/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>38348223
the only uncharted territory to explore is that for the EN branches there is a large discrepancy between the channel localization (JP) and the worldwide audience.

all these mental gymnastics just to not admit it was Tempiss

>>38348407
oh no tempiss was a very heavy hit, just curious what susan has been cooking this year for christmas

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>108,918: Toya (Nijisanji)
>81,211: Hololive (Hololive)
>48,421: Miko (Hololive)
>38,880: Polka (Hololive)
>36,410: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,961: Marine (Hololive)
>30,006: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,189: Fubuki (Hololive)
>23,836: Lize (Nijisanji)
>22,147: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,720: Mito (Nijisanji)
>19,045: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,370: Nerumero (Indie)
>17,536: Gura (Hololive)
>16,504: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,699: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,046: Met (774 inc)
>13,562: Ars (Nijisanji)
>13,089: Mio (Hololive)
>12,926: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,176: Tamaki (Noripro)
>12,093: Hibari (Nijisanji)
>12,047: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,714: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,595: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,009: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>10,679: Towa (Hololive)
>10,500: Botan (Hololive)
>10,451: Watame (Hololive)

GRIM

>>38348503
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Miko, Pekora, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
223x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
22x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38348223
Uh, I mean I’m not Japanese so I can’t for the life of me tell you what their situation has beeen like on youtube but content creators have been arguing about the algorithm and constant changes for years. Not even just years, like a fucking decade by now. People’s channels going from popular, sought after content reels to bottom of the barrel views, only from the most dedicated. Also it’s like universally known that only 20-50% of viewers are even subscribed to begin with. It’s why the whole “please like, subscribe and comment” shilling came about to begin with. Because videos were constantly being fed to completely new viewers.

Like, I’m not disagreeing there’s recline. I’m just saying that it’s not out of this world that something like algo changes could happen when it’s been a historical issue to begin with

Should Cover aim for more "Comfy" chubas in future gens? It's pretty clear that other than the charisma freak that is Gura, the other successful EN vtubers are just "wholesome comfy woman" aka Ina/Fauna.

>>38348571
Well, they gonna need a replacement for Ina.

>>38348502
>just curious what susan has been cooking this year for christmas
Fuck, you just reminder me that not only will Susan fuck with CCV again like she's done every winter, but Jan-March are DOGSHIT TIER for streamers in general.

>>38348571
yes, crass women are a turn-off for the general Hololive audience

>>38348571
At least one comfy.
Also at least one that doesn't hate the job.
Also at least one that know what the job is.
Also at least one that want to be an idol.
Also at least one that streams.

>>38348630
>Fuck, you just reminder me that not only will Susan fuck with CCV again like she's done every winter
Today is the second anniversary of the 2020 algo change
>pic related for the HoloJP crossing that period with a recent Niji comparison

>>38348702
Why can't all of them be all of those things? That would be nice.

>>38348702
Dammit, that's Sora!

>>38348655
> literally niji humor
Its very easy to dislike this retard

>>38348630
Which is also why so many people detest the idea of EN3 happening around this time. It's so fucking stupid to debut people in the worst months of livestreaming that it makes cover look even dumber for just not releasing them when people were looking for it months back

>>38348792
They've created a trap for themselves now though: release at a shit time, or release far too late.

>>38348792
EN should just grit their teeth and hope for it to be announced right after HoloFes on the hype of Council and IDs on a 3D stage, similar to ID3 this year

Bae is down for the count tonight, a bit less overlap for the others

https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1599522310230511616

>>38348772
I mean, she openly admitted in wanting to change the Hololive culture

>>38348742
I suspect there might be at least one in jp branch.

>>38348702
you will get 2 Mori's, 2 Kronii's and one Magni but female

>>38348856
These girls need a whole lot more of vitamins A, C, D and K plus getting an air filter to their rooms.
It's summer in Australia right now, she should be in peak health

>>38348906
>>38348906
>>38348771

Yes! Sora!

>>38348856
It's okay. Hot girl is here to save the day

>>38348941
So 3 Moris?

>>38348941
>Magni but female
I though that guy was already Mori but male

>>38348941
Sounds too good to be true

>>38348941
Magni but female might be nice. At least you could hate fuck her.

>>38348880
You have to actually be popular and influential to start to change things. A shame no one ever told her that, or a good thing I guess

>>38348955
Some anons said Bae has had sniffles and flu for months now, she was sneezing a fuck ton during chadcast

>>38348955
Getting 6-8 hours of sleep a night would also be a good start

>>38348880
>>38349114
How much does /#/ blame Trash Taste for Ollie, Mori, etc.?
Seems to me like a disease vector.

>>38348702
>Also at least one that doesn't hate the job.
>Also at least one that streams
Takanashi Kiara

>>38349273
they were already predisposed to the eceleb carousel, TT was only the bridge to ironic or closeted weebs and let themselves become tourist central for some time.

>>38348965
Don't post her anon. It makes me think about her new mvs nunbers and i have to cringe

>>38349273
I don't like trash taste at all but those girls were after e-celeb clout more than fans. That's how they ended up there. If it wasn't trash taste it would have been someone else.

>>38349285
I give her that. She also seems to fixed her personality somewhat over the years. But, her voice, I just can't anon. I tried. Trust to that. I tried.

fuck it. who's the AVtuber with the biggest numbers? i know one of you anons know

>>38348571
Ah yes, the wholesome comfy murderous owl.

>>38349487
He said successful

>>38348334
that's a big girl

>>38349379
New MV doesn't have 2.0, doesn't count!

>>38349350
>>38349410
>those girls were after e-celeb clout more than fans
this explains so much. Why didn't i notice? huh

I think EN would be in a much better place right now if they didn't start with golden spoons in their mouths. why try when you'll be rewarded regardless?

>>38349410
I mean in the end the trash taste collab was a good thing it give holo en a butch of fans and spread the name of vtubers to anime fans.

Fauna 5.3k on part 3 of Bioshock.
What /#/ thinks of this numbers?
I would like to say good, but, at the same time..
Tho I'm happy that at least someone plays multipart games that are good.

>>38349633
Numbers wise probably not, but content wise? Without a doubt. To be honest it seems like half of them have given up, and this spills over into the rest of the branch because it kills the collabs that hold the box together.

>>38349725
Unless those fans are buying stuff and watching streams then I'm not sure if they're worth much. Was there even an increase in numbers after that? I'd think anyone who watched that and was into vtubers is probably watching Ironmouse over Holo.

What did we learn last thread, anon?

>>38349477
Karin Necoma, from KemomimiRefle?
Does her lewds on FC2 IIRC, but still outrank the three iLUNA girls and Aster too on Youtube

>>38349772
is bioshock a buff or debuff?

>>38349547
for you

Do you want to kill your numbers even more?Despise your fanbase like Kronii, Ame or Kana? Join the vtuber tag #VTuberProm. Numbers killer garantee.

>>38349725
>give holo en a butch of fans
The very same fans that brought the derogatory sentence "idol culture" into the EN branch common parlance and that are likely the ones whose voice Omega heart "clamoring" for Tempus

>>38349816
Not sure in general, but for fauna she completely blows past all of the story and atmosphere, which makes the stream shit.

>>38349772
5.5k at part 3 and still rising? Its fine. Will probbably cap out at 6k. Maybe 7

>>38348880
I don't blame ollie not at all especially since this place spread the yubi gate shit that force her to get mental help and only really stop is due to her face leak. Hololive can learn a lot from nijisanji not going to lie and I'm saying this as a holofan

>>38348655
And she was wondering why she decline..

>>38349845
kek, not even Kronii would be this dumb, let alone Ame which even in 2022 did max GFE valentine for her audience

>>38349816
Isn't it like any longer playthrough that it gets more debuff the more you play it? No one wants to go back and watch the 2 streams they missed so most viewers are just repeats of the first two. And steadily dwindle down from there.

>>38349845
Make the OpenAI make you an ad message about this

>>38349923

>>38349868
>>38349802
I also think this.

>>38350000

>>38349633
I agree but I see it from a different point of view: if you succeed regardless of what you do, you don't get the valuable feedback of failure thus you have to evolve and improve using other methods of learning what works and what doesn't

>>38349379
>Check
>46K in 20h
How the fuck ? Isn't it an entirely new song ?

>>38349772
Fauna usually keeps rising until she hits primetime or gets overlapped. Her numbers should be fine.

>>38350081
Nah it was released on streaming platforms about 2 weeks ago

>>38349285
>Chimkin voice debuff > all the good things about her

>>38349772
meh, as long as she hits her 6k floor for games it should be fine

>>38348655
>>38348772
>>38349926
>Memory holing all the disgusting shit Gura said on stream

>>38350132
I've honestly no idea why each of her release flop so much

>>38349949
I have never seen a good tweet from a pre debut indie vtuber.

>>38350058
>>38349868
>>38349802
The en scene is just not into idols like jp so forcing the girls to be idols is a dumb idea. What was last popular female idol group in the west?

>>38350081
Nothing can save irys music

>>38349772
Fauna is the 0 churn lady, will keep catching stray viewers and raising until Gura stars.

>>38350168
But Gura is cute. Doesn't count.

>>38350179
None of her songs are good and she's not blessed by the algo

>>38349877
The first stream yeah. She acknowledged it and has been playing it much more slowly since the last stream.

>>38350179
Same reason her merch doesn't sell. Irystocrats are ungrateful

>>38350202
The numbers don't agree with your thesis. Where's all the holo fans fleeing idols to watch vshojo instead?

>>38350202
So solution is twitchification?
I started to watch hololive because it's not like all twitch streamers. Or, well,. wasn't.

>>38350179
Her voice and songs are very generic. Nothing that makes you want to replay it

>>38350179
She's doing well on apple music.

>>38350179
At some point you already know what to expect and that the song won't be anything special

>>38350269
She's getting the Kiara affect where her numbers and merch sales are shit but makes alot in SCs.

>>38350168
It's okay if you have big numbers

>>38350328
That's just called reading SCs for hours while never turning them off

>>38350156
6k get

>>38350328
Kiara music perform way way better than IRyS, though.

>>38350380
>SCs
Ah yes the meme

>>38350179
Her songs suck! Simple as. They really need to take note from kamitsubaki and assign a producer who can make best use of her voice and push her to improve beyond her current state

>>38350451
That would require that someone at EN management cared and JP wanted to actually invest in talent beyond bare minimum.

I love this girl…

>>38350179
I find it hilarious that 95% of IRyS releases got mogged by Sana

50 minutes in, 6k, and still rising slowly.

>>38350515
Why invest in someone who doesn't bring the numbers they expected? They probably saw her old covers views and thought they struck gold but got the opposite effect they wanted in the long run.

>>38350328
i don't blame people for not buying merch. most of it is insanely overpriced especially for what your getting

Irys's music and voice are simply too generic. She should try to make more catchy songs.

>>38350328
Kiaras music is doing very well and her merch only sells bad when compared to other myth members. Irys still hasn't got a single omocat merch that sold out

>>38350605
But my takoshi and my owlshi told me to only buy merch...

>>38350579
Seems about on par with part 2, which ended up as a 8k stream.

>>38350584
>Why invest in someone who doesn't bring the numbers they expected?
It's literally their job nigga. They chose her so, they should be the one to know what best to do with her

>>38350666
Her lanyard sold out...

>>38350650
>make more ... songs
She's not in control of her own music production

>>38350584
Even I listened to those old covers but had no idea who she was. Everyone listened to those cause they thought it was the original and weren't really following her. That being said, i still think she would be gold if they shilled her well and put some thought into how they release things. It's like they just throw it out there without any consideration for timing.

>>38350579
Ah yes the no overlap queen.

>>38350179
>4:47
Vtubers songs past 1:30 its just waste of effort, unless it's 100% animated.

>>38350650
Her Internet Overdose and Identity Covers are good.

>>38350605
Still not as overpriced and generic as anything niji ever produced, which is voice pack and keychains.

>>38350691
That's simple: just let her stream and forget about music

>>38350650
You want catchy songs? How about more chuuni hope shit instead? Your voice has been heard.

>>38350328
You can't compare Kiara and IRyS when the original post was about music views LMAO

Here a what if question which 6 person combination of 3 Hololive members and 3 females JP Nijis could give the highest numbers in a 3D live and what kind of number could they get

>>38350719
Funny how no EN girls have moved to Ina's slot permanently, since it apparently is an instant way to get great numbers according to some people in this thread.

>>38350786
She has plenty of songs that aren't like that and they don't do any better

>>38350709
Don't you think problem with timing is because of bureaucracy and/or incompetence in managing anything?
I mean, most of it soud like it should have been out months ago, but for some reasons half a years passes before release or they just crap it.
And if it's scraping project constantly, then I'm not suprised that talent's morale is low.

What’s happening here

>>38350789
Anon, most of those girls don't really care about their numbers and mostly stream at times convenient for them. The only one who would bother doing something like this are Fauna (and she pretty much did) and IRyS (and it's in the middle of the night for her)

>>38350605
That's the point nigga, people are buying it mainly because they want support their oshi. The goods is just a bonus.

>>38349926
Was she?

>>38350517
We know, Brian.

>>38350870
they chillin'

>>38350871
>IRyS (and it's in the middle of the night for her)
>7AM JST
Huh?

>>38350789
Kiara briefly mentioned streaming longer since Ina isn't streaming regularly.

>>38350788
Pekora Marine Aqua
Mito Lize Ange
60k?

>>38350957
Anon, yeah, it's effectively the middle of the night for her considering she's not waking up AT 6AM to set-up her stream for 7AM.

>>38350925
Is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktHtq5brmts

>>38351016
>doubled down

>>38351029
>doesn't care
I would have believed it if Kiara had said it, but not Ollie lol, it's just a cope because of ID3 mogg her so hard

This is how Fauna adverts her chat? Why couldn't Kronii learn from her?

>>38351268
What does adverts mean in this sentence?

>>38350168
You can say disgusting stuff as long as you know how to contextualize it.

>>38351373
>no streams at the tail end of the week
EN3 IS COMING!!!

>>38351268
Because unfortunately idol culture is a thing. Now watch my suggestive ASMR kronies.

Now this is just sad...

>>38351432
Nah, she's just having Nabi come over and just like in Korea, Nabi don't want to stream during her hiatus

>>38351471
oh look, they are new on the internet and old in real life.

>>38351374
Direct or guide, I'm guessing

>>38351471
How can someone be that retarded and yet still capable of forming sentences? It makes no sense.

>>38351471
What's the context?

>>38351374
Get them to stop hinting at story spoilers.

my unwell wife...

>>38351623
Reactor didn't know where the Hologirls stream at.

>>38351591
First rule of UX: The end user is a retarded baboon.
Second rule of UX: More clicks make the baboon bored.
Youtube fails at both.

>>38351471
How could a youtuber not know this shit?

>>38351748
If you don't live stream on youtube, the live tab will never appear on your channel.

>>38351678
YouTube only wants you to click American late night TV monologues.
All its algorithmic/UX/etc. "failures" are aimed at directing everyone to Colbert.
But they only hire troons and pajeets to implement it, so it's all fucked up.

>>38351373
got dam what are those badonkers

>>38351864
click don't recommend Colbert
Youtube: would you like some Corden instead?

>https://youtu.be/uLEpymWrv5o
Predictions?

>>38352010
4.5k

>>38352010
3k

>>38352010
2.5k

>>38352010
Won't even hit wheelchair tally

>>38350985
Depending on the shilling they could double that number

>>38351375
it's like the difference between making minor sexual innuendo on stream and just posting sex, cum, and pubes on twitter for some godawful reason.

>>38351591
>>38351560
The users are not retarded, Youtube is ABSOLUTELY RETARDED for splitting the channel into those tabs.
>pic related

If in the homepage you click the "LIVE" tab to see the **CURRENTLY LIVE** streams, and if in a channel without live streams (99% of the channels) the "LIVE" tab does not exist and you click the "VIDEOS" tab to see the past videos of that channel
>WHAT WOULD THE AVERAGE USER THINK THE "LIVE" TAB DOES IN THE CHANNEL?

That's obvious, for a regular user that is not used to channels with live streams, hitting one such channel will be the fucking first time ever they see the "LIVE" tab inside a channel after seeing it a million times in the homepage sending a person to the CURRENTLY live streams.

>upcoming streams
>all Anya

>>38352010
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
None are sadder than these
Aloupeeps will get cucked again

>>38352187

>>38352159
>sex, cum, and pubes
Ollie didn't say any of that though >>38348655

>>38352053
>>38352066
>>38352111
>>38352134
Really? Enna by herself is a 5k streamer. Now with Batsu game buff and an admittedly a low tier male that she can still use as a prop, she will blow the Yawnya out of the water.

>>38351748
Why would someone who doesn't stream know about the live tab? When making a UI, it's a pretty solid idea to make it for the stupidest person possible, because everyone above that will know how to use it.

>>38352010
1900

>>38352187
>950k viewers
> man, I remember when she'd hit a mil easy, is she reclining

Not mori is more of a buff than mori these days. This what not having a hag does to the branch shame.

>>38352280
4.5k is her usual slightly buffed number

>>38352254
I was talking about the difference in context and delivery of crass humor, not Ollie. My examples were all Vox btw.

>>38352187
GLOBAL ANYAFICATION!

>>38352404
>still hasnt removed the fucking Marine

>>38352187
>>38352404
Where to start with Anya?

shouldnt fauna get finale buff? this is grim.

>>38352010
2.9k. is it just a 1 person Collab? This game can have 4 players, why not invite 2 more pe7?

>>38352475
Her lectures on Socrates are always a good start

Love urself

>>38352010
I assume the ennafag is going to anti IRyS even harder to deflect

>>38352502
Nobody cares about the end, the real buff moment is when you meet Ryan

>there are people still coping that the EN market isn't dead

>>38352502
That game only has a Would you Kindly Buff. Everything after that isn't worth watching.

>>38352526
Start with the greeks, I see.

>>38352576
Y-you don't understand, long series debuff, game debuff, etc etc

>>38352322
You can talk about it, she's streaming with Ironmouse, which is a vtuber, it's on topic.

>>38351029
Well to be fair her CCV is not significantly lower than other IDs bar the likes of Kaela or Kobo from what I've seen and she doesn't seem to chase the numbers much with her content.

>>38352576
Uh bros where did the 90k holoENbox from IRyS redesign go?

>>38352010
Post the Kyo's "cuck" tweet lads, kek

7k for the kirin

Ironmouse with 8k looks like haruka buff the branch up a bit.

>>38352502
If anything, this game's finale is a debuff. Fontaine is a shitty villain and a supremely shitty final boss.

>>38352576
thats still put her in the top 60~ streams on twitch right now and thats with twitch numbers.

>>38352642
I don't bot anyone but IRyS.

>>38352657
Yeah, final is where this game goes to complete shit. What the fuck were they thinking with that dumb boss.

>>38352502
Is anything but Gura not grim? It's just post-novelty value Myth, the few zooms who care who could add growth are on twitch watching youtube reactions.

Ms. 7k

such a nice discussions we were having here and then the nijiniggers showed up.

>>38352744
So normal average Fauna numbers?

>>38352804
yeah, just hitting her neutral floor

Luxiem's sisters actually switch to watching kpop kek. Wonder if anons here actually switch to akb48 and etc.

>>38352892
>AKB48
>After the recent fiasco
Kek

>>38352576
This timezone is pretty dead for hololive in general isn't it?

>>38352695
holocope

>>38352915
What?

Kaela's morning stream.

>>38352991
>The ace caught dating with her bf
>The general manager (or whatever it was) talking about abolishing the no-dating rule, a view that shared by the ace
>Got shat on so hard by the fans
>The ace ended up graduating.

>>38352892
If I'm ever done with Hololive, I'll probably be done with Idols and vtubers in general. There's 3 Holos that I watch everything they do. If I lost interest in them, I'd be done with it. I don't like watching Idols, I like watching my favorite holos be Idols. If that makes any sense.

>>38353042
My eyes are bleeding

http://c.tieba.baidu.com/p/8170521380?prev=frs&source=ac.tieba.baidu.com-bpb-c8172815968-d0-e0#/

Vox should tweet more and filter his audience more. The comments are always hilarious when he does it.

>>38352991
they're removing the anti-relationship rule for their talents after one of them got caught in a boyfriend scandal.

>>38353073
She probably got pushed out be the other members that wanted no part of that drama.

>>38352892
I sometimes try to see the grass in other lawns. I've watched Pippa, the recent Wactor debut, the jew corpos and Veibae playing Bloodborne.

>>38353100
>even they are disgusted
kek

>>38353073
>>38353107
Nice.

Bros is it true that Hololive only got ID3 and Tempus for this year?

Irys is doing a collab with Gura instead.
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1585314522436206592

>>38352892
I'm pretty jaded on vTubers as a whole desu. I tried the Jewra but its just hard starting over again

>>38353239
EN3 this weekend. Trust the plan.

>>38350745
Holy deflection

>>38353239
Gamma...

>>38352892
no i dont watch hololive for idols i watch them for the shenanigans

>click update
>no new posts
/#/ graduation when

>>38353077
Yeah same. The cool thing about Hololive is following a bunch of autistic socially awkward womanlets and seeing them grow into stars and fulfilling their dreams.
I don't give a single fuck about manufactured fake ass korean wenches.

>HoloEN Advent already has Kiara repeating
Where the absolute fuck is the rest of EN? How is it that Mumei and Fauna are the only ones who gave a shit enough to get it done so fast? I would say Mori too but she was a dumb bitch and couldn't even double check her own work

>>38353533
The male collaber civil whore is real

>>38353512
still better the rest of the board. Graduate everything bellow /#/

>>38353107
Sounds like that didn't happen in the end:

>>38353073
Because the JP fans are fucking BASED but it's a reminder that if the numbers are... too good and hololive becomes mainstream one day they will not give a fuck about what we feel anymore.

>>38353512
>clicking update

Amouranth and pokimane can only reach 6k when they usually can get 10k two months ago. Xqc down by 10k than his usual numbers. This isn't limited to vtubers only so is this a seasonal thing or people just decided to touch grass suddenly?

>>38353533
Gura said she's in, I'm more curious about Ina...

>>38353533
NO MALES

>>38353659
>too good and hololive becomes mainstream one day they will not give a fuck about what we feel anymore
Kek and you think it's not happening already, anon?

They update how emote menu works on mobile. If you are not a member, now you can see what they look like

>>38353533
Mori got kisses from Kiara live on stream though so who really won?

>>38353711
Didn't that Mizkif dude have some breakdown or something recently due to low viewership?

>>38353747
Clover...

>>38353711
I don't know man. It's like the lockdowns were lifted.

>>38353512
Lazy whores can't even keep the thread moving.

>>38353766
>Mori got kisses from Kiara live on stream though so who really won?
Kek is this bitch come crawling back to revive takamori once her numbers are in the gutter?

>>38353267

>>38353747
Nice, but they could do something with the UI, it's horrendous

>>38353712
Funny, she wouldn't say what day she was cause she knew chumbuds would only watch that day.

>>38353880
Gura is in japan and she flashed her perfectly flat tits to IRyS

>>38353770
Yes because he only got like 5k (20k streamer) and his chat is dead as fuck.

>>38353711
I personally droped twitch because of the ads, there's no working script or adblock that can save the current experience.

>>38353920
>5k
Forget Gura he's not even on IRyS' tier lmao

>>38353794
Wasn't that like a year ago? We only locked down for 2 weeks where I'm from then went back to normal so I don't really know what happened everywhere else.

>>38353711
twitch ever evolving adwar against adblock made me drop it besides for 1 flesh streamer who i find entertaining enough to drop 5 dollars to stop ads on i dont watch it otherwise anymore. plus yeah lockdowns and summer over recline across all streaming likely

>>38347316
Also ever since April most holos have used some combination of slow mode or minimum sub limits which only affects non members, so that'll bump up member chat percentage too

>>38354004
Kek there's practically zero restriction for a year already in my country.

>>38353077
>>38353527

Japanese idols can be very varied afaik, some of them are awkward nerds etc. I feel like I could get into them if there was active community around it in the West with translations and people talking about members on a daily basis and stuff, that's what pushed hololive to where it is now but it's not like it would work only for Vtubers or streamers for the matter but if you have regular idols that also stream on a regular basis so you always have new content to talk about...

https://youtu.be/mcCpCgQToj0
https://youtu.be/ltxMtXha8_c
Ragus sub 500. With the homos overlap again?

>>38353711
Last thing I remember about twitch is that a dude was making his own streaming platform with a 90% sub income ratio towards streamers

>>38354004
Imagine living under a non-socialist government. Couldn't be me.

>>38354037
Slow mode is the main contributor, most of the gifted members aren't going to be watching and chatting frequently anyways

>>38353711
>>38353794
I mean yeah, streaming was the perfect solution to the pandemic, lots of hours of mindless entertainment to pass the time and the more intimate interactions with the streamer helped with the loneliness. Now people are back to their usual work/school schedules and don't have 4 consecutive hours every single day to watch someone play vidya.
Oh and the esports scene seems pretty much fucking dead everywhere, and that was a pretty huge buff to the streaming scene, pretty much all the top fleshtubers started that way,

>>38353963
He wasn't even there I think. Just left the stream up with a script that lets twitch chat play pokemon. So pretty decent numbers considering that. But chat went ahead and released his starter so he got tilted and took it down.

>>38354084
Well, good luck i guess. the only reason why twitch even went full retard with their ads is because it's fucking costly to run a streaming platform. These kind of alternative site ended up flopping once it gained traction.

>>38354084 (me)
seems like this dude doesn't wanna work with apple too, not even elon was able to remove the tax for any purchases on anything apple related
unless this runs under crypto I don't see it happening

>>38354073
It's harder for him to get 700 than it is for Fauna to get 7000.

holy fuck bioshock glitchless it's so boring, gimme the kino speedrun with the body hover

>>38354172
>Trainwreck
Kek, he will just swindle the money for another gambling stream

>>38354172
>Trainwreck
the dude only want a place to keep gambling and post is adref to keep grifting milions out of his viewership

>>38354172
i love when this morons hit reality. There is a reason beyond greed that this companies don't do 95-5 splits.

>>38354274
running a streaming site must be the most expensive shit ever with all the data usage

>>38354274
not even YT can do it and they are already running at a loss
they get it from harvesting data but that's another business

>>38354178
she might hit 8k

>>38353533
Would you rather want tempiss? Some homobeggars wanted them included you know.

>>38353533
What is it even about?

Irys status?

>>38354324
No I just want the ENs to give a shit. It seems like it's only fucking Fauna and Mumei that care.

>>38354319
easy, gura 40min

>>38354319
Game is almost over so probably not. 7.8k max imo.

>>38349472
To be honest I never really saw a problem with her personality. Her issue has always been her voice and, later on, her erratic timezone choice. The whole perosnality thing feels like one of those cases where schizos spam it so much around here it started affecting how she's perceived.

>>38354355
Back to her usual numbers.

>>38354319
Not the point I was trying to make.

>>38349802
Anecdotal but I came in through gigguk'a video on vtubers and I literally have more Holo merch than I have display places now so

>>38354319
Think he meant Fauna manage to get that 7k almost effortlessly meanwhile the nigga had to fight for that 700

uh, whos going to save regis from 3view today?

>>38353739
Not really, especially not for EN that's why not-Calli is trying to get the normie yesman twitch fans so badly.

>>38354407
>>38354484
I understand. Just wanted to mention her getting 8k maybe on part 3 of Bioshock.

>>38354467
Honestly I think you must be the outlier. Unironically if we want a proof of how big the TT and Hololive audience overlaps are these days we could just look at Mori's numbers.

>>38353711
No Pandemic = Better and more Movies/Tv shows to watch so less time to watch live streamers.
Even the Esports scene lost 30/40% viewership on their main tournaments.

>>38354387
I think it started from her direct way of wording some things and saying some completely unnecessary things. It comes across as rude and some people feel like she's being a bitch either to them or to their oshi in collabs.

>>38353794
I dunno about everyone else, but in the US at least there haven't been lockdowns since May/June 2020. There were a bunch of other rules of course, but a lot of states dropped these around summer 2021 if they hadn't already, and the holdouts did so in early 2022 since it was an election year. So, the recline probably has other factors besides Covid rules, which might just be one piece. Should also be noted that NijiEN is still reclining even as China is doing another round of lockdowns, and JP numbers are still great even though they finally nixed many of their restrictions.

>>38354515
No, I meant the
>they will not give a fuck about what we feel anymore
It's varied between members, and it's definitely there, even in EN especially.

>>38354570
didn't LoL finals broke the record this year of non-chinese viewerships? granted it was Faker vs Deft but alas

kek 8k right at the end

What the fuck, that was it? What kind of anticlimatic ending was that?

8k DORYAAAAAAA

>>38354664
Kino.

>>38354467
I'm not saying no good fans came from that, but the numbers didn't seem to change much from the collab which leads to the belief that the amount viewers gained the collab wasn't large.

>>38354664
>>38354689
Nice, nice.

>>38354664
Huh. Shouldn't have doubted her. I expected her to just fall short at 7.8-7.9k.

>>38354664
the patented Hololive finale peak

>>38354037
oh yea that was after the french raids that killed kobo two times

>>38354172
so how does he plan to make money and plan to pay for the servers etc.

Holy shit Mumei just got screwed over on members stream cause her group project members dumped everything on her 30 mins before it's due. I really think she's gonna take another break from Uni after this semester.

>>38354772
gambling scammers as sponsors

>>38353512
where did all the faggots go to? why didnt they tell us? ddi they just fuck off from the hobby completely or just this mongolian board?

>>38354073
isn't that a dude?

>>38354772
Because it's the el plan for these:
>>38354202
>>38354260

>>38354652
Peak viewership is higher because of faker and game 5 but overall LOL worlds viewership drop 30/40% average on most of its series before the finals.

>>38354811
Ah yes, the classic useless member of a group project that only show their uselessness on the deadline day. Man, how I love Uni life.

>>38354575
Yeah, she's not my favorite or anything but I watch and like Kiara, and she does come across as kind of bitchy or rude sometimes. Probably a combination of ESL and being one of the more assertive ones in a batch of meek introverts. I think she's aware of it somewhat but just blames it on her "European bluntness."

>>38354818
A lot of bans happened last night. They'll be back after taking a short break and working on some projects.

>>38354828
Timezones for EU and KR where absolute garbage tho, and that's where western viewership come from.

>>38354883
She's aware. Think after or before that maldives vacation with Reine she mentioned about Reine having no problem wth her "bluntness" as one of the reason why she loves her so much.

I was almost afraid it was a Z, but apparently that was just people flocking in as she reached the ending.

>>38354821
Yes, and he's the one who got mind broken by tempus in apex

>>38354811
I'm convinced that group project at Uni are socialist indoctrination. Everyone but that one that saves group's asses will love socialism after getting passing grade.

>>38354879
The good thing about it is that Mumei is the kind of person that rats out the useless members whenever they do this. She talked about it before when they left everything up to her, she put in a note at the end showing how much everyone else didn't contribute.

>>38354879
She's already mentioned that this is happened to her before. Poor girl

>>38354919
Nah this isn't bans related, it's probably the euros being too tired to shitpost after the world Cup a few hours ago

>>38354664
>>38354994
Very nice
>>38354811
Hope she ensures they get a failing grade for the assessment.

>>38354972
Makes sense, Reine has a somewhat similar personality, though it isn't as intense.

>>38355033
Ohh thats surprising. Dont watch her often but always thought she was the shy try not not to stir shit type.

>>38354811
I am so glad I no longer have to deal with schooling, Holy shit

>>38354743
Nah, she's not IRyS. This is a joke. I'm just ribbing. Please don't take this as a tribalist shitpost

>>38355199
>Asking forgiveness for a joke
Society has mindbroken you.

>>38348502
with susan cutting off the flow of newcomers falling into the rabbit hole we're in for some bad times for the next year. I hope Yagoo is prepared. Relying on Youtube was always a risky prospect.

>>38355259
I've made a joke before that turned into shitflinging and derailed threads before I'm tired of it

>>38355242
CAM ON ALTARAE

>>38355132
She's shy and introverted but she lashes out when she feels someone is wronging her. She's also pretty stubborn in some strange ways.

>>38355242
>Fauna > powergap
You love to see it

>>38354965
Not really since KR did their part if you look at the stats and EU isn't really that affected for NA timezone since there is only a game or two where they need to watch past midnight.
Also remember Worlds schedule is mostly on weekend so honestly timezone cope isn't it.
I would say EU being trash is more of the problem.

>>38355242
FauFau dominating as usual

>>38354883
She swears a lot too

>>38355298
Same, I posted a funny image a few days ago with a question to get a couple yous. the thread devolved into a shit filled hell hole in minutes so I left and came back after it calmed down.

>>38355259
Iris fags are quite sensitive

>>38355266
>I hope Yagoo is prepared
Pretty sure that's why Cover's dumping money to develop HoloEarth, that thing is less a game and more a platform for fans to interact with their favorite talents.

Pre mogged that whore nephilim

>>38355242
The queen of the hour

>>38355409
Honestly I think he's doing this to decrease reliance on YT algo.

>>38355242
GRIM. Graduate everything bellow Fauna.

>>38355242
Aster asmr not even 1k the absolute state

>>38355338
maybe because i got burned very early on play-ins that were ending on ludicrous hours for EU, and the fuckup of Mexico > media shit > NA basically didn't made possible for many teams to scrim, a shitshow all around.

>>38355409
Also the assets they're developing for HoloEarth can also be used for their 3D Lives.

>>38355409
And people doubted yagoo's vision

>>38354387
She have some menhera issues dating to before her time in hololive but it probably have more to do with being open about her bad thoughts and moods than others. She also had some funny moments like one time she cried and ended stream when a viewer told her that he doesn't like Takamori, she was an easy target I guess and we had only 5 EN members to shitpost about at the time... I don't really get the voice thing, Kiara's fake pekora laugh can get annoying but other than that it's perfectly normal, Fauna and even mumei sound way more unnatural when you think about it and it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Current Top 10

>>38354883
'European bluntness' is a very real thing. I'm doing doing my masters in th U.S. right now, and part of why I chose to do it here was because I though it' be similar to home. It mostly is, but I feel like I have to walk on eggshells and force a smile when I'm not with friends. I get her frustration because sometimes I don't understand why I'm perceived as rude for simple small talk.

>>38355242
I almost thought it's Moona's asmr from the thumbnail, what a let down

>>38355531
It's not her voice being unnatural that's the problem, the problem is that she sounds like a screeching harpy, and if you ever worked retail before and had to deal with that demanding entitled housewife, her voice comes from. The exact same mold

>>38355242
Mysterio return stream and Vox melting down stream will save EN vtubing

>>38355592
Isn't that just a US Uni environment?

>>38355654
Go away nijinig

Fauna Pokemon tomorrow

>>38355531
Fauna and Mumei sound unnatrual compared to normal people but they don't sound "annoying"

I feel like Fauna and Kiara's recent collab is a perfect example of this. Fauna sounded like she was on xanax compared to Kiara. The tone and pitch isn't the only problem. kiara just constantly feels like she's runnin on all cylinders

>>38355531
Nigga "unnatural voice" is the name of the game in hololive. That's why kiara really sticks like a sore thumb, because her unnatural voice is just fucking screechy and annoying as fuck compared to her colleagues.

>>38355592
It's not that I don't understand. I was an American living in JP for years and it took me over a year to get used to things. It was hard to understand that they had different views on what's rude than me. It's just if I'm going to watch a Vtuber to chill, I'd rather just watch someone with a viewpoint that's already similar to mine. Kind of like how I started hanging out in places where other Americans hung out in JP.

>>38355531
>I don't really get the voice thing [...] Fauna and even mumei sound way more unnatural
Anon why would you assume that the issue has anything to do with whether it sounds 'natural'? It's just plain bad to listen to.
Meanwhile Fauna has the voice of an angel and Mumei of a precious little kid; people enjoy those voices regardless of believing they're real.

Fauna doesn't want to post her schedule becasue something might happen this week.

Any news on Vesper yet?

>>38353527
i'm pretty much just in it for the streams with a side of idol. If they ever stopped their streams and went full idol I'd likely lose interest, but I do like the idol parts in moderation. Would hate it for my oshi to go the way of Aqua who decided to just not stream even semi-regularly because she doesn't feel motivated for 1 year+. I really don't get why crew would support this behavior nonetheless.

>>38355502
Riot focus more on Valorant this days which is honestly a good move but overall even Valorant esports is reclining even with their focus on it.

>>38355672
It'd be worse in a non university environment. The average american doesn't understand european bluntness is a thing

>>38355783
Vesper graduation?

>>38355783
I wonder if its her usual collab confirmation autism or some actual event taking place?

>>38355783
Kys

>>38355833
She would've mentioned if it was going to be a collab, so I think it's an event. She said it may get delayed to January too.

>>38355815
huh. good to know.

>>38355783
>En3
En3

>>38354623
As expected from Western women really, all things considered holo EN still ended up closer to holo JP than niji EN to niji JP and at least some of them actually want to appeal to us stinky nerds.

>>38355592
Really depends on who you interact with, I grew up in Appalachia and most people are blunt as hell. Universities nowadays are also some of the worst places in the country currently if you want to speak honestly due to them being full of the sort of people who like to police speech. It's also kind of a class thing here, working class tends to be way more blunt than the upper/some of the middle classes.

>>38355833
She just said "because...things" and she waits until January where things are "stabilized".
EN3 BROS?!

>>38355895
Impossible, anon. Cover wouldn't choose now of all tim-
>Amelia's on break
Oh fuck

>>38355783
>homo graduation is happening
based based

>>38355672
What >>38355815 said. At school people are open enough to at least try to understand me, same as I do towards them. At work this shit sucks though, especially when I'm having to explain something to a superior so they don't waste time and resources.

>>38355988
imagine not being able to say to my superior that hes fucking retarded to even entertain a certain idea, i would go nuts
t. Italian

>>38355409
no doubt, but will that get new people interested? Perhaps he can post ads for it all over Youtube and crunchyroll

My beloved wife did good.

>>38356060
please not cruncyroll, thos tranies needs to go out of biz

>>38356073
Cute wife you got there anon!

>>38356060
>crunchyroll
the vod still striked btw

>>38355856
Nijiseethe

>>38355954
EN3 this weekend and the reason why fauna specifically mentioned January because there's when the collab ban is lifted. She want the EN3 to get maximum spotlight before that.

TRUST THE PLAN

>>38356073
Fauna has so many options for her costume...

Fauna has been pregnant for months, she is going to have labor soon. Things will return to normal once January come.
Stop coming up with far fetching Rrat like EN3

>>38356153
Is crunchyroll actually responsible for that? Isn't it Kadokawa being retarded?

>>38356153
Kadokawa you retard...

>>38356213
t. childlesschama

>>38355787
He's on Christmas Break

>>38356213
That was a good one, anon. I'm afraid it'll fly above many anons' heads.

>>38356239
yeah ofc it's kadokawa just "forgetting" to whitelist fauna, but was a good occasion to remind everyone of their faggotry

>>38356295
I'm surprised no one in Fauna's chat mentioned about it to her

gura thumbnail is ALL UOH WAR tonight

>>38356360
She's not dumb, she clearly knows, there's no reason to pester her about it.

t. Sapling

>en3 cope posters are still a thing
i thought you all ran off when holoX anniversary rolled out

>>38355777
Kiara voice is hot as hell not sure why people say her voice is debuff. That slight esl accent with her bluntness attitude is segs.

Almost 5k waiting for Gura. Predictions? Call now

>>38356037
The degree I'm getting is in marine engineering, so I travel to docks where the managers I meet are much more agreeable. The office is where I annoy them but I'm almost never there

>>38356360
sisters praise the blue faggot for his chat forceful whipping but he don't hold a candle against the manipolator chumbud prime ceres fauna.

Wasn't Vesper supposed to be back by now?

>>38356440
13k

>>38356440
14k

>>38355968
she was on break at the best time in November and nothing came of it

>>38356454
They've back-roomed him since they can't fire him.

>>38356454
A-Anon, you might want to sitdown for this...

>>38356440
Its probably gonna creep upto 16-17k

>>38356454
Literally who

>>38356440
JP is lucky cause EN is culled hard right now.

Mumei really likes this busty brunette

>>38356479
Doesn't disprove anything.

>>38356446
people on the ground push the shit around while the ivory towers are fucking clueless, a tale as old as time.

Suisei's nendoroid ranked 3rd on AmiAmi 2022 Pre-order ranking
https://twitter.com/AmiAmi_English/status/1599569250938949632

>>38356434
Surely you're no stranger to the idea that not everybody shares your taste.

>>38356454
ban expired technically 3 days ago JST time

>Fauna
>Mumei
>Gura
>IRyS
All are streaming in some capacity today. Is EN gonna make it bros?

>>38356562
thotago and whorekao my beloved

>>38356536
EN3 isn't happen for the next 2 months at minimum. I'm more inclined to believe that we'll get JP7 before holofes instead of EN3.

>>38356562
Kek of course the atago-takao race queens are on the top 3

>>38355592
Reminds me of this.