/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'm sorry nijisisters that you get 12 new members and all 12 suck dick, sometimes literally

No, fuck you. The new gen being shit doesn't mean the last gen wasn't also shit. In fact Niji hasn't hired a decent EN chuuba since Selen.

>>38676247
Circus soleil has a legit Japanese esl hag and a big titty gyaru so nah, Iluna lost, HARD.

>no western whore
I KNEEL

Fuck no, soleil is nothing outstanding but is better than that garbage

>>38676247
soleil better in every way, nothing to see in Iluna except Maria and Ren's songs

>Zaion took Melocos body
>Meloco took Zaion's body
A simple fix and their energies are more aligned

I didn't think it could get worse than ILuna
oh it can, and it did

>>38676247
Yeah they should apologize for being so shit that it lowered the interest in soleil

>>38676247
Still 3views

>>38676247
no, you apologize

>Ren was really hoping and counting on piggybacking his RM contacts
>Aster realized too late the gayboi niche has been packed full
>Scarle is now aware the disjointing of mommy model to derpy personality = 3view
>Aia learning how debuting with politics and SJW mindset is gasoline doused thermite on top of a pit of tannerite
The only winners are Kyo and Maria, with 1 basically just sticking to his guns about who he is (and having Enna turn into a complete cock-holster slut for him like the Mika/Mysta shenanigans), and the other keeping the kayfabe on because, like Rosemi and Petra, she's actually just the soft spoken and easily entertained

>>38676247
I will watch Meloco. I am never watching Iluna.
I'll never apologize.

>>38676247
>3 good girls and Ver, who is inoffensive
This was a massive improvement over Iluna

>>38677732
None of the girls were good

>>38678057
It's ok to be gay

>>38678057
This post reeks of homo

>>38677401
Holy recline

>>38678148
>>38678190
Thanks for proving my point. You only like them so you can fap to their models. You don't give a shit about their personality because they don't have any

>>38678566
Oh so you're a delusional kind of gay. That's fine too.

>>38678966
>No argument

>>38679014
Yes your "argument" came from blind assuming. Please post a real one first.

>>38676373
Based

>>38679165
You confirmed my assumption by being a coombrain.

>>38679495
>No argument

>>38677618
It's a shame, I love scarle and aia's models

>>38676447
Sometimes the schizo flip/Mexicana can be fun.

>>38677401
Thats how much iLuna killed the hype. People were DYING for a new wave and iLuna fumbled it HARD.

>>38677401
Holy smoke. Iluna literally killed the whole Niji brand simply by being shit. Blindly debuting too many people was a mistake

>>38676247
>two shit gens in a row
sasuga anycolor

>>38679646
What?

>>38677401
I can't believe nijisanji debuted a wave that's so shit it actually removed value from the brand

>>38679533
>no u!
Concession accepted

>>38679716
>>38679771
>>38679837
What pathetic cope is this? Are ESLs just mad that no one cares about their wave so they're trying to deflect blame?

>>38679646
Scarle? Yeah she's the exception she's fucking cute would wife.

>>38679927
Retard.

>>38677130
>>38679814

>>38676362
first post, best post.

>>38676247
(Student) Council didn't do as well as expected

>>38676247
Maria is good. None of xsoleil except maybe Ver is passable. Zaion had potential but GENSHIN EVERY WEEK LMAO

>Debut 6 new members
>barely makes a dent in the board speed despite sticky, sticky so slow it honestly didn't even need to be there, random karaokes can get the board more hyped
>debut CCVs all like 30% lower than ilulna
>everyone bored/disappointed with the debuts

They accelerated straight down a cliff god damn. I can see why Cover waits so long to debut new Holo members, it really-is possible to just exhaust peoples' excitement by making new members a really ordinary thing.

I guess the best hope is that some of them actually have some kind of really-entertaining bits or skills or gameplay etc but only time will tell. Albeit, they won't have much of that time to show off something new/different before getting written off as being Iluna's Noctyx, as if that was even fucking possible.

>>38676373
Delusional fagoon

>>38677401
>WALL MARIA WAS NOT BREACHED

>>38676247
I barely remember two of their names. And I mostly remember Scarle because I masturbate to porn of her and think her kitchen cooking set up was based. I won't apologize but they are seemingly less shit than the even more forgettable members they just launched. Maybe both groups will redeem themselves.

>>38680842
Fulgur was right all along...I kneel

>>38680842
Fuuchan I kneel. The prophet of NijiEN

>>38680842
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>38680842

>>38680842
>>38681333
Brother

>>38680852
It's the same as video games. The quality of the previous games matter a lot for the amount of sales the sequels get.
iLuna's really dogshit that it tanked interest in NijiEN overall and caused people to not be interested in the new wave. If this wave is an improvement and features passionate talents, then NijiEN's next debut will do a lot better. However if they fail, then those numbers will drop harder.

>>38680842
Holofag here, they're a student council? What about Iluna?

>>38677401
Jesus, that is just too many people in too short a time. How do any of them stand a chance to grow?

>>38681718
Theatre kids

>>38676247
I'm sorry. Thank you for killing NijiEN.

>>38676247
didn't bother with either of their debuts. Scarle is cute though and kyo is a funny wigger. Newest wave seemed un remarkable but I'll wait for further confirmation.

>>38679927
Are you a fucking retard? Shit like this happens all the time, or do you think Devil May Cry 2 out performing the first game and selling like hot cakes while the 3rd game sold far less is indicative of those games actual quality? Not saying new wave is any good mind you.

Isn't it a bit strange or odd that they keep getting people with the same exact interest and tastes? Is there a reason for that? Do you have to mention you like Genshin Impact, Pokemon, and APEX to get hired as a vtuber?

>>38682062
Yes. Pomu mentioned she put Apex on her application.

>>38682062
It's redundancy. They deliberately have them compete like battle royal for views.

>>38676247
Eh, Iluna being a flop causing the newest gen also flop is already a well established fact at this point, but, hey, maybe one of Ilulna is your oshi so, defend them all you want, I guess...

>>38682062
They want them to be interested in things that are popular.

>>38676247
>Apologize
no

>>38681718
For the story, ILuna were Institute of Mystics students and XSoleil are student council members. I don't know if they all go to the same school or not.

Never. Fuck Iluna.
Hex is sex and mogs every single member of that failed wave

>>38683650
stop thinking with your vagina sis it's not healthy

>>38683729
Don't care. I enjoy thinking exclusively with my vagina and I refuse to stop

>>38683769
YWNBAW

>>38684281
If I'm never gonna be a woman than how can I start or stop thinking with a vagina that according to you I don't have?

>>38680842
BASED KING 130+ IQ CHAD

Iluna bad
XSoleil bad

>>38680842
This fatass killed his own growth. He was right after Luxiem, with Luxiem's audience drooling for more, and he just fumbled the ball because he wanted a small audience despite being in the best company for males at the best time. He would know about "not doing as well as expected." Such a weirdo faggot I will never understand.

>>38685042
Fulgur is uber-based, he just doesn't give a shit about numbers. He wants to have good streams and a good fanbase.

I was at work when the debuts happened. I'm only interested in the gyaru, give it to me straight, how shit is she?

>30,000
>Get this

>>38686000
She likes Apex.

>>38686000
there's no gyaru in xsolel what are you talking about?

>>38686000
My disappointment was immeasurable and my day is ruined.

>>38686123
Better than vwhorjo's
>45k applicants
Only to choose 1 orbiter

>>38685042
deliberately stunting your growth for good quality streams > shit streams but big number
based

>>38686000
Gyarus don't exist

>>38677618
>Aia debuting with politics and SJW mindset
It really is astounding how autistic anons here will just misinterpret something and run with their delusions no matter what. This is almost as bad as rushiafags still saying she was fired because of the discord message.

>>38678566
>men
>caring about a woman's personality
>caring about anything besides tits
RUMAO don't kid yourself, you are a fag

>>38676247
Not using female VAs for Kyo and Aster was a sin of biblical level.

>>38685042
Numberfag detected, stop projecting your retarded numberfaggotry onto people who want nothing to do with that brain rotting garbage.

>>38689660
Only a terminally online retarded twitter roastie would think it’s a good idea to include politics in any manner in their Vtubing debut. Even if it was just a bullet point.

>>38676247
I'm sorry for calling you clowns, because they're the entire fucking circus.

>>38676247
not our problem lolisex is leagues ahead of iluna

just hoped they never put Maria in Iluna tho

Iluna:
-Risotto:
Hey nerds, I am totally otaku hehe yeah, and I like music. Owl city is totally my jam. I stick to my lore because I have no personality but at least I make music.
Kyo:
Yo das crazy, I actually know how to banter and have fun like I don't give a fuck. Who cares about vtubing when you can have fun. Bitch.
Aster:
Hey guuuys ^^ i am a bit shy and also some nonbinary fluid gender or smth idk. UwU please be gentle.
Maria:
hewwo I am very cute, or as we weebs like to call it, I am very kawaii. Please pick me as your oshi. I have no other personality whatsoever. Please....?
Aia:
I take myself to serious and have a stick up my butt. I try to pander to my audience now, but white people don't get me. I really should have become a doctor like my parents told me...
Scarle:
Heyyo twitter, I am mamacita with big booba. You like mama's booba? Well actually I like to play this BL game rn and I really want to watch some bishonen get raped in the anus. This is what you guys want, when watching a sexy vtuber, right!?

Why did they flop?

>>38677401
unrelated, but when is Doppio gonna go Dopio like JoJo part 5

>>38691062
saved

>>38676247
Scarle is good

>>38693216
lol good one

>>38676247
no

>>38679927
stop living in denial anon

>>38677401
Ren was 80k not 90

>>38689704
Then why are you on /vt/ instead of /s/. Quit coping

>>38679774
>five shit gens in a row
FTFY

>>38679646
>Scarle is what would have happened if I actually stuck with my high school gf

>>38676247
My wife Aia

>>38682062
Imo it's not a coincidence at all. They hire people with interests they can easily sell to a broad audience, but are also proven and tested by others before.

What really irks me with this sort of mindset is that the big agencies don't see any necessity to change their current modus operandi as long it "works" and brings in the revenue they plan with. Especially the two big jap corpos are at fault for it, more so Niji in recent times, as it feels they just copy paste spam talents that should all have some individuality, and yet feel like they grab their interest tags from the same bucket. I can't tell if this is just complacency or generally a Japanese conservative business approach to stick with what's known and works for them. My gut feeling is telling me it stems from the latter, but I sadly don't have any hardproof for this. I wish there was an additional factor that would push cover and anykara for more innovation and break the stagnation, but no idea how this realistically could happen.

>>38676373
spbp

>>38702944
Why would you say you like <niche game> instead of <popular game>
It doesn't make any sense

>>38677618
>>38689660
Qrd on Aia?

>>38686000
Do you like Apex/Valorant?
Then she's the girl for you.

>>38705204
During her debut presenting her likes and dislike she had a really long paragraph about now she likes discussing deep topics like politics and sexuality which may be a joke since previous points are really short sentences and next one is just mayonnaise and people though she was a SJW or something like that but people that watch her say that she is really bad delivering jokes and later she tried and failed to push different gigs and she is amateur at streaming
For some she is mediocre but going "political" is a sin for most

>>38676362
FPBP

>>38676247
Which group is hotter

>>38691062
Kys faggot
Scarle never sold herself as coomer bait, she was always a sistertuber.
Aia "serious discussion" was an ironic joke retards didn't get.
Retards like you never watched a single stream of theirs

>>38691062
Based of off those descriptions, I'd give Maria a chance. Maybe she'd be better off if she had debuted earlier.

>>38677130
Is that her setup?

>>38686000
There is something to work with, but she likes Apex. Hopefully she wont get to play it much, now that vtubers are starting to get over it. Enjoy your weekly overwatch collabs with dudes and twitchfags though

>>38706175
>which may be a joke
You'd have to be socially retarded or ESL as fuck to take it as anything but a joke within the context. Her problem is she's just bad at landing jokes. She tried to do a smug bully femdom gimmick at first and just couldn't manage it so she came off as a bitchy killjoy.

>>38676247
>purple tranny makes better asmr than the chuuni doll
This shit makes no sense.

>>38715512
>Scarle never sold herself as coomer bait, she was always a sistertuber
Her model sold her as coomerbait you dumbfuck. She's a 3 view exactly because she appeals to fucking nobody.

>>38702944
hey why are you bringing cover into this? All of their new debuts this year have been breaking the mold in one way or another

>>38706175
this exposes the key flaw with nijisanji's accelerate model. For most nijisanji talents, the debut is the only thing most people will see, even amongst the relatively hard core nijifans. There's just too many talents to shop around. If you fuck up or do something really stupid, that'll be what you're remembered for even if it isn't representative of your regular streams, and unfortunately "being an SJW" is what Aia has become known for

>>38676247
Maria is the only good one. I feel bad for her because she's in a generation full of degenerates and she's the only sweetheart in her group

>>38721465
Aia may be an sjw but at least she isn't a whore like maria.

>>38676247
Nah, the only one that ended up being vaguely interesting was Scarle and that's only because it turned out she was a legit otaku dweeb despite her stacy model.
The other 11 look like the most soulless milktose mass produced apex/minecraft/valorant/fotm game generic vtuber. Maybe one of the news ones will do something unique after the first week but I don't have high hopes.

>>38676362
Don't worry, we have another 6 coming in 3 months

I like Aia

>>38680852
Vesper calling his manager an incompetent monkey and getting b& for two business weeks then coming back unironically had more hype than the entirety of Niji's new wave.

I haven't been keeping up recently so when I went on .org to look at my oshis beautiful face I saw the NEW INFORMATION WANTED FOR WHO. I was like wtf again? And judging by the reaction here there's no point of even checking them out

>>38720449
>this exposes the key flaw with nijisanji's accelerate model. For most nijisanji talents, the debut is the only thing most people will see, even amongst the relatively hard core nijifans
Once again Mocca was right.

>>38676247
I didnt even know that a new gen is debuting. I just saw a YT recommendation and I was like "Wait, this is a new face. Vod a day a go?!".

>>38679774
They got 2 ASMR gayboys one hired from pornhub/patreon and one vox clone, their fans are already eating it up.
On the girl's side 2 of them are japanese which is already a blessing. The other girl is Luca but female and an annoying genshin womanchild so that's the loss.

>>38736609
>their fans are already eating it up.
and like vox they will dissapear when they play a game.

>>38677401
What numbers will a new holo EN gen get?

>>38715512
>Scarle never sold herself as coomer bait, she was always a sistertuber.
bro one of her first tweets was about her thighs, and she set a goal that if she reached 100k subs before debuting she'd reveal her (avatar's) breast size.

You walk into her streams and half of the time her model is dead cener and enlarged to fit from top to bottom of the screen so you can see her tits bouncing around.

>>38736827
It's almost like people who constantly say others dont watch streams are in fact projecting faggots.

>>38735556
I'm gonna post this for the next wave

>>38677401
Also the cunny-like female liver has the lowest debut numbers is a crime.
I hate nijifag for this reason alone.

>>38676247
no

>>38676247
no

>>38676247
Vox was a fluke. Nijisanji got too excited with the hiring spree.

>>38676247
For that?

>>38705204
https://twitter.com/AiaAmare/status/1549562808442015750

>>38715512
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1549573775674314752

>>38676247
>>38677401
Dopesmoker Dicksuck and Voxbot 2.0 are gay and boring
Gyaru is nice and has potential
Jewloli is a hag with decent powerlevel and the gacha addiction is almost balanced out by her high zatsu score
The former dullahan is about as inoffensive as it gets and dorky so he will probably do well
JP ESL is a JP ESL so she's perfect because it's literally okay when Japan does it

Compared to Iluna almost anything is better, but overall I think they did alright with this one.

>>38676247
no

>>38712237
the sun

>>38676247
No

>>38676247
No

>>38679837
ACCELERATE to the ground never was a meme

>>38677401
update, comparing their debut 2.0s

>>38676247

>>38676247
No

>>38702944
Not sure about Niji but Cover definitely bringing some creative mind. Say what you want about Laplus, but her 3D stream is definitely pretty interesting.

>>38676247
Maria a cute, but kinda dull. Don't care about Iluna beyond that.

>>38762179
Funny how harsh a decline Aster had, seeing as he was second in the line up here

>>38682062
>People like A. So you should never offer any other option. Just put all your bets on more of that.

>>38762179
Females really are second class citizens in nijisanji

>>38762179
>Zaion privated 2.0
Will never not make me laugh. What a wonderfully insane hag she is

>>38676247
They're the ones that should apologize to Xsoleil.

>>38772932
It could be much worse. The gap between Hololive and Holostars is galaxy-wide compared to the male/female gap in NijiEN.

Any parasocial leaning chuubas in Xsoleil?

>>38774284
All of them. But the standout is the gyaru.

>>38750477
Fun fact, she's not even bi. She's just a straight fujo that yuribaited predebut, then dropped it the instant it didn't work

>>38676373
This is true... for the girls. Boys tho? They're killing it.

>>38676247
no

>>38676362
yeah mine