/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>38338465
But the entirety of us follow her mindset. I actually thought she was here

No, she disowned your faggot ass sending her retarded questions

>>38338465
as long as she thinks like me I don't care if she isn't actually /here/, actually is better if she isn't

>>38338465
she only disowned the people that make twitter screencap threads

>>38338465

>>38338547
>follows her mindset
>by visiting 4chan which she clearly does NOT like
anon-chama.... you are hurting your oshi what are you doing

>>38338465
There goes the Pippa collab and getting poached by Phase

>>38338465
>nyanners 2.0

>>38338679
it is. i want her to lose her mind again and free fall down that rabbit hole
it's fun to watch

It's called not breaking containment, tourist.

>>38338465
>i do not care
Read the tweet, retard.

>>38338465
anyone who even mentions what happens here outside of /vt/ is a massive faggot
pestering someone with marshmallow questions is even worse
whoever is responsible should am hero

I find people asking her 4chan questions cringe and the fact she acknowledges it also cringe. But brah why does it matter she's British

>>38338465
No one should come here for anything but to shitpost.

Containment breaking is faggot behavior.

>>38338842
They all pull a Nyanners eventually. Every single one.

all this shondocucks seethe in comments
mfw

inb4
"guys, please join my subreddit" lol

>>38338465
Who could have thought shondo fans besides being pedos being annoying.

>>38338465
Wow, who could have foreseen that the vtuber who panders to 4chan became popular in 4chan, what an unexpected development

>>38338465
PEKORA BOUGHT A WHAT??

>>38338465
Threads like this remind me that pekora bought a fucking monkey.

Based honestly. Having 4chan audience is fine, but pandering and talking about 4chan on streams is cringe.

Pekora's monkey........

>tries hard to appeal to 4chan
woops i actually dont like 4chan now xd go away weirdos
>advertises herself as an asmr chuuba
actually i dont like asmr go away losers
lol, she is what u get when you combine ironmouse's illness grifting with nyanners stupidity

>>38338761
cope nigger

>>38338465
LOL She has gotten more popular with Reddit adjacent youtubers like Nagzz and Koefficient who react to her clips now so she is trying to sanitize her image and divorce herself from 4chan.

>>38338465
Imagine naming the board outside and expecting people to acknowledge it.

remember when she made her janny ragequit cause /vt/ complained about him, now she pulling pink cat and cutting ties with here now that she's getting more mainstream, no asmr streams anymore either!

>>38339459

This is why you never mention Pippa, ever. You will never stop getting pestered. If you like chatting with Pippa keep it private in discord and ask her to not bring you up in her streams.

>>38338842
Shondo was never /here/

>>38338465
What she actually means.

>>38339567
have you not seen the clip of her and lily talking about 4chan? Shondo literally calls it her guilty pleasure

>>38338465
That's why you never pander to this shithole, same thing will happen to that retard pipa

>>38339644
4chan yes.
/vt/ no.

>>38339675
>>38339553
Why are people pretending that pippa is /here/ when she said that she never visits 4chan and only "uses" 4chan through those greentext repost twitter accounts? She is a hardcore kiwinigger and panders to them and their doxshit more than anything here

>>38338465
>Containment breakers.
Honestly at this point I don't even consider you faggots a 4chan board.

>>38338465
I mean, what do you expect when you look at the posts here?

>>38338465
>Yeah it's hilarious
It was never funny, it was the most forced discord meme pushed here and retards ate it up. You reap what you sow.

>>38338465
The only thing she's disowning are containment-breakers

>>38338465
Shondo was never a 4chan chuuba. She said she browsed /vt/ and /jp/ before she was a chuuba because she was a huge chuuba viewer but the negativity got to her and she quit coming /here/ when she started streaming herself. She has openly told containment breakers to fuck off, has said the 3 worst websites on the internet are Reddit, Twitter and 4chan in that order, and recently she had a faggot spamming her marshmallow with links to someone discussing her on /vt/ which she has always been clear she has no interest in seeing which is what prompted this.
Catalogniggers have been claiming she’s a /here/chuuba because in her FIRST WEEK of streaming in a collab she described 4chan as “fun” to a friend who said it was scary. She’s never pandered to here, never acted like this is a good place, makes fun of here just the same way she makes fun of reddit and twitter and that’s never changed. She’s not fucking Pippa.

>>38338465
>be containment breaking spammer
>be surprised that she tells you to stop being a containment breaking spammer
If you think that means "she disowns /vt/" you're very likely part of the problem.

>>38338465
Meh, it's pretty reasonable that you wouldn't want to read 4chan threads about yourself.

>>38339752
She blatantly monitors /pcg/. Also she has hated them since August after you know what.
Regardless she's going to hard disown both 4chan and the fruit plantation publicly when her roommate info from there gets talked about by someone popular, which is a ticking time bomb

>>38338465
She’s been telling containment breakers to fuck off in her streams since always. Some nigger keeps linking her to 4chan threads and she told them to cut it out because she doesn’t care and doesn’t want to see it. That said she acknowledges her 4chan fanbase and has said she doesn’t care which site you come from as long as you don’t shove it in her face and as long as it isn’t reddit. /lig/ made her a birthday card in July and apparently it touched her so much she’s brought it up multiple times in the last few months completely unprompted and has said she thinks about it every day and it completely changed her mindset, and maybe not everyone from here is all bad, and she never expected kindness towards her from a place like this.
She’s never pandered to here. She’s fine with 4chan viewers but tells containment breakers to fuck off. That’s literally it.

>>38338465
I mean, a lot of her "fans" from here are genuine schizos pretending like they are in control of Shondo and know best with who she's friend, what she likes and shit like this. It's not surprising that she's annoyed or disgusted by certain anons spinning rrats and dramas about people she talks with, her preferences in art etc.
No Vtuber would want to associate with people like this.

>>38339918
It's better this way honestly. No one sane would want to have a connection to this place or the fruit one.

>>38339604
Absolutely fucking based.
Even vtubers know that this place is a SEAnigger monkey infested shithole and only the most braindead of people would pander here
Rangebanning SEA would permanently improve the quality of the board 10fold

>>38338465
Based, containment breaker faggots get the rope.

Who? Also i bet she has a boyfriend.

>shondocuck

>>38340289
Yeah, me

>>38338465
but I've done nothing but post how I love her here...what did I do to deserve this?

>>38340204
Yea, but it shows the difference between her and Shondo.
Shondo isn't a fucking retard like Pippa who puts trust in people that like laughing at a total trash fire. If something comes out on /vt/ or from the kiwis, shondo can safely ignore it or shit on it. Pippa has made the two + twitter niggers her main demographic

>>38338465
Why the fuck would you send questions about 4chan anyways

A simple look at the kawaii and IDOL threads will tell you all you need to know about this place, those 2 companies attracted the worst /vt/ schizos.
Not wanting anything to do do with /vt/ is a smart thing, pandering to retards wont end well.

>>38338465
>quit containment breaking I don’t give a shit about 4chan
>I don’t care if you’re from 4chan just don’t shove it in my face
Seems based to me. This is the smart stance to take regardless of if she is here or not.

>>38338465
Every thread about her is some schizo bait thread created by people like you in which senseless sperging goes on until bump limit. Why the hell would anyone want to be associated with /here/? Especially someone like Shondo who goes out of her way to be nice to everyone and says she wants to spread positivity.

>>38338465
It's probably a case of disassociation to avoid drama.
If she outright admitted to browsing /vt/ it could get her hate from twitter trannies claiming this place is transphobic/racist and shes encouraging it by being /here/.
/wvt/ chuubas all browse the general and post in it but on stream they never even mention 4ch because there is no benefit to tying yourself to this website, it's just a big target on your back. Also fuck containment breaking idiots sending these questions in.

>autistic zoomers and manchildren asking her about 4chan drama
Lel

>>38338465
>quit containment breaking I don’t care
Noooo bros aaaah she’s so mean! She doesn’t like me anymore omg! Ahhhhh nooooooo

>>38340440
Someday she's gonna have to make a decision on how to address the schizos from /here/. I believe (hope) she will be smart enough to pull a pink cat without drastically changing her personality.

>ITT: Self-Hatred

>>38340721
>Why the hell would anyone want to be associated with /here/?
If I ever became a vtuber I'd ignore all of you faggots, bunch of gossiping pre-teen girls.

>>38338465
Bitch is gonna pull a Nyanners and get closer to vshitshow isn't she?

>>38340917
Never seen her have you? Not a single stream?

>>38340917
I'd only be concerned if she started to distance herself from the loli stuff, that's probably a red flag.

>>38340917
No, she's actually handling it more gracefully than that stupid fucking pink cat did. She's not suddenly changing her mind like flipping a switch. She's doing it the most correct way she can. Fuck nyanners, and fuck you for bringing me back to that.

>>38340721
Probably half of it is from her fans trying to shill her, and the other is from bored dramatards

>>38338465
There you have it folks. That's why the only /here/ chuuba you should care about is Kiki and no else. Even Pippa stopped caring about you once she became a 4 views vtuber.

The cope in this thread is unbelievable

>>38341151
And of-course Beatani but she retired.

>>38340973
She’s been a loli for 5 years and has said she will never have an older model only younger for over a year directly. She’s quadroupled in numbers since then and has only become more open about it if anything. Ain’t happening.

>>38340853
Anon, she keeps pushing Sakana to allow her on Metokur's stream, something that would not only likely result in the dox getting talked about to the largest audience she's ever been privy to, but by association with Metokur would get her blacklisted by every corp she hasn't been blacklisted by already.
She is most certainly not smart enough to handle the inevitable, she seems content in making it worse.

>>38338842
Nyanners went moral crusade against loli itself to the point of crusading against Nekopara (female created eroge you dumb hypocrite)
4chan doesn't matter, nobody should care about us.

So this guy got unbanned after spamming the board with anti threads and is at it again?
Again mods please fucking make this board general only, it would filter 90% of the shitposters instantly

>>38341271
Glad she didn't pull a Kyuotto.
Kyuotto was a vtuber who debuted as a Loli succubus, got tons of backlash from twitter troonies then 6 months later makes an adult model, uses it more then announces she'll only use the adult model from now on. Shes now a 2 view andy.

>>38340853
>pull a pink cat
She loses her audience, pink cat had the advantage by being early in the vtubing scene. Also, Phase abandoning this place had been discussed before (the discord censorship leaks) and it led to Pippa getting isolated and breaking down.

>>38341432
Kyuotto's biggest issue is that being a loli does not fit her. She has voice of a chain smoker and presence of a roastie. She's also genuinely boring and would be 2view even if she would stay a loli.

>>38341484
Pippa dug her hole and the fish tried to give her a graceful way out. Her not taking the easy excuse of "oh I can't be a /here/ anymore because sakana won't let me sorry" was insanely dumb.

>>38340961
Of course not.She's british.

>>38338465
she's not wrong for not wanting braindead /vt/ questions which in 90% of the cases are just made to bait for a certain response

>>38341614
No it helps in what makes her and Phase unique. That's why it prospered while other holoclones failed. When she was asked about this, she said, she built a specific type of community and if she is going to abandon that community, she'd graduate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIBHmwP91o&t=3776s

>>38338465
I'd disown 4chan too. Just look at the absolute shitshow this board is, especially outside of generals, and even then only when they aren't being raided by schizos.
Fuck containment breakers too. Have you ever heard about hiding your power level?

>>38341358
Its only a 3day ban for breaking the "do not single out and harass vtubers" rule
Bans on /vt/ are worthless

>>38338465

Kiki would never do this

I guess she prefers the ironic weeb redditors in her fanbase

>>38341786
She's going to pull a pink cat the moment the the dox hits the mainstream or gets a mori collab. She has lied many times to her viewers about other things, why would you think she's telling the truth about graduating and losing her source of income?

>>38341879
BASED

>>38338465
based, my esteem of her just shot up reading this

>>38341964
Nope she tells redditors to fuck off and has said it’s the worst website on the internet many times
It’s possible for someone to hate both reddit and 4chan, it’s not mutually exclusive anon

>>38338969
who the fuck would want to watch someone whose identity is being a 4channer

>>38341351
>crusading against Nekopara
>in reality she actually explained why she really likes the game for like 15 minutes

>>38341320
> something that would not only likely result in the dox getting talked about to the largest audience
Why? i think collabs with Jim or Rekieta are fine, she really wants to do them and the vast majority of her audience including me really want them to happen. The only problem i see is phase getting blacklisted collaterally by a pippa jim collab.

>>38341484
If she keeps growing like this in the future she's gonna have to do something about it. She can't keep having one foot in two shoes.

>>38342009
they sure look like they feel welcome to me!

>>38342052
Did she reply to them and encourage them? I don’t think so.

>>38338969
It's almost like this place is shit.

>>38338969
yes

>>38341966
>>38342046
Because the /here/audience is all she has. It's the /here/people who helped her make kino content like FlaVR. It's the /here/people she likes having fun with. Sacrificing all that in a pink cat gamble will never work because Nyanners got lucky and was a one-time opportunity: she started early in vtubing and is one of the OGs. Even fish seems to have realised that pippa is at her best when kept in her own corner, as she's the one keeping the company growing and profitable.
Also the dox had been proven to be FAKE.

>>38342046
>Why?
Because the first donation in that stream is going to be a $50 link to the dox + the spiciest elements to get Jim to talk about it, and given Jim's history with making fun of those elements, he would think it's hilarious and spend the next hour laughing at her.
It would be a nightmare. It's best if Pippa just lets Jim pass away and hopes it doesn't get brought up rather than try to guest on one of the final monthly streams and guarantee it.

>>38342224
>Also the dox had been proven to be FAKE.
Lol no. The face is fake, every othing thing about it was proven real or suggested to be extremely likely.

>>38341151
Ah yes, Kiki and her 25 views. Sorry, is it 26 now?

>>38342224
>Because the /here/audience is all she has.
What? She is a 4view streamer now anon, a ton of casuals follow her without knowing this place. And even if they knew about it they would never engage with it. Also, some parts of you know what are legit, she even addressed one part of it in a recent stream.

>>38339644
Do you think Shondo knows Lily is a 30 something year old fat dude?

>>38338465
I've been on 4Chan since 2007 and honestly I'd do the same thing.
Put yourself in the shoes of a normie. It's cringe AF!
It's more embarrassing than being a redditor or even a furry.

>>38342523
Wrong Lily
But absolutely not

>>38342485
She repeatedly made it clear that she doesn't want to abandon her community, heck during the censorship arc she fucking broke down from being isolated by the new rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APFPkz5PEq4&t=11619s

And besides, a huge part of her audience absolutely HATE Nyanners and VShojo, they came to pippa because she was the anti-nyanners, if she pulls the same shit they will know and be bent on destroying her.

>>38342476
>>38341902
>>38341151
The problem with kiki isn't that she's a /here/tuber. She's just boring.

>>38342560
reddit user detected

You guys do know Shadow cuts herself, right? You do understand all this disgusting stuff you write about her gets sent to her and it affects her. You guys feel good about yourselves? Making a small weak mentally ill girl hurt herself because of your misplaced anger.

>>38342813
yeah it's pretty funny

>>38342813
>You guys do know Shadow cuts herself, right?
Can I have some of the blood?

>>38342859
lol yea it kinda is

>>38342620
To pull the same shit as Nyanners, Pippa would need to spend months, if not years in some hardcore leftoid echo chamber hugbox akin to tumblr. And desu Pippa always was too much of a free thinker loudmouth exploring depths of internet to get into position like that. It's not her kind of environment.

I can't believe a mentally ill women with a track record as a grifter is duplicitous and flimsy.

>>38339918
>Also she has hated them since August after you know what.
What happened? Haven't kept up with whatever they're doing

>>38338465
the funniest part about that screenshot is zephyrinn failing massively to understand what she's getting at. it seems pretty common with shondo in particular for some reason, where her regulars simply can't understand her morals and lines of reasoning and it's fucking hilarious to me.

A FUCKING MONKEY!?

>>38342620
She lied to her audience this year multiple times about some details which would alienate sections of her audience before 'you know what' happened, I'm amazed you don't think she would do a nyanners if it's between that or getting a real job outside of streaming.
Everyone that came from 4chan even outside of vtubing has pulled a nyanners at some point The only two that made it to the end are Metokur (who will be dead in 3-4 months) and Notch, but even Notch pulled a Nyanners technically, he just undid it after he became a retired billionaire who doesn't need to worry about anything ever again.
Hell you could argue Jim did too (at least retired early). He totally quit streams and videos from Mister Metokur for a year until he got the "likely terminal" diagnosis, and has only been streaming so he has something to leave for Jade and his mom.

The pink rabbit will follow the pink cat. Not if, but when.

>>38342969
KF backstabbed her

>>38342620
Ye i know henri i watched the stream.I hope for Pippa that one day she can stop caring about her "core viewers", and realize that most of her fans probably understand that clinging to here is gonna bring her only despairs and regrets. And the problem with nyanners is not her cutting ties with this place, it's her being a fucking hypocrite.

why was the other thread deleted?

>>38342897
No money would be enough.

>>38342897
>he isn't aware
Bro, her politics is the fakest grift she's got going right now.

>>38342996
>>38343015
She's already earning a lot for herself. Most superchats, most merch sales. At this point she's funding Phase.

>>38342813
Wrong anon, she’s 8 years clean. She cut herself when she was literally 12.

>>38342663
her model filters me extremely hard

This thread once again confirms the lolicon community is some of the most retarded people ever and anyone is smart enough to avoid you clowns.
Any normal person would think you all belong into an asylum after seeing all this schizo shit.

>>38338465
She isn't /here/ nor does she want to come /here/, I don't exactly blame her, it's like the opposite with me when it comes to the knowledge that PEKORA OWNS A FUCKING MONEY

>>38342999
Technically a /pcg/ / former obsessed schizo stalker did.
KF just documented amd archived what he had. She was an idiot for thinking they'd make an exception because it was her when Josh's whole thing is about no exceptions (except himself lol)

shondo defense force is out in full force here huh
she's an objectively shitty person. everything about her reveals her to be nothing more than a two-bit whore

>>38343043
There's difference between being left leaning and being retarded amerimutt leftoid on tumblr. I don't really care about what are Pippa's political stances, but there is difference between her and Nyanners who jumped head-first into tumblr's cesspool and crawled back repeating their ideological mumblings.

>>38343167
>Technically a /pcg/ / former obsessed schizo stalker did.
Thats what he said, KF

>>38342620
>during the censorship arc
The censorship arc is not over, Fishman is turning Phase into just another bland toothless corpo now that he judges they have enough numbers not to rely upon edgy losers for the CCV to prop up his wind-up dolls.

>>38342224
the doxx wasn't fake at all. one of the face pictures was fake, that's it. she literally confirmed it was real on her notpippa twitter account - writing about how it caused her anxiety and it was painful to see her past as a furry being dragged up for everyone to see.

>>38342029
Phase connect

>>38343011
Why isn't this thread deleted?

>>38343228
>her past as a
Lol, she really can't stop lying can she
Fetishes don't just disappear because they're cringe. If they've developed one by your 20s tough luck they're here forever
Especially if there's someone reinforcing it, which applies to this case.

>>38343228
> furry
Always....

>>38343223
Unless the Fish has the memory of a goldfish, he should know that putting her in the banisment room only harms her growth and therefore the growth of Phase as a whole, and letting her do her own thing makes numbers and great content (e.g. broke 2K with FlaVR). Also it isn't just pippa. Lia does not give a fuck about the censorship and still makes Internet deep dives.

>>38343327
what rule is it breaking?

>>38343348
People actively avoid phase connect because of Pippa
half the company are 2views

>>38343384
>People actively watch phase connect because of Pippa
ftfy

>>38343384
Are you sure they aren't just shit?

>>38343228
>past as a furry
You can't just turn it off. You can only get better at hiding it from others.

>>38343348
>Unless the Fish has the memory of a goldfish
He's a chinese "entrepreneur" - it shouldn't come as a surprise that he can't help but self-sabotage chasing bigger profits.

Shondo should collab with Charzu and learn how to be a proper imouto.

>>38343478
>>38343338
>>38343330
Thankfully her dog is a girl.
Though what's terrifying is that it might be worse, a furry household is not a place that a dog belongs

>>38343263
Phase Connect hates 4chan it's just Pippa that has hang ups

>>38343674
Only Xalamon and the Discordtrannies do

>>38343694
Yeah bro Tenma and Lumi love our le sekrit club that's why they advocate for tranny rights on stream

>>38343743
Gay people make Lia sick, also told trannies to join the 41%

>>38343622
Shondo is way more imouto than her, she’s way too bratty

>>38343694
No I'm pretty sure the entire management realizes the enormous risks and hard cap on growth that comes from being associated with 4chan.
All it takes is one slip up and Susan demonetizes Pippa's channel and she has to pink cat on over to twitch.

>>38343622
>>38343841
I would argue Charzu is a lot more western imouto aka bratty. Shondo is a lot more anime imouto, sweet and clingy with a bratty remark here and there. Latter is a lot less common in the west.

>>38338465
Pekora bought a fucking monkey???

>>38343743
Lumi is like Kanye, she just does whatever keeps her on people's minds. Her entire personality is her false sense of "omg I'm so cool and hip and I know so many things, I'm so cultured am I right guys????" people pleasing behavior, and going to 4chan for some years.

She's a total cunt.

>>38338465
It seems it was less asking questions and more about expecting a fucking ego stroke. How pathetic.

>>38341837
I got a three day ban for saying Luca isn't W***e. Mods focus in on inane shit that could never be harassing or doxxing.

>>38344043
that's typical of any university student. they all seem to develop some sort of superiority complex, either to hide their insecurity and lack of confidence or because they really think they're better than the "uneducated masses".

>>38343430
Half of Phase is quite weak while the other half are solid chuubas that will grow well with enough exposure. The Phase friends need to be open to collab with more of the girls. I don't think Remi has collabed with anyone outside of PC yet. Meanwhile all of her genmates have besides Panko, I think.

>>38343907
I've been watching her, and even she has the experience to know when not to engage. That's why after the censorship backlash the Fish just leaves her alone with the most talent freedoms. So far, as demonstrated with FlaVR, it's working for her excellently, no wonder Lia is following the same path and rising from being a 2view.
>hard cap
Being a censored generic Holo/niji clone also has its hard cap. The big two themselves, Hololive and Nijisanji; no one will watch a small corpo when they can watch the big ones anyway.

>>38338465
>Please stop breaking containment you faggots
>OHONONONONO she disowned >us boys
Do newfags really? What she actually said is completely different to what you posted.

>>38338465
Starting off or inclining by pandering to 4chan is the biggest red flag a vtuber can have.

It is basically like GFE or coombaiting but worse because the 4chan way of communication simply cannot become mainstream and at best they become "based" milquetoast provocateurs who bend the knee to Susan or Twitter retards, at worst they do a Nyanners.

>>38344198
Phase just needs a non /here/ to really hit solid 3view status. Until then 4views and the big 3 corps are going to keep their distance to avoid association.

>>38338794
Knowing that you can have an effect on them is what makes it fun

>>38344360
So Tenma

>>38344198
Remi has collabed with Oceane from Kawaii.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6F6Calmu6M

>>38344280
You don't have to hard censor yourself, just not pander to 4chan and /pol/fags which will end up with you attached by the hip to everything bad that happens by association.

>>38338465
I wouldn't want to talk about this place either

I DONT KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THAT
BTW IGNORE THE FACT THAT I STRAIGHT UP PANDERED TO 4CHAN

>>38344689
Literally where
She's never pandered to 4chan retard

>>38338465
See it seems like the issue is that people are more worried about what we are saying about Shondo instead of the fact that Pekora bought a fucking monkey.

>>38344736
literally the /entire/ reason she had a strong debut was because of her 4chan pandering and advertising

>>38344360
>going to keep their distance to avoid association.
Filian is collabing with Phase next week.
>>38344416
That one slipped my mind.

>>38344777
seek help

>>38342033
Keep being delusional

>>38344777
Seek fucking help. She had a strong debut because she did ASMR for 4 years and hyped it up for months. She has never pandered here and has always said she doesn't care if you're from here but keep it to yourself. 4chan is one of the "big 3" sites she hates.

>>38344826
>>38344867
were you even here before her debut? every day there was an advertisement for her debut. every single day
yes she did ASMR that was popular but people that watch long ASMR videos on youtube are not people that watch twitch streamers.

>>38344689
>pander to 4chan to secure an audience early on
>denounce 4chan when you become big enough to not need that audience

I will never understand why people keep supporting /here/ or /here/ pandering vtuber, you are literal keks being used by females. They will never fuck you, that's for discord groomers

>>38344896
>shilling is the same as bait threads
Yeah she got to 1k viewers through 4chan bait threads. You are retarded.

>>38338465
Based. Those people asking those questions are just SEA children anyways

>>38344914
yeah she did. there is absolutely ZERO
Z E R O recognition from her on reddit.
where did it come from then? oh yeah, 4chan. where she was mentioned every day and still gets mentions nearly every day
you are the blind one.
keep fucking defending her to your dying breath, i'm sure she'll thank you for it.

>>38343674
also lumi

>>38344896
>advertisement
Anon it was shitty bait threads just like it is now. Actually delusional behaviour. She was never a 4chan pandering chuuba.
Even if between the bait she was being advertised here by a few dumb retards, how does that make her a /here/ chuuba or make her a /here/ panderer? There's dozens of chuubas that have people advertise them here every day, it doesn't make then 4chan chuubas. Grow up.

>>38344777
/vt/ didnt even exist when she started doing ASMR newfag

>>38344957
Lumi's own mods are the reason Phase had a censorship arc and Pippa got isolated.

>>38344982
your point being? you actually think someone that watched a shadow asmr video in 2017 or something is magically going to turn into her twitch stream?

>>38338465
>She doesn’t know that most discords are made by 4channers

>>38344954
What the fuck does reddit have to do with literally anything retardchama? She isn't a reddit chuuba either.
People have been flooding the catalog with bait threads about her for over a year now. She inclined because a clipper that only clips her blew up on YouTube. She gradually grew from 2view to about 300 average after her debut and then blew up to where she is now due to clips. She was a 2view in the first place because she did ASMR for years and shilled her Twitch on her 100k YouTube.
How fucking inflated is your self importance? Kiki is /here/'s BIG chuuba, shilled constantly, talked about nonstop, and she struggles to break 30 fucking viewers.

>>38345038
I am not talking about her popularity RIGHT NOW
i am talking about her debut and how she had decent numbers from the off.
How blind are you? Why do you defend her? She has shown that she has no shame whatsoever. Find someone better.

>>38344954
Anon she has spokenly hated both 4chan and reddit and told viewers who say they're from either to fuck off. Just because some dumb nigger has been spamming bait threads about her here for months doesn't make her a 4chan chuuba. How dumb are you?

>>38345038
Kiki is just boring.

>>38345038
Because kiki is a bad streamer, 4chinks can only push you so much. Shondo was interesting and just needed 4chan shilling to get out there

>>38345072
You are literally too braindead to argue with. Congrats.

>>38345091
Why are you making shit up?

>>38344178
>or because they really think they're better than the "uneducated masses"
They are, in fact, better than the uneducated masses in general, unless their field is fucking humanities or arts.

>>38345123
Literally link me to the dozens of shill threads that made her get hundreds of viewers. It totally wasn't months of shilling on her YouTube and Twitter, no, it was the Indonesian schizo forum she openly hates.

>shondo says something
>immediately clarifies it further
>anon defends the original statement with an argument contrary to her clarification
Does this happen as often with anyone else?

>>38345185
Yes, it literally was. She had multiple 500 post threads every day before her debut. That's where her initial numbers came from.

>>38345227
Ok. Show me

>>38345227
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/subject/fallenshadow/end/2021-12-04/
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/subject/shondo/end/2021-12-04/
Yes /vt/ made her. Months of shilling got her to where she is.

Only faggots talk about 4chan outside of 4chan.

>>38345316
>not a single thread less than a month before her debut
Kek people really just go on the internet and lie so blatantly. Pathetic. Imagine trying to claim responsibility for the popularity of a chuuba who had a very established fanbase years before she started streaming.

I come here everyday and I hate you faggots.

>>38338465
From what I've watched happen with other /here/tubers, it's not just 4chan questions but also trying to trick her into saying edgy/racist shit so they can clip it and post it on other boards to bring more shitty people into her chat.

Shondo shills working overtime today, just hope doxxniggers dont dig up the nigerian boyfriend

>>38345430
its so sad imagine defending a schizo woman that actively hates you

Nobody wants to be associated with a filled with stupid racist, and hateful millennials who are bitter at the world because of their own failure

>>38345430
I would argue the schizo liars are working incredibly harder, imagine making threads about her like this day after day when she will never see or give a fuck.

>>38338465
I don't see anything wrong with this. Why the fuck would you ever want to associate yourself with this sewage dump of a site?

>>38345471
who cares what a schizo whore thinks, half her fanbase is here so its fun riling them up.

>>38345438
>containment breaking nigger spamming a random chuuba's marshmallow with links to 4chan threads
I hate you too, I would argue most people posting on this board also hate you.

>>38338465
Good?

This thread reads like a bunch of tourist who love to containment break and also forget that vtubing is a business. They have a brand to maintain you won't get anywhere openly being a le epic 4channer

>>38345430
>dont dig up the nigerian boyfriend
You may call me a nigger but im no nigerian

>>38338465
>She thinks the Pekora monkey thing is funny
Fucking forced meme.

>>38345171
keep telling yourself that at night when you're crying yourself to sleep over your $300k debt and worthless degree.

>>38338465
Based. You faggots really believe your pathetic validation is worth the hassle?

Anyways, why are people hung up about the 4chan thing when what she said about ASMR is even more ridiculous.
Everything about her is ridiculously fake and pathetic.

>>38345650
what did she say about ASMR?

>>38345650
She said she hates doing the mommy voice, she's been saying that since 2018. What's wrong with that?

>>38345688
She said ASMR makes her feel gross and that it's shitty content and that people that liked her for her ASMR should go away.

>>38345650
Wait what did she say about ASMR, i thought that was her whole thing?

It all starts with "I don't want to be associated with 4chan" and sooner or later it will be "those incels groomed me to be their child sex queen, I promise I'll get a proper adult model" when she gets a bit of pushback on Twitter

>>38345720
i very much doubt she said any of that.

>>38339870
>>38339900
These. She made it clear in her first stream after debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9QbNPrA4Q&t=7566s

>>38345720
Ok show me

>>38345720
Well it pretty much is the lite version of camgirling so I can see where she's coming from

>>38345763
>>38345776
https://twitter.com/shadowchama/status/1598155789172363264

>>38345795
Ok so she said she used to feel forced to pump out videos because she had no other income and she did the mommy voice shit because viewers wanted that, and she felt forced to tell stories she didn't like. She's been saying this since 2018.
Ok now show me where she said what you said she said.

>>38345605
>t. uber driver

>>38345795
What mommy ASMR is she talking about i thought her little sister stuff was the popular ones?

>>38345783
Indeed. She's a very strong and powerful independent woman.
I'm glad she's focusing on doing much more high quality content like playing video games very poorly.

>>38345795
>i produce videos at the pace that i want to produce them, as opposed to kind of being forced to cram them out to keep a roof over my head
>there was a point where no matter how miserable i was, or how creatively blocked i was, or how much i just really, really didn't feel like doing asmr that day, i had to sit down and record on the limited occasions i have or that'd be the difference between paying rent or not the-
>next month.
i'm not in that situation anymore, and instead i can put my creative energy into videos i genuinely enjoy and want to create rather than what will bring in views. tldr, i'd rather make higher quality videos that i actually like rather than hate slower!
>*claws out of the mommy asmr pit, my nails bent back, blood running down my arms, sobbing and covered head to toe in dirt, multiple bones broken* p-please... p-please don't make me go back.... oh god... please..... please..
How is saying "I don't like doing mommy ASMR and I'm really glad I can now focus on making the ASMR content I want to make at a pace that doesn't make me feel rushed" any of what you said?

>>38345846
Aside from her 3h long trigger test, pretty much all of her big videos are mommy ones. Look in her comments section and it's people asking nonstop for deep voice.
She even developed a complex over it and talks a lot about how she doesn't really believe people like her actual voice or her loli voice because for years it was just mommy begging. Apparently it made her feel really creatively stuck and like she couldn't make the videos she wanted to for a long time because people were complaining about them.
https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadow/videos

>>38345881
Okay, where is all the ASMR content recently? She's pretty much stopped doing it. Her content quality has fucking plummeted the past few months, not even including ASMR.
She's being condescending on top of being an asshole to her fans.

>>38345992
How has her content quality plummeted? Her streams are longer, higher quality, her zatsudans are longer and more interesting, she's gotten better at gaming, and is constantly talking about how grateful she is to be where she is. She hasn't stopped doing ASMR, she's doing a stream the next opportunity she can.
Your whole agenda is that ASMR isn't her primary content anymore, but it literally hasn't been since she started streaming in March 2021. That's when the uploads slowed down.
So why the fuck are you complaining NOW?

>>38346078
Because she is consistently trying to make me feel like shit for watching her. Today was the final straw.

>>38346176
Anon... she didn't stream today...
Are you ok? Do you need a hug?

>38346176
kek

>>38338465
Goo.
/vt/ is a cesspit of lies and faggotry and every chuuba should disown this place

>>38346194
No I am not okay I have not taken my meds in weeks

>>38346406
Please meds anon

All /here/ vtubers are invariably embarrassing and self destructive and disingenuous in ways that make Shondo seem well adjusted by comparison, and the retards that get big peepees just from hearing them say 4chan or /vt/ out loud are even worse. Either they're depressed schizo losers who've been around this place long enough that they made the mistake of having it become a part of their identity, and subsequently fall in love in the most pathetic of ways with the first girl to come along and exploit that, or even worse they're election tourists and seamonkeys who shit themselves if they see an obnoxious edgy retard be BASED BASED REDPILLED BASED BASED BASED BASED SHE'S JUST LIKE ME OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE SAID THAT I'M TELLING MY FRIENDS ON KIWIFARMS BASED BASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (the ones currently making up at least half of this thread)

Being out and out /here/ is a mistake that's a disaster waiting to happen, and anyone is well within their right to not want to be associated with you retards. Especially the particularly autistic ones who full on break containment and spam someone's marshmallow with /vt/ brand dramafaggotry.

>>38345009
>you actually think someone that watched [PL] is going to turn into a [Vtuber] watcher?
You are genuinely braindead

>>38346470
>>38346470
>Shondo seem well adjusted by comparison
her whole shtick is pedo RP shes the least well adjusted

>>38346524
>PL
Where are these newfags coming from?

>>38346470
That's a lot of words just to say that you hate yourself

>>38338810
Joining a corpo so that she can get her numbers axed even more? She should stay indie.

>>38346524
ASMR content is for adult men, not teenage twitch watchers.

>>38346661
Shondo's done many polls and most of her viewers are 25-30. Second biggest demographic is 30-35 then 20-25. She makes fun of us for being old and bans anyone under 18 in chat.
You might not watch Twitch often but not every stream is random fleshtuber emote spamming zoomers. There's plenty of chuubas with chats like that (the Vshojos for one) but Shondo's chat's pretty normal.

>>38346661
Shondo has straight up told us multiple times her Twitch audience demographic is older than her YouTube demographic. Her comments on YouTube are full of retarded children and her Twitch mods ban any under 18s. It's actually the other way around.

>>38345795
Lol what a cunt

>>38345795
Reminder she started doing ASMR when she was 15 so she was underage and being hounded by fucking mommy coomers begging her for deep voice sexy mommy videos. Grim.

>>38346617
Do you think that all the /here/tubers aren't doing the same shit to various degrees? Like look at the average Kiki thread. That kind of pandering is one of the most popular /here/ traits, and really it's the reason why so many shondofags are on this board in the first place.
>>38346643
No, just (You).

is this the one who is dying all thew time?

>>38346996
No thats Ironmouse, the twitch scammer

>>38347016
no no no Ironlung has been dying, there was a lolituber who starts hacking up blood regularly. I can't remember if its this one or not.

>>38346996
One of the many yes. She's anorexic and deathly cold all the time, fucked up her immune system by not leaving her house, and lives with a bunch of snot nosed school kids who keep making her sick. Recently she left her house for the first time in months to mail merch and got a common cold from it. She was fucked up for a week straight, had a fever for a week straight over 100, tried to stream multiple times and sounded awful and her voice is still croaky and fucked up now 2 weeks later. She got COVID a year ago and it permanently presumably fucked up one of her lungs to the point she now has to use an inhaler and struggles to do deep voices she used to do all of the time. She's also coughed up blood a few times, vomits just randomly, passes out all of the time and has said that's just how it is for her.

>>38347016
Mouse is exploiting her illness, but it is a real illness. Her info is out there, and easily cross-refenced.

>>38344376
The schizo anti mindset

>>38347121
shes also an institutionalized looney as someone who has family members that are legit schizos you are fucking idiot if you believe a word thats coming out of her mouth, shes fucking insane.

>>38347244
>you are a idiot for believing a word that comes out of her mouth
>heres this proof i have of her saying she hates her fans and content

which is it?

>>38345014
There's a difference between the ones that can behave and the ones that break containment.

>>38345014
She doesn't care. Just stop telling her to her face.
How fucking hard is it to not break containment for you retards? That's all she told you to do and somehow that's too much.

>>38343167
She actually thought KF would make an exception for her?
You think she would learn how fickle those people can be.

>>38338465
To be fair, who would want anything to do with this shit hole.

>>38343407
>People actively watch Pippa because of Pippa
ftfy
Her views don't translate to most of the rest of the company and some of her antics actively drive viewers (and sponsors) away.

>>38347304
what are you talking about? you just ignore her, shes fucking insane and prob on some pretty heavy drugs that fuck her up even more, ppl like her are a lost cause, she rolled the dice and got fucked in life, if you want to watch content of a legit insane person go ahead lmao.

Pippa watchers watch Pippa and ONLY Pippa. Thinking otherwise is just pure delusion.

>>38347426
Then why is she still growing? Mr shit for brains

>>38347426
Pippa still gets sponsorships, and publicity for her means trickle-down publicity for Phase. That's why the censorship was a bad idea, it hamstrungs them into acting like bootleg holoclones, and of course, why watch a holoclone when you can watch Hololive. That's also why Gen2, instead of growing on their own, are fighting for the spot to be raided by Pippa because she's the only one with talent freedoms.

>>38338465
based, literally only negative to embrace it. if you cater to /vt/ they'll either move on to a new chuuba two months later or harass you when you eventually 'turn' on them

>>38345605
>when you're crying yourself to sleep over your $300k debt
burger spotted, lemao

>>38347801
>move on to a new chuuba two months later
If you're boring

>>38343430
this, few small corpos have made it big on their own merits basically besides Pippa, and the biggest Lia stream was basically pippa-lite (CWC review). lumi was the Pippa of Cyberlive, still is a big Phase and literally based her entire career around /here/.

there are a fair few random ass indies who wipe the floor with any small corpo girl - maybe those girls just fucking suck + they don't know how to flex and take advantage of their system. isolating your by-far biggest talent is not how you take advantage of the corpo mutualism type thing. pippa could walk away from phase and be just fine, in fact all the more so because she really, really does not need them because they are so clearly hellbent on trying to clarify that the rest of phase really really "does not need" her (when in fact they direly do). the same cannot be said of most of their other girls.

She's just mad anons found out about her 6'6 bf and posted it here back whe she was doing her "I'm afraid of touching men uwu" bit.

>>38347801
or you could just not turn on this board to begin with. pippa hasn't, she considers us family. you bet your ass pippa would be discarded as nyanners 2/3.0 if she did. but she hasn't. so then, maybe don't be a shallow turncoat clearly abusing the goodwill of a crowd, and people won't call you out on being that?

>>38347966
What, do you mean the one she openly talked about the first time someone asked about him? I think the only one who cares is you, sorry.

>>38347987
because you've seen this board, people have toilet paper thin skin and will fabricate drama at anything they can

>>38347987
/vt/ is like high school, and most people that are no longer in high school do not want to be associated with high school. The drama, gossip, shitflinging and dumb bullshit that goes on here is not something a virtual entertainer should go out of their way to be associated with. Even in Pippa's case there's a ton of niggers who shit on her constantly and try to turn anything she says or does into a rrat or bait.

based pippiggers derailing shondoschizo's thread

>>38348280
>there's a ton of niggers who shit on her constantly and try to turn anything she says or does into a rrrat or bait
Pippa knows how to deal with them. She simply doesn't engage.

>Anonymous website
>Expecting the equivalent of tripfags to stay around

Don't be retarded anon lmao.
It's not /vt/, all the content creators who got a leg here like RLM or Internet Historian or hundreds more leave because the amount of trolling eventually overcomes all the good willing Anons. There is so much shit, doxxing, spreading of lies, it's just not worth it.

And that's a good thing. You wouldn't crawl back into your mothers womb after being born. This place is great to start stuff since anonimity breeds freedom, but not growth or sustainability.

Good, appealing to this place will never end well

Look either one of two things will happen to pippa. Things keep going as usual or everything basically collapses. We’ll just have to wait and see which it’ll be.

>>38339870
I don't know why there're a lot of schizos here thinking any vtuber that mentions 4chan once or twice, or just have an acid humour makes them automatically an /here/. They are also thinking Tenma and other PC vtubers are a bunch of /here/ as well.

>>38347785
>Pippa still gets sponsorships, and publicity for her means trickle-down publicity for Phase.
Just because she gets some scraps, that doesn't mean she hasn't been driving off other sponsors. Also, compare her numbers with those of the other girls. How many viewers who are there for her do you think actually watch the rest of PC?

>>38348830
The definition of /here/ is vague. To some people just acknowledging Le Sekrit Club is /here/ enough. And to the other side of the spectrum you have hard pandering /here/ chuubas

>>38348280
It's more like a shared office water cooler between all the companies and indies at once. if you take shit too seriously here you're missing the use of it.

shondo herself should understand this better than fucking anyone considering she IMO successfully gimped Fauna out the gate and it took fucking years to heal over yet she's on good terms with her now. probably quite a few people hated shondo when they first heard of her as "that" girl who leaked sensitive shit /here/ when Fauna debuted but over time came around to her and became fans, etc. people talking about you is >>>>>> just being ignored in dead silence. it gives you an opportunity to flip them, she took a controversial first impression and turned an actual legit fandom around from it.

with a legit fandom comes legit concerns. if she starts to just ignore the openness she had and pretend she's too good to talk to the petty rabble on the streets she's getting too much of an ego and either will float away from keeping touch with her fans and self-destruct, or not.

>>38338465
Based we hate ourselves here

>>38349056
what

>>38338465
Good, she should keep this place at arms length as she caters to us so her content naturally filters the socially well adjusted. I wouldn't want it any other way.

>>38338465
why the hell would she ever want to come here? this thread is a prime example of people ganging up on her and shit talking her. Shondo already has schizo affective disorder. coming here and reading a bunch of anti comments would ruin what's left of her mind.

>>38348948
>driving off other sponsors
This hypothetical again when there isn't real evidence of Phase being blacklisted from ANY company.

>How many viewers who are there for her do you think actually watch the rest of PC?
Because as I've said, they're hamstrung by the rules, which means a boring stream.This makes a Pippa collab even more valuable as, since she's the person with the most talent freedoms, they can express themselves more when she's around. It worked for Lia massively, it worked for Panko.

>>38349217
>literal schizo
All the more that she should be a /here/tuber.

>>38349217
She does come here.

Idk how anyone can listen to this girls voice. She sounds so fucking weird. I can't even call it cunny, it sounds like she's dying all the time.

>>38349442
>she does because I say so

>>38349469
She is

>>38349113
she made a giant fucking name for herself as the knife in Fauna's back, and that was explicitly a thing /here/. however, because there is incredible value in just being talked about over and over, she eventually managed to exploit even that infamy and cultivate fans.

What I wonder is if she herself literally does not fucking understand that this is exactly what happened? She got the blame for leaking sensitive shit on Fauna during her debut. She was totally unknown to here before that but basically everyone /here/ knew her name within a few weeks of that. That's why so many of her fans are from here. Does she not comprehend this?

>>38349598
/here/ has absolutely broken your mind
You are both deranged and deluded.

If I was a vtuber I'd want nothing to do with this shithole either, y'all are a bunch of insufferable faggots

>>38349598
>4chan's schizo narrative is exactly how it happened and everyone sees it that way
Actual insanity

>>38349640
bro it's the most basic fucking fact you can say about her. probably over half her fans heard of her because of Fauna if not like 80%.

it's possible that she's grown enough that people would have heard of her through algo shit by now but the seed permanently is "that" association.

>>38349723
I cannot even conceive how you can function with a brain that works this way. Holy shit anon, please continue.

>>38349709
>>38349640
>>38349750
>no new IP
actual samefag.

>>38349598
>>38349723
>>38349056
>>38349766
>no new IP
Heh

>/vt/ manages to out-schizo literal schizo (ironically (unironically))

>>38338465
Bitch, Pippa is next.

>>38349879
>inb4 shondo herself is like half this thread calling everyone else schizo

shondo take your fucking meds. if you did then up your dose.

>>38338810
Didn't she refuse hololive?

>>38349524
Shondo I love you!

>>38338465
>cringy faggots who constantly scream about this website
ew i don't blame her

>>38349056
>probably quite a few people hated shondo when they first heard of her as "that" girl who leaked sensitive shit /here/ when Fauna debuted

funny how thats one of the biggest memory hole'd things on this board.Shondo was fucking despised and anti'd /here/ for like 2 months straight, and those same anti's from the thread tuning in starting turning 180 and shilling her after watching her content.

>>38350028
No, that's just a rrat. She actually tried to early on but Holo went with Fauna instead which caused her to seethe

>>38338465
disowning containment breakers is the right thing to do under every circumstance.

>>38350101
>Shondo
>shilled here
Literally when. Since before she debuted as a VTuber it's just been schizo anti thread after schizo anti thread.

>>38338465
But she's right. Acting like a bunch of redditors from r/4chan is annoying and for faggots. Stop breaking containment.

>>38339870
So "fun" or "one of the worst places on the internet" which is it?

Anyway I feel like most outsiders shitting on people /here/ just follow this le funny containment breaker twitter profiles and perhaps might check a catalogue thread or two (where most of the twitterleech screenshots come from).

>>38350178
This

There's honestly more antis threads of her than anything else

>>38350101
I literally have never seen a single Shondo shill thread that wasn't a thinly disguised bait thread. She had a few generals that were invaded by bait horribly so every actual fan of her went to /lig/ and /uoh/. She has a bunch of vicious antis however who make threads like this about her literally every day.

>>38350101
People hated her for fucking with Hololive but at the same time some part of her mindset is actually very similar to here aka HoloJP-style preferences. which is completely different from someone like nyanners or vei who are basically antithetical to that so are genuinely hated.

Shondo was talked about more as an object of curiosity, but it's like the more you heard about her, the more you could see her as like a bit of an antihero for it (albeit off her meds). I mean her hero is Rushia right? Kinda tells you everything you need to know. Fandead are fuckin' nuts, she won't be able to escape that kind of thing. Which I guess is all good and well because she is also fucking nuts.

Dont watch her but she openly shit on male vtubers so she's based to me

>>38350466
It's all her fault. She ignored me.

t. OG antis who's negativity spread to others

>>38350353
Twitter cherrypicks shit and ignores the fact a lot of threads are actually very calm chill places.

Containment breakers pretty much can't be taken in good faith ever however, IMO all shondo should have done is denounce containment breakers and call them wannabe redditors. shuts down /here/talk but also doesn't disavow it.

>>38343999
You're never gonna believe this anon, but that monkey? Yeah, that's me. I'M PEKORAS MONKEY

I just pissed myself

>>38338969
That's why I don't donate to hags. Only to subaru because she's pure and I love her very much.

>>38351244
Isn't Subaru a hag by now?

>>38350160
I mean this information came directly from her stream, we just don't know how trustworthy shondo actually is making this a rrat territory (but not exactly unbelievable assuming her issues with Fauna were resolved.

>>38338465
Meh. Pussy.

>>38341487
this. her little publicity stunt was fun to watch for what it was.

>>38338465
>The very first based thing I've seen from this bitch alongside pipshit lumtard and all the other shilled bitches here
Extremely fucking based, I still won't watch her or any of those other retards you fags shill though

>>38351377
yeah sure and I also got a job offer from Google to make 500k but turned it down to keep flipping burgers.

EN management also seems to not realize that the UK exists and they picked plain oatmeal bland girls like Bae and Sana over someone spicy as fuck like Shondo. they couldn't handle her, they don't have the balls. so they went with the nice gentle (read: controllable) girls.

people who are so naive
they actually believe a terminally online girl addicted to attention is ignoring the place that gives her the most attention outside of discord
she probably reads every thread about her

I have a serious question.....why do you guys let this place define you as a viewer as if is some badge of honor? ''Nooooo my oshi doesn't care about my secret club'' stop having this place as your real oshi

>>38351727
she NEEDS to stop shaving

>>38352622
it's because nyanners set the tone for what happens when a chuuba "gets over" 4ch, they go from friend to enemy - a traitor is far worse than someone just being a stranger.

beyond that, if you remove 4chan from the convo, it literally can be stated using and abusing the trust of a group for your own ends. how do you think that used group is going to feel about the person afterwards. it's actually the most logical thing to go "you know what, fuck that person" and it's insane to go "this person has clearly abused knowing us for their own gain and won't talk to us and turns others against us, but we should be fine with it and continue liking him." that would in fact be insane.

>>38347376
She's the equivalent of an election tourist; she just watched Geno's Chris-chan documentary and few Metokur videos, probably got drawn to the associated kiwifaggotry because of their seething over tranny furry ponyfaggots (like Chris) that made it hard being one herself, and then assumed/acted like she was an elite oldfag that understood the extremely autistic forces she was pandering to.

>>38352780
No. Go to the zoo if you want to see hairy monkeys. Or the closest ghetto, if you have a gun to protect yourself.

>>38352622
Mentally ill loners easily duped by duplicitous grifters having their world view shattered when they find out women can lie.

>>38352955
Yeah for Nyanners I guess it made sense but for Shadow I really don't see it, It makes more sense to get mad at her if in the future she drops her loli model or start pushing male collabs

>>38338465
Yikes

>>38352986
Yeah she's quite naive and pretty much soaks up anything around here like a sponge good or bad. She mooshes a bunch of shit together from different groups that weren't really that relevant to each other. The 2016+ election tourist crowd is nothing at all like Kiwifags for example, and neither of those crowds are like the /a/-/jp/ crowd at all and so on.

I think the only /here/chuuba I've ever heard who actually-seemed to know a bit about broader 4chan and not in some tryhard desperate-to-fit-in way would be koopa, and even then she's not a truly old-oldfag. However that's not to say I don't see clear signs of actual-user lineage in some chuubas (Ina for example is extremely old-/a/), but there is also a point where if you're that old you take the Rules of the Internet shit seriously and/or know that containment breaking is extreme cringe, rather on /a/ it's called hiding your powerlevel aka literally never talk about 4chan outside of here and never reveal or preach your weeb-ness to the random public etc. All stuff Pippa is very very well beyond understanding.

>>38353796
>koopa
The bitch who threw her entire career away because she fucked a fan?

>>38353949
yes. that doesn't take away from the fact she actually-knows and uses this site for something besides vtubers. it's kind of a shame really, she could have been the big spiritual leader of here if she didn't do that. but whatever, what's done is done.

>>38352955
Nyanners no longer caring about 4chan was the least of her problems and don't even try to pull the slippery slope card on me.

>>38353796
Mori but she's in Hololive so she's disqualified. There's even a digital footprint of her works on the site. And since we're talking about Koopa, the chuubas that followed her are the same type and never really mention the site but still experienced its history (such as one artfag who literally has one of the 4chan banners in this site to this day, /jp/ IIRC), but they're /wvt/ so they don't count either.

>>38351371
She's 33

>>38354207
basically yeah if you were a weeb in the 00s you likely were very here, hence Ina/Sana/Mori etc. reddit didn't even fucking exist, neither did discord or twitter etc, this site was THE spot for weebs in the English-speaking world. Since a lot of chuubas are young, I think they don't comprehend just how fucking deep that root actually goes. The term waifu itself was popularized here, aka waifuism itself is from here in the English-speaking world and in chuuba parlance that's kind of like gosling'ing (also from here) etc.

>>38354681
also even the term 'weeb' itself is from here too, etc. zoomers I think don't comprehend that basically the entire lattice/structure they stand on comes back to 4chan as the foundation. all they see is the /pol/ shit.

the only trend not from here is the twitter anime tranny shit from the last like 5 years but you know what, I'm fine with us not owning that i.e distorting/appropriating the culture for political shit.

>>38354839
Yeah.
Whenever faggots shill a chuuba as an "oldfag" because she was here before they were but couldn't recall anything before the 2016 elections I just recoil in disgust. I understand that the language that is used in this site has trickled down to the wider internet and has been reappropriated by normalfags (fucking 8 year olds calling themselves anonymous on tiktok), but it's still easy to spot if someone picked up these terms because of their stay here or just by cultural osmosis. So to celebrate /here/ness is often just newfags wanting a place to be edgy and feel like they belong, and these newfags are fucking normalfags because the entire internet knows about 4chan anyway and wouldn't even come to this place even if they were born years before.