/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No one calls it fanboyism here...

INDIE SUPREMACY FUCK THE CORPOS THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU TAKE THE INDIE PILL ANON BE SAVED FROM THE CORPOS

Fish

>>3845733
tourist clearly

>>3845682
>Both Holo EN and Niji EN are pretty quality as todays entertainment
Ogey

>NIJI BROS L-LETS STOP FIGHTING N-NOW
Oh no no holo bros looks like you got too cocky! Now the nijichads have *gasp* INVADED your holospam board! Not like this bros!

They're just seething because the catalog isn't 90% Hololive anymore

Go fuck yourself Nijifaggot

When Nijisanji was winning in Japan, you like to show off his huge your dick is, but when Holo is dominating, you suddenly want unity?

Go fuck yourselves.

Nijifaggots hate

>>3845755
Im not a tourist. Then what should it be called? From my perspective, its similar to console war except for Chink shilling.

>>3845845
Tribalism.

>>3845806
This tribalism is not only justified but is a right won by force

>>3845682
>Why cant you celebrate them and the actual quality diversity?
Yes. Holo is good, Niji is dogshit. That is quality diversity by definition and I am celebrating it.

>WHIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>Oh no not again!

>>3845682
"Diversity" sjw word! Fuck you!

>>3845806
>>3845860
>>3845905
Kill yourself right now

If you're expecting a board dominated by retarded EOPs and clip watchers to not be cancer I dunno what to tell you.

And yes, I'll never be Japanese.

>>3845682
Aloe.

>>3845952
Competition is what makes humanity advance! So kill yourself loser!

>>3845984
I'M GONNA AAAAAVVVVVEEEEEENNNNNGGEEEEEE

OH NO NO NO HOLOBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY! THE NIJI CHADS ARE DABBING ON US NOW!!!

>>3845682
>Both are not SJW woke garbage
Yet. We need to keep gatekeeping. I still don't trust Niji EN.
I don't like how Elira called waifus as "weirdchamp", considering her exposure she should at least be used to weebs by now. The only type of people I've seen who called waifus weird are SJWs and people undereducated about anime culture.

If there's anything here that would make me trust them, post it now. Up until then, I will be apprehensive towards them.

>>3846160
imagine simping for corpos

>>3846166
Pomu is based, it's the other 2 that I'm not entirely sure about yet...

>>3846166
>gatekeeping whores who are infinitely more based than you will ever be.

>>3846166
Elira mentioned shota in her latest stream, her old viewers said she was a shotacon, Pomu admitted to having played a JK incest nakige, and Finana said she wished she looked *younger* in her debut and was a lolicon in her past life, you are entirely too paranoid

It's sad that one of the few places on the Web where you can discuss VTubers is so infected with console war mentality that wasn't present 3 years ago during the OG VTuber era.

>>3845682
Tell that to Aloe

>>3846270
Ah yes, the CEO of Sex who couldn't handle being a liver.

>>3846256
Blame the Nijifaggots trying to act all high and mighty when Hololive were gaining traction in the West.

People just wanted to talk about Scatman and Band-aid, instead Holoniggers had to listen about how "Nijisanji is the better company because they're more successful in Japan"

>>3846249
>her old viewers said she was a shotacon
Sounds like a rrat to me and not proof. Just because she said shota doesn't mean she's a shotacon, she could be a hypocrite like Nyanners or Juniper, who knows.

>>3845682

"The gates are not broken when the enemies come bashing in, It is broken when the carpenter becomes complacent of the walls"

-Lao Tzu

ALWAYS GATEKEEP, the amount of newfags who keep coming here everyday is astounding, especially in the Ollie Yab Arc, it was a continuous cycle of denial, and acceptance

The timelooping was fking irritating, and barely any of them are assimilating, fking cringe ass niggers

>>3845682
Go back

>>3846335
Sounds like you're eager to believe she's some woke bitch for some reason. Even just saying loli and shota is taboo for woke types and she already said that much. She's friends with the other two girls who openly admit their more degenerate tendencies. If you're still unsure after that and you won't trust archive reps I'm not sure what you want.

>>3846256
When sora fucking first started and got her stream recommended by siro nijinegroes were calling her a leech. As she got more popular they started calling her a Kizuna Ai clone. Nijifags were always like this.

>>3846313
I wasn't around back then, but these days it seems to be holoniggers shitting up niji threads and not the other way around. I like holos, but god their fans are obnoxious on this board.

>>3846249
>>3846386
The reason why I'm not convinced is because it's not substantial enough. I'm not saying she is woke or anything, but it could be a precedent that she'd attract those types of people. You wouldn't be able to use any of those to tell an SJW to fuck off.

That's not proof, I'll give you examples:
>Pikamee and some HoloID fictional age preference
>Kana commissioned her own lewd loli artwork
>Gura referenced Uoh and C&F multiple times while also saying she's a lolibaba

Some guy saying she's a shotacon doesn't automatically mean it's true. We need more details about that.

HoloENfags attack their own harder than nijiniggers ever could. If they can't get along within their own tribe what makes you think they'll get along with another one?

>>3846480
It was this the other way around like a year ago on /jp/ when I first visited. They were even more obnoxious but now they don't have the numbers anymore. This is just holoniggers paying them back twofold. I guess it's well deserved. And don't worry when Holo has a yab the nijis will start coming out again so it's not like holo will forever dominate.

>>3846499
You're assuming they're all guilty until proven innocent by your arbitrary standards. Typical American. Wait a month and they'll all be fine. Or keep being a doomposter for no reason. If Pomu's taste in eroge doesn't filter SJWs then nothing will.

>>3846499
Forgot to add Gura and Ame also retweeted lewd loli artwork and I have screenshots.

>>3845682
Too fucking late.
I will forever hate Nijiniggers and Nijifaggots

If the faggots weren't acting mighty ever since the creation of Holo then maybe we'd have a Unity

I cant fucking wait until Vsingers or Gen2 comes out and triumph competitions while slowly getting recognized in JP , slowly ursurping Nijiniggers , the Nijifaggots seething will be glorious

>>3846539
When you are so big that no one else can compete I guess it's natural you fight amongst yourselves. Sorry you never had the experience of these numbers nijifaggot. Probably wasn't even on /jp/ when Niji would attack holos every day.

>>3845806
Based

>>3846619
Gura likely got baited by the first half of image due to cropping.

>>3846620
Oh and hey, I'll do you one better ever. Elira talked about her love for her senpais Meschers and Akina today. Akina is a self admitted shotacon who SJW Twitterfags hate. He makes it a big part of his character so there's no way she wouldn't know. So there's that.

>>3846660
Whatever the case, it was enough for SJWs to fuck off and that's all I want. (I tested it)

>>3846620
Yes they are all guilty. If they aren't contributing to maintaining the integrity of vtubers then they are destroying it.
Nekopara being Pomu's fave eroge made me gain half a trust for her since the H-scenes are tagged as loli, but I'm unsure about it's convincing power.

>>3846783
>Yes they are all guilty. If they aren't contributing to maintaining the integrity of vtubers then they are destroying it
If Elira talking about shota and how she loves an open shotacon senpai of hers, Pomu talking about incest and loli eroge, Finana talking about how she wishes she looked younger (and again, admitted to loving lolis in her past life) won't convince you of their trustworthiness you're more paranoid than a girlfriend who thinks her boyfriend is constantly looking at women behind her back.

>>3846344
>posts gura
seems like the gatekeeping has already failed

Funny how global cries about gatekeeping yet they're so quick to jump at spoonfeeding any tourist in their thread instead of telling them to lurk 100 years.
Accept it, /hlg/ did a much better job at gatekeeping. The moment you set foot on this board is the moment that was decided. You could've stayed behind. You retards chose this fate. Now EOP newfags are allowed to run rampant and plaster their shit everywhere. This board is literally no different from reddit.

I'm hoping Holo and Niji EN develop a decent history of collabs like what happens in Japan. They're a lot more similar to eachother than to most indies or other agencies and could collab with comparably less controversy than alternatives like Vshojo.

>>3846585
>And don't worry when Holo has a yab the nijis will start coming out again so it's not like holo will forever dominate
Bro, Hololive is playing safe as fuck nowadays(because to be honest, they don't need to risk anything to do better than the competitors), nothing is going to happen to them.
Meanwhile niji is literally dying right now. They lost Gibara and they're going to lose Lulu soon. The sharp declining in viewership plus the suspicious rebranding. It's clear as day that there's something wrong with the company.

>>3846160
keep going, i root for you, make this board a /v/ clone!

>>3846937
Nijiniggers always did the best job at gatekeeping and yet look at their reputation on this board. They're fucking hated. People pretend to like gatekeeping until it keeps them out.

>>3846937
I honestly felt like something was missing here and it was the sight of people telling others to lurk more. I remember when that was the only response you'd get, if any.

>>3846864
The thing here is that it's not about convincing me, it's about convincing a vtuber's potential audience and hence gatekeeping them when required.
Elira liking some shotacon senpai doesn't mean that she likes them because they like shotacon. I could make the case for that shotacon senpai of hers being trustworthy, but not her. Unless if she specifically mentions any of the shotas her shotacon senpai mentioned meaning she at least hinted about liking them then it wouldn't be substantial proof. There are SJWs out there who unironically think Gura's antilolicon despite Gura being a loli herself. The "proof" posted was enough for them to change their mind and go away, that's all I needed.

>>3846971
I smell bankruptcy is afoot

Tribal niggers need the rope.

It's too late for gatekeeping. Vtuber discussion on 4chan has been doomed since the HoloEN debut, We're all trapped in this hell world now.

>>3846997
>The thing here is that it's not about convincing me, it's about convincing a vtuber's potential audience and hence gatekeeping them when required
Which talking about sketchy eroge like Pomu does, Elira talking about her senpai that Twitterfags already tried and cancelled and Finana making her lolicon tendencies known will do, yes. Unless you want these girls to be Vshojo clones who talk about their fetishes every minute of every stream they're gonna have retarded fans. This is inevitable. Roberu talks about oneeshota every 5 seconds and yet he still has SJW anti-shota fans somehow because they're all clipniggers. Clipfags will always exist. The girls themselves are good and that is all you can hope for. Gatekeeping beyond that is unfortunately up to the fans.

>>3847041
When a whole board is dedicated to chuubas it's bound to happen. When it was still on /jp/ tourists were lost and tried to find chuubas on /a/

>>3845806
based

>>3846783
This is why we need to execute American scum

>>3847076
I just need a little bit more before I can fully trust Pomu. I need some Eroge with a Loli Heroine label at least or some sort of an age marker. SJWs could make up excuses that the females in Nekopara doesn't look loli enough and disregard the tags. It's not something that would convince them entirely. Incest is normie tier and have little power filtering SJWs.

>Elira talking about her senpai that Twitterfags already tried and cancelled
Still doesn't convince me about her though. Did she specifically talk about the event of her being cancelled? Do you know she even knows about any of that? We need proofs for that.

>Finana making her lolicon tendencies known will do, yes
Finana here is in the same position as Pomu. There are evidences that she liked loli in her past identities, but SJWs could still argue it's SFW and that she's an anti. We need something a little more substantial.

I'm trying to make foolproof/bulletproof evidences, that would immediately make any SJW go away upon seeing.

>>3846460
>When Sora fucking first started and get her stream recommended by Siro nijinegroes were calling her a leech
I'm not even a Nijinigger and am a Holofag until I die but this is absolute bullshit, lol. The event you are referring to (Siro/Sora) has gone down in vtuber lore as the "Christmas Miracle". This event happened in 2017. Nijisanji wasn't founded until 2018.

Unless we have time travelling Nijiniggers I don't know how they could have called Sora a leech before Nijisanji even existed dumbass.

>>3845806
based. fuck nijiniggers
representative of Japan my ass.

>>3845682
i can like whatever i like. suck it

How the fuck did this devolve into a talk about lolis and shotas?

>>3847303
Nijiniggers really have this fucker represent all of Japan for them?

>>3846937
If things were done right hololive EN discussion should’ve been banned and moved to /trash/ where they belong along with the rest of these western vtubers

>>3847317
Because it filters woke garbage 99% of the time. Compared to something like the N-word, which I'd reckon about 30% of the time.

guys i just wanna see mori and elira making music together
asmr breast massage together
ara ara together

pomu talking about otaku stuff with ina
pomu being a gremlin with ame

chimkin and fish getting together, ushering THE Final Yab

Is that too much to ask for?

>>3847244
Look man, if you want SJWs to feel unwelcome in Vtuber spaces you've got plenty of ammo as is. It seems like you care more about the fans than the talent which I think is the wrong fucking thing to focus on. Utako is a walking filter in Nijisanji alone, with her regular shota art review streams. If you actually, truly want this medium to remain mostly apolitical? You're gonna have SJW and leftist fans. It sucks! It does. But saying that these girls should specifically change their talent based around what they think will filter people of a certain ideology, or suggest talk about their fetishes more openly and all take the Utako approach - that's a bad fucking precedent to set. Pomu shouldn't have to talk about how many loli eroge she's played just to make SJWs seethe when she has other content she'd like to focus on. And SJWs hate incest porn, I have no idea what SJWs you've met that're okay with it but I've met none.

>>3845682
It's just bored zoomers shitposting. No one actually worships corporations here.

>>3847354
Based and Polkapilled.

Fuck V-Shoujo. That's the real enemy and none of you fuckers see it.

>>3847268
Sounds like this person has been fed some rrats. Yeah nijiniggers were always high and mighty but not that. It's even funnier now that they are calling for unity when back on jp Holos just wanted a place to talk about their chuubas.

>>3845682
Because console war faggotry has taken over. Its been like that since /jp/ only now its amplified.

>>3847347
This place was literally created because HoloEN was born.

>>3847354
The unity clown...

>poals confirm 3/4 of the posters in the nijien thread are globalfags branching out
>tribalist globaltard falseflags using nijien
>other globaltards think its nijiniggers getting uppity
>in reality nijiniggers are in /jp/ discussing their chuubas in their heavily moderated thread and nijimeido's sekrit discord
this isnt even a war between two fanbases. its a fucking civil war. crazy how none of you still havent realized it.

>>3847397
https://files.catbox.moe/yif1bp.mp4
This lies she says applies to Niji too. I think it's time we join forces Nijibros

>>3847467
>heavily moderated thread
Yikes.
And a civil war where the 2 sides fight against a common enemy? Nice.

>>3847467
And /hlg/?

>>3847354
A /jp/sie and an /a/utist oldfag getting together to talk about their otaku hobbies would be kino of the highest caliber.

>>3845682
OP-Chan I know you’re new so let me tell you instead of fanboyism we call them tribalniggers (it’s funnier that way)

>>3847372
> you've got plenty of ammo as is
I legit barely have any ammo for NijiEN. I do have a lot of ammo for NijiJP (Kenmochi Touya and Emma August).

>It seems like you care more about the fans than the talent
Because the fans massively affect the talent. And cultivating a healthy fanbase without SJWs is top priority.

>You're gonna have SJW
And I will keep filtering them with all efforts no matter what cost. Not an inch, not a centimeter nor a millimeter.

>Pomu shouldn't have to talk about
Yes she should. She should give people more reasons to trust her. She doesn't always have to do it, only doing it once would be enough.

> I have no idea what SJWs you've met
I've seen a few. There are the elusive ones that don't care about incest. Most likely they're clout chasers, but they still fall under that.


>>3847397
Have to deal with the closest ones first. That's a different can of worms.

>giving shit about community
Anyone with two brain cells who watched chuubas before big Holo boom in summer 2020 could see that that global EN releases will open gates of Gehenna filled with braindead /v/ like morons, it started with Holo EN and this is the result. How ironic that these very people that came with Holo EN debuts are now crying about muh gatekeeping when they are literally the same kind of breed.

Love talent, hate fandom. Simple as.

>>3847513
/hlg/ would rather watch nijis than indulge themselves with anything EN.

>>3847579
Vshojo fags like you with an unhealthy sjw community is why people hate your ilk lol

>>3847603
>implying I watch any kind of EN content
草

>>3847432
Yeah and it was clearly a mistake

>>3845806
Based and ESLpilled

>>3847595
I'd rather do this myself. I hate all of the EN girls except Ina

>>3845682
>Your not allowed to dislike what I like the post
Who's the fag now?

>>3845682
Nijisanji has repulsive male vtubers.
Hololive has beautiful pure idols.

Holo LOVE, Niji HATE....simple as

>>3847548
The only person who doesn't trust Pomu at this point is you man. She's mentioned playing 2 eroge with (fictional) underaged sex in it. She mentioned them positively. She owns this book which features underaged sex. https://twitter.com/pomurainpuff/status/1394138228899336192?s=21 Any actual SJW would get filtered by that. If they aren't they aren't real SJW and I question how you use the word. I shouldn't have to tell you why pushing for Vtubers to talk more about sexual content and their ideologies is a bad idea, but it is. The EN girls keep getting called whores by antis as is. It makes me sad that you want them to reduce their content to sheer lolicon pandering and anti-SJW shitting when they have so much more to offer.

>>3847595
I frequent /hlg/ everyday and I would rather hammer a rusty nail through my dick than watch Nijis. So it's safe to say I'd rather watch EN. Your statement is already proven false.

>>3845682
b-but consolewars
and /v/ tier shittery

>>3845682
>Both are not SJW woke garbage
Perhaps they want to keep their jobs and not be political with their personas. Maybe their bosses are Japanese who have their own very different issues. Just a thought.

>>3847728
You're not fooling anyone.

>>3847728
He took 2 posters from back in December and tried to pass it off as the entire sentiment of the place. What do you expect.

>>3846386
Hardcore, open SJWs are perfectly capable of being Shotacons anon (while calling lolicons scum). Does it make sense? Of course not, and I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it myself.

>>3845984
>>3846270
Triangle herself has put more blame on her shitty (ex-)dad than any harassment, stop bringing her up for your tribalist shitflinging.

>>3847789
Seriously

I have no idea how you can frequent /hlg/ and think that. Nijiniggers raid /hlg/ all the time and turn any discussion into shit which has fostered a strong distaste of Niji over there (obviously not with everybody but they are generally not accepted there). This is made even stronger because the Nijimeido does NOTHING to moderate the Nijinigger raids of /hlg/ yet bans you instantly if you try to go return the favor in the niji thread.

>>3847818
Doesn't change the fact they did harass her.

>>3847539
Im not new. I mainly watch Japanese vtubers in Japanese, both Holo and Niji and a few minor ones, and never watch translated clips. Watched Niji EN vtubers yesterday and they looked pretty quality to me. Theres actually no need to eat up each other, since the modern western entertainment is total garbage and cant recover due to woke cult, quality western contents like Holo EN and Niji EN are even precious.

>>3847809
>Hardcore, open SJWs are perfectly capable of being Shotacons
No, they are not. We clearly have different definitions of the word SJW if you believe that. Which makes this conversation futile and pointless. Just give the girls a fucking chance and don't insist they change their content to help promote your own politics easier. That makes you no better than a progressive in my eyes.

>>3847848
>>3847467
>heavily moderated
Makes so much sense now

>>3847629
you will never be Japanese.

>>3847851
If a Niji was shit talking Hololive then Holofans would attack them too. Stop acting like it doesn't go both ways.

>>3847851
No, but it does mean that people should stop bringing her into it. I don't care if people are petty shits about which corporation that will never care about them is better, but leave Aloe's name out of it.

>>3847851
you're not even subbed to her fanbox why do you still pretend to care?

>>3847913
Muh reparashuns

>>3847721
Where does it say it has underaged sex?
My guy, again it's more about filtering SJWs than mere arbitrary labels. SJWs can easily argue that gothic lolita is different from lolicon and SJWs could also make the Nyanners argument that she didn't know about them being underaged because 1) she didn't specifically mention it and 2) the way they present themselves as "not being loli enough". If she retweeted some loli doujinshi (even just the name) then everyone would be 200% convinced. Proofs with very little convincing power would be enough if they have the quantity. I really don't care about loli or shota pandering, if they filter SJWs in some other way like how Kiara filters SJWs with the N-word meme, then so be it. I'm against SJWs in every way. All I'm asking for is proof they could be trusted to gatekeep SJWs away from the fanbase.

>Any actual SJW would get filtered by that
Nah, retards who won't pry any further and believe your bs would be. But it's not a bulletproof argument.


>The EN girls keep getting called whores by antis as is
Legit no one cares about them, if you think they don't call their own JP vtubers whores as well then you're a massive newfag that need to go back. Antis will be antis and they are the least of the concerns.

>>3845806
https://youtu.be/EV78exDFWrQ

>>3847548
>They need to talk about how much they love cunny on stream or I can't trust them.
You're insane.
Like, I'd love for them to do it because I'd find it funny and all, but acting like it's an obligation is full schizo

>>3847883
When has that happened? holofags never gave a fuck about nijis enough to even watch them

>>3845806
HOLY FUCKING BASED POG MOMENT

>>3847883
Hasn't happened though has it

I'll stop hating Niji when they personally bring back that one nousagi that they doxxed and harassed into literally deleting their Twitter because they sent a moderately emotional SC. Pekora was so pissed about she bit that bait live on stream and talked about how pissed it made her.
You fuckers have harassed both talents and their fans.
Fuck off.

>>3847978
>acting like it's an obligation is full schizo
>filtering bad actors in your fanbase who argue in bad faith and make the communtiy toxic is full schizo
Ogey

>>3848004
>>3848009
Veibai talk shit about hololive as a whole and the worst we do is to try and gatekeep collab between her and kiara. No way in hell holofans would do something like drive chuba to retirement. Nijifags however.. are known to have a fucking mini civil war between 2 menheras

>>3847950
>I don't care that she talked about eroge/nsfw doujinshi on stream, if she doesn't retweet it out it doesn't count

Listen to yourself

>>3847950
>If she retweeted some loli doujinshi (even just the name) then everyone would be 200% convinced
>I really don't care about loli or shota pandering
Do you read what you write?
This conversation is tiring. I give you proof and you keep asking for more. I'll let you feel like you won I guess, in a month when their fanbases are fine and none of the girls have tranny-pandered you'll realize this was all needless paranoia. Pomu, Elira and Finana are all good girls. If you want to gatekeep the SJWs that inevitably trickle their way in call them niggers or spam loli porn at them or something. At the end of the day gatekeeping is just about making people feel unwelcome in a community and there are many ways to do this, like you're attempting to do by calling me a newfag right now. Like "hey, that opinion is Reddit tier you newfag, go back". Just keep that shit up and don't ask for the girls to help push your ideology, it's too annoying to see you be so paranoid towards an old /jp/sie like Pomu as is. You can reply to try to sell your paranoia to the rest of the thread if you want but I'm going to bed.

>>3847883
its mostly idol related (males). This guy got burned https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36809134

>>3848084
Believing those 2 things are the same somehow is full schizo, yes.

>>3847818
And the reason kusodad flew off the handle was because the constant phone calls from autistic nijiniggers.

You are not getting scot-free from this and are never gonna live it down, nijifags.

>>3846585
>It was this the other way around like a year ago on /jp/ when I first visited.
As someone who never gave a fuck about the 2hu board but had been visiting the vtuber thread since 2017, there really wasn't so much a Nijisanji vs Hololive conflict but more like a oldfag vs newfag conflict with the latter mostly (entirely, really) being Hololive fans. There also definitely wasn't anything I would call a number advantage for the former especially once Hololive gen4 debuted.

>>3848099
No, you don't get what I meant by that. Loli/Shota pandering isn't the top priority. It would be nice they do that but filtering SJWs comes as a first. I don't care about that as much as I care about gatekeeping. If they can gatekeep fine without loli then that's nice. But in Pomu's case you're implying she's a lolicon and yes she could very much be, but the thing is I'm looking for a much more substantial evidence that she is. I'm not shitting on her, I'm merely saying she has half of my trust. And yes, gatekeeping is making antis who will fuck up the social harmony and integrity of your community be unwelcome. The proofs aren't something to spam about, it's just ammo for a rainy day whenever some SJW retard tries to press the issue and subvert the community, like what happened to many other communities.

>>3847950
>its another episode of /vpol/ getting mad at the scenario he just made up inside his mind
what's new?

There is no Nijisanji vs Hololive on this board. It's all holofags larping as Nijis to get (You)s. And you fall for it every time. This board is just for containing HoloEN after they leaked onto every other board.

>>3847950
meds

>>3848199
Two things
1. What if they just don't mind loli instead of being full on lolicons? Do they still need to talk about it? Because if so then that's retarded.
2. We've already seen someone even bigger than them in EOP spaces go full lolicon with Pikamee, and you know what happened? Almost nothing. I see people learn about it and freak out at least once a week, but it didn't "filter the SJWs" or whatever on any appreciable scale.

>>3848106
hololive fans will look away from this and pretend it never happened because he's male

>>3848132
Why do you think it's not real when it's already happened multiple times?

>>3848429
Not what I said. SJWs coming in and ruining a community is real, but acting like talking about loli is "filtering bad actors" instead of just mentioning a fetish that happens to be controversial is still schizo shit.

>>3848423
Because telling a guy off on twitter isn't the same as doxxing and calling that person's homes is it?

>>3848413
>What if they just don't mind
Then they will have to justify themselves being trustworthy by other means.

>>3848462
It's only ever controversial if you're around SJW retards. People who think that way and badmouth it deserve to get filtered. Most of the Holo fanbase are pretty ok and even share Gura hentai in a lot of places. You wouldn't be able to say same with the Vshojo fanbase, and they deserve to be cleaned up.

>>3848087
rumao thats because your power level doesnt match the autism of an average nip. let's see what happens if pekora or rushia starts talking to a japan whoretuber

>>3848413
>see people learn about it and freak out at least once a week, but it didn't "filter the SJWs"
That's what you think. But you are dead wrong about that. You don't understand the impact of how influence works on social circles.

>>3848538
>It's only ever controversial if you're around SJW retards.
WHO it's controversial with wasn't the point. The point was that talking about loli isn't some grand anti-SJW statement, it's just talking about a fetish. If someone talks about NTR they'll filter out half the obnoxious redditors and twitter fags out there, but that still doesn't make it any more than them showing off their degeneracy.

>>3848570
If it ever happens. Can't imagine most of Hololive ever thinking of doing it, they don't need to ever get out of Hololive's influence.

>>3848538
>Then they will have to justify themselves being trustworthy by other means
judging by this conversation you take lolishota as the only reliable means of judging if a chuuba is """trustworthy""" so you'll need to elaborate on what this would hypothetically entail short of them shoving their politics into their streams

hololive bad fanbase power level.
https://note.com/20200506/n/n406b0de953ff

5 star in details
https://note.com/lai_v1223/n/nc36dbfeb64d8

>>3848655
>talking about loli isn't some grand anti-SJW statement
Yes it is. It filters 99% of them. I have never seen some dramafag SJW who unironically supports that. I know for a fact Hololive did its charm with that, but a lot of smaller ENvtuber circles are toxic as always because they don't have a filter like that.

>>3848692
>you'll need to elaborate on what this would hypothetically entail
There are many different factors that would constitute to making a chuuba trustworthy. It ranges from their dedication and understanding of the vtubing/anime fanbase, to their connections/social circles, and their tastes and preferences of certain topics, etc. Influence works like an infection, your opinions can get shaped by the type of people around you and hence "infected", most people would rather go with their crowd so if you have an unhealthy fanbase then you will be affected as well.

>>3848794
>It ranges from their dedication and understanding of the vtubing/anime fanbase, to their connections/social circles, and their tastes and preferences of certain topics, etc
so you should trust pomu already because she fits all of this criteria, she met ZUN so it's not as if she's just a casual, but then again you'd know that if you actually watched streams and you weren't relying on half this thread to spoonfeed you information you're too lazy to research yourself

>>3848759
Nijifags are so desperate they are using notes from people that are vtuber antis in general. They are shitting you on there too. Holy shit.

>>3846937
Honestly. For the first couple of weeks it was like that somewhat. Kind of a lost cause now though. Any time I tell someone to lurk, sure as clockwork, there's some faggot next to me spoonfeeding.
It's over.

>>3847869
>No, they are not. We clearly have different definitions of the word SJW if you believe that.
Shut the fuck up and ask for examples before you decide that. Look up Noralities, and go ahead and tell me that isn't an SJW.

>>3848759
Using niji JP fans that are dedicated to shitting holos to prove the point that holos are bad? Spicy take.

>>3845682
>quality
Indies have better quality nowadays. Corporate vtubers are dead

>>3848838
I mean I do trust her myself, but I can't trust her gatekeeping the fanbase (yet) and thus she gets half of my trust in total. I don't have much ammo to use apart from some incest eroge and some gothic lolita book, when confronted by an SJW. I don't like the fact that the "proof" that I use isn't perfect. I would have to compensate with narratives and tangents about her specific interests because we don't have enough data.
Don't think I didn't do the same for Hololive because I also did. Trust is meant to be earned and it's not given. I'm sure over time I would be able to completely trust her, yes that's possible.

> Both are not SJzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>3848948

I mean I do trust her myself, but I can't trust her gatezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>3845682
Post this a year ago on /jp/ and nijis will laugh at you then.

>>3848947
post your quality indie here and we can make fun of her numbers together

>>3848948
>I don't have much ammo to use apart from some incest eroge and some gothic lolita book, when confronted by an SJW
so yeah it all comes back to the fact that you want every vtuber to be an open lolicon or shotacon, their other interests or talents don't matter and you clearly can't trust them until they talk about cunny, that's retarded

>>3849008
lmao they will still laugh at you. /jp/ nijifags and the nijifags here aren't the same group of people

>>3849041
No, read my posts earlier.
Loli/shota would be one of the fastest ways for them to gain my trust. But there plenty of other ways to do it as well.

>>3849059
Tribalism was always present even on /jp/. It's just that they have oldfags on both sides that stop it before it gets too far. When this board was created everything broke containment

>>3847595
They were talking about Gura stream there last thread, please stop lying

>>3848759
Use the term "livers" gee i wonder who wrote this.

>>3849127
retard from your posting style i can already tell you're the fag who comes into these threads posting "w-wow guys the meme shark is actually fun" while seeking validation. kill yourself. EN will never be welcomed in /hlg/

>>3849154
This nigga really trying to say holo JP fans are shit by using a Niji JP fan that's a dedicated hololive anti? Literally dig their own holes.

>>3849194
I was just lurking, faggot. Not a single post from that thread was mine.

>>3849194
They literally hated EN so much hlgg was created just to have a place to talk about the EN.

>>3847303
He's literally right. Aloe talked shit on chitose and shared contract info from Cover. She didn't deserve what she got but she was completely in the wrong.

>>3848004
>>3848677
>>3848009
It hasn't happened because no Nijisanji has any situation similar to aloe where they share things from hololive like that, or contracts from nijisanji. I'll bet with you that if Mito talked about Rushia or some shit, her crazy jp fans would try to cancel her. Nijifags only have it in JP because they were on this situation. I want to see what jp holofags will do when they are on the other side, don't forget how they attacked a lot of fujoshi and shit on the doujin situation...

>>3849041
>>3848838
>>3848794
If I haven't made myself clear enough, I'll elaborate even further. Naturally I will be judging based on:
Interaction: Who have they ignored and who have they interacted with
Dedication: How focused and experienced are they when it comes to a certain topic and what are the odds of it being a niche to an SJW?
Affiliation: What group of people are they always with or prefer? What kind communities have they been in?
Tolerance: What kind of topics do they tolerate or discuss and how do they deal with it? Which do they avoid?

For the most part it should all add up to a sum of the kind of audience they will try to attract and pander. The more SJW-accepted the topics they present are, then the less trust there will be.

The thing with Pomu is that while she's ticking all the right boxes, but it's a bit too early to tell. SJWs have penetrated far into anime that some "eroge lovers" can be labelled as SJWs as well, but then again most of those only play EVNs. Anything is possible and it's a matter of deductive reasoning.

>>3849352
The fact they sperged out for a clip they got from a doxx that was way before she ever came into contact with hololive makes them retarded regardless. It wasn't something she said as Aloe so they basically admitted to intentionally doxxing her to dig up dirt.

>>3847766
Omnion?!

>>3847880
I'm not that guy but I am Japanese.

>>3845806
Remember what they did to Aloe every day

>>3848087
if you just wait nijis bully themselves into graduation anyway so it's not like hololive fans need to go on the offensive

>>3849481
Nullpo.

>>3849431
>t if Mito talked about Rushia or some shit,

she did and she casually pressured rushia though its called 圧 in japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNYFmUfIGWk

>t, her crazy jp fans would try to cancel her.

never happened. rushia was also absolutely threatened by siro. shit is beyond acting. pure horror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-xs7viO_CY

>>3849431
When did this turn into aloe talking shit about chitose. She repeated a rrat that her doxxers were the ones that caused her to graduate. She was actively concerned about doxxing in the industry and only used chitose rrat as example. She didn't actively go online and decide to randomly shit talk chitose. Hololive didn't have anyone graduate before her (besides Chris who was terminated and didn't have any fans), so there would naturally be no Niji talking about a Hololive graduation. And during Fujo arc, JP holofags didn't do shit. They just stayed behind and supported mikochi and marine while schizos here were talking about attacking fujos while only like 5 of them actually did anything.

>>3849520
Mito is a big bully desu.

>>3849520
And their graduates will join Holo.

>>3849564
luna is such a great streamer, imagine fumbling her

>>3848794
You know, the funny thing is that if I agreed with you that talking about loli was some statement I'd want them to avoid it at all costs. I'm against politics in vtubers, and that's all politics not just ones I agree with.
Good thing I know that's retarded and talking about loli is just being a garden variety degenerate.

>>3849573
>Luna
>great streamer.
Her previous avatar didn't suit her voice and mannerism and she was not popular back then. And she had history of changing characters and company many times.

>>3849618
Makes me wonder if Luna is still content with her current character, or she isn’t but feels obligated to stick with it because she’s essentially reached the “endgame” of vtubing (Hololive)

>>3845682
reasonable people would agree with you
but this board is filled with retards

>>3849602
>I'm against politics in vtubers
If you're actually against all politics then you should just quit while you're ahead. One of the official definitions of politics is
> the total complex of relations between people living in society
and you avoiding loli because you think its political basically means that you would avoid most story based video games, movies, shows or whatever book. There is a difference between political statements and gatekeeping. Saying you like loli won't immediately make you a right winger or a left winger, it would actually even filter all the people who would be the one shoehorning you into those political categories in your fanbase.

>>3849618
moruru was a good vtuber but she probably wanted to do tee-tee shit more so she moved to holo. niji doesnt do yuri-like or "girl-friendship" type communications so much.

>>3849683
she unironically enjoys her antics if you watch every single one of her stream. She sounds like she's having so much fun everyday.

>>3849546
We know that Miko and Marine fans attacked fujos and the artist due to that incident. That's why they had to ask for them to not attaack them anymore.

as for chitose, the problem with aloe is how she took rrats from 5ch and began to talk as if it was a fact.

>>3849525
faggot, those situations are both clearly a joke and banter. I'm talking about a situation like with aloe.

Based

>>3849938
vtubers only make a joke an banter. the fuck is the "aloe" situation. why does she have anything to do with nijisanji. why are you bringing rushia all of sudden.

seems you dont even know actual relationships between niji jp vtubers and holo jp vtubers.

>>3849877
>this much of a history revisionism
The fucking fujo artist and her fujoshits attacked Miko and Marine first because they slightly mentioned her book (which they both love) and the artist got butthurt because fujoshits are fucking mentally ill. Of course Holofans retaliated after the fujoshits attacked them for no reason.

>>3849739
>"Everything is political" nigger
Kill yourself

>>3849969

>>3845806
Nijiniggers playing the unitycard when their ego got fucked. Bunch of faggot

>>3850063'
>i'm retarded
Nigger, "political" is an ambiguous multi-faceted word. Telling people to kys won't change the truth about that. If you hate modern politics then just say so, but don't contradict yourself with your own bullshit.

>>3850045
son, my point is that in a hypothetical situation, if a niji shitalked a holo like aloe did, this could happen. Holo has tons of gachikois

.>>3850047
It isn't revisionism. I never said it wasn't without reason, but they attacked all of them a lot. So it's not like japs are some saints, which is clear when you look at 2ch/5ch anyway.

>>3845806
ESL and underage.

I enjoy both. Used to be a holo-only guy but I recently discovered how awesome Nijisanji is too. You haters on both sides are no match for my all-encompassing love.

>>3850047
The #1 rule of being a fujo is to not talk about fujo art in an identifiable manner. It's a fantasy most companies aren't comfortable acknolwdging so the community tries very hard to stay under the radar.
They didn't deserve the heat, but they were certainly being newfags

>>3850205
Seethe

>>3849444
>>3849352
teenage girl not allowed to be a menhera
basically if aloe deserves to be retired, 90% of niji talents deserve the same
but nijiniggers aren't fair judges, so they'll never admit it

>>3847136
I agree. We wouldn't be having this shitty victim complex (sjw) woke culture without those retards.

>>3850232
This is true, fujos get pissed at other fujos in Jap communities if they make R18 works visible in a way that official staff could see. I've seen hate accounts for specific artists that do it. The first rule of fujo fight club is not to talk about fujo fight club.

>>3850306
which is why the fujos haven't done shit to marine or miko because everything was overblown by antis (chinese and nijiniggers) to try and damage hololive

>>3850245
Have sex.

>>3850138
>"political" is an ambiguous multi-faceted word
No fucking shit you Dunning Kreuger mongoloid. Do you honestly think you don't sound like a negative IQ chimpanzee when someone says "I don't want politics in X" and you reply with, "HEUEHEU BUT ACKSHUALLY IT IS ALREADY POLITICALL SNOOOORT!!!"
Believe you me, I can also play the downs patient and write you essays about why the way I take a shit is actually political, but I'm capable of basic logical reasoning and can tell that people obviously mean a certain thing when they say the word "political". They aren't asking you to bring out a fucking dictionary and jamlock the conversation with meaningless bullshit.
You're the kind of sperg that would scream "fag" from the rooftops irl and wonder why people get get pissed when you "just meant a bundle of sticks!"

>>3850189
niji had their own issues around sasaki. you seem to be a know-it-all retarded eop. also what im saying is that your hypothetical situation is ridiculous as fuck. such thing never ever happened cause holo jp and niji jp has never had a conflict. you just dont know it or dont want to acknowledge the fact. and now pretending like you are still making a point.

you just want to rile up each fanbase like a console war faggot or a dumb sjw journo.

>>3850364
yikes
not him but meds, pls

>>3850364

>You're the kind of sperg that would scream "fag" from the rooftops irl and wonder why people get get pissed when you "just meant a bundle of sticks!"
False equivalence. You were the one making statements you're underqualified to talk about. You tried to conflate the meaning of "politics" under a different context. Games, movies, books or lolis aren't political by the standard definition, but you made it seem as if they are based on your implications. Even I can acknowledge that they aren't inherently political based on the consensus.

>>3850499
is a chocoball political

>>3849739
>and you avoiding loli because you think its political
I said that I know loli ISN'T a political statement. Learn to read, faggot.

>>3850210
Based Sora-poster

>>3850553
Learn to comprehend then and read what you posted.
>if I agreed with you
>>if

Though that being said it's a grammatical error on my part and it should've been "you'd" instead of "you"

>>3850388
Sorry anon, you there are browser extensions that censor out mean words for your convenience.
>You were the one making statements you're underqualified to talk about. You tried to conflate the meaning of "politics" under a different context.
Nah, while I did read your entire exchange with that guy, I only responded to and hopped on for>>3849739

>She still didn't apologize

This is my 5th warning to Takanashi Kiara

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>Thicc Pussy lips

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>>3848759
Based, Holocorns are cancer wahtever they are from, be it or worldwide

>>3850553
But then again that doesn't change the fact that you implied that loli was a political statement, even if that's not what you agreed with in the end. And so I just responded in accord to refute that.

>>3850627
Don't be like that anon, Kiara is for ridiculing, not doxing. Don't be that guy

>>3850627
i don't get this
it's just cosplay shit

>>3850627
Do holofags really?

>>3850517
your mom is a chocoball

>>3850763
wtf no shes not

>>3850627

>>3850627
i've begun to hate holofags so much that i'm reluctant to report this

>>3850499
Half of
>>3850618
was meant for you

reminder that tribalists are newfag retards who would rather listen to their brain tumor and antagonize companies instead of actually supporting, understanding and expanding the hobby they like.

>>3850957
Nah. If anythying, anti-tribalists are the newfags. Tribalism has lessened over time here

>>3850980

hello newfag...

I just wanna see more collabs between both companies, man
It'll definitely never happen but sometimes I wonder what it would be like if Polka could hang out and have fun with her two best friends onscreen too

>>3850980
pretty much.

>>3850996
What does a newfag get from calling other people newfags? You yourself know you can't possibly know what you claim to know.

>>3851015
If niji gets popular, it will happen, I think when the nijiEN girls get to 200k subs, holoEN will probadly horn some collab

>>3850957
It's not even a newfag thing, it's an amerifat thing. Mutts try to fill the gap that is their lack of identity by basing it around undying loyalism to their favorite brand. /v/ is the primary example of this and now it's leaking over here. This is all results of vtubing becoming more and more mainstream in the west, just like this anon suggests >>3849111 the creation of this board was the final nail in the coffin that resulted with the tribalfag invasion.

>>3851142
I think he meant Roberu and Hayato who Polka can't collab with since they're males

>>3851110

"Tribalism has lessened over time" is bullshit, because it didnt fucking exist when vtubers where only one goddamn thread in /jp/ which all it did was talking about kizuna, shiro, kaguya and slow emerging chuubas, you could not have niji vs holo wars because nijis and holos where just being formed back then.

the tribalism began slightly when holoive debut 3rd gen and gamers, (by then thread split into 3 being holo, niji and the rest, with a few attempts at others but really small and slow) and even then it was absolutely minuscular, im talking like 1 guy who was barely even angry, then it intensified when gen 4 debut and actual newfags came (moruru/luna was all the justification they needed to raid niji threads), Im calling you a newfag because you think "tribalism lessened" but that is your perspective because it wasnt an issue in the first place until hololive brought all the newfags to /jp/.

and lastly, you think tribalism has lessened? /vt/ is an absolute dumpsterfire of chaos are you fucking blind? I know most generals only have 1 or 2 schizos who make them look bad but thinking there is less tribalism here compared to the old /jp/ days is insane.

>>3850957
Majority of tribalists here are usually just glory hunters

>>3851015
Polka, Roberu, Hayato collab
IMAGINE

>>3845682
>quality
Kek. Also, go back.

>>3845682
>today I will remind them

>>3846971
>they're going to lose Lulu soon
Did I miss something?

>>3851710
I wish you retards put more effort into reminding people her fanbox exists than spam the board with AROE RABU everyday.

>>3851728
no, he only said gibara and lulu because those two are the only nijis he can name.

The most ironic thing in this tribalism shit is, nijifags usually called holofags "holoSEAniggers, holoEoP" etc. yet nijisanji fandom has 95% SEAniggers more than other region. Also most of them browse 4chan, so take a guess where these elitist mindset come from

>>3851733
>implying those retard is even Delutaya fan not just retard who just using her name to stir shit
They have become the exact kind of person that harmed Delutaya.

>>3849772
>niji doesnt do yuri-like or "girl-friendship" type communications so much
Hello?

>>3851733
>fanbox
ah yes, lets give money to this menhera whos done 3 streams and quitted

>>3851880
Exactly what I meant. Don't pretend like you care. The ones who do are already following her.

>>3851842
Tomoe and Sukoya don't count. They are literally lesbos who will marry someday.

>>3851904
>don't pretend like you care
huh what part of:
>"ah yes, lets give money to this menhera whos done 3 streams and quitted"
made you think I cared, saviorfag?

>>3851728
They cancelled her sponsored radio show and made her do new outfit stream. Basically tying up the loose ends before she geaduate, just like Gibara. Doing new outfit stream out of nowhere before geaduating happened many times in Nijisanji by the way.

>>3846480
can confirm the almighty nijifags before holo blown up, it's rough

Nijis are shit because they make fun of their viewers.

>>3851502
I think post ID like 2chan and 5ch would rid of samefagging falseflag problem

Bring social justice to Hololive and Nijisanji!

>>3851833
>They have become the exact kind of person that harmed Delutaya.
Pretty much this. You may think that shitflinging on 4chan has no consequences, but what all of this tribalism and blind hatred does is that it makes the actual nutcases, the kinds of people who would doxx and harass the talents themselves, feel welcome. It makes them feel justified for doing the awful things they do, because they feel like they have a cause to fight for, a group that approves of their actions. It's normal to feel anger and resentment for what antis did to Aloe, or say that you refuse to watch Nijisanji as a result. But that doesn't justify trying to get revenge or payback by encouraging shitting on an entire fanbase. That just means you're becoming the thing you hate.

t. hololive fan who got shat on by shitty nijiniggers before, got into nijisanji recently and now has to deal with shitty holoniggers

>>3852331
your post is so riddled with falseflagging that not even you could tell what`s real and what`s fake anymore

>>3852331
>who got shat on by shitty nijiniggers before, got into nijisanji recently and now has to deal with shitty holoniggers
>nijiniggers
>holoniggers
Because it's just the same /v/ tribalist faggots, they don't care about niji or holo or watch them. You fell for falseflag faggots bait and hate something doesn't even exist

>>3845682
Agreed with you. Look at the ID market. Both HoloID and NijiID can coexists in peace, the same as their fans, sometimes even the fandom are overlapping, no tribalism. The fans are always encouraging collabs between them, no one bringing up numbers or some idiotic things.

>>3846937
gatekeeping when the fan subscriber base reach millions is a delusion, and this board is mostly composed of underage zoomers from r/hololive, because of their needy nature they are so eager to spoonfeed

>>3849436
You fucking freak of nature. Just watch the cartoon girl play vidya until you're bored and then go do something else. Do you also grade the Mcdonald's cashier with a four-part scorecard?

Seriously, get help, this shit is supposed to be enjoyable.

>>3848759
>https://note.com/20200506/n/n406b0de953ff
>結果的にホロライブの民度をかなり下げてしまっている。
>TL - However, as a result, the popularity of Hololive has dropped considerably.
>Article 2020/05/17 03:53
Writen exactly a year ago, when hololive had less than1/10 the suscriber base it has now.
I would be really embarrased to post this shit to proof something, congrats anon you are a shameless bastard.

>>3851937
I wasn't specifically talking about you, retard.

>>3849618
>>3849683
Don't talk shit about Luna if you don't know nothing, she quited Nijisanji because the fans there are toxic as fuck, Tachibana is a well hated guy known in 5ch because he discussed with her in twitter and caused her graduation, and later when the Roa - Meiro feud started, in her roomate twitter account implied that her previous workplace was full of hypocrites and liars, so fuck you nijisanji is already owakon and going down, and they deserve it

>>3852435
> the same as their fans.
Lmao anon

>>3853209
>Tachibana
Who is he?

>>3853209
lol you shit schizo doesn't even know she went throught one or two indie life before joining holo, take your med

>Wanting /vt/ to not act like feral fanboys
Good luck with that

>>3847427
Literally isn't true. Aside from a few resident spergs noone had issues with that, especially when collabs between Nijis and Holos were more frequent back then. That changed mainly with newfag waves and mostly Aloe drama.

>>3853969
you don't speak japanese and are desperate to defend a shitty company, all you know is second hand translated by toxic nijifaggots
>doesn't even know she went throught one or two indie life before joining holo
it is you fucking ignorant that doesn't know she never left her old accounts and still streams paywalled content in her roomate account

>>3853209
>because the fans there are toxic as fuck,

some of her viewers might be actually trash but the rest is just a speculation. i mean a japanese rrat.

>>3845806
They hated him because his spoke the truth

>>3855329
>but the rest is just a speculation
i used to be part of that fanbase, and it was similar to /vt, all of the former tomoruru and now Luknights are glad (and she herself) that she reincarnated in hololive.

>>3849436
based

>>3856080
i know a bit about it since im also a fan of luna, but she could ignore that twatter tard since he was just a meddler, wasnt like a chink insect going after you endlessly. my guess is that ichikara back then or maybe now too didnt have a professional code of conduct to guide and protect their vtubers, because they treat their vtubers like independent ones unlike holo. it doesnt mean ichicara is less professional than cover. cover definitely has more strict rules instead. their business directions are just different, and ichikara just didnt probably fit her.

>>3857815
>could ignore
*couldve ignored

>>3857815
Luna doesn't have the same mental fortitude as Coco, and regarding what you say about Ichikara, is part of the niji culture to being aggresive n the chat, and have a level of sarcasm between the liver and the fans, you may think that is fine, but many times it devolves and cross the line mutually, it becomes awkward and affects the enjoyment of the stream, at some point Pekora streams was becoming like that, right before she became popular with the overseas audience, there were a lot of trolls, there are tons of clips like that.
Even now, reading the chat of Chihiro playing Apex and all the trolls is sad, or lately in Honma streams people telling her how unpopuiar she has become and doesn't have numbers, or that the females there are just accesories to the males, not all are like that some smaller fanbases are more civilized like in the case with Rena, but it seems more of an exception.

>>3845682
t. newfag

>>3845806
>intentionally holding an hostile position just because
You and all your kind are what makes 4chan the shithole it is today. Kindly commit seppuku.

>>3845682
>Nijiniggers shit on holos back in JP
>Holo coin moons
>Nijiniggers want unity
Naaa fuck you.

>>3859121
>>3847467

>>3855199
What roomate? she had billion of roommate accounts and abandoned channel, you fucking clown can only trick EOP retards, I have seen your schizo's narrative shits for more than three years now, take you med

>>3845682
Western whores need to be reined in by idol culture. Hololive is the only company providing that experience. If I wanted to experience your average 3DPD roastie in my free time, I could walk outside of my apartment any time.

>>3845806
Also this, Nijiniggers are insufferable. From their numberfagging in the early days to claiming they were the superior yamato damashii nihon vtubing experience, everything came tumbling down for them before their eyes. Karma does exist I guess.

>>3847303
Never forgive, never forget.

>>3845806
I'll never forgive nijiggers

>>3845806
based

Ina > Pomu > Ame > Gura = Elira > Mori > SHIT > Finana = Kiara

Fuck tribalism, but also fuck unity. There are good and shit vtubers in both companies

>there are fucking /vt/ clippers out there
jpbros are laughing at us...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ9oQC0Uo74

>>3845806
Literally the opposite
Holoniggers constantly begged for collabs with Niji when they were triple digit viewer andys and Niji were kind enough to collab with them but now that they're sucking on the globaltard teat they want nothing to do with Niji and pretend they never existed

>>3861663
>there are fucking /vt/ clippers out there
This reminds me of that jp dude who make translated /a/ thread to post on his blogspot.

Pomu LOVE!

>>3845733
Okay, there's no need for faggotry here.

>>3861808
She exudes the same energy as out priestess. Pomutakodachi LOVE!

>>3861814
The word you're actually looking for is tribalism. With this knowledge I armed you with I wish you luck newfriend.

>>3861879
It's the same shit everywhere.
>American politics
>Israel/palestine
>chinks/gooks
until the end of time

>>3861771
It reminds me of pony thread simulator.

>>3845806
Niji fans are one of the worst faggots on the internet, they don't even watch nijis, they just love to suck company's cock harder than most Americans

>>3861718
This is true but you can't expect this board to know anything that happened before 2020. I don't even have a problem with leeching but the way Hololive cut off everyone else after getting big was shameless.

>>3862566
I'm an EOP who barely watches Nijis but the blatant newfaggotry and disrespect this board has for them is honestly disgusting.
There wouldn't even be a hololive without nijisanji

>>3862605
This board was made in 2021 by (and for) people who got into vtubers through Hololive in early 2020 (most even later, when the translated clips started blowing up). It's illogical to expect anything else. This is literally /holo/.

>>3861879
This is human nature

>>3861964
i feel like all those examples actually want to fight

for what it's worth, i don't think pekora is going to slap kuzuha in front of mito or anything like that

>>3845733
no, we call it tribalfags

>>3861771
the old /vyt/ used to have jap bro who translated it on his blog

>>3861718
Nice headcanon, bro. The holos that collabed with back then Niji still do.

inb4 that dogtuber that collabed with Miko once 3 years ago and is claiming now that she was BFFs with her and is now begging to collab again because she's literally dying and doesn't earn enough to pay the medical bills.

Corporate loyalty is gay
watch the chuubas that interest you

>>3845682
>>>/pol/

>>3845682
>Both Holo EN and Niji EN are pretty quality
Eh, Niji EN not quite yet.
I'll check up on them in a month and see if their chuubas adapted to the new environment yet

>>3860353
I'll never miss my dear CEO of SEX even if she's overall ogey nowadays.

I will never forgive nijishits for what happened to Aloe

>>3845806

>>3845806
Fpbp nijiniggers can eat shit after allying with the fucking zhangs

>>3851281
>it's an amerifat thing
5ch 2ch

Tribalism is good because I wouldn't want these retarded tribalist kiddies watching my oshi anyways

>>3859096
>just because
Because you faggots are legitimately terrible people, and we want nothing to do with you.

>>3861663
Imagine clipping things posted on this site lmao

>>3852635
Welcome to 4chan you absolute fucking newfag

People here aren't filthy casuals like you

>>3861718
That's a complaint about the companies. Ours is about Niji fans, not Nijitubers.

>>3845806
Holy mother of absolutely based

>>3845682
>fanboyism
where the actual fuck did you come from??

>>3849436
Pretty based

>>3849436
>>3867248
it wouldn't surprise me if Yagoo used the same criteria to cherrypick its talents
it's definitely probably more meticulous than that guy

>>3862605
>There wouldn't even be a hololive without nijisanji
>this is what nijifags actually believe
Retard. If anything, it was the Christmas miracle that saved hololive.

>>3851015
I'm still just waiting for the Polka and Tamaki stream. Where the FUCK is it Cover?

>>3845806
SEETHING HOLOTRANNY
GO AHEAD CALL THE JANNY TO PROTECT YOUR SAFESPACE, HE CAN'T FIX THOSE COPES BRO

>>3875045
fuck off falseflagger