/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Kek

Anon, I...

You must be bored, OP. Wanna talk about it?

>>38324620
I'll bite anon.
Let's try a thought experiment. Would Phase Connect be able to survive without Pippa?

Anycolor and Cover are companies worth billions of dollars anon. Phase connect is probably lucky to valued at over one million.

>>38324620
Until the other girls do Pippa numbers they will never be close

>Mogs your entire company in one week
oh no phasebros.. we got too cucky

>>38324982
>Idol company
>has an actual plan when debuting their talents and pulled it off effectively to have the highest CCV out of every corpo except Niji/Holo
>Meanwhile Phase's gen 2 are stillborns

lol

fish nigger is going to drive them into the ground trying to sell coffee to soda swilling neckbeards that he's also ostracizing.

>>38324620
Pippa isn't even good enough to qualify for vshojo. PC still has a long way to go.

LMAO

Someone post Selen laughing at PC please. It needs to be in every PC thread.

>>38325765
https://files.catbox.moe/23ybzo.mp4

>>38324982
I remember Phase shills saying PC Gen 2 was really good during their debuts and fishman was a god in scouting. Why haven't they inclined yet?

>>38326126
>god in scouting
They literally got the "my boyfriend" girl.

It’s hilarious how badly you guys want to be with big companies as if anyone in Hololive or Nijisanji even knows who the fuck you are. Even Idol EN surpassed you in a week sit the fuck down Lmao.

>>38324982
Who and who?

>>38324836
>Would Phase Connect be able to survive without Pippa?
Yes, but they'd be a literal who company with nothing to make them stand out even amongst the other small corpos. The company has no identity beyond being the company with Pipkin Pippa in it (which is a massive liability in and of itself), and the fact is that almost all of the other talents are either only seeing success through their association with her, or just aren't seeing success at all in spite of their association with her.

>>38325070
> highest CCV
Getting over 1K for a debut isn’t rare tho it’s happened before with other corpos as well.

>>38324620
Only Pippa, Lumi and Tenma runenr up
Most of Phase girls really struggle hard to go above 200 average, and some don't even go past 100

>>38324982
anon the jew money is running out. their ccv dipped so hard after debut.

>>38324620
It's Hololive, Nijisanji and VShojo.
If we account those less mainstream ones then there's also Noripro, VSPO, 774 and VOMS.
Then there's Sony/Phase, Kawaii and Tsunderia.
And THEN there's Phase.
Pippa is their only known talent and there's barely any trickling from her. That's not enough.

I hope they're paying Low Effort Clips, I watched one of his summaries of Pippa's AI adventure and that sent me down a rabbit hole that let me discover Rie. She's great.

>>38327862
>Tsunderia
It has a total of two talents worth a damn and they're only in the 100-200 ccv range

phase exists to remind us that you don't have to be popular like vshojo to be a complete shitshow

>>38327862
>It's Hololive, Nijisanji and VShojo.
These three will be at the top for a long time, OP is in fantasy land

The problem seems to be that Fishman keeps killing their momentum because the company isn't evolving in the direction that he wants. He should take a page out of Yagoo's book and just ride the wave and figure out how to get back to shore later.

>>38326126
>Why haven't they inclined yet?
Rei and Shiina had a few yabs that killed the entire gens growth.

>>38328756
QRD?

>>38327043
>massive liability
Yet so far, Pippa just keeps propelling them to new heights, so she's currently a massive boon

Do you guys still think Pippa will sell out and betray everyone like Nyanners and every other /here/ girl has done?

>>38324620
sure, but yor order is wrong, phase is in "the big three" only not from top, but bottom

>>38328432
The fact that Tsunderia lost literally half of the company, including several of the most popular talents and most of the staff, and yet still has several talents left in the triple digit CCV range (and actually got a third into that range since) is impressive in and of itself. I don't think most of the other small corpos would've been able to keep going after a disaster like that, including Phase Connect.

>>38328756
Only yabs they have are a PL yab and streaming with old literal WHO friends. Also weak game choices.

>>38329267
Yes. Her roommate has already proven herself to be a grifting liberal tranny lover so it's only a matter of time before that leaks to her vtuber persona.

>>38325070
>Meanwhile Phase's gen 2 are stillborns
I was going to think up a counterpoint to this but...
>Remi only appeals to pedophiles and knows it
>Shiina can't choose between flaunting the sex appeal of her model and pretending to be your wholesome grandma so she does both and succeeds at neither
>Panko is only good when she shitposts or during collabs
>Erina tends to stop speaking when she concentrates and during collabs, leaving a lot of dead air
>Rie is extremely unpalatable Australian woman t. Australian man
>Airi only has the sex appeal of her model going for her
You're right.

Airi could focus on the niche of retro gaming. Her recent OoT, Tactics Ogre, and Megaman X streams are pretty fun.
Videos or other prerecorded content would serve Erina better than streams given that she's a voice actress.
The rest of these girls will probably graduate within two years having hit a ceiling and achieved little.

>>38330266
Their only hope is for them to be different from the other companies and be more like Pippa where they do fringe stuff. Too bad that got stopped by fishman so they're left to do the same things as everyone else without excelling at it.

>>38329726
Rei says that she supports men pretending to be women to the extent that she attacks anyone who admits that biological women are not the same thing as men in dresses.

>>38328731
Seems like after the severe discord censorship backlash where Pippa broke down, it's exactly what Fishman is doing right now. Pippa is growing larger than the company at this point.

>>38327754
thats a cope, Yuko was 900 CCV yesterday in Minecraft WHILE gura was streaming

>>38324620

>>38326126
Management lacks focus and a direction and even if he had any the girls suck at following through

>>38330815
Pippa is retarded and doesn't understand how current real world business models work. It's all about selling out to outside investments and what they typically look for are investments with minimal risk/liability in a relatively new industry that has potential for growth. In current online entertainment "safe" means family friendly. Her association with here and KF is already a huge liability and she could have her cake and eat it too by just streaming to different audiences between her corpo and indie account and ride the growth to become at least a millionaire and then go indie and be permanently /here/ if she weren't retarded and self centered.

>>38330989
>lumi lower than gen2 despite outsubbing everyone
holy shit that's sad

>>38327052
They had a lot more than 1k iirc. Wasn't it 10-15k?

>>38331492
I've repeated this a trillion times during the discord censorship arc and I will repeat it again. There is NO more normie market for small corpos because it's a monopoly by Hololive/Nijisanji/Vshojo. Hololive has otaku and r*ddit, niji jhas casuals and China, and Vshojo is literally owned by Twitch. Where is the room for another small corpo to fit in? I'm tired of repeating this ad nauseam, but if a small corpo like Phase reduced itself into nothing but just another Holoclone #9835478, THEN WHY WATCH THEM WHEN YOU CAN WATCH HOLOLIVE ANYWAY?

That's why Pippa became the most successful talent in Phase, heck she literally saved the company by tapping into an unconventional audience no one marketed before, and giving it its own distinct identity. That's why during the discord leaks arc she broke down and implied graduation if it meant she would be isolated and lose her audience. And being larger than the company now, graduating or censoring her would be the height of retardation. Fishman isn't YAGOO who can afford to lose his top earners.

And Fishman full well understands now what a free Pippa was capable of (e.g. the FlaVR gigakino power move.)

>>38331928
>it's a monopoly
>proceeds to list three companies

>>38331928
I havent really watched Phase since their move to censor discord, anything good happen recently or is management still awful?

>>38331928
>There is NO more normie market for small corpos because it's a monopoly by Hololive/Nijisanji/Vshojo
Who's the brand ambassador for PC?

>>38332149
the guy dying from cancer and his millenial friends

>>38332020
Ok a triopoly.

>>38332149
Pippa.

>>38332112
Watch the FlaVR streams. Pippa literally made her own vtuber company
Also Lia just doesn't give a fuck about the new rules and still continues to make Internet Deep Dives.

>>38327862
VShojo's not even in the same tier as Nijisanji or Hololive, I dunno why people keep trying to push this narrative.

>>38332377
Vshojo has the twitch market cornered.

>>38332377
it's not equal but it's the biggest thing right after holo and niji and it's basically the biggest fully western company which also hold lots of influence over twitch and interacts with fleshtubers to a huge degree
you can't just act like they aren't big

>>38332473
>biggest thing right after holo and niji
That's VSPO, most of their talents are all in 3-9k CCV range and their event often reach 30k+ CCV

>>38332377
I always refer to the power houses as the Big Two rather than three, but Vshojo definitely has both the capital and influence to perhaps one day hold more leverage. The real difference is in how members are accrued for their roster. As was just proven recently again, their selection process isn’t actually a true audition, unlike with Holo/Niji. This makes the prospect of involving yourself with them become wholly dependent on orbiting or a solid connection, either of which can burn you if it goes south.

>>38331794
Lumi streams mainly on twitch with a ccv of 500

>>38332321
You are beyond retarded

>>38330897
No she wasn't lol. Stop pretending to be anons jew shill

>>38332772
Half of VShojo reaches 10k+ on Twitch and that's after acknowledging that Twitch has lower audience on average

vspo is 3rd but it's not an actual company.
And thusly the cuckcorp retains it's position. Someone sing pomf pomf in celebration.

>>38330382
That's lefty Aussie propaganda for you. I see why Rie can't get subs after all these months. They all entered their second week with around 9K and she's still only at 13.6K. I wanna look past that SJW shit if she can keep it out of streams. Pippa is pro tranny but can keep quiet.

>>38333041
kek coping is real >>38290148

>>38332321
but she couldn't do the CWC internet deep dive because management told her not to

they are a great small EN agency. why are holoniggers all of the sudden noticed them and are now trying to convince themselves this company is something it is not?

>>38324620
Why are Phasekeks always so uppity? No, I will not watch your trash

>>38334440
To be fair why would ANYONE touch the latter half of CWC's life.
He literally and unironically raped his dementia ridden mother

>>38334440
Lia is allegedly doing a deep dive on Mr Hands this week. There is more out there than ChrisChan, plus she already did the best parts of his story

>>38324620
roru
rumao

>>38327052
my eel wife hovers over 500 CCV nowadays

>>38324620
feel free to remake this thread when you learn to speak english

>>38334547
Fauna noticed Pippa member her a couple months ago and Filian will be collabing with Phase soon. I think Pippa noting who her viewers also watch go Fishman to make a move.

>>38326126
>>38324982
Phase Alias has got to be one of the biggest disappointments in small corpo history, only comparable to how Shiki's career fell off.
Rie turned off her potential audience by calling JK Rowling transphobic. Basically an Aia Amare situation. Which sucks, because her content was shaping up to be LA CREATIVIDAD something this place would have loved.
Shiina's oshi is Ina and tries to emulate her "comfy" style even though she is a way better entertainer than that. Also PL yab
Panko is a good chuuba, unfortunately ESL and with a low mental stamina. This was specially evident on her Pippa collab. Whenever she games, she can't zatsu at the same time to save her life.
Erina streams for SEA
Airi is formulaic, once you've seen 4 or 5 of her streams, you've seen them all. She is someone you will like a lot at the beginning but eventually end up dropping out of lack of interest. How good one of her streams is relies heavily on the game she chose. She has been choosing games no one else is playing lately, so that could help her grow to be honest.
Remi is a mesugaki but ESL and loud. Her appeal is very niche, and that would be fine, but none of the remibros are oil barons

t. Phase shill

>>38334547
no idea but it's annoying. /pcg/ is turning into a big dumpster fire which is saying something because it was awful already for different reasons, but numberniggering at this level is ridiculous.
we have 1 low 4view, 2 mid 3view, 8 3view, and 4 2views.

yet they come into the thread and trying to start number wars who gives a fuck. this isn't a race. there is no prize. this is small potatoes in the grand scheme. gura loses more viewers going on BRB than all 15 girls have combined.

just let the girls stream, do some yabs, sell some coffee, have some fun.

>>38334612
>>38334698
the point I'm trying to make is that she very much has to listen to what fishman says. also, I think the reason further CWC is off limits is pretty obvious and not related to how "extreme" the subject is.

>>38335076
anon, they all have to listen to a degree.
For example, Pipkin "CARTE BLANCHE" Pippa can't do FlaVR anymore.

>>38332944
Sounds like she has a unfaithful fanbase then

>>38335159
>can't do FlaVR anymore
They're still not banned and she still participates with them. And if they're banned that would be a stupid move, as this was an excellent viral marketing opportunity for Phase. Pippa's power move within the company.

>>38335380
Tenma made is very clear where the rest of the company stands when they started the harassing
Pippas word means nothing

>>38335458
Feels like Tenma is out to sabotage the company.

>>38335458
This is why Pippa keeps growing larger than Phase while the rest kept getting left behind. They don't sieze the opportunity while Pippa actively plays with her audience in and out of stream. If Fishman wants cold, hard empirical evidence that Pippa's model works, the numbers for the FlaVR stream even speak for themselves. Pippa fucking broke 2K+ CCV - almost an impossibility for a small corpo.

>>38335380
pippa alluded to the fact last week that she's not doing anymore flavor streams

there is nothing much for her to do tho because the meme had its run and it's over. sena is now barely 3view and will only keep dropping.

>>38335604
>Dramatrannies commenting on shit they have no idea about

>>38335604
Tenma is more important to Phase Connect than Pippa. Pippa herself would tell you this.

>>38335684
>more important
Because she orbits twitch normalfag streamers?

>>38335816
no, because she has the highest motor in the company, is the most trustworthy in the company, is universally the most respected in the company, and is the most well connected in the company.

>>38335633
What Pippa said is that for the FlaVR streamers to stop collab begging and that FlaVR belongs to everyone. They're not blacklisted.

>>38335979
>most well connected in the company
Ah yes, OTV. That's exactly the type of connections one would want.

>>38331928
The guy you replying to wasn't talking about attracting audiences, he was talking about attracting investors while allowing Pippa to go full /here/ niche content with an indie account.

>>38335979
people who say Tenma is the most important phase player
>Pippa
>Lia
>Yuri
>Airi
>Shiina
>Hime
>Remi
>Panko
>Uruka
>Erina
>Iori
>Nasa
>Michiru
>Fishman
>Muumi

people who say Pippa is the most important phase player
>Henry

>>38336193
I'm not the one shitting on Tenma, I watch her a lot as well

>>38336103
Investors are a scam, even Niji is realising that mistake.
And Phase still does a lot of sponsorships.

>>38335604
this is true. tenma is too mentally stable. she is ruining the menhera image of phase connect.

>>38336330
Phase has no meaningful sponsorships. ohhhh world of warships and gamersups how impressive

>>38335979
>most respected
don't confuse mutual disdain with respect.

>>38326126
>Phase shills
>shills
I found your problem. Also, /pcg/ unironically thought that they were pretty weak overall. Erina was the obvious strongest player, but she's cursed in a wave with a literal tranny and the wonton girl.

>>38336403
Does the AI stuff count as sponsor?

Individually, Phase's sponsors are all over the place.
>Pippa did the one sponsor stream 6 weeks ago and none sense.
>Lumi does low level sponsor shit all the time she is a mercenary that can be bought for a few bucks
>Yuri does gamersups and would probably do more, but she streams 3x a week
>Erina and Airi did prerec of WoW just like every other vtuber.

Then you have Tenma, Shiina, Lia and Uruka who I don't think have done sponsor stuff because they can't be bothered.

>>38336640
>Erina was the obvious strongest player
Who the fuck though Erina is worth shit?

>>38336745
She could have grabbed the ex-Kronies who emigrated out after Tempus

>>38328854
Shiina "wantons....boyfriend....oh shit"

Rie
I don't watch her but I think she's trans or is really deep into trans politics? Idk shes boring

>>38327862
>>38332451
>>38332473
>>38332772
>>38332859
>>38333554
Don't overlook the korean vtubers from Isegye Idol.

>>38336848
If anything that makes her greatest liability. Nobody wants migrating holoretards.

Phase's gentoo is fine. The biggest complaint then that still holds true now is none of them really fit if with the vibe of Phase Connect Gen1. They could all be from any small agency they are just vanilla (Remi is not, but the whole "I'm moldy rabbit jr!" gimmick is over the top)

Gen1 is still Phase Connect's identity.

>>38337102
What exactly is Phase Connect's identity?

>>38337148
Sad girl /here/tuber company

>>38337148
sad girl company

>>38337148
Sad girls who pander to /here/ and the farms.

Yabs. Not the vshojo type of yabs though.

>>38324620
Tell fishman to promote his talent better then.

Tell fishman to stop thinking about rushing out a Gen 3 with shitty premade models that other talent rejected years ago.

Tell fishman he needs to poach talent that can actually be beneficial to his company.

>>38324851
>billions
Please show me where cover is worth "billions".

>>38336948
Who?

>>38337484
Whatever happened to getting more invaders?

>>38337651
Biggest vtuber company on twitch.

>>38337484
you're gonna get Diet Dr Pippa aka Kirsche who has a low ccv + her fanbase is entirely made of pre-existing Pippa fans and you will LIKE IT

>>38337169
>>38337177
>>38337324
"Sad girl company" applies to literally every company, and the quote that spawned the meme wasn't even specifically referring to Phase Connect in the first place

>>38334846
>Shiina's oshi is Ina and tries to emulate her "comfy" style
That's a mistake on Shiina's part. I'm convinced almost nobody who watched anyone outside of hololive actually finds Ina entertaining or a good chuuba.

>>38337484
phase is apparently doing a collab with Fillian soon, so there's that.
Not that fish had anything to do with it, it sounds like may have Lia may have helped set it up

>>38337484
>>38337675
Fishman should poach Shondo as invader. She's also a gigantic schizo, she'd fit right in with the likes of Pippa.

>>38337827
I watch 6 agencies, Phase is by far the saddest. They have legit mentally ill basketcases

>>38337675
A lot of the ones who people want don't want to apply. Tsunderia is still alive so that removes anyone from there, Shondo will never go corpo, etc.

Kirsche is still a possibility but when fishman is trying to clamp down on the yab content it just won't work out.

Lia raided a 2view called Mino Mieko recently and she seemed perfect for Phase....but she has been scouted by Kiara and is pushing her to apply for hololive. To be fair, she'd be good as a holo, but still...

>>38337860
Fillian is a vshojo orbiter, she will never join Phase.

>>38337830
>>38337830
Shiina just wants to do something different, not a copy paste of wontons girl.

Which she actually did acknowledge for the yubicraft stream, and even put on the fruit farms safety bar that someone made during the debuts.

>>38324620
You posted the wrong picture

>>38337885
shondo would never join a company.

>>38338007
No no no anon don't say that, you'll make the phasetards cry

>>38337827
Correct, it was originally named for Tsunderia but ended up being far more appropriate for Phase.

Tsunderia did fall apart for a while, but seem to have stabilised. Some people thought for a while that fishman was going to buy them out but the problem is he doesn't want male talent, so it won't work out.

>>38337930
I didnt mean Fillian would be an Invader. What i meant is the Fillian collab will be great exposure for the agency.

>>38338007
>>38338048
Nobody in Phase hates Idol. Hell, one of Pippa's friends (Yuko Yurei) is in EN and there'll probably be collabs between them and Phase soon.

Any anger people have over Idol is related to the excessive advertising and push going on, and possible botting. They even got the other pink rabbit to react to their debuts live.

Fishman literally has a pot of gold with a lot of his talent. He's the one fucking it up by focusing more on expanding and clamping down on yabs rather than promoting what he has.

>>38337324
>>38337177
>>38337169
How is gentoo not a buch of sad girls? You have terminal neet, black company employee, girl after mental breakdown, introvert who visits a psychiatrist and aussie.

>>38337909
>goes on a two week menhera break mandated by the company
>comes back more menhera than ever before
I fucking love this sad girl. If only they'd let Lia do part 2 of CWC.

>>38338207
Meds made Lia even more menhera and it's glorious.

>>38338207
holy shit stop making shit up. she went on the break herself. it was not mandated

>>38338166
And I forgot kayfabe autist.

>>38338166
I never said Gen2 wasn't sad girls. They're all good hires, although the less said about Rie the better.

Just remember all the effort they put into Erina's model, she literally designed it herself. But Gen 3 is all going to be premade models with barely anything customised....good job fishman.

>>38338245
Either way, the break just made her content much better.

>>38338306
>I never said Gen2 wasn't sad girls
I asked what exactly PC identity is when >>38337102 started claiming gentoo somehow doesn't fit.

>>38338306
>But Gen 3 is all going to be premade models with barely anything customised
Why though?

>>38338588
Sunk cost fallacy.

>>38338306
>They're all good hires
Are they though? They just come off as generic vtubers. What do they have special that would get people to chose them over literally any other vtuber?

>>38338588
Because it took half year between gen2 got hired and their debut. Obviously nobody wants to do that again.

I expect it will go pretty much the same as gen1 did.

>>38338588
Fishman has a lot of models that haven't been used. But the girls who got hired had different ideas and so they ended up being junked other than Muumi who has Tenma's intended model.

See pic related, purple cat was supposed to be Pippa....and she was also offered Lia's model too because fishman really wanted to use that Lia model.

I don't think he will use purple cat though since it's pretty much known to be a Pippa reject.

>>38338720
Even if it took longer for Gen 2 he shouldn't rush 3 out until next year. Gen2 still need to grow.

The big issue isn't the talent though, look at their stream schedules. There's so much overlap going on that it's ridiculous and just hurting everyone involved.

Do you want the girls to get bigger numbers? Stop streaming over each other then.

>>38338854
The overlap is because some of them live in asia + most of them have sidejobs or go to school. Pippa is pretty much one of the only people who are legitimately fulltime streamers.

>>38338854
He's obviously not. Notice how the audition has no end date?

>Do you want the girls to get bigger numbers? Stop streaming over each other then.
Only some timeslots bring money. It's pointless to stream outside of NA or EU timeslot. You also have to take into account their daily life, so unless you want a company filled with Indians, you're fucked. The real problem is that they all take the time off on the weekends and you get lot of dead days.

>>38338648
Wemi appeals to pedophiles (me)

>>38327862
>Sony/Phase
You mean Sony/Prism, mate?

>>38339018
If they just spread their times out it'd work so much better and would help get other people to watch them.

Nobody's saying "you can't stream during Pippa hours" but at the same time if she wasn't streaming at that time that day, book that time in and see what happens.

>>38339202
>If they just spread their times out
And they do as much as reasonably possible. Airi streams once or twice a week in EU time. Erina and Remi stream in other timeslots too.

>it'd work so much better and would help get other people to watch them.
Not really. It's well known fact that moving your schedule around doesn't help much. In the end, attracting random view means much less than attracting stable and paying fanbase.

>>38326126
That IS the incline. It's over.

>>38332944
>how to tell everyone that Lumi uses bots to boost her ccv without saying it explicitly

>>38330989
Those are average to good numbers for a small corpo. Except for Michiru, goddamn.

>>38338255
Who?

>>38338854
Phase is literally a company without an actual "box push"( I think that's how numberniggers call it) They get the same numbers despite of there being overlap or not. The only ones that are somewhat correlated is Lia's numbers if she does "pippaesque" content. Overlap literally doesnt matter, even in /pcg/ you have at most 15 people that are unityfags that try to watch all the girls. Their audiences are just small islands.

>>38338854
>There's so much overlap going on
And when someone slightly changes their schedule to stop overlapping you have a full blown spergout from people saying they're unable to watch anymore. You can't have both prime time hours and no overlap.

>>38336948
vsingers are a different thing
and no it's not vsingers as a side gig like many vtubers, it's primarily vsingers
name one(1) thing they're known for except for their music

>>38341755
>name one(1) thing they're known for except for their music
Having bigger numbers than vshojo.

Phase does great numbers for a small agency.
Their 11th best girl has the same/better numbers as Tsunderia's #1

>>38336948
No one cares about Korea

>>38338245
cope
you would have to willfully ignorant to not see she was suspended.

they didn't announce it as an official suspension and instead did "2 week hiatus for unforeseen circumstances" because literally the next day they announced Gen3 auditions and they didn't want to have bad smoke surrounding the company.

>>38338854
>Do you want the girls to get bigger numbers? Stop streaming over each other then.
They can only do so much.

Some of the Gen2's were hired to fill dead hours, but they are being baby bitches and crying about it and now are creeping into American prime time hours.

Remi has literally cried on stream because of "fish forcing me to stream at certain times."

>>38343726
I know this is a troll thread, but this is not what she said at all. She said management told her to stream earlier, most likely because she's running on 4 hours of sleep time. She can't stream at US hours at all due to her timezone and school.

>>38343945
>She can't stream at US hours at all due to her timezone and school.
could've fooled me. I watch Pippa, and she is often raided into by Pippa.
How could it be?

>>38344115
Airi, Uruka, Erina, Shiina, Remi and Hime often get online around when Pippa ends in order to try and get the raid.
Uruka has always been in that timeslot, so I give a pass to her.

>>38337509
There is no proper valuation of it at that kind of price of course but their financials are in the same ball park as Anycolor so I assume if they did an IPO they would probably end up with a valuation close to theirs.

>>38324620
774 and vspo come first.

>>38344115
An Pippa's stream usually ends at what time in her timezone? Use your brain, retard.

>>38337484
fishman works at like 3 different companies, phase connect is such a minor thing for him, that when he takes part in events he isn't even listening 90% of the time.

>>38337885
Why would shondo ever want to join phase connect? What would she gain?

>>38343726
>Some of the Gen2's were hired to fill dead hours
Anon they stream over each other almost all the time. I think a couple of weeks ago, every single member was streaming at the same exact time, that is how bad it is.

>>38337885
>>38338019
shodno also is a twitch streamer so there wouldn't even be a point because she wouldn't even benefit from youtube raids.

>>38325876
The dismissive laugh holy shit

>>38336640
>but she's cursed in a wave with a literal tranny
Wait who

>>38338207
Menhara break is different from, shes going to fail fucking finals and needs a break to study, break. Shes as phycho as ever, just needed to work on school stuff

>>38336862
Who is wanton

>>38351239
Gee, I can't imagine why no one likes Niji.

>>38338854
>Box growth
I always find this logic retarded. Streamers are growing despite overlapping their other streamer friends, phase streamers just need to be better/play the algo if they want to grow.

>>38338144
>excessive advertising
I don’t think you’re wrong, I just think it’s ridiculous to get mad at this. The only reason other corpos don’t do what Idol did nearly as hard (Phase Connect has run ads) is that they don’t have enough money to (again, PC ran ads but not nearly as extensively and not in nearly as many places).
I think a lot of issues related to small corpos aren’t content or management issues, they’re just issues related to not having as much funding. Since Idol is from Israel, I’m starting to think maybe American VCs just don’t take weeb shit seriously enough.

Hillbilly hare Pippa gets around 1k what about the others? They’re all barely 2 view to low 3 view streamers.

>>38352070
They just don’t have investors. Idol started with a lot of investor money

>>38358404
>insert bankers joke here

>>38354356
Pippa is 1,000-1,500
Tenma is 400-600
Lumi is 500-700 on Twitch
Shiina is 200-350
Airi is 150-250
Uruka is 150-200
Lia is 80-400*
Yuri is 200-350 on Twitch
Panko is 90-150
Remi is 80-150
Hime is 60-100

*genshin debuff is real but she doesn't care

>>38359424
I think Lia has the balance all figured out. Pippa-style deep dives for when she wants to numberfag, Genshit filter streams if she just wants to schlick to Il Dottore

>>38362782
Lia is in no postion to be filtering.
Genshin absolutely tanks If you look at her playboard live stream from the last month, you can see exactly when she was streaming gacha.

It's why I don't believe Pippa's "filter streams" Pippa is a big genshin player, so if she REALLY wanted to filter, she would play that or Azur Lane.

>>38332377
Vshokeks are desperate, that's why.

>>38350860
Maybe dont base your entire streaming career on getting raided by someone who has more viewers than you and get a fucking personality so that people actually want to watch you
Goddamn you retarded phaseshills dont give a single fuck about vtubing do you?

>>38324620
Not even close, fishman.

>>38365990
You are replying to faggots that would rather watch and follow their own namefag dramafags that steal art and expect money for it than the company they shill for.

I don't understand why you would care about these small vtuber companies if you're a numberfag

>>38365990
sounds like a perfect description of shiina

Numbers show next to nothing. While this is a bad faith thread, I'll play along. Phase has a dedicated audience and so do the individual talents, with the addendum that some are severely underrated compared to their ability. Namely, Lumi and Shiina. Lumi is a superb streamer, she is genuinely excellent at what she does and her motivation, drive and work ethic are impeccable. This is topped by the absolute necessity - she's thoroughly entertaining. Shiina is a much, much better Ina for one simple reason - her energy. While people and Shiina herself name Ina for comparisons and she as an inspiration, Shiina is actually alive. Her sense of humor and streaming style is much more active, energetic and emotional than Ina's ever was. I believe it is impossible to describe the appeal of a chuuba through words, so you'll just need to check them out yourself. Bottom line here is that Lumi and Shiina are excellent and criminally underrated.

Panko and Remi are "raw" chuubas with next to no prior experience, and they have a lot to learn but they are learning and putting in the effort. Remilia for instance debuted while being ravaged by covid and kept streaming through the illness, fatigue and sleeplessness for months. This girl is secretly made of raw iron and is highly motivated and streams while going to school and despite numerous issues like those I mentioned. Panko is a chuuba who is learning the ropes, but she's charming and has that little sister/gremlin feel rather than being lewd or GFE like Remi, and I have high hopes for her. Both of them are green like I mentioned, but there's a lot of room for growth here and the underlying structures for success are already there.

Yuri is great and has been great for a while, but the cat is plagued by poor health. This is her Achilles heel. Pippa is memed here as some sort of explicitly /here/ chuuba or a fruit chuuba, when that isn't even a tiny fraction of why she's successful and entertaining. People who check her out expecting some le edgy bullshit stick around when they see that she's actually a very sweet, loyal girl with more talent for entertainment than most big corpo chuubas. Tenma has her own style, whole culture and feel others would explain better than me but there's a reason people like her and it's precisely that.

I could go on and on but the basic point is simple - Phase Connect is severely underrated as a whole, AS A WHOLE, and it's not just about Pippa or her "carrying the company." Both Gen 1, Invaders and Gen 2 are filled to the brim with talent and skill. And you're missing out on all of that, because of strict adherence to BRAND rather than seeking quality or just being curious.

>>38368317
Both Lumi and Shiina have the potential to rival, or even surpass, Pippa were it not for this fact: they're both heavily censored and limited by their main mod. This mod was also the same faggot who masterminded the discord censorship arc that got Pippa isolated from the company resulting in her breakdown.
But at least Lia doesn't have that faggot as her mod, doesn't care about the new policies, and now has her own brand of menhera/yab to match that of Pippa herself, and her increasing numbers during her Deep Dives show that.

>>38331492
Oh wannabe manger is here as well

>>38324620
no

>>38335380
Oh the flavr leeches are here too

>>38324620
>https://files.catbox.moe/23ybzo.mp4

>>38333041
yes she was retard

>>38351296
Rie

>>38351351
Shiina

>>38368317
Yuri is by definition the worst talent in Phase Connect because she never streams. She has already squandered her new model ccv buff by streaming to less than 200 twitch. She is as unreliable as it gets and has no potential

>>38369034
Shiina is too old. She is fine, but she has no potential. There are girls in the company a decade younger than her that are growing and have shown big improvement.

>>38370237
Yuri squandered her chance when she refused to listen to her audience and instead jumped on the vshojofication bandwagon that everyone on Twitch is following.

>>38368317
this is a weird as fuck shill post that reads like it was written by yuri's mod, so it probably was.
uniroincally she would be better served retiring from streaming but moved into a management/relations role within the company. she is a vtweeter and has gotten other girls thru tough sad girl times. she could be muumi jr

>>38370717
>Yuri
>Management
Lmao. Yuri is one of the most fucked up in the company

>>38370939
she's not that fucked if she's who some of the other girls have leaned on when they have been in crisis.

>>38344183
Oh look. The raid schizo is here too

>>38366418
Shiina schizo what are you doing outside pcg?

>>38371419
Phase schizos are notorious containment breakers, mainly because Pippa encourages them

>>38324620
They're not even big enough to be in the same discussion as VShojo

If I'm Phase Connect, these are the 5 talents that stick out that I build around:
>1.Pippa
no explanation needed
>2. Lumi
She is the total package vtuber. The only thing that will stop her is either getting accepted to a big corpo -or- getting an actual job with her degree that is too good to pass up.
>3. Panko
She is green but oozes potential and has shown improvement slowly but surely. She provides great contrast compared to other girls in the company. She has mainstream safe appeal if the company were to really seriously take off. She has bust potential tho, too.
>4. Tenma
Well connected and hardest worker by far. She is not the most talented or most entertaining by a long shot, but she has the heart and the will to succeed. She may have a limited ceiling given her ESL tho
>5. Lia
After a rocky start, she has shown tremendous growth as a personality and a streamer since her model change. She is the youngest girl in the company and is full of potential. The important thing is she has shown actual improvement. She will only get better with time/maturity if she sticks with it. I would have her 3rd, but I have questions about her commitment. Given that she has gotten better in terms of streaming consistency (still needs to improve more, but she has gotten better) I would still take the risk that gaining maturity and experience will help her as she goes along.

HM to Shiina. She is Lumi but better, but as the other anon above said, her age works against her for me. Panko and Lia are significantly younger than her and they have potential that is worth investing in. Shiina is far ahead of Panko & Lia, as she should be she was a seasoned vtuber with life experience. By the time, by chance, Phase takes off in 2-3 years, Shiina will have aged out completely.

>>38371546
Pippa is, she is the anti-Nyanners and this board's darling

>>38324620
Fishman is too scared to hire talents that would be more popular than Pippa

>>38325876
>Finana doesn't know what PC is
>Gura doesn't know what Diamond City Lights is
kek

>>38375291
>the biggest names in the industry don't know who a minnow agency is
shocker

>>38372298
Lumi and Lia are the same. You'd have to be an avid watcher to know their differences

My virgin wife Airi

>>38324620
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
not while 774inc exist

Who would be good choices for Invaders and Phase3?

>>38343726
>Remi has literally cried on stream because of "fish forcing me to stream at certain times."
Remi streams like 12 times a week and has IRL stuff to do including online school. She was probably on no sleep and exhausted when she broke down. I guess it wasn't her choice to stream in N.A. hours. If so, that sucks for her because Panko and Erina stream when it's convenient for them.

>>38359424
How many views does the Kronii knockoff get?

>>38359424
Erina???

>>38324620
>Phase connect beeg
>Like do the talents mid to high 4views like Holosanji?
>N-no but we win the baby cup against small corpos
>How do you compare to VSPO or VOMS?
>T-they’re bigger, but Phrase connect still beeg, we can beat Tsunderia at least
>Does anyone outside of Pippa can even compete against idols EN?
>W-well no, but we’re still BEEG

>>38384848
Erina has more subs than one of IDOL-ENs girls.

>>38372298
>her age works against her
Hags make for some of the best vtubers

>>38384927
And how long did it take for Erina to get those subs compared to how long it took Juna to get those subs? Erina is gonna get surpassed in a week.

>>38334846
Why are you so mentally ill?>>38334846
>Rie turned off her potential audience by calling JK Rowling transphobic.
Like 90% of Vtubers think that why is so special in this case?

>>38336103
>Pippa to go full /here/ niche content
Pippa is way more Tumbrl than 4chan