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Now the dust has settled...what went wrong here?
Did we really missed one council slot due to lazy gook nepotism? We could have pomu here or some competent girl that AT LEAST streamed and enjoyed her work.
Why are koreans so lazy? Ayame was right

>> No.38579165

>>38579077
Is she ogey? I mean, I heard she immediately stopped the sana ark and btfoed all sanalites who tried to still follow her. I sure she really was no into this vtuber stuff
Never trust gooks

>> No.38579298

>>38579165
what she do to those sanalites?

>> No.38579546

>>38579077
Anybody consider that this threw a wrench in Ina's friendship with Sana?

>> No.38579618

>>38579077
Besides the common reasons, management killed a few of her ideas early on, no shit you get demotivated.

>> No.38579646

We could've had Selen in Hololive, but they prioritized Ina's nepo hire...

>> No.38579675

>>38579077
>we could have pomu here
No, she applied for Myth and didn't make it. She auditioned and joined Niji before council was a thing.

>> No.38579694

>>38579298
lets just say that Sana is no longer hungry for a while

>> No.38579894

>>38579675
Pomu is way better than most of Myth, what the fuck?

>> No.38580964

"She's doing tons of artwork behind the scenes" was the biggest cope rrat on this board.

>> No.38580997

>>38579077
>Now the dust has settled
>Let's create more dust
Ogey

>> No.38581035

>>38579077
Well, Sana's slot is for artist with competitive Pokemon player as a side-quirk.

Remember each Hololive girls are picked for different talents they offer, and Sana's slot is basically the artist of their generation. Any replacement for Sana probably need to be same kind of artist.

>> No.38581052

who?

>> No.38581241

She didn't like the job, she moved on. At least she didn't take the Ayame route.

>> No.38581281

>>38579077
Honestly?
I think she'd been happier in a different company.
She started very strong doing creative stuff and streaming a lot specially pokemon and kirby.
She didutue neighbula and the pet streams and just the last month she showed us a glimpse of a no-limer Sana.
I blame mismanagement on this one, I'm convinced EN is being held back by shitty management who in turn demotivates and sucks the energy out of the talents.

>> No.38581443

>>38579077
Management wouldn't let her do things, she was already the weakest of her gen from the outset, dog dead, back hort, both took her out of the picture long enough so that her on-screen development with her genmates was permanently stunted in the eyes of fans, never was very keen on streaming to begin with, Ina had to talk her into applying, she wasn't menhera and she wasn't destitute before joining, so she never had the rags to riches factor to lean on like most of the others do.

Also the stream times she picked were often bad for NA, and don't say they were fine for Australia, because she almost always streamed in the middle of the fucking night. That cheeky cunt.

>> No.38581445

>>38581035
>Hire Pokemon player
>Only let them stream the latest Pokemon game for a month or so

>> No.38581857

>>38581445
She's hired to be the artist. Pokemon is more of a side-niche that is not fulfilled in HoloEN yet. Its like how Ina is The Artist, but her side-niche is being pretty decent gamer too.

>> No.38581921

Stealth holobeggar thread, just watch Pomu if you want her in your shitty wave so bad

>> No.38581931

>>38579894
For all of EN, I'd say Fauna and Gura are better than her, but everyone else is below. (IRyS is debatable.) Kinda shocking when you think about it.

>> No.38581968

>>38579077
Management didn’t let her play gacha games

>> No.38582046

>>38580997
OP spreading Sana's ashes all over the board and jannies just finished brooming the place last week

>> No.38582449

>>38579077
car crash, back injury, can't do holofes

>> No.38582696

>>38581443
The double cull she got at the start was pretty severe compared to the rest of Council. In a way she was doomed all the way back during her debut week before all the stuff that followed.

>> No.38582828

>>38579077
>pomu
Timing does not align at all, doesn't it? Pomu was pretty much confirmed niji once council auditions went up. That discards obsidya as well, they were recruitewd at the same time.
The only current niji girls that could have made it in council are the Ethirya ones. Out of those the only one that would have done somewhat okay was Miillie. You would all have shit on her pretty hard for being ESL and being more of a HoloID.member than a HoloEN one.

>> No.38582939

>>38581443
I was NA and she streamed at pretty decent times for me. usually around 5pm or so. But yeah you're right. She didn't seem to fit in anywhere with council, and it was especially apparent during the 6 month anniversary when she was still stuck in debut mode with the same old jokes, while the rest of her gen were talking to each other like normal people.
I miss her, but in a way i'm glad she's gone and Irys took her place.

>> No.38582942

Ina being gone is a direct result of Sana's leaving.

>> No.38582962

>loves kirby, streams it for 11 hours
>injury happens
>only streams kirby for 3 or 4 hours

>> No.38583309

>>38581443
Back Hort turned out to be entirely a lie.

>> No.38583618

>>38579675
>No, she applied for Myth and didn't make it.
Ina got in thanks to her art and Gura is a genuine excellent entertainer when she gives a fuck, but
>Picking Kiara, Ame or Mori over Pomu

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38583951

>>38579165
>Is she ogey?
She is absolutely in pure ecstasy.
She is also gonna be in japan later this month as she will attend personally at comiket for selling artbooks and will spend time with Kiara Mori and IRyS, and thats already confirmed on her end.

>> No.38584011

>>38582962
>>injury happens
There never was any injury or if there was it WAS NOT that serious afterall since it "magically" made full recovery as soon she graduated

>> No.38584133

>>38579165
i dont blame her, holobronies are trash.

>> No.38584219

Can you just let my big brown wife just die in peace already? Please

>> No.38584300

>>38584219
The only thing your "wife" good did was not being a total whore that could have gone the gura route and kept milking you for years while streaming once every 2 month, but i guess she didn't do it because thats not really viable while being at less than 400k subs in Hololive

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38584362

>>38584011
Fuck off with your rrats. Will always love me my Sanner.

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38584390

>>38581443
>>38582696 (me)
Found what I was looking for and completely forgot how bad it was, looks like they got culled 8 times (to varying degrees of severity) during this initial period.

>> No.38584669

>>38583951
her art its so shit, looks like a pokemon character.

>> No.38584763

>>38584390
So was Cover using bots, or was YouTube being trash?
I swear I had subscribed to a couple of them and then found myself unsubbed, but I could be wrong.

>> No.38584767

>>38584669
No wonder it's selling

>> No.38584770

>>38584362
Keep your head buried in the sand if you want to, but she tweeted that herself

>> No.38584809

>>38579077
I don't usually say X was a wasted slot because that's usually 1view cope but that's what she was. She took a whole month off for a dead dog. Then she had a serious back injury that prevented her from streaming... unless it's the final 3 weeks before graduating when she was miraculously cured and suddenly able to stream everyday with no complaints. Now sanalites are saying management was at fault for her being a lazy cunt, as if giving her more perms would've fixed her shitty work ethic.

>> No.38584836

>>38581443
>never was very keen on streaming to begin with
That's the main problem right there. And the issue is Cover selecting members because they are talented in drawing, singing, brapping, etc. instead of being good entertainers and actually wanting to stream.

>> No.38584926

>>38584763
Youtube has an automated system to detect and curb 'unnatural' channel growth, especially when it doesn't have any content yet. For corporate streamers whose channels grow really fast before they've even debuted, that system picks up on legitimate subscribers and scrubs them, particularly if the subscriber has little other activity on Youtube. Some might be bots, on Cover's part or fans trying to make their favorite design win the sub game right out the gate, but usually it's just a hole in the algorithm, and no one at Youtube keeps an eye on it.

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38584980

>>38584770
Even if it was true (that one tweet isn't proof), keeping my head in the sand would still be better than being a faggot.

>> No.38585040

Waste of space and only hired because of Ina
I did not like her and her attitude after graduating is rude as fuck
also she's stupid for not milking her retarded fans that followed her from hololive

>> No.38585075

>>38584980
Did you say something?
Sorry I got distracted, I was busy watching my oshi because she actually loves streaming and her fanbase

>> No.38585120

>>38584836
You can't measure the enthusiasm of someone like Sana from an application. She can present an enthusiastic face towards anything at will.

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38585180

>>38584669
I get it, you don't like her style, but she's absolutely cracked as an artist. Just as cracked as her back.
I love Sanana and will blow her back out again.

>> No.38585295

>>38584836
I don't really believe this. She put out ten to twelve hour streams when she did stream, which is a really inefficient method if you're in it for the profit alone. No one who hates streaming would do that, you'll just fart out 2 hour long streams at the most.

>> No.38585583

doxxchad, is it true that her dead pet is the reason why she take a month off? i found it hard to believe that someone live a life so good that the dead of family pet justifies taking a month break, at a times she need to regulary stream to build a foothold.

>> No.38585595 [DELETED] 

>>38584390 (me)
>>38584763
>>38584926
Found another cull that happened a day or two after their debuts, crazy to think of a Hololive talent at barely above 100k subs a day after debut. Council REALLY got fucked hard right out of the gates.

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38585658

>>38584390 (me)
>>38584763
>>38584926
Found another cull that happened a day or two after their debuts, crazy to think of a Hololive talent at barely above 100k subs a day after debut. Council REALLY got fucked hard right out of the gates.

>> No.38585771

>>38579894
At the time of EN1 auditions Pomu had no streaming experience. Not surprising she got passed over since there was no way to tell she was better.

>> No.38585815

>>38585771
> there was no way to tell she was better.
Ghost Pomu?

>> No.38585848

>>38585583
The reason was likely that Australia states decide on their own quarantine regulations and only one in particular had a two week mandatory hotel quarantine. Talking about it, in addition to triggering the covid Youtube AI debuff trigger, would have narrowed her location down a lot.

>> No.38585883

>>38585815
Debuted after being rejected.

>> No.38585904

>>38584770
>Keep your head buried in the sand if you want to, but she tweeted that herself
Sana wanted fans to know that she was healthy which is something that she could say on her RM account but couldn't say on her hololive account. The radio silent breaks in the months leading up to her sudden graduation would indicate major fights with management. Ina and Gura had the same radio silent breaks this year along with their total streaming hours decreasing to less than half of what they were last year.

>> No.38585911

>>38585883
That's crazy. Her audition video must have been pretty shitty then.

>> No.38585945

>>38585911
No, you are pretty much ignored if you have no proven track record. Minus points if you aren't asian.

>> No.38586000

>>38579077
>We could have pomu here
Why the fuck would you want Pomu? We already have Pomu. What would she be able to do in Holo that she can't do in Niji?

>> No.38586213

>>38586000
>What would she be able to do in Holo that she can't do in Niji?
But anon, don't you want to watch Pomu playing minecraft alone and barely doing any collabs? Think about all the awesome holocure streams she could have done instead of playing through all the MGS games

>> No.38586309

>>38579646
Would love to have seen that, though Selen looks better

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38586359

>>38586213
The merch would be the only real benefit if Pomu was a holo, imagine having a Pommie plush instead of this fucking piece of shit

>> No.38586383

She did put out that cryptic tweet that she was healthy and her health wasn't impacting her work after her graduation so who knows. She seems crazily addicted to gacha shit, so I assume the whole hololive thing was a little curiosity that she ended up not liking at all. Fair enough, why put up with autistic management when you don't have to.

>> No.38586399

>>38579646
nah I love selen but she is selen because of what she does, and what she does she can only do in nijisanji
I hope she gets more holo collars tho

>> No.38586661

Why are people saying she's a competitive pokemon player ? I've never seen her play on showdown or VGC. Knowing EVs, IVs and nature isn't competitive, we need actual gameplay

>> No.38586846

>>38579077
She chose a Chinese mobile game over Hololive.

>> No.38587573

>>38586661
Shut up manchildren no one cares about competitive pokemon

>> No.38593330

>>38579165
>>38579077
What is interesting is before and after she just had negative interest in hololive. Doesn't draw fanart or talk about it

>> No.38598123

>>38579618
>management killed a few of her ideas early on
proof? What type of "la creatividad" shit she was planning?

>> No.38598215

>>38585945
1/5 of Myth is Asian anon

>> No.38598280

>>38586399
No yabs, just laughs a lot and jokingly shittalks, doesnt shit on her fans. She would have triple the numbers if she were in Hololive.

>> No.38598640

>>38598123
>What type of "la creatividad" shit she was planning?
>Playing 10 hours of the most generic and riged chink gacha shit
She is just a lazy artist addicted to shit gacha games. Ina also don't like streaming that much, but sana never liked. Ina probably convinced her to just join because "People will superchat you while you play", thinking there will be no commitment, collabs and that being a holo doesn't demand any type of effort beside opening a game and streaming whatever you want to play.

And the fact that IMMEDIATELY after her debut she just told sanalites to go fuck themselves and killed any sana reference, just shows how she never liked this "vtuber" stuff. Plus she blatantly lied about back hort. I'm sure management pushed her to debut , otherwise she would just keeping milking sanalites

>> No.38599044

>>38586661
She won the holo tournament with a meme team while aciviely gimping herself to the point she was straight up letting somone kill her boosted Drifblim when it could easily KO and win the game at that stage

>> No.38599164

>>38598123
Basically every space related idea got killed. One after she prepared it for 2 weeks only to get told day before the stream that she can't actully do it

>> No.38599175

>>38598640
I'm sure by "debut" you meant "graduate" otherwise that rambling made no sense.

>> No.38599549

>>38579077
>competent
>EN2
LMAO

>> No.38599570

>>38586000
Succeed.

>> No.38599720

>>38579165
She had to graduate due to an injury she got in an “Aussie Threesome” with Bae and Axel.

Which is actually getting shit faced while floating in inner tubes and then picking fist fights with Australian Wildlife. Unfortunately on Sana’s turn she thought she was just about to wrestle a Bunyip but realized too late it was Haachama.

>> No.38602421

>>38586399
>what she does she can only do in nijisanji
What does she even do other than play fps games and laugh?
If this is something about her collabing with males that clearly never stopped the holoEN girls either

>> No.38608394

>>38582046
I like this metaphor, also jannies are gay lol, if you're a mod and you see this
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>> No.38608458

>>38582942
:( I think u might be right anonchama

>> No.38608792

>>38581443
she was doomed to fail with her model lmao

>> No.38609633

Good riddance to someone who couldn't hack it. Rest of council overcame the sub cuts. Rest of council streamed.
Anyone who couldn't even last a year should never be celebrated.

>> No.38609805

>>38599044
>she beat beat casual players who didn't care about being sweaty competitive
Very impressive indeed.

>> No.38609846

>>38579077
Sana slot should be for purple dragon instead of dirty lazy pos.

>> No.38617338

>>38579077
>Now the dust has settled...what went wrong here?
Bad hiring made by incompetent recruiters

>> No.38618470

>>38608792
There was literally nothing wrong with her model

>> No.38619601

I wonder if Cover sent her the last batch of fan mail yet. I pulled every string I could find to get mine in before the deadline.

>> No.38620314

>>38586383
I mean, she works for gacha shit and loves her characters. Is it really a wonder that 90% of her tweets are retweeting fan art of them?
My rrat is that her work on Lost Epic is what messed up things between her and Cover and lead to her leaving. I don't think she's tweeted about it since it released. Then again, Ina didn't really tweet about the game she did art for either.

>> No.38623509

>>38581968
Every gacha ever?

>> No.38623556

>>38617338
GO, GURA, GO

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