/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>38456529
She should just start fucking learning english already.
it's such an easy language

vshojo is bankrupt, watch Idol Corp they have really nice chuubas

>>38456529
Please do your English reps

>>38456529
Every JP EN collab ever

>>38456529
>vshojo is bankrupt,
based if true
They wasted a ton of people's time and made their privacy a less secure with their faux audiences. fuck em.

>>38456712
She should, but English is a hard af language

>>38456712
>>38456800
She's been learning for months. Her vocab has gotten a lot better
She unironically uses far more English than any of the Holos did back when they were interested in pandering to their EN viewers. But in the same way that JP is hard for English speakers, the inverse is equally true.

>>38456529
Of course it'd take a while to hire another Japanese vtuber for vshojo JP, there aren't many ex-big name JP tubers with a high enough superchat count running around for them to attempt to use for easy bucks, they're biding their time until the next golden goose comes strutting along for them to groom.

t-thanks kson...

>>38456529
Froot cyoot

>>38456529
She's in a hell of her own making.

>>38456529
she can collab with people who are not in vshojo you know
there's nothing stopping her other than herself

>>38457210
>why doesn't the extremely introverted girl with a diagnosed anxiety disorder arrange collabs with strangers?

>>38456529
Vshojo won't hire another JP vtuber until Hololive fires another one. I don't think they'd hire a big nijisanji JP member because fucking vshojo members probably don't know they exist.

>>38457414
So Laplus soon then?

>>38457409
WHAT'S WRONG? She has TALENT FREEDOM now?
Why isn't she using it?
Is losing the hololive collab network that devestating?!

>>38457414
>because fucking vshojo members probably don't know they exist.
The EN side of VShojo collabs with Niji EN more than Hololive does. Of all of the things to shit on Vshojo for, claiming that they don't interract with other vtubers would be the absolute most retarded point to choose

>>38457497
being an unstable menhera is devastating

>>38456529
This collab is up there with moona and coco playing super bunny men. I could feel the cringe radiating from the computer monitor.

>>38457541
He didn't say EN, he said JP and he's absolutely correct, nobody in the EN sphere knows anything about Niji JP

>>38457497
I don't believe Nazuna has ever bragged about talent freedom, so your anger is extremely misplaced here. Can you go sperg somewhere else?

>>38457541
Nigga, I'm willing to bet hard cash if you asked all of Vshojo "EN" to name 2 nijiJP members, ironmouse would name Belmond Banderas and then they'd be stuck.

>>38457576
https://files.catbox.moe/w7as9w.mp4

>>38457497
This is not Kekson anon, Nazuna had never said anything about talent freedom.

>>38457576
>>38457688
One of the people hired for VShojoJP was the former Nijisanji COO who was involved in scouting some of Nijisanji's biggest JP talents.
What a dumb take

>>38458329
Cool, is he a member?

>>38457584
vshojocucks love to pull the talent freedom card when it suits them
turns out the grass isnt always greener on the other side

>>38458359
Sorry, anon. The original point being made was
>VShojo wouldn't ever hire an ex-Niji JP talent because they don't know any
So stop moving the goalposts, tard

>>38458375
The majority of Nazuna's fans on this board are just her old fanbase from when she was Rushia, so keep your tribalfagging autism to a different vtuber.

>>38458393
Actually I'm pretty sure it was
>I don't think they'd hire a big nijisanji JP member because fucking vshojo members probably don't know they exist.
Which is correct.

>>38458445
Why would that matter unless you're dumb enough to think that this matters?
Or are you stupid enough to believe that it's actually Ironmouse or Nyanners running the auditions?

>>38456712
English is difficult for those with no grasp on the slang

>>38458375
Anon for as much as you could say about Nazuna the one thing you can't hold her for is the "talent freedom" bullshit, you can't even hold her fans accountable for that since most, if not all, of them are just old Rushia fans.

>>38458499
Why would you try and counter "Vshojo members don't know NijiJP" with "W-Well they know NijiEN"? Why would you try and counter "Nobody in the EN sphere knows anything about NijiJP" with "W-Well this staff member on the JP team knows about NijiJP"? So many questions.

She should just do a naked dogeza in front of Yagoo and beg to be let back in
The world outside of hololive is shit

>>38456910
Not really.
No retarded runes, grammar is simple and lenient, no gendered language bs and verbs are straightforward, the only real problem is that pronunciation makes absolutely no sense, but that's pretty much it.

>>38458661
Japanese grammar is so different from English grammar that this is a dumb comparison.
Unless you are Japanese yourself, you're not really speaking from any position of either experience or knowledge regarding this subject

>>38457694
I want to rape this stupid slut so bad

>>38458375
I'm pretty sure its the holobronies that keep saying 'TALENT FREEDOM' over and over again

>>38458661
>t.EOP
Honestly Japanese grammar is 100 times easier than English and there is only 2/3 irregular verbs
English grammar doesn't make any sense and I could argue the writting is almost as hard as Japanese but you aretoo used to English to see it

>>38456712
She's busy lawyering up and preparing for Delutaya's wild combo wombo anti-defamation case special. They both stopped publically talking about it but Delu is not kind of girl that will let go unless Mike will apologize or stop breathing.

>>38459845
One wrong brush stroke and you go from writing about how good your day was to writing about your dick getting stuck in the washing machine

>>38460011
If Delu is actually retarded to push this to the courts, she's going to lose.
Apparently Mike has an actual video of Delu defaming her that is completely separate from what Narukami told her.

>>38458661
>No retarded runes
But retarded spelling. America literally has spelling competitions. Pretty much everywhere, else being able to spell is just considered part of basic literacy. The only comparable thing I can think of are Kanji quizzes.
>grammar is simple and lenient
What? English grammar is an absolute clusterfuck, because it's like half a dozen languages mashed together and the grammar rules make no sense. Just some things off the top of my head:
- You can say "I punched him", but not "him punched I"? Why do pronouns have cases when you don't get any of the advantages? Might as well just say "I punched he" and drop the word "him" from the language, since the meaning is determined by the word order anyway.
- Why is it "funnier" and "more important", but not "more funny" and "importanter"? Different adjectives have different rules for no reason.
- Why can you say "I bought an awesome new red sports car", but not "I bought a red new awesome sports car"? There are rules for adjective order, but good luck trying to memorize those as an ESL.
>no gendered language bs
You mean like, for nouns? Actress, stewardess, huntress...
>verbs are straightforward
Plenty of weirdness there. "Went" the past tense of "go", "read" is either present or past tense with different pronunciation, "could" is either present or past tense with the same pronunciation but different meanings... and while we're at ambiguity, what about all the overlap between noun, adjectives and verbs? "Abstract" can be all three, so can "quiet". "Tear" or "lead" mean completely different things depending on whether they're a noun or a verb, etc.
Oh and also, the vocab is huge. English is the only language I know that has different words for animals and their meats, for example. You got "cow" and "chicken" from German, but "beef" and "poultry" from french. Same with many other words like "drink" vs. "beverage".
>pronunciation makes absolutely no sense
And that too.
I am euro and have it much easier than someone from jp, but even I can tell that English is not an easy language by any means.

>>38460468
Delu will learn why they call him thegunrun inshallah

>>38460539
>questions
I don't know

>>38460033
As if English is any different

>>38456529
That collab was a sad sight, but
>>38456712

>>38460831
Damn, it's almost like I can still tell what that means despite grammatical errors. You can literally just write words how they sound and an english speaker will be able to figure out what you're trying to say. If you don't know a kanji? Fuck you

What do fandead think of her?

>>38460925
Understanding something, and being able to say something, require two very different skills. Understanding a foreign language is far easier than being able to communicate in it.
Out of curiosity, what is your first language and can you speak Japanese?

>>38460468
"Apparently Mike has" is shit that she repeats from start of this mess and showed nothing of value.

>>38460553
Cute, except he's definitively not so fluent in Japan's law and V-Shojo is not some massive company to throw millions to hire lawyers overseas and translators to communicate with them.

>>38461007
Cope

>>38460988
would that not apply to both Japanese and English?

>>38456910
It is a task, yet it can be understood through thorough thought, though.

>>38459845
I'm ESL actually.

>>38461141
Yes. Of course.
My point is just, that as a native Japanese speaker, even if she is trying to learn English, she isn't going to suddenly be able to converse with two native English speakers within a few months of study. That would be absurd
She is trying. She is putting in the effort. She's actually doing her reps.
She showed us this photo of her phone background
https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1593055254966603780/photo/1

>>38460925
>If you don't know a kanji?
Then you write in kana. But "literally just writing words how they sound" isn't as easy as you make it out to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N192B0W4jjw

>>38461007
Nice ESL post.
The argument that Mike doesn't have hard proof of Delu's slander is pretty weak. Delu made this entire thing public with a statement she spent two weeks drafting with her lawyer specifically to pressure Mike into handing over her proof.
I know it's common for you "people" to always push the idea that Mike is a liar, but that's almost always just because of your twisted view of her

I'm ESL and English is easy to learn. My first language is American English, my Second Language is British English, and third is Australian English, by the way.

>>38460539
This. Even disregarding culture gaps and slang English at its most basic level is a complete mess.

>>38461283

>>38461444
people push that she's a liar because she is a liar

>>38456529
Why the fuck would you watch trannyshojo in the first place?

>>38461787
Every anti I've argued with about her for any significant length of time always ends up lying about something.
Her antis cannot be trusted to formulate actual coherent arguments regarding her, because they are dishonest and retarded.
Did you know that 5ch antis have been quoting a random 5ch post, which they claim was made by her (without a shred of evidence) for 9 months now and actually use it as a point of reference in arguments against her. The "never trust an APEX woman" line was some random 5ch post, and yet it's treated like gospel

>>38461866
Because some people pick the VTubers they watch based on which ones they like, not what tribe they belong to

>>38461866
Why would the Fandead just stop supporting their wife because she's streaming with another company?

>>38456529
Laplus will join shortly.

>>38456529
You know what's weird. First, the talent are the most independent of any corpo, second VShojo only makes money from merch and sponsors but they are so slow to hire people. Whats going on? Can someone explain this?

>>38463568
What is there to explain?

>>38460967
Like actual JP fandead? I seen comments calling her a big sister of Nazuna, mainly because Nazuna told them that Silver often tries to talk to her
also big booba.
I don't know about actual EN Fandead

>>38463568
>First, the talent are the most independent of any corpo
What explication do you need? They are free to do anything with their content, if Mel can do porn and Silver can do ASMR in her Patreon, just like Hime can't disappear for ages, or Nazuna can maintain her two lives, they are basically on their own to make their choices for content, obviously they do have meetings and when help is needed they can support them, just like Nazuna TL system, helping her with TITS or stuff like that.
>VShojo only makes money from merch and sponsors but they are so slow to hire people.
They aren't a company like Cover or AnyColor, they are basically 10 weebs that work for all the members, one is part of the Twitch founding team, one was a huge VFX meme guy on YT, and the other ones are just managers, lawyers and even some programmers like Fugiman, who created the system that most vtubers/youtubers use on stream to make the "jumpy" pngs while talking.
Most of the money that the company makes is spent on tech for them, like V-IRL or the infamous backpacks of GunRun.

That's why they don't have a lot of members, they basically assist them with sponsors and merch but the members by themselves can do whatever they want, and it's already difficult if you don't have a bigger team, since out of that sponsor deals and merch they make money.

>>38460967
JP Fandead treat her like the big sister of Nazuna
EN Fandead don't mind her

>>38461866
Because people support individual chuubas rather than the color of the triangle behind them.

>>38458661
English is the most difficult language to learn because it's grammer, spelling and pronunciation rules don't even exist.
I mean look at the I before E rule with all these 50 dozen exceptions.

>>38460539
Don't forget to, too and two all pronounced exactly the same but have completely different meanings, which is a complete mess with to and too being so similar in spelling as well.

>>38460967
She's alright, I personally have a hard time trusting her though cause of her feelings about parasocialism she's mentioned before. Not that that's unique to her or anything, but I don't think I could ever get over that when you know that's how they feel about you and your relationship. At least she's nice enough to not push anything for now.

>>38464908
She's always seemed like one of the more parasocially friendly VShojos to me, especially with how she says she loves you every 5 min

>>38465020
I think in comparison to Nazuna, most people don't go as far.
I'm pretty sure Silver has said that she wouldn't date a fan, for instance. In contrast, Nazuna says she won't date or marry anyone while she streams, but if she were to settle down afterwards, it would be only with a fan.
I don't really worry too much, though. It's not like the other VShojo girls are going to interfere with Nazuna in any way, and most of her most intimate comments are going to be relegated to member only streams on her Mikeneko account.

>>38456529
On the one hand I feel bad for her essentially being roped in to Vshojo when she was basically desperate and vulnerable. On the other hand, she was fucking retarded to join due to what I can only assume was a desperate need to regain relevance with a "big" agency again, despite the fact that she was already doing fine as an indie anyway.

>>38465020
She is, same with Mouse.
They are basically in the same boat of being parasocial to their own chat, and letting them get parasocial with her, and at the same time they have weird standards to draw the line. Why I mean, it's basically what one would think parasocialism should be, unlike you know, Mike. But if you don't like parasocial behavior, you could just not like them.
>>38465272
She's doing both and seems to be fine.

>>38464653
Come on, the grammar is not that bad. The spelling and pronunciation is, but that's secondary to actually communicating. There's (almost) no gender, no noun cases, no conjugations, fairly strict SVO sentence order, the only major problem is that you'll have trouble pronouncing a word you've only seen written and vice versa.

>>38465307
I don't think Mike has ever really drawn the line anywhere
She's given her fans permission to be obsessed with her, permission to menhera on occassion, and she makes it very clear when she's going menhera herself that she really doesn't have anything else other than her fans.

>>38465690
Japanese and English aren't even in the same broad language family (Japonic versus Indo-European).
Unless your first language is also a non Indo-European language, you can't really grasp how foreign English really is to a Japanese person

>>38465020
It's not that she doesn't do parasocial content, but she views it as 100% "streamers are just entertainers" and that attitude rubs me the wrong way, that's it really. Unless I'm getting clipfagged and there's something else I missed.

>>38465804
There are some things that are mutually in both languages due to culture: sushi, wasabi, hiroshima, nagasaki, anime, manga, ect

>>38465804
Nah, I get that. But she (or whatever chuuba you want) doesn't actually have to learn to speak English well, just get to a semi-competent level of cute engrish that allows basic communication.

>>38456910
English is literally the easiest language to learn in the world

>>38465690
English grammer is horrid because it pulled words from half a dozen languages and kept their grammer instead of trying to make a unified structure. Shit like goose/geese moose/moose for plurals, or malcontent/discontent for prefixes. If you don't grow up with English, it's confusing as shit

>>38456910
English is probably the easiest language in the world to learn thanks to all the material you can use for free. It's extremely easy to surround yourself with only the English language which helps a lot with learning it.

>>38465968
>>38465701
I guess I just meant in comparison to the rest of the EN sphere, not in comparison to Nazuna...

>>38465968
It's called being 'tsun', mom, and it's based!

>>38456529

Going from Hololive to Vshojo is like a foreign student getting put in the special education class with the mentally retarded.

>>38466564
Neither of those has anything to do with grammar? It's vocabulary. The goose/geese foot/feet thing is a holdover from earlier forms of English but there's on a handful of them and the vast majority of words are regular, while words like malcontent are "five dollar words" that are confusing even to less-educated native speakers. There are really only a few hundred irregular verbs and maybe a hundred irregular nouns in English, just put them in Anki and you can easily memorize all of them in a month, tops.

>>38466894
This gave me a nice kek desu

They should invite Rikotan. She has already expressed some interest in it. She'd fit right in.

>>38457576

>>38463568
VShojo JP is barely off the ground and Japanese companies are notoriously cautious about newcomers and predatory about business deals. While they did hire some known industry people, it still takes time to form connections and associations, again, especially in Japan, where they huddle up to their buddy companies like security blankets and never betray them. Cover and Anycolor have a lot more contacts, so VShojo has to find other people willing to participate with them or make in-roads with people who don't mind working with multiple agencies. As for talents, they have to want to join and VShojo has to hire enough staff to handle their needs. Kson apparently came with her own managers but we don't know about Nazuna. Mouse once said that she didn't expect a new JP member until 2023, which makes sense since the entity has only officially existed since July 2022. They're moving slow with VShojo JP as opposed to VShojo EN.

>>38469998
I don't see why they haven't onboarded Memori or whatever her name is (YUC'e), she's obviously in that circle.

>>38460539
You could say all this bs about any other anglo and romance language, like if you speak german going into english is gonna be easy the hard part is being from asia and trying to learn all this sht

>>38469998
VShojo EN just got it's first new member since January 2021

>>38470345
Not only could you say the same things about any European language, but most of them are even worse. German is significantly harder because it has a way more complicated system of articles, pronouns, noun cases, conjugations, three genders, etc., on top of things like irregular verbs that people complain about in English. The only thing that makes English particularly difficult is that it doesn't use phonetic spelling, and it more than makes up for that in having a vast wealth of material to learn from, whereas the only reason to learn German is to read Hegel in das original deutsch or something.
The reason nips don't learn English is because they're lazy, not because it's particularly hard. They don't learn Chinese either despite the fact they could probably be competent within a year because of all the kanji they've memorized.

>>38456529
Sorry best you can get is a literal retarded moose

>>38460539
>no gendered language bs
>You mean like, for nouns? Actress, stewardess, huntress...
You are right but also wrong since you can use non-gender terms or female oriented gender terms there is no male equivalent that specifically denotes male only. So yes there is but only if your being incredibly hyperbolic and its probably a dying language trend anyway cause of the push for more gender neutral normative vocabulary as a norm

>>38471185
>They don't learn Chinese either despite the fact they could probably be competent within a year because of all the kanji they've memorized.
Except Kanji looks different from Simplified Chinese.
And some characters have different meanings even if they do look exactly the same.
Chinese grammar is closer to English, so nips will die on that part.
It's literally easier for a Westerner to learn Chinese than it is for a nip.

>>38471647
>there is no male equivalent that specifically denotes male only
fiancé

>>38471651
It's very easy for Chinese to learn Japanese and they face all those same problems, the chinks translate everything instantly whereas English-speakers wait years and end up getting some garbage "touched-up" MTL from a Malaysian who doesn't speak English or Japanese. If anything the biggest barrier for JOPs is the sounds in Chinese.

>>38466564
English grammar is not tied to words. The grammar is fundamentally German, there's just parts of it that have fallen out of use thus giving people the impression it's been 'compromised' or something. It's why it's not considered a creole despite most of the vocabulary being Latin-derived, because those loanwords are used via German grammar, not Latin.

>>38471185
The fact remains that English in particular is a mashup of other languages (see my point about vocab for example).
I never said that German was easy either, but this wasn't about comparing them.

>>38471647
>you can use non-gender terms or female oriented gender terms there is no male equivalent that specifically denotes male only
Yes, same as in German. But it doesn't really matter whether *you* want to use use it, it's still part of the language and as such you're still gonna have to deal with it when learning.

>>38472398
>English in particular is a mashup of other languages
This isn't really true. >>38472099 put it better than I did: English is a language that uses a highly simplified version of German grammar but a mostly French and Latin vocabulary. Most of the those words ESLs have trouble with come from the smaller set of words of Germanic origin, but they're a small subset that can be easily memorized.
All the stuff you're talking about is worse in other European languages. Yes, there are a few gendered nouns in English, like "actress" or "empress". But in French, German, Spanish, etc., every single noun is gendered, and you will sound like a drooling retard for saying "le" when you should say "la". There is no way around this problem beyond memorizing the genders. Besides historical reasons like the UK and US being the dominant powers, the lack of these complicated grammatical rules is what allowed English to become the international language and why there's so many excellent ESLs all over the world, even if they sometimes say "mouses" instead of "mice".

>>38473291
>every single noun is gendered
Yeah but in English, instead of learning the gender of every noun, you'll have to learn the pronunciation of every word. Is that really easier?
>Besides historical reasons like the UK and US being the dominant powers, the lack of these complicated grammatical rules is what allowed English to become the international language
Pretty sure it was mainly the former. If simplicity had been the deciding factor, we should be speaking Esperanto or something.

>>38474747
>Yeah but in English, instead of learning the gender of every noun, you'll have to learn the pronunciation of every word. Is that really easier?
I agree with you that this is a problem. Even native speakers struggle with pronunciation. I have family who can read English perfectly but are completely unable to speak to me in English. But yes, it is much less of a problem than attaching a bunch of grammatical rules attached to each word that have to be memorized. If I had my way I would simply have everything written phonetically but English's grammatical simplicity still makes it uniquely easy to learn. A large reason irregular nouns like "think/thought" stick out so much to ESL learners is that they're just so rare, whereas many other European languages will have that kind of shit everywhere.
>If simplicity had been the deciding factor, we should be speaking Esperanto or something.
Esperanto sucks. Something like Esperanto that achieves simplicity by reducing the vocabulary and using compound words to convey abstract concepts could be useful for international communication but you'd never want to watch movies or read scientific papers in something like that. English isn't the objectively easiest language on Earth even if you restrict it to natural languages but it is easier for most foreign learners than other European languages.

>>38456910
t. EOP mongoloid

>>38456529
>its like watching a jp chuuba talk and vent out only to get english chat responses holy fuck
god I miss those days. I mean sure the current meta of chat being full of broken gibberish Japanese is funny as fuck but waiting for a chuuba to translate "lol you should play fall guys" mid-zatsudan will probably never be topped.

>>38456910
Maybe between Romaji based languages this is true, learning a language that doesn't use the same alphabet that you use looks hard.

>>38456712
She will never do it she only says she will study english just to charm you eop faggots.

>>38457970
Nazuna probably regrets signing with vshojo. Kson threw her into the sea with no life jacket or back up plan.

>>38478439
She does. She constantly complains she can't stream on her native Youtube.

>>38478626
Doesn't she still have her other acct for that?

>>38478658
She streams on her alt, the streams from there are actually somewhat increasing and she just got a new Mike the cat model commissioned that she'll debut sometime this month.

>>38478931
I don't see the problem then. She's got the Vshojo thing going for the contract and some guaranteed collabs if she needs it, and then has her own account for doing what she wants to do

>>38457970
>This is not Kekson anon, Nazuna had never said anything about talent freedom.
time stamp? I wait for you

>>38479176
Timestamp... for Nazuna never having said something?

>>38479409
Correct. I'll wait.

>>38479481
0:00:00 in her debut video through to 2:48:18 in her froot+silver apex collab

>>38479176
>kson
>said talent freedom
c´mon

>>38479409
>kson
>said talent freedom

>>38479758
I neither know nor care about kson, why are you (You)ing me about her

>>38479176
......anon I think it's time you take your pills.

>>38479869
you claim that she said something.
I want you to prove to me that it is true.
if you can't, it's a lie.
it's simple, isn't it?

>>38480018
I didn't claim shit about kson, ksongumi. Go bother another anon.

if you are not the
>>38457970
why do you answer?

I forgot how retarded ESL's are, first wanting a timestamp of Nazuna not saying something and then wanting proof that Kson was banging on about talent freedom after the board was literally spammed to death with it when that happened.

>>38480196
Because I got fucking (You)ed, dipshit

>>38480406
I just demanded the timestamp of not having said anything for the meme

>>38456910
Yes, because the language with a 46 character writing system, another 46 characters that make the exact same sounds as the first 46, and thousands of minecraft enchant runes that take 10 seconds to draw a single one of them is so much easier. There’s a reason why when jp people that know fuck all English are sent a supa in English, they can still read it out to a decent level even if they don’t know what any of it means. The only think difficult about the language is is pronunciation and silent letters.

>>38480406
>after the board was literally spammed to death with it when that happened.
then it is not difficult to have a time stamp now.
Why no one has published it?

>>38456529
What Vtubers should VShojojp hire?

>>38473291
In most longform writing, the share of Germanic vocabulary used will converge to about 70%. Those words are the workhorses of English.

For JP's, vshojo is just a debuff.

>>38458661
English is a very intuitive language but its not a logical one.
Because of this its easy to get a hold of and speak with some passing understanding.
But if your going into the guts of the language and trying to properly understand it the Frankenstein matter of its construction and history as a melting pot language make it hard to truly understand like on an academic level that lets you understand more complex sentences.

>>38484378
Japan has cottoned on to the fact that immersion is the cure to this problem. Eikaiwa are a really nifty concept.

>>38461957
>half of the post is victimization bait shit
>the other half is unrelated pity bait shit

As mentally healthy as your oshi

>>38456529
>god please hire another japanese chuuba to vshoujo
that would be nice

>>38460539
>>38458661
>grammar is simple and lenient
Im late, but here.

JPs don't like whores

>>38456961
>But in the same way that JP is hard for English speakers, the inverse is equally true.
most of them already know english, the problem is that they are afraid to use it, when learning a language its normal to look like an idiot while using it, they cannot handle that, their personal image its extremely important for them.

>>38492092
>Noel's RM: Am I a joke to you?

>>38456712
It's literally impossible for native Japs. As in, their mouths and tongues can't form English phonemes anymore - a skill that only occurs during childhood. Also the existence of katakana will prevent them from ever properly learning English.

>>38456529
telling JP to stream exclusively on twitch is basically like telling EN to stream exclusively on nnd, nearly suicidal

>>38456529
anon as a japanese girl no one wants to go to vshojo, therr are literally better options out there for a jp girl when it comes to corpo, the only reason this girl went there is because she had no future in jp corpos and because of kson
no sane jo girl will go to a corpo with only one streamer, menhera one at that

>>38499147
>jo girl
whew lad

>Rushia's entire audience were english speaking simps
>Rushia not only doesn't speak english, she isn't trying to learn it beyond "HELLO!!1"
It's honestly inexcusable. Why does Gunrun tolerate this level of laziness tolerated?

>Rushia's entire audience are english speaking simps
>Rushia not only doesn't speak english, she isn't trying to learn it beyond "HELLO!!1"
It's honestly inexcusable. Why does Gunrun tolerate this level of laziness?

>>38491553
>english has a handful of wacky inconsistencies
>therefore it is uniquely hard to learn
oh boy just wait until you hear about literally every other language

>>38456712
I think you guys severely underestimate just how stupid this girl is. It's not like meme stupid, it's like actually-how stupid, like how did she not accidentally fall down an open sewer manhole or drown looking up at the rain. How do you think she got fired from Holo in the first place? Being monumentally stupid.

>>38499144
good thing she has Mike the Cat still at least.

Please cease bumping this faggot's thread.

Why does Kson not collab with her? Did Nazuna already manage to run her off?

>>38456910
I am learning Japanese right now and this language is fucking stupid compared to English. We have 26 letters in our alphabet. No surprises. Want to know how many hiragana, katakana and kanji there are? You don't want to know. Japanese needs language reformation badly.
>but English has funny rules that don't make sense
Even if you butcher English or spelling, most people can comprehend what you're saying. Japanese is full of nasty honorifics and polite and not polite forms. Is someone older than you? You have to address them differently. Is someone younger than you? You have to address them differently. There's a form of Japanese so formal used for people high in the government that normal Japanese people need subtitles when it's on TV. There's so many things in Japanese that are just archaic.

All Japs should learn English, period. We should force it on them and all Asians, like the glorious colonizers we are. They must learn the joy that in English, you can just be an asshole to everyone. It is our way of life.

>>38503838
Yes Japanese is very stupid, but you're fundamentally ignoring the fact that you are literally wired to find your own native language easily intelligible and English is still very hard to learn, especially for non-European language-speakers. Now stop bumping this fucking stupid thread.

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>>38503897
English isn't hard, you seanigger. Bump.

>>38503838
>All Japs should learn English, period
No. Sharing a language would mean that the cultures would also become more similar, but western culture has nothing to offer to Japan. The language barrier prevents japanese culture from being tainted.

>>38499144
That's just wrong. The 3 biggest and most watched Japanese streamers all stream on Twitch...

>>38456712
Its forgiving not really easy

>>38505538
Those people don't have much overlap with the vtuber fanbase. Junfags in particular are mostly vtuber antis.

>>38456529
You get another one a year and a half from now

>>38502193
>Rushia's entire audience are english speaking simps
My faggotsan most of her fans are still Japanese.

>>38456529
You don't have to watch em

I don't want vsluts to hire good chuubas

>>38456529
ehhhhhhh

>>38498848
It's English, words don't need pronounced properly. They can be pronounced completely incorrectly actually.

>>38525118
True, Americans can't pronounce anything correctly and people understand them

>>38463568
Not every company has 300+ Japanese middlemen in make-work positions. Vshojo only exists to provide merch, sponsorship, and tech support - what the girls do beyond that it their own concern. Some of them do regular "vshojo" off-collab style content when they're interested like Mouse, but on the other hand you have people like Veibae who newcomers could be forgiven for thinking wasn't a member at all if it wasn't for the badge.

>>38525814
which is to say: they do things slower because they're a smaller company, and because a lot of shit just isn't their business to get involved in unless a talent explicitly asks for it.

>>38456529
Really painful to watch, feels like the EN vthots were forced into it, poor Nazuna, she did her best.