/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3828220
Ouch...

>>3828220
Elira is streaming at the same time, so of course someone will have less viewers. lol

>>3828220
All me

>>3828281
Marshmallow vs Tetris 99
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpuZZkwkXyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x_n-l_uqLM

>>3828220
>Started streaming 2 minutes

Shit thread, kill yourself you tribalist faggot.

>>3828220
>just started 2 minutes ago

nigger

>>3828220
>Seriously only 1k viewers?
The green fish has to be good to save them. We shall see.

Oh no no no only 1000 viewers in 2 minutes Pomudachi how will we cope?

>>3828220
She got more as mint.

13 minutes and still zatsudan mode.

>>3828220
Mint bros....

>>3828479
Only in the graduation stream, normal streams were 100-150.

>>3828330
Both have about 2K viewers. Not too bad.
How many can we expect to stick around by next month?

at least she spat on us

>>3828627
Please understand, NijiEN is just filling in the zatsudan niche because HoloEN never ever does it. Yes I know Amelia is doing one as we speak, doesn't mean it's the usual.

Sucking up to your CEO rather than insulting and belittling him.

>>3828220
This is their first week right? How did they lose the debut buff so fast lol?

>>3828687
Hard to tell. Drop off + potential Hololive debuts are things to factor in.
We're coming up on Vsinger really soon if Hololive's past audition/debut schedule is anything to go by.

4 digits is really good. idk wtf you're talking about

Hololive numbers have totally fucked up with your perception, 1k is not bad at all for the average VTuber

>>3828220
>1k
that's 10 times more than what she got as an indie

>squeal
I'm in

I missed this so much

>>3828220
She's got 47k subs bro 1k is fine

>>3828936
2600 right now with dragon streaming simultaneously. Kys retard.

>>3828220
my favorite vtuber gets 90 viewers on average. She's been streaming 3-4 times a week for 2 years.

>>3828687
>>3828801
>>3828907
Good numbers for a small indie. They are beat by every member of vshojo and pretty much every large indie (shartmis, pikamee, kana, etc.). Ninjisanji was supposed to be hololive's rival, are a large company, and they massively shilled with ads.

>>3829003
Meant to quote OP: >>3828220

Is she very different from Mint or is it the same in personality?

>Nearly 1 million subs holo members getting barely 1-2k views above the 50k subs vtuber

Ngl I prefer the smaller chat, higher odds of interaction with the chuuba

P-please Holochads dont debut Vsinger this week, please

>>3828220
>pic

>>3829018
300k in ads

>>3829041
Exactly the same, love that she's back in full-force

>>3829095
its over, a waiting room beat us...

>>3829041
basically the same

>>3829070
Vsinger isn't really in competition with NijisanjiEN. If you said HoloEN 2 it'd be a different story.

give it a month for views to stabilize. it may shrink. they may grow. who knows.
I still say that the hiring choices were too conservative and I doubt that fish is going to be the explosive talent for a nijisanji spearhead into a new market.

>>3829128
Don't compare yourself to one of the most-watched vtubers on Earth, Nijifriend.

>>3828220
I only watch hololive but common, 2 mins into the stream mean nothing

>>3828710
Bitch mori does zatsus every week. Multiple ones

>>3829206
people will numberfag their debut comparing every aspect with niji en. Also if they are like AZKI they will stream at least one or two times per week

Pomu is cute on arrival!

>>3829262
Im sorry

>>3829052
Holobros h he's right

>likes black clover

wow, elira is actually on a higher shonen level than usual, which is actually kinda rare for female vtubers, most are not that into shonen besides the obligatory kimetsu no yaiba, HxH and jojo, one piece is also kinda rare for females too.

>>3829095
OH NO NO NO

>>3829510

>actually powerlevel nerding about todoroki

yeah she is on a special level of autism and I love it.

>>3828281
DUMP FAIRYCOIN ALL IN ON DRAGON!

>>3829510
black clover is one of the biggest shonen series around though?

How many viewers for the fish? I've only seen numbers for the fairy/dragon.

>>3828220
Theyll be fine. Wait until second wave and for all the collabs

>>3829095
>stream hasn't even started yet
>2.7K likes

i had forgotten how painful it is to watch her play tetris oh my god im seething

>>3828907
>Hololive numbers have totally fucked up with your perception
>"Ichikara is but a small indie startup"

>>3829688
0

>>3829788
It’s ANYCOLOR now, get it right

Wasn't the challenge supposed to be lvl 15 for Tetris?

>>3829855
Yep, she got up to level 12 this run, and we go again

>>3829788
it anycolor retard.

>>3829102
>300k in ads
Imagine having that budget

>>3828220
Do numbersfags really not understand that having 1k people in your stream is incredible? Most vtubers get 20 people in a stream unless theyre really big which is what like 5 percent of vtubers. Getting a thousand viewers is a big deal and even though I'm a holofag I really am glad nijien is doing well and I hope they have a lot of fun and stay around for a while. I also think we need to do something drastic about numbercels.

>>3829018
>>3829052
So much this. She's doing numbers better than choco,roboc and others who have over 500k. LMAO

>>3829286
Except that Mori streams during prime JP time
>>3829788
For a company that had almost zero presence in the western market, they had a pretty good start. They'll have to grind all the way up by themselves though, and that's gonna be the real challenge.

>>3829095
JUST FUCKINF STOP WITH THE NYA BULLSHIT YOU DUMB CUNT YOU WERE CUTE BEFORE BUT NOW YOURE JUST CRINGE AS FUCK AND YOU WILL NEVER BE JAPANESE

>>3830031
>The worst of Hololive is almost as bad as the best of Niji EN

Retard.

>>3829855
>>3829899
based pomubros talking about the stream

>>3829788
>Why does hololive have shitty rigging?
>Small company please understand XD

>>3829128
Why holo pic you schizo??

>>3830391
Spend $5 to tape cat ears to gura 200k views, most watched vtube stream of all time. Spend $300k on ad campaign 2k views.

>>3830442
we need to move on nijibro, seething all day wont help us

>>3830031
even roboco scuffed stream had the same views or even more than pomu stream.
https://vnuma.net/video-info/RTgpd3fueiE
https://counts.live/youtube-view-count/3x_n-l_uqLM

Then again she is playing a singlelayer game, that she isnt good at and with minimum comentary. A waste of post debut buff.

Pomu is cute and beating most of NijiJP's viewership, which is all that matters. Going from the double digit views of NijiKR and triple digit views of NijiID makes NijiEN look like a massive success.

>>3829095
Oh no Gura's got .5% of her total subscribers watching! We finished Niji bros!

>>3830699
OH NO NO, NIJIEN IS MOCKING OUR MAIN BRANCH NIJIBROS, WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>3830147
>The worst of Hololive is almost as bad as the lowest subbed of the 3 NijiEN members despite having under 50K subs and only on her 3rd stream
Pretty good considering Niji was basically non-existent in the west until 3 days ago.

>>3830448
Doesn't everyone that watches vtubers also run an adblock?

>>3828344
>>3828379
>>3828400

>>3830905
fuck, the dream is over nijibros...

>>3830905
Now post the viewers after you refreshed the page

>>3830966
14k

>>3829013
who?

>>3830905
2.68m subs vs 48k. Why do Gura's subs not care about her content, Chumcucks?

>>3830905
You really proved your point, I guess I’ll just stop watching Pomu now and watch Gura instead.

>>3830905
Oh, I apologize she got about 0.52% percent of her subs watching right now. I stand corrected!

>>3831114
that's actually 0.44%

>>3830905
Only like 5 times more? Damn, nijiEN is gonna blow up.

>>3830905
Okay, I cant cope against this, guess you win this time holofag

>>3830905
Only 12k? How did she decline this hard?

Nijifriends, you're probably all newfags so let me give you some advice to never acknowledge numberfags. They don't care about anyone, they just want to watch you squirm. They'll go away eventually if you ignore them and move on to something else.

>>3831249
Newfags? No, we just moved from other vtubers. I'm done with Cover's bullshit and enabling of gachikoi schizos. I'm so fucking glad there's good alternatives that don't have as much of the western stench as vshojo (although I don't hate them).

>>3828220
they debuted a couple of days ago, how are they doing so bad already?!

>>3831199
20k now. she started just 20 minutes ago you dumb fucker. it will be 30k in another hour.

>>3830905

>>3831348
If you wanted a good alternative you could have just watched indies. They have been out longer than hololive en. You are just some contrarian edgelord who is assmad that your hololive killer amounted to a brap followed by a flatline.

>>3831837
GOOD alternatives. The indies are rarely good enough. They lack a certain something.
Pomu filled a gaping hole in my soul~

>>3831837
Pomu is great, cope

>>3830905
Half of those are bots.

>>3831771
Pekora gets 18k in 3 minutes. Gura can barely even hit 20k on Minecraft...

>>3831837
Whole reason I watch them is that I loved them as indies kek

>>3832157
>Pekora gets 18k in 3 minutes. Gura can barely even hit 20k on Minecraft...
check out their first streams; it's not even close. gura's over a million views, streamed for an hour less, and had over 37k live views.

btw: gura is up over 22k now. she'll be over 30k in 40 more minutes.

>>3828785
Probably not a good time to debut a new chuuba, it's spring time and covid is winding down in a lot of English speaking countries.

>>3832157
I'll give you a hint retardchama.... the JPs retain a dedicated audience, meaning they have like a dedicated 15k that watch start to finish. The ENs have more drop ins and outs, which means someone will watch for an hour, leave and another guy comes in for like 30 and leaves, hence why the ENs have higher viewer counts after the stream.

>>3832463
>check out their first streams
>why did x decline so hard?
Pekora's last minecraft stream was 66k. Gura's at 22k 45 minutes in and already peaking.

>>3831111
I don't know SEAnigger, but I do know my oshi didn't get 1k viewership after debut.

>>3832870
>Pekora's last minecraft stream was 66k
prove it. no one pulls in 66k on minecraft; she has just 512k viewers on that video.

>>3833587
https://vnuma.net/video-info/k_2P7N_4y_k

>>3833635
learn how to read fucking japanese

26,772 live viewers (max); 66k viewers total when streaming.

>>3833721
最大同時視聴者数 is Max live viewers
高評価数 is Number of likes

>>3833721
>chumbuds pretending to know Japanese

>>3831114
>More Subs are bad

The ultimate strawman COPE.

>>3834598
Tis true though. Some of the worst cases of a dead YT channel present with a terrible sub-view ratio for one. Secondly, we will only be able to tell with Hololive's second generation. If they come into existence with a similar sub count to Holomyth than Hololive EN gen 1 will have been a resounding failure with a strong front.

>>3831837
Corporate tubers are simply better than indie tubers; better overlays, better transitions, better music, better content. I rather watch a low profile corporate streamer over an indie

>>3831348
>I'm so fucking glad there's good alternatives that don't have as much of the western stench as vshojo
Enabling schizos helps with this though, sad as it might sound. These are young girls with dreams of grandeur; they're not going to keep themselves in line and professional on their own. The knowledge that if they fuck up they'll have multiple schizos going Perfect Blue on their asses helps keep them in line.

>>3836159
Western stench is like 5% of the issue that gachikoi are. It's just a minor annoyance. I would watch the fuck out of Nyanners if she didn't fuck over her fans years ago, but I actually like Mel and stuff. It's mostly fine.

>>3835051
You’re fucking retarded. Do you even look at her videos? She gets 400k to 600k on average per video. Also you clearly don’t understand how this works. Gura would get 400k to 600k views per video from the start and still do.
Here’s a question for you, you dumb nigger. Would you rather have 600k subscribers and 600k viewers or 2.6 million subscribers and 600k viewers?

>>3836294
The former, because audience participation has a big impact with algorithm. 600K views with 600K subs could easily result in something like 5M views with 3M viewers regularly. While 2.6 million subscribers with 600K viewers could lead to a situation where deterioration leads to 5M subs with 300K regular viewers or less.

>>3836640
You are actually a dumb nigger. Holy shit.

>>3830905
Didn't she used to average 40k?

>>3836666
ogey satan

>>3836682
didn't nijiEN used to average 15k?

>>3837798
They debuted with 15k. Gura debuted with 90k. It's pretty sad how Gura has fallen to the level of even being compared to NijiEN.

>>3837978
So gura dropped 2/3 of live viewers post debut, and nijiEN dropped off the same percentage in two days. This is with 300k+ Usd of ad money mind you

>>3837978
Unfortunate, but it seems like they're both not gonna make it.

>>3837978
>Gura debut with 90k
No Gura debut with 70k
Also take this

>>3839326
How did she decline even harder then? Where did all her viewers go?

>>3839906
Most of her fans are clipfags. When she did a member poll, more than 60% wanted her to sing instead of playing any games / doing other stuffs.

>>3839906
Where did the niji debutfags went then I ask you?

>>3828220
That is 100x more viewers than the previous EN branch had
I'd say its a success

>>3840221
How many times more money did they put into this debut tho. I’d say 1000x

>Hololive has to pander to schizo unicornfags and Gfefags to be popular
Mark my words this won't end well

>>3840172
Gone too. I just think it's sad how EN still has to compare themselves to Niji because of a dwindling viewer base when JP has already left NijiJP in the dust.

>>3836159
Nice chinese mentality you idiot

1k is a great number for an indie.
But for the second biggest group, it's really embarrassing.
They're supposedly hololive's rivals but they aren't even second.
Really goes to show how little the nijisinjai brand matters on the global market.
Most people cant even remember the name properly.

>>3843782
You're Japanese, aren't you?

>>3840590
NijiEN panders to the same people and still fails. They were literally using hololive memes during debut

>>3843782
Hololive got a 8 month head start in the west, so obviously Nijisanji wasn't going to be getting HL numbers from the get-go. Building a brand in a market already dominated by another brand is gonna take time, but it's not a bad start.

>>3843886
*citation needed

>>3844118

>>3828220
anon that's like the 1% of the scene

>>3844177
Nice photoshop retard

>>3844081
Vsinger, Vshojo and En2 will gangrape them into irrelevance

>>3844177
Sorry, I was referring to the meme part.

>>3844255
That's actually the funniest part.
Because they have no real brand or groundwork out there they are basically starting fresh as nobodies.
And the ecosystem has already been filled up a lot.
It's a very competitive market they're entering. Their main competition might not even be hololive, it'll be random EN indies.

>>3844253
cope

>>3836682
>started streaming 3 minutes ago

>>3829013
My favorite gets 10 viewers and streams just about every day of the week

>>3831114
Pewdiepie gets around 30-50k per stream and he has like 100M subs

It was around 3k after Elira stopped streaming. This thread is bait.

>>3844263
I guess they're talking about Pomu dropping a big kusa joke, somethiing that originated from a Towa stream and became a meme in the Hololive community.
https://youtu.be/x8Z1IQj3BIc?t=487

>>3844715
is that supposed to be impressive?

>>3844619
Yeah he's king of dead subs, been on the platform for years so both his content changed and viewers tastes changed. Along with that he had the sub battle with T series back a couple years which boosted his sub count by a shit ton of people who don't watch him.

>>3840221
There was a previous EN branch?

>>3844860
It's not bad. As comparison, Kiara's stream going on at the same time peaked at 6k viewers.

>>3845044
When IN rebranded as EN then back to IN again to make room for the new EN

>>3845076
Yeah but Kiara is shit

>>3840590
You're saying the exact same thing as those people who mock Hololive when they're still less popular than Nijisanji. Unicorn pandering is working out for Hololive and anti-unicorn bullshit that Nijisanji is doing doesn't fucking work.

>>3844807
Sounds like she's trying to do a laugh like Pekora's

i will only say POMU IS CUTE! (and i will gladly follow her progress)

>>3847719
A lot of chubas laugh that way. Wow shocker

reminder that she was a total menhera, politicsposter, and friend of artemis, domo and their ilk as an indie

>>3848143
>menhera
no

>politicsposter
big no

>friends with artemis, domo
it's literally unavoidable to avoid them as an EN indie, those fags force their way into every successful EN vtubers chats and timelines

THE NUMBERS OH MY GOD THE FUCKING NUMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS

>>3848242
literally impossible*

>>3848242
>went on crying fits about her chat, real life, and mama on discord and her twitter every other week
>would purposefully post political tweets with plans to delete them
yeah she was both, hate to break it to you

>>3848482
Since she is a corporate vtuber now, she obviously won't be saying any of this stuff anymore.

There was no lie in that tweet tho.

>>3848608
still a political tweet and she's still a menhera
the kiara of nijien

>>3848482
I don't see anything but truth

>>3848482
That's just whining. She's not advocating for anything.

>>3828220
Pomu's nonironically the worst one. I don't care if this board gasses her up, literally everyone else on the face of the planet can see how much she sucks, even compared to the normie dragon and fart fish. One look at her twitter on day one told me everything I need to know. She's a turbo-normalfag e-girl that panders to the r/memes crowd. Whoopdee freakin' do.
She has a cute design but let's not pretend anyone actually is enjoying watching miss "oof sis that radiates small dick energy" over here.
>b-but it's good for an indie
Nijisanji is Cover's only real competition. NijiEN post-debut is pulling the numbers of NijiJP's "why even bother" tier and it's only going to go down from there. After the post debut buff dies down, they're going to be pulling indie numbers at a major company. Cobe and sneethe all you want, this is the reality.
Not a tribalfag, NijiEN is just a flop because they hired low tier girls. Admit you're disappointed and wait for gen2 but don't hold out hope that Niji has good talent scouts because they clearly don't.

>>3848482
>went on crying fits about her chat, real life, and mama on discord and her twitter every other week

Nah, she never did, stop making shit up. And no, being sad that her cat died or that he mother is sick isn't a "crying fit".

>would purposefully post political tweets with plans to delete them
How is complaining about how expensive burger healthcare is "political"? And that's the only time she did something like that anyway.

>>3848650
So you think they will go the way of the IN branch and just be dissolved in a couple months?

>>3848482
This triggered me in the wrong way ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ahhhhhhhhhhHHHHHH I'M SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVIIIIIIIIINNNNGGGGGG

>>3848650
Pomu is a bigger otaku than 90% of nu-/jp/. Watch the streams before you make baseless assumptions based on social media interactions you dense motherfucker.

>>3848659
Tell yourself whatever you want, I was in her discord and followed her Twitter and know what I saw

>>3848650
>She's a turbo-normalfag e-girl that panders to the r/memes crowd.
Stopped reading right there.

>>3848482
how do we heal her and her heart

>>3848482
Are you going to defend your garbage government? She's totally right.

>>3848764
Oh wow she likes some of the most accessible non entry level shonenshit anime what a true otaku I KNEEL what next, she's gonna talk about her obscure underground music taste like GACKT, Ayumi Hamasaki and TM Revolution? She's gonna end up filtering half her audience...
>>3848685
Nah probably not. IN was an experiment, I'm not sure anyone's really tried to get India on board before. EN is probably going to be a little more reliable, but they're gonna be indie-level with a small cult following which at this point looks to be made up entirely of /vt/ users

>>3848482
Well yeah just imagine having to work your ass off while being sick just to not die from preventable disease and also while being a vtuber just for hobby, she just want to let it out a bit anon look, she even delete it after having venting a bit so she won't disturb anyone later. She's just a sweet girl having trouble, give her a break.

>>3849569
What shonenshit? Are you retarded to the point of confusing Pomu with Elira? Pomu likes moeshit, idols, CGDCT, VNs and eroge (pretty entry level, but still), 2hu. I don't like her voice and design but I can't deny her powerlevel is off the charts, when she said "I've met ZUN" I broke my fucking kneecaps.

>>3831111
I don't have time to watch streams usually, and most of them are in timeframes not suitable for me, but I'm still subbed to the chuubas I like.

Lwe can't stop winning holobromos

>>3848482
I want to save her and heal her. She deserves better.

>>3836640
Holy fuck not even a nigger can be this retarded