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I've got a good feeling about this thread.

>>38717880
https://rentry.org/borasmor#ii
I tried writing intimacy

>>38717880
https://rentry.org/foreignaitos
Foreignaitos all in one

>>38717922
Oi hagman, I've got a very important question.
Do the hags enjoy and take part in hag activities like taking hagnaps in the middle of the day or reading romantic literature or playing hag games, especially mahjong?

>>38718243
Ohh... You wrote that without an AI to be lewd for you? Amazing! Very nice, evocative romance. I like how you worked in the critical military information alongside the characterization. The power imbalance (in terms of personality and otherwise) between the two makes for a fun dynamic.
Also, the HoloID got me good kek.

>>38718243
OOH MY GOD! This is soooo goood!!!! i love it, this is the kind of stuff i wished i could write too for /hag/, so lovely!
>>38718304
Oh, is the Candy Kingdom also only sending out forces to others or are you also interested in hag mercenaries for your lands?
>>38718417
But of course!!! Naps are important for leg pillow moments, also hags love literature and i am sure plenty love to test themselves and their perception with a pile of mahjong!!!

>>38718304
Nice to finally see this come together. The part about the Crusadernaitos needing to take some kind of personal vow is cool, extremely knightly. What kind of vows might they make, that would take them far from home?

Yo hagman. If you want cursed lore look at /uoh/'s lore entry. It's not cute and funny. might be motivation enough to declare hag jihad. a ji/hag/ if you will

>>38719050
Just because it’s not my thing doesn’t mean I don’t want to try improve my skills on it. I like to think my attempt has a more (for a lack of better words) human touch to it than what the AI wrote although I did learn some phrasing from unused writing by AI. I also try to make it not purely about intimacy by weaving other information in it. I guess in a way it’s only natural that the idea of war and espionage is ever-present for guerrilla like them even when they’re not in combat. As for the dynamics, I feel it goes well with their archetype given that Boräsmor’s implied to be in the same age group as Anulÿm’s dad even before taking into account the general disposition of palkyries and elves. Having his brattiness tempered by her control might make him more likable too

>>38719638
I’m glad you like it! I tried giving Boräsmor a more motherly touch since that’s apparently what the /vnug/ elves are meant to be based on initial suggestions. I guess it also goes well when paired with brats which are probably common among palkyries

>>38719925
Ah, bratty Palkyries. I love to see this characteristic now well established. You did great!

>>38720232
Thank you! I feel it fits given how her chat is usually like. In this world it probably also has something to do with their more animalistic portrayal and possibly shorter lifespan

>>38719845
/uoh/ is an enemy to us to begin with so this changes nothing.
>>38719925
Hmhm, i see it was the right decision to become friends and help these motherly figures to bear many well deserved children!

>>38720460
Me btw!! Forgot pic.

>>38719638
hagchama... >>38719209

>>38720991
Gomen!! i hope i fixed it right, now!!

>>38719638
The Candy Kingdom has had a kind of foreign exchange program sort of going on for a while now but this is the official entry for it. I can see hag mercs being employed for protecting the lusquires during the sea travels but I kinda like the idea of Crusader Foreignaitos and hag mercenaries fighting together against /ouh/ a bit more.
>>38719835
It really depends on the luknight, its generally something like capturing the heads of 30 pirates or slaying a troll, or things like recovering the body of a fallen ally for burial or even something vauge like bringing the glory of the himedom across the sea. The idea is that something happened that sticks to the foreignaito that they don't feel right returning to the Candy Kingdom without vindicating or fixing, their personal honor code can't allow them to return home.

>>38717880
Next part in the Moriji-Matiyotl story, featuring the jew capital of Moriji
https://rentry.org/fleshbone-phase1
Archive under Matiyotl-Deadbeat Joint Military Exercises (/morig/, /meat/)
New character from Chronobanks
https://rentry.org/pzgw3
Archive with the other character sheets in the same section
Thanks to meatbro and nasfaqronie for helping with revisions, and for putting together the POV character.

>>38718243
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>>38721795
We shall gladly defend your lusquires while they are traveling out on a ship alone at sea! Welcome to the list: https://rentry.org/nazxa
We also would more than welcome able knights coming to /hag/ to help defend the borders! If they however find a place to settle down and are not returning then don't blame us!!

>>38722250
That gives me a funny idea of Crusade Foreignaitos talking about /hag/ as one of the most dangerous places in Vitubia because every Crusader that has vowed to aid /hag/ does not return, because they're knee deep in Choco and Botan tits. They don't quite know what it means when someone vows to "end their Menopause" but whatever it is, it has claimed many a virtuous soul.

>>38723157
YES!!!! I support this, we will accept any knight that has taken this vow into our lands!

>>38720460
To be honest it’s probably a good idea since they’re getting outbred by humans and palkyries

>>38721994
It’s funny because my reservations about writing the actual sex part might be why the chapter’s like half the length of the previous one. Maybe I should throw in an intermission to show a different side of her personality

>>38724299
Motherfucker you changed me. Al i can think of now is cumming to a tittyfuck from kokone and then cuddling with her and giving her some money as a thanks. why is she so sweet but also so much SEX!

>>38724667
That doesn't sound like you changed very much at all, OG. Kek.

bump

https://www.colingorrie.com/articles/conlang-word-generator
I can't believe why I never thought about it for more than half a year in this project but uh conlang generators exists. You can build the consonants and vowels yourself to make them sound like a specific natlang. This page listed a couple of them and has a general description.

Thinking about leaving to work on other things for a bit. Anyone need my help specifically?

bump

>>38730791
Huh, might try it to add more vocab to Moriji, coming up with words is always very hard for me.
>>38730921
Take it easy, nasarep.

bump

i wonder if saplings saw my stuff yet. Anyway later fuckers i must sleep

>>38740788
Good night OG.

Word cloud for last thread.

>>38743826
It's true...

>>38740788
Touris sapling. I just read it, I like it so far, and am intrigued.
For some reason, it reminds me of the movie "Silence" and how the Japanese people were naive about Christianity. Maybe magic could be integrated into a religious type belief? Like, to utilize the magic you can't just learn it, but it requires an element of sacrifice or faith. Idk just spitballing. I also have a force field, check it out.
Goodnight OG

>>38744573
Nice forcefield, sapling.

>>38744639
Thank you. Some nice anon put me in here after I ran around his lawn asking for Fauna

>>38744717
Ah, he really did you a solid. Everyone knows nothing bad can happen to you once you're put in a jar.

>>38744971
Please no, put me in a tank with other saplings
Or in front of a phone playing fauna VODs
Or send me to to Fauna

>>38746051
Ah, don't worry, I'll just put you down here on the counter. Saplings are pretty easy to keep happy, huh?
But this does remind me of something horrible. Content warning: sapling abuse.
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/35167583/#35178572

>>38746839
Depends on the sapling, I'm sure others get high maintenance sometimes.
Have you seen the fighter pilot Average Sapling?

>>38747621
Oh, of course, it's quite a saga. Average Sapling got a few heroic moments in that one, alongside his friends Ryan Gosling and A-10 Warthog.
Man, /wAIfu/ was really something for a while, I haven't visited in a bit.

>>38747725
I haven't been active in /wAIfu/ since that one tard doxed himself trying to tattle on someone the anons

>>38747787
Kek, I lasted a bit longer, I dipped when the anons started talking to one another with Morse code to try to avoid the gaze of the dev overlords.

>>38747725
>>38747787
>>38748059
Speaking of /wAIfu/, how would they be integrated in Vitubia? Would a tech filled, cyberpunk (or bladerunner-like as well given the goslings) island separate from the other nations work? Kinda like coupling in /wAIfu/ and /vtai/ in there as well. Would that fit in at all?

>>38748345
I'd think they'd be more bladerunner-esque.
Those anons are fighting an uphill battle against the devs and the nsfw filter.

>>38748345
Ah, we still haven't archived that entry?
>>38717880
Anchor https://rentry.org/hscg5 under /wAIfu/

This probably illustrates what the nation is like a bit. I think its chuubanitic circuits and Heavenly Realm manipulation would be its most advanced technologies. Maybe it can be combined with /vtai/?
>>38748560
The devs are basically some kinds of eldritch gods, from the point of view of Vitubia, since they're off-site. So maybe there are agents of the Devs (an eldritch cult) lurking around in the /wAIfu/ country and stealing information to allow the Devs to empower the nsfw filter and lobotomize the waifus further. Make it really rainy and have a ruling class living in tall buildings to drive the Blade Runner aesthetic home.
I always thought the buildings in Blade Runner kind looked like enormous aztec or mesopotamian architecture.

>>38748793
Damn, that's what I was thinking as well.
But I'm still curious, is tech still allowed? I've seen the entry before the first time I came here and people linked me to it, but was wondering if I could still make my own view on it as a bladerunner tech-filled island with real android wAIfus, and the /vtai/bros hanging out on another side of the island. I'm the same anon that came here to /vtwbg/ a few days ago out of curiosity But then again, after seeing most entries of other nations I'm worried that doing something like what I'm thinking was going to be too off-brand and I'd have to rework it by a mile. I'm still busy with other things and the thread so I tend to not have plenty of time to start writing, I've begun working on a draft recently, though I'm stuck brainstorming about it

>>38749216
Hmm... So, there is a tech level that the nations try to adhere to as much as possible to maintain internal coherency, which lies in the 1750-1850 irl equivalent region at the very highest, so actual robots with batteries and motors would probably clash a bit. But I think you could replicate the aesthetics and feel of a blade runner setting by using magic. For example, the nation of /rbc/ uses magic circuits to power artificial bodies that are basically golems that look like humans.
Basically, I think what you're thinking is doable, just discuss it with us and we'll find a way to make it work. I'd just ask that you try to make it work with the existing /wAIfu/ lore, cuz I think it's neat.

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/who/

My brain is extra mushy after the Poke stream but anyway I finally started working on the conlang and made some words:
https://rentry.org/to2wy
Here's also the election lore with a bunch of new conlang words:

The Owl Republic divides its sovereign soil into 9 provinces, or *Vedyrp*. Each *Vedyrp* is subdivided into a different number of *To’ryrp*, or counties under its administration. Metropolitan cities and regional capitals form their own *To’ryrp*. *To’ryrps* are further divided into *Omes*, or townships. The national capital also constitutes as its own *To’ryrp*, with its own parliament. However all state-level government buildings and land fall into the direct jurisdiction of the state.

Much more relaxed than in previous eras in history, the *Vedyrps* enjoy comparatively more freedom than before. They are led by an indirectly elected governor, decided by the votes or party composition of the province's Parliament. While the *To’ryrps* are ruled by committee, without central leadership.

The Republic is one of the very few countries that have implemented a system of Universal Suffrage. Elections are organized by the Bureau of Elections under the Department of State affairs. Citizens aged 18 or above, no matter their sex and occupation can register as a voter in their respective local Voting Offices operated by provincial branches of the Bureau. The Bureaus in different Voting To’ryrps organise elections, maintains the electoral roll, and count the votes. Though starting from the 12th century, a system of independent commissions, the Provincial Anti-graft Commission is also established in different local administrations to oversee the conduct and running of elections.

All positions in the Provincial *Suprr* (Parliament), State *Zvacha* (Council), and the Presidential seat are elected by the citizen-electorate. All votes utilize a single-member plurality voting method to determine the results of an election.

Presidential elections are held every 6 years, *Zvacha* every 3 years, for half of its seats, and the *Suprr* every 4 years for all of its seats. While the seats for the *Suprr* vary depending on the number of counties and population in each province, every *Vedyrp* is entitled to equal representation in the *Zvacha*, of 20 seats for a total of 180 council members

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I know some of them probably sounds kinda weird. Maybe I'll try to reverse-engineer some natlang words instead. However I'm still stumped at how to make names for places.

>>38758328
Ill check this out later today

>>38758328
Uwah, you even are making your own languages? Sasuga... i don't think i can do that at all!

https://rentry.org/7ua36
update my ideas on phase, i need feedback on this since having other voice think of things is always good. it is complex but complexity is good ))))))

>>38759548
Scroll up. I just shared a link that has some word building (or whole language building) sites. And this conlang was mostly made by an anon who sadly is no longer in the project. Frankly I didn't know anything about linguistics before, not even knowing what is inflection. If you are interested, to start, watch a couple of linguistics basics on youtube or read an introductory book (literally, Oxford's very short introductions can do).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDop3FDoUzk&list=PL8dPuuaLjXtP5mp25nStsuDzk2blncJDW
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6xPxnYMQpqsooCDYtQQSiD2O3YO0b2nN
I'd say you don't have to work out any historical changes if you don't see yourself getting deeper into it. Just having some unique terminology for your nation already adds a lot.

>>38759765
I don't think i can really understand such stuff, but coming up with some unique terms sounds fun! Join the Hagdom or face the Ikarth of a hag scorned!
Also who are you? Are you interested in hag mercenaries?

>>38759987
One of the anons writing for /who/. Yoroshiku.
Sadly no. Country's already got too many soldiers and retired ones.
Also about that foreign legion thing... rep have you developed it any further since?

>>38759751
I really love the culture and religious things a lot and the thought put into them from both the real world and from the perspective of a thread. This is extremely unique in my opinion and i cannot praise you enough thinking as deeply as you have, particularly with religion.

The government is also extremely well done in ideas. The dynamics are well thought of and represent complexity that is good world building. When you develop them more, they will be amazing!!!! I am the 2434 rep so when it comes to the cio, i will honestly tell you it is up to you and sol about what you want to do. I can give you my thoughts on how they operate, which I think you understand but I personally am not totally sure about how this works. Their mission is something i havent thought of besides making money. Do they want to turn pcg into a practical colony or just dominate the economy? Let me think on that. There is much work to be done by me on the cio itself so bear with me!!!

Overall, you are bring in unique, well thought out and interesting ideas that I love to see, as this project is about what each person can bring to make it better and you certainly do and you are extremely knowledgeable about many things!!!! I am so happy that you and hagbro have joined us as it is a breathe of fresh air to me at least to see people enthusiastic about the project in ways that remind me of myself when i started!!! <3 <3 <3 newfag love <3 <3 <3

>>38759548
Currently we have two kinds of conlangs
1. Fully fictional conlangs. Like /nasfaqg/ and /who/
2. Heavily modified real language. Like /meat/ (norse + nahuatl) and niji threads like /lazulight/ (modified german)

>>38760338
Hmm i see, but i actually have given thought what one anon said yesterday about concepts, and if i want to include more about the mature and experienced nature of hags then i think i should not just have mercenaries travel the world but also have something like study travels for young hags to travel the world and gain knowledge and experiences (and husbands) in foreign lands to bring back home. Is there any field of study where you might be interested to gain some hags in?
>>38759751
>>38760495
Woah this sounds huge! Hopefully i can also one day contribute something bigger like this!!!
Also hello 2434 rep, are you interested in hags for your nation?

>>38759751
>hellenized slavic, like Bulgarian
Sasuga!

>>38760495
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 TY TY TY !!! You are very nice and sweet to say this and the input which i always appreciate and show great love towards !!! It is very much work in progress but I am proud in what i am doing. i do want you to have say in cio since i do not view things as simple as "it is up to me because i write for pcg". No !!! you must also have say because this is a collaborative project and you are very smart yourself from what i have read and seen in both lore and stories (i love your stories so much !!!). What you tell me and my friend sol will be taken to account over this as i respect you greatly as all other writers. tearing up a little as when i start, i thought my ideas were not very good and very boring to many. knowing you, sol, and pp loved them means so much <3

>>38760796
TY !!! it takes much thinking but you will no doubt !!! You are doing great too and i know you can !!!
>>38760839
TY !!! I want to make things unique and try to show how culture works in a sensible way. <3

I think new /pcg/ guy would be interested that we have other slavic inspired lore like in /yeah/ and /haha/

>>38760796
Unfortunately, our nation's population is massive and very family/communal centric. We value widows and our hags already greatly (see my 21st of August story), and thus I am not sure if business makes sense between us since we already sort of have what you would offer. But that doesn't mean we cannot be friends or trade in other goods. We have a lot of products free that you may want for your hags, of both luxury and practical purposes, and plenty of food, industrial goods, etc. You don't need to look through the list, but some things that might interest you are our fancy scented soaps, silk garments, jewelry, our legendary porcelain, lingerie, tea, organic products for beauty, fertility etc, natural makeup goods, and of course, food!

We also have many oneesens should your people ever be interested in visiting. They are free and represent a spiritual cleansing.

>>38760914
Awwwwww... you're too cute and sweet <3. Now I am still unsure on what exactly the CIO should do in your lands, which is why i left it to both of you kek but thank you for caring about my opinion!!! I will try to get what you desire from me soon enough.

>>38761149
oh yes, I have very much read them, but /haha/ seems not so slavic and more norse to me !!! But all well done and praiseworthy !!!
>>38761332
<3 T>>38760796
Y !!! Take the time you need !!!

>>38740788
Risuner, i have read some of your lore and saw you have a great man that is yet to be married!
/hag/ warriors shall challenge him: https://rentry.org/iqsrn
You can decide if you defeat them all or if you want one of them to win the right to be his wife!!!

/hag/bro, if you need some help there's a list of basic idea generations to get going.
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts
Start small with your domestic/traditional lore. Like converting thread memes and ritualposts into actual cultural heritage.
Once you get into the rhythm you'll find it easier to write more original stories

>>38761332
Oh? Trade also sounds good, our hags make a lot of handcraft stuff, mostly for the family but i am sure they also create plenty of excess on top that we could trade like knitted clothes! So we are happy to trade stuff with you! But if some of your merchants happen to decide to stay behind in port when your ships leave, we take no responsibility for that!!! I added it like that to the list: https://rentry.org/nazxa

>>38761888
>if you think we are compromised, then you have made a grave error
Just a joke!!!

>>38761332
Also onsen sounds great, hags love mixed bathing! And maybe they find a reason there to settle down with after all!!! I think we will be good friends if your nation also likes hags! After all we also love Nijisanji hags!
>>38761801
TY for the info!

>>38761986
Muhahahaha, fear the housewife network!!!

i see hagbros want to challenge da emperor?

>>38762493
YES! A great man of history would be sought after by many women, so of course hags will want to court him!

>>38762697
I actually really like this idea in general. I approve. Why does this make me think of pokemon gym leaders?

>>38762817
Great!!! I added some extra to the story and hope it is fine to make it canon!!!

>>38763670
I approve.

>>38717880
hag lore: https://rentry.org/iqsrn

Ok. So tomorrow is my day off and I want to do a thing. Risu interior lore. Ill start with the parts that I actually want to do of course. Here is what I have in mind
Moonaboi already got us covered in one regard with this
https://rentry.org/Moon-Intro
So use that and say that Risu comes around and makes her big ass tree temple (its a squirrel so of course she gonna live in a tree)
Now pic related is the first Risu thread. 463 thread number. So I will say we have that many original risuners at that point and that they would plant nuts to make more trees for more food and fuck constantly to make more people. Because thats just what they would do naturally of course.

Oh shit forgot. To hagbros. Commodus is more known to WARsuner then myself and he does have multiple wives. I know the lore is a bit all over the place but thats what im fixing so ask WAR any questions.

>>38719925
Palkyria, i ahve also written something about our joint research if you like it! https://rentry.org/3hads

>>38765038
WHAT??? Oh no, i guess this means this does not work then... hags respect marriage of others and would not want to break the sanctity of it, i thought he is still not married and still in the fooling around stage...

Also mister Writhaven, i have written about you visiting the forbidden library! https://rentry.org/9znqf

>>38765770
Nothing would stop them becoming yet another one of his wives morally from him, albeit they wouldn't be the primary spouse.

>>38766154
Hmm, i don't think i can support this then. Loving marriage is very important to hags and while a hag might be able to understand the need for a great man to go out and hone is horn a bit as long as his heart is at home and he puts the spouse at home first. Having to share marriage with plenty of other wives and not even being a primary spouse themselves would be agony and not something for a hag... it would be tragedy for a hag!

>>38766585
Polygamy and hag loving isnt mutually exclusive tho
A harem of hags

>>38766585
I assumed as much, and it sort of pained me to tell you this.

>>38743826
hehe...

>>38766651
NO, monogamy only for /hag/!
>>38766731
Can Chika challenge all other wives to a duel to the death and poison those that refuse it until she is the only wife left? Because i can see a hag do this to a polygamy marriage in order to gain the upper hand and the husband for herself!

>>38766731
The kind of tale where woman would fight for the husband behind his back! Some wives will die of a mysterious illness, others vanish while traveling. Until only his one true love is left! This woman warfare would be common in /hag/ to eliminate competition for a spouse!

>>38760796
The thread itself is decently receptive toward hags, even if they are certainly not a major topic. So in universe, while they might not be immensely desirable, hags should still be welcomed by the academia as visiting scholars. Biology and the arts should be the two things the Republic is most famous for. Won't be significant but hags are welcomed as long as they stay out of trouble.

>/hag/ doesnt support polygamy
Shame. guess we cant be friends

>>38767328
good, polygamy is cringe

>>38767261
Great, we shall send plenty of hags for that then! They behave well of course, after all they want to make a good impression on potential husbands and not act like a roasty!!! Welcome to the list: https://rentry.org/nazxa

>>38767328
No, sorry. For us this is not just about sex but about love!!! Very important! Now i am not saying there cannot be situations of hags being in a polygamy, but it's important that it's filled with love, not lust!

>>38758328
Alright I can check this now.
Pretty neat, if you're making up words I'll also ask you to try and recreate them using the alphabet that's there.
I do realize it's probably a test, but do use normal words when writing so that anyone who checks the page doesn't have to switch back and forth.
I assume you used the conglang generator, dunno what to opiniate about the actual words, most of them don't sound like something I'd use, but I do like the word "Zvacha", that one is pretty good.

>>38760338
Nope. Kind of ended up developing into the Rangers, but I'll get to work on it today and see how far I get.

>>38768219
I made them with one of the word building tools I shared above. All are created using consonants and vowels listed in the doc conlang left us.
Regarding the usage of conlang words would an example like this be good?

"The Post-Calamity *Finats* (City-states, though more accurately petty states) can be categorised into three types. The Oligarchy, Archaic Republic, and Princely Republic.

Though one must first contend with the developments after the Great Collapse of the Old Empire. The protectorate had been destroyed by the combined chaos caused by the wold-splitting Calamity and the rebellion of the elites, who had grown to be dissatisfied with the defacto hereditary dynasty ruling from Noctea. The alderman from the various *Finats*, in the aftermath of the rebellion had agreed to a return to the Golden Rule between the different independent polities of the land, which the Protectorate had broken with their meddling in local affairs. The *Finats* all agreed to not interfere unless asked to in other's political affairs, to unite and defend against outside invaders and to never let a tyrant, indigenous or otherwise, to take root again. This brotherhood reinforces the trust not only between the different finats but within them as well. And thus the petty-states had returned to a similar system before the subjugation of the different clans by the Old Hololive Empire."

As long as there are some phrases like "also known as xxx" or "commonly called yyy outside of the Republic" is added I don't think it will affect readability that much.

About that last one I really just switched some vowels and consonants from the word "veche" which is a natlang word. For the word generator I kinda did just enter some of the rules rather arbitrarily. i just picked ones that sound nice. Some of the words are technically completely (re)constructed by hand like /muːm/ and /Xʲɣuːmam/ since, well it's kinda a requirement I think.

>>38768544
I guess that's fine, while I prefer things to be in plain english, as long as it can be easily understood there will be no problem

>>38767328
Polygamy fags btfo'd again.

>>38766866
>>38767204
As romantic as it may seem, Joyo Cahya has a childhood girl whom is his true love, and primary life. No one can seperate her from him despite his polygamous ways.

>>38717880
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-4
I teared up as I wrote this chapter, it's so beautiful and I am a baby!!!

>>38769910
Then i won't interfere, that wouldn't be the hag way at all!!! Sorry about all that, i didn't know any of this... I hope you still are fine with hag mercenaries.

>>38770277
If us Risuners are honest, we don't need more women to breed with, and I think that our "exploits" would make this clear to you guys. It would just be a heartbreak for the poor hags since Risuners would mostly be just looking to fuck them, despite being loyal in marriage like we are, that's how we would see them and I also think we really don't actually need mercs since we are just trying to get ourselves set up.

>>38770744
Ohh... ok, i will keep away then if you rather.

>>38770970
Yeah, this isnt anything against you at all but more that i just want it to work for both parties and i dont think it makes sense on your end sadly.

Big booba, wide hips, slightly chubby and strong farm wife.

yea I might have lied about organizing my speculations, dwarf fortress is too fun.

I question the value of stories in this thread since they really have no value to worldbuilding given that they dont actually build the world as canonic lore. They are good and all, but seem pointless to me since they dont warrant discussion, cannot be used to build lore because of their canonical questionablity, and are by their very nature not productive given that the effort can be used for canon lore instead. What is the point, for example, of this Louis d’Avranches story in regards to the project? You could replace words and locations at it would be fine irl as fiction? Its a fine story but still. Feels like a waste of effort.

>>38773557
>What is the point of stories?
None really, they are mostly just for the writers to express themselves. The reason why they don't warrant discussion is there isn't much to discuss at all. However, I am against this wasted effort point since not everyone can be productive within lore discussions in the way you think.

>>38773557
Since when are stories not canon? According to whom?

>>38773722
Anon, they are better being in /wg/ than in this thread because at least in /wg/ they can be at home with other stories worth telling. Truly, I fail to see the point in them at all and I disagree about the last part since we all can participate. It doesn't matter if you aren't that good or knowledgable, you can still be part of discussions.
>>38773802
It's not that they aren't canon, but that they cannot be used as canon or that they really build the world meaningfully. A story only can build on existing lore, not make new lore.

>>38773959
>Cannot make new lore
Anon, I need to get a refresh course on how a story doesn't add even the smallest details to the world around it.

>>38771580
No it's fine, i pushed myself on you, gomen. I think i need to rethink what i do, so i do not keep disturbing things!

>>38774101
If I can give some help here, I would generally just try to be a little patient when it comes to things and (I get this, as it describes me personally sometimes) understand that rushing to make a deal or get something out isn't necessary. Like it's also not your fault since I wasn't around earlier when you talked to OG, but trust me when I say that we all have been here to some degree in the past and you really haven't done anything wrong at all. It's just growing pains and I love what you do as a writer and the energy you bring.

Actually, disturbing things isn't a problem, and I disturb things all the time too kek ;)

>>38774057
Anon, that's not what I said. I said they cannot MAKE new lore, not that they cannot add onto it.

>>38770178
I wish i could write this as good as you! Amazing story Alice I love it !

>>38773557
Stories increase the depth of the universe, and make it more immersive. They make the setting more "alive" , so to speak.
The effort that goes in to writing certainly is not worth the increase in depth and immersion factors alone, but most writers also really enjoy writing stories, and enjoy having them be read by others, which justify the workload.

>>38773802
Stories are in most cases inherently told from in-universe perspective and thus are fundamentally tainted by in-universe biases and thus cannot reasonably be assumed to be 100% objective canon. If a character X says that the inhabitants of nation Y are barely even human savages, while the inhabitants of nation Z are the most civilized, beautiful, and intelligent people on Vitubia, then those statements cannot reasonably be interpreted as being canonical except as the subjective opinions of that single character.
At a risk of sounding self-aggrandizing i would point out that I made this into a point in my entry to the Louis saga where Louis and another character describe the same city in opposite ways. Its the same city but whether it should be considered an "ugly, soulless place" or "a warm beating heart of prosperity and triumph" depends entirely on one's perspective.

>>38773959
A story can definitely add new lore, but how it does that is very story-dependent and nuanced. Compare stuff like Melisende and the risuner expeditions,and how they affected the wider setting.

>>38774468
define "making new lore"

>>38774529
But did those stories really? It was more that the writers for those threads contributed to the story rather than the story itself adding anything. Fair point about perspective.

>>38774528
Thank you Moonafic <3
>>38774529
To add on, you cannot capture the human emotions of a story in a regular lore post. The best way of showing how the world works imo is stories. If lore docs are raw diamonds, stories are what turn them into beautiful pieces of material that we can marvel at. That's what stories do and what their purpose is. It's not about the feedback, all I like is words saying great work I love it and I am happy. The effort is well spent and worth it, and I would take my stories over writing lore docs any day!

New PC who dis? I miss anything spicy in the last 2 weeks I think? Might be 3?

>>38717880
https://rentry.org/TheMeeting

Under /nasa/ please and thank you. Also https://rentry.org/LastLog and https://rentry.org/vtwbg-nasaepilogue should be removed, as this entry will replace them.

>>38770178
im crying like little girl, its so pretty and romantic. great work !!! much love and care, amazing what you do !!!

>>38774617
I personally believe that the depth and immersion added by stories alone is worth the effort. Which is also why I personally value high immersion stories a lot.
Setting up borders, writing histories, making languages and economies and international relationships is fine and all and arguably more important for the "worldbuilding" aspect of the project but those are also ultimately very shallow things. You can read about a city or a conflict in some objective lore doc, but you cannot really experience them outside of a written story with a POV.

>>38774789
precisely my point.

>>38774882
<3 Storychad love.
>>38774858
awww I was too... thank you for the sweet words anon!!!

>>38774789
>>38774882
How is specbio and chuubanite shallow? It all just seems like you all are wasting your efforts on them because you don't get any discussions on them and they ultimately fail to capture what this thread is about. Worldbuilding.

>>38774796
Looks neat, like a surreal western.

>>38774997
very welcome !!! I can see your heart in this and it is very beautiful. feelign the emotions of this is wonderful and i wish this anon who does not understand would get why stories are awesome !!!

>>38774796
Captured the emotions and surreality of it all rather well. Great work!
>>38775150
youre too sweet <3

>>38770178
I don't really get it, probably miss context, but it seems to be a nice romance and that is nice! Also so well written... I wanna do something like that one day!
>>38774338
I just write as i feel in the moment! But i just don't understand a lot but i want to keep doing stuff and spread hag love!
>>38774617
How do you like my story for /wg/??? It does expand on the lore for the forbidden library of lost knowledge that was only mentioned in name before!!! https://rentry.org/9znqf

>>38774796
I admire how you and alice capture scenes and dialogue rather well love, good work and welcome back.

>>38775249
Ty so much!!! If you want to know context, unfortunately you have to start back at the beginning which would be 123 pages behind (yes i counted today!) You can! I learned how to from others here and if you want to know how to do it.
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-2
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-3
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-4

It has been a long road!

Also, based, I write in the moment too!

>>38775249
>write in the moment.
Yep, I can tell as someone who does this too kek. Ah, it's all good and trust me, kicking up some dust does wonders for us sometimes and in your case it does. Write with love.

>>38773557
>>38773959
In terms of stories relative to worldbuilding, greentexts and stories have always been welcomed as examples of how in universe cultures interact and act amongst each other, so stories in and of themselves aren't really an issue even if they're not canonical.
The biggest issue with them is really that they rely heavily on the individual writing them to enjoy when they arent

>>38775057
they are shallow in the sense that they are purely mechanical most of the time. Its like you have a book with empty pages and a pen. They are purely mechanical aspects of the world.
Or maybe you could think of them as unseasoned chicken. Its a functional meal but kind of lacking without the addition of the ultimately nutritionally meaningless spices. Saying this as a major chuubanite contributor.
Now, spices alone would be even worse, which is why stories have to bend to the rules of the world and not the other way around.
The point of the thread may be to bake a cake but it doesn't hurt to add the cherry on top and decorate it a bit, right?

>>38775388
>you have to start back at the beginning which would be 123 pages behind
...is there anything in this project that does not require extensive reading as a base to even start...

>>38775514
-connected to pre existing lore. If one writing style doesn't jive with you in a lore post the discussion of it can continue and elaborate on, it doesn't rely on writing skill or technique to a great degree. A story is incredibly subjective on the other hand and even if you lower your expectations, you might still not enjoy it.
All in all you can always just ignore a story you don't like but that also ends any possible discussion, essentially if you don't like a story, figure out why and post about it.

>>38775612
My writings because i am a lazy bastard who cant get words written down. Depends on how you define "extensive reading" though.

>>38775612
Of course not! I have wrote several short stories that are filled with humour or serious.
https://rentry.org/TachibanaGo
While Louis is my magnum opis, you don't need to read it all. TachibanaGo is just 6 chapters and partially shitposting.

>>38775612
Read /who/'s lore
More importantly thought, I'll have to hold back on whatever potential interactions there may be between /hag/ and /who/ until /hag has developed enough lore for it.
By this I mean "Official" relations, althought, /hag/ sending people to study in our country is certainly possible, and I wish to keep that as a possibility, with nothing to work off it ends up being quite vague.
I'd prefer it if you developed /hag/'s lore on how education is supposed to happen, like schools and other stuffs.

>>38775665
Lunaito, I am not sure many stories function for thread discussion in general and that really isn't a problem. What can you really discuss from the example he gave other than praising/booing writing, characters, etc. ? As was stated above, they serve their purpose but the point of the thread isn't discussion in my opinion at all.

Rather, if we want to discuss things and diversify discussion, what we need to do is not to limit it merely to what a few anons at the moment (nothing wrong with that!) want to discuss but expand it to thinking about "How would theses aspects of a nation work in a story with another?" or even some things regarding how cultures develop based on factors, how events can be interpreted, etc. Heck, even just asking anons that are normally not asked questions about their lore such as myself instead of say, OG, can go a long way to generating more discussions.

>>38776028
>Read /who/'s lore
>>Hag anon has died of mental exhaustion.

>>38775686
I feel like you are just tricking me and gonna throw a link at me with a wall of text too!!! I tried reading stuff i got yesterday and the archive stuff and it's just mountains of words!

>>38776122
Trust me that Tachibana Go is just a short story. It's 10 pages and a quick fun read. Some of my chapters are now longer than it!!!

>>38776028
Ahh gomen! I will try and think about it and also read stuff from you before i interact again!!! AHHHH i keep messing up...

>>38775714
>>38776193
Ahh gomen, did not mean to ignore you, i am a bit overwhelmed!!! I will check it out!!!

>>38776122
I've got only 3 proper stories. Each of them include the links to the other chapters at the top.
>Red Bird
https://rentry.org/2bdo7w
>Sabatangan arc
https://rentry.org/A_Visit_to_Sabatangan

Then there is Colderonie which is completed but it is actually long.
https://rentry.org/Colderonie

>>38776270
Dont worry about it and dont take pressure from it. The project is supposed to be for fun and stressing out about it is not fun.

>>38776379
No its fine!!! You have a similar spirit to me when it comes to this, and that is good!!! just have fun!!!

>>38776096
It's not that much, probably...
>>38776270
Just don't feel too much pressure, everyone's got their own speed.

>>38776048
The point of the thread isn't discussion per say but discussion is where the thread thrives and how different writers interact, I'd say the majority of lore outside of the initial lorepost and sometimes even from the initial lorepost is formed from a discussion about what concepts nation might represent.
>Rather, if we want to discuss things and diversify discussion, what we need to do is not to limit it merely to what a few anons at the moment (nothing wrong with that!) want to discuss but expand it to thinking about 'How would theses aspects of a nation work in a story with another?" or even some things regarding how cultures develop based on factors, how events can be interpreted, etc. Heck, even just asking anons that are normally not asked questions about their lore such as myself instead of say, OG, can go a long way to generating more discussions.
I feel like we already do alot of this though, especially the expanding discussion part with alot of things.

>>38776761
>I feel like we already do alot of this though, especially the expanding discussion part with alot of things.
Then I must fail to see it because truthfully, I fail to ever see others besides the usual things discussed. It's specbio, Risuner lore, chuubanite or Food. I hardly see some nations ever get talked about at all and if we want the thread to thrive, we have to be willing to not settle for the status quo discussions. Like, I cannot remember the last time I was ever asked a question about my nation in any regard, and even pcg which has plenty to discuss with their new writer fails to come up. We can do better than this, and let's make the thread thrive as you and I both want.

>>38776761
>>38776967
You know candyman, there is a point here. Most discussions are those things, and recently it has changed but it is still good to remember that this is true.

An example is I never really get asked at all about many aspects of my nation. Like the only thing that seems to matter is I have Risuner slaves and not the whole cultural stuff I have wrote about.

>>38765699
Thank you, I’ll add it to my lore rentry! Speaking of which, is there anything you want to buy from /vnug/? Also, what kind of food do you want to sell? And does /hag/ export things other than hag?

>>38777111
I need to say that I have nothing against those discussions, but I am just being honest!!! I do not have much to say about them anyways personally!!!

>>38777363
Oh no! I never thought that, and agree 100%. It would imagine it gets tiresome to OG to be asked constantly about something over and over and that he would rather have it not be about him all the time. I know I wouldn't like it personally but yes...

>>38777363
>>38777447
>>38776967
Simple, write lore that is worth discussing. Risuner lore is worth discussing because there is much to discuss about it. I barely know what can be discussed from either of you.

>>38777528
What are you talking about? I have a whole interesting movement that is based on Romanticism, wrote about sex in society, wrote about folk vs. fancy culture, etc.? Is that not interesting, serious question.

>>38777447
>It would imagine it gets tiresome to OG
Mate, the dude has been doing nothing but screaming "ask me questions!" for a while now from what I recall

>>38777663
Well, I forgot about that but I personally wouldn't want to be in his position all the time where his nation in the center of all of our attention all the time its seems.

>>38777622
I must take some blame since I hardly join in on discussions because i feel i am not welcome...

>>38777803
I don’t know about others but I welcome you!

>>38777803
You have a lot of haters but don't get discouraged! You are great!

>>38776967
Speculative Biology and Chuubanite are the most common ways most nations that dont have much to do with one another get introduced to each other, like how the Salamansho Rex MonHun got Vnug, the Candy Kingdom, and Moriji to interact for a single political goal and acts a waypoint for future political endeavors. There's also the whole synthesis aspect of chuubanitewhich gets collaborations from different nations to see what might happen from similar concepts like with /meat/ and the flesh jukebox, if those don't interest you that's fine but in the same vein they open up to potential discussions outside those topics.
>>38777111
I generally don't expect an interest to occur for someone that doesn't really have a reason to pay attention to someone elses culture unless the idea is very public and gets eyes on them. I think the solution to that might just be to post a bit about the idea before you put it into a rentry for it to get more exposure to anyone interested in it or might like it beforehand which used to be commonplace.

>>38777858
>>38777862
thanks!!! It's just I guess a result of all the stupid drama... I will try more.

>>38774796
Hey Cunt, good to see you. How've you been?
Also, separate the paragraphs properly you bastard.

>>38777966
Eh, 3k lighten cuz of PC, but otherwise good. Also, no.

>>38777905
Like i said before, there really isn't a problem with what is discussed at all but rather that we lack variety. I also disagree about the whole candy kingdom, morig and vnug point since I know that morig has already been well established with you guys and you all interact a lot. The main point I think is we need to not focus ourselves on a few nations and writers when it comes to discussions as it is harmful overall when we sphere ourselves like that. The same can be said about me and hoshi for example. We all need to step outside the little groups a bit more and just have conversations.

>>38777905
Well candyman, some of us have different ways of writing. I sort of get the idea and put it in without much thought because I am a bit hyperactive and all, while others like yourself are more suited towards that. Your point is right, but even when it comes to the things you are interested in like Chuubanite, it is rare to see it talked with other nations as alice sort of says.

>>38778036
https://pastebin.com/cEfxDU6g
please

>>38777260
Glad you liked it. I admit that i didn't understand much from your lore either when i read it, but from what i understood you handle essential oils that would be great for perfumes, cleaning utensils and more. Is that ok? Also your magic seems cool and i wanted to ask if we could learn it too since being able to sing soft songs or lullabies to heal the minds of people would be great to have for hags.
I didn't really plan to sell it and just share it, things like potatoes, carrots, rice, bell peppers, smoked meat and spices to make homemade stews.
We make tons of handcrafted things like knitted clothes, soap, stuff to pretty up the house and flowers.

>>38778213
Which is another thing acctually about Og is that he doesn't zone himself which is why Risu gets talked about all the time.

>>38778409
well... i hope i don't do it cuz i really don't at all... I try to engage everyone but it is hard to keep track.

>>38778409
What do you mean with he doesn't zone himself?

>>38778477
no, I don't think you do and I try not to either... but fail.
>>38778502
Look at how OG presents himself, he tries to talk to everyone. That's what I mean.

>>38778252
https://pastebin.com/5athPQdS
no

>>38778275
It’s fine, I understand my stuff isn’t that easy or fun to read
The magic essential oil’s kinda a meme-y way for me to describe the organic chuubanite extract /vnug/ gets from its plants like dreamwort since that’s what essential oil is (but with magic)! It’s also a major component of /vnug/’s magic since it’s the stuff where the magical effect comes from when they’re exposed to magic songs. We’re happy to teach you how those songs work but I imagine you’ll need to import the extracts (I don’t know if you can get the same extract by growing your own dreamwort since we have different kinds of chuubanite… I think?) for the songs to work. If it helps dreamwork itself is good at putting people to sleep and improving sleep and dream quality!
Sharing is caring after all! I’m just wondering if we have stuff that we can share with each other! Things like potato, rice, bell peppers, and spices will do well since /vnug/ likes to import food, and having additional sources of spice can help make our spicy dish more edible to non-palkyries. We can also exchange handicrafts!

>>38778095
Yea I agree.
That's kind of the point in writing things for other nations like the fetish general stuff where everyone can make their own variation and elaborate on specific aspects that can connect with more nations.
>>38778213
Chuubanite does get talked about alot in regards to foreign nations but alot of it is just speculative but I'm curious as to what you think /moons/ chuubanite does or could do, or even if /moons/ knows about chuubanite.

>>38778732
I honestly do not know what makes sense with chuubanite and us! Like, I know how it works but how I have no concepts...

>>38778732
Which I agree with and think was a great idea with fetish nations!!!

>>38765943
Oh wow, I really love this a lot! Great work, and I see that these hags certainly know their craft. This really helps me visualize the vibe you're going for with the nation. Maybe I'll even add on a sequel part of my own if I find the time. Don't forget to anchor this though so it gets added to the archive. Also, >>38764291 is showing up as blank to me. Did you post the right link?

>>38779105
So the answer is for everyone to write Speculative Biology Fetish Stories...
>>38778953
I'd look towards Moon Cycle if nothing from Moona's own personality and fanbase come to mind. The moon has alot of occult connections throughout a vast amount of cultures and there's definitely something out there that could make for a fun cultural basis, just ask a meathead to search for it.

>>38778667
No that is not what i meant! But everyone had so much written down that i started to just skim it so i can jump in and interact with everyone, since yesterday was so much fun. But that seems to have been bad and now i did a lot of trouble to people... I don't mind getting the oils from you since it seems to be for a good cause! I don't actually know about like big trade how everyone does, i just thought was /hag/ would make and handicraft seemed logical to me, but i guess that is not really what trade is about.

>>38779485
Hmmm, maybe in IRL but there are several nations that are rather lunar centric in this world. I also do not think our thread is occult at all but that we are just autistic like moona.

>>38779580
Interacting with others is all fine and dandy, but you really need to get your own nation set up first and foremost, so that others even know what they are getting themselves in with your deals, as others have said.

This link should help you flesh out /hag/, even if you don't answer all of them, and you only give a few lines for those that you do.
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

>>38779286
Thanks! I wanted to ask for your permission before i archive it! Feel free to write what you want! I deleted the other link because what i wrote was bad for the risuners.
>>38717880
/hag/ lore: https://rentry.org/9znqf
>>38778732
>>38779105
Should i stop writing for /hag/ then, so you guys can write for it? You guys can probably write better things for /hag/ anyway.

>>38779806
PERISH THE THOUGHT!!! NO NO NO NO!!! That's not what I meant at all!!! I cannot write for /hag/ since I actually don't frequent any fetish threads. I was merely saying that for some of them it is a good idea since they lacked lore!!!

>>38779806
We can have multiple people writing for one thread, in fact I think that enriches the lore by a lot! You're definitely adding a lot to /hag/ lore, so I'd like it if you kept writing.

>Yellow woman pushing another writer off the project
can't make this shit up kek

>>38779580
That works! I’ll add it to my table. As for trade I guess it’s ultimately just a nice way to connect people together since it’s not like we have to actually balance spreadsheets or anything

>>38779806
Nah that doesn't make sense, if anything that should make you feel like you can write for anyone you want. You're not limited to hag but don't think that means you should stop writing for it when you make interesting things.

>>38778654
>mfw reading your walls of text

>>38780414
Good.

>>38779911
>>38779930
Ok!
>>38779966
Thanks, i am happy it means our people are working together!

>>38774796
Welcome back! I'm not quite sure what to make of this new entry but it was interesting to read. Although your grammar mistake with "it's" was driving me crazy the whole time. "it's" is the contraction of "it is", while "its" is the possessive form of "it". Pretty much all of yours need to be "its" in this.
>>38780414
>>38780560
We can go further. https://pastebin.com/i2TEijpd

>>38780634
>it got removed
Well, never mind then. I guess that was as far as we could go.

>>38780743
kek

>>38780634
>it's
Brb, gotta change all the correct ones to be wrong as well, thanks for catching that!

>>38780873
anon, no... pls no bulli

New chapter for Monhun nanora:
rentry.org/a9oio
Extra context/lore, nanora:
rentry.org/rmpq4

>>38781136
You forget who you are dealing with, kiddo

>>38781144
Sir Sprink... o7
Your pain will not be in vain! At least thanks to Morta he didn't get bit into two pieces.
The Prince Rupert Drop equivalent is a wonderful reference, I got a kick out of that. Those can be pretty explosive when the fragile end gets broken, right? Is it the same for Prince Roberu's Drops?
Nice to see Shishov and Usam chatting, they've got a nice vibe. Shishov is so caring for his boys... Also, carrot cake is now canon. Good.
I'm thinking the next chapter will be set in one of the ferries carrying the expedition through the lake, what do you think?

I AM HOME FUCKERS

>>38776387
You are the capitalist right? Can i ask you some questions?

>>38783624
yea?

>>38783826
You wanted to establish marriage interviews with hags that cannot fight to bring them to your nation right? What exactly are you planning to do with them?

>>38783955
...Have them marry local men, assuming the two would be fond of each other? what else?

>>38784043
So you are not planning to sell them to cannibal tribes or sell them to whorehouses for extra profit?

>>38784108
Admirable distrusts of capitalists, love to see it!

>>38781860
That's good. And yeah, nanora, Prince Roberu drops work the same, discovered by the wine glass makers in the land of winning sun.

>>38784108
Being dishonest would be very bad for business would it not? Selling your customers to cannibals or into whorehouses would also be very bad, yes?

The hags get what reads in the agreement, and that is a matchmaking service, postal service, and the possibility to travel and carry cargo on the ships. And husbands, but those can only be provided in the cases where the hag and the tentative husband have become fond of each other. Cant force a husband and a hag who dont like each other into marriage, right?
Naturally, the hags and the husbands are expected to give fair compensation for these services in the ways they see fit, be it money, goods, work, or mercenary services in the case of the hag mercenaries, I would assume.

Also, the nation is founded on ideas of liberty, enslaving people forcibly is against the law.
But, a man also has to have the right to sell themselves into indentured servitude if he so wishes.
That is the nasfaqg way.
And the rich and powerful can acquire human goods through more or less legal ways, as would be the case in the red bird story.

>>38784626
Hmmmmmm

>>38784332
>land of the winning sun
Oooh that's clever.

>>38784626
Very well i shall trust you for now. But i started doing my reading reps with what you guys linked me and your stories makes you sound very shady!!! If you treat the hags poorly then you better be ready to get cursed!

>>38784707
Honesty is important for the nation in-universe, since a lot of things in trade transactions are based on trust, thus a written contract is considered extremely binding and breaking a contract is considered extremely immoral.
It is also important on a meta level because its generally not good to keep secrets from other writers, especially since the project operates on the ideas of mutual consent.
If you find the idea of a hag having to end up as a prostitute in some nasfaqgian city interesting to write or read, it can be done, but if you dont want any of your native hags getting into those situations, then they dont. Simple as.

>>38785099
I just like writing about suffering and the darker aspects of societies.That is all.

>>38785268
...are you okay? I didn't mean to be mean to you!!!!

>>38785420
Eye am. Just sleepy and stressed over finals. I am generally bad at distinguishing RP and bants from actual opinions even at my best, so i play it safe.
I wouldnt worry if i was you.
im happy to hear you have read some of the stories though. I am not as good a writer as most here so I didnt expect you to get that deep into them to be honest.

>>38785632
Daijoubu!!! Finals can be stressful but if you be the best you then that is all you can do and even if the results might not be the best in the world they still matter! Comparing yourself to only the best is never good, look not at what others have but what great chances are given to you! Many people probably value you for the person you are and rather have you happy than stressed because you could not accomplish everything perfect!!! And if stress just keeps building up, you should take some time for yourself and let yourself get pampered a bit!!! I am sure we can do lots of stuff together with our nations once i have done more reps and aren't a nuisance anymore!!! Also your writing was good, again, don't just try to compare yourself to the best writer there is, i am sure others look at yours and wished they could accomplish that, me included!!!

>>38774796
Interesting. Glad /nasa/'s finally getting some proper closure... 4 months later...

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>>38773557
in my opinion, whether or not storytelling belongs in a worldbuilding thread depends on whether or not storytelling leads to conflicting canons. separate canons that are labeled as such give us insights into alternate possibilities. established/official canon creates history which can be an extension of worldbuilding. conflicting canon creates a schism in the canon lore, diminishing the role of worldbuilding, and disrespecting the intention of the thread. worldbuilding and storytelling are two sides to the same coin, but only when they are not antagonistic towards each other. treating all storytelling as biased, even when it isn't intended to be, could justify allowing no storytelling in the thread, but not all storytelling is designed to be biased, and as long as the ones that are separate to official canon are clearly recognizable as such, it is inherently complimentary to worldbuilding, and therefore deserves to exist here.

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Going to play Xenoblade Chronicles 3 for a week or two. I'll lurk if you have any questions or requests.

AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
Writing about very specific things without names for places is really freaking hard.
https://rentry.org/6qf9v
It's just a draft for now.
For Hoshi rep, I tried to incorporate some aspects of Hoshiyomia into the lore. Is that okay for you? This is lore for the period at around 1-590 VTE

Also the other hooman if you are reading this I added Sugar Rush Week to the new, separated Culture rentry is that okay? Or do you want me to remove it before you are done revising?

>>38799115
The use of conlang names in the rentry keeps fucking me over, it requires the reader to try and come to their own conclusions about what exactly would be the best comparison to a modern word using context, which while neat for an in-universe thing, does not work for a meta lore document.
Also, we have to avoid weird shit like "Tsbjujzars", "Hyrhjars"(how the fuck am I supposed to pronounce this?)
Small typo in the third paragraph, "Finatshad" which I assume is meant to be a separated to "Finats had"

Anyways, it's some pretty neat elaboration in the pre-history of the Republic, the cultural influence of Hoshiyomia in the south is neat, it does make me wonder how I could work some of that in on modern history, I'm not sure how much of pre-Republic cultural influence we really want to have, but right now it isn't particulary intrusive, so I don't have much to say about it.
I will ask thought, are the conlang words here suppose to be older words or ones in modern usage?

>>38801433
Tsbjujzar (or Tsbyuyzer I screwed up the romanization) is pronounced Zip-Yu-zer. Capital letter means stressed syllables.
Conlang anon didn't provide any proper romanization for the Diphthongs so I just used [juj]. Would Tsbyuzer be better?
Hyrhjar is pronounced Hill-h-Har. The "r" can probably be removed.
Guess I can also provide the IPA in the lore doc.

The meaning for the words are explained by these lines:
>"Oligarchies are controlled by either the land-owning elites or Tsbjujzars, the urban rich who accumulated wealth through trade."
>"In these Republics, only the Hyrhjar, cityfolks can vote or enjoy the right to office. Vinyajar, the rural farmers technically..."

Gonna clean it up later. And also make it a lil clearer.

>I'm not sure how much of pre-Republic cultural influence we really want to have
It's really to explain what the people were doing before the current Republic and also why there are no monarchies or similar. The current system is a sort of extension of the system of petty states. The political culture around it also influences contemporary culture and philosophy. It's more evolution rather than just influence. All of the conlang words used here are supposed to be archaic.

>>38802598
I see I see, in that case, we may as well romanize it as Tsibyuzar and Hylhar, I'll guess that the reasons the romanizations are kinda bullshit is due to the original language the words were based off of, or maybe due to the generator's luck. Simplicity is most pretty important in the end.
Coming up with standard romanizations (or more specifically anglicisations) would be pretty important.
Althought, since the words are supposed to be archaic and ancient, I'm fine with leaving them in an unpronounceable way.

Ringo piss mercenaries that drink psychodelix magic pee ambrosia that makes heightens their senses and blood thirst like in the Northmen.
Call em the Golden Company.

>>38781144
Nice chapter! I hope things work out well for Sir Sprink

Reminder, you are encouraged to label and call /meat/ as illiterate barbaric cannibal tribes
The only ones who know the truth are /inf/, /morig/, and private traders or visitors who kept their lips shut.

>>38807661
speaking of /meat/, can some of you guys help me keep it alive? at least until more people show up?

>>38807875
Last thread died already?

Yeah /trash/ sucks. Small catalog and high rate of new threads.
I post in the thread and look away for 10 minutes and it's already on page 10

>>38808148
it's because jannies send threads over there when they dislike them. that's the main reason threads end up there in the first place. the board doesn't even show up unless you put it in the link, so everything seems deceptively slow, but then some janny goes on a rampage and your comfy thread ends up dead on page 11. we can mitigate this problem if we post new threads constantly, yet the others seem shy about it, naturally. we need to take advantage of the options we have, but few of them are effective with only one person backing it. if we used the /trash/ thread as a base and tried to take over bait threads here on /vt/, for example, we could solve a lot of our problems, but we average about 6 posters at the moment due to the problem i mentioned before. maybe we could ask for some help from you guys when we get a bit more situated, but whatever.

>>38808467
All our posters are scattered all over lmao. We need to herd them like Pikmin

>>38808827
pikmin is a perfect comparison. we can gather more of them if we deal with challenges, yet we need more of them to succeed those challenges, and failure brings the risk of losing what we have, so we have to be smart and resourceful. that's why taking over bait threads seems like the smartest option to me right now. we spread our influence beneath the watch of the jannies while gaining a self-perpetuating signal, taking advantage of it's bait-worthy nature to keep it alive, and bring us to the attention of others. if jannies kill the thread, they'll do their job. if they ban us while keeping the thread itself alive, you saw what happened last time. either way, it seems pretty smart to me. we can use the /trash/ thread to coordinate everything, and the gurochan thread to notify if any of us got banned.

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>Literally no lore for Iluna and Soleil
LOL LMAO good riddance

>>38803298
There is technically a standard way of romanizing since all the consonants and vowels have their corresponding IPA symbols.
And I named the big river running from the East to the West coast River Raika. Is that okay?

Also
>/#/

>>38811934
>corresponding IPA symbols
*English letters

>>38811934
>>38811962
>River Raika
Yeah, that's cool, I like how it sounds.

>>38812002
Don't tell anyone I just slightly corrupted the proto-balto-slavic for river

>>38812069
I thought it was from Japanese but it being slavic makes more sense.

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>>38795191
Can you give an example of this?

>>38814355
what part of it?

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>>38759751
Idea for Lysianassa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paneurhythmy

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you guys around?

>>38824599
No

>>38818383
im confused????

>>38824599
Dwarfin

>>38824599
Exams in 21 hours

>>38717880
https://rentry.org/swaz7
Alright magichads, I have no damn clue how things work and this story is not that good but I thought maybe I was on to something with some parts in here about moona chuubanite or catalougnauts or whatever.

>>38827136 (me)

Basically, i am thinking one of the uses will be for nightvision that our military will use to great advantage and yes, I called on Janny powers because about every thread this samefagger gets banned and that is something about this story I tried to show off without just someone disappearing or whatever.

>>38827233 (me)
I also really think we should as a nation make things overly complicated, given Moona. Thoughts

>>38827136
>>38827233
>>38827324
I will let the magic people handle the magic, i think it is fine aside from whatever this weird moon beam is but that is vague!!!


Umm, the complex thing sounds fun to me, think you could have for example advance weapons that are really hard to produce and have Maintenace on as example. Nightvision in that context like googles sounds kino too.

>>38827454
That sounds fun! I think i will go with that because it is fun to imagine it

>>38827136
gw love, it was short and bizzare, but that works for me. So if I am right moona chuubanite is
>nightvision
and the catalogunaut shit is
>this guys tracking ability
and the janny power is
>Blinding the pirates.

Now, i was wondering why the jannies are involved but you stated why. Let the "balance" and magic nerds figure it put kek.

>>38827628
Thank you! Umm, there was also the whole aspect of falseflagging and samefagging but I didn't want to get into something that is way beyond my underestanding of how to cloak a ship or whatever. That sounds like a headache and I want to avoid that! But I also thought it made sense, you know, falseflaggers and samefaggers hiding behind ips.

>>38827738
Also going off what the other one said, I think the idea of having advanced weapons that are hard to produce and perform Maintenace on fits well with your nation already since as you have said, not industrialized really.

>>38827981
Ty, ummm yea that does work out I guess. I know that tech is a timeloop so i am petrified to even think of it sometimes! But maybe if it is for fun, and not broken, it will be good.... help me.

>>38828141
personally, i wouldn't bother looking at other nations mainly as that's another bloody timeloop for you. idk mate, just take a look at some 19th century shit and think of what works you know? As long as you do not treat this like a game, then I think it is fine.

>>38828254
I HATE timeloops man... Well, this isn't a game at all! I will take the advice tho, ty.

>>38828254
you mean 18th century. 1750 is the average. Anyone going to 1800 or whatever is establishing themselves as well above the average tech level. I believe hoomans and kronies are at this level.

>>38827136
People don't control jannies. They're more a force of nature that you can call upon with the report ritual and maybe something can happen. Also, they would delete offenders from existence, not just blind them. I would just make the blinding thing a catalognaut thing. Seems good besides that.

>>38828459
Well, of course, but if this route of having overcomplicated things that are hard to produce and maintain makes sense, then mid 19th century isn't a problem for that? Unless it is, which is odd considering that it is nerfed.

>>38828665
What reason does Moon have? Infinity and Who clearly have reasons but what is their reason other than Moona being autistic? Why is it so hard for anyone to not obey the tech limit.

>>38828533
Ah I see, I will do that.

>>38828665
i suppose so. I think area 15 lore is that risu gets more land but shit tech and your nation is smaller but gets fancier shit right?

>>38829438
I'm not Moonafic, I was the person discussing this with him.

>>38827233
Let's not focus on night vision or not but the general abilities of /moon/ chuubanite. What is the core concept for /moon/ chuubanite? Nightvision is kind of a no brainer for a chuuba that's related to the Night. But what about the application by normal people? How can chuubanite help with their everyday life? You can always just limit the night vision thing to catalognauts. I'm also a little bit confused as to how your catalognaut have "tracking ability". Maybe that's just a misreading both by me and other anons. Blinding them is completely fine especially as light is one of the forms magic energy are expended. Everyone can do it theoretically and for catalognauts they just need a glyph that's tattooed or otherwise on their bodies.

>>38828533
Well jannies aren't just entities that simply follow their pre-programmed rules. It's something that I've been thinking about, how to represent the supposed personality and biases of jannies. If /moon/ has their own native janny then I guess they could sometimes call on it to remove schizos.

>>38827738
Just describing normal camouflaging (social or otherwise) should be enough. Disguising as another nationality's ships is a common enough tactic. I think trying to come up with a system to explain specific behavior is probably detrimental.

>>38828784
Having one or two supposedly anachornistic tech should be fine. Espically if they are magic powered. it is a (low) fantasy world afterall.

>>38829438
Yea, i sort of wrote that but we really aren't industrialized and the whole advanced thing is just an idea from mooner being autistic about things in minecraft for example. I have looked at several things that sound like their problem was those issues irl just now, Ferguson rifle, Whitworth rifle, and Lepage carbine and the air rifle. All are complex, and though whiteworth the one the sticks out, I think it might work given how complex it is and hope it does because the idea of having a gun that can shoot 1000 yards but is prone to issues sounds fun!

>>38829724
>Well jannies aren't just entities that simply follow their pre-programmed rules. It's something that I've been thinking about, how to represent the supposed personality and biases of jannies. If /moon/ has their own native janny then I guess they could sometimes call on it to remove schizos.
Yeah, that's what I mean with the "report ritual" bit, but it's still probably not like, a power "Dude X" has, right? There aren't anons who are friends of the janny (since they're anonymous), and the ritual wouldn't be 100% reliable.

>>38829724
ummm, I need to think more about normal people, as i want it to help in daily life. I am thinking music... Tracking... Idk, that just was something that came to mind.

>>38829855
The thing about whitworths is that they use percussion caps. Although you can most likely modify them to be flint-locks instead. The biggest problem is ammunition manufacturing. whitworths are accurate because of the tight fit between the hexagonal bore and the bullets (also hexagonal). You need to understand how difficult it was to make ammunition of uniform dimensions before we have precise bullet swaging.

>>38830224
Which is why i think it works since it would be hard to ever get this in mass at all. Like I am thinking chuubanite gets used in this somehow with all of these autistic things.

>>38829928
Yeah I agree. However if /moon/ worships jannies I can see the lines about jannies being more a literary expression by the storyteller, instead of actual power.

>>38830024
Go over the green boxes in the chuuabnite doc again? We can help you brainstorm some ideas. https://rentry.org/chuubanite

>>38830394
Yes! I think I have it. The key words are Creativity, Autism and Complexity. There is a word I think that encompasses this but that is sort of what Moon would be in my opinion.

>>38830379
>gunsmiths spending an entire day to shape a bullet
Sasuga...
Well the whole point for whitworths is that it's actually easier to make them accurate compared to rifling circular bores. It's not completely implausible. I don't really see how chuubanite can be involved in the manufacturing of barrels but I'll leave the final decision to you.

>>38830607
Precisely, kek. We have no real mass industry so these would be just be some autistic gun smiths somewhere making it.

>Just chillin' with the boys, shooting squirrels from 1000 metres away. Nothing major.

How's moona thread's actual relationship with jannies?

>>38833040
Good actually, our meido is good at bonking idiots.

When communism comes around, who would be their most hated nation? Nasfaq? Where would it first emerge? /who/ i think

>>38833669
Could be funny, some socialism with the boys, don't count on it thought. Could easily go into some hyper-nationalist thing too. Options are limitless

>>38833669
Feudalism is considered an even more backwards stage of development in the socialist societal pipeline, so they might have even more issues with those than nasfaqg.

>>38833952
>The Ultra Capitalist and the Ultra Communist unholy alliance to rid the world of tyrants and despots
k-kino?

>>38834076

>>38833952
The whole thing about socialism was a response to the industrial revolution and its effect on the working class. Feudalism is backward to them but the revolution was always supposed to be in an industrial nation.

>>38834076
You're right, but that seems a bit orthogonal. Feudalism can exist in both industrial and pre-industrial societies. The Bolsheviks' revolution tore down Tsarism. Exploitation of the working class can take multiple forms.

>>38834359
At least in nasfaqg the working class and the elite are generally equal where it comes to stuff like laws, rights, and taxation, and a working class citizen has a chance rise up the social hierarchy. None of these are usually the case under a feudal system.
In nasfaqg, the workers can go "fuck you" and leave the factory, and they are free to do so unless there is some legal issues with their contracts, which usually can be solved without violence.
Now, what do you think happens to commoners who say "fuck you" to their lords and refuse to work their fields or workshops under a feudal system?

>>38835020
>But true capitalism has never been tried! The USA is crony capitalism!
>Oh yeah? Watch THIS
>Points to the Serene Republic

>>38835146
>Implying the absurdly low hat odds on gacha isn't cronyism

>>38835146
technically, "true capitalism" has been tried multiple times, and succeeded a fair amount until more established governments typically took them over. the ones that were located in more isolated locations could last in prosperity for 2 centuries, even at moderate size, but they almost never survive government encroachment, especially by more militarized governments. certain types of monarchy could arguably be a good compromise between true capitalism, and a nation that can defend itself militarily, but that's just my opinion.

>>38834540
>tsardom
Abolished serfdom 50 years before and the revolution overthrew Kerensky, not Nicky.
>>38835020
>what happens
You go to your king. Serfs have rights kek and most nations in this world arent even feudal

>>38836828
>Abolished serfdom 50 years before and the revolution overthrew Kerensky, not Nicky.
Noble landowners continued to exist after the abolition of serfdom until the October Revolution, where all classes of nobility were abolished. Granted, that 1850-1900 period doesn't explicitly fit the mold of feudalism, it just had some familiar dynamics at play.

>>38836828
>You go to your king. Serfs have rights kek and most nations in this world arent even feudal
How often does a single peasant's voice equal or overpower that of a duke?

>>38837195
I mean… as you said its far more complex than that but remember that Marx envisioned the revolution in an industrialized society like Britain or Germany

>>38837760
Marx wanted communism to be a labor union-council thing. With the long term end goal being an anarchist-laborer system. Not Lenin's vanguard or Stalin's industrialisation.
So if things go exactly as planned, socialism should be born as a post-industrial reaction against factories and mechanisation. Not against nobles and kings.

>>38839437
I doubt there would be a place for a king or nobility in an "anarchist-laborer system"

>>38839770
Perhaps... But with Established Titles, you too can become landed nobility, even in an anarchist-laborer system!

>>38839770
Obviously. But that comes secondary. Marx-Communism's primary objective in its pure intended form is to turn industrialised society into anarcho-labour unions. A socialist revolution in Vitubia would target the industrial revolution hotspots first.
/who/, /kfp/, /inf/ to name a few.
Less Bolshevik Revolution, more Spartacus Uprising. Keywords would be labor unions, general strikes, and industry.

>>38839770
>he doesnt know about anarcho monarchism

>>38840608
I very much prefer anarcho-fascism

>>38840970
Why not simply anarcho-authoritarianism?

>>38841016
too vague

>>38841016
It's a real thing, Gabriele D'annunzio is a practical example of someone actually doing it. The Regency of Fiume had policies and ideas that laid the foundation for Mussolini's fascism.
Modern versions include NAM.

https://rentry.org/szeth

i did the thing. will not be anchored until i hear from people and stuff. probably repost next bread. Oh and yeah this will be the beginning of an ACTUAL RISUNER LORE DOC!? HOLY SHIT IM FINALLY DOING THE THING!

>>38841277
ISREAL?

>>38717880
https://rentry.org/8y67n
my first "story" is displaying the royal audiences that subjects can have and how justice works. place it under Lusitania stories please.

>>38841496
Nice, it's happening. Good stuff OG. The dynamic between the molerisuners and the others is interesting, it comes up a few times.

>>38841496
good work og, but maybe keep it even more vague since i do not think risuners really have any records of anything and likely have oral history.

>>38841756
Maybe they scratched their history on the trunks of trees.

>>38841823
well that might be true, but with his national theme i just think it would be cooler to have it mystical and mythical in many ways. he has an opportunity to do something special in that regard at least, but thats my opinion.

>>38841877
He already is doing something special, he really doesn't need your suggestions to make it better, but that's just my opinion.

>>38841496
Two questions:
1. Since Risuners and the other ID Gen1 has been around /jp/, what were you guys up to after the split?
2. I see molerisuners, but what about the other Risuner ethnics mentioned?

>>38841756
>>38841823
>>38841877
thats why i put (exat date unknown) so that it could be edited. I dont fucking know so i just threw out numbers. The only number i didnt throw out is 463. 463 is the original risu thread. >>38765005
for image of it

>>38841928
ah, so that is how it is then. well, no matter i guess giving suggestions to ogsuner is pointless despite him asking for it. /risu/ timeloops kek.

>>38841277
anarchism never ceases to amaze me

>>38841956
1. No fucking idea.
2. Work in progress. MAgic ones and WAR ones didnt exist until they were needed to. At first i would like to think it was tree and farm/plain ones then the mole ones.

>>38842063
me btw im just a fucking derp.
>>38842010
>>38841928
i like discussion.....

>>38841928
There was nothing wrong with what he said!!!
>>38841595
Good work, even though this will be buried by Risuner lore, I love how it shows your nation!!!

>>38841956
Maybe after the /jp/ split the garrison of four /hlgg/ soldiers posted in the one /risu/ frontier watch tower disbanded and ran out into the forest, dispelling the Empire's influence in the region kek.

>>38842106
OG, he is just trying to make you re write it to fit his standards not yours.

/hag/ is henceforth known as Lanudohagulovinugo!!! You can call it Hagu for short!!

>>38842166
Solid country name.

>>38842166
based
>>38842109
thanks alice

>>38842106
thats fine og, but truth is that i would rather not get flamed anytime i offer suggestions which is common with your nation unfortunately. drama is never worth it for me.

>>38841595
I READ THE THING!
I like the sheer amount of compensation for what happened to his daughter. Dont know if thats how it went down but damn what a nice king. I mean even though the daughter has to go through the rest of her life with trauma at least he is set for life. i would talk further about it but i dont wanna trigger rape victims. even though im horny i would never resort to actual rape Anyway nicely done.
PS Kaela is sex and i will not GSH

>>38842378
OG, you dont generally have to specify you wouldnt actually rape someone...