/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

That fauna funnel both bae and moom 6k get

Kek the difference between a funnel and a raid

So what did we learn last thread?

>>38861053
Recent clip numbers
>>38814950
>>38814970
>>38815012
>>38815033
>>38815056

At this point, the only thing HoloEN has over NijiEN is the ability to join 3D Lives from other Holo members.
However, it seems with Lazulight and Hana 3D debuts, HoloEN might lose that advantage over NijiEN soon.

Wait.... are number reclining across the board?

I just want to point out that Ike is Swedish.

>>38860540
big/inclining indies either stay independent or orbit vshojo and other established groups as call-ins for content now

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>55,852: Miko (Hololive)
>40,085: Pekora (Hololive)
>35,945: Lize (Nijisanji)
>29,658: Mito (Nijisanji)
>26,368: Ayame (Hololive)
>25,787: Lamy (Hololive)
>20,592: Tamaki (Noripro)
>19,929: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>19,128: Nene (Hololive)
>17,889: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>16,189: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>15,991: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,920: Akira (Nijisanji)
>15,591: Kobo (Hololive)
>15,471: Flare (Hololive)
>14,803: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,352: GatchmanV (Indie)
>14,192: Mio (Hololive)
>13,088: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,955: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,196: Watame (Hololive)
>11,982: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,804: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,555: Meloco (Nijisanji)
>11,425: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,944: Hex (Nijisanji)

>>38861155
>the only thing HoloEN has over NijiEN is the ability to join 3D Lives from other Holo members.

I would still prefer HoloEN over NijiEN because of the fucking stability intstead of sink or swim bullshit that Niji provides

>>38861083
alright /#/ who comes out on top when all is said and done

>>38861191
That's unfortunate but he's still been able to accomplish a lot with his life and I think that's commendable.

>>38861122
The raid actually doing jack shit for them huh

>>38861229
Moom is at 6.5k and Bae is at 6.1k. Moom wins this.

WE NEED EN3 RIGHT FUCKING NOW
JUST HIRE FILIAN AND SHYLILY ALREADY

>>38861135
Holo ID > niji id

>>38861053
>>38861079
>>38861143
>feet
nice

>>38861290
>SHYLILY

>>38861229
Pretty sure it would be Millie's birthday unless something else happens in CN time tomorrow.

>>38861229
Bae since she will stream for at least another 4 hours.

>>38861155
I do find it hilarious that nijien is catching up in 3D debuts, although I hope that seeing them do it before is a bit of a wake-up call for Cover to investigate EN. Managers seem nice but they can't do much on the decision-making part.

>>38861258
man I can't believe we're just one week away from EN3. Time sure flies by right guys?

>>38861275
Nope

I think is time to finally leave this thread, forget about numbers and just enjoy my oshi's streams. It isn't funny when we are losing. bye numberbros

>>38861331
kobo

>>38861290
>FILIAN
roru
>SHYLILY
don't think she'd want to

>>38861331
Millie is a chinese vtuber so she doesn't count for the EN tally.

I wonder how the talents who applied for EN3 a year ago feel right now.

tempiss collabs would help girls stream again

>>38861306
>olivia
love her resting ogey face

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1602498892372787200
Did we talk about this yet?

>>38861354
Farewell, nijifriend. Better luck for your branch in the new year.

>>38861290
Filain is too big for Hololive. Cover waited to long

>>38861290
No. Filian isn't even a good streamer she's just hyper specialized at VR chat. Shylily's content would be completely nerfed in Hololive. She's incredibly boring to actually watch if you're not into coombaiting.

>EN3 is actually already hired
>They're just doing extreme team bonding and idol training
How would you react?

>>38861326
She's like, though.

>>38861135
The thread really does become good the moment nijiniggers were banned

>>38861354
See you later kindred

The talk about Shu wishing he was in Hololive instead of NijiEN got me thinking. Why don't we trade Kiara for Shu? Kiara keeps shilling NijiEN shit and Shu is depressed because he isn't in Hololive. Everybody would benefit.

>>38861346
>Loyal fans>tourist

Nijikeks hated this fact.

>>38861199
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 -Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Mio, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
228x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
23x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38861135
The sisters are mentally unstable.

So out of 7k people only 1.3k or so got funneled?

>>38861341
Kek, let's see if Chronoir 3D will have Luxiem or Noctyx.
On the other hand, top-tier HoloJP like Miko, Marine and Suisei will be rushing to invite Mori, Gura and Ame.

>>38861450
>en whores
>doing shit
Nope

>>38861290
>shylily
>ever giving up react and reddit meme reading streams

>>38861450
So that's where Gura has been, she's been running the bootcamp for a new gen of NOMALES-faction idols... Teaching them her ways.
If one of them doesn't laugh cutely enough, she yells at them so much they cry. They're subjected to Clockwork Orange style Pavlovian training to vomit at the sight or sound of a man.

>>38861155
Even with 3D they're very unlikely to get the same opportunities to use it when compared to a holo.

>>38861450
How would I react to what? I'll react to them when they debut. It doesn't matter what they're doing now if no one knows about it.

>>38861326
>>38861384
>>38861437
>>38861443
>>38861535
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Filian, Shylily
WELCOME TO besiktas

So, what caused the nijiniggers to get uppity again in the last thread?

Based on this year and last year, debuting around mid year is always the safest bet.
>Salome
>Tempus
>ILuna
>HoloID 3
barely got any subs cull, even if there was a subs cull it was miniscule and can be ignored.
Meanwhile
>HoloX
>Council
>Luxiem
>XSoleil
got multiple cull around their debut.
EN3 really missed their chance from debuting on mid year

>>38861482
Holostars is a dead brand and while Shu is inoffensive he doesn't have the kind of star power that would make Tempus relevant. So he gains nothing and loses the Luxiembox and Hololive gains nothing.

>>38861290
Shut the fuck up. The best time to debut EN3 is right after Holofes and if you can't see that or trust the plan than you are an idiot.

>>38861522
I'd say it's more around 1.8k-2k

>>38861506
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
225x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
33x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa, Korone
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>>38861482
Switch that to Mori for Pomu and I'm on board.

XSoiled status?

>>38861601
There's always next Summer in 6 months

>>38861608
No, JP7 would be perfectly timed for 4th fes

>>38861601
>EN3 really missed their chance from debuting on mid year
Let's be honest here we all knew why they missed the boat.

>>38861290
shondo would help, GGN girls too

>>38861450
They must be extremely united right now then, given that they would have been bonding for almost a year now (judging by how previous gens said that they sat in Discord for 6 months before debuting)

>>38861645
As much as Mori is repulsive changing her for Pomu is a negative for Hololive

>>38861662
Wining this month cripple gold

>>38861601
Cover is dumb. They wasted summer holiday buff for Tempiss

>>38861443
I still think /lig/ gets raided by her discord or some shit when she's on. That place legitimately doesn't feel organic whenever those fags take over

>>38861608
This but JP7

>>38861306
What the fuck. Are those STUDS on her eyeballs?

>>38861598
You let them feel comfortable in the thread, what did you expect?

>>38861662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANYfJ1eBpS8

https://www.bilibili.com/read/mobile?id=20403834>>38861729

>>38861443
Coombaiting would be enough to keep her popular

>JP7
There's already too many JPs as it is.

>>38861662
Winning another cripple gold or silver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4vgYxle2z4

>>38861729
Okay and what are you going to do about it? I've been here longer than you, faggot. Just accept that we can coexist.

gold? https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1602506839689777152

>>38861761
I love her already

>>38861681
>Filian
>ShyLily
>Shondo
>GGN sisters
Is this the KINO gen that's going to save holoEN?

>>38861761
So she is just like every other niji girls?

>>38861290
CHRISTMAS WEEK or after Holofes
TRUST THE PLAN.

>>38861707
remember the magging?

>>38861885
If she beats Ayame game totsu

>>38861854
No you haven't
And if you faggots didn't consistently shit up the board so much the board ended up hating your chuubas by association maybe coexist wouldn't be just a meme

>>38861935
Are they all that good?

>>38861761
>>38861891
I want to bully her over her accent.

>>38861935
DO the other Nijigirls do lewd moans in their streams? I thought they were prudes that pretend to be edgy

>>38861948
I've trusted /#/ too many times
I don't wanna get hurt anymore...

>>38861811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZhZk_psfMk
with the holo audience?

>>38861559
I read Pavlovian as Pavolia and thought of Reine fucking them until mindbreak.

>>38861921
>Filian
She's not even that entertaining as a streamer. If her focus is just going to be shorts she'll probably just end up as the next Laplus, but even worse. No thanks.

>>38861948
I want another hololive Christmas miracle

>>38861987
Much better than HoloJP whores, most of the NijiJP girls are pure, chaste and overall entertaining.

>>38861891
Me too. As an irystocrat, I'm changing my oshi

>>38861962
remember twitch takeover or whatever the fuck that was?

>>38862019
Me too anon, me too...

>>38862027
H-Hot

>>38862020
>Forgetting about the loathsome

what was kobo's peak?
cripple gold will probably be luca since he is playing fotm horror

>>38862049
Yeah, she really is superior to IRyS in almost every way, without the throat baggage and the yabs.

>>38861155
wake me up when a nijien surpasses Gura in subs.

>>38861921
The only one (well, two) I will take from those 4 is the sisters. The rests just either don't seem to fit Hololive or are too risky

>>38861981
keep seething holokeks.
there are more and more and more and more and more people join the niji side and you can't do anything about it kek.

>>38862161
She will be after Thursday, at least

>New Hologirl
>But it's for HoloEarth
https://twitter.com/taiki99/status/1602482730876342272

>>38862031
Filian's edited vids are the best ones any tuber's putting out. She's the Coco/Chama of right now.

>>38861948
>TRUST THE PLAN.
What plan? Waste more Hololive money on the WNBA of vtubing that is Holostars?

>>38861662
Dominating. Doppler and the jap girl have potential.

>>38862085
Looking back they REALLY tried to help them incline. Though in the end you can't forcefully change the brand's culture and their numbers ended up reclining instead as the novelty wears off.
But if all else no one should ever say that cover didn't support them.

>>38862153
Kobo doesn't matter for EN tally but Millie got 10.1k which should be beatable for the fotm game.

>>38862211

>>38862049
same
she is way more interesting and comfortable to watch than iyrs

>>38862253
kobo is easy to track so im adding her.

>>38861608
You guys always say “it has to happen after holofes” but you literally never provide anything to even back up that opinion. Please tell us, anon, why waiting another 3+ months to debut after you’ve just breached the longest debut drought in holo history? We’re at 16 months now so please explain why 20 months without a debut is ideal.

Also, before you say anything, just keep in the back of your head that NijiEN have debuted 26 talents in that time period and are about to have their 1st year anniversaries soon for luxiem

>>38861921
>Shondo
She'd make Kronii look like a paragon of mental stability.

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>12/12 DAILY TALLY
11,555: Meloco (Nijisanji)
10,018: Discount Vox (Nijisanji)
9,410: Fauna (Hololive)
7,640: Baelz (Hololive)
7,255: Mumei (Hololive)
6,738: Vox (Nijisanji)
6,728: Ver (Nijisanji)
6,466: Selen (Nijisanji)
5,194: Kyo (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Yet another Nijishitty "return" stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 6
Nijisanji - 6
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
3x: Gura
2x: Mysta, IRyS
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Meloco

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
18p: Gura
15p: Mysta, Fauna
10p: IRyS
8p: Hex
6p: Mumei
5p: Selen, Maria, Meloco
4p: Mori, Kronii
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver
1p: Petra, Vox, Shu, Meloco

>>38862240
>WNBA of vtubing that is Holostars
Unironically a perfect comparison

>>38861921
get the ggn sisters and let them hang out with irys in japan instead of that fat bitch mori

>>38862242
No, Doppler looks like a flop rn, already dropped to 2-3k. Hex is the one with potential.

>>38862314

>>38861891
You going to change her for new oshi toy after 1 week just like that jew gura.

>>38862316
And yet there is a Tempus collab in 15 min that will BTFO all of the girls stream. Curious

>>38862151
this one's story about birthing a 7-day turd keeps being brought up in detail multiple times though. There's another one she keeps telling about gassing a grocery store's isle if some resident /ringo/fag can recall as well.

Does anyone know if listening to music (on YT Red/YT Music) while watching a stream will still count my view?

>>38862314
OH NO NO NO NO HOLOBRONIES???

Once HoloEarth comes out, Hololive mindshare will reach its zenith so why would Cover try expanding their streaming roster anymore?
Make a successful games, let the JP talents adverstise it and all the EOPs will flock to the Holo brand regardless. There will be no need for HoloEN or ID anymore.

>>38862308
debuting them in the next three months is retarded because audience interests in such things always die off over Christmas and New years, and February would get overlapped by valentines which makes March the earliest viable debut month and oh hey guess what's happening in march?

I want any word including '-kek' to be banned. Gosh

>>38862308
Isn't the january-february streamer drought a thing for chuubas as well?

>>38862314
Cute and sexy. All welcome the new EN favorite of /#/

>>38862448
kek is the text equivalent of the Selen image attached

>>38862448
kek

>>38862448
stub:no;/.+kek\b/i

do /#/ watch streams? or do you just look at the viewership graph?

>>38862445
>get overlapped by valentines
no one cares about valentines.

>>38862384
>BTFO all of the girls stream
>all
Bet your balls

Moona on Millie stream

>>38862494
I'm watching Mumei talk about cockgobblers while shitposting in other window, does that count?

>>38862448
Go back to discord/twitter/reddit. This place isn't for you

>>38862384
Will they also btfo all of the niji streams too?

>>38862494
I only drop in to glance over the bickering after SEA hours.

>>38862547
Well, it will happen sooner or later i guess considering their past connection

>>38862496
Shut up cuck

>>38862494
I watch Mumei, Meloco, Selen and Rosemi's streams. Does that count?

The Melon>the hope slut

Moona singing for Millie

Moona..

>>38862606
i mean no cares enough about valentines to not want new debuts

There is a youtube conspiracy against HoloEN that is making their numbers artificially lower.

Moona...

>>38862384
I only care if the combined power of 4 faggots can actually clinch cripple gold today. Otherwise yes they're wasting their spots.

>>38862226
>>38862615
>>38862293
So, were you faggots all the Ennaschizos?

>>38862677
One of them, yes

>>38862402
I know, and Kobo told a story about eating shit. Seems comparable.

Does Susan really hate fauna? There is no way this clip only had 13k views. It was one of the funniest moments on that stream.

>>38862639
>>38862663
stop doing this, she's not doing anything wrong

>>38862249
If Cover supported them Vesper wouldn't have had to fight management

>>38862712

>>38862761
>Sexual harassment is fighting management now
go back to /mans/, sis

>>38862712
Clipper's skills issue
see>>38862774

>>38862326
>ggn sisters
>in japan
nobody tell him

>>38862666
It's not going to get 10k. 7-8k max

>>38862712
youtube trannie sabsilutely hate hololive but they were caught completely off guard with myth thats why myth was able to growth relatively without obstacles. By the time council debuted they already had implemented countermeasures for their insane popularity and culled them to hell and back.

holo gold contenders

>13 Ayame birthday
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>16 Hana 3D debut
>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>38862761
He DM'd Pekora twice. He's lucky he wasn't terminated.

Just as a reminder the writing general is two blocks down

Bae just overtook Mumei again despite the SNOTBOX funnel

>>38862761
>covering for sex pests
they're not otk tho

>>38862864
Mumei went into SCs retard

>>38862864
>superchat reading

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these streamers include
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>38862610
According to Youtube that means you're only watching one stream. Which one of those it is will forever be a mystery.

>>38862864
Mumei on SC reading

>>38862861
But what if I want my fanfic to make numbers?

>>38862639
Shill dude, they are long-time friends.

>>38862894
I'm only watching Mumei right now, of course. Regarding that matter, though, probably the last focused tab

>>38862249
Cover didnt even give them good models

I wish we signed Melcoco instead of IRyS...

>>38862712
How does YT algo work tho?

>>38862983
is this the new shitpost angle now?

Reine in Millie stream

>>38862983
>i wish we debut en3 instead of tempiss
FTFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKAHMZ8OvxQ
Get in here unicornchad!

>>38862864
What reading graphs does to a motherfucker

reine too on millie stream

>>38862974
Thats just Cover having bad taste

>>38862983
I wish we got Kotoka, Meloco and Zaion instead of tempus

>>38862240
Kek

>>38863019
Melons vs Hope is the new hot thing for shitposters

>>38862974
As it deserved, the additional resources should be for the girls. The fact that no EN3 in sight means Cover just hoard that money for themselves.

we love meloco and roboco here

>>38863019
"I wish we signed (insert some niji) instead of (insert some holo)" is always shitpost material

>>38862970
>probably the last focused tab
It's Youtube, so assuming that logic is applied is a mistake

Reine....

>>38863100
>for themselves
Its for holox

>>38863115
I meant IRyS is usually paired with Enna, this is the first time i saw someone paired her with anyone but Enna.

>>38863100
>He doesn't remember HoloEarth

>>38863173
They're both JPs in an EN branch that like to moan on stream. It makes sense

>>38863173
New bait material
I believe meloco can sing so she is used by shitposters for usual IRyS baiting material

>>38862712
Clearly not that funny

>>38863173
After the Kyo thing there's no way anyone would want Enna in Hololive. She would get shit on by the fans.

>>38863221
Is HoloEarth even a guaranteed success at this point?

Did Kobo have the biggest Holo totsu ever?

>>38863256
Views all went to another clip
>>38862774

>>38863291
It's not a guaranteed anything.

>>38863335
If you are counting just Hololive members and not the outsiders than Bae's was bigger.

>>38862879
>>38862885
>>38862896
>On SC reading
>Still above where she was before the Fauna funnel
So she has no tourists now huh
I wonder if a schedule would help

>>38863291
Sure why not? Holodrones would buy anything if their oshi is attached.

>>38862998
Idk, but I think "fauna" is an existing word so yt doesn't recognize fauna as ceres fauna and that's why her clips barely pop up on the feed.

Lofi with Millie now

>>38863173
Irys isn't on either of their level.

>>38863507
Numbers increasing through the roof.

>>38863291
>Genshin clone
>guaranteed anything
lol no
the only certain thing now is that yukimin will buy it to /become/, other than that nobody knows

>>38863335
did the numbers of guests over 60? if not, Ollie still hold the record

LOFI

>management only allowed Millie to invite four holos

>>38862445
First off, if you think interest starts to generate in the idea you’re thinking of after March, you’re dead wrong. Gura didn’t start to incline back up to 20k until /May/. Not April, and certainly not March. And many within EN did not see much until May/June as well.

Also, what you’re trying to caclulate is how many people will be attracted by holofes to get interest back in EN so that there’d be a good response for a new gen. What you fail to consider is that:

1. The people interested in holofes are EXISTING FANS, not outsiders, and certainly not fucking English speaking outsider
2. The longer without anything for the branch, the more it bleeds

What you’re asking for is essentially the Ame strat of taking 2 months of planning for a stream, taking multitudes of breaks and multiple cancellations, culling her fanbase for that ONE BIG STREAM to bring in… just her old viewers she lost. That’s just retarded and nonsensical.

There’s a thing called tempo, and it’s integral that you keep the momentum when everyone around you is pushing hard and accelerating. You can’t just relax and wait for “the right moment” because that moment will end up happening when you’re already bleeding and left stranded. Meanwhile, if you cut your losses and debut them during a period where nothing much goes on, you can build up rhythm to start the year, establish metas that can last year round, collabs that keep fans entertained and draw interest for the festivities OF holofes. How do you think Mumei inclined so hard from March? Do you not consider that bringing new fans in to watch these huge event streams with 70k+ people watching will get them hooked on the idea of hololive? Or do you want a branch limping to the finish line when you got multiple fucking agencies appearing, fans searching out indies and nobodies as well as peeking interest in places like nijien?

>>38863495
COPE, normalfags just don't watch her because of her cringe kawaii uwu voice.

>>38863173
There are more similarities between them (JP blood, both hot & cute, can sing well, living in JP and get decent numbers) than the EnnaRyS pair, plus Meloco is the new promising member right now

>>38862230
I hope her name is like mei

>>38862020
Yes
Bring back pre-2020 Hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqHs4VTb2FU

>>38863614
And people still say that Niji is that one kneecapping HoloxNiji collabs lmao

The discord leak and its consequences have been a disaster for the mindshare.

>>38863586
Oh man..ollie's birthday...i remember the last time i watch ollie's birthday, she invited connor and he had the gull to do it on the toilet and told ollie to hurry up

>>38863691
Millie's manager, retard.

>>38863495
Eh, if you search the word fauna on YouTube with no account or history you mostly get the vtuber.

>>38863694
I'm tired of sharing my mind

>>38863659
As an IRyStocrat I'll watch both. Meloco is a good member of Niji if only because she's JP.

>>38863081
Really? Look at their past lives. I guess if you don't mind Mumei and Fauna joining hololive you wouldn't mind these degens join hololive too.

>NijiEN b2b cripple gold
How do we save HoloEN

Stupid millie, she is gonna recline after holo collabs.

>>38863753
Is it my turn to use the one briancell?

>almost a million in under 3 weeks
>literal no one

What the fuck?
https://youtu.be/qPvo6BxRhME

>>38863761
internchama...
you glow...

>>38863659
>Meloco gets decent numbers
>Meloco is the new promising member
Chill the fuck out. She has had one fucking stream on a game that is tourist bait as you approach the end. Her debut 2.0 was one of the lowest among the new wave which all of you Meloco fags seem to ignore. I'm saving all the Meloco posts for when she inevitably becomes a borderline 3view like all the other NijiEN females.

>>38863841
>briancell

>>38863815
Get the few talents it has to do their fucking jobs.

>>38863891
Brian Cell AKA the perfect being.

>>38863877
This is a b2 chuba btw, and she called her audience to watch this on youtube.

>>38863743
I'm just confused why her clip views are so poor even though she is #2 in ccv.

>>38863694
petra you toxic bitch

>>38863888
I think it was a lot of JP tourists after the rumors started spreading about her PL. Time will tell if any of them stay.

>>38862844
Still sperging your old debunk rrat, huh...

Grim

Does luis enrique know about hololive? He knows about esports, xqc and etc.

>>38864075
StarsEN 2 candidate?

>>38864061
>Debunked
with what?

>>38864066
Should peak around 7K. Pretty normal for Tempiss

>>38864066
>their poll has 1k more people than the ccv
Interesting

>>38864066
the homobox is still 6k it seems

bae was 5 viewers away from 7k

bruh

>>38864066
Not much without the girls buff huh

>>38864170
Show image retard

Is it just me or YTalgo has been in favor of nijiEN lately?

>>38864185
Unless someone has another explanation it looks like she actually took a hit from the Tempus collab starting.

>>38864125
You mean holoes1 with football kino.

>>38864213
nta but

>>38864185
it's fine, mumei is ending soon

>>38862384
Yes, very curious indeed >>38864066

I love my WifeRyS!

>>38864256
Bae is in the homobox so it makes sense

Guys, I think I might give this Meloco girl a try after you guys keep posting about her here

>>38864256
Climax of the debut of Queen (Makoto and her Motorcycle Persona), people bailed after

>>38863677
I forgot how jittery Matsuri's model used to be.
Cute.

>>38863965
That's already more views then she got on blbl even with their completely made up and inflated numbers, and her streams have barely 4 digits of same completely made up numbers, assuming that 万 means the same in chink as it does nip.

https://space.bilibili.com/1025491703/

Bae and Mumei end your streams whores

>>38864336
Shylily is a better ESL to try, anon.

>>38864307
7k polls out of how long?

>>38864256
Bae and Kronii are in the tempus box

>>38864384
7800 votes in 16 minutes for a 6600 ccv stream seems normal to me.

>>38864212
Sort of. It's like a shotgun, lots of smaller pellets to hit the target. You click the live tab and there might be 6 nijis listed and maybe 1-0 Holos. Holo will always be at the top but if you don't like their design, what they're playing ect you will click one of the other streams.

>>38864336
Oh yeah, totally

>>38864314
she's tumbled down to 6.1k

>>38864336
Watch vshojo instead.

>>38862712
>>38863652
>>38863495
>>38862774
>>38862809
>>38863256
NOT MY VIEWS
NOT MY NUMBERS
Stop caring about clip views, she is a streamer anyway.

>>38864412
And M*ri

>>38864307
Arrepiéntete pecador

Gura bought Nijisanji dip. Now shes sabotaging Hololive

>>38864384
18 min, up to 8.8k with a 6.6k ccv.

>>38864431
I have never clicked on a NijiEN stream. That sounds like a you problem.

>>38864307
alv perro

>>38864463
no

>>38864430
Yeah that's perfectly normal, probably even a bit low.

>>38864327
Hey that’s my wife!!

>>38864465
Isn't that a bad idea?

>>38864458
This is numbers sweaty
Don’t like it? Go back to /uuu/

How do we save Hololive

>>38864460
Mori is in no box

>>38864531
I made this post

>>38864506
You are not everybody. We're talking about randos looking for stuff to watch not people already steadfastly dedicated to watching one company.

>>38864256
Nope
She was prevented from getting the 7k because there was a regional lag of some viewers in her chat, you can correlate this later when the archive is up by seeing people spam the buffering symbol in the livechat
As for the viewers going down, that was mostly people waiting for Makoto's awakening (big story moment) and they left after they saw it

>>38864430
>>38864496
Oof yeah, and people still calling cope for any indication of en cull.

>>38864557
Hololive has better day to day numbers and a more dedicated fanbase but Nijisanji has far more potential and a much further reach. The max draw is more important than the average.

>>38863965
Is she moving to youtube?

>>38864597
People looking for Hololive streams aren't going to click on a NijiEN stream idiot.

Nijification is working on YT already? I was recommended a fuck ton of Niji clips despite using incognito

>>38864605
Do you have the graph to confirm?
Other girls also had susan issues but they recovered their numbers no problem.

>>38864531
>>38864582
>>38864327
Why is your wife dying right after new design, anons?

Can Tempiss 10k if Mumei and Bae end?

>>38864582
Oh yeah? Well have THIS

>>38864656
>The max draw is more important than the average
>Max draw of 491,342
For once a Nijikek made a good point. Now I await the moving of the goalposts from you.

>>38863641
>Ame strat of taking 2 months of planning for a stream, taking multitudes of breaks and multiple cancellations, culling her fanbase for that ONE BIG STREAM to bring in
Going on a tangent here but why does Ame keep doing that?

>>38864671
We're not talking about people looking for Hololive streams we're talking about people looking for streams in general. People looking specifically for Hololive streams do not need and are not effected by the algorithm.

>>38864708
Maybe in Votes, that shit has some churn, I predict a maximum of 8k

>>38864708
Why the fuck can't they do it themselves
Why must they repeatedly rely on the girls

>>38864708
No shot, they would get a 1k funnel max.

>>38864656
Well the max draw of Hololive is Coco's graduation, that means Hololive has much more potential than Nijisanji

>>38864327
>>38864531
>>38864582
>>38864735
I WANT TO HATE FUCK THIS DUMB WOMAN AND HER WORRYING NUMBERS.

>>38864736
Said "max draw" is no longer available as the main draw of that event already left, though

>TEMPUS 7K BABY!!!!!
>Kiara mogged
>Mumei mogged
>Ena mogged
>Bae mogged

>>38864735
I am so mad at you that I am going to make you deal with this

>December 2021
>number of over 10k streams 12/12/2021
>Hololive 266
>Nijisanji 41

>December 2022
>number of over 10k streams 12/12/2022
>Hololive 138
>Nijisanji 106

Bros...

>>38864796
>rely on the girls
lol you guys are a relic of a past age. If you dont like TEmpus why are you even still here?

>>38864909
should include out of how many stream

>>38864909
Holy recline & incline...

>>38864341
Yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz6pPCHu4Rk

>gura
dying
>kronii
dying
>ame
dying
>ina
dying
>mori
lmao
Mumei and Fauna are the last hope of NA

>>38863952
irystocrats...

>>38864185
I should've turn off my adblocker...

>>38864786
#ameway

>>38864985
Nope. Fauna leaves after wednesday

>>38864557
>Nijisanji get big numbers with either big events with almost every nijis participating or graduation
Communism?

>>38864933
weak bait, have a (you)

I want the boys and the girls to do well away from each other.
I support gender segregation.

>>38864909
Those missing 128 10k+ streams, all gura

what's the most reliable way to import some lamy water

>>38865003
Will Niji win their first cripple after 7 months?

>>38864673
Eh, I never log in and don't save history and I've always got one or two Niji streams in the recommended bar even though I never watch them. It's been like this forever.

Good numbers from Tempus. It's amazing how much they recovered after Vesper came back. All of their numbers have improved. He really carries the entire branch.

>>38864909
Hololive has no professional pride, no competitive spirit. They're not even trying to be at the top of the industry. It's one thing to be supportive of other vtubers, quite another to give them the keys to your house and let them run away with your career.

>>38864898
Hail TitRyS and her fat, plump meatbags

>>38864956
Anon, that sounds like ratio cope to me

>>38862890
https://twitter.com/BerylLeRou/status/1601469002790113282?s=20&t=VjHlOGHbF45yNu8Q6PrH1g

>>38865109
The Tempus box is like 1k Axel fans, 1k Altare fans, 2k Magni fans, and 4k Vesper fans.

>>38865109
well magni was sick and axel was in jp
so now they can get the ball rolling to their usual numebrs which isnt a lot.
they will collab first with themselves before going back with the girls.

>>38865149
That's a valid suggestion, though

>>38864909
Two things
How many debut/graduation both company had this year?
And compare to last year, is there any difference?

Not this shit again

>>38865015
All of hololive JP and two ENs only got 201k.
>>38864736
It comes off more as a fluke and Cover really can't use a graduation as a pitch. Nijisanji could easily use Koshien. I love hololive but it's pretty obvious whos ceiling is higher.

>>38865087
It would be embarrassing if they didn't, the stars are completely aligned in their favor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npo_VnOjfMY
>777,777 sub

>>38865068
Same but I think the small bits of crossover that we have in things like the Zoomer vs. Boomer dynamic, Kronii causing psychic damage to Vesper, and Mori getting along well with Magni adds to both experiences even if they almost never collab in the future

>>38864909
Do we have how many of them are from EN, JP or other branches?

>>38864909
>December 2023
>Its over...

>>38864985
with fauna going on break i guess it's up to mumei to save holoen..

>>38864909
number of streams though??
this means nothing so far

>>38865087
>literally top streamers sick
>had debuts
>have luxiem anniversary
>holoen wont have any special events probably until after new year.
if they dont win the month they are doomed

>>38865109
Looks like it's started capping out before even reaching 8k to me, and I think this is their first big collab since his suspension isn't it? I'm still betting on them doing worse after a little bit and the "suspension buff" wears off. Vesper was getting worse and worse views on HIS OWN content before that, and since he's the big hitter that's a really bad forecast for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPBKvB3wBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPBKvB3wBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPBKvB3wBg

>Another FGO

>>38865324
ratiocope

>>38865282
No, let them be separate

>>38865321
Unironically grim...

>>38865282
Bae's collab with Vesper was hilarious and is the perfect way to execute a collab like that. Bae seems to get it while the others don't and that is why she doesn't get nearly the flack for collabing with Tempus that the others do.

>>38865353
the what now? retard
give number of streams or fuck of with this irrelevant bullshit

>>38865337
To be fair, this is their what, third fucking time playing this fucking game? They really need to stop rehashing the same fucking content. They are 4, not 5, they don't even get crippled because there are actually more 4 player games than there are 5. I'm not sure why they stick to the same shit.

>>38865352
>easy to stream with minimal setup
>lots of turnout
What's not to like from her point of view? Though she probably shouldn't spam it so much.

>>38865218
Does this only happen to Fauna? I haven't seen it for other people

>>38865274
>sing!
A zatsudan is better than this.

>>38865410
Nah it's their first full Mario Party collab

>>38864909
NijiJP is going strong and HoloJP is reclining. December of last year was really good for them though.

>>38865274
She have over 7K subs to get, it's going to be a long one

>>38865467
I swore they played this shit before because another collab game went under, and then the one with Mori

>>38865498
Opposite, they scheduled Mario Party for the first week but it fell through so they played L4D2 instead

>>38865498
Yeah, with twitch streamers iirc

inclining

>>38865274
when will she take the hint that people hate her singing

>>38865498
It is the third time Tempus members have played Mario Party, but it is the first time they do it full gen collab with it, they couldn't do it before because Axel had shit internet in Australia so they decided to do it now that he is in Japan

>>38865087
Maybe, maybe not. Let's be real. If Gura decides to go on a streaming blitz like she did in October than Holo wins. NijiEN needs Gura out of commission to even have a chance at winning.

https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/36301837/#q36304091

OCTOBER

>GOLD PER STREAMER
14x: Gura
4x: Fauna
3x: Vox
2x: Luca
1x: Ina, Ren, Mumei, Mysta, Mori, Elira, Amelia, Kronii

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
73p: Gura
29p: Fauna
27p: Vox
17p: Mysta
15p: IRyS
14p: Mumei, Mori, Amelia
12p: Luca
9p: Elira
8p: Kronii
6p: Ina, Kiara, Fungus
5p: Ren
4p: Baelz, Magni
3p: Enna, Selen, Noir
2p: Shu
1p: Maria, Nina, Regis, Pomu, Yugo

EN3?
https://twitter.com/anelles_/status/1602483449499197445?t=0E7cBO2OAPyfAJHpIuoBsA&s=19

>>38865605
>31st december
even assuming she's indeed EN3, it means we won't have anyone at least until late january-early december which is still fucking grim

>>38865547
Clear proof that NijiEN box has grown quite a lot over just a year

>>38865580
You could ask the same thing to the green whore who does karaoke as if people give a shit to hear her singing like a dying child.

>>38865274
pachinko

>>38865547
>reclining whore mogs all except Vox and Ike at their peaks
Are niji bday streams a debuff?

>>38865605
That's two potential EN3 talking about January. Although the chuuba who's also a rigger is a toss-up, she might not join a corpo again.

>>38865547
HoloEN

>>38865761
no, they doing a totsu is new

>>38865592
>14 golds
>73 points
So this is what happens when Gura actually streams. Holy fuck I never want to hear another Nijikek say that NijiEN is bigger than HoloEN.

>>38865592
I wish she streams more, but i doubt it

>>38865605
>genshin clips
nah

>>38865492
7k?
She's ngmi, she would have to stream for 10 hours or so

>>38865547
Its really inspiring Nijisanji rose from nothing while Hololive had all their success handed to them thanks to the Eekum bokum girl and are now declining because they enver deserved their success in the 1st place

>>38865605
I FEEL IT IN MY BONES

>>38865802
Too bad she doesn't stream any longer, then

>>38865798
newfag who has only been into v-tubers since the beginning of the year. what caused amelia to have such a big drop?

>>38865415
That's her #6 FGO stream this month already anon
And that's not counting other Fate stuffs like watchalong and what have you

I wish she can play Tsukihime or Melty tho

>>38865798
Ame's 2nd birthday was during peak CCVID iirc

What's your prediction for Ina's graduation?

>>38865856
Chink and their revisionist, name a more iconic duo.

>>38865856
Yup. HoloEN was meant to stand on the shoulders of giants but they sat down. HoloJP walked upstairs in stirrups and HoloEN walk down in silk slippers.

>>38865888
That is why I said maybe or maybe not. If Gura decides to stream regularly for the rest of the month than HoloEN wins the month. It's that simple.

>>38865802
wao mogging pekora

>>38865926
0 because she's already dead

>>38865547
Nina...

>>38865541
Ah yes, the one with Vesper "While you're having pre-material sex, I studied the blade" Noir

>>38865913
Inconsistency in streaming times and schedule

>>38865926
70k-100k

>>38865913
She had the first birthday post Myth debut and it was prime Amesame/unity era. by 2022 Ame was an outcast

>>38865856
Where the fuck do you people come from? Fucking hell.

>>38865933
Hololive was already on top and was doing amazing before HoloEN. HoloEN helped out f9or the first few months but since they've been on a very offensive decline. HoloEN had a silver spoon in their mouths since day one.

tempus are making it to 8k

>>38866049
It's true, HoloEN started at the top because HoloJP worked hard to provide the opportunity. HoloEN squandered it.

>>38865979
That's rather alarming if one branch's performance relies that much on one individual, then. You can remove any of NijiEN members and the group's performance wouldn't have been affected as drastically.