/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

remember to love your Mori

I'm in love with my moon princess

>checking the schedule for the next stream
>it's night time NA
>way after my shift at that
Feels good man, whether it's Pokemon or a Chatting stream I'll be looking forward to it.

Morbi toes…

I feel like Mori likes this song the most because she relates to the sin of wrath the most. She herself has an interesting relationship with spite and has said that that she channels her emotions into her music. The way she describes wrath here, as an anger that is wanting of recompense, is how some of that songwriting must be. She WANTS something to come out of the anger she feels and rather than just be angry she crates an outlet for it where she can scream and spit much as she wants. Its good that she recognizes this too and finds enjoyment and love in the song making process which replaces the usual emptiness that acting out of wrath usually leaves.

>>38478407

>>38478802
based Pomp making ordinary deadbeats into degenerate footniggers like me

>>38478213
uhhh... deadbeat, its morning NA, check again

>>38478969
It's true. I was never a footfag, but something about those socks woke my brain. The texture, the smell, the warmth, the Squishies....

>>38479375
Stop don’t do this to me…

I'm like 10 minutes in to the P5 vod from today and it's amazing how much of a difference having her meds makes

I woke up 2 hours into the P5 stream and figured it’s fine I’ll get a proper nights sleep and watch the VoD later, woke up 3 hours later and she was still going

>>38479606
She was still reeling a bit. She was still pretty loopy, but it was cute. I'm mostly just happy she's safe, for lack of a better word

>>38479375
sex with the morbo's to's

>>38477981
Previous thread: >>38458275

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>>38479795
Honestly pretty rude to drink all the homemade wine that shit takes a while

https://twitter.com/yuuta0o/status/1600145976383406081

>>38478969
I only like her feet and only hers no one else's

I think Lui and Mori should kiss

>>38481009
I think they should do something soon man

morbi fingies

>>38481849

>>38481849

Mori sounds like she's been wrestling with some serious concerns lately. The way our judgment, or what she imagines our judgement is, can determine who someone is, and what self value they have... it's always a disturbing thought.

Hope the answers she's found being her some solace.

>>38482441
Mori HATES Deadbeats impressions they have of her

>>38478407

>>38482441
end of the year is a time to summarize and reflect, and she raised some big hype and made some impressive resolutions at the start of the year
she lived up to some and heavily surpassed a couple, but had some of her some most punishing missteps too
most of all, it's probably weighting on her that people are being looked down on for supporting her, and a lot of it related back to not being able to handle her emotions in the moment

>>38479606
There's a massive difference with her being Mori as well. Too many of you overlook that. It's not being fake, I view it as liberating.

>>38483712
Of the official resolutions she put out, very few have been kept.

>>38483712
I just hope she doesnt feel too much pressure on our account to commodity herself. What she imagines we want seems to be more lewd and controlling than it actually is. Not to mention the numberfagging

>>38483702
kimono toes = sex

>>38483729
I'd imagine she views it as exhausting sometimes

>>38484286
She is absolutely numberfagging herself and has been for months now. I believe in the money problems rrat. I don't know how or why but it's the only thing that makes sense with how she's suddenly all about numbers.

>>38484286
>What she imagines we want seems to be more lewd and controlling than it actually is. Not to mention the numberfagging
when she gets most of her feedback from /vt/ this is not surprising in the least.

>>38483786
She did pretty well with these overall, although some of them like 3D she probably knew about already. She totally fucked up on the scheduling/learning to say no, though

>>38484450
I don't think so, at least not the stream side of things. Maybe the 3 am meetings and other hololive things. But I think she views the mask as liberating, not being her boring self but instead a chunii reaper babe who is funny and cool. I think she has more fun being Mori than being herself and I think it comes across in the streams as well.

>>38484550
The important ones that she has control over, and that she wouldn't have already know about for months like album and 3D, she has failed at.

>>38484643
ogey

>>38484474
My man, she's talked about it several times on stream already, you don't need to make assumptions. She's doing a job where numbers are important whether we want to say it out loud or not, so she's going to take notice when her stuff isn't doing as good as it once was. She doesn't want numbers to drive her creative decisions, but she can't help but notice them and get self conscious over whether people actually like her anymore. One of the reasons why Nezumi Scheme doing numbers is good, is that fans still actually do like when things are authentically hers, and done in her style.

>>38484550
Happy Chaos...

>>38484474
>I don't know how or why but it's the only thing that makes sense with how she's suddenly all about numbers.
It might just be because YouTube's just built to make creators think about the numbers. It'll get to anyone eventually. You click on YouTube studio and even before you hit analytics it's giving you numbers with comparisons to your previous content and whether it's doing well or poorly in comparison.

>>38484550
>Jump King top 100 speedrunner
Nope
>Become 3D
Done that (with two models even)
>Do a 3D live concert
Done that
>Meet everyone IRL in Japan
Maybe this month but probably not
>2 million subscribers
Check
>Release an album
About to release two even
>Release a nendoroid of me
Was never going to be planned and released in a single year, so this is technically done even if it's not out yet
>Sing an OP to game or anime
Fingers crossed but not happening this year
>Teach English to JP Holomem
Kinda? Lui picked up a lot from her
>Master Happy Chaos
BWAHAHAHAHAHA no
>Original songs with all of Myth
Next year definitely
>Original song with IRyS
Unless Chadcast song suddenly drops this month it'll have to wait for next year
>Rap collab with Holomem
Check, thanks to the Sheep
>Collab with Stars more
Sure it's technically done just not JP Stars, but she never specified anyway
>Guilty Gear Tournament
Nope
>Kinder scheduling for myself
Depends on how she sees it, she's more open to delaying streams but she's also streamed a lot
>Don't over do it
Failed spectacularly
>Do a charity stream
Nope

>>38484550
Jump King Top 100 speedrunner - failed and becoming more impossible than ever as the top 100 are actually filling up with amazing times as the game became more popular
Become 3D -she already knew this was confirmed at that point
Do a 3D live concert - knew about holofes, maybe knew about Soloconcert, maybe not
Meet everyone IRL in Japan - not under her control
2 Million subscribers - not under her control, simple math would have put it early in the year
Release an album - already knew about Unalive, had been working on it for months
Release a nendoroid - not under her control
Sing an OP to a game or anime - not under her control
Teach English to JP holo - succeeded
Master Happy Chaos - Failed
Original songs with all of Myth - not fully under her control, she's doing her part that she can
Original song with Irys - not under either's control sadly
Rap collab with HoloMem - Not fully under her control, Reaper vs Sheep should count
Collab with the Stars more - succeeded but not JP stars
Guilty Gear tournament - failed
Kinder scheduling for myself - failed
Don't over do it - failed
Do a charity stream - failed

The ones under her control and that matter she's failed at. Nobody really cares there wasn't a Guilty gear tournament, but everyone cares that she's fucking up her schedule more than ever now, and planning on fucked up worse and worse on a continual basis.

>>38484939
It's not really doing numbers though, not like year 1, not at all.

>>38484939
>One of the reasons why Nezumi Scheme doing numbers is good,
Something tells me that Nezumi, Wanted, Wasted..., and Dance past Midnight (the Amalee song) will do the best out of Sinderella

>>38485200
She did meet everyone IRL though it just wasn’t in Japan.

>>38485200
>>Kinder scheduling for myself
29, 30....

>>38485245
Ogey

>>38485354
I think glass slipper might end up pulling it off, its looking like one of "her more mellow and introspective songs" genre. It might not recapture the EOAL magic but it might get close.

Also I am liking what I hear of soul food, it basically sounds like what Mera Mera is (shallow but catchy "potato chip" song) but I actually like it where as I didn't have a great first impression of Mera and never really grew on me

>>38485245
>Do a charity stream - failed
that one is also not under her control

>>38485200
I would call eikaiwa a win on the "teach EN to JP" front, she got through almost everyone who replied to her tweet about it (even if personally I'm sad Botan never went on), realistically properly teaching English was never in the cards
She met all of Myth and all of Council minus Sana, even if it wasn't in Japan, so I would call that mostly fulfilled.
Besides not overworking herself the charity stream is the only thing I would call a big miss. Then again if anything her scheduling went in the opposite direction

>>38485771
How is it not under her control?

>>38485918
That's perms up the wazoo

>>38485918
She's talked about it before but of course she can't just pick any old thing. Her whole gimmick is that she's a grim reaper, can't exactly go around raising money for dying children while going "haha murder death kills." That and of course anything would also have to go through Cover.

>>38486050
No it isn't. Not any worse than certain games streams. You set it up and then do random shit for a few hours while people donate. If it was a priority to her it could have happened.

>>38486115
Nigger, you need permission for who you're going to be donating to.

>>38486115
There's more succinct ways to say you just don't watch streams man

>>38486115
Retarded not even a threadreader

>>38486096
You can do whatever you want, I've seen "charity" streams on twitch that were talking about sex the whole time raising money for kids in hospitals. It's not the content. Sure there's a joke there but the charities just care about getting the money.

>>38485280
No one is doing as well as even the start of the year aside from a couple outlier songs.

>>38486153
>>38486164
>>38486166
And you get it if you care about doing it. Its not been something she's cared enough about.

>>38486206
>Mori didn't get Atlus permissions for two years because she didn't care enough

>>38486186
Those streamers don't work for an extremely cautious Japanese company

>>38486248
You're not going to be limited to a single charity like Atlus games are limited to a single company, not a good comparison point.

You guys have been bending your brains into knots to try and shit on her lately

>>38486332
She doesn't care about the kids anon. If she truly cared she wouldn't reap them in the first place.

>>38485200
The orginal songs with myth and IRyS were only held up by UMG and the charity stream is held up by Cover and the Guilty Gear tourney is basically impossible with the way perms for for that game. so you can't really put those on her. The
>Don't over do it
Is what she failed spectacularly at .

>>38486332
It's the same for both sides here. She could have accomplished a charity stream if she cared about it. She and the girls pushed for pokemon perms every day, do you think she did the same for a charity stream?

>>38486409
>She and the girls pushed for pokemon perms every day
Did they? Pretty sure those just come with the Nico Nico Pokémon tournament the JP side gets sponsored to do.

>>38486471
Mori said on stream that she and the other girls were daily reminding about pokemon perms in some discord perm channel.

>>38486409
It's kind of crazy how the hill you're dying on is "I know more than the girls do about it works,"

>>38486510
They were asking for updates on if they have perms, not asking them to ask for perms So they could schedule shit. It was 100% up to teh Nico Nico thing like every other time they got pokemon perms.

>>38486548
I didn't say that. I said "She could have accomplished this resolution if she cared about it." She did not make it a priority this year. It was cared about as much as a jojo twitterspace or other Mori promise. Something that chat reminds her of and then is forgotten during the walk to wash her hands after the stream immediately.

>>38486332
The gaslighters are desperate I guess since Mori gave two nice long streams recently and actual deadbeats are fairly content.

>>38486660
The last time it came up was in like May, dude

>>38486660
If only Mori worried more about the legal implications of collecting thousands of dollars from thousands of people that would ostensibly be donated to a charity for dying kids or old people or cancer and made sure it actually got there what a fucking bitch

>>38486847
Because of chat bringing it up, she's forgotten it. Not something she cares about.
I don't care either but it's a failed resolution that's on her, not something she has no control over like whether someone picks one of her songs to become an anime OP or whether Cover lets Irys sing a song with her.

>>38486948

>>38483729
Dawg, I'm just talking about the difference between the SC reading stream a few days ago and how she was today.

Looking at Bae's streams playing persona, I'm still convinced the english dub is a debuff, especially if she plays it at night when her JP audience is awake.

>>38487618
The JPBeats are a sacrifice I'm willing to make

>>38487618
I like all the EN voices so I don't care

>>38487618
Clearly, the solution here is to play the game with JP text but EN dub

>>38487618
I don't see a basis for this. Personally glad she came around to the dub, but I'm fine either way.

>>38487618
They're getting pretty similar viewership

>>38487618
No way. The gain in EN watching because they can 2nd screen it is more than the loss of JP that are only no watching because the VAs are English. She speaks english only in streams. And she has more brainpower due to not being distracted doing any translating.

>>38487816
But she's not translating when the text is in English.

>>38487925
Not all the shouts and background noises are subtitled.

>>38487816
Yeah I don't understand this take. Any JP that got filtered by this would've got filtered by the fact that Mori usually just speaks english. Or would have fallen off after two or three streams anyway.

>>38487816
Doesn't yt not count views if you second screen it? So she literally gains nothing? Besides she wouldn't be translating, the only things not translated are some of the background voices, shadow mumbling, and the movies but that japanese is so simple even I can understand.

So does Mori actually ship Ann and Yusuke?

>>38487618
Some of the translations also suck, like Ann calling her friend stupid for "letting" the Kamoshida stuff happen

>>38488026
It's hours watched that matters, not live views. It still counts for hours watched.

>>38488053
She better not because I ship Ann and Ryuji

>>38488053
If she does, it's only to piss people off. Pretty sure she mentioned it just to see chat freak out

Someone mentioned during the maid ASMR she hummed a part of resting power? can someone give a timestamp.

>>38488192
https://youtu.be/ht2mxtYtZlQ?t=5241

>>38488053
I hope not. I think Yusuke and Futaba deserve each other's autism.

>>38488228
Fuck it was during that last part that I cannot stand. My loss then.

>>38488278
Honestly, this. I would ship those two before Ann and Yusuke.

>>38488053
Why would she ship Ann and Yurameshi?

>>38488094
Yeah so of those lines are really awkward in the dub.

>>38488374
Who else is she gonna ship him with? Koenma?

I hope Mori runs into Tanaka in her playthrough. I was gutted when I found out I missed him the first time.

>>38488374
Ahhhhh Urameshi that was a cheap shot last time

>>38488374
The ending of YYH is garbo btw

>>38488671
I like the fact that yusuke looks the same while keiko doesnt. Technically that makes him a shota king.

Someone needs to inform Mori

THEY ARE
https://twitter.com/LeeandLie/status/1600316006236200960

>>38488304
>Fuck it was during that last part that I cannot stand.
??

>>38489418
The lotion ear rubbing shit. It's just as terrible as ear licking ASMR.

>>38489290
I felt pretty proud of myself the other day when I managed to do all my laundry, clean my room, and cook a meal for myself.

>>38489475
Amalee...

>>38488053
I hope not, because I ship Yusuke x Me

>>38489637
Fembeat?

>>38489290
I have reverse seasonal depression somehow, I become so much happier when it's rainy and overcast n shit. I fucking hate sunny weather, or maybe I also just like the holiday season

>>38488751
I find it baffling that Mori has never seen YYH. Its full of things she loves (delinquents with hearts of gold, edgy short kings, handsome fox boys of questionably furry-ness) Also she would get a kick out of the dub.

It always surprises me how long it takes to reach some of the confidants in p5R. For example I'm 25 hours in and still haven't met Hifumi.

>>38489837
That's the most insulting thing I've been called all week

>>38488053
I wish she wouldn't since I ship Yusuke and Haru

>>38490133
You know this got me thinking. What if Mori made a stream with all her shittiest ships and she has to defend them.

>>38490205
I wouldn't watch. I just hate shippers

>>38490205
That's just CHaDcast

>>38489844
The worst part is that unless she has a friend who's a huge YYH fan, she'll never get around to watching it.
Smile Bomb karaoke onegai...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IDTNHRXhXY

>>38489290
White girls who throw around the word depression when they feel sad in any way

>>38490635
and i think that's beautiful

Is it possible to drop every chuuba and just go 100% mori? Anyone here only watch her?

>>38490857
Yes it is certainly possible to only watch one vtuber if you choose too.

>>38490857
Nah that's no fun

>>38490946
88

>>38490857
If I didn't have the other girls, I probably would've gone schizo long ago

>>38491015
All of the soundposts using the original file are broken. I only went back and repaired this one.

>>38490857
Plenty of people only watch their oshi anon.

Has the P5 playthrough been any good?

>>38491300
It's been fun.

>>38491300
ye

>>38491300
idk how it's going to be 60 hours from now but it's okay so far

>>38491300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q1WDOTHwuc&t=5910s
Yeah

https://twitter.com/um_store_jp/status/1600309120053166082?s=46&t=mrH5DMMTctssOg9iBUhzOw

>>38491300
Yes very. It can get a little slow during the dungeon crawling, but the benefit to being a vodbeat is that you can just skip forward a bit during those parts if you want.

>>38490125
Hit dogs holler

I think Mori should play rainworld! Because it's my favorite game and it doesn't get the love it deserves ;-;

>>38487618
>I'm still convinced the english dub is a debuff,
They have similar numbers
The "debuff" you're seeing a byproduct of her insistence on streaming on at ass o' clock in the morning were the majority of her audience is either asleep or at work/school

>>38491300
Is the game any good?

>>38492119
It's damn good

Uuuuh debbies, is the universe converging?

Finishing the half of the vod I missed, but looking to go back and clarify some things I missed too. Whereabouts did she talk about the music project she's doing for her birthday?

>>38490857
Sorry I'm a whore

>>38492550
https://youtu.be/6q1WDOTHwuc?t=1650

>>38492504
Man I should just go get some wagyu one day. I've wasted money on dumber things.

>>38491015
Watching different chuubas helps satisfy my different needs. Life feels more balanced this way.
I get my fill of gfe from Miori

>>38492840
It's fine. I've found I prefer food that's made into something creative or unique rather than high-quality expensive food.

What is Mori's foot/shoe size? I found a glass slipper

>>38492997
Men's 9

>>38492997
She hasn't said, but I'd guess women's 9 going by American sizes.

>>38492997
Ask "Morbi toes..." poster

Morbi kisses...

>>38493496
>the mark on the hipbone
UUUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>38492650
>digital only
I was thinking that Cover could probably make bank if it made an effort to get everyone's originals on CD/Vinyl. I get they already do that for talents that put together EP/LPs, but there's a lot of one off originals that only seem to only exist online.

>>38492650
That 2nd 3D outfit hat is definitely coming

>>38493496
Where did you get this picture of us?

>>38493496
Based on how small the skull is and how wide the hip bones are, this may actually be a FemBeat skeleton

S: Dress, Kimono, Q, NUO, Sinderella
A: Reaper, Rapper, OWTH, Bully, CapSule
B: end of a life, TGRiaLS, low-poly school uniform, Nurse, Halloween, RvS
C: Scuffed Up Age, Baddest

I find myself subconsciously humming a different one of the Sinderella previews every day, I think Mori was right with that last tweet. This will be an amazing album all around

>>38494926
SS+: Ope

>>38494963
I'm genuinely excited about everything but Greedy. But, hey, not liking one song on an album isn't a huge deal, happens all the time.

>>38494926
What about Getcha?

>>38495115
What about Getcha? I forgot. I'd give it a B

>>38494926
What about Beat Eater?

>>38495256
I've never seen any fanart of it showing the backside, so B

>>38495256
More like Meat Beater am I right

>>38495183
I still blast Getcha almost every day on my way to work.

>>38495256
NTA but Beat Eater is low-S for me. We just need more art of it

>>38495058
I just remember that I'm Greedy" wasn't for us, it was just to get other people to check the album out later.

has she ever smelled bad

>>38495058
greedy is one of her best songs. Its catchy and sticks out

>>38495704
idk I question the soundness of a plan that is trying to get somebody to listen by using something that is a 180 of literally everything else she has put out before and after it. It is highly doubtful that Mori will go back to the IG style unless UMG forces her to so people who came looking for that will end up disappointed and leave making it a wash except that one number.

>>38495875
I'm glad there's some Mori music for everyone.

>>38495931
I'm not! Mori and her music should be for me and me alone.

>>38495903
I think the point was not to get a whole bunch of those people to buy it or become deadbeats, but to just get them to try something different. The way the album is set up I think there are going to be a few songs for everyone and hopefully that's enough for them to throw a few songs on their playlist or even buy the album.

>>38495988
Mohgbeat…

I love how all the shitting on people who had Mori on their spotify wrapped on twitter managed to do was increase her listeners by 20k on the platform lol.

>>38496420
I think it has more to do with NS, but that probally actually does help. I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of the ones who talk shit listen to some of her songs, but can't admit it in front of their "twitter followers"

Speaking of Sinderella, so I know Mori is worried (I can't think of a better word) about the album doing well and all which makes sense...but who are we kidding? SN did amazing. Between the people who will buy Mori's music no matter what and the new fans from SN, Sinderella is basically guaranteed to knock it out of the park as well.

>>38496420
>>38496572
The spotity stats exposing Mori antis' friends as Mori listeners was the best part of the spotify stats

>>38496572
I could be incorrect because I’m not sure if there’s a way to check, but I’m pretty sure she’s at her highest monthly listener count ever on there right now.

>>38496772
If that's the case that youtube view and algorithm change at the start of summer REALLY did a number on her music views.

>>38496734
SN was a great album overall, but the good ones in there are criminally underrated. Kamofladge and Make Em Afraid were my favorites but it was sorta promoted as the Mera Mera album.

The rose petals really complete the look

>>38496894
>but it was sorta promoted as the Mera Mera album.
Huh...you make a very good point. Mentally I just think of SN as the Mera Mera & HS album.

>>38496868
She’s at about 452k right now, has anyone seen it higher?

>>38496763
I wonder how many of them were shown that super old song they tried pass off as new music by their anti friends, but had enough agency to check out her music themselves and actually liked the newer stuff.

>>38497066
There are sites that archive that stuff, but every one that gave more than 30 days historical data wanted money.

>>38497066
>has anyone seen it higher
the correct phrasing is "can we get much higher"

>>38497139
The only points of reference I have is my own memory observations and her tweet from February
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1494328161492156429

https://twitter.com/Mikururun/status/1600332804830601216

>>38497480

>>38497642
Like I said over there, it was fun while it lasted

>>38497642
Still a shame

>>38497636
number go up number go up number go up number go up number go up number go up number go up

I’m greatly enjoying these little mini dives into the track themes on the album on her community tab. Mori is a great writer and we rarely get to see it outside of songs.

i love cheese

>Mori talking about her friend that's a "Stacy" that moonlights as an anime fan
Reminds me of the times I'd head to a army base with my dad cause he needs to do paperwork and there will be US military men with cubicles with literally every inch covered in anime posters. I'm surprised they let them do stuff like that.

>>38498236
Guess you gotta let folks indulge in their interest still or else they start freaking out. As long as you look presentable.

>>38497980
She loves nerding out about music and seemed really excited that Team Calli were encouraging her to do a lyric dive

I already have all my marriage papers ready, all I need is for her to sign. Scanning my letter from Mori to get her signature, brb

>>38496763
can I get the lore here? I don't follow twitter drama but this sounds really funny

All of us are mere children in the face of the strongest deadbeat
https://twitter.com/nanasi5550/status/1600361070471716864?s=46&t=X9Px94Gx_ioA3WvQ6eTBQw

>>38498584
Shame that he was forced to become a doxxbeat from Mori deprivation in October

I'm hoping for a TakaMori day on the Advent calendar at least one day

I'm going hard on that Counterside game tomorrow, I need my animated Mori tits

>pretty heavy conversation about her regrets about wishing she put out a song she was more proud of than RIP when the Myth Perfect Storm of Hype was a thing
>Mori points out a "sniff sniff feet" comment to close out that section
I thought it was a little ironic she had the barely contained foot fetish assets on display for such a heavy subject. I do think she aught to heed the advice of not taking it too seriously. In the long run, I believe people which much more prefer the authenticity of an artistic endeavor rather than cynical number crunching.

>>38499303
She's set to make great money for the foreseeable future and her music quality/voice has only been improving based off Sinderella previews. "Big number go up on YT" really shouldn't be the be-all end-all for how she feels about how she's doing

>>38499303
>I thought it was a little ironic she had the barely contained foot fetish assets on display for such a heavy subject.
I think she just hits Start Stream and then lets her mouth run

>>38499480
I blame EN management for not Striking the iron while it was hot. Instead of deferring to Muh JP senpai, they should've prioritized making Hololive a well-known brand in the international scene.

Having them collab with people like Tech reviewers or Entertainment viewers would've been instrumental in expanding their reach.

>>38499303
She didn’t understand what she was getting into in the beginning, and I don’t think she understood how good she had it for a long time. The decline of vtubers in the west in general seems to have given her a lot of perspective.

>third verse of Taste of Death might make you blush
>don't expect a spicy song overall
>also getting a 2D MV
Personally I'm not a guy who likes the real over the top ecchi stuff so this is right up my alley.

I think you guys are overthinking it again

>>38499750
I’m not sure that’s possible since Mori also has a tendency to overthink everything.

>>38499750
I just like Mori and think the rest of this month will be great

Has western vtubing really declined or is it just holoEN?

>>38499685
Yeah, all of Myth got tons of fans out of the gate despite being rookies but they kind of "skipped" a bunch of streaming lessons they would have learned with a slower, more "organic" growth.

>>38499663
We could have had Linus Tech Tips episode

>>38499750
I try not to think

Have 4chan numberfags really declined or is it just /vt/ numberfags?

>Supa stream came out a three days ago according to YT
>Mori only just learned that the Stone Ocean part 3/finale came out then
>Mori had finished it already in the stream today
Damn Mori really was seriously binging. No meds is one hell of a drug.

>>38499840
The market is ever-expanding, streamers deciding to just slap on a model to ride a wave, people going back to their jobs with soul-crushing hours slaving away in the rat race
It's too late at night for me to bother giving a full analysis breakdown

>>38499967
Seems like it suffered fad status

>>38499958
That gamer drink is going to fuck her up just as badly as Bang did. Seems like sleepless nights are creeping back in

>Mori didn't know that the Western meaning of gokkun was a hentai tag
serious maiden behavior going on here from ya boy

>>38499840
Idk. At the very least the viewable holoEN audience seems to be capped at around 30k these days.

>>38500048
Mori probably never learned how to get passed the panda

>>38500048
Do you think she ever asked for a facial during one of her spa days?

>>38500048
timestamp?

>>38499840
NijiEN has had its share of slow going lately just like HoloEN and there is no telling if its new wave will be another Iluna in terms of numbers. I don't really pay attention to Vshojo or the smaller corpos so I don't know how they are doing.

>>38500110
They have their own special problems of just constantly fucking pumping out chuubas and letting them sink or swim
They're debuting ANOTHER wave after one just came out like three months ago or so

>Mori talking about how while Wanted Waster is about Gachiukta, it's also about a sentiment of how she feels like she's treated as a thing that can be used and then thrown away
Mori heel turn is here and I'm very much excited for (on that song that is)

>>38500165
Dang that reminds me, I can’t believe after pumping out like 40 songs this year Mori has finally realized there’s an over-saturation problem. I just can’t keep up with giving each song the attention it deserves when she has a release pace nearing a song a week.

>>38499303
>pretty heavy conversation about her regrets about wishing she put out a song she was more proud of than RIP when the Myth Perfect Storm of Hype was a thing
Timestamp? I've fallen behind on Mori's streams recently due to irl stuff.

>>38498736
He was one back in march.

>>38500203
The sentiment seemed a bit weird considering the recording she was complaining about doing ended up being her best

>>38500203
Well... to put it bluntly, entertainment is meant to be pump and dumped. I hope she realizes this if she wants to pursue further stuff in entertainment, and especially in the music and va biz where they are often viewed as disposable unless your name specifically used for promotional tie-ins like Ado and Chris Pratt

>>38497691
A campaign dying out with no real fanfare is the most authentic TTRPG experience.

>>38500317
If I was suddenly summoned back to the other side of the world immediately after starting my vacation I'd be irritated too

>>38500341
The VA stuff is potentially the worst for her. She could sink days into something just to be denied or have nothing used

>>38500373
>Vacation
She had already planned to be back to streaming by then. She was literally only upset because she thought it would make her miss TwitchCon

>>38500442
ogey

>>38500289
It's in the Supa Reading stream that came out recently

>>38500203
>Mori heel turn
>Kiara and Gura collab where Kiara asks Gura why there has been so few Bonebros collabs
>Gura says nothing is wrong and Bonebros are stronger than ever
>Out comes Mori
>She kicks Gura in the head and throws her through the Holotalk window

>>38500460
you know what she truly intentions are, cope

>Mori is expecting certain segments of the internet to hate her internet song
At a certain point I have to respect the brashness of it lmao

>>38500341
>entertainment is meant to be pump and dumped
maybe from an economic pov but people don't become creatives because they view art like that, and the anger at that concept has fuelled so many great things

>>38500493
Seeing that Kiara didn’t want to visit Gura’s chat because of chumbuds makes me think Mori is avoiding it for the same reason. Though tbf I already thought that, I’m just surprised Kiara confirmed it.

>>38500584
>he doesn't get the reference
ngmi

>>38500566
The "streaming musician" position also allows her to really connect with her fanbase and develop investment in her

>>38500565
She is gonna drop lyrics about the four leaf clover

>>38500064
You don’t need to unless you want to read stuff with ‘forbidden’ tags.

>>38500566
Modern showbiz is all economics and profiting with very little regard to the art or artist. UMG is a great example.

>>38500635
Well, she is a shotacon after all

>>38500442
Streaming is considered free time in her mind, which is why she’s not as refined at it compared to some members who see it as their biggest aspect of success.

>>38500565
YFW she directly attacks twitter trannies and black twitter.

>>38500707
>It's a Kanye collab

>Mori has apparently been doingYoutube Music Weekend since its inception
Wild to think about. Also there was a lot more in this stream that I had missed than I thought. The perils of waking up late lmao.

>>38500843
The persona stream? Yeah she was pretty chatty. Meds working well fr fr

>>38500887
I want to set up an experiment where I leave her unmedicated in a test chamber and see how she fares

>>38500287
>Dang that reminds me, I can’t believe after pumping out like 40 songs this year Mori has finally realized there’s an over-saturation problem
Do you have time stamp for this?
I'm glad she's finally come to conclusion tho I hope she puts it into a consideration
She been kinda bummed her new stuff isn't doing as well as the old stuff but it's painfully obvious the reason for that is UMG has putting out TOO much stuff in short period

>>38500909
See the chadcast stream for that. she didn't have them for atleast 4 days by then.

>>38500909
You'd come back to find the lyrics to a new EP carved into the walls with a sharpened spoon and a halfassed attempt to Shawshank her way out.

>>38500939
Based on her description, miscommunication was a big factor in everything. Hopefully she either works on her Japanese comprehension a bit or tells J-Chad to ask for clarification at meetings

>>38500967
this reminds me of that picture of a yellow crate saying "DO NOT OPEN" with a hole dug around the back

>>38500909
She develops a truly split personality, Mori and Ope

>>38501010

>>38500995
I don't believe UMJ doesn't have a single JP-EN translator that could translate stuff sent to her. They MUST have to communicate with UMG proper somehow

>>38500287
Based on how she described it, this is how she's felt for some time, as she's done the research and presented it to UMG in the past. If I had to guess, at least as far back as her talking about how she wasn't sure if she'd be getting a break after the album released, meaning a couple months.

>>38500909
unmedicated Takamori sex....

>>38501034
It's only Intern-chan who posted the gokkun tweet

>>38501029
Really wish someone had just put a bullet in the back of its head

>>38501029
get back inside, demon

>>38501065
Fuck, ask Kiara or fucking Axel even since he is fluent for a translation if J-chad is too retarded.

>>38501077
Honestly it needs to happen

>>38501077
Edgy

>>38501077

>>38500995
I think Mori may have to unironically either get a 2nd manger or replace J-chad, too many of these strange mishaps only seem to happen to her

>>38501130
Yeah, even the girls who know basically 0 japanese somehow don't have issues with getting info from the JPs

>>38501092
IRyS seems to basically be her best friend in Japan at this point (based off the tea invites). Just ask her for some clarification honestly

>>38501130
She needs a holo manager, a music manager, and a cute asian girl willing to be her assistant for daily things like shopping and meds

>>38501034
What the fuck is jchad for…

>>38501152
yeah IRyS would probally be a better idea, I forgot about her for a second. Although I might question her Kanji memorization lol.

>>38501168
It used to be music contacts.

>>38501092
>>38501152
She's not going to bother her friends for translating work documents (which might be NDA-sensitive), guys

>>38501099
It's the equivalent of rabies, you got kill what gave it to you to find out if you need the cure

>>38501226
nigga shut up

>>38501226
>>38500585

>>38501206
Even worse, a jealous IRyS may even look to sabotage her career this is a rrat please don't take seriously

>>38501206
Then she needs to constantly bother J-chad until she gets a translation before she responds to anything.

>>38500341
There's also the fact that she won't be Mori Calliope forever. And once it's over she can never acknowledge it again, this is all very time limited and a one and done situation that's unique to her and other corporate Vtubers.
Other artists might also have their songs owned by a label or company, but at least they can say they made it themselves. Mori won't be able to do that once she's gone.

>>38501206
Considering IRyS seemed oddly aware of Mori's "lean" incident during CHaDcast, I think Mori shares a lot with her already

>>38501270
Mori has been telling IRyS I'm mad at her for not playing RE 0...

>>38501270
Yeah, Mori must of explained that to her. No way she knew what lean was.

>>38501206
Yeah honestly "hey IRyS can you help me turn my really idiomatic english into japanese" is an ask I don't think Mori would want to put out there.

>>38501265
I will buy Mori from Cover and gift it to her

>>38500939
I don't remember where exactly but she mentioned it twice by now. She agrees and chat was surprisingly open in telling her they need time to digest her music. I imagine getting real feedback and coming to an agreement helped give her the confidence to ask for a break from UMG music for a bit.

>>38501265
She's not barred from saying who she was after hololive. Kson talked about it several times.

>>38501265
I really wonder how her contract is set up. I get kind of sad thinking about how years from now when things are done, or if she ever leaves she won’t have the rights to any of the songs she made as Mori, and there’s so many.

>>38501265
I'd argue that Mori is less corporate than her other stuff at this point. She's not obligated to shill anything when she starts up a Mori stream

>>38501270
I wonder if she was serious when she said "I don't want to get fired" when she mentioned the lean incident again. I know Japan has a staunch anti-drug view and I've always wondered if they had to seriously question her whether she was abusing cough medicine.
Pretty funny to imagine she had to take a drug test though.

>>38501486
You can buy codeine OTC in Japan so I'm guessing it was a joke.

>>38501378
Kson has hinted only. Never been full on naming the dragon.

>>38501427
We've had how many clock watching shill streams for UMG?

>>38501378
Kson actually said who she used to be? That's honestly surprising.

>>38501152
I wonder who the mystery nigga is. I feel like if it was Milky or one of her non-holo/vtuber friends she would have just said so.

>>38501546
Several times now, starting not that long after graduation at that

>>38501547
It's not milky, she straight up said she went out with IRyS and Milky before. It might be someone she's working on a song with she can't/doesn't want to name yet.

>>38501546
She has only hinted and done allusions. She's still under NDA.

>>38501547
Probably a JP member she doesn't want to reveal without permission

>>38501592

>>38501547
The fact that she said mystery friend makes me think it’s an EN or ID member that will be revealed later. If it was just someone like her VA friend she would have just said that.

>>38501640
No way, Mori was already lucky to meet her in person.

>>38478584
>Nezumi Scheme
She is pumping out true, unfiltered Mori right there

>>38501675
They could be fucking for all we know

>>38501697
Would deadbeats be angry is she was fucking a talented female artist?

>>38501725
I'd wholeheartedly wish the best for them and their musically gifted science babies

>>38501725
no I WANT her to have sex with Ado

>>38501658
It means other side contact.

>>38501776
so, a Mori contact

>>38479606
>4chan anon finally understands what taking their meds does

>>38501803
or one banned to that side

>>38501758
Let's be honest, Mori is not that musically gifted. But she has worked hard to improve her musical ability.

>>38501725
Nah, she's basically Mori's dream girl (cat included)
https://twitter.com/zutomayo/status/1583432098987184128?s=46&t=X9Px94Gx_ioA3WvQ6eTBQw

>>38501825
Writing lyrics is a musical talent, dummy

>>38501825
She’s not a prodigy, but she’s certainly talented.

>>38501825
If you seriously think this, you have zero perception of what defines talent

>Mori squealing in delight at Takemi calling her "my little guinea pig"

>>38501895
Gura with zero formal musical training has perfect pitch, an acute sense of rhythm, and excellent musical interpretation/improv. This is a gifted talent.

>>38501909
She's a hard M who loves bondage

>>38501991
And Mori, having no formal musical training, managed to improve her singing considerably in roughly 4 months to the point of being one of the best vocalists in EN, while also being similarly skilled in musical improv. Your point being?

>>38485200
>Collab with Stars more
JP idol gender rules.

>Do a charity stream
Not as a corpo vtuber.

>>Teach English to JP Holomem
>Kinda? Lui picked up a lot from her
Lui is very conversational, does that really count as "classroom learning"?

>>38501991
>"perfect"
You were so close to making an okay point

>>38501991
Based on what? She has one song as a sample and perfect pitch is just something people are born with, has no bearing on talent as a musician it’s just a bit more handy.

>>38485804
But Sana's menhera plus she dropped off the face of the earth, so that will never happen

>>38502050
Anyone can train to be good at something, but not everyone has inherent raw talent. I am only saying Mori isn't gifted, but she is talented.

>>38502191
>I am only saying Mori isn't [superlative form of talented], but she is talented
Let's just agree to disagree. I've had my fill of psychic damage-inducing semantic arguments here this week

>>38502255
It's talent without practice. That's the difference. Some kids are just born with talent. You knew kids like that growing up.

>>38502255
This started because of the assumption that she is able to pass down music genes to her children, which I think is not true.

>>38501077
They tried, it just got the gun.
...it has the gun! RUN!

>>38502255
I've noticed a lot more of those lately.

>>38502320
Of fucking course it isn't true you dip, I was making a fucking joke

>>38502355
Jokes have to be realistic

>>38500597
But who's Bret Hart in this?

>>38502385
>>38486997

>>38495931
smol mori is goals

If Mori gets a cat will we get a 3d render of it I would like it to spin like this cat.

>>38496763
Every rapper has haters that secretly love them

>>38502296
Gura did practice though. I distinctly recall her mentioning that she sings all the time and she practiced rhythm games for hours till she got good. If your only evidence is her coming up with harmonies on the fly there's evidence of Mori being able to do that too like during the karaoke with IRyS a while back. Both are talented in different ways, but I wouldn't say they're at completely different levels.

To the idiot who put Gura as Janetty. IT ISN'T ACCURATE.

If you're going to equate Bonebros to a Shawn Michaels' faction it's going to be DX, not the fucking Rockers.

>>38497751
i love nezumi scheme

>>38502460
Thanks, I was hoping someone would make this.

YOU GOT ALL THE SUPERIOR MUSIC GENES WHILE I GOT THE INFERIOR MUSIC GENES BONEBROTHER

>>38502463
It's not an absolute all or nothing thing man, now you're being autistic. She had to practice less because she's naturally gifted at it. Just luck. Some kids are naturally good at sports or math or singing. Doesn't mean they never practice ever, just means it comes naturally to them and they have to practice much less than other kids would to achieve the same things.

>>38502540

>>38502549
You forget though that for the majority of her life Mori put all her practice reps into drawing. Music is still a relatively new thing for her, she got discouraged from singing early on in life and it's something she regrets now.

Also "Perfect Pitch" is a musical term. Doesn't mean literally the pitch is perfect always. It means they have a better ear for pitch than others. It's not really a learned thing.

I'm just going to trust people like Suisei, Rikka, GIGA, TeddyLoid, and Mumei who praise Mori's voice and talent rather than a 4chan "expert"
https://youtu.be/TAt12eF6PEk

>>38502610
That has no direct bearing to this conversation. This conversation is about how Mori wasn't born with a natural inclination or talent for singing.

>>38500110
Nijisanji is just overexpanding, nijipiss is gonna implode if they expand too fast imho

>>38502540
Gura has a full genetic brother right? The solution is becoming obvious.

>>38502331
I'd just like to say I introduced this webm to 4chan... Man, must be close to two years ago now, huh? I always get a kick out of seeing a deadbeat post it.
Have you ever introduced an obscure skeleton that other deadbeats saved, deadbeats?

>>38502632
nobody said she sucked at singing, read the posts. It was said she doesn't have natural talent at it, which is true. God, I didn't even start this conversation I'm just not retarded at reading like you.

>>38502657
Something tells me you never heard the story of why she stopped singing

>>38502691
about 1/4 of mori stream sound posts posted are mine

>>38502255
>>38502331
I feel like deadbeats might be one the more autistic fanbase on here because so many of the genuine/good faith arguments that happen in this thread just revolve around semantics and pedantry
It's kinda funny in a way

>>38502657
She was though.

>>38502691
I enjoy making these edits, if that counts

>>38502746
Fanbase reflects the oshi.

>>38502746
We all want to be the last deadbeat and the time to fight at the familymart is not here yet

>>38502695
You don't know any of these girls or their lives, the fact that you're throwing out assumptions is retarded in itself

>>38502770
They do, custombeats are the very soul of this thread.

>>38502743
I fucking have, I'm a day 1 deadbeat. I have heard it multiple times since the first time she told it she didn't even say who it was that discouraged her, and later times she admitted that it wasn't even a hard discouragement, that younger her blew it out of proportion. It still doesn't mean that she had natural, born with it, talent. If anything it proves that she doesn't!

That's fine! She's become a good singer with hard work! You're a fucking idiot who doesn't read posts through!

>>38502747
She was not or she would have had talent at it without trying.

>>38502666
I feel HoloEN has the opposite problem, EN3 would have been a shot in the arm in both bringing new viewers and giving Myth/Council new people to bounce off of. But 2022 is pretty much over and no sign of EN3.

>>38502770
A deadbeat for every situation, where is the autismbeat?

>>38502746
If you aren't as autistic as Mori, you don't belong. Simple as.

>>38502797
It's not an assumption, she's admitted as much multiple times. And Gura has talked about being a natural at singing too. Fuck! you guys are dumb trying to defend something that isn't a complaint or negative thing.

>>38502817
NTA but I'd describe that as her having tons of latent talent, especially considering she was able to improve so quickly and so substantially. Compare to someone like Ame who has been practicing for a long time now and--not to shit on her--just isn't a good singer

It's like I'm dealing with ESL children here!

>>38502695
>"It was said she doesn't have natural talent at it, which is true"
>Claiming a subjective opinion as an objective truth
Please think before you type and stop trying to act like your opinion has more value than anyone else's

>>38502920
More like you're getting mad that a subjective matter is also a matter of subjective debate

>>38502920
UOH?

>>38502910
That's not natural talent. That's not being born with perfect pitch or a huge range like Freddy Mercury. He didn't need to practice to be a better singer than 80% of people naturally. He just was. You're just confusing the issue with semantics.

>>38502958
It's not subjective though, you can watch threads and remember what was said in them. Mori is not a natural talent at singing. Gura is. That's it, not an opinion. Mori is taller than Gura. Not an opinion.

>>38501520
>>38501546
Kson has said the name, but her relationship is only "sister" not one and the same

>>38503010
Fuck! Now I'm messing up words. *streams not threads.

This retard really likes using exclamation points

>>38503010
>"x is good at y" is not an opinion
A-anon...

>>38503039
Exclamation points make you more right!!! AS DOES TYPING IN ALL CAPS!

>>38502666
Idk if they'll implode cause just shitting out a bunch of members has their go-to strategy since its inception, there's why their JP branch has like 80 or so member compared to Holo's 32 so it's not surprising they would've eventual outnumber HoloEn
They kinda circumvent this by having a high turn-over rate where situations like Sana (I.E new member doesn't even make it a year) is fair commonplace

>>38502910
I would chalk that up more to Mori applying her effort in a more "efficient" way than Ame has. Mori got a professional voice coach and she has several friends in pretty much every level of music production on top of UMG producers giving tips. Its not necessarily that Mori put more effort in than Ame its just she had tools for improvement Ame couldn't/didn't use.

>>38503039
What is wrong with using grammatical punctuations?!

>>38503045
That's not what is being said. Read the posts. "Natural talent" is its own thing. It's not the same dictionary definition as "talent". It doesn't mean just plain "skill"

....This is all boiling down to Naruto vs Sasuke AGAIN.

>>38503076
Ame doesn't have a singing coach and doesn't practice all that much really.

>>38502856
I can't find him but I do have this and I don't know what it is

>>38502974
>>38503096
I think your issue is that you seemingly have these arbitrary categorization levels for "talent" and you're treating them as objective truth as opposed to something that you just decided for yourself, and refusing to accept that others have different perspectives.
"Talent" is not measurable. Please understand this before you give yourself an aneurysm.

I love Mori and I enjoy spending time with some Deadbeats. Even if some of us are very specific and nitpicky, but those are qualities that come with bring very into a topic. (Also possibly autism)
Just like Mori goes on in-depth talks about what she's passionate about, I'm sure you all could do the same. As long as we all remember why we're here, to cheer for her.

>>38503118
No both of those were fated kids born with their powers. Gaara vs Rock Lee is the appropriate comparison.

>>38503010
Please tell me you're being satirical right now.

>>38503066
I WILL SUCK MORI'S TITTIES!!!

>>38503164
I cheer for her feet and pretty toes

>>38477981
Fueteku Yukichis...

>>38503010
The original point wasn't even about singing. It was about musical talent. Also, unless you've heard Gura singing as an actual child you have no idea where her natural talent level started at since self taught is a thing too. I taught myself algebra when I was young, doesn't mean I'm a math prodigy.

>>38503146
"Perfect Pitch" is a undeniable fact. It's not an opinion. It exists and is documented. Gura has Perfect Pitch. Was born with it. Mori does not have Perfect Pitch.

This is not something of a skill level. This is a "feat" that you're born with if you want to compare to RPGs. It's a different conversation than the one you want to force. You are an idiot for refusing to see this despite it being laid out and explained to you. Stop trying to defend Mori against something that is not an anti's arugment and isn't even negative at all.