/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

They are a different company from the company that I watch

need more JP women

>>38682875
i supported them adamantly until my oshi announced having a bf and ridiculed her goslings publicly

Veibae's a cunt and Froot cheated on her husband

>>38682960
this

>>38682875
Kinda like how Redditors love Pewdiepie and hate literally anyone else. It's the same mentality.

>>38682875
The only one I truly hate is zentreya because of that ludicrous TTS shit. I quite like mouse

>>38682875
/vt/ hates them so they're good in my book

>>38682982
second is false
first is true

>>38682875
From left to right
Tranny, whore, loli whore, traitor whore, cancer whore, cheating whore, stupid whore, whore

>>38682875
They got their flaws but so does everybody. I do have a potential hatred for Mouse that I'll let out if it turns out she was playing up her condition.

>>38683017
Redditors think he's a Nazi since his heated gamer moment

>>38683017
Hello Anon, how is 2008? When you make it to this decade, let us know.

>>38682875
They threw Nux (mind you the same guy who helped them gain traction before VShojo was a thing) under the bus to protect their image. The only cool ones are Froot and Ironmouse. Everyone else are narcissists.

Cuz they funnel money to the CIA

>>38682875
Let's see, going in order of that pic:
>tranny
>number 1 rancid whore in all of vtubing who hates her fanbase
>WOKE cunt NTR experience who streams with her boyfriend
>camwhore
>c*nnor fellator who fakes an illness for pity bucks
>whore
>audience of cucks (talks about fucking guys on stream while being incredibly parasocial / GFE)
>extremely obnoxious and doesnt stream anyways
Also 90% of their content is react streams, which is bottom of the barrel low effort shit.

>>38683795
>They threw Nux (mind you the same guy who helped them gain traction before VShojo was a thing) under the bus to protect their image.
OP ask you why you hate them not why they deserve the presidential medal of freedom.

>>38682875
>zen
I don't hate him despite his posture about jan 6, he has the right for his own opinion but it can't be helped, there are people on the other side that have lost their job because of this stupid cultural war, can't blame them for being hostile towards anyone who supports the other side, this is why keeping neutrality is important.
>vei
I do hate her, I was neutral towards them until she gave her opinion on the Aloe situation, she committed first blood so don't complain about what came after that.
>nyan
I didn't hate her despite this board being butt blasted about her past, that was until she began to do all that ntr and fucked over some of her fans/gachis, I kinda hate her now for that.
>mel
Is the only one I respect.
>mouse
Don't hate her but don't like her neither
>froot
Hating her because of her past doesn't feel right to me, the reasoning being that we shouldn't have that information in the first place, it's like trying to introduce stolen evidence into a court case, doesn't feel right. Excluding that she seems decent.
>who
Who?
>who
Who?

>>38682875
Twitch v-thot with anime avatar. No hate, just nothing special.

Not hololive
TPBP
/thread

>>38683795
>The only cool ones are Froot and Ironmouse

>>38682875
Some guy in /jp/hlgg/ two years ago told me to unconditionally hate vshojo and all non-hololive western vtubers and so I did.

Unironically because I think they're ruining vtubing. Though if they just stayed on twitch and didn't collab with the real vtubers I would care about them a lot less.

>>38683795
>the same guy who helped them gain traction before VShojo was a thing
What kind of retarded revisionism is this?

>>38682875
Over the last year or so I slowly started watching them after becoming disenchanted with HoloEN (who seem to have drifted apart a lot) and I pretty much only watch them and Nijisanji now. So it flipped for me, used to hate them but now I love them. And they can do any kind of content without having to worry about some weird archaic jap company ready to send assassins after them.

If they replaced Hime with someone who actually streams, and I'm sorry but Silvervale as well since she's kinda boring, they would be perfect.

Everytime I see someone post Silvervale I just can't get over how fucking ugly she is. All of vshojo is ugly but she REALLY stands out as that one freak with the hideous avatar that looks like it came from VRChat or second life.

Love them Especially when they collab with hololive and nijisanji. Seeing the idol purists go schizo is pretty entertaining

>>38683649
>>38683704
>Haven't been to r/pewdiepiesubmissions

>>38682875
Is this from some game?

>>38682875
I was psyops by vt to hate them.

>>38683795
>mind you the same guy who helped them gain traction before VShojo was a thing
lmfao stop inventing shit to defend your jew

>>38684377
Even if they did that they'd still influence the indies into being low tier garbage whores like them, which would only poison the talent pool for the agencies people care about. They're a cancer no matter what they do.

>>38684482
The model she used for her 2D debut was fantastic and she actually looked really good. the colors were more muted and not so vrchat-ish. But yeah the original model which is the one the official art is based on (I think) sucks aside from the expressiveness of it. I don't MIND the vshojo designs, they're all kinda supposed to be over-designed, it's just the style but she was at 100% while everyone else was 50.

Hime's design is an abomination though. Awful through and through, and I like the person behind it.

>>38682875
They are everything wrong with the West and just slutty twitch females with avatars. There's a tranny, a porn star, and a catgirl who perpetually shits on her audience. Why would I ever tune into that?

They somehow get out whored by nijisanji now. Used to watch nyan but slowly moved to mousey, i think most of them have either stopped of lessened the sexual jokes

From left to right
>among other things, TTS is fucking insufferable when in a collab
>literal whore that shit talks other corpos
>the original traitor
>camwhore in the worst possible way
>RM info and PL shit
>/k/ waiting on their patches
>Somewhat decent
>Literally never ever around

>>38684084
>that was until she began to do all that ntr and fucked over some of her fans/gachis, I kinda hate her now for that.
im glad our voice was heard at least, lots of revisionists keep trying to bury that entire history

Whores and they mostly do lazy reaction content

>>38684708
>TTS is fucking insufferable*

Other girls pretend to be whores for views. Vshojo actually are whores and will tell you all about it.

>>38684698
>>38684677
>>38684377
Cope

The embodiment of "flesh streamer using an anime avatar." Not really into it.

>>38684754
most of the antis ITT hit the mark somewhat but you clearly have zero clue what you're talking about

>>38683795
Jews have no place in vtubing.

>>38684756

Don't get the people that hate Zen that much for being a guy, you don't hear him, he's doing a gimmick character. What does it matter who the person behind the TTS is?

>>38684735
Maybe I'm the only person that feels this way but I like that they have this option. I wish to god I could watch Ame or someone laugh at tiktoks.

Because they give too many (You)s to faggots like (You)

I like the tungsten rat and the toaster and that's about it.

>>38684844
Once in awhile is fine but it's all they do.

>>38684764
You mean AVTubers? You have a good taste sir.

>>38684734
I don't watch watch Nyan what happened?

>>38682875
Nyanners mostly
Anyone willing to work with her is automatically a shitty person.

>>38685034
Give me your main source of contention with her without using the word loli

>>38685065
retard

>>38685088
Stellar response

>>38685034
Isn’t mouse the nicest person in vtubing

I just don't care for their content, and I really don't like using twitch. they also have some really annoying personalities.

people should just respect the decision if you enjoy a certain chuuba.

Cover and anycolor are fine with them so I don’t see the point in wasting my time hating on them

I don't really hate any of them but I also now most of their content isn't for me. I think my oshi likes a couple of them and has openly expressed a desire to collab with them someday. The Nyanners collab at least had it's fun moments. Mouse seems like she would have a fun collab with her as well but I hope it stops there.

>>38685156
Idk she lies about how she was 1 year away from dying for like 6 years and hides the fact that she had a kid from her audience.
She's probably not that great.
Plus she works with Nyanners and Vei willingly

>>38685291
>Idk she lies
nta and not defending her but
vtubers are literally nothing but lies

>>38685291
>Idk she lies about how she was 1 year away
in your head? source next thread?
She never said she was dying. Anons may have said it to fuck with you, but she's always been clear that it isn't a terminal illness, and she prefers not to talk about it that much either (except for when she has to take meds midstream) or even jokes about it

>>38685291
The latter thing is completely understandable

>>38685034
kiara...

>>38685640
1. Kiara is ESL
2. Kiara is a BIT retarded
3. Kiara only collabed with her she doesnt REALLY work with her
4. Kiara clearly did it to make fun of Nyanners dead family and make her depressed which worked because Kiara is actually the smartest person alive besides Gawr "Lex Luthor" Gura

>>38682875
The fact that they all kow-towed to a faggot called nux after failing to cancel him

>>38682875
I just hate whores and unfunny women, simple as

>>38683936
>Rabih Tobay
>Rabi
>Rabbi
Hmmmm

>>38682875
>faggot SJW pretending to be a dragon that doesn't even speak
>obnoxious cunt that never shuts up about the bodily fluids she ingests/ejects
>hypocritical retard
>Melody is ok
>dying retarded slut
>literally who
>massive slut
>literally who
>kson is a clout chasing retard
>Karubi who just joined is generic tehe uwu twitch grrrrrrl streamer
1/10 is not a good ratio of quality

>>38686211
Seethe

>>38682875
Unprofessional, gross coomer behavior, pushing woke politics and group made up of down right horrible people.

>>38682875
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that one of them just got knocked up and is getting married because of it? There is no GFE in vshojo so its a hard pass from me

I like two of them. The others are just bad streamers or text to speech robots

>>38685034
This but those who are friends with her.
You are who your friends are.

>>38684932
Nothing. Some retards went parasocial for her even though she explicitly made it clear nothing of that sort was ever intended by any of her streams. So they panicked and have been anti-ing her ever since she got a BF. They then try to act like she was always GFE to make her look worse.

>>38684482
What's so bad about it

>>38684553
You’re right anon, I don’t think either of those people have been to pewdiepie’s subreddit.

>>38687189
That was apparently a troll post.

>>38685156
That would be Haruka, the new member. Mouse is too Latina to be the nicest.

>>38687359
Right on schedule revisionist-kun, I knew I could count on you
Let's memoryhole the vrchat viewer date streams!

>>38687524
lol I recognize this post. The guy who keeps calling the VR Chat streams date streams. Fun fact: They were always designated as field trips or adventures, not dates. Veibae does VR Chat date streams, Nyan never called them that.

>>38682875
>american women

>>38682875
too many instances of THAT voice in one company
disingenuous insistence they are not corpos
their "talent freedom" marketing campaign smacked of self superiority and smugness

>>38685034
Yes, actually. Something is really fucked up about Nyanners and her presence actually ruins all of VShoujo. I have tried to be her fan even before vtubing and she just snaps at her audience every 3 years, filtering people, then cries she has haters.

>>38682875
>Looking for honest answers.
Move along. This is /vt/, we don't post those here.

>>38682875
The same reason Amy Schumer isn't entertaining for talking about her vagina for no reason at all.

And let's be honest here. They pander to preteen and younger teens. They literally only exist to give minors boners. And something about that just makes me uncomfortable.

>>38687592
I recognized you disingenuous ass too.
watch the fucking streams you talk about you faggot

>>38687788
post in threads about vtubers you've watched only please

>>38687800
I've watched plenty of her streams anon-kun. I know what I'm talking about.

They welcomed Rushia with open arms right after she proved to be a security risk.

>>38687895
that also is a bad look in general

>>38687592
god nyanfags are insufferable

>>38687833
I watched them. I gave them a shot. They are just gross.

>>38687854
i love it when you try to tell me that an entire year of my life apparently didn't happen. the gfe date streams, the gfe daily discord updates for supporters, the gfe small streams on her alt channel where we could talk with her one on one, all gone. just fucking kill yourself.

> So why do you guys hate them?

I don’t hate them. In fact I like all of them.

>>38688031
then leave

They are just Twitch streamers with an anime avatar instead of a cam.

>>38688076
Make me

>>38682875
i dont touch twitch

>>38688118
yeah that's what vtubers are

>>38688118
no one tell him where corpo chubas are from

Because they're basic bitches who barely play any interesting games even though they have the freedom to play literally anything.

>>38688323
and by that logic you shouldn't call anyone holier than thou when melody straight up streamed on chaturbate.

>>38688410
one day a vshojo girl will play a touhou game
my autism shall will it into existence

>>38685127
stream Stellar Stellar by Hoshimachi Suisei of HololiveJP

>>38688553
Or you could just find a vtuber who actually likes video games and already played touhou.

>>38688598
Touhou fans don't actually like video games

>>38688631
true I just play touhou over and over
>>38688598
oh I have, no one plays it often though apart from super unknown indies

>>38682875
In general, I don't hate people and I certainly don't hate this group; they just act like people I would dislike IRL. Vei especially. She is openly a bitch, which I appreciate so I can ignore her and her willing associates.

>>38683936
There's nothing to suggest anything of the sort or anything untoward.

Besides, even if it were true, it would be based. Get fucked commie.

>>38682875
react streams

>>38682875
I don’t know. I’m indifferent to them.

>>38689222
Useful idiot.

At first I had no real issues, but around the time of the Nux drama (yes nux is a massive faggot I know I fucking get it but thays irrelevant to this) is when I started to dislike them. Seeing how hard they threw a guy under the bus to cover their own asses because their company was completely incompetent in being on top of a phishing scam just really soured my mood. Doesn't help that they acted completely fucking childishly over the whole thing even after proof was submitted that the company had no issues with the video documenting everything before it was even posted.

>>38688631
That’s not entirely true. I like all sorts of shmups, fighting games, RPGs and FPS games. I guess I’m not the kind of fan you’re alluding to since I haven’t read any doujins or anything

>>38683936
>Indonesia link is purple
you can't make this shit up

>>38682875
WHORES

>>38682875
because being explicitly gross is off-putting. it's fine to be lewd or gross but at least try and be subtle about it.

>>38689350
>proof
oh come the fuck on anon, you're not that retarded
I don't support them either but you can read the actual conversation in context at least

>>38689315
I don't give a fuck if the CIA fucks the world up: that's their fucking job.

>>38689402
another for the "never watched" pile
again there's a lot of good criticism you can give to vshojo, but you're way off

>>38689454
I guess you got a point there

>>38689430
Nigger at any point in a FOUR HOUR conversation they could have said "no". The faggot that wrote the damage control blogpost also lied out of his ass about key details so no context is really gonna help them look good.

>>38682875
It’s really impressive when an entire company is composed of such cunts that you can list actual reasons to dislike all of them.

>>38689488
Yes, but it's off topic. Let's talk about vtubers instead.

>>38689504
It would probably help if you looked at the actual stuff instead of getting your information from incredibly wrong /vt/ summaries based on how you describe it

>>38689471
you really need to stop posting here nyanners

>>38689520
Vei and Froot are the only ones I can say are genuinely reprehensible people. The rest are just annoying but holy shit those two can burn in hell.

>>38689562
You forgot pink cat.

>>38689222
>supporting glownigs and glownig created conflicts
Kill yourself mutt leftoid, you will never be white or right wing.

>>38682875
>ruined the EN vtubing scene on twitch
>will talk shit about other companies and people then never acknowledge they did it
>it’s a company founded by a whore, for whores
>basically just a high school clique in vtuber form

>>38689559
>vshojo staff member gets caught in lie in the blog post condemning the retard Nux
>completely scrub the paragraph and delete the post positively responding to the video talking about the doxers
You getting paid for this? Nothing makes Vshojo look good in this. Sure Nux is a dramafaggot retard but I'm sure as shit gonna side with him over the company sitting on their hands instead of doing anything to alert indies about an ongoing phishing scam

>>38689599
Nah Pink Cat hasn't done anything that bad has she? Vei and Froot did some genuinely vile shit. The worst Nyanners did was burn bridges with her /a/ audience unless she did something new.

>>38689562
They are the worst part of the company easily but when the rest of the members defend every shitty thing they do then they can fuck off as well

>>38689671
what a retard, is this some advanced reverse psychology to make me like vshojo? Nux faggots get the rope

>>38689697
She abandoned her cats after her new boy toy moved in apparently. Not as bad as either of those two though. She just manages to be incredibly obnoxious

>>38682875
There was a time when they and their fans were convinced that their shitty no-standards style of whore-chuubing was going to become the dominant form of chuubing in the west, that made them the enemy of anyone that liked the hololive style of chuubing being dominant. That time has passed as vshoujo is pretty irrelevant now and nijiEN has grown into a middle ground between the two, but the defensive rejection of Vshitshow remains.

>>38689671
There was 1 thing that was wrong, a timeframe stated as something like half an hour, that was in reality 4 hours. But the mistake happened because the text in the image from Nux said he would upload it in about half an hour, and it was only if you actually looked at the timestamps would you notice the time was longer. That was the big change that people pretended was an earth-shattering revelation.
And they only made the statement supporting Nux in the first place because they had to. Nux was using the opportunity to cast doubt on VShojo as a Western org in order to promote his own upcoming vtuber company. If they didn't say that they were aware of the video then things would look bad for them. once the truth of the matter came out they rescinded it because he never had their approval in the first place. Nevermind that they also told him not to turn the situation into content in the first place because doing so could interfere with the ongoing investigation, and he did so anyway. It's not that hard to understand.

>>38689722
>being this desperate to damage control for a company that can't do the most basic shit every other company in the world can do
Shill.

>>38689722
NTA but just letting scammers target small indies pretending to be your company after finding out about it and doing nothing is genuine scum behaviour.

>>38689872
that basically sums up how Vshojo operates

>>38689776
>That was the big change that people pretended was an earth-shattering revelation.
Because it turns their argument of "Oh he blindsided us we had no choice but to let it happen" into a load of shit when both an actual staff member and fucking Mel herself were both there going over the video with him.
>And they only made the statement supporting Nux in the first place because they had to.
So did they "have" to ghost an indie that got doxed by the scam and delete an entire paragraph in their blog post after information that was released contradicted the statement that was later deleted?
>because doing so could interfere with the ongoing investigation
What fucking investigation? They knew fully well what the fuck was going on for MONTHS before this shit video was even published. Even then companies have an obligation to alert potential victims about this shit the moment they become aware of it.
>Nux was using the opportunity to cast doubt on VShojo as a Western org in order to promote his own upcoming vtuber company.
Yeah I'm sure some dramafag is gonna let himself get doxed for a marketing stunt.

>>38682875
Too much freedom that they fucking announce their marriage and pregnancy online.
I honestly don't care much about these stuff but they might as well be flesstubers then, they're giving vtubers a bad name.

>>38689773
And the fact that they talk shit about other companies and talents makes me wanna stay away from them.
And do they not realize that they get money from gachis? who tf announces that they have a bf, married, pregnant. I personally don't care about it but holy shit, do it outside your vtuber account.

>>38690091
Mel was not there. She set up the discussion, but she wasn't involved. She had a Patreon meetup scheduled at the same time and she said as much later.
They didn't "ghost" the indie. She said herself that she was so distraught over the experience she failed to realize that they had actually responded to her a month prior.
They did notify the potential victims, because there was only 2. That was confirmed after they got the domain and could see what e-mails were sent out from it and only the 1 girl and Nux were targeted. Investigations don't get resolved overnight.
He didn't get himself doxed, it was his unnecessary turning it into content that was the marketing stunt. Especially when none of his info about supposedly identifying and having the guy arrested was correct, and the guy even made a video after the fact mocking him.

>>38690108
The pregnancy and marriage thing isn’t real. It was a donation goal they would troll post if they got a certain amount of money donated. These charity streams rich streamers like them do is the real scum shit. 7 figure losers who manipulate people to donate for “a good cause” to
some dogshit charity the streamers can then use for their tax purposes

>>38690224
>Mel was not there. She set up the discussion, but she wasn't involved
Bull fucking shit, so instead of just exchanging contact info she drags them both into a discord call and fucks off for four hours?

>>38690276
Unironically yes. You know how Discord works don't you? She had everyone who was going to be involved in the call on her friends list, so she set it up then left to go do that. She even had the Patreon meetup on her schedule for that week and people who were present for it confirmed she was there. Nux threw her under the bus by claiming she was more involved than she actually was since she didn't say a single thing after the first minute for the entire 4 hours.

>>38682875
because >pic related isn't canon

>>38690224
>The youtube videos
I think they're unlisted now but lol. The doxers reupped his video after he took it down because everyone was mad at him on the same account that they used to trick him. The one on the right is the guy he claimed to have gotten arrested making fun of him after the fact.

>>38682875
I suppose it's just me being an elitist, and I might be wrong since I'm not exactly immersed in their individual lores, but it feels like the majority of them just don't have any sort of...I don't know how to put it, awareness of the culture they just cannonballed into? If you peeled away the avatars most of them are indistinguishable from your average female twitch streamer in terms of behaviour, they rub shoulders with other normal twitch streamers and barely ever interact with JP chuubas outside of the big ones that it'd be profitable to talk to, and I doubt they know or care to learn about the history of vtubing before it boomed in the west. I don't hate them as people, but I don't respect them as vtubers, since they just feel like bandwagoners hopping into this hobby now that it's exploded so they can make a quick buck.

>>38687788
Enough about nijisanji we're talking about vshojo here

>>38690738
Ironmouse and Zentreya have both been vtubing since 2017.

>>38690779
I have heard that ironmouse was into it for a while, which was why I said most but not all. Could believe it about zentreya too, since I'd assume they're just a dude larping as a female. What about the others?

>>38690859
Nyanners has a long history of using avatars and such, but she doesn’t really give a shit about like ironmouse does. None of them except her and maybe zen when he’s not lying I’m articles of course x)

>>38690859
Silver and Vei were streaming camless since like 2017, and both started vtubing in early 2020
Nyan was the same, but she had a very brief cam period that lasted for like 4 streams total across her 6 or so years of streaming.
Mel was basically the first truly huge name for western vtubers in the west and is an unironic trailblazer in that regard. Haruka, who just joined, started streaming around the same time, though was a small name at the time.
Only Froot and Hime in the original group did little streaming before becoming vtubers in late 2021 and early 2022 respectively.

>>38690996
*late 2020 and early 2021 I meant. Froot debuted when VShojo was formed in November 2 years ago, and Hime debuted like 4 months later.

>>38682875
Threw Nux under the bus.

>>38689222
>glownig spacing

>>38682875
I hate all those whores except for Nyanners. Nyanners' humiliation fetish is her saving grace

>>38682875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1TEaFsAM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1TEaFsAM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1TEaFsAM8
I notice the video keeps getting deleted and the reuploads get fewer and fewer views as if she doesn't want people to see it

>>38682875
I liked them better back in the pre-VShojo days when they streamed together because they were friends and not because they shared some arbitrary branding. All of the girls were fans of each other if not outright simps, and now it feels like they hardly associate with one another.

>>38682875
I dont even watch them