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Hello my dear friends. I would like to relay some information.
Do (You) regularly post in a general? Do (You) have autism? Of course (You) do!
I know an autism project. It's active. It's collaborative.
Thank (You) for your time. I hope (You) consider checking it out.

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>LORE CATCHUP ANCHOR
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:
>>38515361
>>38520762
>>38633226
>>38645712
Reply to this post to be included in the next thread's lore catchup.
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>>38648593
https://rentry.org/vdvn3
May have been buried but here you go bois.

>>38648956
>>38648519

>>38649027
>hiring people to fight for us
Sounds about right until risuners get their shit together.

>>38649056
We gladly send hags your way! Welcome to the customer list: https://rentry.org/nazxa

>>38648519
Risuners are trying to avoid more foreign influences on their soil during their unification so not sure if they're willing to take hag mercs, but this does reignite an old flame...
>fetish colonialism
OOOO I'M COLONIZING OOOOOO

>>38649310
We don't want influence, we want husbands!

>>38649983
War spoil husbands are still husbands.

>>38650279
See, this is the beauty of hag mercenaries, those that find love among the soldiers they fight alongside can marry into that nation, those that find husbands among the prisoners can take them back to /hag/. WE WIN!

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Well anyway I'll be leaving. Sapling story is up for those who want to look at it.

Someone asked me last thread and my dumbass wrote a reply to an archived thread
If youre wondering what I feel about 'low quality' lore, Ive said before that I support a survival of the fittest stance. There is no bad writing quality unless (You) do it to yourself.
Three things to take into account
>Effort
How much effort has the writer put in their work? Did they do reps? Did they developed their side of the world?
>Popularity
Is the lore entry representing the home thread very well? Is the entry able to fit in well with the larger setting? Is the entry well received? If there are multiple writers for a single thread, what do each of them think of your entry?
And most important of all
>Feedback
Did you gave feedback? Did you pointed out mistakes and gave constructive criticisms? Can the writer rebutt and defend?
Feedback is the most important! You fucks suck at it!
Lore is not set in stone. If there are mistakes and rough edges you can revisit it later. If you wanna do something that will cause loops and shitstorm, defend yourself and proof that you deserve to put your idea out there! not fling shit around like retarded apes!
As for the new reps, hag anon and new phase anon, welcome. As long as your work represents your home thread and helps construct the world of ours youre welcomed to do any wild things you want

>>38652651
Forgot my crown

>>38652694
I made hag warriors: https://rentry.org/r5dht
Do you like them? do you want to hire mercenaries?

>>38653298
Nah. we're already a supplier of mercs in our region.
Besides, some of our chuubas are hags so

>>38653574
But that is even more reason to interact if you also have hags!

Mama Mio will never nurse you with her futa cock and fill your tum tum with warm hag cummies just like my mom did

the what?

>>38654338
If you want canonical futa women then you get on with making a semi-regular futa general

>>38654699
Well... There's a bit of futaposting in /inf/ and /morig/, I think.

>>38654699
If he wants canonical futa women he just has to make a lore entry for them

>>38654338
>>38654823
Well you heard the man. Get on it

>>38654891
If you wanted to have canonical futas to dick you down you could have just said so, no need to be tsun about it.

lore: https://files.catbox.moe/mpfast.jpg

bros these arent just regular futas he's talking about
theyre hag futas. gently nursing you with their futa cocks

>>38655299
/futa/ could possibly be an actual lore thing but I think vitubians need a reason to create futanari or at the very least we need a reason to spec bio futanari into existance.

>>38655995
meat organ grafting?
add more tissue to clits until they become actual dicks?

>>38655995
>need a reason
Why?

>>38655995
The spec bio is easy. The clitoris and phallus, and ovaries and testes are homologous structures. Tweak hormones just right during development and you can end up with a chick with a dick and ovaries full of cum (as a matter of speaking, sperm doesn't actually work like that).
As for the reason, it can be as simple as an isolated population where there was an endemic illness which heavily targeted males, reducing their evolutionary viability until they were fully replaced by futanari females. Could have some /futa/-type chuubanite in there to help things along, chuubanite has to be tied to a board concept, not necessarily a general.

>>38656912
Are futas a really popular fetish? I think it's one o the least represented in vt

>>38658501
I think it's definitely on the niche side, but it's there. I see it in /horni/ quite a bit, and it's mentioned in threads. I think it's probably comparable to guro in presence, but with a far less dedicated fanbase, instead being a side-interest of some anons.

>>38652272
>>38648956
I'll give it a read later, thanks for all your hard work auntie risu!

We doin futa lore?

>>38667816
Yes, come on in.

>>38648571
Did cunt make this OP?

Well the new monitor works. Then I found out nVidia discontinued SLI which halved my GPU performance overnight. So I guess I'm looking for a new GPU. Was hoping to wait until I build a new PC for a new GPU. Guess that means I can look for a new sound card for music creation later. I always wanted to try that.

>>38656912
Alternatively you could make a parasite.

>>38674243
Woah, you're more /d/ than I expected, nasarep.
Based
It has the advantage of not requiring as much evolutionary fussing or hormonal engineering.
But it would be a lot more challenging to explain a dick-esque parasite being able to fertilize human eggs, which would be sad for the "breeding futa" folks...

>>38674654
The thing about hermaphrodites in evolution is they often slow or stationary animals. The reason many plants and animals develope gametes for different sexes is to have better chance at reproducing. Female animals carry eggs which fertilized develop into offspring. Males develop sperm to fertilize eggs. While males don't carry fertilized offspring this makes them the more expendable sex. Males also develop more extreme traits than females. For mammals and some reptiles one male can fertilize multiple females. Which is why during war men are drafted for combat roles while women stay behind.

You would have to think what an evolutionary advantage a hermaphrodite tribe would have over typical sexes. There's also the risk of diseases, both hereditary and pathogenic, that will affect one sex or the other but would affect hermaphrodites entirely.

Females also have a limited number of egg cells while males can make limitless sperm so long as they're young and healthy.

>>38656912
Maybe it could be similar to the asian sheepshead wrasse or something of the sort. For the female wrasse when conditions are favorable they will change into a male, but perhaps in this case your futas may grow male sex organs but retain female secondary sex characteristics?

>>38679025
I believe clownfish can do this as well, and maybe a species of lizard? It's not without precedent.
>>38677381
It's kinda wild that females just have all those eggs there from the start.

Would it just be easier to have hermaphrodites be a different species derived from man than for it to be a genetic abberation?

>>38681170
Isn't a different species just a more common genetic abberation?

>>38681260
Yea

i am no longer banned. was founder here a while ago?

>>38683531
Yee. Guess you got nuked for /meat/ again?

>>38683587
yes. i was able to make a thread in /trash/ just before being banned for 3 days due to the thread i made in /vt/. i was planning to use it as a sort of base of operations that we could link in our main thread here, but then i couldn't even post in /trash/. our off-site thread was lost due to reorganization of the site, but hopefully things will return to normal soon, otherwise we'll have to start over on a few things. in the meantime, this was the only place i knew i could find the others. for the time being, we are in the difficult position of needing both stability, and the kind of growth that can only come from taking potentially destabilizing risks. i am making another /trash/ thread for the moment.

>>38684112
Have a cappy in the snow for /meat/.

https://youtu.be/JvdbZaXNXOM

>>38684191
cute. ty.

>>38684112
They're having some kind of dispute amongst each other I think with that whole sticky unsticky thing

>>38685463
dispute? you mean gurochan or the rest of the cabal? not quite sure how well i understand what you said.

>>38686294
Jannies

>>38686724
oh, sorry. what kind of dispute are they having over sticky/unsticky thing? i may have heard about it before, but i can't think of anything right now.

bump

bump

bump

>>38686864
Not ongoing, one tried to sticky a vesper return thread and one kept unstickiying

I think the thread should live

>>38693393
Me thinks the thread should die

Word cloud for previous bread.

>>38693673
and then the burgers woke up

bump

Morning. Fever today. Knocked out all day.
>>38684112
I just posted there. Thanks!

I will go on a run and then begin to fulfill my speculations as true lore.

Ah yes. I have just realized that now comes the task of actually making a lore doc of Risu to replace the shit that is in there now.

>>38699541
Only took you half a year

>>38699786
lemao.

>>38648593
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-3
Chapter X

>>38700025
I lemao'd at this despite it being well written.

>>38700025
Nice chapter. Good for Louis, he gets to hang out with the hoshis longer.

>>38653298
If we hire /hag/ mercenaries, be certain that they will return home with flat chests.

>>38703806
>All women with big chests get mammectomies
>They have to import all their baby milk from /vt/-Nestle
You played yourself, cannibal.

>>38703806
Is Akira a hag?

>>38648593
https://rentry.org/Louis-d-Avranches-Act-4
Another day, another Act. Enjoy my dear friends.

>>38703961
who said all women with big chests in general?

>>38703806
Alright, secretary man, you have gone too far!!! Not only have you denied cooperation despite claiming hags among your goddesses. You denied mercenaries in your lands, looking for husbands. Send out mercenaries out yourself to try and hog all potential husbands of the region for yourselves. But now you even threaten harm upon our honorable hag warriors. A curse upon you!!!: https://rentry.org/qubun

>>38706471
so, are you being serious or is this just some fun role-play style rivalry like what we have with /morig/? just wondering.

>>38706725
I don't think i understand your question??? I am just having fun writing! I also don't even know what nation you are mister secretary.

meatbros, do you have recommendations on how to keep slaves productive and docile?

>>38706471
So how does this fit in our magic system?

Hagbro, how have you not mentioned the greatest hag of them all...

>>38707102
I don't know! I just read about magic and thought it is fine. Is this not ok?

>>38707218
All hags are great hags!!! I am more of a holo person but i do not dislike other hags! I made sure to have non-holo hags for the ritual to show that! But the ritual might be bad as it seems so not sure what to do now...

>>38707360
nta, but i am just more confused about the 30 children part on average personally.

>>38707050
i'm not founder, and please continue to have fun.
>>38707099
pretty sure we have it in our lore somewhere.
>>38707262
i suggest looking at the chuubanite rentry just to get an idea of the kind of autism that goes on here as far as magic is concerned, with that said, anything is theoretically possible with our magic system, as long as you respect the mechanics of the system.

>>38706471
That was not Founder-kun. It was me.
>>38707099
At the very least, fulfill their basic needs.
Food, clothing, housing, entertainment, no taxes, living a free life. Populism is a drug.
You rely on the slave for labour, the slave rely wholly on you for existence. A mutual benefit.
They work non-stop but get rewarded. Basic Pavlovian conditioning.

>both PG and Meatbro got mistaken for Founder
The /meat/ cabal hivemind...

>>38707461
Ah perfect, just what I wanted to know agent 41. It is true, they pay no taxes. I know I have mentioned risuners as slaves, but who else would you recommend.

>>38707422
Thank you Agent PG! I will read it.

>>38707500
> I know I have mentioned risuners as slaves, but who else would you recommend.
Well the very least it has to reflect your thread's nature and history,
Which fandom on /vt/ do you guys hate the most? Or the ones with mixed feelings?

>>38707496
I am interested in PG's tiktok actually.

>>38707616
hmmmm, idk. Probably kobokeks and warkop in general. numberfags too.

>>38707416
Well if a man and a woman love each other a lot then children happen, in our case that happens A LOT!
>>38707422
>>38707461
Uhm i am getting confused, who is who? And how exactly can i make magic happen?

>/hag/ burns 666 children and a pregnant mother just to put a curse on /meat/
Brutal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8_-YixGGQ
>>38707718
There are four /meat/ writers
You can easily confuse them

>>38707718
i am pg, https://rentry.org/chuubanite this is the magic system. look at op for the rest of the links.

>>38707718
Well the question of number was solely down to age and fertility. Considering this is an era where dying in childbirth is common, as are stillborns, and such; I am just lost at how 30 on average is possible when you consider these factors. Also factoring in that hags are older women.

>>38707773
/hag/ just killed 600 children on a single night
/meat/ sacrificed and harvest thousands a week
The spell would get scared and just reflect back

>>38707773
They all are from the same thread? Then the curse shall stay for their transgressions!!! Also what is /meat/? I don't see a thread called that.

>>38707868
Oh my we have an actual newfag on our hands.

>>38707718
Easy
>meatbro
He types his sentences like this
which really isn't that hard to pick out.
>PG
types in all in lowercase all the time
>Founder
Angry small man, easy to pick out.
>Climate
Normal.

>>38707868
>Also what is /meat/? I don't see a thread called that.
Pain
Jokes aside, general that doubles for discuussing the most extreme or weird indie vtubers and discussing ryona/cannibalism/guro fetishes involving chuubas

>>38707844
magic presumably, the same reason why half of the nijicontinent and large portion of the holoID nations have fucked up climates
that or maybe /hag/ women work differently from average human

>>38707978
that's what I presumed but wanted an answer from them.

>>38707843
That... is a lot... can you give me a TL;DR pg?
>>38707844
Because i did not consider these factors at all since that is just depressing and unfun! Also our hags mature into hagdom much faster and thus got more time to make children.

>>38708045
Well, how about 10 to 15 on average kek. 30 would just explode the world population lmao

>>38708045
>TL;DR pg
You're better off reading the doc, it will be faster

>>38708081
i mean, the 30 says nothing about how many actually make it to adulthood

>>38708100
LMAO
>concepts.txt

>>38708045
oh sweet summer child..

>>38708121
yeah, but the issue is that about 50 documented cases of women having more than 20.

>>38708100
lol
>>38708045
everything before the "crystal math" section was designed to be very easy to understand.

>>38708045
1. Magic in this world is cloud based. You dont store magic in a wand and cast it. You create instructions and send them to magic dimension server which then sends the effects down back to you.
2. Magic is related to your belief. It depends on the themes/ideas/concepts the vtuber you worship or the philosophy of your general. Writing general's magic is related to creativity, KFP magic is related to fire, etc

>>38708170
i dont see that as a problem personally, especially if it is reasonably explained, including why the hags have not yet outbred everyone else

>>38708204
Maybe it's like India/Pakistan
Lots of children but high mortality

>>38707860
That's scary, please don't!
>>38707937
Yeah, i just joined a bit ago! Gomen for still being dumb!
>>38707957
Ok, will try to remember, founder is secretary?
>>38707958
Ok i guess to each their own. Hags don't taste good and probably are leathery, you should eat cunnies instead!

>>38708159
it's more shocking that the second one was one cooldown.

>>38708223
if hags dont taste good why do they look so delicious then? check mate

Huge hag tits marinated and roasted...
Yum

>>38708204
There isn't a problem, its more of a question about if it is magic related or not to me.
>>38708223
yes and he posts Yellow Lumi a lot.

>>38708222
that, or you could remove the "average" part of it and change it to "average hag who breeds", implying that a sizeable portion of the hags are left without husbands

>>38708263
>he posts Yellow Lumi a lot
Weirdly enough he's not a /pcg/ rep

>>38708179
the crystal maths section is relatively simple i think, at least i tried to make it clear and all

>>38708297
That's the best part.

>>38708297
He said that he used to be Cyberlivefag
Before Lumi left and his oshi Hylo turned into a slut
Then he found solace in /meat/

Meat, let's make a trade deal. Do you want to buy or sell slaves?

No you cannot have Moonas fat tits nor our women.

>>38708368
Buy? Definitely
Sell? No. Slaves here are a net negative. They will meet their end as ritual sacrifices, food, or organic material for various experiments and biological modifications.

>>38708081
Uhh, if the number offends you i can tone it down!
>>38708100
???>>38708121
All of them! I don't wanna go grimdark sorry.
>>38708179
Ok i will check once i get a moment, thanks!
>>38708188
Ok, so can prayers and rituals be instructions?
Is fertility ok for /hag/?
>>38708204
We have 90% girls as children, so getting married and starting a family is hard competition, therefore hag mercenaries out and about everywhere. Those also would have mixed children that don't have that high of a fertility
>>38708222
NO!!!!

Crap. I picked the nsfw version of that image.
Farewell cruel world.

>>38708423
Then you have yourself a deal about buying them, what will you pay in? It doesn't matter, money works. Pleasure doing business.

>>38708318
ya, but the stuff before it was designed to be as simple as possible. what was it that comfyanon said? the overview was first, then a brief description for people who were just interested enough to want to know what it was but not how it really worked, and then the real autism for people who wanted to make things as detailed as possible.
>>38708423
we could benefit from exchanging slaves.
>>38708457
you can delete it fast. save yourself, /meat/bro!

>>38708436
Number isn't a problem, and I think you now see why I was asking to tone it a bit since you don't want to be india or pakistan kek.

>>38708243
That is a tough logic, but looks can be deceiving!
>>38708263
Wait who does? I am losing the overview a bit, help!
>>38708270
That is what i mean!!! Not all hags find a partner, marriage is a tough battle in hag!

>>38708482
I am interested, what kinds do you have? We have numberfags, risuners, kobokeks and warkopfags.

>>38708537
Founder posts yellow lumi

>>38708436
>90% females
>compete hard to get married and start a family
>possibility of 30 kids
h-hot

>>38708496
Not really? Also, having lots of offspring in foreign lands makes it so no one wants to attack us because you do not want to hurt the homeland of your mothers and wives!

>>38708537
so, the average hag having ~15 kids with the average hag who gets married having a lot more and those who dont get married having none (sadly) would make it work i think

>>38708625
The best choice for hags is widowers imo.

>>38708459
We have exotic goods from being tropical. They can be traded for in the same value as the slaves.
From our seas, we have chuubanite coral and sea cucumbers.
From our jungles, we have timber such as teak.
Spices like nutmeg, sandalwood, cinnamon.
Tons of fruits like cocoa, coffee, mango, sapote, salak, avocado, whatever you want.
And finally, ryona resources.
Pic related but human/kemonomimi/chumbud/elf/any sentient species sourced.
Human gall. Human leather. Elven blood fertiliser. Chumbud carapace. Risuner fur. You name it.

>>38708586
Ok!
>>38708592
Muhahaha, our Nation is the perfect paradise! Forsake cunny, embrace and be embraced by hags!

>>38708709
Risuner fur is something we can get ourselves quite well kek, but I think that the fruits would do just fine and probably some spices.

>>38708763
You forget
>90% female
>Children
>30 kids
/uoh/'s natural friend is you.

>>38708625
Aight. We've got a couple of companies interested. The "Match & Ships Co." and the "Groomhags Co." are both working on an initiative to find wives for men and to figure out matchmaking in the Serene Republic. I think /hag/ would make a perfect partner for this purpose, and vice versa the companies would be a great help for more hags to find their lovers in the sexual marketplace!

>>38708551
depends on a lot of time-dependent factors.

>>38708765
We will kill all of you fuckers.

>>38708901
Such as? I am not sure we really need slaves since I can just pluck them from our neighbors easy.
>>38708904
hehe, well well. Never going to happen.

>>38708672
??? But that makes no sense for our thread.

>>38708940
We'll see about that. We have half the world as our friends, and we will kill every last one you fuckers for enslaving us and skinning us.

>>38708796
NO! /uoh/ is the enemy!!! They are anti-hag by nature!
>>38708863
That sounds great!!! What is the Serene Republic? We shall supply you with lots of mercenaries!

>>38708904
Just wanted to let you know I yelled at a squirrel on my run and it scrambled away like a bitch. Thought it was noteworthy.

Also, do you really need to write all these details for all the things written? Because i don't think i can do that and i'm not sure i fit here if that is the case...

>>38708940
we have many rituals involving transubstantiation, so depending on which rituals we are performing, and involving who, we might need completely different slaves fitting completely different criteria. with that said, if you don't need slaves, it might not matter as much to think about what kinds of slaves we would want to sell to you guys.

>>38709018
>what is the Serene Republic
https://youtu.be/J47ENHSomc8?t=44

>>38709053
No you can just get some of the other autist specialist to do it for yoh if you like but you need to be coy about it so they dont realize you're manipulating them.

>>38709056
As far as rituals are concern, we really need slaves that are of the corpo pantheon.
Kobokeks are definitely needed.
And Moonafic, would you be willing to send some of your undesirables here? Prisoners, extreme criminals, schizos, and rogue mages. We've made a similar deal with /inf/. We'd be willing to subsidise your travels too.

>>38709013
Treerrat, you can be friends with the whole world and we would still win because you guys are tribals that shit in the woods and talk about sex 24/7. If others want to get involved for your sake, they can fuck around and find out.
>>38709048
Accurate representation of the Risuner Army in battle.
>>38709056
Hmm, all we need is slaves that listen, don't complain and pick cotton. Our slaves tend to do that well.

>>38709053
Nah. Read the first line in the OP rules.
Basic dumb shitposty greentext lore is also accepted.
The examples you saw are from our giga-autists.

>>38709059
Ah, the old game thread? A lot of our goddesses play old games, i am sure we can be good friends then!!! Welcome to the list of costumers: https://rentry.org/nazxa

>>38709202
Oh no. That's /retro/
Serene Republic is the ultra capitalist thread

>>38709143
Yes, I can agree to those terms since it pays and those losers aren't needed.
>>38709053
No, you are fine! I shitpost with my lore all the time and it doesn't need to be perfect. Be the best /hag/ writer you can with your own skills which are great!

>>38709164
Just wait till we get our friends in mep, meat, morig, and infinity to clean you fuckers out.

>>38709107
Ok, thanks, having all these questions and stuff thrown at me was a bit intimidating so i was a bit at a lost and thought i might be unwelcome if i cannot do as asked.
>>38709184
>>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
???

>>38709276
Will repeat this again, they can fuck around and find out if they wish. Pic related.

>>38709018
Nasfaqg, we trade a lot, and love economic liberty. A slightly outdated lore doc in the archives. Think Venice, mixed with victorian england aesthetics, and taken to a slight extreme.
We have no great need for mercenaries, although those would be useful too. We are much more interested in the hags themselves. Many a hardworking young man are lacking wives and this is a demand we just cannot leave under-supplied!
>>38709059
kek

>>38709221
Oh, ok, changed it!

>>38709304
Second. Kek. The rules keep being shifted around.
>>38709235
Excellent. Here's our list of resources. We have others that are not written here;
https://rentry.org/deiphagymining

Good news, /meat/bros. We will soon have a steady supply of Moonafics for our altars!

>>38709348
You're a fucking idiot. Morig has the best fleet, Infinity the best tech, Meat the best magic, and mep is your neighbor. You are fucking around and finding out.

And moonafic anon, rest assured that the viking raids on your western ports and human trafficking in your nation will 'mysteriously' cease soon.

>>38709490
Well between you and me, they were quite unsuccessful for the vikings so that works just fine for me. We already have to deal with warkop, kobokeks and watamelons so our tactics are quite refined at beating them off.
>>38709448
Don't care. Message remains the same.

>>38709354
Well most hags that travel abroad are mercenaries since it is the best job to show off and find a potential husband! They will settle down if married however! If you want hags that are not warriors you would have to send people over for a marriage interview.

>>38709579
>our tactics are quite refined at beating them off.
what were your tactics?

>>38709608
I am not a milautist enough to tell you other than we deal with raiders a lot so we understand how to fight them if that makes sense to you. Not all are the same, but when you fight all kinds of them, it makes sense to me that the raids would not be as effective as on other nations.

Deadbeats and Meatheads, we are going to free our brothers in Moon, are you fuckers going to help?

Also if understand this right then we just need a lot of the magic rocks at our holy sites to have the curse work is that correct? Since no one seemed to object i shall make the curse on /meat/ canon then! >>38648593 /hag/ lore:
https://rentry.org/qubun

>>38709798
Risu is not a centralised nation.
So even if a modern tribe or two would do it, the ones at the centre do not give a damn.

>>38709877
>Since no one seemed to object i shall make the curse on /meat/ canon then
Daawwww thats cute. Real shit, would a curse work on the most ritual heavy culture that does deicide sacrifices?

>>38709895
I am sure we would all join in for this cause though, and already know the meatbois are the best warriors for this job.

>>38709598
Let us then establish matchmaking offices! The tentative wive and the tentative husband both take part in marriage interviews and the companies help them figure out the perfect partners for each other! Perhaps pair would start out with trading written love letters before they would meet up in either nation, or perhaps in a chosen honeymoon destination, in the hopes of them hitting it off and marrying. The companies can take care of carrying the letters and then uniting the pair, as long as they are properly compensated for doing so by either or both members of the pair, whichever works the best for them!

of course, hag mercenaries are also welcomed.

That's a troll, not OGsuner.

>>38709974
>I am sure we would all join in for this cause though
OG... youre doing the equivalent of the Children's Crusade
Also look back at history, none of the nations who got their people enslaved were willing to declare war on a more organized neighbour

>>38709877
>>38709964
The ritual and the curse being placed is something that /hag/ friend has the rights to do. However, whether it has any effect would have to be approved by both him and /meat/.

>>38710039
I know it is alicesama, but I enjoy the bants regardless.

>>38709964
I don't know... i thought i hashed out something cool with this but i guess it is weaksauce compared to what you guys write...
>>38710008
That sounds lovely and romantic, you have my full support for this!

>>38710042
Who would willingly be enslaved though? That shit makes no sense and i am sure when 100 of our bois land on their soil we will start a massive revolt.

>>38710063
I dont mind the curse being placed. Im just wondering if such a curse would have any effect when /meat/ does esoteric shit on a grand scale
>>38710109
Dumbass you're not getting my reply. No one is willing to be enslaved. but would you take the risk of counter attacking a much stronger neighbour? historically the only time major slave revolts happened (haiti, mamluks, etc) is when the slaves are the majority of the population

>>38710109
Your people in our lands are perfect slaves. We treat them well, give them nuts, and thanks to the sub species lore, which I did my reps on when I started to think of this, are very adaptable to this type of life. They will reject your shitty tribal ways in favor of a picking cotton.

>>38710095
Amazing, love to do business with ya!
May many a man find their hag and many a hag find their husbands!

>>38710190
Yes, of course we would. Look how we operate as a nation and it makes sense.
>>38710213
wtf?

>>38709699
refined tactics makes sense, but that wouldn't give you a one-size-fits-all solution to everything.
>>38709877
>>38710190
the curse probably wouldn't work from a magic sense without some changes as it is right now, and desu, i doubt it would have much of an effect on /meat/ even if it worked entirely as intended. it ultimately depends on how it works, but if it's region based, all they need to do is birth children outside of /meat/, and if it's population based, all they need to do is raid other regions. also, is it a permanent curse?
>>38710109
/meat/ likes slavery, but we also cut our dicks in half, so i guess that makes sense.

>>38710284
naturally, I would assume we would be flexible to threats because of that. Just like this risuner threatening us with a slave revolt. You must adapt to your enemy, and since each of our raiders are different, I think we would have such ideas in place. One raid could tell us much about how things operate for example.

>>38710254
>Look how we operate as a nation and it makes sense
A bunch of disconnected personalistic tribes who rejected unification under an emperor and had to resorted to a confederacy where each tribal clan is allowed to say no to whatever their neighbor clan thinks?
In that case no lmao. A bunch of rational tribes would find your idea suicidal and opt out to focus on farming, craftsmanship, and generally improve their lives.
Risu isnt some unified organized communal society to manage a big counter invasion

>>38710344
Nigger, you know damn well the slaves would rise since they would remember their homes well.

>>38710213
>thanks to the sub species lore, which I did my reps on when I started to think of this, are very adaptable to this type of life
Okay thats fucking sus... if you know, you know

>>38710394
Commodus would say no, but you fucking bet the rest of the nation will go into this shit since our nation isn't fucking rational. Our whole thing is showing up randomly on foreign shores, who says this wouldn't be the same?

>>38710483
>but you fucking bet the rest of the nation will go into this shit
No. You fucking bet that the tribes living comfortably in the center of Risu dont give a shit since theyre not affected at all. Especially the smartasses in the infinity protectorate

>>38710284
Ehh it was supposed too work based on like ancient bloodline. It is not permanent, it works as long as the bearers are alive and supply the cursed flame with their blood. If we stop giving the flame blood thenn the curse can be ended sooner. It is intended to lessen your women and force you to accept hags into your nation as potential wives. What would need to change for it to work?

>>38710441
Wtf do you mean? I have said this before. It literally says "Whatever explanation is true, her blessing had not just provided us with an abundant harvest and an overabundance of trees, but they also made our people incredibly adaptive over the course of our lives." I can read and do my reps on other lore before I write shit.

Hey Risutard falseflagger. Question for ya.
Have the tribes of africa ever declared war on Mali for endlaving them?
Have the slavs and greeks ever declared war on Ottoman for enslaving them?
Have the chinese ever declared war on the mongols and gokturks for enslaving them?
People dont just declare war because a couple hundreds were enslaved. Do your history reps

>>38710538
Bullshit, Risuners hate slavery probably as much as deadbeats. We absolutely would do this shit and the smartasses would be leading it too since they know the most.

>>38710650
In that case why havent you declared on meat for raiding and enslaving your people back before they made friends with kronies?

>>38710644
I love him, its more than a few hundred though.

>>38710690
Meat has helped us, unlike Moon, they taught us how to mine bog iron and shit.

>>38710728
Retard ass read my question properly
BEFORE they made friends with Kronies
BEFORE they apologized and helped you
ALSO by being a bunch of disconnected tribes, the ones who live outside of the kronie protectorate STILL do not know that meat have stopped antagonize them

Because if you are concerned about Risu lore, the most obvious target of your counter slavery crusade would be meat first. since there are tribes who still believes that meat is still raiding and enslaving them. not moon JUST BECAUSE their rep said so.
DEADASS retard bitch nigga

>>38710773
Nigger, why wouldn't we know? All of Risu hates the Sanalites, so of course we would know about what the meatbois did. The Kronies would have helped us with that too, and meat is far away compare to moon.

>>38710843
>Nigger, why wouldn't we know
Retard youre a bunch of disconnected tribes. this isnt the modern era where you have phones and wifi. youre in the rural forests. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE AMAZON WHO STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT BRAZIL IS

The fuck's going on here?

>>38710909
No idea but im enjoying it nora

For the record, we don't "skin" risuners. I said we would have no problems get them if we wished. This trollsuner is a funny man, though. I am enjoying it.

>>38711019
Trollsuner has less IQ points than both OG and Ri2ner. he deadass keeps reading my questions wrong

>>38710883
We have fucking magic. I know the hoomen have tech for mass communications so why shouldn't we?

>>38710843
>>38710883
Are you guys ok? I think you are getting a bit too heated about this? Maybe you want to cool down and come back to this later when you aren't so heated with each other? I don't think shouting at each other is fun and if you write fun stuff together you can have tons of fun!

>>38711045
Which is great, I love those two and banting with OG but this dumbass is why poking fun at the squirrels is great entertainment and informative too! I am learning a lot about lore in Risu actually hahaha.

>>38711072
Not until retardsuner understands how late medieval tribal logistics and tribalism works

>>38711109
>>38711045
I wonder where Ri2ner is

Candyman, what are your thoughts on sports in your nation? I assume jousting is your favorite sport but what others do you have?

Woah, that's a lot of posts.
>>38711072
Hello hagchad, don't worry about it, it be like that.
Our magic system can be a bit daunting, but the way it basically work is fairly instinctive once you get it. Would you like me to translate your curse into our autismspeak? That might help you see how it works in practice. It seems pretty plausible to me.

>>38711256
I miss him and warsuner. Where is OG actually?

>>38711261
Naaa I think we'd have rugby, polo, wimbledon tennis and croquet
maybe Lunaito or arcticnaito or the other lunaito knows

>>38711307
That would be very nice yes!

>>38710344
so, /meat/ raiders are supposed to be clever, resourceful, and adaptable on the battlefield. actually, adaptability is a concept that you could gain from our central concept, pretty much. if you fight against npcs with static programming, all you need to do is adapt to them once and you'll be able to make them "quite unsuccessful", so one raid could tell you much about how things operate because you know they are never going to change. very few people in the real world would be able to survive at all if they were that much of an npc, /meat/ especially. just because you get raided from all sides doesn't mean you become a master at utterly denying any raid attempt, even if you've never seen it before, or don't have the resources necessary to counter it, just look at poland. furthermore, /meat/ is pretty good at raiding, so the quality of raiders is also a factor.
>>38710548
what i mean by how does it work, i mean how does it physically work, from a chuubanite/conceptual realm sort of perspective. how does decreasing the number of women force us to accept hags into our nation? keep in mind the fact that we already have hags in our pantheon, and that we can just impregnate slaves. it just seems a bit like the ability isn't all that well thought out. also, trying to keep track of 3 threads, irl stuff, and this comment while i am tired is difficult, i guess. especially when one of the threads is being pumped with all of this retardation.

>>38711256
she(he?) has a job irl and said they often get worn out from orders

>>38711404
wait how many candy asses do we even have?!

>>38711426
Well, some would succeed but I never said they would be totally unsuccessful. It is more of a question of if we are a worthwhile target for you guys and dont think we are.

>>38711474
Theyre just Lunaito's tulpa

>>38711474
One and his many tulpas.

>>38711404
Too many candymen! But nice to hear.
>No jousting
Heresy!

>>38711498
i don't think /meat/ would half-ass anything. if we raided you guys, we had something in mind to gain from it. failure would have either made up try harder or find a new approach entirely.

>>38711636
Yes, but you cannot say that every raid would succeed either. I just think raiding other nations would make more sense than us considering that our west is sparsely populated anyways

>>38711636
>>38711659
also according to meatbro's raiding lore, the spies would have chosen where and when to raid to make sure the authorities are occupied. unless moon's inquisitors were able to sniff out cult activity there's no other way to perfectly counter a raid

>>38711716
>No way to perfectly counter a raid
So it is impossible to stop? Now that doesn't seem fair to me at all. It is no better than if I said no raid would succeed.

>>38711474
i have one as my shota concubine. his ass is so soft and he's now testicle pregnant with our third child

>>38711830
you can. theyre meticulous, not mary sue immortal. you just need proper organization to counter their cult intel. such as having soldiers and navies hidden from cult knowledge. also counter intel activity to disrupt their network

>>38711659
>>38711716
i never said it would, all i said was that it wouldn't be "quite unsuccessful" and that one raid would not be enough to figure everything out. it tends towards an even fight, not a one-sided battle for either side.
>>38711830
perfection is impossible, therefore success is impossible, therefore it is unfair. let's stop interacting with the schizo, i think their stupidity and irrational cynicism is rubbing off on the rest of us, it's certainly making it harder for me to focus.

Imo the best way to stop a meat raid is to keep an eye on nobles assigned to coastal settlements. Meat raids are not random. Cultists will groom their cities into raid cattle for planned attacks. Find suspected cultists, kill them, plant fake intel.

>>38711426
It wouldn't force you directly at all, this is all about suggestion and subterfuge, muhahaha you are not even realizing what suggestive thing are happening in the shadows, it would just curse your people to have less and less children and more and more of those be male. So to safe your population you would want woman as fertile as possible, hags! We are not trying to change your beliefs either, we want you to like our mortal hags! I feel like you are overthinking this, it was just meant as plain and simple fun. But sorry if this is a burden on you, please feel free to dismiss this if it bothers you. I am not a writer or smart, so i probably come off as a retard by default in here. I will delete this then if it is not up to standard.

>>38711426
pg, sleep

>>38711913
This just seems overly complex to me to ever write (if i wanted too.) with honestly so I will just say V7 prevents this with their excellent abilities that we use. Like how am i supposed to figure out some of this?
>>38711963
That was a schizo? Well damn me, yes. Moving on!

>>38711425
Alright, so first you need to know that besides Vitubia, the physical realm, there is a heavenly/conceptual realm (also called the Vitium Field). This Heavenly Realm (HR) is where the gods are, among other things, and this is where the energy used in all our magic comes from.
Then, we have chuubanite. Think of chuubanite as particles that form a bridge between Vitubia and the HR, and allow the energy to move from one to the other. Chuubanite can also have a certain type/affinity. For example, you might have Mio, Koyori, Lui chuubanite as variants of the /hag/ chuubanite. Good so far?

So, your five places of strongest magick would be sites with high chuubanite. The grand table of divination has high Mio chuubanite, and so on and so forth.

Then, you burn 666 children (kino). Now, the task is to form a logical link between the children you burn in chuubanitic locations in your home, and a reduction in fertility in /meat/. This is where the HR and glyphs come in handy.

Glyphs are basically one way to do complicated magic. Think of them as a programming language. The curse is quite complex, so I think a glyph would be involved at some stage. You could draw it with the blood, or with the ashes, either works as long as you add chuubanite to it.

Action at a distance is possible through the HR, though difficult. So here is a way I would see this working. The curse summarizes the concept of the Matiyotl population, and the glyph instructs the Heavenly Realm to apply the curse to the population that matches this concept. The easiest way for the Heavenly Realm to affect humans is probably through their minds, as divinations, so perhaps it could be a psychological phenomenon that results in a reduction of the people's libido, and some mild psychoactive hormonal manipulation to increase the odds of bearing males.

So, now you've got a curse that works, congratulations! The final task is to basically tune it so that it's compatible with existing lore.
>>38711999
Ehh don't be daunted! PG is nice, he's just a bit scary when you're used to it. I'm sure there's a way to make this work. Making a second post for the tuning part.

>>38712069
>when you're not* used to it
kek

>>38712047
Hiring V7 is a good idea. Meat may have a good cult network but their main concept is not espionage. Thats V7. Let them handle the cloak and dagger business.
>>38712069
>>38711999
PG is the 'methodical by the book' type. He wont hate you and your lore as long as theyre consistent and doesnt rely on asspulls.

>>38712172
It's nice they are friendly neighbors! Perfect business for us!

/hag/ mercenary sounds neat but I don’t know if /vnug/ needs mercenaries at the moment despite its low population. They would be handy about a century ago though

What the fuck happened while I was at work...

V7's most sought out service after polotical espionage is definitely Meat inquisition. Clean up house for any cultists in your court and their raid-trafficking network

>>38712305
Trollsuner wanted to hijack your role as rep

>>38712305
Trollsuner played pretend.

>>38711999
>it would just curse your people to have less and less children and more and more of those be male. So to safe your population you would want woman as fertile as possible, hags!
ya, that's what i thought your idea was, and that was what i meant when i said it seemed poorly thought out. with that said, all you need to do it figure out a way to work out the kinks.
>>38712069
this is what i mean.
>>38712172
>by the book
this is correct, if i seem intimidating, please don't take it personally. i have been trying to work on how i present myself in this thread since i came here, i suck at communication so i need some help with it sometimes.
>>38712045
picrel?

pg is the asian parent of lore writing kek

>>38712069
I think i get the gist of it but not really. But we cannot affect their wombs directly? If we reduce their libido then we risk them not wanting to breed hags either!
>>38712277
Having hag mercenaries around is never bad i give my word! Not sure about time stuff.
>>38712322
Does V7 wanna work together with the housewife network?

>>38712593
Ok! I will try to remember that!

>>38712767
>If we reduce their libido then we risk them not wanting to breed hags either!
you could theoretically induce a fetish if you can make the population less sexual. but we already like hags, so it doesn't make too much sense on us.

>>38712767
Zetabro isn't here right now.

OI ZETABRO, ANSWER THIS NEW WRITER!

>>38712767
Liora is borderline hag so I guess us liking hags would be logical In lore we were kinda fighting against the other part of /kr/ about a century ago and the aforementioned low population would make outside help very valuable

>>38712593
>i have been trying to work on how i present myself in this thread since i came here
you have really. compared to when you first join, you opened up to helping other non-meat writing. youre still difficult to understand for newfags but your helpfulness and spirit counters that

>>38712859
>you opened up to helping other non-meat writing
hey wait, i was making suggestions for other people before as well. though when we were really focusing on our lore, i put more focus in our own thread, naturally. i have been making suggestions for others since before nuefag got his trip.

>>38712767
>But we cannot affect their wombs directly
/meat/'s magic would counter that. their magical properties accelerate life cycle so their wombs would still be active. maybe youd have a nice synthesis where both magic cooperate. accelerate womb cycle until they barren

>>38712965
trip as in the code, not before he took a trip to wherever he went to assuming he isn't secretly still here, as founder suspected.

>>38713012
Nuefag still being around is my nightmare.

>>38713052
Nuefag is OGsuner

>>38712277
/hag/ does also have Valkyries, so they'd fit right in back then maybe.
>>38712767
>But we cannot affect their wombs directly? If we reduce their libido then we risk them not wanting to breed hags either!
Oh, I made the assumption that a hag's superior sex appeal would be able to revive any man's breeding instincts. But you can affect the womb too! It should just be done through the Heavenly Realm->Divination->Psychological effect pipeline. Thankfully, psychology is very powerful. Perhaps the right combination of psychological inputs would be able to induce menstrual suppression, reducing the frequency of the women's windows of fertility? That would also circumvent >>38712982, since the womb would still be healthy and active, it's just not able to go through the menstruation cycle as often.
If you want direct physical magical effects, you would need the people afflicted to be in direct contact with your chuubanite, which would require more elaborate logistics.

Why are you autists treating magic like it's some over the top complex engineering system? Just conjure a spell and forget about it

>>38713276
Gate keeping

>>38713101
I don’t think they’re exactly the same but I assume someone with a similar disposition as Liora would be reasonably popular in /vnug/ by the nature of things. Given that palkyries and elves are kinda light in weight and fragile respectively though, I think having someone who can use heavy armor effectively would be useful in open combat

ALRIGHT YOU FUCKING NIGGERS WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING HERE!

>>38712829
Mu, this is hard...
>>38712832
I will try to remember to ask him if he is around!
>>38712855
I am sorry but i don't know your goddess at all! We are happy to supply hag mercenaries if asked however! Do you want in? As i said, i am not sure about stuff in the past and how and if i can interact with that.
>>38712965
Are you a tsundere?
>>38712982
Ohh... we shall burn through their eggs in acceleration!

>>38713325
This but unironically

>>38713382
Don’t worry about that! I know we’re just another small corpo at the end of the day
I would love to be friends with you, I just don’t know how to work that in given that most things we fight nowadays are monhun monsters

>>38713374
Come watch Kokone draw her secret gift to Lofi!

>>38713374
larpsuner and the rest of us are having a conversation

>>38713101
>I made the assumption that a hag's superior sex appeal would be able to revive any man's breeding instincts.
I see you too are a man of culture. Could i interest you in some mercenaries of your own? Also that idea also sounds good, what is better, to burn through eggs or to only give them minutes of windows of fertility? I think the second works better with our goals?
>>38713366
Yes, we got plenty of thick warriors in the strongest of armors, wide hips too for excellent child bearing hips!

>>38713499
Ohh, i see the making of a great hag! Is she cake yet?

>>38713382
>Mu, this is hard...
be creative. our system is adaptable enough to let you do theoretically anything, but you need to be willing to think about it in the right way. this is why i suggest people spend some time really thinking about the core concept (not just an idea, but the distilled, most essential element of the whole idea) of their thread before they start thinking about the rest of it. figure out what you want to be able to do, and then figure out ways to make it possible.
>Are you a tsundere?
wdym? i would have figured i would be closer to a kuudere, or maybe a yandere when i /meat/post. i should be trying to go to bed soon, btw.

>>38713276
Same reason why milautists treat army compositions and battles like they are some overly complex strategy games, and why spec bio autists treat creatures like they are some overly complex evolutionary mumbojumbo. because its fun.
>>38713325
>>38713392
the explanations are out there and freely provided

>>38713692
Heh, I believe /morig/ us already in the list of "Nations compromised by /hag/".
I think magically speaking, the second makes more sense for the curse. The accelerated life cycle is a /meat/ chuubanite effect, so trying to use that might counter-fire, since you're less accustomed to using it than them. The second is something that could be done with the curse more straightforwardly.

Now granted, even if the curse goes through without a hitch, I think it would be more interesting if there is a pathway for some counter-measures. Perhaps the curse only affects strongly people closely related to the 666 children, and the effect is lessened as you get farther from them in the family tree. This would make the curse devastating on a smaller population (Which may be what the ritual was designed for initially?), but not existentially dangerous for a large nation like /meat/. This way, they'd have some incentive to look into fertility-increasing strategies (like hag-importing), but it's not like, the genophage kek (hmm Matiyotl share some similarities with Krogans, huh).

Some other ideas for counter-measures:
/meat/ priests might be able to detect a curse has been created through divination
They may be able to create a fertility ritual to compensate for the barrenness ritual, probably making use of their chuubanite
They may be able to deconstruct the curse

Or it could be a combination of all of the above, where some hags are welcomed in when it's noticed birthrates are unusually low in some places, and then the priests detect the curse and they begin to work to undo it, maybe there could be a quick story about how the /hag/ and /meat/ priests are battling in the Heavenly Realm with a sequence of curses and counter-curses, could be fun. Fun is the most important part! Do let me know if my autism is being unfun.
>>38713374
We're talking hags.

>>38713889
The core of our thread is easy! Appreciate hags! That is the most important and purest form of our thread!
You seem to have a rough and tough exterior that seems off putting, but you are actually a sweet, nice and lovely person behind that from what everyone says!

>>38713692
It’s kinda funny that the /vnug/ natives that have wide-seeming hips happen to be the ones with trouble giving birth due to their digitigrade locomotion

>>38713762
That’s the thread’s guess based on things she said on streams. It’s safe to say that her highschool years are in the 00s

>>38713947
Here is a difference. Milautism plays no factor in how the world functions while specbio and chuubanite absolutely do. No milautist can crucify you for not being complex, same isnt true about chuubanite and or spec bio where you must explain in detail why something works or it will not be approved.

>>38714301
oh the milautists absolutely hold ideas hostage, and wont approve of your stuff unless it makes perfect sense to them.

Kokone is so FUCKING SEXY

>>38714433
Give one example of this being true amd it shall be the first. Uncomparable.

>>38714051
OH! DEADBEAT! Sorry, not used to people yet...
You are already compromised by the Housewife Network muhahaha
I don't want to destroy their nation!!! I just want them to open up to our hags! The moment they stop being enemies we would lift the curse! Until then it is fertility war!

>>38714301
the chuubanite autists usually work very hard to explain to you why and how your stuff would work, rarely if ever do you get them to expect you to explain ti all by yourself.

>>38714578
Here is the issue, not everyone wants to go through an hour of discussion to get one thing to work.

>>38714650
then simply
dont

>>38714251
Ohh, this could make for a great joint research!!! We could find ways to help your people breed!

>>38714673
Nah, think people should not have to have a degree in physics to implement something. A sentence saying it works because of a simple reason is enough.

>>38714500
>risu timeloops
>whatever the fuck went down above with moonafic and paragraphs
>risu timeloops
>anything that goes "you cant have that non-tech advantage because some frenchman had not come up with it by the year 1800s"
>risu timeloops (in this very thread)

>>38714650

>>38714742
Have you even read the chuubanite doc? That is literally what it says.

>>38714747
>none of those are at all milautism and actually tech autism.
Didnt know pg was a milautist

>>38714818
if it is milautism it is milautism

>>38714798
Yeah, i have, which is why I am pointing this out that no one should have to actually explain shit beyond what i said.

>>38714742
Yea that simple reason is chuubanite physics

>>38714710
The idea’s that their pelvis is actually narrower than average human female due to their adaptation, just that it is usually obfuscated by their thick thighs due to the same adaptation. It might also lead to longer pregnancy since the pelvis would take more time to widen for birth. Ultimately the result’s that elves in /vnug/ have a low birth rate which is used to explain an above-average maternity instinct independent of culture

>>38714871
and they do not have to for most cases. Our hag friend here is trying to introduce a very complex and new idea to the scene. This deserves to be discussed.

>>38714524
Ohh nice, saving that Lui...
You know, /meat/ has a ministry of magic. Maybe the outcome of the fertility war is a rapprochement between the magic-users of both nations. I mean, the KTF would surely be interested in any sacrifice-powered curses, they'd probably give you some props for that. But that would be up to a meathead.
https://rentry.org/meat-KTF

>arguing semantics
Just write, niggers.

>>38714105
that is a good concept to work with, but if you want, you can use symbolism to find a concept that more completely describes your thread. for example, /meat/ is a guro/ryona vtuber thread, so it would be easy for us to say our concept is death and suffering and what not, but our thread culture doesn't fit that as much. our concept is something that exists in many cultures, but that we refer to as the life cycle. birth, suffering, death, and rebirth. each step of the cycle exemplified a different aspect or stage of the same core idea, and has a more complex meaning behind it than it initially seems.
our thread has always had to go through that cycle, but we were able to find enjoyment from it, and so have our chuubas. this common ground of being able to survive with optimism even when life constantly throws hurdles our way is a large aspect of (my interpretation of) our culture, so it was only natural to base our concept off of it. as a result, the thread about suffering and death has some of the friendliest, most lively culture out of the majority of other threads you would expect to find here. speaking about /meat/ suffering, we have been dealing with this for a while i suppose but since you just made the fertility curse thing canon, and since you are a bit new, i might as well introduce you to the superstition of this thread. /meat/ is currently suffering from a disunion of our posters. we used to have ~40 posters per thread, now we are having a hard time keeping 6 around. it's due to our inability to find our other anons after all the bans on /vt/, and the fact that we can't seem to grow our population, ie, fertility rates are down. beware meme magic.

I think you skimmed over a common sense... WHY IS HAG PUTTING A CURSE OVER MEAT?
Because so far the interaction that brought to it is meta between writers. Not in universe. /meat/ havent even properly interacted with hag yet.

>>38715394
I assume it would be a reflection of the Matiyotl rebuking a proposal for some kind of diplomatic deal from the /hag/ nation. Conceptualize, anon.

>>38715394
Tbf, it is common sense that someone did it considering jannies.

>>38714914
Maybe through special exercises and massages, acupuncture and more stuff like that, it can help widen the pelvis?
>>38714983
I mostly tried to make feel important and mystic and not just cheap or an asspull as someone said above.
>>38715035
I don't understand a single word in that link!!!
>>38715089
NOOOOO!!! Don't die! See you need hags more than ever!!!
But our thread simply loves hags, we appreciate the experience they have garnered in life, the maturity they bring to the table and simply value them a lot, muddling this core love with overreaching on my part would be unjust to my thread!

>>38715562
its good, i dont think we have had curses discussed before. Discussion helps us break new ground on the magic system and then the next guy who wants to do curses will have an easier time.

>>38715658
According to my lore intro, all of ID1 is under a curse thanks to their goddesses

>>38715562
I don’t know if exercise and massage would help since the pelvis widening’s caused by its otherwise fixed joints expanding in preparation for childbirth. Maybe acupuncture and other medical processes can help with that?

>>38715562
it's just that /meat/ threads kept getting nuked by jannies. most of the posters were turned off and lost enthusiasm. only the regulars have been trying to keep it alive. they used to be very active before the janny menhera phase. around 80 ip and lots of fanfics
now it's barely a thread and only bumps

>>38715562
>I don't understand a single word in that link!!!
Yeah, me neither! Isn't conlang amazing? Kek. The informative parts are probably the bits of text below the org chart. Basically it's just Magic NASA, or something like that.

>>38715562
a little detail gives things alot of life, plus it gets the thread's blood moving so its not just rentry lore posts followed by a series of bumps. I'm gonna enjoy seeing how /hag/ shapes up with all this

>>38704132
That was pretty great, would have liked if Lucrezia pissed herself when Louis screamed, but besides that, nice chapter.

>>38715562
Hello! I don't think I've had the opportunity to welcome you to the thread yet. I'm the rep for /wg/, your neighbor from across the sea. Our general has its fair share of hagchads, so I'm sure we can have plenty of international relations in trade and other pursuits. As you can probably guess, Writhaven is a big exporter of literature of all kinds, and we would be more than happy to export our fine works to your nation.
Also, https://rentry.org/qubun
>the forbidden library of lost knowledge
Our scholars would be very interested in exploring this holy site, if you would allow us to of course.

>>38715951
Ty, well she likely did but i didnt want to make it lewd.>>38702573
>>38701057
Ty, happy you are enjoying it :)

>>38715734
Well to see its effects you would let hags in and let them do joint research, maybe we can use magic rocks to make special needles that help stimulate body growth for bigger pelvises? Do glyphs work for that deadbeat and pg?
>>38715752
That is sad, they nuked us once too but then quickly stopped since hag is strong and fearsome! I hope you will be daijoubu one day!
>>38715780
Well i am sure we could work together if they open up to our hags!
>>38715806
Don't expect much! I just write what comes to mind mostly at a spur!

>>38716033
Alicesama, you have let me and all ringo chads down. Fix it now!

>>38715562
>we appreciate the experience they have garnered in life, the maturity they bring to the table and simply value them a lot, muddling this core love with overreaching on my part would be unjust to my thread!
or it might do it justice. i would have asked why you loved hags if you had simply stopped at the first part, but you already gave a good explanation. the core concept behind your love of hags it their wisdom. base your system around the wisdom of the experienced, and that might bring you a step closer to the core concept of your system. if you have a lot of magic, or if your elderly are dominant, explain it with a culture that ties to how much knowledge they were able to accrue in their years. obviously, this is likely imperfect, and i can't diagnose your thread's core concept, but if you use that kind of mindset to figure out what the deepest values your culture has are, you can get closer to the core concept, instead of merely a closely associated concept.

>>38716127
We’re definitely open to that! I don’t know if it would lead to an actual population boom since other factors like food supply might be a bigger limiter, but anything that can ease childbirth will be much appreciated

>>38716033
Alicesama, you disappoint me and all ringo chads!! You must change it now as it is canon for us.

>>38716287
Sounds like vnugbois need to engage in more SEX to have a bigger population

>>38716365
High birth rate and low food production are not a good combination

>>38716127
>Well to see its effects you would let hags in and let them do joint research, maybe we can use magic rocks to make special needles that help stimulate body growth for bigger pelvises? Do glyphs work for that deadbeat and pg?
I think bone-shaping surgery is possible, /meat/ already does something like that! It is probably a bit painful. An expertise /hag/ would also have is in sub-optimal births. /hag/ midwives are probably among the best in the world, since they're helping all those near-menopause women through it. They might have techniques and insights to share to increase the likelihood of success.

>>38716128
>>38716306
Fine you horny jerk. You are worse than OG!!!!

>>38716438
>Risuners have lots of food and lots of people to fuck
I smell an alliance

>>38716127
>That is sad, they nuked us once too but then quickly stopped since hag is strong and fearsome! I hope you will be daijoubu one day!
we have been getting nuked practically from day one, it is part of our culture, but it has also been part of our culture to survive. the problem is that we mishandled the most recent surge of bannings and had only a few threads every couple of days or so for a while. our old posters are disoriented and have lost enthusiasm because of our inactivity. i am fairly sure that if we get their attention back, we can mitigate the problem, but idk where they went. we need stability to get them back, but we don't have enough anons to keep taking hits from jannies who ban us for "off-topic" posts like a list of recent vtuber streams, so we need to focus on general growth right now, but that means taking potentially destabilizing risks. if we had a bit of help, it might resolve some of the problem, but idk how to do it properly.

>>38716493
>>38716438
>Ignore the squirrels, they have no way of providing you with food. Play with the KAG and you will have all the food you need. (think we have a deal already but we make a ton of food)

>>38715966
Hello, I see we will get along! If you need hag mercenaries to protect your literature exports we are happy to supply.
>Our scholars would be very interested in exploring this holy site, if you would allow us to of course.
Of course! But the library only is open to those that are willing to share knowledge and forbidden to those that only seek to gain without giving!!! But with all your books i am sure you will find the place most inviting!

>>38716446
uuuuu Alice sama, I re read it and noice....

>>38716548
Bateman strikes again!

>>38709059
>I am Honk
>And I am here to ask you a question
>Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
>"NO!" says the man in /Infinity/, it belongs to the state!
>"NO!" says the man in /Risu/, it belongs to the goddess!
>"NO!" says the man in /Towa/, it belongs to us all!
>I rejected those answers. Instead I chose something different.
>I chose the impossible!
>I chose...
>/nasfaqg/!

>>38716493
>>38716548
/vnug/ is looking for food import but at the same time it’s also a state policy not to import too much food from one single source lest any single group gets too much influence over /vnug/ affairs. I think /vnug/ will be importing food from both of you in addition to other countries

you fucks are lucky my pizza arrived. Anyway ill start doing other shit once im done. brb you fucks. Reminder that vugboi is sexy, kokone is sexy, and I want to have intimate sex with both of them.

>>38716855
Kek yeah right I was supposed to get 2x divvies why is it 1.5x? Where's my sweat Honk!!!

>>38716131
Well, this is hard and maybe i need to think about this more!
>>38716287
>>38716440
I was not thinking about surgery but more like have children undergo regular treatment as they grow to help develop the bodies for bigger pelvises as they grow. But we absolutely will help you with giving birth! Being a good midwife is basic training each hag goes through as part of proper bridal training! We can also bring food if you need more, friends help each other! You want in on the list? https://rentry.org/nazxa
>>38716530
Well if you have hag goddesses then why not share them with /hag/? we are not just a holo thread!

>>38716863
Problem is Risu has no merchant fleet to import.

>>38716863
>>38717021
Guess who happen to sit in the middle and are very willing to do shipping`?

>>38717088
>Me actually.

>>38717116
Its me

>>38717012
Depends on what you mean by compromised… but yes we would love to cooperate!
Regular treatment sounds kinda expensive so I think it would be more available to the upper class? I guess they would also be more concerned about having offspring as well

>>38717021
just repurpose the expedition ships desu. We would probably want their MAGICS anyway.

>>38716624
>If you need hag mercenaries to protect your literature exports we are happy to supply.
Bodyguards to protect our wares and keep our sailors company on long voyages would be more than welcomed!
>But the library only is open to those that are willing to share knowledge and forbidden to those that only seek to gain without giving!!
That certainly won't be an issue for us then! Disseminating knowledge is one of our core tenets after all. I look forward to our people being able to participate in this informational exchange.
We also have a premier translation company if you are ever in need of interpreters on your international ventures. https://rentry.org/tfas8 Babel is always interested in opening offices in new lands to spread their services far and wide!

>>38717301
>pinsis
>for mass food transport
OG...

>>38717398
It’s a euphemism isn’t it

>>38717012
>Well if you have hag goddesses then why not share them with /hag/? we are not just a holo thread!
one of my personal favorite /meat/ hags, awa, is a famous guro mangaka. very influential and fun for people who are into watching someone impressive draw a hag cat getting gutted, but maybe not as interesting for people who don't want to see said hag depicted in such a predicament. maybe you can ask the thread for recommendations. we have one in /trash/ at the moment, the op image is not the kind of image we typically use, in fact we don't typically post any kind of guro outside of /trash/, but if you and the jannies are ok with it, i can link it. the thread is about to die anyway.

>>38717449
Yes.

Baker, ready? In case the thread gets insta nuked by the /trash/ link kek.

>>38717301
Hire our ships and crews for that. Or sell the food to us and let us sell it to /vnug/. We probably buy food from /risu/ to our own needs as well.

>>38717206
You will become infected by the housewife network! That means you have people whose wife and mothers are hags and thus make your nation less likely to become unfriendly with us since you do not want to hurt the homeland of your mother or wife right? Also means we get all kinds of juicy info through gossip around the whole world!
>Regular treatment sounds kinda expensive
??? Why would it??? This is to help fellow future mothers!!! As long as your nation pays the resources needed, which should not be much i guess? Our hags will help you gladly no matter the standing! You hire our mercenaries and they do as you say! And if they marry your husbands then they will most likely become your citizens!
>>38717310
Sure! i will add you to the list of customers too! I have not thought about so complex stuff, but you can always open offices in our lands, it sounds super helpful!
https://rentry.org/nazxa