/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Looks cute, post ch link

Based hypochondriac

>>3863272
https://youtube.com/c/comfyRanaVODs

Gay and crinch

>>3863208
dunno if i want to take mental health advice from someone who cannot even be sure what's between their legs

>>3863386
Dropped

>>3863208
>enby- they/them
I was hoping that it wouldn't be that way, but of course it was. I'm sorry, this sort of stuff needs to be rooted out of the industry before it poisons it in the way it does everything else.

>>3863208
>tumblr avatar

>>3863208
He's got a picture of himself on the twitter too. No thanks.

>>3863208
I misread that as "starting screaming in 2017"

>>3863208
Wait, it's a man?

>>3863208
>autistic
>tranny
Like clockwork

>>3863681
if it is that's a very feminine... everything really

>>3863208
I hate autistic girls

>>3863208
>fake "muh mental illness" nigger
>heterochromia
>sjw buzzwords
into the TRASH

>>3863681
Nah, just not a pretty girl.

t. trannyconnoisseur

>>3863208
It's a shame, because I could have gone for a stream like this without the weird identity politics shit.

not interested in politic-themed entertainment

>>3863882
I love autistic girls!

>>3863429
Nijisanji has enbie liver and literally no one gives a shit

>>3863386
Picked up.

>>3864301
Do they? Assuming it's a trap/Hideyoshi, that's very different than western they/them shit.

>>3864301
Let me guess. An x-gender clown? I bet they're not topping the niji popularity charts. There's a reason for that.

She literally ended up turning herself into non-binary because she couldn't get money off being disabled. Since day one she 'came out' as non-binary she would seethe on discord and attack anyone kek.

Are you self-posting by chance

>>3863208
Cute design

>>3864459
she posts here? I just saw her tweet.

Her model and design are really nice. I wish I had some gifs from twitter but I'm too lazy to download them so have a link
https://twitter.com/comfyRana/status/1392977143764856841

>>3864379
>>3864399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB2a9LDd_-o
Melissa's pretty cute imo, really good singer too

>>3863208
Why did she show up her fucking face on her twitter? Why? Fucking hell, so upset now.

>>3864459
>>3864508
>>3864537
>>3864645
>she
>her
Look at the image on twitter. That's clearly a man pretending to be a woman (or some made up shit in between).

>>3864602
The being delusional about her gender part kills it for me.

>>3864379
Melissa said explicitly she doesn't feel attachment to either gender. I don't mind it myself

>>3864697
Wow it almost as if people don't look like super models who been photoshot and had every part of their body filled

>>3864508
>she posts here?
I doubt it. There are EN vtuber indies on this board but if she is, she's never self posted. Seems more of the twitter type anyway.

>>3864645
She was a facecam streamer before she became a vtuber

>>3864697
Born female, now identifies as non binary. And this isn't dox it's all on her main vtuber twitter.

>>3864828
No, man. There's a difference between not looking like a supermodel and looking like an uncanny tranny. Besides, why would you post your obviously unpassing self on social media? It doesn't get more yab than that.

>>3864916
>now identifies as non binary
You understand that this niche tumblr identity shit is never going to be accepted, right? People ridicule it because it is inherently ridiculous. If it weren't being ridiculed you'd know that something is wrong.

>>3865422
cope more polfag

>>3863208
>>3863386
I don't get it, this is just your average scot.

>>3865422
why are you freaking out about this? go outside and touch grass

>>3865525
back to >>>/tumblr/

this thread is absolute proof that bri'ish women literally can't pass, which is why the whole island probably hates transes so much - genuine fear

>>3865838
No, you see what I'm doing is expressing my dislike and lack of acceptance for people who are okay living in this farce where a man can become a woman and gender is on a spectrum. That sort of shit isn't good for anyone.
Maybe you need to reconnect with reality if you've bought into that tumblr level shit.

>>3863386
ruined
>western indie vtubers
never again

>>3863681
>Wait, it's a man?
No, it's a scotsman

>>3863208
The only Scottish VTuber I will accept is if their avatar and personality is pic.

>>3863208
Comfy as fuck. If you can get past the enby shit she's amazing.
Though the shitstorm she kicked up when she came out as enby still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and she hasn't been able to recapture the same feeling of comfiness since redebut.

>>3863208
They are someone I want to like, but I just find them a little boring? mostly because they just play mobile games so eeeeehhh

>>3865422
Honestly, I've only recently found out about non-binary and it makes a fucking annoying amount of sense about how I feel about myself.

>>3867755
Anon, just stop hanging around with those faggots, find friends who aren't obsessed with that shit and you'll be happy.

>>3867755
Anon, just cut your dick off and youll be happy.

>>3867648
Not a big fan of the cow ears tho, kinda like the old model. I think the enby thing might be more typical in autism tho, like, gender is a construct right? Autists tend to fall outside the range of normalised things like that and kinda struggle to associate with either side. Their model is quite feminine so I assume they don't want to make any radical changes to themselves.

>>3863208
Oh, OK, DCD is 'just' dyspraxia. Yay. dyspraxia representation I guess.

>>3867755
What annoys me about it so much is that there's no room for feminine men, or masculine women anymore. It all has been subsumed by this obsessive gender identity hideousness. It represents this hyperfixation on something that warrants almost no fixation at all. It's trained people to care about something that is just a distraction from actually getting shit done in your life. It's paralysed people that way.

You're not non-binary. You're gender is perfectly explained within the binary, and your trained fixation on something that is insignificant is hideous.

>>3868106
>gender is a construct right?
for autisits? maybe

>>3868106
I just hope her streams improve as her mental health does.

>>3865665
This guy gets it

>>3868254
The thing is, nonbinary is just an empty signifier in general. Most people are not gender stereotypes and labeling yourself for being non-standard is essentially just being vain about a trivial thing.

>>3868679
I mean, for some people a label is important. I do know one skeevy guy who calls himself non binary though and uses it as a kind of "I'm not like other guys" sorta way to get into peoples pants.

>>3868454
Hope they find some more success, though they are quite isolated and as far as I can remember, have never collabed with anyone. The UK vtuber scene is pretty small, aside from Rana I can only think of veibei, froot and that crab who seems to be in hiding since that yab.

>>3863429
I just feel like it's polite to respect peoples wishes like that, it's not a big deal.

>>3863208
overdesigned piece of trash with mental issues as a personality

>>3869662
If somebody tells you about the gnomes that live in their teeth, humoring does them no favors.

>>3867755
It's okay to have feminine interests as a man and have masculine interests as a woman. Every guy here is into vtubers because they like cute things to at least some degree. Don't let that trans shit get its claws into you. Being happy with who you are is not in any way predicated on adhering to those labels.

>>3864301
But the nb liver from niji is genuinely ambigious Design-wise. This one looks 200 % like a girl but still wants special snowflake treatment.

Like if someone with a Tamaki level design goes "hurr durr enby" I get it. But the mental health sheep has not a single male design element.

>>3869662
It's polite not to pressure people into addressing you in whatever whimsical and politically charged way you so wish, anon. I'm not being respected when someone who is obviously a man, or a woman asks me to identify them as the opposite gender, somewhere in between, or some entirely different species. So fuck 'em.

>>3867095
Back to /pol/

>>3870024
Yeah, it's so weird that I see so many people be like "I like cute things so I can't be a man anymore". I literally used to be an exec in a multi national corp before founding my own start up, and I never hid that I like cute stuff. I had a cute Kuromi (Sanrio character) plush that my GF gifted me on my table. I'd even wear anime clothing to after work events. Never once did I think that I'd get my man card revoked for that, and it someone would poke fun at it you just counter them. Anon, never care about what other people think.

>>3870541
Give up. You're progressive idpol wankery will never be accepted, twitumblr.

>>3870462
If someone asks you to do something, what does it really cost you to do so? Of course, if you don't care about making the people around you comfortable, that's fine. But then you can't really get upset when they don't like you.
It costs you nothing to use words that make others comfortable and it makes their day a little better.

There's nothing wrong with being nice to people, even if you don't want to interact with them.

>>3870995
meds

>>3870995
You are already losing.

>>3863208
>Advocacy
>positive change
>education awareness
>promote kindness and understanding
Its probably me being jaded but I can't help but see these words as a Trojan horse for nonsensical bullshit that has ruined many hobbies and communities. Maybe I'm wrong (and I hope I am) and shes actually trying to promote actually positivity in the lives of others but I'm just so tired of seeing those words.

>>3871170
>>3871061
Try spouting that shit in real life and see who accepts it. There's a reason why lgbt voting bloc acceptance has plummeted over the padt few years in the West.

>>3869264
What happened with crab?

>>3871498
holy mother of cope

>>3863208
Having flaws and wearing them like a badge is not an identity or character any more than my left foot is; being born is not an achievement, treating your flaws as deserving of praise or adulation just marks you as lazy, entitled and full of excuses.
Character and identity come from the things you do and the challenges you overcome. A wounded veteran isn't special because he has no legs, he's special because he learned to walk again on prosthetics and strives to reach life goals in the face of adversity.

>>3871575
Dilate, detrans, death

>>3871630
you first faggot

>>3863386
Thrown at wall.

Who's the rocket girl someone mentioned yesterday?

>>3871684
Nah, I don't plan on heading in that direction. That's your stock that does that.

>>3867755
Don't brainwash yourself with bullshittery. Every person is different so is their life, there's no such thing as gender. It's fine to like ""feminine"" things as a man. Stop before you go full autismo kek

People who have severe self-esteem issues will make up mental illnesses and genders to appear special and to try and find SOME excuse for their inferiority. Instead of improving themselves, they surround themselves with other mentally ill and lean into their problems instead of trying to find solutions. A sad cycle. I won't support this behavior.

>>3872101
Being gender you feel most comfortable as is in essence of being yourself

>>3871521
holoschizos harass her since she said kson

>>3872250
Yes, this is the lie you're sold. That your gender is a puzzle that needs to be solved. Far from discovering anything authentic about yourself, you are just sublimating your identity to this bizarre obsession with gender. This is not normal behaviour. This is taught.

>>3869662
It's more polite not to put words in my mouth and try to change my speech/reality.
Your pronouns are "I" and "me"; what I choose to call you is my prerogative.

>>3872250
If that's such a huge part of your personality, then you probably aren't emotionally mature yet. You should be able to be you no matter what. These mentally ill say gender doesn't matter, but then go and make up all these genders and pronouns . If gender doesn't matter, then saying you're male or female shouldn't matter either. Breaking off from male or female is just an attempt to come off as having some sort of personality when one's lacking such.

>>3871606
To be clear she spent like 10 minutes on this slide during the 3 debut stream, she mostly just plays gaems. I just screenshotted that part because I knew it was easy (You) s on veetee

>>3872532
You seem upset about other people's speech and reality.

>>3873448
Couldn't you say the same thing, but the other way around...

>>3873448
Their lived experience means absolutely nothing. No more than the lived experience of a schizo who thinks he's a foreign prince, or some shit.

>>3873120
10 MINUTES?! Why even spend 10 seconds on it unless it's how you overcame it? No one wants to watch a vtuber (or any youtuber) to be confronted with their mental baggage. They are NOT traits, they are flaws; something to be beaten and overcome, not proudly displayed for the world to see.

>>3873707
You seem very mentally immature, but this is 4chan so I don't really expect well thought out points.

>>3863386
this is what I get for hoping

>>3871018
>It costs you nothing to use words that make others comfortable
Are you acting deliberately dense? You passively woke types always have this identical reponse of "Why can't you just be nice? How does it effect you?". Yeah, putting pressure on me to play along in a farce by using your bastardised alien language and pretending x is y couldn't negatively impact me in any way, right? Peformatively, I might as well be a progressive by that point, if I'm essentially reading from the same hymn sheet as them. It's all about forced compliance with a worldview and you have to jbe some kind of either dense, or dishonest not to see that.

>>3874258
Nah, he's right, and the sooner this becomes the standard response the sooner these people will be forced to confront their issues and become better for it rather than hiding behind a made up identity.

>>3874551
It's about respecting the wishes of others and being nice. Why are you so aggressive and so hostile? Is there any reason to be angry at me? Have been rude towards you?
Tell me honestly what your problem is with being nice to people, I'd really like to know.

You should really think about what your attitude has gotten you, maybe visit 4chan a little less. You'll grow out of your edgy teenager phase soon.

>>3874258
Then go somewhere else if you don't like it here. Is it that hard? Sticking around this website when you can't stomach the irreverence for something ridiculous like gender spectrum wank is much more a sign of immaturity than not having patience, or undue reverence for someone's relativistc lived experience.

>>3873707
Meds.

>>3874921
statistic, now

>>3870462
>>3874551
Based

>>3874258
my lived experiences tell me you are a massive homosexual

>>3874874
>It's about respecting the wishes of others and being nice.
It's like you didn't even read his post.

>>3874874
I would call this autism but plenty of high functioning people lack self-awareness too.

>>3875208
I did read it, he spouted some schizo shit about how being nice is a great evil, while implying that it will negatively impact him in some way and that's he's pretending to be polite anyway.
So the appropriate question is "why not just stop pretending and just be nice?" What is the actual negative impact?

>>3874874
>Play into my unhealthy fantasy or else you're evil
>I am rational and you're the one being mean.
Sometimes the best thing you can do for somebody is tell them when they're being a massive faggot.

>>3874982
Keep seething at people who live how they want

>>3875404
have I been rude or unpleasant?

>>3875434
I didn't say any of that, anon. You're conflating what I am saying what you assume to be true about people who say the same thing, but have a different reason for saying it.

>>3874874
I'm 30, so that obviously isn't happening. Maybe you'll grow out of this immature phase where you conflate maturity with undue reverence and respect for things that don't deserve it.
Guilting people into using politically charged language so that they can be in all but word on side with your progressive wank is not nice. So I'm not going to pay you back with niceness. Stop hiding behind this "Just be nice." act, you walking stereotype of a woketard.

>>3875530
>live how they want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKy39AgWtkY

>>3875431
>I did read it, he spouted some schizo shit about how being nice is a great evil
No, he just spouted shit about being true to himself. You need some meds, my man.

>>3875541
You really have to go back

>>3875434
>Here's shit you didn't say but I'm making up to make your position look worse

Not him but that's dishonest and dumb.

>>3863208
The only sheep I recognize is Watame, tranny.

>>3875660
How is that relevent to what I said

>>3876089
Encouraging mental illness instead of actually helping them does more damage than good.

>>3875431
so he is a schizo because he doesn't want to call a trannies by their pretending gender?

>>3863386
>pronouns fag
blocked. I dont want to see any semblance of the Religion of progressivism in my hobby

>>3874874
indulging in peoples unhealthy delusions is not "being nice", it's condoning and allowing dangerous behaviors that will ultimately do more harm than good. They have to come to terms with who they are, pretending otherwise will only hurt them in the end.

>>3876178
Trans is no longer considered a disease by medical and scientific community. Get with times. Same with gay people. Except maybe if you live in Saudi Arabia. Even in Iran they accept it

>>3875577
>Maybe you'll grow out of this immature phase where you conflate maturity with undue reverence and respect for things that don't deserve it.
I never said anything about what I personally think about this pronoun nonsense, it's interesting that you accuse me of anything like that.
You essentially are acting like an NPC, you recognize a thing you don't like and you have a single way you can respond it. Because you don't really read what I am saying, you just imagine what I think. I personally don't think very much about pronoun nonsense, but that's because I think it's largely irrelevant in the English language. But I still use what people ask me to use, because they do. It's simply about respecting people's wishes in a small way that doesn't affect you in any tangible way. All this "oh you have to be true to yourself and what you believe in" is nonsense, because people are not ideology.
Others are just people, like yourself. How would you feel if everyone just called you nigger? Would you enjoy being called nigger by everyone everywhere all the time and even the people you'd expect to have at least an amicable relationship with?
I don't think you would like that very much, at least not long term, but feel free to disagree.

Again, I genuinely want to know:
What's really so wrong with being nice to people?

>>3875993
I've been here for much longer than you.

>>3876297
No, the reason he's a schizo is his justification for it.

>>3876380
>concernfagging
lmao

>>3876529
and insisting people call people by their preferred pronouns so they don't feel bad isn't?

>>3863208
the ears are freaking me out, they look oddly realistic and glued on to the anime girl.
it's disturbing.

>>3876797
No, that's just being polite.

Doesn't Thailand traditionally have like 5 or 6 genders? Who gives a shit

>>3876383
>Conflating pronouns with slurs.
Ogey.

>>3865665
this is why Scotland will lose.

>they/them pronouns

Come on my nigga

>>3875431
So you didn't read, or aren't willing to listen. Compelling politically partisan speech by guilting me into being "just nice" is essentially putting me in a position where I'm performatively progressive.
Using my own words that describe reality how I see it is at minimum frowned upon. I don't want to play your weird language game.
If you still refuse to see how being compelled to call x y can have a negative impact on someone, then there's no point in continuing this conversation cause clearly you're just being obtuse.

>>3876938
I dunno about you, but it's an easy example of something you don't want to be called all the time everywhere.

>>3876383
Meds.

>>3876923
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>3876905
explain why you should care about being polite without concernfagging

>>3877127
That example doesn't work, that's why it's conflating. Doesn't even have the same context for the situation. Getting called a nigger by someone is not only intentional, but malicious. Opting out of the pronoun game made by prograssives isn't anything like that. Just means you don't share the world view.

>>3876383
Pot calling kettle, etc. Your whole just be nice routine is the exact some npc shit that you get tired of hearing from wanks who just want to get you to comply with their nonsense.
If you think the pronoun shit is nonsense then who are you going out of your way to enable it? The more you say to these people that it's okay and that you'll validate their nonsense, the more nonsense you'll end up getting. You're incentivising nonsense. You're incentivising more of these stupid, stupid people who care far too much about what dumb gender identity they have, rather than good, likeable people who use that energy doing something cool with their lives.

>>3877124
Let me repeat myself.
I am not trying to guilt you, I am just asking what your issue with being nice to people is. Why can't you just tell me? You're scared of answering this point. Do you want me to do it for you?
Here I go:
>people who want you to use specific pronouns are not human and do not deserve human rights, so I don't need to be nice to them
You can be as edgy as you like on this website, why are you pussyfooting around what you think? Just say it.

>>3877213
There's a few reasons for being nice.
The most obvious one is, every person you meet and interact with more than once can be a potential resource for you to use. Be it for emotional labor, be it to ask for a favor, be it to potentially gain access to their social circles and gain access to potentially utilize these peope as a resource as well.
You don't just make friends to feel good, you make friends, because you can get something out of them.
The second reason is that if you treat people well, they will offer at least a comparable level of politeness. It costs you nothing and you can only benefit by being nice to people. And keep in mind that being nice doesn't mean letting people walk all over you, just that you treat them with dignity.

My viewpoint isn't any grand narrative or cause, I don't believe in anything. I don't give a shit, but I care about myself. And treating people well makes them more likely to treat you well in turn.
My viewpoint may be different from yours, but I see every person I meet in real life as a resource.

>>3877502
If someone asks you to do something and you ignore what they ask of you, you are at the very least you are not respecting their wishes. You are attacking them.

>>3877579
Yes, but my reasons for being nice are very different from what you'd hear from the average "woketard" or whatever it was you called me.

Calling you "she" does nothing to solve your insecurity about not deserving to be called a man. It does nothing to change the fact that you're a thin-skinned little faggot allowing yourself to be socially subjugated and defined as lesser by your fellow men. As long as you remain a pathetic, self-hating pushover, nothing is ever going to get better for you, no matter what identity you adopt.

You were born with a penis; you're a man. End of story. What kind of man you want to be is up to you. The only thing stopping you from living however you want, as a man, is your lack of self-confidence; your underlying belief that you ARE too feminine, too weak, unable to compete with other men, and have the wrong interests; that everything they've told you over the years was right, and that you should behave accordingly.

None of that is my problem. I'm not the one who needs to grow a fucking spine and face up to reality, so I'm not going to partake in your absurd coping mechanism that is preventing you from doing that very thing. Sort yourself the fuck out and leave me alone, you mentally ill pussy.

>>3877925
>why can't you just be nice
>just be nice it's not hard!
>be nice be nice be nice
>if you don't say they/them you're not being nice.
>I'm not trying to guilt you
nigger, please.

>>3877925
>you are at the very least you are not respecting their wishes. You are attacking them.
No, I'm not. where do you even get this stuff man. Hypothetically, I'm just using words. Opting out by using words. There is no attack, because there was no aggression. Plus, nobody is beholden to respect wishes from a stranger y'know. Do you also think not getting the door for someone is an attack on them? Just opting out of something isn't the worst thing to do. It's not even bad. Come on man, you gotta see what you're even saying.

ITT: insecure fags

>>3877925
No, man. I've answered this point in at least two different posts now. Let me answer it yet another way. Being nice to a drug addict isn't sticking him with a syringe full of whatever. It's not horribly mean of me if I refuse to reinforce a bad behaviour.
I've went over the guilting and the political partisanship behind that, which you are obviously doing despite your claims that you're not.
You seem to have a definition of nice that just means do whatever and say whatever is the mist expedient in placating in the moment with no regard for yourself. That's an amazingly immature way of looking at being nice.

>>3878481
The thing is, if you wanted to opt out, you'd just avoid pronouns entirely. But you don't want to opt out. You want to make the other person feel bad, by using words to refer to them they don't you want you to use. You argue like you're talking someone who isn't used to what people say and think on this website. You're feigning ignorance, you're trying to justify and downplay what you really think, because that's how you'd argue this point on a website like twitter or facebook or wherever the kids go these days.
Why don't you just say what you really want to say about this "pronoun issue"? Please stop pretending or go back wherever you came from where you need to self-censor in such a way.

>>3879211
It is not your job to save others from themselves and there is no need to feign concern, if you do not even want to extend basic courtesy to them.
You don't care about saving them from themselves, why pretend, as I told the other poster. Just say what you really think, you're not on a website where it gets you in trouble.
I said what I really think about politeness, it's only fair if you do yours.

>do whatever and say whatever is the mist expedient in placating in the moment with no regard for yourself
No, not "no regard for myself", but "only regard for myself".

>>3879653
>you'd just avoid pronouns entirely.
But also avoiding pronouns entirely is also not validation by their standards.

>>3879653
If there's an adult male in a diaper, rolling around on the floor and making baby noises I'm not going to do him the courtesy of treating him like a baby. I'm going either take a wide berth, or I'm going to tell him to stop being an idiot and pretending to be a baby. I'd find it infuriating if more people started acting like him, so in that regard it serves me to not validate his nonsensical behaviour more than it does to say what might get me out if trouble in the moment.

>>3879653
>you want to make the other person feel bad. Yes, because they should feel bad.

>>3880243
That's not comparable and you know it. I think my "imagine everyone calls you a nigger all the time" is more applicable.
Generally in such a situation I'd just politely ignore it.

>>3880462
That's better.

>>3880493
Again, Conflating slurs and pronouns is not applicable. Get another example.

>>3880602
Neither is conflating play acting as a baby and pronouns, so you should also get another example. My point was that mine is closer than yours.

>>3880493
It is completely comparable. Both examples are equally ridiculous and unreal. You are not an adult baby and you are not the invented gender you say you are. Both are fantastical.

>>3880493
Why is it not comparable?

>>3880664
Wasn't me, and I think that guy's was shit too. It's still up to you to bring a more appropriate example though.

>>3880684
But nobody is talking about "being a gender". We are talking about using words to refer to people because they ask you to.

>>3880701
Why is "everyone calls you nigger" not comparable?

>>3880493
>Everyone calls you a nigger all the time
If that continues, don't you just incorporate that into your identity? It's a nickname at that point, it's normalized and you play around with the concept after enough time has passed, unless you have sub zero self confidence and wince every time someone drops the word. Assuming your friends, peers and colleagues call you nigger though, I can only see it becoming a nickname.

>>3880745
For fuck sake. They are words that have meanings that pertain to specific genders. If you use female pronouns for a man you are either acknowledging the lie that he is actually a woman, or you are being dishonest in using words without meaning them. I'm not fond of doing either. Particularly for vain, identity obsessed idiots who fall apart when they don't get their way, or aren't 100% validated. I don't have any love for these weasels.

Vtuber playing heartbeat when?

She probably paid upwards of 8k for the model and art but she makes it move like a 500$ rig. She doesn’t know how to puppet it at all.

>>3881340
So?
What does it matter? Pronouns do not have meanins that pertain to specfic genders. The purpose of a pronoun is to substitute for a noun in a sentence. The noun here being a proper noun, specifically the name of the person you use the pronoun you refer to. It is not tied to a specific gender, but to a specific person.

>Particularly for vain, identity obsessed idiots who fall apart when they don't get their way, or aren't 100% validated. I don't have any love for these weasels.
If you don't want to make use of these people, that's fine. But it tends to be very easy to get favors out of these people.

>>3877124
Wow. This honestly reads just like a SJW post about why you SHOULD call someone by their preferred pronoun. Just that in this case it's about why you shouldn't.

Actually, it's just a SJW post because social justice can go both ways.

>>3881760
>Don't you think those Anti-SJW's are just as bad?
You're as transparent as wet tissue

>>3880745
>We are talking about using words to refer to people because they ask you to.
So you will refer to an adult male as a baby if he ask you to. Just like how you will refer to a male as a female if he ask you to. How is this not comparable again?

>>3881968
babies don't talk

>>3881932
No argument.

>>3881988
holy shit hahahahaa

>>3881988
female don't have a male chromosome.

>>3881668
I was going to say I press D to doubt but then I looked at the commission prices that yueko has, up to $2000 for a simple picture. I could see a live2D from her costing $5000, and then she got Brian Tsui to rig it so that would probably be $1000-2000 based on what I've heard about Iron Vertex rigging prices.

>>3882081
Fitting, seeing as how you can't muster anything beyond a "no u".

>>3882355
Maybe, but we are not talking about platonic abstractions of "male" and "female", but simply about people who ask you to do a thing, ESL-chaman.

>>3863208
>pronouns

Throw the whole sheep out

>>3875541
Again, do you know where the fuck you are? No one cares how you come across, whatever is posted here is judged, can be judged in any way and capacity. None of this matters so long as its archived and subsequently deleted. Nothing is real, everything is permitted.

>>3884398
Interesting that you tell me that.
Have you see the way the people I've been talking to have been framing their arguments?
I don't think you understood the context of what I said. You should take an english class.

>>3863386
Sheep-fucking is non-binary, correct.

>>3865838
>go outside and touch grass
go back

sneed

>>3864399
Ryushen has almost 450k subs lmao.

>>3863386
Dodged.
I guess I'm sticking to 1 therapy sheep.

>listen man I'm just an uninterested party but could you use their words please? Come on man what does it hurt you? Just be nice and play their game despite them having no love for you and them wanting to shut you up on social media and in real life when you dissent from their progressive views. What about their lived experience? Come on man, just humour these poor people so that they don't go jump off a bridge
No.

>>3871018
Go back faggot

>>3869803
>>3870462
>>3872532
You literally live your lives on a site where you berate people for being new and "force/pressure" them to lurk to understand arbitrary memes and rules of how not to say "we" or be a tripfag or don't visit certain sites or space your lines too much because you all get uncomfortable and emotionally break down when people don't conform to your standards. They can say things, but they better say them the way you like them or you'll throw a shitfit. Like a child who had to eat a sandwich with the crust. You all do this much more aggressively and with a far greater sense of entitlement than this person told you their name and how to refer to them, as innocuously as a nickname. However everyone humors what is obviously your mental illness of enforcing the imaginary rules of this site in a way that doesn't improve anyone's objective productivity, subjective happiness, and in fact actively seems to make you all less fulfilled. You're content to conform to the rules of a webpage except for allowing yourself the outburst of posting occasional cunny to give yourself the illusion of freedom. Then you'll quickly fix your joke in a cold sweat if you realize it accidentally makes you sound like a "redditor". That's being polite. You're allowing yourself to be forced into what everyone else wants, and you'd never stray away from it out of fear. Of (fake) social consequences. Of being cyberbullied for one second.

The quality you value the most is of someone having been stuck on this site the longest, even though that suggests literally no positive traits: no skills or personality or virtue, only that they have nothing better to do and that they are able to fit into a mold for the longest time. This way you can pretend that all this inanity is a good thing. But you don't like being pressured into a prescribed doctrine or way of speaking? You're free to say anything like nigger or faggot without anyone hurting your feelings, right? Okay, try to post something that starts like "Me and my GF really like this VTuber" or "There's not really any good reason to hate this many chubas" and see how gracefully everyone takes it. Then go back to being polite and acting how everyone wants you to make you comfy and wuv'd~

Sorry I mean, Ogey.

>>3892638
Do. You. Know. Where. You. Are.
Just. Go. Back.

>>3863208
'Im glad they are raising aware of serious disablities like being scottish

>>3892638
A large part of the moderation of the quality of posters on this website is done through gatekeeping certain sorts of users from other sites away by identifying their typical posting styles. The styles in and of themselves aren't the problem, but when you have people migrating here from other websites that have more hands on moderation, that enforce rules against an ever broadening definition of hate speech, then it does you well to head that shit off at the pass so that it doesn't start fomenting here.
If you want to use the sites that will outright ban you instead of just roundly mocking you for not going along with it's credo then you might be more comfortable somewhere not here.

>>3893210
To be fair, we had a good run of people like Adam Smith, David Hume and even John Muir back in the day, but we fell prey to the socialism virus and became unproductive as a result.

>>3863386
>autistic
>tranny

yup

>>3892638
get a load of this troon!

Have a feeling someone made them aware of this thread.

The whole speging about pronouns aside, I'm not following why we're calling her a tranny. She has pics on her Twitter page, and she looks pretty much like a girl. Seems more like a "i behave, dress, talk and live like a girl but i swear im enby uwu" shenanigan. Am I missing something?

>>3897460
nah that's pretty much it, 4chan is just retarded.

>>3896067
> MMY PAAANTS MY PAAANTS
this retard is literally nothing but 'uwu non-binary', but is talking as if she is some ftm

>>3892638
Holy fucking based

>>3896067
Ok so not a tranny but someone who dislikes gendered language for whatever reason.

is there a welsh vtuber

>>3901055
I don't think the Welsh have good enough internet to steam

>>3901993
Yeah, Connor had to move to Japan ffs.

>>3896067
If you have autism don't come here you dumb sheep

>if I want to talk about coping strategies for autism, or anything like that, I now have to put up with all of this troomer shit intruding on the conversation
For fuck's sake. They have literally ruined mental illness.

>>3863386
Another wasted design... hard pass

>>3865422
Non binary shit should be encouraged wherever possible because it's not as predatory as the trans-binary types I've been starting to see more of.
There are legitimately communities of trans people who believe you're either a man or a woman, and it's determined by your preferred gender role. They're the ones who target effeminate dudes and competitive women for coercion into popping pills. Meanwhile non binary is just an "other" option any snowflake too special for a normal gender can be thrown into without giving them some sort of special title.
For alt-gender shit, non-binary>72 genders>trans binary.

>>3871847
This is the ultimate answer.
Gender nihilism>all alt-gender shit.

>>3885353
>>3892638
No one cares how you handle yourself, no one is impressed or otherwise. Either stay on topic, try be amusing or fuck off. And quit seething enough to tattle and break containment.

>>3877925
Offense is taken, not given.
Being non-compliant with things you believe are bullshit isn't an attack, it's self-respect aka having a spine.
FYI, I use the correct pronouns for individuals because I like harmony, but everyone who doesn't earned my respect at least for that.
I need to cut people who fell for the meme out of my life, which is kinda hard when you've known them for more than 5 years and hope they'll come to their senses..

>>3903474
>I need to cut people who fell for the meme out of my life
Why is that?

>>3896067
There is someone that does that for her or she's at least menhera enough to actually egosearch.
Either way, I'm hopeful that she will be able to get back into the swing of things and achieve the same comfiness she's famous for.

>>3863386
i KNEW this 'girl' was too good to be true

>>3863208
i've watched a couple of her clips before because youtube algo and she's cute but >>3863386 tranny

>>3892638
Based

>>3896067
This sheep is a nice person

>>3892638
>You're allowing yourself to be forced into what everyone else wants, and you'd never stray away from it out of fear. Of (fake) social consequences. Of being cyberbullied for one second.
Sounds like twitter and reddit except the consequences can be real depending on what you disagree with and having differing opinions on certain subjects is like walking on a social minefield.

>>3905700
Really like them, but never saw them on here before, was worried that it'd be a bit bad for them... Maybe my worries have been confirmed

>>3876084
That's right. We're not gonna get better.
We're gonna get much more mentally ill from now on.
The depressed crying about mistakes of the past, the autism to stream yourself in minecraft for 12 hours, weave a double helix opening up a hole into the future.

>>3905700
I think they are meant to be a Highland cow?

>>3863386
>I'm a huge faggot, please rape my face
Aaaaand dropped

>>3892638
Literally cattle mentality. Develop a human soul and grow a brain before posting.

>>3897460
Anyone mentally ill enough to use /le special pronouns uwu/ is a tranny.

1 menhera vtuber was enough to spiral you sperglords into a 2 day discourse about them.
rent fucking free

>>3896067
Anyone actually read this? She identifies as female, but is uncomfortable with being judged in that way. Just wants to be seen as something more than yet another hypersexual female vtuber.

Normally I'd try to respect their pronouns, but hopefully this gets the point across better.

>>3906972
>If it wasn't for the pronouns she'd be the perfect anglo seiso vtuber

>>3906798
>Local anon climbs pedestal over people arguing on thread and refuses to come down

>>3896067
God I hate how fucking soft the Scottish have become. Just accept your fucking sex you utter faggot
t. Scotsman

Jesus Christ y’all are insane. How does this /pol/ thread have 200 posts

>>3897460
If you need to put your pronouns in your bio you're mentally unwell enough to be on the same level as trannies. It just validates the faggots wearing makeup and dresses.

>>3907344
/vt/ is basically /pol/ & /qa/ refuge at this point

>>3907344
>waaaahhhh pls respect my abuse of the English language
kys faggot sheep

>>3907371
Well, they do hate all the Western vtubers, though I think plenty of salt is coming from cgl posters

>>3907497
If western vtubers weren't all such massive faggots we'd have no reason to hate them

I hope a new kiara thread kills this retarded thread

>>3907344
>y'all

>>3907554
Plenty of faggoty among Japanese vtubers too mate, believe it or not LGBT is a thing over there too

>>3907571
I hope you kill yourself but that's not as likely

>>3907606
I just hope you faggots seethe because your /pol/ general died for the retarded bird

>>3907605
It's not as aggressively pushed. There's a lot more yuri baiting and menhera than outright they/them pronouns and "My personality is that I like dick" that's so prevalent in the west.

>>3871606
Big mood. As a jaded radical centrist this really works for both sides of the spectrum. It's tiring to see people so obsessed over identity and things they're born with as if it is an achievement. You're not special because you are born with a different amount of melanin or chromosomes than other people.

>>3907688
>Big mood
Remove yourself from the gene pool

>>3907344
People's shitty takes aside, the enby shit does tend to get pretty disruptive and annoying. To the point that it's annoying Rana herself.

>>3907371
Honestly not worth fighting them, but they all ruined a potentially comfy "debut" (as in their first mention on VT as far as I'm aware)

But internet fights are the only ones they'd ever "win" except not really

>>3907835
Be glad you got attention at all as "comfy" is about the worst thing you can be as an entertainer

cute design but propaganda can't be art

>>3863386
Yikes. Way to bring a dose of reality into fantasy. No one watches vtubers to hear them rant about their mental issues.

>>3907729
Unfortunately I won't. You'll just have to deal with the fact that I'll have children while you seethe about women.

>>3907975
I do look forward to your partner sending you to prison for "emotional abuse" when you don't bend to their every whim

>>3908025
>implying
I'm a SEAnigger muslim. My partner/s wouldn't even have the legal rights to do that.

>>3908320
ngl mate I'm pretty jelly. Having rights over women is about the only positive of living in a third world shithole

>>3863386
Into the trash it goes

>>3863386
>thenk you
is this a gender neutral way of saying thank you?
fucking insane faggots deserve live lapidations

>>3863386
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>>3880745
Stop asking others to lie to fulfill their delusions.