolve around holopro (holoid and starsid)

>>38904273
i fucking kneel fujosister.
i feel the same, dont care about stars id but i enjoy the shitstorm it will ensue kek

>> No.38905067

>>38904273
Anonchama, we have NijiID

>> No.38905350

>>38905067
I watched them and they're too boring for my taste. And not menhera enough for my taste.
Which one of them is chinkdo?

>> No.38905734
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38905734

>itt holo fags don't want StarsID
>But Nijinigs begging for it
Nice psy-ops, nijisister
Your gift cards will arrive soon

>> No.38907188

>>38890007
>Anya is the only ID2 who still keep inclining (even tho so slow)
Slow and steady!!

>> No.38907325

>>38890036
ok, maybe it's a hyperbole but saying Kaela and Kobo is not inclining past her debut is retarded
>>38890463
she's also a nice girl and doesn't want to exploit schizo like rushia

>> No.38907382

>>38890618
that femanon was always /here/ kek. she always said the same thing

>> No.38907733

>>38907382
I don't remember her, who's her indie, small corpos and holo or Niji oshis?

>> No.38907815

>>38907325
>but saying Kaela and Kobo is not inclining past her debut is retarded
Nobody said that. It's in your head

>> No.38907872

>>38907733
idk, maybe it's a different person but everytime there are discussions about starsID there's always that 1 anon who actively againts it because "they gonna flirt with the girls!!".

>> No.38908009

>>38907815
yes you are >>38887948 in response to this >>38887891
unless you only disagree with the ID2 argument, in that case use green text next time

>> No.38908137

>>38907872
Well that anon is a hypocrite. One of her beloved men is literally suspended for only God and Yagoo knows what. I will not be surprised if he's graduating months for "creative freedom" like Coco.

>> No.38908516

>>38907872
Nta, but isn't that just major consensus why people against starsID? Pretty sure I saw in fb and twitter the reason they paranoid for starsID were because of that exact reason.
I am neutral toward starsID but I think both sides are too extreme, one is too hateful at the idea and the other one is delusional they will be giga succesful.
Anyway it's useless talking about that anon is X and such because there's chance it just people trolling or copy pasted others argument.

>> No.38909034

>>38908009
HoloID is jumping from low 5views debut and 3views post debut numbers (ID1) to mid 5views and 4views post debut numbers (ID2). how was that disappointing? It's a HUGE leap / success for the branch as a whole. The leap from ID2 to ID3 is much smaller with the debuts suffering from overlap except for Zeta which doesn't surpass Ollie's 62k. If you're an oldfag you should remember how everyone was pleasantly surprised that myth success is also helping HoloID.
>>38889278
>>38889485

>> No.38909787

>>38908516
>major consensus why people against starsID?
I also don't want StarsID but it doesn't change the fact that the anon came from tempiss general and she's a self-hating lonte

>> No.38910623

Do we have /x/ chuuba yet? I think horror chubba will do well on ID market, idk if there's already one. I love listening to horror podcast so please tell me if there's local horror chuuba.
>>38909787
Just fucking drop this already, no one cares if that anon /mans/ sister or ollie schizo or something. To me that anon just reek of catalogfag when he brought up ollie and mori, Ollie has plenty of schizos parroting same shit. People who watch Ollie already know she's tone down her simping.

>> No.38910822

>>38905350
you may not believe this, but riksa/jukut is sundanese chinkdo with Sukabumi as his birthplace

>> No.38911170

>>38910822
>spoiler
What HIM? Ok, i will watch him now.
Do he's being "extremely close" to one males in his branch? This is important.

>> No.38911591

>>38908516
eh... if we got stars, they'll just be subjects of harassment by the girls LMAO

>> No.38911864
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38911864

I caught the witch
>>38910623
>Catalogfag
A catalog fag would bring up StarsEN instead of Manca
It's a fucking vestie
>>38887767
>when I watch that Vesper's stream
She was also here look at picrel. It's not an Indonesian Altventurer, Magmite, or Axelotl

>> No.38912592

>>38911864
Nigga, I think you're more schizo about this.
That pic doesn't convince me anything other than concerned femanon about starsID. Btw I was there during that convo so I know the context
There's a also local catalogfag anon, I think you dont know how this site work, arent you?
Just fucking drop this shit which contribute nothing but fueling more schizo, jfc.

>> No.38913316

I dont like where this thread direction going, just drop this guessing retarded anon is Xfag topic and talk more about ID chuuba, ok?

>>38890463
Rather than scared, Zeta simply dont wanna cultivate that type of fanbase or she just want to do what she like without having to being parasocial with her fans.

>> No.38913381

>>38912592
I will anti tempus and their fangirls from now on

>> No.38913766

>>38913381
Why are you acting like a fucking child having a tantrum

>> No.38913819

>>38910623
I think no, tried search on youtube it just some chuuba read one time horror story but no dedicated horror chuuba yet, I will watch too if there's dedicated horror chuuba.

>> No.38914079

>>38913766
Hey that's my choice. If you don't like it go to /MANS/ and cry about it. Tell them how indomales are bad and you don't want StarsID because of me

>> No.38914151

selamat pagi awanchama
looks like my decision to not post the ritual works. we get the traffic, warkop is alive!!

>> No.38914162

>voice in my head tells me this random anon is actually what I think it is, just because I say so and there's no way its a troll!
So much expecting good thread in the morning
>>38913381
Dont care and fuck off, faggot. Dont bring your shit here, go being anti tempiss somewhere.

>> No.38914404

>>38914162
You are the faggot for watching tempiss

>> No.38914531

>>38910623
>>38913819
>horror chuba
I've been saying since May that horror content is a goldmine, especially for male chubas since a shit ton of indo woman loves horror / mystery / murder case etc (enigma blog, breaman, detective aldo, conan, all have big female fanbase) in Indonesia. If you have good voice and just make a podcast talking about some horror or myth shit and you have big potential.

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Funny thread

>> No.38914799

>>38914151
/warkop/ is thriving, 2nd most influential VTuber discussion group after Penyefong VTuber!

>> No.38914942

>>38914531
exactly, I am shocked no one has capitalizing it yet.
just get good ikemen model with hot voice, and you're set.
There's plenty good local ikemen artist mama too.
I am dying for local /x/ chuuba regardless if its male or female chuuba

>> No.38915206

>>38914531
Nessie Judge also has a lot female fans too despite being female horror content creator.
Women seems drawn toward spooky stuff in general

>> No.38915564

>>38915206
Kobo's horror story maro is her weakest content tho

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38916663

/warkop/ is alive, but at what cost ...

>> No.38916709

>>38916663
I blame women

>> No.38918305

>>38916709
We should now rename this thread into Lambe Turah General.

>> No.38918316

>>38916663
it's just free bump
>>38915564
because both the maro and kobo herself is not good at making horror content. also mchan is the worst at picking maro yes, i'm salty that my creepypasta didn't get pick

>> No.38918401

>>38918305
it's still warkop, just in that rare occasion where ibu ibu gossip gathered

>> No.38919138

>>38918401
>Ibu ibu gossip
>getting paranoid over a ghost branch which existence is not even confirmed yet by Yagoo
>Letting it rent free
>A sudden shift in discussion about ID males
Why are these women so tsun tsun? Why can't they straight up say it when they want something? The tsunest tsunderes in this thread can't even think straight without doing mental gymnastics

>> No.38919889

>>38919138
>Why can't women be direct with what they want
Anon, this question has been around for at least since humankind knows how to write. It's just their natural state of being

>> No.38920352

The important question is not where the femaleposters come from, but rather who are they; VTuber fans or actual VTubers?

>> No.38921590

>>38911170
idk who people homopair him with but if you can try watching this nekopara catboys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZ2NKvzMq4 (pre-route)

https://youtu.be/QnIg02874_c (pre-route + Fennel Route, Taka)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyCPGi7_FFI (Sage Route, Riksa)

https://youtu.be/W6yA5YulSmY (Dill Route, Rai)

https://youtu.be/EvuFh7fxPuI (Laurier Route, Reza)

>> No.38922459

>>38920352
>who are they?
Why would actual female Vtubers thinking and worrying about StarsID? It's not like they have a chance to Collab with them.
>How many of them?
Is more important.

>> No.38924743

i will derail this thread with a kobo scat art (someone post this at /ehe/ too)
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/103575459

>> No.38924868

Thread is dead
Post more baits

>> No.38926105

https://twitter.com/ProjectLivium/status/1602877826536919040

chibface livium Pillows

>> No.38926137

Kobo happy cover
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK78JU18SxE
>YT original uploader (38hr ago) 150k views
>https://www.tiktok.com/@roronoa.d.widi/video/7176535881975745819
>Tiktok random reuploader (21hr ago) 270k views
another example of why you should advertise your content or chinktok

>> No.38926223

>>38926105
>https://twitter.com/ProjectLivium/status/1602877826536919040

they seems inclining, are they good? never watch them desu

>> No.38926815

>>38926223
I only watch Aneki (Yuura) and Komandan (Silvia), so no comment for the other 3.
Komandan streams are kinda basic (let's plays, reactions, zatsus, your usual menu), but the gimmick of a tsun chuuba is IMO her selling point for me. It seems that most of her audience is bocil though, and the chat can be quite cringe.
Aneki is also basic, but at least she has this Bedtime Stories stream that she does somewhat regularly, and her latest karaoke streams has some kind of lottery system with different prizes such as voice contents, song requests, and even stickers, so she definitely got some knack for doing creative stuffs

>> No.38927328

Awanchamas, the treerat has spoken, tf happened with ID3? Yea I guess we all know what happened with Kobo and since she's /here/, she def took notice of that but if Ela or Zeta suffers from the same thing too then what exactly is it?
https://youtu.be/4EbsTQyt50A

>> No.38927439

>>38927328
its us, we are the problem :(

>> No.38928249

>>38926137
They won't watch streams tho

>> No.38929557

>>38926137
>Tiktod numbers
It means nothing tho just look at Kizuna Ai

>> No.38929616

>>38928249
Kek, reminds me of that time we talked about this malechuuba who has tons of views on shorts but when we tried to see his streams, he's a mid-tier 2view

>> No.38930921

>>38927328
Her gen, especially her, always kinda overreacts toward beggars. I remember how she will always delay her karaoke stream if someone begs for it in her chat. Then again, beggars really need to tone down their demands since I also find how annoying it is in Ela's chat too thank god her experience dealing with bocil is extremely extensive so she can handle almost all of it but I can't say the same for Kobo and Zeta

>> No.38931950

>nijiyab again
Hold our thread awanchamas

>> No.38933584

>>38931950
>Graduation
Israel?

>> No.38934992

>>38931950
Eh I don't care of it's dead
Half of the thread is shit anyway
A new thread is better

>> No.38935275

https://twitter.com/alenkainventra/status/1602929782983122944?s=46&t=g1tLIULYQj8XgyL5BLt-Hg
DigiKagi chads are winning beeg!

>> No.38935397

>>38935275
>DigiKagi chads

>> No.38935617

>>38935275
Silver button skuyyy

>> No.38936284

>>38935275
to think that Alenka only debuted 23 April 2022 but already surpassed 11 Livers of nijiID and just 1600-ish subs behind Amicia Michella. Looking at the collective effort behind the scene, that's quite the achievement for some of the staffs who jumped ship from NijiID

thank you VRChama for the sheet, i happened to dig data there and use temporary filter view for a brief moment to post this

>> No.38936655

>>38914799
>PenyefongVtuber
Go back

>> No.38938250

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_ID/status/1602974178780528640?t=xN2KPSfhgB7ieQmsjM7wjg&s=19
ehh whats wrong why is it delayed again ? japan has already opened up their border right ?. also im not a nijifag but didnt hana already got her 3D debut ?

>> No.38938351

>>38938250
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Cupang debuted her 3d before hanmak, this is just embarrassing for enikara

>> No.38938786

>>38938250
Idk, my guess is that since yugo's grad and her 3d debut is 2 days apart, they choose to delay Hana's stream to not sour the mood on stream or something like that.
Anyway, it's no wonder that NijiID didn't have any growth since the merge. No one would feel happy to support a group that always get the short stick by their own company

>> No.38938906

>>38938786
Now that you said it, I guess that's a good thing to do, the last thing you wanna see is an interbranch fanwars

>> No.38939152

What happened to yugo?

>> No.38939201

>>38938906
It almost happened, even. There was a sentiment by Niji-exID fans against NijiEN (particularly Ethyria) for joking about graduation at the time when Miyu was days from graduation.

>> No.38939258

>>38939152
She wanted to be part of the 41%

>> No.38939359

https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1602981681815764992
Miti punched a creep, I'm proud of her.

>> No.38939842

>>38939201
Meanwhile Millie being part of Ethyria was also a day one ottagang jej

>> No.38940187

>>38939258
Qrd?

>> No.38940352

>>38939201
>NijiexID fans against NijiEN
Kekw.
What can they do anyway?

>> No.38941434

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKfR1qDqGk
WTF is this stream title siskuy?

>> No.38942697

>>38941434
She's taking a break because of fever and toothache

>> No.38942770

>>38939201
>Ethyria
Wasn't it just Nina?

>> No.38944307

>>38942770
Okay, it was mainly directed to Nina, but some still thought of Ethyria as insensitive.

>> No.38945706
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Bump
I lol'ed at their Kungfu Monke noises

>> No.38945748

>>38944307
>Some
Majority or minority?

>> No.38947218

HARAPAN PAN PAN PAN

>> No.38947281

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oCwRiCJJ0
She what?

>> No.38950101

>>38929557
I mean, it's not like she's active anymore

>> No.38950994

https://twitter.com/ReynardBlanc/status/1602938648533815296?s=20&t=Bw9qRnCd4eoV13nFalI0pA
Re:Memories joint singalong???

>> No.38953225

>>38950101
I mean ofc before her graduation where she was still racing with Gura to reach 4M subs. Her tiktok vids' views always almost reach millions but her numbers in youtube, either her subs growth, her views in her main channel or CCV in A.I. gaming, were all grim

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About Yugo's termination by ANYCOLOR... You can say... Yugo kena PHK...

>> No.38954427

>>38953783
wait what ?? dafuq

>> No.38955033

>>38953783
post this on twitter for free death threats

>> No.38956629

>>38858223
Maybe the thread is alive not because of all the talk about Holo ID, but because of this booba.

>> No.38957360

>>38956629
Nah, but because of this >>38914151

>> No.38960586

>>38956629
i love booba

>> No.38961138

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7oT2vnq-ng
Allez Perancis!

>> No.38964304

bump

>> No.38966350

>>38953783
Warkop is not a NijiEN thread, femanons. Please stay as lurkers or post about local chuubas.

>> No.38969063

>>38957360
humbala anon...

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have a bump from /kr/.

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>> No.38975818

>>38961138
RIP Morocco, the dream is dead
>>38969063
Eh, i think other than the loop about StarsID and some anon witch hunting poster X the thread is not that bad. I enjoy the discussion about holoID especially about local buying power.

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I 'don't care' if a chuuba is having a girlfriend or wife in real life. They are virtual characters, i treat them as virtual characters.

Essentially, i think vtubers main selling point are dreams, fantasy and illusion whether it's a homoship, a heteroship, BFE, GFE, virtual friendship or normal celeb worship. Of course there are people who don't think like me, like AKA virtual fans who are fine with face reveal and I think it's totally fine, it's good to see there are diversity among vtubers and fans.

I think treating chuubas as virtual characters has its own merit. I'm okay with relationships as long as I don't see your virtual self promoting and airing it on streams. This why I'm not a fan of Akemi and this is why I'm a fan of Andi. Andi as a virtual character is forever single / jomblo. It started off as a joke maybe to appear more relatable to other male weebs but It's pretty much become an inseparable part of his image. Heck, i consider 'Jomblo' is Andi's lore now. So i feel safe and think he would never have a virtual girlfriend. Don't announce your relationship's official status, that's what I mean.

From business point of view, it's just better to throw subtle hetship crumbs once in a while because hetshippers are not shipping you just with one person. If you make your relationship official, you are killing your other ships.

People are often looking down on unicorns and yumes. They hate unicorns because unicorns are controlling aspects of Chuubas personal life. I think those criticism are more deserved for people who simps the flesh-selves behind the characters. Moona have some acute unicorns who are like that. I'm not criticising fellow moonabitos because I'm myself is not any better. At one point of my life i'm an acute Yume. I know how hard it's to have such feelings. Getting 'cured' is not as easy as saying "take your GWS pills". In the first place I thought I was safe, i wouldn't be 'that type of fan' but in end i was wrong. So who knows, you could be next.
>Just get a boyfriend or girlfriend and you'll be cured.
No, this is not working on me. If I could simp more than one male oshi and being a Yume to them at the same time, then having a boyfriend only makes a little difference (although the symptoms are lessened)
It's complicated and selfish. I want them to stay single but I couldn't be loyal and stay single or commit to just one oshi. This is inhumane and one-sided. So this "vtuber's virtual self and real life self are different and should be treated differently" is my way to be compromising and be more tolerant. I keep reminding myself, it's just business and entertainment and I'm just a customer.

But there are some cases when i feel contradictory. I felt semi-lied to. "aren't you unnecessarily being too professional? you are not a vtuber" that's what I felt. it's kind of ridiculous because he technically never lie. i mean in Japan, it's normal for 'that' to have Yumes. it's just that it kind of ruined my "vtuber's virtual self and real life self are different and should be treated differently" principal. i was in a chat where his Yumes are openly bucin to him, while his girlfriend was blending in with the rest of his fangirls. she wasn't jealous AT ALL, at one point i thought "that's wonderful" but then flipped to "what's wrong with her?". Those fangirls have no shame sending embarrassing messages while i felt like a pelakor. i was wondering how many of them choose to keep silent like me and how many don't fucking know about it. He's never uncomfortable with it or ever warned that he has a girlfriend. it's the opposite he's OBVIOUSLY encouraging Yumes. Their exchange was also strangely cold, he's not excited to see her, his reaction was too flat like as if she's just another friend or acquaintance. she's also similar to him.
that's when i realized that he's a manipulative incubus. i don't know... there is a possibility that it was unintentional. Despite of that, i can't bring myself to hate him and his girlfriend.

since I have directly experienced that kind of professionalism, i wouldn't be surprised if the rrat is true. Andi and Alia might also be like that but I would rather be kept in the dark. because i still want to freely send cringe bucin messages to him.

>> No.38976866

>>38976279
I ain't reading all that
Happy for you tho
Or sorry that happened

>> No.38978243

>>38975818
NijiEN (and Tempus) femanons should watch and support Niji-exid boys first before demanding and begging for StarsID. But I guess if their whole reason for begging is to make everyone SEETHE, it's safe to say there's no serious demand for indo male chuubas (at least for Holostars)

>> No.38978768

>>38976279
its a mental illness

>> No.38983966

Pagi?

>> No.38986133

>>38975818
> Many retarded things happen in all matches
>Dark horse giving great match early on
>Swiftly defeated near the peak match
Truly vt league level of world cup kek

>> No.38987169

https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1603162914738692096
What do you think?

>> No.38988612

>>38987169
Lively and lovely.

>> No.38990817

give me +62 chuuba who do decent asmr with no yuri baiting and no sub only

>> No.38993101

>>38990817
Zeta? I always loved her roleplay ASMR and her voice is nice to listen too

>> No.38993451

>>38956629
You know what the irony? No one talk about the booba owner kek

>> No.38994429

>>38993451
Because she doesn't have fans /here/

>> No.38995086

why some people can't treat vtuber just as another form of entertainment?
what is the difference between "emak nonton sinetron" than the majority of people here?

>> No.38995456

https://twitter.com/DinaMostarterra/status/1603208223611392001
https://twitter.com/YmeliaMeiru/status/1603208224362078208
https://twitter.com/YozakuraYuura/status/1603208225620299776
https://twitter.com/SilviaValleria/status/1603208227428175873
https://twitter.com/diralarissa/status/1603209883066638336
What are Livium up to? Snow Halation?

>> No.38996440

>>38994429
Lol
I'm curious about her more but since there's no one talk about her i'll step back and back to holo niji discussion

>> No.38998178

>>38990817
>Decent ASMR
Unironically you'd try fleshtuber tho I don't know any ID who does that
>>38993101
She's still amateurish but she doesn't lean on ear-licking & ear cleaning bullshit too much nor yuribaiting at all so I'll give you that

>> No.38999740

>>38995456
All I Want For Christmas is You cover?

>> No.39001211

>>38998178
i suggest Kiraa ASMR, she has 2D avatar so maybe it count as vtuber

>> No.39001353

>>38978243
I'm a day 1 Tempus fan (membering two and regularly superchatting) and was a longtime viewer of NijiID; they're even the reason why I'm in this rabbit hole in the first place. I still want to support them but eversince the merge happened I absolutely lost any interest and hope in Nijisanji as a whole. I
also always dislike NijiEN males and their fanbase.
The reason why I love Tempus and Holostars as a whole is their streams are enjoyable to watch and they make music. I finally found someone I can call my kamioshi in Tempus and not because he's a bule or goes the yumefujobait route, but because he's such an entertaining, fun streamer and have so much passion for music. Big huge plus that makes me so attached to them is that they have amazing merch, same goes for HoloID; I absolutely despise Nijisanji garbage merch and as much as I wanted to support my old faves, I don't want to burn my money and support that kind of business model.
I would love to have StarsID and support them, not because of petty reasons or because I want them as the other branches' new toy, but because I want our hardworking local male chuubas, especially indies to get the exposure that they deserve. I believe it will push the growth in local market as a whole like how NijiID (RIP) and HoloID did before.
We have a lot of great quality male chuubas, but unless cover has money to burn and is ballsy enough to experiment with an even smaller and unstable niche market, it's gonna be a while until there's hope for StarsID. But despite that, I will still wait patiently for them.

>> No.39001483

>>39001353
post tits or gtfo

>> No.39001600

Character ideas for StarsID
> Truck Driver / om telolet om
> Jamet / illegal street-race shota
> Phone store sales boy

the'll debut as HoloCooly (holo kuli)

>> No.39002337

>>39001600
>Kuli
>there's no construction worker
Wtf? But I like the idea of working-class hero like this tho doesn't their hypothetical theme resemble ID3 too much?

>> No.39002590

>>39001353
>membering two and regularly superchatting
This is an information that could get you doxed. Be careful
Oh I thought no one is serious about StarsID. I thought all of you are shitposting or baiting kek because i thought I'm all alone here. So you all are lurkers, i didn't think of such possiblities.

>> No.39003417

>>39001353
>StarsID will push the growth in local market as a whole
I agree. Some anon are afraid that StarsID would kill the growth of local male indies but that's seem dumb to me. If cover somehow manage to launch starsID succesfully i'm sure some male indies would also get boost. Never underestimate the power of FOMO and bandwagon. Even the selfhater ENmales fujos can change their mind if starsID can get the hype.

>> No.39004178

>>39001353
Been seeing this trend among other exIDfags since the merge, interesting to see anons here has similar sentiments post-merge
>still loves local livers, despise enikara
>locally nijifags, but would lean into tempus in EN
>disgusted at NijiEN, especially Box and Kindreds

>>39003417
This tho, remember how Luxiem paved the way for other malechuubas to grow in EN like shoto and at times rpr? If starsID can become the next boom you can bet the rest will follow, just look at the current market, older smol corpos like Yume or Metanoia has mixed gender waves bcuz they were inspired by NijiID, while recent smol corpos like Livium and DigiKagi are all girls bcuz holoID has taken over the trend. So to say that starsID would be detrimental for other IDmalechuubas is doubtful at best

>> No.39004271

Kobo's birthday merch set has 2300 initial stock with 1804 sold out so far. On the other hand, other HoloID members always understocked their merch so they always sold out in minutes. Which one is better for maximizing profit?

>> No.39004559

https://twitter.com/circle_aoi/status/1603332702626684931
>new wave
Can AOI redeem themselves?

>> No.39005137

>>39004559
Yet another new wave? That's really quick of them.

>> No.39005213

>>39004271
is that all stock from all site? any breakdown?

>> No.39005854

>>39005213
1910 in holoshop, 90 in geekjack, 300 in tokopedia.

>> No.39006796

>>39004271
For ID levels that's insane, kobokerz I kneel

>> No.39007163

>>39004178
>anons are still helplessly waiting for Yagoo to save ID malechuubas market
Uuhh why do the Blue Doritos matters a lot to you?
Are you all tired of NijiEN and Tempus fanbase being racist to Indonesians? I mean I can see how you are brainwashed into self-hating by the toxic men in those threads. But you can't leave because you like the sense of community it gave. You like being in a big fanbase and liking a local indie male won't you give you that community. I wonder if it's such the case

>> No.39007553

>>38994429
There's not much active ID /vt/ users that has an ID oshi that is not from Hololive or Nijisanji. Even as a Simpthia I stick out like a sore thumb here.

>> No.39009006

>>38999740
Kino if true

>> No.39010001

>>39004271
how much stock other ID have? obviously it's better to have more stock if you can sold all of it but a lot of unsold merch can be bad too. i think kobo's stock are fine but other ID definitely get way too little stock. i think kaela and zeta even get less stock than before even tho it's always sold out and that's really dumb.

any data about id3 6 month merch btw?

>> No.39011021

>>38994429
Yet

>> No.39011377

>>39001600
>>39002337
There's already a farmer male ID vtuber as your working class vtuber, he joined the Muse ID vtuber group, dunno if he's still there.

>> No.39012211

>>39004271
>Which one is better for maximizing profit?
Depends, you can't generalize things like this. There are costs that we would never know about, like how much is the cost for making the merch from the factory, the logistics, etc.
Though if Kobo made 2300 and the others fewer than 500, it's obvious that Kobo makes banks compared to the others.

But Kobo's merch is significantly cheaper, look at hers in Tokped only around 600k while Ollie's priced more than 1M IDR (and only sold out three times lol). So her profit might also be significantly less.

>> No.39012320

>>39011377
> farmer
Perhaps you're referring to Risotto
https://youtube.com/@risottong

I've seen him here and there, he feels more like... freelance-ish? Not really tied to Muse, AFAIK

>> No.39012466

>>39012211
>her profit might also be significantly less
revenue, not profit. ollie's merch is 1.5M IDR but there are way more items and also clearly more expensive. we don't know the profit margin, so it could still be more or less the same or just slightly higher.

>> No.39014457

>>38858223
hot

>> No.39014578

>>38871010
>>38875316
Need more lewds plissss

>> No.39015016

>>39014578
https://twitter.com/extridentalt/status/1602931615016964096

>> No.39016374

>>38871010
>>38875316
>>39015016
Based

>> No.39017503

holy fuck we reached bump limit
hurray i guess?

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