/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3793332
They're picrews but I and others have found these useful.
https://picrew.me/image_maker/611021
https://picrew.me/image_maker/660479
https://picrew.me/image_maker/13338
https://picrew.me/image_maker/21705

>>3793270
If I were to commission my concept art off Skeb, do they own the rights, or would I be fine to continue on with my character creation?
>>3794055
Thank you

>>3794423
By default commissions on Skeb are for personal use and the artist owns the rights to it (that particular drawing, not the overall concept). But you can request commercial use for it (may require additional fees though).

>>3794423
in your request let the artist know that you're gonna use the design for vtubing, if they're not okay with it they can cancel

>>3794055
what about for full body?

hello crawfriends! a new recording is up with my old layout, old vtuber designs/model, and some other stuff here (including a thank you to this general for all the help): https://youtu.be/GTUPOUQChPI
i think it's really interesting to see how things have gradually changed with time! :}

to any other aspiring vtubers who need help with character designing, i'd be more than happy to help you! i can't offer much other than rough sketches and visual redesigning, but it would be better than nothing. i can also sell off my two older vtuber designs if anyone would want them (i'd work with you to make them not as generic of course)

on another topic, i'd like to start networking and promoting myself on reddit, but i've had very limited use of the site. would i just basically post links to my stream along with artworks on vtuber subreddits there? or is there a better way of shilling? i also thought of going on tiktok, but im too intimidated eheh...

>>3795363
I've actually been watching your test recordings, and taking notes on keeping the talking going, gotta give props where do. I would love to reach out on getting rough sketches, because putting a picture to the idea is the hardest part to me

>>3795363
Thanks for the drop shrimp, I'll check it out. As for networking on Reddit it's generally known that it's nigh impossible to get any traction from Reddit due to all the vtuber subreddit being saturated with either Hololive or other indies spamming to indies.

https://vocaroo.com/16bXLeMXHEiG
Checking to see if my voice is even tolerable before I go through the trouble and invest in a microphone and filter

>>3795363
your best bet is to network through lurking in other chats on twitch or youtube and just branching out. hanging out, chatting, following, etc. Also I'd love to help out with helping you get a better rig if you'd oblige.

>>3795737
do you have one of just you and your voice?

>>3795737
can't tell, that audio quality is pretty bad. better off investing in a better mic with maybe a filter on top of it.

>>3795363
You seem chill, I subscribed in case you ever stream to talk about your creative process again

>>3795363
I don't have experience with this stuff so I'll just keep supporting as best I can. I'll watch the video later when I have time.

>>3795805
https://vocaroo.com/18xmrUXoZTlL

hey /asp/, how long before your graduation should you announce that you are graduating?

>>3795159
Got nothing for you, I had a lot of trouble finding good outfit designs too. Mostly I pieced stuff together from boorus and games I liked the visual design of.

>>3796152
Average seems to be around 1 month going off Mint, Nova, and Miki.

I've been doing my reps and noticed something off. Specifically, I seem to be much more talkative, original, and funny when I'm in a collab or at least have someone to bounce off of. To the point where I feel like people should be telling me to shut up. Conversely, my chat isn't active enough to do that when I solo stream, which leads to a lot of awkward pauses and anxiety. Do I need to just accept I'm only funny in a group, or is this something I can grind out?

>>3796029
Honestly, the voice sounds fine.

There's a lot of tinny echoing but that's expected from an un-soundtreated room. Would recommend recording yourself in a closet and pad as much space around you with thick clothing or pillows if possible if you're just recording yourself for covers.

>>3795566
huh, i'm quite flattered! it's awesome to know that someone is using my test recordings in that way, and i wish you the best of luck in your vtubing endeavors. :}
but yeah i'd totally be down to sketch some stuff for you like pic rel. i can work with you on this thread or in private via twitter/discord, whatever works for you!
>>3795597
shirmp?!? severely offensive, but i'll let it slide since i love my /asp/ friends too much.
and i'm not surprised to hear that regarding reddit, but it's a bit disappointing. maybe i'll try my luck anyways and hope for the best with fingers crossed.
>>3795794
ahh i see. thank you for the advice, anon! i'll try to branch out in that way. and yeah, i'd be very grateful for help with rigging; though i'm getting an actual model soon (in about a month), so it might be better to wait until then?
>>3796016
thank you, i appreciate it! i will probably do a recording or stream walking through my design as well as the journey with getting a model+rigging once i cross those bridges.
>>3796021
much love and thanks, anon. every single act of support is special to me!

>>3795737
>>3796029
i think your singing is very nice and i like it a lot!

>>3796152
so it was announcement, 1 month, graduation, 1 month, then redebut right?

>>3796322
No worries. if you're interested in doing comms I can hit up your email since your twitter dms aren't open. otherwise yeah I don't mind waiting til you get an actual model and stuff.

>>3796399
oops, i didn't know that my dms weren't open. they should be now! and sadly my email has been disabled, so i can't use it until protonmail sorts my stuff out ;orz

>>3796543
don't worry about it. I'll toss one over your way probably tomorrow then, it's a bit late in my timezone.

>>3796571
sounds good. sleep well and sweet dreams, friend

>>3796322
Anon, please, you're niceness. It's too cute.

>>3796653
don't be fooled, i'm actually not that nice of a person. i used to be known as a, in simplest terms, mean girlboss haha... (but thank you ;; <3)

she can move soon ;_; soon!!!!!

>>3796621
thanks. all your stream recordings are very cute for the record. I've been sorta considering vtubing myself as a hobby and don't ever really plan to make money out of it but it'd be nice to support ones who do. I've been holding back on listening to all the recordings fully so I have stuff to listen to at work.

>>3796322
How much success have you had doing capture with a shitty cam? That's the one big thing that's stumped me so far and I don't feel nearly committed enough to tell if I wanna invest in decent equipment. Is audio-controlled capture or w/e it's called a serviceable alternative?

>>3797039
i recommend that you go for it. it's really fun and you get to meet a lot of cool people through it. also i'm also very touched that you enjoy the streams enough to listen to them during work. :,} hope they keep you comfy, anon
>>3797250
in my youtube video, i have two short clips of me tracking my face using 3tene and a logitech c920 (about $85-90), and i think it's pretty decent? audio reactive pngs are a good alternative as well, but you'll be very limited in terms of movement and expression imo

>>3794055
If VRoid is too much for you, there's a circle of very small time japanese indie vtubers that use VKatsu for their models (the worksafe version of Koikatsu Party!) It's 100% free if you wanna throw a character together real quick and see what you can come up with.

I'm not exactly sure how reliable it is, but you it also lets you export your characters to Niconico3d to use in VirtualCast for about $50 per character. I'd be surprised if they ratted you out for using the free built-in capture tool, though.

>>3796912
You're failing to convince me that this is bad.
Regardless, I wish you the best of luck.

>>3797250
nta but i'm an active chuuba with notoriously bad tracking equipment, the software you choose will make a massive difference
if you use a 3d model, the tracking will generally be better, and i would recommend vseeface heavily.
positioning of the camera and lighting make a massive difference heres a link vseeface.icu
it's a free program so see how well it works, i've used it with a 14 year old low resolution camera and a 40 dollar taiwan-special one to get comparatively good results
as far as investing goes, audio first, tracking second, but there is nothing wrong with being a png-tuber to see if you even like streaming
make sure to carefully calibrate your tracking, watch your own vods to make sure it's content you yourself would find interesting and do recordings to test your audio for issues before streams
>>3797533
i've used 3tene and it's pretty bad compared to vseeface, at least these days
i don't think vseeface existed when you made those clips last summer though
>>3797840
someone i know went through hell trying to get koikatsu/vkatsu to work so i'd be wary of recommending it, blender/unity exports can be troublesome if you havent gone through the process before and is very picky with version numbers
if you're off by a single digit you'll get scrambled textures and null-lit materials at the minimum

>>3796269
Sounds like you should push to be more interactive with your chat, even if you get small numbers now, it'll have a big impact down the line, and it is something you can work off of as a result
>>3796322
I'll reach out to you on your twitter!

>>3796392
HoloEN essentially disappeared for 4 weeks before they debuted if that gives you a time frame

Can I have a link to the /asp/ server

>>3798889
we have a server?

>>3798938
>>3798889
Is this different to the girl/boy vchan vtuber discords

>>3798768
>i've used 3tene and it's pretty bad compared to vseeface, at least these days
i don’t think vseeface was around back then either, but its good to know that theres a better face tracking software to use so thanks for bringing it up! i do remember 3tene having troubles with tracking mouth and eye movement the most out of everything.
>>3798772
alrighty! i appreciate the heads up

>>3798938
someone randomly posts the invite link every few threads when its brought up; i think it was originally billed as a server for male vtubers but it eventually became open to everyone
>>3799132
its the same ones i'd figure since they're the only discords that get posted here

>>3798938
>>3798889
its closed now no more invites for you faggots

why?

>>3787546
You're right, I don't agree on the premise of most of what you said, so I'll try to skim past that.

>How will they know I browse 4chan
If you don't tell them sure they don't know, and that doesn't matter anyway, you're right. I'm talking about the specific context when you said you won't shill on Twitter, assumedly because you wanted to shill only on 4chan?

>Parasitic
Yeah, that's what I meant by loyalty. To be a parasite you have to only take and not give back. Just being on the site was giving back enough, but you feel like you have to also stay and educate the newer ones? Fine. Then isn't that enough?

But then you also said specifically that you will go beyond that and not shill on Twitter, but instead imply you will continue to try your luck on the site where you sarcastically put your debuff in spoilers and where every reply told to just not stream or to hide it better. Is that the overt LGBT propaganda you were talking about? Because I really don't get it. I guess we really do disagree on everything, so fine, if you enjoy it, I guess there's nothing wrong with it. Best of luck.

>>3798889
>>3798938
>>3799132
>>3799132
>>3799144
It's secret, that means nobody is in it.

>>3799169
So that's the go ahead for someone to just make another one? And then to close that one so someone can make another one?

>pngtubers be like
https://www.twitch.tv/nyamiyu/clip/BitterInnocentLettuceHoneyBadger-iT8vHV7GaR8z6W3c

The discord admin was informed that people are interested in a link again. So unfortunately you'll have to hang tight on that.

>>3799886
cute

Do you guys think Disco Elysium would be a good game to stream?

>>3800784
It'd be fine. Will you read it yourself or have dubs on?

it seems nice to have fans from /vt/ because they have more sensible taste than most retards on twitter, but how are you guys doing? do you feel forced to watch people? are you taking care of yourselves?

me i dont seem to have that much energy to watch anything or anyone, and i seem to have worse problems (being unproductive) than not knowing who to watch

i guess this is just some sort of posture check if you wanna talk in zoomer slang... how do you cope with being a fan? or if youre also streaming, how hard is it to try and keep up with everything (it seems very)

>>3803261
Hard realization that if I want to succeed as a vtuber, I need to focus on myself first. I have a handful of chuubas I'll tune into in order to support them, but I need to put myself and my content first. If I can't catch 'em live, I'll tune into their VODs when I have the chance.

There are only so many hours in the day, and you've gotta find the way you want to best allocate them.

>>3803490
thats really one of the big problems. i cant even sleep on time or eat on time, how much more am i gonna do anything else on time, like stream or do work

I'm planning on making some content unrelated to my vtubing and put it on a Youtube channel to gain traction before I stream. Is that a good play?

>>3803993
Good idea. Been thinking about it myself.

>>3803993
Might work, but just keep in mind that the people who may tune in for your non-vtuber related material may be either turned off or disinterested once you do go full vtuber. If you don't mind that too much, then there's no real harm.

>>3803993
I feel like thats truly the way to go when starting out. no pressure to be entertaining live, and i do have content i can make (music!)

>>3804960
Link to your tunes?

>>3800505
Keep it closed, opening it up will make it become velcord

>>3800505
>>3805799
don't listen to that anon. open it for like 5 seconds so I can get in and make some friends.

>>3806024
Damn thats pathetic

>>3805527
https://clyp.it/f3dcavo1

can you still call it a zatsudan if you are playing a not intensive game in the back? Something that is just there for a backdrop more or less?

>>3806478
Yes.

>>3806478
The whole damn livestreaming thing is a zatsudan if you think about it, all depends on if you can game and talk.

>>3806478
Nobody's gonna call the cops.

>>3806133
This sounds exactly like the sort of music I waana make, real smooth and versatile! Great tracks Anon, I'm getting my gear and dipping into music production for the first time. What software do you use?

>>3806796
FL Studio. i love that program.

>>3803993
I am in the same boat. Started a YouTube channel last year, got close to 1k subs and my vids get, on average, more than 1k views. I am now slowly trying to transition from mostly scripted and edited videos to ones where I am talking freely. My usual content is 5 - 10 minutes in length and recently I did a stream-like video which went for almost an hour. Views were down by 50 % but my subscribers seemed to enjoy it, it was more like normal YT discocery failed me and so I did not really reach beyond my usual circle.

Either way, my big plan is to eventually stream a couple of times with my "real face" and so on just to see if people enjoy me and if they do, I'll transition to VTubing.

There was talk about it over on /wvt/ but it is more fitting here.

Suppose you figured out your niche, how do you find the people interested in it? Where's the best place to advertise? Do you randomly walk into subreddits, do you get int contact with nonchuuba-people already into it, ask for advice or collabs?

>>3807085
The rule in most subreddits is 90-10, so if you post 9 comments/ OCs, you can shill yourself on the 10th.
A good advice I heard is answer questions people have with your videos. If someone asks "what happens if you do so-and-so", make a video on that

currently rigging up 2 models then selling them for cheap ($70 and $300)
I've never used them but for some reason I got them commissioned but then couldn't settle with them.

how often do you guys stream? which times are good for streaming? I've noticed that some times I get far less viewers than other times

https://youtu.be/I6qt24U3WFo

Imagine having to go through a hundred dumpster fire audition videos like this.

>>3808675
cringe

>>3808041
Analytics should tell you where your audience is from. You can aim to accomodate them or move your time for a audience you#d rather have with the risk that you will lose some viewers short term.

Hello anons! i wanted to ask some questions.
What is the most used vtuber 'concept' out there? I know that there is a HUGE amount of sharks (but by the looks of it, people are slowly stopping trying to become shark vtubers), what else? Someone mentioned the other day that vampires is the most overused one, when I would think that succubus would be the most popular one, considering that a lot of VTubers are using ''lewdness'' in order to gain attention. And is it really bad to use overused concept? With shark part I can understand, seeing every 2nd VTuber being a shark is annoying as hell. (I guess i answered my own question)

Another question, would you prefer it if a VTuber paid money for a model, or would you admire the efforts if a person created everything themselves? I personally prefer creating everything by myself, I know it's difficult but it feels more rewarding, even though I can't consider myself to be 'the very best' artist, more like, a normal one. I just want an opinion.

>>3810871
a lot of people really like self-mades, especially for artists
i like self-mades because they can be worked on continuously and improved, new outfits can be done on a whim instead of on a wait list, self sufficiency is the way to go unless you aren't willing to put in the effort
the most used 'concepts' in no particular order are, guys in a hoody, vampires, succubus, cat, fox, dog, skeletons, bunnies,
thats not to say you can't stand out in each of these 'concepts', you aren't generic and boring just because of other peoples content
a lot of people overlook how little the model itself matter, theres are tonnes of successful people in all these over saturated designs, but it's not the design that makes them successful, it's their actual abilities.
Yes that even includes coomer bait succubi, you need to be able to act coomer bait, not just shell out for a nearly nude model

>>3810871
I don't mind overused concepts when they are well done. So if you want to be nekomimi tuber #85399 go ahead. Then again, some designs by themselves probably already have limited appeal, like a shark, so people are probably going to be satiated from a shark tuber much faster than from neko tubers.

As for your other question: it's up to you. I like seeing people that did everything themselves... if it's up to a decent standard. If you are going to be a literal stickman VTuber, I admire that you did the drawing and the rigging... but it's a stickman. I think you are your own best judge if the quality of your work is "good enough", where you also understand that "good enough" does not mean Brian Tsui rigging and Ayamy level character design

>>3810871
Cats, dogs, skimpy outfit e-thottery, etc. are all overdone. Doesn't mean you can't find success, but more than it'll be difficult to stand out from all the rest of the succubi-themed vtubers with horns.

Scuffed models are endearing, but at the end of the day your main content will be how entertaining you are on stream.

>>3810871
Demons and Catgirls are the most overused imo.

As for the second question, I really like when people try to create their own models, but I and most new people stumbling across your stream value the end product at the end of the day, and prefer it when Vtubers actually have something nice to look at. That's why I've hired a character designer to draw up a sheet for me so I can 3D model it myself with Blender

>>3810871
Self-made here, it's very rewarding, costs nothing but time, you can do commissions if you git gud enough, and as the other anon mentioned, you get to make things on the fly.

>>3810871
For me as with singers, if they can write their own song it's admirable but if it sounds like shit in the end or even not on par with a professional song writer I don't bother with them.

>>3810871
catgirls are overused, but I love cats so I still went with it and found a good amount of success.

nintendo switch game recommendations?

>>3812253
pokemon (not snap)

>>3812253
Breath of the Wild, but don't do main story. Set silly goals for yourself to accomplish during the stream and turn it into a zatsudan.

>>3812253
Ring Fit Adventure

>>3812253
Monster Hunter Rise is still hot right now

>>3812253
Miitopia
Make your party all chuubas

>>3810871
>seeing every 2nd VTuber being a shark is annoying as hell.
Excuse me, what? I don't know of many shark vtubers outside Gura and Artemis, but I don't really follow every single debuting vtuber. There's enough that no matter what you think of there'll already be 3 nobody vtubers doing the same thing, so that isn't a consideration.

And as a viewer I really don't see why I'd care whether they made the model itself. I guess it would be impressive, but if that 'self made' aspect just means a lower quality model it'll be worse over time.

>>3807123
>>3807085
speaking of reddit shilling, do you guys think it's a good idea to post my stream on the suberddit of the specific game/genre i'm streaming, as long as self promotion is allowed in the subreddit? i'm just starting out and i'm not sure if it would help out at all. also should i make the post as myself or make a random account, leave a few comments and then make a post like 'wow here's this cool new vtuber i found who caters to this niche'?

>>3816886
Shill yourself everywhere you think you can get away with it, provided it won't provoke any ill will.

If the subreddit seems chill, and people wouldn't mind then, I would suggest you go for it. If the subreddit is hostile or overrun by content, maybe look somewhere else.

Making accounts to shill yourself is 100% noticeable by Reddit mods and will get you banned. Would not reccomend unless you have a bunch of old burner accounts, in witch case it's probably worth while.

Hey uh I need help of rigging my Model on Live2D I have made the design already I need tips on how to rig it

>>3817573
Download Cubism Live2D, go watch some basic basic tutorials.

What’re you struggling with? You can’t just ask “help me rig this” it’s too general.

>>3817573
looks bad
are you going for scuff soul
and theres tons of you tube tutorials

https://www.youtube.com/user/thedreamtrove

this channel helped me a lot

>>3817573
watch kira omoris tutorials. its not that hard

>>3817573
>Another fucking hoodie

>>3817573
>hoodie male
ngmi

>>3818848
that looks like a female to me anon

>>3817573
DESU your core design is very uninsipred.
At a glance all people will see is:
>indifferent female furry in a hoodie
Which is like literally every furry on the planet at some point.
You need to refine your idea. What are your keywords? What is your design concept?

Just got some art done and wanted to see what others thought about the design. I didn't want anything too over the top, but I'm not too sure if it actually ended up being too basic for a character.

>>3819387
that's very generic, considering you'll only see things from chest and above for like 90% of your streams. what's with the JP high school uniform look?

Speaking of hoodies, until I saw just how many hoodie VTubers there are I was planning to don one, but could you suggest any other outfit ideas please? Looking for something either casual and comfy, or street fashion style, not outright lewd but maybe with a slightly exposed belly button for appealing to a personal fetish. Looking through fashion magazines, including Japanese, but can't find that one outfit that would scream "yeah, this is it".

>>3819441
Man or Woman?

>>3819387
Design-wise this looks like a generic fantasy JRPG protagonist, but man your art is nice.

>>3819456
Female, but boyish/manly clothes are fine too.

>>3819387
>>3819416
Looks like an Isekai protag who found a cool coat

>>3819387
discount kirito

>>3819387
Art is nice. You look like 'generic anime protagonist'.
>I didn't want anything too over the top
vTubeing is getting pretty wild and simple designs like this are getting all too common. I'd say your instincts in thinking this is too basic are spot on. I'm not suggesting you trash this entirely, it's a great base. You just need that extra something.

>>3819387
it looks like blue araragi mugged kirito and stole his coat
the art is nice but the idea seems generic

>>3819516
look at outfits using halter tops that cross over the collarbones. they naturally reveal belly, and give you exposed shoulders allowing for addition of things like shawls draped around your shoulders, or a light detailed jacket.

>>3819416
Yeah, I was worried about that. Basic idea for the character is that he's a chuuni still in high school, but instead of being "Dark Flame Master" or "Harbinger of Chaos" type edge, he swung the other way around to being a "Hero of Justice" wannabe type. Basically just cosplaying with while going to school and everything.

In general I kinda wanted it to be generic, especially give a bootleg Kirito vibe like
>>3819599
>>3819578 anons pointed out, but I've been definitely thinking it's too generic even if it's supposed to be generic on purpose. Especially been not too sure if the character idea in general would be fun enough really.

>>3819801
hope your personality is strong enough to carry it. or at least a voice buff.

>>3819801
i think you could make it a bit hammier if you wanna go for that vibe; go for some chunni accessories like a headband or like a shitty pvc foam/plastic pauldron.
high school uniform with extravagant over it does sound like it could still stick out while going for a hero design

>>3819801
Consider bad art on purpose. like you are a middle schoolers oc donut steel, and live in a universe of other oc donut steel and believe your shit like buzz light year

>>3819840
I've done voice over stuff so the idea for a voice was a higher pitch for non-chuuni talking then just hard switching to a lower voice when chuuni monologuing or calling out attack names or whatever.

>>3819868
I actually had the idea of having him carry around two wooden swords either on his sides or back. I do think I need more things to ham it up so a diy pauldron actually does sound fun so I'll be thinking about that

>>3820072
>when chuuni monologuing or calling out attack names or whatever.
I'm having a difficult time visualizing how you'd make this work while streaming video games.

>>3820017
This, go full Coldsteel the Hedgeheg.

>>3819387
Haha... That's our Anon

>>3820017
I actually really like this idea. If I end up scrapping my character idea, there's a good chance I'll just go ham with something like this in mind.

>>3820087
Yeah, in retrospect it might be pretty weird, but the general idea for that was to kinda roleplay with the game if anything. Like, If I'm fighting the final boss of a game I could just pull something like a G Gundam "Take this! My love, my anger, and all of my sorrow!" for the final attack. I was thinking something like Megumin from Konosuba where she flipflops between being normal and then going chuuni at certain points.

What would you guys consider a good rate of growth starting from zero clout? I steadily gain subs every stream, but not in huge numbers

>>3820464
my concern is that if you're playing games like that, you're probably gonna be playing some type of JPRG, which is already a debuff genre of game on its own. plus, in JRPGs, the game's main characters usually pull off that kind of monologue already, so you'd just be stacking on top of that, which is kinda weird.

unless you're talking about like, doing a main quest play through of Skyrim and you monologue something right before last hitting, but honestly just sounds like cringe. but you do you man, if you can keep the kayfabe going, more power to you.

Ah! One of my skeb commissions got accepted! It's gonna be so lewd I can't wait.

>>3820574
what games AREN'T debuff games?

>>3821705
Something with lots of twitch followers, but not a ton of live channels.
Or a game with a cult following

>>3821624
I've had like 12 skebs and non of em were lewd.

>>3822065
what the fuck are you doing then? What a waste of money, anon you should be ashamed of yourself.

>>3797840
Koikatsu is a pain in the ass to work on

>>3810871
>What is the most used vtuber 'concept' out there?
Guy in a hoodie.

>>3821705
Literally any game is a debuff game, you're either:

a) Playing a popular game everybody plays while being at the bottom of the category and no one pays attention to you because they can watch bigger/more popular people.

b) Playing a game nobody plays, being at the bottom at the directory, hoping someone autistic enough to want to watch that one specific game finds you.

c) Try to chase the mythical unicorn that's a game that's popular but doesn't have many streamers and hoping other streamers aren't grabbing all the attention.

Your start is going to be difficult regardless, so play something you actually enjoy because at least you're having fun while streaming for 0 viewers.

>>3795363
Watching your dead cells recording. It's been fun. Your voice is really comfy to listen to. You're really good at continuing to speak while playing which makes it so much more interesting to watch/listen to.
I like the games you're playing and the music you have going on. It's been an enjoyable experience so far.

>>3822285
two of them were character designs (I like getting more OCs) and a lot of the others are just "draw my character with a different outfit"

>>3798889
>>3798938
>>3800505
Hey guys, here you go: https://discord.gg/yuT28bc7

As mentioned, the server was originally for prospective male chuubas. It's for everyone now, more or less.

>>3823801
and here's one exlusively for females.
https://discord.gg/GCYg2f7E

>>3823801
>>3824128
why separate it by genders? Streaming advice is advice

>>3824184
Sometimes it can be nice to get away from male attitudes and biases.

>>3824128
yab

>>3824241
and yet you fuckers had no problem invading the male space huh.

>>3824241
blatant falseflag

>>3824128
This one seems like a falseflag

>>3824355
The server itself is fine, a little quiet.

>>3824355
Honestly it's pretty nice! Admittedly it is quiet since /vtm/ has kind of opened up, but it is good for posting in if you are kind of shy like I am. So far everything seems comfy.

>>3824128
>exclusively for females
>posting this on the basket weaving forum
this does not sound like a good idea

>>3822065
Did you find a NSFW artist? I seeked out one of my favorite monstergirl artists and I'm a monstergirl babi so hopefully it'll all work out.

>>3822986
im sorry for the late reply, anon! but thank you so very much for your input. knowing that there are viewers like you who are actively enjoying my recordings really helps to ease my mind and motivate me.
i hope i can continue to make you feel nice and comfy!

(also to let you in on a lil something fun, i plan to record some spacey stuff for next video! will be talking about the universe and maybe getting a little bit philosophical. hopefully that is up your alley too!)

>>3824128
I missed the invite damn

>>3825256
huh? the female one shouldn't expire for a week, um...
https://discord.gg/tz3jUbpcHe
here's another one???

>>3824942
lobster, I'd watch you sit in a room quietly eating gruel. Whatever you do is fine.

>>3825256
Sorry. Here's a larger link for the male/general server. Hasn't been a problem until now: https://discord.gg/rtpRVq9n

>>3823801
Invite expired

>>3824783
Theres a lot on skeb but I prefer to get sfw art

Afternoon anons. Have you all been doing your networking reps?

>>3825790
i've been getting more follow firsts from bigger than me indie chuubas, does that count?

>>3825352
I meant to click the male one apologies
>>3825421
Thank you

>>3825817
yeah, that's good. Keep up the good work anon

any tips for running a good zatsudan session, especially if you have lower viewer count and thus not a lot of chat participation?

>>3824241
yikes

>>3825876
have a list of topics and talking points either in a doc or a physical notebook in front of you

>>3825876
Prepare topics you want to talk about beforehand and be prepared to monologue for the entirety of it.
Seize any chat interaction and talk go with it until it has run it's course, then come back to your list of topics.

>>3825730
I think it depends on your persona. I run a strickly 18+ stream, so I get lewd on occasion. If you're keeping it clean that SWF art is best.

>>3824942
That is absolutely up my alley. I'm not super excited. Hell I'd love to talk about that kind of stuff with you. You're making this seem cooler and cooler.

Design thoughts? Im way past debut at this point but I'm considering maybe getting an alt outfit or something

I'm also wondering if it appeals to others

>>3827186
The feel I get is that you're a horror game vTuber. Maybe a doctor who has gone off the edge, a-la Dr. Octavius. That being said your design is too "grimdark edgelord" for my taste, but I'm sure this appeals to someone.

Good luck, anon!

>>3827186
babinikus repel audiences from what i see. why a female model?

>>3827186
Hey night, you don't need to keep posting your model. Just finish your hiatus and continue your streaming.

>>3827186
How many times are you gonna keep fucking posting your JoJo rip off

>>3827186
Stop posting. Ngmi tranny

>>3827186
lol I know the guy who drew this. V*T*

>>3806978
The algorithm HATES long videos

>>3829492
Look at that indie here; she is shitting out daily shorts of flavor of week zoomer memes with a green-screen background and recently got traction with this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbCFMvKGpZs
You don't even need to put effort into anything, don't even need to stream.

Terumi drinking asahi so much made me go and get some

I'm surprised how good some of the designs I found in deviant art and some really obscure facebook group I found. And some of them do allow you to use them commercially

>>3830009
Well Senzawa got famous with a stolen anime character avatar and accepted into Hololive so anything will go

Might be a stupid question but how would I go about finding someone to make a reference sheet for the character I'm going for? Specifically one for mecha. Twitter doesn't seem to be much help since a lot of artists don't do mecha and deviantart is hit or miss with the pricing.

>>3830336
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1-WNniuNO2YZUZvfZZ624e04GyKxROReuE_1Y8KIY8s0/htmlview#
Not sure how up-to-date this is, but it's got a lot of info on it.

>>3830336
What kind of mecha are you exactly speaking about? Really a full-on futuristic battle machine or something humanoid mixed into it? Experienced American comic artists should be able to create cool looking ones too when its just a machine.

>>3830524
Was looking more for a simpler robot then a straight up mecha. Think something like Canti from FLCL sorta vibe, atleast the head part.

>>3830551
What's your budget?

>>3831310
Nothing too outrageous. I figure at most 100$ should be fine for just a reference sheet. Maybe 150 if the art is good enough.

>>3831341
a reference sheet can cost upwards of $300-$400, anon...

you know how artists require extra $ for multiple characters. now treat each rotational view of your character as effectively a separate character. front, back, side profiles and you've already got 2.5 characters effectively that you need to pay for.

>>3831405
Really? I've been looking on several sites and most people charge at most around 150-200 at most for a simple reference since you don't have to add that much detail.

>>3831481
Be careful. "You get what you pay for." is all too real.

>>3831481
if that's the case, you're probably lucking out and finding some starting artists who don't know how to price their goods (or you're just getting some amateur tier stuff).

though if the point of this character reference sheet is to just have something that you can give over to a Skeb artist, might be worth it getting some cheapo reference piece for higher quality renders from better artists later.

>>3831581
That's more or less the plan. I don't plan on using the reference art for anything more then character reference, hence why I'm not looking to spend that much.

>>3831610
that's fair and a pretty smart play. hope it works out for you, anon.

>>3831667
much appreciated, mostly just been lurking and hanging out in other chats just networking.

>>3831610
I've seen skeb artists do high quality ref sheets for your budget, but you know how skeb is with the one-shot and no edit thing so..

>>3832054
I've never used skeb, reading over it I don't really get it.

>>3832083
you basically put in a bid to the artist, requesting your art (with descriptions and references) and then a chunk of money. if the artist likes it, they'll accept the request and after a couple of days/weeks you get the finished product.

the catch that you can only communicate once and only once (via your initial request) and you are not allowed to contact the artist about the skeb in any other capacity.

the service was made because a lot of JP artists were pissed off at demanding american commissioners who kept demanding constant changes and pissing off artists. the convenience of not having constant interruptions and revision requests from the buyer is why so many JP artists will use it.

>>3832083
Its a site for commissioning art from japanese artists. You look for an artist with an artstyle you like, describe to them what kind of art you want and pay them. You can't discuss any further than that, so you can't see the work in progress and there wont be edits.

>>3832083
>I don't really get it.
It's a place where non-JP people can comission JP artists. It uses Twitter as a 'base' and you basically 'silent bid' for a commission slot from an artist.

>>3832220
>>3832264
>>3832268
Hmm not sure I like the sound of that. I'm not the type to change up a lot and stuff but the one and done deal seems a bit iffy. Not a fan of the bidding aspect either. Ah well, guess I'll just get one off twitter and hopefully get a good one that way.

>>3832295
probably the best for someone in your situation. i've been using skeb to commission a bunch of cheap fanart of myself where i'm not particularly too concerned about the final product (more just having something to tweet out on twitter and use a video thumbnails, etc.)

Is there a good way to search for art styles on skeb, or is it just scrolling endlessly till you find something you like?

>>3832345
Hmm alright. got any artists to recommend that use it then? I'll take the shot and hope I get something good enough.

>>3832295
Honestly.. their art is really good and it sometimes blows my mind how much some of them charge, all the high quality art I have is from there

>>3832419
there's no real way to sort through styles on Skeb, it's mostly just a "here's an artist" "here's a bunch of their pieces" type deal. you might have better luck browsing through Pixiv and then seeing if the artists there have a Skeb.

>>3832481
honestly, i've just been going through the New Creators list https://skeb.jp/users?sort=date (just a bunch of artists who've recently joined Skeb), and click through to their twitter profile and see if like their style.

most of the newer ones will have cheaper prices (default $50 or sometimes less), because they're just starting out on skeb, so you can take advantage of that too.

>>3832545
Thanks for the advice anon, much appreciated!

>>3832545
>most of the newer ones will have cheaper prices (default $50 or sometimes less)

oh didn't know that, I was confused a bit cause I commissioned some artist and they had that price, then after completing my commission and some others they increased it to $250. I guess I lucked out with it then

>>3832678
yeah, the one-and-done communication thing can work in your favor in those circumstances since they can't contact you or change the commission price once accepted.

just me personally, i feel a bit bad if they change their prices after, so when i get the piece, i choose to Boost the price a bit and pay 'em a bit more (it's Skeb's version of tipping).

First time here but is it frowned upon to post a design and ask what you guys think of her design?

>>3833106
its not, go ahead

>>3833106
Encouraged, actually. People do it all the time. Just don't expect a hugbox, you are looking for honest opinions after all.

>>3833171
>>3833106
A WIP of her. I wanna go for something tropical and summery. She's a bit inspired by both the music from Fuujin Rizing and Merm4id which have very summery feels to them. But I've been sharing her between my friends to see if anything feels missing. Or if people find her design charming enough to keep it this way as her final.

>>3833585
makes me think of an orange soda drink with garnish

>>3833704
The green is important! Because my personality is very introverted but i always try to sound extroverted so I want to try something like that w here where here design is very orangey when shes trying to push the act but then her design is more green when introverted because her hair is lose (so theres more green shown than in this design) and she wears a greener outfit. idk maybe im reaching on something here but i dont know what

>>3833585
>>3833704
seconding this, reminds me of orange fanta with a mix of lime. I like it though

>>3833992
i'm not really sure it needs to go that far into the design, but it's super cute and unique. does pretty well at hitting the summer-y refreshing feeling.

>>3833585
She looks really cute and unique, anon. Will you be keeping the rest of the hair white or will you be changing it at some point? Looks good regardless but just curious.

>>3793270
Castle Clique is the best indie vtuber in the game right now
https://youtu.be/6nRbX0yAQtA

>>3836757
That's a good one anon, this is some garbage a tiktoker would make.

>>3819801
>>3820017

This, one angle is that if your joke is that you're sort of generic, make it extremely generic and make it clear that that's your joke, and you're not just being generic because you're uninspired. Maybe make an extremely convoluted alternative outfit and have your character sometimes make allusions to how they'll never wear it as they hate it.

Do I really have to appeal to coomers to be successful? This is the trend I'm seeing, at least for en tubers

>>3838416
Are you a woman? I don't believe so, I think lewd people get more numbers but a wholesome type would get smaller more dedicated group of viewers.

>>3838416
Depends. How would you feel about becoming dependent on coomers?

>>3838416
Not really. I'd say having minimum dead air is far more important for success.

Reminder for next thread to remove the "opsec" guide in the resources pastebin (because it's mostly useless info) and replace it with the actual opsec guide below:


1 - Don't post personal information on social media. Names, addresses, selfies, photos with exif data still attached, etc. If you're posting irl photos, take it, sleep on it, and recheck it in the morning for reflections and shit.

2 - Use a separate email address solely dedicated to your vtuber identity that will serve as a nexus for all your accounts.

2.5 - Use a separate browser entirely for your personal life and your vtuber life. I use Firefox for personal use and my vtuber is a scrub who uses Microsoft Edge. This ensures zero possibility of an auto-fill, bookmark, or even social media account logged in yab. (Don't import settings from one to the other, obviously).

3 - Create a fresh Steam account and use the Steam Family Share feature to access games that are already installed on your computer (that you own on your Main). There will be no way to connect your new Steam account to your old account as Steam does not reveal Family Share status (unless you're screencapping the actual Steam window itself, which... why would you ever do that?)

4 - Write down a completely generic and random name that's not associated with you or anyone you know. Day[9]'s was "Felicity." Write that name on a stickynote and stick it on your monitor's bottom bezel. Whenever you tell a story about "someone", you're going to reference "Felicity" (or whatever other name). This is here to help you avoid naming real life people you know.

5 - Google search "Your Name" + "City". You'll find that there's like 20 different 'public info' database websites. They all have methods on opt-ing out and removing your data. Doesn't mean the data is gone, just means that the particular website you requested data removal from won't make it so obviously easy.

6 - Create a completely separate Windows User profile for your vtuber avatar and install all your vtuber related programs on here. This will ensure there is virtually no way for your files located on your personal profile to cross over. (Note: You'll have to reinstall all your games, and for Steam, reinstall a new set of games with your main, then Family Share it over to your vtuber account. This adds extra layers of clunkiness but provides a greater level of separation between your personal Windows profile and the vtuber one.)

>>3838897
number 6 will protect against pic related where a game might accidentally reveal filepath information and display your Windows User profile's name (in the pic, Ame's set a fake name as "Amiki", which is revealed on stream when she goes into the game's setting menu).

for jannies, "Amiki" is not Ame's real name. it's a fake streamer name she set up for her Windows Profile, so don't ban me.

>>3838897
Ok but
>2.5
Download fucking Brave ffs
>3
Some games will bring your profile name together, and streaming the window is necessary for some

Recorded a little streaming setup test.
https://files.catbox.moe/9koyav.webm

>>3839812
sound is whack. if you're using OBS, keep your voice in the middle of the yellow, and the game's loudest sounds within the green. opt to make the game quieter if necessary.

rig is scuff, but i'm assuming you're planning on improving it over time, so i won't comment on that, but you've got something unique going on, so that's cool.

make sure your layers are set properly so you're on top of the game. rather than disappearing behind the game screen like pic related.

>>3839812
oh shit, i remember you from a couple of weeks (months?) back! glad to see you've still been at it
your mic seems to be picking up a lot of background static and the balance between game/audio seemed to be a bit bad though those are both pretty fixable things in OBS
very great taste using Tactics Ogre to test things out too; i've always been meaning to play that

>>3825390
anon i would commit atrocities for you. thank you for your unwavering support ;__;
>>3827066
i’m super glad to hear it!! i’m gonna watch some informational videos and write down some talking points since theres so much cool stuff about the universe to talk about. and yeah honestly maybe one day we can talk about it on stream and have a live convo :D

Alrighty, i have a week of clips. Should I:
A) split them up stream by stream, upload as stream highlight videos
B) split them up by week (10-17th Highlights!)
C) upload each clip individually
I stream on YouTube.

>>3829492
>The algorithm HATES long videos
I disagree. It's more of the case that it is hard to keep people entertained for a long period time.

>>3836531
Im thinking of keeping it white, thank you very much!

>>3841754
First option always

>>3829492
>>3842643
Yes, speaking out my bad memory, people love watching short vids. And don't watch long (10 minute) vids.

However, the algorithm would definitely love it if you somehow got people to watch your entire 10 minute vid. But would rather a lot of people watch only your spammed short vids than nobody watch at all.

>>3842852
You think so? Three or so from one stream are short enough I could make them Shorts, and the algo looooooves those.

>>3843798
I think the algorithm got nerfed

>>3843978
I mean even if it's down to +10 from +100 it's still a +10. Better than a +0.

>could have started streaming back in feb
>would have had at least 90 days of reps under my belt by now
>still procrastinating for some reason

>>3844405
Just do it is the best advice we can give at this point

>>3844405
Literally set up a recurring reminder on your phone to do some kind of stream or practice every day. Don't mark it as done until you actually do it, even if you're busy and can only manage like half an hour. Best way I've found to build a habit.

>>3824942
ebin :DDD

night bump before I sleep

>>3844405
It's fine, just start now, and in 90 days you won't be thinking the same thing.

So I kinda want to make edutainment crap about weeaboo things and other personal interests, in a "see what sticks" sort of approach, how much of a turnoff do you think a generic babiniku catgirl avatar would be?
It's a choice between this (out of long-standing love for the format since before Kizuna was a thing, and personal 性癖) and nothing at all, and I'm not seeking or expecting numbers since it's niche and just a self-expression hobby thing, but I'm wondering how much of a hard nope would this be even if a viewer would be interested in the content itself? Not an artist or a voice actor or anything, so no buffs, just a rugged slav accent debuff.

hey /asp/, i can keep a conversation without chat, have a rigged model, and i think my voice is pretty cute. but i've plateaued at 10-20 viewers. i don't know what i'm doing wrong. how do i keep growing?

>>3849145
Tbh I think you are doing a good job! Keep it up

>>3849145
are you doing your networking reps

>>3849317
where is everyone doing their networking reps? i have twitter and am trying to post more. sometimes i shill in wvt too but for the most part it gets ignored

>>3849145
>i think my voice is pretty cute
post

>>3849334
Where is your potential audience hanging out online?

>>3849334
- Tread through the #VTubers Hashtags
- Participate in PNG shares (This part sucks)
- Follow trends (This part really sucks. Deal with it)
- Follow VTubers of similar size
- Comment on their posts (Don't comment on every post, but try to organically grow closer)
- Get other VTuber's stream chats
- Don't just lurk. Actively comment. (The goal isn't for you to actively hog up the comment box. But you should try and participate as much as you're able. IMPORTANT: Make sure not to make it about you. At the end of the day it's the other VTuber's channel. All you want to do is get your name out there naturally).
- POST. CONTENT. It doesn't literally have to be streams. But making memes, creating mini-videos, making art, posting funnies, etc. to have your followers engaged is key. You should be ideally tweeting something every day.
There's probably more stuff I'm forgetting but this should get you started. Networking is fucking annoying as hell, especially for shy friendless losers like us. But they're incredibly important for your success. So you better start doing your networking reps or else.

>>3849103
Personally It's not a hard nope from me. It only becomes a hard nope from me when babaniku's aren't self aware. Simple jokes and icebreakers at your own expense can help ease people into the concept who might be weirded out by the clash in avatar and voice. Don't go out of your way to bring up how bizarre your circumstances are, but when it is brought up by your viewers or collab partners, don't ignore it and just make a quick joke of it before doing whatever it was you were previously doing.
>just a rugged slav accent debuff.
This can work in your favour for if people question you too, since you can make a joke about how all women from your country 'totally' sound like you do.

>>3849370
i haven't thought about it this way before. i'm not sure i appeal to any specific group though. but i guess if wvt is ignoring me its not here

are stream overlay really needed?

>>3849430
I dont have one but eventually it would be nice. I think starting and ending screen are more important

>>3849390
thanks anon. i'll keep pushing. it just gets disheartening sometimes

>>3849390
I have 4 digit followers on twitter and some of them regularly watch my streams. it might not be a lot to some but it's a lot to me but I hate tweeting. getting followers is one part but then having to keep them entertained so they don't abandon you and move on to the next chuuba is the far more annoying part

>>3838897
regarding
>number 5
if you're in the EU you can ask any websites that contain your personal information to remove it as per the GDPR. this doesn't always work but if it's a smaller website like a school or theater they'll usually listen because they don't want any trouble. I managed to scrub most of my childhood acting career off the internet this way and it's probably good opsec even for aspiring vtubers, in case anyone ever does get a hold of your real name.

>>3849396
Thank you, if I go this route this will be important to keep in mind, and I dig the joke.

>>3849598
I know exactly what you mean anon. The social media game is cruel, cold and merciless. Some people like to spend their time gaming it, but to most regular god-fearing folk like ourselves it's very crushing. But that's just how the game if played. Gotta do what you gotta do

>>3849103
I suppose "debuffs" are only debuffs due to how uncommon they are. In a way, stacking debuffs might be it's own strat? A deep-voiced, slavic catgirl telling you about japanese interests sounds like it could be perfectly entertaining if you lean into it. Just a theory.

For anyone worried about buff/debuff games: watch through Terumi’s zatsudan about “critical interest” and how it holds the viewer’s attention.

>>3850864
Timestamp please? I always favorite Terumi's streams since she has such good advice.

>>3850942
Starts at 36:55 on this stream
https://youtu.be/B1uhJrwG1B8

>>3850864
Speaking of, she’s asking for questions regarding love and the relationship between the vtuber and the audience.
https://marshmallow-qa.com/terumikoizumi

>>3849430
Yes

>>3849430
not really, but there are plenty of free to use ones on twitter if you do want one

>>3850864
>>3850942
>>3851079
Her stream is about to start in roughly 90 minutes, so I'm sure if you have any last minute questions, you can pop those in.

I'm trying to design a male vtuber and it's so hard to do it compared to female desings.

I guess the convenience of just putting shirt and pants contributes to male designs being so plain, compared to women who have thousands of clothing options. So if don't want plain Joe or overdesigned video game character, finding a middleground that's interesting it's hard.

And then there's the cuteness factor, even a girl with a hoodie can be a cute tomboy, while a guy with a hoodie becomes just sloppy. I understand the appeal of turning babiniku better now, it's like playing a female character on a MMO because you can make the girls cute.

I managed to get one design going, but the feedback I got is that it doesn't fit my personality at all and would be better spent on someone more extroverted and naive. So back to square one.

>>3853295
look up like Japanese fashion for males to get an idea of some stuff. also build up your backstory a bit because that makes it so much easier.

>>3853215
I submitted several questions.
Speaking of which, I've participated in several indie's marshmellows/curiouscat, and boy is it awkward when you are like >50% of the questions asked. Do people really not submit stuff for these things?

>>3853295
Try looking up fashion posts on Pintrest and Tumblr, or look for clothes on Etsy. I usually come up with a theme for a character and select what would be the standard outfit, but then alter it in a way by adding, subtracting, or replacing elements. Like a soccer tomboy but instead of a jersey it's a leotard and instead of spats they're jean shorts with thigh highs.

here is my character, an annoying jaded asshole

>>3853550
This is my first time I cared enough to do one, Terumi's grounded heh amiable personality is very attractive as a chuuba to just talk straight with you. She gives off big onee-sama energy but in a way that's more authentic.

>>3853665
get to eating all the rrats 'round here

>>3853295
Not sure which theme you're trying to go for but looking up male J-fashion as >>3853543 suggested is a great idea.
Looking here might stir up some ideas as well especially if you're going for a fantasy theme:
https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamours/men
Although there's a good chunk of people who dislike the Arknights aesthetic, the costumes get away from the standard style a bit. Most of these are for females, but the few male ones here might help: https://gamepress.gg/arknights/database/skin-list
Other than these specifically, looking up official art of characters could help since most of them are made by actual character designers.

>>3853550
I believe it's one part the Vtuber not really being known, and one part shyness from her fandom.

>>3853665
>annoying jaded asshole

What would be the best way to reveal or shill a new Vtuber model? I’ve seen people do pic related, but is that a good way to go about it? It seems a bit annoying, but it also gives incentive for viewers and dans to help shill.

>>3854962
Tbh it only gives you Twitter followers, not viewers so there's not much point

>>3854962
Honestly, a straightforward png or art commission would get the point across much faster in my opinion. I never saw the appeal of reveals like this.

>>3855035
But then you can reveal pieces through Twitch follower milestones instead right? That would help get you views I think.
>>3855046
Yeah, I’m thinking of asking my artist to post the model and tag my account. Free shilling to more than 50k people there. But then there’s really no hype for it in that case.

>>3853543
>>3853613
It may be weird, but I'm trying to avoid the fashion references for now because I feel it would take the design feeling closer to ikemen/cool guy style that wouldn't fit me - like, it's not what I idealistically would aim for and I can't see myself fitting the role either, even when playing a character.

I guess I have a vague feeling of what I'm aiming for and on a sliding scale of cute to cool it skews towards cute... the design I made that I liked would not be out of place on, let's say, a Kid Icarus crossover with Touhou.

I have a couple other ideas, but they'd feel too derivative. So it needs more design exploration, I guess.

>>3853723
I have been taking a loot at my artbooks and have done some character design myself in the past, albeit for my own projects.

The issue I'm running with is that designs usually service a story/scenario, and while having a character backstory can help it, for a vtuber it's not that significant - I mean, even if your backstary says you're a survior of the nuclear holocaust, you're not running around post-nuclear wastelands, you're in front of the screen, and that demands a design that has a more immediate appeal out of context over, let's say, a variation on the themes of Fallout or Mad Max that would be perfectly fine within a story/scenario.

Or maybe I'm overthinking it.

>>3855276
Consider the following:
- Who are you and what makes your desing reveal that interesting? - Do you alreayd have a viewer/follower base for which the design would be a novelty and make them talk about it to others?
- Why would someone follow you for your design reveal when there's people whose designs have already been revealed and are already streaming with theirs?
- And if someone follows for the design reveal, why would they keep following/watching once they get what they were looking for?
- How succesful have others who tried this strategy have been in retaining the attention of the audience/follower-base?

I just don't get these kinds of gimmicks - you're building anticipation for a PNG while you could do a reveal and work on building an audience for yourself - but if it has worked for others, why not?

>>3856320
You bring up a lot of good things to consider, so thank you very much for that, anon. I’ll think on it for a bit and look around to see how reveals have worked for other tubers, as well as ask friends and maybe viewers for their opinion as well.

glad to see the thread's still alive somehow.

soooo akio air phase 3 anyone? thats the only open audition currently right?

Wonder why I was kicked from the server, I literally only said hi. I mean, I don't mind, just idly wondering about the possible reason.

>>3862439
>discord

How the hell do I make a good logo
I want a logo like the HoloEN girls do but the person who does them doesn't seem to have commissions open right now

>>3862439
maybe someone should make another server thats public and completely open to everyone. i'd be down to join that

>>3862439
Maybe you weren't active enough? I know people are concerned about lurkers who might be there just to gather screenshots.

>>3862931
theres kona_x_taros on skeb, they do great logos

>>3864252
Fair enough, though it's been a day and I've been at work, so yeah. But with vtubing being as sensitive to privacy as it is, can't judge them.
>>3864110
That's an idea, though I've joined a couple of vtuber discords over the years, mostly JP ones and they mostly end up either boring or quickly abandoned. And you know what 4chan users usually think of non-anonymous potentially circlejerk communities, so there's that too.
>>3862931
You could commission a normal logo designer, there are thousands of good freelancers, doesn't have to be a Vtuber logo designer.

>>3864671
if you're who i think you are based on the join logs and who is still in the server i sent you a request on discord

>>3864671
>And you know what 4chan users usually think of non-anonymous potentially circlejerk communities, so there's that too.
True, but I doubt it would be seen as that bad of a thing. Might make one tonight to see how it goes.

>>3864755
Will keep an eye out for it anon

>>3853295
I'd say give skeb a view, I found a lot of good art in general of male characters but as others said pinterest is the best choice for clothing. I'm using several images saved from pinterest and some other stuff as references

>make twitter account
>immediately blocked and it's asking my phone number

the fuck is this shit?

>>3867706
it's a spam system they have in place because of all the people making bot accounts with an email. It's dumb as fuck but you're better off using a phone number. adding an email, and then removing phone number from your account. That's what I did.

>>3867757
yeah I have immediately deleted it, no way I'm risking getting doxxed by people in the future, stupid niggers

So alongside following the opsec, are voice changers a good way to hide your identity? Is it worth taking the debuff if you modulate it slightly?

Is it okay to share alternate outfit ideas? Or is it something that should be a surprise?

>>3869255
If you want feedback for touch ups, sure! If you want to leave it as a surprise to your audience the next timd you stream you should probably ask someone in your inner circle.

>>3868574
Is your voice even known to anyone online?

>>3870437
Possibly? There are a couple of videos where it's in, but my mic was pretty shitty and I wasn't really the focus in a lot of it.

>>3870770
Sounds like the answer is "no", so I don't think using a voice changer would help any opsec.

>>3870810
Okay then, thanks

when and how should i start my interacting on social media?

>>3874868
>when
Right fucking now.
>how
>>3849390

>>3795737
>that pic
wait... Armain? looks like they were right about vtubing being a retirement home for oldfags...

>>3855774
>The issue I'm running with is that designs usually service a story/scenario
Not quite sure if I completely get your concerns but as a viewer, I think it's more important that your outfit is well-designed and unique over having a wide appeal. Judging from a design alone, most would be more interested in watching a sunlight-deprived nuclear holocaust survivor who has a bunch of keepsakes strapped onto his collar and is half-dressed in a hazmat suit over guy in a tuxedo #48392. Of course your actual ability to entertain is most important, but I feel like most would click on a stream with a nuclear holocaust survivor on the thumbnail over a catboy or something. It's true that being ikemen/cute will net you more fans, but what's stopping you from being a cute nuclear holocaust survivor?

>>3879888
I'm all for a "My Nuclear Holocaust Survivor Can't Possibly be This Cute!"

I'm surprised none of the mute vtubers have done a mime yet.

>>3882498
probably because it would be hard to communicate since you have to be silent.

>>3849390
>participate in png shares
DO NOT. This kills your reaction averages and you're essentially fucking yourself over.
Actively commenting inane shit does the same. Comment things that will net you likes.

>>3882671
Man, reading this feels kinda sad. And we all wonder why twitter is a shithole, people thinking like this. I know you're trying to make money in this venture but it feels so soulless.

>>3882759
I'm a viewer, not a chuuba. This is the truth and people deserve to know.

>>3882759
They are kind of right though. Commenting just for the sake of commenting sorta give a bad vibe compared to commenting on someone because you're a friend.

>>3882498
there's mute vtubers? Where can I find them?

>>3799554
>If you don't tell them sure they don't know, and that doesn't matter anyway, you're right. I'm talking about the specific context when you said you won't shill on Twitter, assumedly because you wanted to shill only on 4chan?
Not what I meant, I mean I'm not going to suddenly start looking elsewhere for a fanbase because "this one is bad and hates me"
>Yeah, that's what I meant by loyalty. To be a parasite you have to only take and not give back. Just being on the site was giving back enough, but you feel like you have to also stay and educate the newer ones? Fine. Then isn't that enough?
The recompense I get from educating newfags is nothing, when talking about streaming as a vtuber, that's almost inherently a business. Why are you acting like I'm doing my target audience some kind of favor? This is an equal exchange here. Even if I never get a superchat, if I get a loyal following of people who watch my content that gives me inherently more options than I had before to do almost anything.
>where you sarcastically put your debuff in spoilers and where every reply told to just not stream or to hide it better.
Yes, because this website is full of autistic and sarcastic people with often times minimal social skills. I wouldn't be anywhere near where I am now if it weren't for their advice either. Not just here but in pretty much every thread I'm learning stuff about what does and doesn't work, and multiple people already said I could hit the target if I took the right steps, instead of told me to get fucked. The main reason I dismissed your statements out of hand though wasn't even because you mentioned twitter but because you acted like I should abandon this audience and pursue some woke millennial crowd like sharkfag or something.
> I guess we really do disagree on everything, so fine
I really am more interested in the audience available to me here. Both in tone and quality, I feel like I will have more growth even if it involves climbing more hills.

It's not like the people who post here are an endless resource, but the banter, camaraderie, and genuine behavior and reactions are time and time again something anyone with good thick skin can measure themselves with, while the people who seethe and complain on other sites end up either irrelevant or at the very least, pushing out work that is quietly regarded as mediocre or worse.

>>3883383
There's Corpse, that's the only one I know of.

>Hololive EN is all girls
>Nijisanji EN turns out to be all girls
There's no hope for guys in the west, is there?

>>3883899
unless you're Calli tier at content production, have released albums in Spotify, have a portfolio of at least 2+ years worth of consistent creation, and experience as a public entertainer, no men have a chance.

gotta realize that there are hundreds of thousands of highly skilled women who already meet those criteria. you need to meet and then surpass those to get over the male debuff to even have a shot. the success of HoloEN shot the bar up to the sky. there's a ton of money to be made there and it's a lot easier to get returns with a cute girl doing cute things.

Is having a sub/bit goal on screen considered tacky? Assuming you don't have some insane goal, does that help?

>>3885666
It won't really make or break anything. Pretty common to have on a twitch stream.

>>3880088

>>3887371
why does your chest strap go under your right arm? how's it being held in place?

>>3887777
>>3887777
>>3887777
new