/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>LB7 soon
>It will take years for Pekora to reach LB arc let alone experiencing all of it
>Depressed.png.jpeg.webp

>QRD
>JWU
>Can anyone fill me in
>X was a mistake
>Grim
>Kek
>Now that the dust has settled
>Why did it flop
>How can we save X
>What did she mean by this?
>What went wrong?
>How will they ever recover?
>OH NO NO NO
>The absolute state of (x)
>(x)bros... we got too cocky
>Based

Okay. When did Polka join the first army?

>>38336087
Retard

Vox akuma of nijisanji EN is having a meltdown because some people dislike his content
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1599408550459031552

>I think for me I'm really like sensitive to the idea that some people don't like my kind of content and some do and that really gets under my skin.
>and in an ideal world I would be palatable to all people
>how I became a fanservice vtuber is because I liked the approval in chat to do something and hearing a thank you or tskr
>I really struggle to say no to anybody and if someone asks me to do something even if it makes me uncomfortable I'll do it
>I have an inability to say no to people, they they're giving me their own hard earned money how can I say no to them?
>I'm very sensitive to that kind of thing
>I want that more people would be able to watch me but I can't let those(superchatters, fanservice) viewers down
>chat emote spam fills me with dopamine
>I really struggle to say no to anybody and if a person gives me a supa even if it makes me uncomfortable I'll do it

>>38336087
Have you tried opening the stream for one second?

tempiss

>>38336087
There is literally 2 First army on her stream RIGHT now

my unwell wife...

>>38336087
>there are /#/ posters who still don't know that 凸 is the magic number rune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or2EKCRgn20

Nijiniggers

>>38336139
koyori doesn't belong in the first army, schizo

>>38336157
IMAGINE

>>38336154
It even looks like a tetris piece so you can remember easily. Baffling

>>38336189
That's why that anon said two.

>>38336157
That hair physic is triggering my autism

/#/: can't be bothered to open streams to find out the source of the numbers

>>38336189
suisei and miko are on the stream why the fuck did you immediately think koyori

Have you picked your WC chuuba for the final phase ?
Here's mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p75Xem6cwHg

>>38336157
giantess is the worst fetish

>>38336241(me)
Oh wait i just watch the animation, it's just the screenshot

>>38336241
she's in the middle of falling down backwards.

>Real
Ghosts
Hypnosis
Tarot-reading

>Fake
Vaccines
Animal rights
EN cull

>>38336220
>not barefoot
What a waste

>>38336118
So Vox got groomed by the chinese girls?

>>38336351
Sounds about right.

>>38336351
You forgot flat earth

>>38336290
Wake me up when Japan is playing

Hottest girl on the block

>shills her shit in someone else's successful stream
>multiple times
How is she so shameless? Why aren't people attacking her for this?

>>38336118
He's so cute in streams, I wish he wasn't a retard.

>>38336444
they're doing a round of general shilling anon

>>38336444
because she's cute and her shit is good

>>38336444
>as long as it works
Koyori also """"NETWORKS"""" like crazy anon
Being shameless isn't a problem, being an hypocrite is

>>38336470
Femanon...

>>38336157
T-that’s hot...

>>38336470
Tits or gtfo

>>38336351
Based /x/chad

>>38336118
So, he is basically a masculine prostitute/jav actresses/onlyfans girl trying to lead a normal life AND taking all the money doing all kinds of degenerate stuff?

That never work little manwhore, a really sad existence

Nene joined

What's this about Toya final MK8 tournament btw?

>>38336444
She's extremely smart. She made shilling a part of her brand and one of her memes so when she does it, it becomes a cute suisei-ism instead of shameless.
Other chuubas need to learn this power of memery.

>>38336579
Graduation most likely Anycolor is taking over.

>>38336637
Lol of course
Well this mean less work for Toya anyway and it won't magically gain more numbers because manager help him host it

>>38336589
I wish Sora had a bit of that when it comes to shill her own merch or events.
She's so lowkey on that that it's painful.

>>38336711
she's mentioned that some of the other girls have told her she needs to get better at shilling

>>38336867
>she's so bad at it even the other holos protest
Lol.

>gets called the Gura killer
>Gets killed by Gura
The cycle of life

>>38336444
It's allowed and free to do it in Hololive unlike in Nijisanji where people have to fork some fee to shill stuff.

>>38336118
Well, since catbox is shitting itself now.
https://archive.is/EG8Gh
https://qu.ax/qlWd.mp4
https://qu.ax/AAEo.mp4
https://qu.ax/Qyoh.mp4
https://qu.ax/wSPg.mp4

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>108,918: Toya (Nijisanji)
>81,211: Hololive (Hololive)
>48,421: Miko (Hololive)
>38,880: Polka (Hololive)
>36,410: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,961: Marine (Hololive)
>30,006: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,189: Fubuki (Hololive)
>23,836: Lize (Nijisanji)
>22,147: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,720: Mito (Nijisanji)
>19,045: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,370: NeruMero (Indie)
>17,536: Gura (Hololive)
>16,504: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,699: Salome (Nijisanji)
>14,046: Met (774 inc)
>13,562: Ars (Nijisanji)
>13,089: Mio (Hololive)
>12,926: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,176: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,093: Hibari (Nijisanji)
>12,047: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,714: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,595: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,009: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>10,679: Towa (Hololive)
>10,500: Botan (Hololive)
>10,451: Watame (Hololive)
>10,147: Calli (Hololive)

An expected gold for Toya with a 100k+ Mario Kart tournament lottery and a STACKED day with pretty much every big hitter from the JP branches of both major companies being at the tally in a day 20k wouldn't put a stream in the top 10

>>38336898
even nips weren't immune with salome cuckoldry and her i thought ntr is popular over there

>>38336991
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Miko, Pekora, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
223x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
22x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38336589
I think it was a fluke. Suisei just ended up being so funny when shilling her first album that people clipped it and thus it became a meme.

>>38336898
congratulations on 14th place
enniggers must be proud

>>38336991
Just a reminder that Toya can be honored with posts other than his own image too!
>pic related
UOH?

>>38336991
god finally

>>38337061
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
219x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
51x: Pekora
32x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
14x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
218x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
38x: Miko
33x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>38336444
It’s not about being shameless, it’s about you being your strongest advocate. If you don’t care about your own product, you can’t expect anyone else to care either. It’s the mark of someone who’s been through a hunderd interviews.

>>38337069
If you're a success then advertising yourself can be seen as charming, not so much if you aren't.

>>38337123
>It’s not about being shameless, it’s about you being your strongest advocate.
People are retarded for thinking otherwise. Wanna know the difference between that very talented lad struggling with his career progression and that other equally talented lad that just made VP?
>CONSTRUCTIVE SELF PROMOTION

>>38337061

>>38337123
Irys...

>>38337094
Ooh I'm sorry your gura killer went from 100k to 10k in less than five months, would you like to seethe about it?

>be anon
>posts /b/omu in the catalog
>others respond
>everybody gets get
>thread gets slow and shitposter free
Your sacrifice will be remembered, proud warrior!

>>38337280
Anon the thread is slow because world Cup is happening, and you say that like bans actually do anything around these parts

>>38336991

>>38336444
People want to be shilled at by Suisei.

>>38337329
They do to a handful of shitposters that can't make themselves back.
WC game was France vs. Poland, nobody that frequents this board was watching that

>>38337233
She need to learn to shill like reine.

>>38337329
i mean they do, ofc those people won't stay banned, but it's like the locks thing, there's no such thing as an unpickable lock, you're just trying to be annoying enough that people would rather not take the time to evade

>>38337329
>>38337432
Shitposters followed that Noel thread

>>38336991
10-14 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>38336991
This lost is on Laplus. Fuck her.

>>38336991
finally got my touya gold, i'm satisfied rn. though it's through a tournament, but i'll take it

In another timeline, Laplus is a hardworking and charismatic superstar who streams everyday, and we would have holox gold today.

>>38336991
>HoloJP: Miko, Pekora, Marine, Subaru, Fubuki, Polka, Kanata, Mio, Okayu, Towa, Botan, Watame
>HoloEN: Calli, Gura
>NijiJP: Toya, Kuzuha, Mito, Salome, Lize, Sasaki, Ange, Lauren, Ibrahim, Ars, Hibari, Ririmu
HOLY SHIT! Pretty much EVERYONE from the top of both companies got in the tally today.

What happened?

>>38337069
Nah, she was known for shilling before her first album too. The memery came from her shilling in such random and sometimes inappropriate places that it becomes funny and clippable.

>>38336991

>>38337708
Festive month
Everyone better get off their ass

I want to make some wings in an air fryer and feed them to haachama...

>>38337650
Don't obsess over the "could have been"s, anon. That's how you end up in the timeline where Kson buys Hololive.

>>38337432
>nobody that frequents this board was watching that
Given how dead the board is right now and how many shitposters are euros I can say that's evidently not the case

>>38337459
Reine needs to learn how to shill like Reine. Imagine flopping with both Gura and Marine on your track.

>>38336290
Wtf, is that Zeta's sister?

>>38336118
>Begging for sympathy SC
Am I too jaded? Should I believe in, and feel bad for him?

>>38337708
>towa watame
>top

So the half finals for thr wc are going to be Brazil vs Argentina and France vs Spain huh?

>>38337818
>Reine needs to learn how to shill like Reine

>>38337818
She messed up her room and need fixing, she acknowledged it, the tweet from her and other all become irrelevent when she change to new room.

>>38337914
>half finals
Semi finals?

>>38337914
Anyone is fine as long as England doesn't win

>>38337708
>calli
>top
what?

>>38325241
>>38327016
because she lives in Japan, retards
so thats the time she can stream and that was still her birthday as it was 04/12

>>38336991
>23,836: Lize (Nijisanji)
>19,720: Mito (Nijisanji)
>16,504: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>14,699: Salome (Nijisanji)
All Pokemon streams. What happened to Salami?

any new rrats?

>>38338018
Shut up petra go back to losing on your birthday to a homo in the same collab as you then losing their raid entirely right after

https://twitter.com/anyamelfissa/status/1599384360305971201
Anya announcement

>>38336991

>>38337708
Mori was a Z

Speaking of Mario Kart tournaments when is the Holo tournament being announced? It's almost that time of the year again.

Gura approves of the giantess animation.

>>38338018
>she lives in Japan
>so thats the time she can stream
The second sentence might be true, it is possible that that is the only time she can stream from a variety of reasons but living in Japan is *not* one of them.

There are NijiJP streams across the day covering every hour on the clock, and they live in the very same Japan

>>38338123
>your *image*board reps....
Anyway, I would ask people if this will beat Ollie anniversary but, yeah....

>>38338049
Got killed by Gura

>>38338236
will she do a lot of stuffs?

>>38338123
Transfer papers to HoloJP finalized, there's gonna be a new weakest member of Gen 0

>>38336442
>sub 10k already

>>38336991

>>38338140
Towa haven’t said anything

>>38338294
I hope so, it would be awkward if she spent 12 hours doing nothing

>>38336157
>gura retweeted this

>>38336157
>>38338348
>I retweeted gura retweeting this
WE ARE

>>38338123
3D debut, I call it

>>38338433
they'll probably announce that during the group collab on wednesday

>>38338474
>>38338433
Will ID2 3D debut get gold?
>can they beat 100k?
Will Council be next for a 3D debut or IRyS will get it first?

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1599456256170684422?s=46&t=Bf7i1imhs291cvdAFviRvw

Cuteeeeeee

>>38336991

>>38338567
Manager tweet

>>38338567
AI chatbot tweet

>>38337123
This thread gets extremely pissed off when Mori does this shit, like during that Halloween collab when she kept a POV up to shill her MV. Why is it always OK when Suisei does it?

>>38338567
My tweet.

>>38338567
>Tweet at the same time
rrats?

>>38338643
>Mori is an hypocrite
>Suisei isn't
It's not that hard

>>38338665
She's happy to btfo irys again

so en3 tomorrow right

>>38338678
Elaborate.

>>38336991

>>38338643
Mori is not charismatic. She kinda was at the beginning, but not after she started burning bridges.
And especially now that she's reclining, it comes off as desperate.

>>38338665
They fucked

>Gura cute
>IRyS sexy
>Fauna mommy
>Mumei broken mess
I love these girls

>>38338708
no. announcement on the 13th JST. debut on the weekend of 17 and 18. Collab ban will start on jan 2nd so they can be part of christmas festivities.

>>38338811

>>38337117
>2022 BRONZES
>38x: Miko
>33x: Subaru
>32x: Pekora

it's fucking over

>>38338811
>debuting over luxiems anniversary

>>38338665
She's happy that IRyS is streaming so she won't have to stream to fill the empty slo- wait, IRyS escaped back to her old timeslot.

>>38338140
I don't see Towa giving enough of a shit to host it this year. Probably won't happen.

>>38338678
This place has a hate boner for en members that are kind to tempus. Notice how this thread is the only place that wants vesper to be gone and everywhere else is wishing him a safe return. It makes them seethe the fact tempus are doing well so well in fact axel had dinner with yagoo and staff.

>>38338873
Luxiem anniversary would be china primetime, no overlap.

>>38338809
>>Fauna mommy

>>38338874
That was always on her schedule, which came out before Gura announced she would stream this weekend.

>>38338873
All out war

>>38338968
I mostly just want Vesper to not kill himself over ruining his big break and escape from poverty because as a cringe sperg I feel sympathy towards my kind.

>>38338972
It would still be a numberflex within the same day.

>>38338811
Delusional take.
EN3 won't be until next year.

>>38338968
Mori was disliked long before Tempus was even a drug fueled thought

>>38338974
Her grandma could always need help with errands in the afternoon if Gura isn't streaming though

>>38336991

>>38338968
Because this is the only place that talks about Vesper aside from your containment thread. Ask other threads what they think of him

>>38336189
Meds.

>>38338968
>tempus are doing well
lmao
I hope the retard got the fuck Nodoka at least

Irys 7k
Gura 19k
Everyone else 5k and below

>>38339215
sounds healthy

>>38339049
At this point en3 or jp7 are pretty much confirm. Hololive for the past three years had always had a generation do a watchlong for holofes. It's way to soon for jp7 so it's has to be en3.

What's on your mind that you haven't had a chance to say yet, /#/?

>>38338809
Aren't you forgetting someone?

>>38339248
They aren't debuting EN3 until February at the earliest, hell i wouldn't be surprised if JP7 takes the slot over EN3 and we dont get en3 until June since technically EN already got their new gen in the eyes of management.

>>38339284
Kronii cool

>>38339284
Nta but nope.

>>38339215
>IRyS 7k
Highly likely, maybe 8k
>Gura 19k
lol

>>38338968
>tempus are doing well
anon you know this is the numbers thread, is this the sister blood in your veins that compel you to lie so shamelessly?

Hey numberbros, do any of you know where /hag/ went? I'm in the mood to discuss hags

>>38338678
>>38338749
All I'm seeing from these responses is that some posters here apply different standards to someone from JP first army compared to everyone else. Either shilling your songs in another person's stream is acceptable or not, it shouldn't matter whether Suisei, Mori, or whoever is doing it, with the only point of contention maybe being how the shilling is executed.

>>38339215
bioshock finale sub 5k?

>>38339215
You're forgetting about Fauna. She'll probably get similar numbers to Irys.

>>38339282
Lazulight 3D won't get 100k.

>>38339403
No you stupid nigger
Shilling isn't a boogeyman that makes a chuuba hated just because. It depends on who does it and in what way.

>>38339478
Didn't know she was streaming but i'll just say 9k if she's streaming at her usual slot.

>>38339403
All I'm seeing from this response is that you're really butthurt about people not liking Mori.

>>38339403
you can't fucking bitch about hololive culture 24/7 on your RM then 180° and fucking pause a party branch stream to try to funnel your shit.

>>38339365
Their the most successful male generation of holo pro. Plus they broke down the male female collab barrier and apparently management is really proud of them to the point that they invited axel with dinner with the ceo. Which is something no hololive en girl have achieve despite having multiple members live in japan. Yet because vesper made a dumb mistake and got into trouble people have been slandering their names and seething due to their success.

>>38339215
Gura is going to be another 15k, she's playing some rhythm kusoge

>38339629
Trying too hard 2/10

>38339629
you don't even deserve a you faggot/sister, the girl will never offline with yagoo and staff for more important matter than what you think. seethe and cope, gura duolinguo stream alone is worth more than tempus as whole.

I wanna see council numbers without korean.

What will the excuse in /#/ be when Gura's average finally falls into the 10k to 12k range?

>>38338513
ID2 is like the weakest gen in Hololive, they're bunch of 3view shitters

>>38338182
Shes busy most of the day in school so she can only stream at night. the only days she can stream early is on weekends, thats why she was able to do 3 streams for her birthday yesterday
>>38338118
the fact that you even make this joke about petra shows you know nothing about her kek she coulndt be more ignorant on western shit

>>38339845
>she coulndt be more ignorant on western shit
so she's too japanese for the NijiEN audience?

>>38339629
>Plus they broke down the male female collab barrier
The barrier was lifted back in 2020 newfagchama

Does Toyas Uoh threads still get insta deleted?

>>38338643
Read the room
Although a lot of people won't go as far as her antis, the dislike for Mori has always been there even before Tempus happened
Before she reclines, she can at least bring numbers to the table with her music numbers
But now she barely bring numbers

>>38339783
Fauna would be #1 at everything without koreanfags (or asianfags).

>>38337902
>Watame
yes

>>38340088
Yeah, but not for subs and clips because she is immune to tourists.

>fauna camps the same slot consistently that nobody else consistently does
>builds up a base
I think twitch streamers were onto something

seems like a bunch of JP chuubas won't be streaming later starting at 10pm JST for that dumb Japan vs Croatia football game

>>38340243
They are right about some things but in general they utterly missed the part where they are actually appealing to people that aren't bottom feeders

>>38339403
Suisei shills and then gets good numbers which makes it ok. Mori shills and then the songs flop which makes it cringe
simple as

>>38339629
>Plus they broke down the male female collab barrier and apparently management is really proud of them to the point that they invited axel with dinner with the ceo. Which is something no hololive en girl have achieve despite having multiple members live in japan
This has to be bait.

>Cunnyman won
>thread is fucking dead
wtf, I thought you guys liked cunny

Is there any female streamer doing better than enna?

>>38340666
Nope.

>>38340644
False. We adore hags and middle aged women

>>38340666
Not irys

>>38339809
Gura's floor has literally risen from 10-12k to 14k so try different bait, like how she can't get 20k any more.

>>38338643
>>38338718
Suisei shilled when Polka asked everyone if they had announcements. They usually do that in collabs.
On the other hand, Mori shoehorned herself into the HoloEN halloween Escape room VR stream and made them fuck around for 1 hour to wait for her song premiere. See the difference.
Also, suisei shills in an ironic(but serious), funny, and charismatic way.

>>38340740
It also helps that the rest of JP are able to release albums and EPs if they want too. Mori has all the other ENs beat 10 to 1 when it comes to song releases.

>>38340666
Better at what?

>>38340875
Better at being a whore kek

>>38340256
>Dumb
I hope Pekora will be narrating it too this time

>>38340869
>It also helps that the rest of JP are able to release albums and EPs if they want too
Do they? I think most of them, even the veterans, don't have enough originals to release an EP

>>38340740
Also of note, it's specifically Polka. The girl who used her own birthday live to shill her friends for them, and who shows up on random indie/small corpo streams just to help promote them. If anything, she'd be more offended someone didn't take the opportunity to promote their own stuff, as evidenced by her pushing Koyo to do it that stream as well.

>>38340666
A lot

>>38341145
oment Moflife my

>>38340666
Everyone in Hololive.

>>38341145
these songs arent new i already had my fill of them by the time the MV comes out.

Important
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHs21UqytwU

I think that a lot of the people who hadn't yet lost interest on Mori, did lose their interest when her first EP under UMG came out and the only song that they liked was Mera Mera.

>>38341547
The latest one must suck then because it just came out a couple weeks ago

where is vesper...

>>38337708
>Calli
>Top
Ogey cuckbeat...

>>38342005
where he belongs

>>38342005
Where is /#/ its fucking dead in here

>>38340243
let's say that imaqtpie knew this since 2015, go watch his streams from that age, peak in EU primetime like clockwork, no one charismatic in those hourse back then, he was alone in there.

>>38341787
Was a banger desu

>>38342032
literally nothing happening anywhere right now

>>38342032
I'm watching football

>>38341796
I think it's the worst one since Akatsuki to Hana

>>38342005
His manager doesn't work on weekends so he can't unlock his account, please understand

>>38342049
netted 20k-30k viewers peak daily and a stream of the year award, with 2M from streaming yearly when twitch prime welfare still didn't exists.

>only 1 +1k
susan?

>>38342114
kpop fags cryed, susan came down slashing like always

>>38342114
Lui is powerful

>>38342005
>hanging from the ceiling
amelia "tummy hort" watson organized a welcome back collab stream tomorrow and it'd all be swept under the rug

>>38342208
If she organized a collab anytime soon id be surprised after her comments right before her break.

>>38342005
In jail for sexual harassment.

>>38342504
I'm sure she could make an exception for Tempus

>>38342208
Sounds like Ame got the homo itch out of her system for a while after the tournament and astroneer collabs

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*


Here it goes


>12/4 Daily Tally
17,498: Gura (Hololive)
10,147: Mori (Hololive)
7,784: Petra (Nijisanji)
7,475: IRyS (Hololive)
6,165: Shu (Nijisanji)
5,605: Mumei (Hololive)
5,581: Petra (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 3
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Gura
1x: Selen, IRyS

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
10p: Gura
5p: Selen, IRyS, Fauna
4p: Mori
3p: Mumei, Ike
1p: Petra

>>38342557
That astroneer collab was comfy and those bitches never played it again

>>38342679
Everyone but Ame found it boring didn’t they

>>38342114
Wanna see something amusing as fuck?
>GWELU TICKED FUCKING DOWN IN DECEMBER SO FAR
He's MINUS ONE K
>pic related

I have a theory: Youtube is much more aggressive with purging old subs that won't interact with youtube anymore.
It was more or less one year ago that Gwelu did that "Gwelu line" stunt of putting a stream up that would last until 1M subs or until his PC died
>which it did
and he got lots of subs back then.

I say this is Youtube clawing back those subs

>>38342679
IDs actually did.

>>38342712
Opposite
They all loved it except Ame and a few IDs played it again after that collab

>>38342679
Comfy games are a bad use of mixed gender collabs

>>38342679
Since the existence of the ID/EN girls only server was announced I think there’s gonna be even less group collabs that involve tempus unless it’s organized by Mori or Ollie/Kobo

>>38342756
Ame definitely wouldn't refuse an invitation if it was at somewhat decent hours for her.

>>38342679
I just remember that collab lacked a strong driving catalyst member so i tuned out and actually forgot it existed

>>38342638
>lost to petra
Why is this whore so useless

>>38342638
Mythchads ww@

>>38342638
Mumei...

>>38342638
Mori's 10k was a Z, for the record

>>38342114
>>38342743
And here is the list of all vtubers that didn't tick up EVEN ONCE in December so far
>pic related

Again, youtube is much more aggressive with clawing back inactive subs.

>>38342886
Don't worry, she'll get kicked out of cripple bronze tonight too

it's over

>>38342114
>>38342743
>>38343013
Last, here is the list of every vtuber tracked by vrabi that ticked up 2k or more in December
>there are only 39 of them

>>38342638
>>38342982
Pretty sure EN tally anon filtered Z before, why the change ?

>>38343073
I don't know exactly what you are trying to say but it truly looks even steven with the same period in 2021, which was one of the hottest periods for Hololive with HoloX debut and one of the few times they beat Nijisanji in this silly "Trends" metric

>>38343145
It doesn't affect the ranking

Altare confirm vesper is coming back this week
get hype.

>>38343161
it's worse if you use hololive only. it shows exactly what's happening: holoEN reclining hard but holoJP staying somewhat stable.

>>38343286
Timestamp or GTFO

>>38343397
You usually would start with "Hololive (search term)" vs "Nijisanji (topic)".
Saving for last?

>>38343286
Vesper already posted a schedule for the week yesterday

>>38343468
>he fell for the old schedule
HAHAHAHA

>>38342679
The game is tainted by the stars. I don't think Fauna, IRyS or Gura will ever touch it.

Huh, that green deer got into vshoujo

>>38342935
was doing a chatting stream which did better than a lot of her recent gaming streams, even under gura overlap
yeah i dont get it either. i have a theory that there are some gura watchers who completely fucked off from vtubers when she was gone and are back in the box with her return

>>38343398
Check Mans Altare spoke to vesper and said he be back midweek.

>>38343582
Yeah and I enjoyed the meltdown

>>38343527
Oh, (You)'re right, LOL *finger guns*

>>38343582
Feels like nothing’s changed.

>>38343611
link it fag

>>38343611
don't lie. I watched it. He said he might be back after Christmas

>>38343582
Yeah, and no one really cared except the indies who spent time doing the scam vshojo audition.

Watame just confirmed Coco is coming back next week.

>>38343885
Isn't that the worst case scenario for VS? Being friendly with Indies is the only advantage they have over Hololive

Luna just confirmed Nijisanji use bots

Miko just confirmed that she raped Pekora

Fauna just confirmed Ina is dead...

>>38343611
>the general that post random shit 24/7 to feel a crumb of relevancy like during debut
ngmi

Luna confirmed she is pegging oga

Kobo just confirmed ID will disband next year

Gura just confirmed that she has the leaked world cup script and England will take it home

holy grim

https://youtu.be/omtWlnL0fh4
EN gold

>>38344127
Anon, Gura is streaming.

>>38344088
And people called me a schizo when I said that leaving China was a mistake. Fuck Coco and fuck Fubuki.

>>38344141
Really? Post frame

Thread is crawling to a halt, here is something to get the conversation going
> 60 DAYS MEDIAN OF PEAKS; EN BRANCHES, PER GEN/WAVE

Here are some comments

>1) Myth
Myth was quite stable for the whole post 2020 algo change period
Their numbers would bounce between 8k and 9k for the whole period between May 2021 and August 2022, with some eventful periods inclining them to 10k.
It all changed mid august with a TOTAL COLLAPSE of their floor.
>2) Council
Council had a deep recline period that lasted even further than the CCVID period, up until the final weeks of February.
From that point on they entered a HUGE incline arc which went up until early September, after which they entered a huge recline slop.
Council is still the gen with the highest 60 days median with a huge advantage over the other ones
>3) Luxiem
Luxiem had a rocket like ascension up until June and they stayed stable up until Mid September, after which they had an equally steep crash and burn.
Right now they're at the same level they were in early March, and reclining
>4) Noctyx
They had a mild honeymoon period and am equally mild recline.
Nonetheless they are at a career low right now
>5) Lazulight, Obsydia, Ethyria
The OG NijiEN girl had a good incline after NijiEN onboarded the female chinese audience but that's waning now.
They're still at a good point in relation to their shaky start but it will depend on whether the boys recline will continue dragging them down
>6) iLUNA
Their rate of recline is approaching zero but they still didn't find their floor, which is getting closer and closer to three digits by the looks of it
and the punchline
>7) Tempus
Their recline is pretty much a 35 degrees downward slope with no change in rate of recline pretty much from debut.
At this rate and if nothing changes they'll be flirting with a 1.5k gen median mid January.

All in all: huge deceleration across the board and even the recent events didn't seem to break down this trend

>>38344188
She also mentioned it yesterday night.

>>38344191
July 18th, never forget

>>38344127
What the fuck is a kirin

>>38344294
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin

>>38344191
Mysta will save Luxiem
Tempus is a gigaflop

>>38344371
He can't, that's the thing.
Both the median and the true average can't be swayed by a single person pulling up his own numbers and I don't think Mysta can attract the sort of audience that will "trickle down" to the whole wave

>>38344127
Couldn't tell who this was until I clicked on it
Why does EN never put their name in the stream titles like everyone else?

>>38343161
>looks even steven
>even steven
Nani the who?

>>38344127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov_oeUWOAqA
actual en gold which should beat gura

>>38344294
>>38344326
She is the dragon in the holo zodiac

>>38343145
Mori would have been Silver regardless

>>38344191
It seems like Myth had two drops. One in August, and another recently around Nov 20.

>>38344642
Isn't that when Gura went MIA ?

>>38343951
Nah, which 1view would go against vshojo? Mouse already told them to fuck off and not get uppity

>>38344127
>>38344141
Pretty sure neither are winning today anyways. Mysta's return stream is today iirc and Gura's going to play a debuff game in the middle of double/triple overlap within an hour. No, really, this is highly likely stream game she will play today;
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1424330/Wobbledogs/

>>38344687
Yeah, Kiara was never good and Ame/Mori collapsed over time. Gura/Ina being absent is a huge reason for the problem. Even when Gura's around the other 3 shitters drag her down. People doomposting Myth ignore that Ina was EN's nr 2 and now she's gone.

>>38342114
2

>>38344191
I'm still convinced Susan pulled yet another funny. I don't know how else you'd explain the top end of both corpos sharply reclining at roughly the same rate, originating at roughly the same time. It's like they all got cut off from the rest of the algo (and associated tourists) and the only people seemingly unaffected are the ones who had little tourist presence in the first place.

>>38344810
I miss my priestess...

>>38344755
Mysta is definitely a competitor, but I don't think he is a shoo-in: This was his last return stream back in July before Luxiem started their recline.
He has been gone for twice the amount of time this time around though, so that might make up for it.

numbers?

>>38344534
It's funny how specific he is in the title. Trying to remind the tourists exactly how long he's been gone I guess.

https://youtu.be/LXRSp8QbOeg
Moona 500k

>>38344642
>around Nov 20.
Nov 8th. It must be related to Gura extended absence

>Laplus anti sisters are still seething they got BTFO
Hating Laplus won't make Nijis numbers any better you know

>>38344843
>I'm still convinced Susan pulled yet another funny.
Anons put forward a better explanation
>end of vacations period and return to school
There is, of course, the obvious explanation
>Tempus and iLUNA contributed negatively to the health of their respective branches
And the localized explanation
>Vox took a menhera break for the whole month of October, followed by Mysta taking one for the whole month of November
>Gura went AWOL and Ina is in an indefinite hiatus

That makes four out of four of the mid of the year leaders of their respective branches

>>38339593
You have an example of this “bitching about Hololive culture 24/7” of course. If she literally constantly does it it should be pretty easy for you to find some examples right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEyYtc7Bzg
Gura frame's up

>>38344810
>Kiara was never good and Ame/Mori collapsed over time
Objectively, are Kiara, Ame, and Mori at their floor, are they likely to recline individually?
I think all the tourists are gone in general.

>>38340869
Nothing is stopping the rest of EN except laziness.

>>38345132
holy ToT

>>38345133
Kiara's reached her floor long ago. I do not believe it's possible for her to recline unless she fucks off for months and people forget about her.
I think Ame's in that position too.
It's still possible for Mori to recline, but Mori has never truly had a CCV golden age because since day one her schedule was schizo "i pick a random timeslot in a 24 hour period of time where I'M FREE to stream", never accounting for any audience preferenes, never building anything. If anything Mori is the most likely to incline if she just settles the fuck down somewhere in NA and focuses on streaming, but that won't happen.

>>38345173
>Nothing is stopping the rest of EN except laziness.
That's bullshit. Kiara is currently working on an album, which is a project she started many months ago. Bureaucracy and legal guards takes time.

Isnt a debut from the "3rd biggest" vtuber company should have more hype.
Do people even care?
I saw more talking and discussions for IdolEN than Vshojo!

>>38339403
Suisei helped build Hololive from the ground up while Mori simply rode a wave and is using it as a means to an end.

For real how do we save Mumei

>>38345399
Kiara wasn't allowed (by management) to start working on her album until DO U released a couple months ago iirc

I tire of GRIMPOSTING. I'm now a optimism chad.

>Ina will return
>Councilirys 3d will revive the tourism
>EN3 will debut before/after holofes at the latest
>Tempiss already isolated and barely mentioned by HoloEn any more

The Golden Age will return.

>>38345519
Less meds
More Faumei collab
More Gura collab
Quit school

shouldn't Vesper have returned by now?

>>38345448
Vshojo is 4th place at best

>>38345654
He is on vacation until Christmas is done

>>38345519
Literally just do more collabs with Gura. Their room review collab was overwhelmingly well recieved, and then they did nothing together after it.

Now, here is for the converse side of the GRIM zone
> 60 days true average and median of peaks, HoloJP

HoloJP got off the ground **AS A BRANCH** (as opposed to having strong talents in a weak roster) more or less in July to September 2020 when a series of news (some good, some awful) got them IMMENSE exposure
>Gen4 3D debut, with a couple of 100k+ streams
>Mio being copy striked by Capcom and Nintendo threatening a lawsuit, leading to the "holocaust"
>Coco becoming the #1 total most superchat on Youtube bar none
>Gen 5 debut and Aloe graduation
>the "chinkout"

As the chart shows, from that point on, there was no place to go by up, up until the 2020 algo change and a normal deceleration due to most of the girls doing idol reps for Holofes and Bloom
Then mid 2021 another spike, again due to unfavorable circumstances (Coco graduation), and a second spike in the end of 2021 with a series of fortunate events
>Pekora at impossible heights
>Fubuki's Akai Naa
>the Pokemon craze
culminating with JP striking the iron while it was hot by debuting HoloX right at the peak of interest.
>note: I can only imagine how EN could have gone differently if management had done likewise and announced EN3 at that anime convention Yagoo traveled to, and debuted them in July

Then came CCVID, another idol reps deceleration in preparation for HoloFes and them they hit the greatest stride in their history: a full blow seven continuous months of nothing but buff content:
>Vampire Survivors
>HoloFes
>Holocure
>MonHun
culminating with those MAGNIFICENT RUST seasons one and two, all of which not only buffed the top of the branch to impossible heights but raised even mid and lower ranked ones to their career bests.

Right now a series of 3D events reversed what could be a natural recline (likely with idol reps in preparation for Holofes 4) but it's expected that they might return to their 9k average very soon.

That's it for a "short" summary of JP trajectory so far since data started being collected

>>38345448
>Isnt a debut from the "3rd biggest" vtuber company should have more hype.
Brave Group is the third largest vtuber company and had they not bought VSPO, VSPO would be it.

>>38345571
Ina is fucking dead anon, you have to let her go

>>38345448
there's no hype if everyone already knows who the person is or how they act this is something vshojo doesn't understand, joining vshojo is more beneficial for the talent than the viewers that are looking for something new to watch

>>38345733
Gura prefers Fauna and Kronii over Mumei these days. I also imagine it’s hard for even NOT to get Gura locked on a date for a collab these days as well.

>>38345749
Holy shit, this is just ridiculous

>>38345114
And I've heard and rejected most of them every time.
>end of vacations period and return to school
First, historical evidence says this source of recline really should've leveled off by October...or even just not happened at all (see Myth + NijiEN Girls). And lockdown's not an excuse - everyone and their mother was reopening in the latter half of 2021 up until Omicron in early 2022.
>Tempus and iLUNA contributed negatively to the health of their respective branches
Tempus maybe, but I'm not sure why iLUNA sucking would cause Luxiem and Noctyx to recline; it's not like they did anything to change the branch culture.
>General hiatus.
Plausible for Myth since it's the one group with sharp "plateaus" that line up with those hiatuses. Significantly less plausible for anyone else having rather cleanly-linear reclines.

The only way organic recline makes sense to me is if each individual event somehow directly affected the competing corpo...and even half of those answers are algo fuckery. Also, that still doesn't answer why the effect was so immediate, simultaneous, and constant. I'm also doing occasional incognito search tests, and at the moment you basically can't find any major corpo right now unless you search them directly (ie, directly typing "Hololive," "Nijisanji"). It's so absurd that you actually have higher odds of finding HoloJP in the process trying to search for any of the ENTubers.

>>38345654
Altare confirmed he will be back on February 14th to have a special offcollab comeback stream with Kronii

>>38345749
So the formula to success is basically:
>strong and consistent streamers
>game narrative arcs (Rust, Pokemon) boosting fans interest
>add a dash of 3D lives and idol reps

Do you guys think Mysta's return can damage Tempus, with Vesper out of the game? Homobeggers might be open for another source of entertainment.

>>38345749
Hololive is in another level

>>38345845
>but I'm not sure why iLUNA sucking would cause Luxiem and Noctyx to recline
I don't know if you were paying attention to their pre debut tweets and the ensuin discussion, mostly because of the contrast between then and the Stars behaviour.

Debuting iLUNA
>a mixed gen that mixed the worst of the Luxiem cum jokes with the worst of the LOE pee pee poo poo jokes
might have been the final nail on the coffin of the OG LOE audience
As for Luxiem, I unironically believe Vox calling Sonny's mom a courtesan, plus Mysta getting his wires crossed with the Genshin woke crowd did most of the damage to their numbers, which would also explain why Noctyx came out of it mostly unscathed

>>38345905
>narrative arcs
Yes, but something simple that can be both followed and started from scratch, enough that you get interested and want to "catch up" with the VODs.

>>38345749
God damn it feels good to be a JPchad. No wonder the Nijinogs and ENiggers are playing crabs in a bucket and trying to throw anything that sticks

I know the rrat about Gura VA getting replaced and whatnot but i unironically think that's what will happen with Ina

>>38345905
That's not a formula because people can't just repeat that, SPECIALLY the
>3D lives and idol reps
part.
HoloJP should raise their hands and count their blessings because if you rewind even as close as to August 2020 you would imagine live concerts becoming such a staple for Hololive.
You had Sora, Suisei, Aqua and AZKi doing it on the regular (or planning to), Aki with a very strong musical inclination but the rest of the girls?
It was not until Bloom that the "spark" to do amazing live concerts (paid or free, solo or group) really took in and, here is the best part, Hololive ALREADY had the means to make it possibly by having not one but TWO 3D studios and a team capable of pulling it out.

Think about it: for as much as HoloEN would like to repeat that formula, they *can't* now, it«s impossible. They have no studio.
HoloJP doesn't have a formula, they have a
>MOTHERFUCKING ANTARES SIZED LUCKY START
to not only have everything in place to succeed but also a passive skill to ward off every misfortune with just a small sacrifice in blood by Tanigo and, once in a while, the sacrifice of one of the talent to appease the luck gods

>>38346184
That's impossible. Ina claim to fame is being "Bob Ross, but cute anime girl"
Good luck trying to repeat that

>>38346184
Vesper is transitioning and will soon replace Ina

>>38346212
Thank god for Sora!

>>38346184
How would that even work for anything drawing related ? Especially since Ina's style is very recognizable

>>38346257
The problem with Ina started when she reduced the amount of art streams and only played games.
She let part of her audience drift away.

>>38345845 (me)
One more thing - HoloJP's basically hitting historic highs right now >>38345749 but if you've been paying attention to the weekly Top 50 it looks like the music numbers have fallen through the fucking floor, with the same timing and cadence as the EN reclines. Marine's goddamn hour-long Showa concert has blown past the 2m mark in less than a month, yet music numbers are down to the level they were at the start of 2021? The top end of the originals are doing ok (I'm Your Treasure Box, specifically) but past that point it's not much better.

>>38346089
Ironic that you say that with Lap pic.

>>38346489
Yeah cause he's baiting retards. And you bit

>>38346212
The idol focus almost made Okayu graduated at the start. Now he had Hello Kitty as a guest on her Sololive

>>38346428
For songs the explanation is really a recommendation algo.
People notice it too empirically, starting in the mid of the year with Youtube recommending "midgets", videos with 2 views (not 2 CCV, 2 literal views).
It seems they made some "bubble breaking" changes by deliberately avoiding to recommend more of the same content from the same rabbit hole (clearly targeting political bubbles).

>>38346642
...so you agree that it's Susan doing a funny, then? Because that's the only argument I've been making this whole time. We can debate the mechanisms till we're blue in the face, but the end result is that the corpo main channels are getting recommended less because of an algo change.

Hey /#/. Just found a way to make use of google trends in a non meme way. You gotta get the Google Trends Supercharged extension and it adds via Google ads actual search numbers to the graph. Like this.

>>38346642
>starting in the mid of the year with Youtube recommending "midgets", videos with 2 views (not 2 CCV, 2 literal views)

Same here. I kept getting recommended video with game playthrough (mostly Megaman and Fire Emblem) and indie Vtubers with literal 10 views constantly on my account. Telling Youtube's algo I'm not interested doesn't do anything either. I think Youtube is trying copy TikTok's discovery algo and pushing users toward lesser known content creators.

>>38345749
Here is one addition to this chart
>adding Niji JP to the same chart

It was done not to compare Holos and Nijis (because that's not possible due to the massive number of low ranked talent pulling their average down) but to show HOW MASSIVE was the impact of their summer, starting with Salome debut and passing through their tournament arcs, graduation arcs culminating with Koshien 2022 massive numbers.
Nijisanji average (even having 100+ talent) rose from around 3.3k right before Salome debut and peaked at 5.3k after Koshien finals and the last episode of Fuwa Ratio Taisou.
>then it went right back to where it was one year before, and three months before.

One of the most amusing things is that Holos met "force with force" by inclining at the same rate Nijis inclined in the period and, here is the funny thing
>maybe they did because Niji did

Here is some speculation based on nothing but the voices in my head and some circumstantial evidences: there is this theory that Salome ended up bringing a whole new audience to vtubers (and she did) and that they might have ended up on Hololive because of a failure in branding by Nijisanji management.

Given that that Saya from their Weather Channel, after having find out about vtubers with Salome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlaSXczTC_8
just appeared with Hololive on their Fan Club thing
https://twitter.com/sayahiyama_1027/status/1594657481489350658
it might just be what really happened: the JP vtuber sphere got wider and Hololive "sucked in" many of those new to the hobby.

>>38346909
>Susan doing a funny
With VOD VIews and subs, 100% agree. I disagree with the impact on the live audience tho, these seem to be very disconnected things, the recommendations for video content and the recommendations for live streams (which are mostly driven by subs and loyalty to content creators)

>>38346931
>extension
Is it fetching the numbers from youtube or "extrapolating" somehow?

>>38347089
>I disagree with the impact on the live audience tho
yeah if anything my youtube app on mobile notify me without skipping a beat nowadays, but cutting influx of newfags into the rabbit hole might explaing the winding down of the general audience, with the high member % in chat that were spammed yesterday.

>>38346931
>-1% last year
Wow, Hololive truly is dying.

>>38347028
>sub 4k average
>can somehow pull 100k out of their ass everytime
yeah fuck that

>>38347183
>with the high member % in chat that were spammed yesterday.
The "high member %" has a much simpler explanation: >>38325275

>>38347129
Nah it's only for google searches. Doesn't say where the traffic is going.

>>38347316
>556 mumei
>341 kronii
over the course of a month... doesn't really justify 70% of chatters

>>38347089
>I disagree with the impact on the live audience tho, these seem to be very disconnected things
I can't agree. I get livestream recommendations from people I don't sub to or even watch, all the time. That includes anything from creators I watch but don't sub to (eg: that anon bringing up Townsends a few days ago), to creators I've never seen before in my life, to the 2views we agree are at least getting VoD shilled.

It's also worth noting that I'm personally getting fuck all streams recommended to me while in the middle of EN overlap (am leaf subbed to 3 HoloENs)...but I DO get a bunch of live HoloJP. And a lot of Marine/Botan VoDs for some reason. And the only HoloJP I'm subbed to is Suisei.

>>38347452
In both those cases, based on their recent numbers, it is natural that there is a disproportionate amount of members in their audience.

Kronii, for instance: that TOEM game was her LOWEST CCV for a gaming stream, ever.

>peak :: date :: title :: video_id
>4055 :: 2022-12-04 :: 【TOEM】Professional Photographer | END :: x5XxfYoazTA
>4202 :: 2022-03-04 :: 【Hades】Where Am I Again | END :: hk2tpeRykEs
>4204 :: 2022-11-18 :: 【The Unfinished Swan】Become Uncanny :: Zg4kQ9WM724
>4535 :: 2022-04-23 :: 【Sayonara Wild Hearts】Goodbye Love Hello Rhythm :: 2BUWNbghnOU
>4716 :: 2022-01-21 :: 【Frostpunk: The Last Autumn】Winter Is Here | END :: aYCbRzMop1k
>4757 :: 2022-11-10 :: 【Kirby And The Forgotten Land】The End | END? :: wvcT76BdlWo
>4878 :: 2022-08-04 :: 【Stray】Move Meow | END :: D22BO5nPaiw
>4938 :: 2022-01-20 :: 【Inscryption】Showdown With The Mastermind | #3 :: c6xrOE7k_lI
>4955 :: 2022-11-09 :: 【TOEM】Taking Pictures | #1 :: MCncFUKbh0c
>5155 :: 2021-12-16 :: 【Diablo II: Resurrected】Kicking Demons To The Ground With @Takanashi Kiara Ch. hololive-EN | #3 :: GLYJiDDa2Bg
It beats the former #2 (which is #3 in this list because of a Z), which was in the past 15 days

Clearly it's a "recline to the absolute barebones of the audience" thing, not some sort of algo change thing

>>38347189
In a centenary years, that will be a 100% drop

>>38347129
The numbers are extracted from Search Volume Planner, a part of google ads.

>>38345399
And somehow Mori worked through that bureaucracy to have 2 EPs and an album pre UMG.

>>38347316
I wonder if the gift anon will bother to do a join member ranking during streams and waiting rooms.

>>38347129
The numbers are extracted from Google Keyword Planner, a part of google ads.

>>38347504
Check your watch history, specially if you lurk this thread and click on the links.
Sometimes even watching one second of a stream will put it on your "watch history" and the one change Youtube made recently is basically
>THE ONLY THING THAT MATTER IS THE ABSOLUTE LAST VIDEO YOU WATCHED
It seems their recommendation engine changed in a way only the last thing counts so if you watched today's HoloX live in the Holo main channel you will end up getting similar recommendations above all your years and years of watch history.

It happened with search as well (both Google and Youtube).
Here is a simple search
>Gura
in an unlogged account on a browser private window to ensure NO HISTORY.

The only result older than 24 hours is this
>DUBBED
animation for Gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0wtHDdLX70
(no, really, DUBBED! Spanish speakers are something else)

Whatever change they made values RECENCY above all, meaning the more time a content creator is absent, the more they'll get kicked out of the recommends and searches

>>38347555
Could be the algo recommending her stream to fewer tourists

so, think glorious nippon will beat Croatia today?

>>38347815
More on that: the reason those videos a recommended at all is because Gura just finished a stream and the clippers that rushed with a clip got to ride the wake of her stream in the recommends

Here is the same for a search for
>Inanis
It gives you her latest videos, clips of her latest videos (and from the same vicinity) and then IMMEDIATELY switches to
>People also watched
and videos not related directly to Ina from the past 24 hours

Youtube wants you to consume the LATEST videos, the ones posted right now likely because ads in recent videos are more valuable than in years old videos so they don't want you straying from the new videos.
They even took the "oldest" sort option from the channels, you can only sort by
>most viewed
and
>most recent
now, corroborating that the change was intentional

>>38347555
NTA but I can’t see why it can’t be both things. For instance, one of the biggest proponents for why the 2020 cull was so bad for EN was the illusion that they went from being 20-40k streams down to 8-25k in a blink of an eye, which in many aspects would turn viewers away when they see “how much they’ve fallen.” I mean seriously, there was a moment just a few months after that where Gura was getting 12k playing rdr2. Imagine being an outsider hearing about this monster that is vtubing, how they’ve taken over the streaming world, this and that, then going to check and it’s literally the size of your average twitch stream?

Likewise, if an algo change did occur that cut through someone’s viewership then that could easily give outsiders/casuals the belief that the stream is boring, hence why they wouldn’t tune in. Also, never doubt the effects that sites boards like /vt/ can have. You shitpost, troll, anti and schizopost enough about talents and that can easily have an effect on someone’s potential viewership. See: Magni who was never supposed to get the viewership he had to begin with, all because of a meme spammed here on /vt/

>>38348090
Both 2020 and 2021 occurred simultaneously and across the board for all Holo branches, to different degrees.
Up until now there was never a situation where there was a youtube change with noticeable effects only on one branch.

Sometimes the simples explanation is the most correct: NijiEN and HoloEN suffered from poor debuts and from losing their top 2 to scheduled and unscheduled month long absences.

2810 last waiting room

>>38347452
Mumei just has a lot of members. There's no retarded rrat needed to explain it