/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>38310409
Worked wonders for Fubuki, so why are holokeks complaining?

>>38310409
>>be VShojo
>>hold "auditions"
>>how much the applicant has sucked our collective cocks in the past is a factor in the choice
>>pick inner circle friend
Fixed it for you OP

>>38310530
>having friends is bad
Just because no one wants to be friends with you doesn't mean everyone else can't have friends.

>>38310582
Project any harder and you'll have to change your name to IMax nigger. When running a business you need to look beyond the circle of friends. While I have no idea who actually applied im sure there were more talented streamers than her in the pool to choose from that werent sucking Zens tranny cock on the side

>>38310737
This "business" was always, from the very beginning, more of a co-operative venture. They've never brought in anyone who wasn't already their friend, and all the founders were friends. I mean think about it: if this were a business run PURELY for profit, Syd would have been fired for not streaming (as a vtuber anyway) a long time ago. But it's not, so she hasn't.

Why complain about this? VShitters were hawking their rratpapers thread to thread that Delutaya was the new member all week long this week and lost. Let their dumpster fire keep burning.

I can't believe a company didn't invest untold sums of money into turning random 2 views into massive Vtubers, when there are incredibly talented and successful people they could already pick from. Truly unfair.

Why even hold auditions when they just picked one of their friends? They could've saved themselves some time and just signed her right away.

>>38310530
Snuffy hands typed this post

>>38310582
Hiring mostly friends is a bad business decision.
Sooner or later they'll want to quit.
If you don't want to become a solo company you'll have to fill the vacant spot with someone else?
Who's it gonna be, another friend?
Is it a genuine friend or a clout chaser waiting for their opportunity?
What happens if someone fucks up?
Can you fire them without creating massive amounts of unnecessary drama?
If you run out of viable friends, will you be able to actually hire from the outside?
Hiring friends breeds complacency in the hiring process, you hire someone you already know and already like.
What the fuck are you going to do once it's not an option anymore and you need to hire someone from a pool of people you don't already know?
You have no ability/experience screening them because you literally didn't have a screening process more complex that building a 5th grader dodgeball team during P.E..
The first few picks are going to be a crapshoot.
With some luck you'll get tolerable members.
If things go bad, they'll quit soon after joining or will have to be let go, tarnishing your brand, your reputation, trust in your decisions and you'll end up with no further applicants because you have proven that your company is a dead end.

>tl;dr: Hiring friends to start a company = good idea, hiring friends to sustain a company = bad idea.

>>38312503
I mean, not really. Why would they want to quit? VShojo is a classic talent agency (not an Asian-style one) where the talents are clients, not employees. They lose absolutely nothing by being in it, the only reason any of them would leave is if they stopped being friends.

>>38312503
Uhm but vshojo is not a company

>>38312717
Nigga, I have no idea about VShojo or their machinations.
It sure as fuck is a brand though, or there wouldn't be exclusivity.
I only read the post about "hiring friends good" and went autistic.

>>38312656
>clients
Do they pay VShojo or something?

>>38312960
Indirectly. The agency makes merch for them which they then pimp, and the agency takes like three quarters of their merch revenue (if I remember correctly).

the problem is that they've had open auditions for more than a year and the best they've done to follow up on that is a dox controversy, two non-audition poachings and finally someone who was basically joined at the hip anyway
they didnt even let snuffy in early on

>>38312380
There's probably more members coming though, maybe those other ones might be new people

This is how the auditions work from what i seen in >>38309689

I wouldn’t want a random indie near my agency. You could have someone more controversial then pippa

>>38313192
Is it known if VShojo demands exclusive rights to the avatars likeness when it comes to merch or are the talents themselves also able to create merch independently?
Wanting exclusive rights to THE thing that sells the merch (the avatar) and only paying the talent 25% sounds to me like the talents are getting scammed.

>>38310737
When running a business you're trying to make money you absolute mouth-breathing retard, do you think some random 1 view would be a better pick for a company driven by merch sales than the 4 digit CCV established streamer who's already worked with the company many times in the past?

>>38313599
They don't own any of the avatars, the girls can do what they like with them.

>>38313627
And what do you do once there no more 4 digit CCV established streamer who's already worked with the company many times in the past be it falling out or bad blood

>>38312503
meanwhile in the real world
vshojo, nepotism-central: 0 graduations
nijisanji and hololive, honorable businesses folded a thousand times: more graduations than you can count

>>38313723
Uh, nothing? Infinite growth is a meme.

>>38313801
And how do only getting 4 digit CCV established streamer help it

>>38313723
They've only signed 2 new EN members after 2 years of being in business, they're not gonna run out of established indies to hire anytime soon
In fact as time goes on their pool of 4view orbiters has only expanded

>>38313681
I didn't mean ownership but the exclusive right to use them in certain contexts and whether or not the talents are allowed to compete in those contexts.

Is it:
>VShojo can use avatar to create and peddle merch AND talent can use avatar to create and peddle merch independently
or
>VShojo can use avatar to create and peddle merch BUT talent can not use avatar to create and peddle merch independently
or is it
>Talent requests VShojo to create a bunch of merch, VShoho creates it, talent shills it

We need someone to join them to get a copy of their contracts.
Get to it.
Become the vtrubing slut you always wanted to be, Anon.

>>38313982
You need to be known already and in with Vshojo before you even can do it

>>38313982
It's the first one, some members sell their own merch independently of vshojo's

>>38313982
I don't think anyone knows the answer to that

People. please don't forget that hiring literal whos gave us Subaru and Nene.
When hiring entertainers the first things you should be looking for are motivation and enthusiasm.
Even if it ends up ultrascuffed it will be enthusiastic ultrascuff providing maximum cringetertainment.

>>38314275
But with Vshojo you need to be already known about and in with Vshojo before you can join

>>38314275
>People. please don't forget that hiring literal whos gave us Subaru and Nene.
Towa...

>>38314275
This and don't forget Korone is still the biggest nepotism hire Cover's ever pulled.

>>38313982
It's the first one, they can both independently release merch. Vshojo only profits from their own merch.

>>38315374
Wasn't she in another company first? That's barely a neoptism hire.

I love the 2view seethe in threads like this

>>38310582
Then dont have a audition where you dox everyone who applied

>>38312380
"Hype", unironically.
>Get more people talking about Vshoujo on Twitter, Discord, etc.
>Way more eyes on your announcement then usual if you just dropped a line saying "This person who's practically a Vshoujo member already is now a real member, peace"
>Can pretend you're listening to/interacting with your community
Etc.

>>38315921
>dox everyone who applied
Wasn't it one person? Kinda blowing it way out of proportion considering they had thousands of applicants most likely.

>>38316547
Only one person's details got leaked, but they sold the personal info of everyone who was stupid enough to apply.

>>38310409
if you're just going to hire your friends why even bother with that whole audition bullshit and doxxing all your applications that you have no intentions of entertaining in the first place

>>38310737
It's not a business for the talents, it's a business for their salesmen.

>>38310409
The problem is the auditions are a sham. No one would be batting an eye if they just said "ok we're gonna get our friends in". But instead they go for this fake spectacle to fool retards into thinking there's ever a question of who gets in.

What sucks is twitter's going: "congrats haruka, but hey, vshojo, try picking someone new". It's either that or just shitting on her. I want to protect her.

>>38312503
unironically, this is actually true, vshojo are going to end up pretty badly at some point, it will be a good show at least.

>>38319841
>Won't someone think of the super popular entertainer?

>>38317709
>source:

>>38310409
its actually funny that people expect something fair from vwhores, menhera pink cat got in, do you think she actually did any audition?, that "company" works only under nepotism.

>>38320667
>"company"
Kson tried to tell people not to think of Vshojo like a typical corpo but everyone ignored the context of what she was saying.

>>38310409
Can we get Snuffy then?

>>38310530
>>38310409
Snuffy and Anny both admitted they were rejected though. And Snuffy would've been a far more obvious pick than Haruka considering how close and how long she's been with them and been around. If Haruka getting in meant them not getting in then how is that really nepotism?

Isn't this green haired bitch the one that was being super cringe to Pomu in that horrible collab the tranny set up? If Nijisanji was already staying away from Vshojo because of Kson this just double taps it. Hololive is already staying away from them and starting to collab with Nijisanji. Where the fuck is Vshojo going to try to leech off from now?

>>38312503
It's ok when the JPs do it though

>Be friends with the people holding applications for a job
>Get the job
Wow, this seems an awful lot like
nepotism
noun
nep·o·tism ˈne-pə-ˌti-zəm
: favoritism (as in appointment to a job) based on kinship

>>38324012
when you have to apply, it's called networking

>>38323602
>Vshojo going to try to leech off from now?
They will leech by shitting on Cover and Anycolor and stirring drama. Should be obvious by now. Vei did it. Kson did it. Zen did it.

>>38310409
What's the point in even having "auditions" if the only criteria for joining is being sponsored by an existing member? I mean, it's not really a problem for it to basically be a club for this specific extended friendgroup, but I think it's weird to pretend that you have any chance of getting in if you aren't already connected with the members. It's a club, that's fine, but don't piss on our legs and tell us it's rain by pretending you're recruiting from the nobodies.

>>38324993
>our
Seething 1 view lmao

>>38310409
You forgot the most important thing for anyone in VShojo
>Immediately sluts her up

>>38313723
>And what do you do once there no more 4 digit CCV established streamer who's already worked with the company many times in the past be it falling out or bad blood
You stop hiring people and focus on making what you already have better, retard. It's not hard to understand. Why do you think Niji is as shit as it is? Because they keep hiring people instead of making their existing pool better

>>38323602
someone hasn’t seen the recent holoshojo and nijishojo collabs and it shows

They just had auditions to get their friends in, and used the auditioners to choose which ones get in first. That way they don't have to deal with internal drama over pickings.

>>38323871
It is, because there wasn't any fake audition for Okayu and Korone, they were just introduced by Fubuki and Mio outside of auditioning. Official auditions aren't just for show with other applicants unknowingly having a zero percent chance to actually get picked, as evidenced by practically every audition Hololive did, retardchama.
You could probably point at Sana, but there are still 4 other members in Council who got in by auditioning.

>>38311626
Those were Holo tourists. Delta was clearly not getting in after she got into a fight with Nazuna.

>>38310527
Fubuki has no equal.

>>38323602
>implying vshojo needs to leech from anyone

>>38322514
stop making sense bro, idolfags will get mad

>>38310527
>>38313791
>>38315374
>WHAT ABOUT !

>>38322514
>no rebuttals
So Holokeks just want to be mad and even more retarded than usual

>>38310409
If the only people who had a chance to win were members of your clique, why hold auditions? It only gives hopes to people who never had a chance and creates animosity.

>>38310527
Holofags don't care beyond shitposting, it's the Sindies who thought they had a chance that are actually seething.

>>38310582
Yeah, because in streaming, friendship is genuine and not based on 2 creators of simmilar size combining their audience to reach greater profits. I'm sure the vshojo girls would love to hang out with a 1view literal who so long as she has great personality.

>>38328220
>Holofags don't care beyond shitposting
Kek, they instantly seethe every time something bad doesn't happen to other Vtubers, especially Vshojo

>>38328510
>t. shitposting holofag

If you want a big example of nepotism entertainment;
AEW (Alll Friends Wrestling)

>>38328525
>holofag
Go fuck yourself

>>38328609
Ah, you're only of the EN-only retards. I forgot about you. Yeah, it makes sense that you would be a seething holofag.

>>38328898
>holofag
retardo maximo

>>38329194
>t. retarded holofag

>>38322514
Snuffy will never join vshojo as long as the girls get to veto new members.

>>38312503
>Can you fire them without creating massive amounts of unnecessary drama?
But that's literally twitch meta. They WANT the drama.

>>38330142
>as long as the girls get to veto new members
Why? I thought she was on good terms with all of them. Only one I would've thought was blacklisted was Shylily considering what Veibae thought of her.

>>38312380
My rrat is they opened auditons because they wanted Haruka to join but without asking her directly and putting pressuer on her to agree. By opening auditions they give her the choice to say yes without being asked by submitting an application and if she doesn't they still have a backup plan of all the other applicants.
Expect any future vshojo auditions to go the same way. Don't apply unless you're already a regular orbiter with them.

>>38330827
Lily and Vei don't have beef anymore. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that the big indies (mainly Twitch indies) are all friends with one another save for a few key cases (cough cough Saruei). See: BounceSMP, has a lot of Vtubers and fleshies interacting.

>>38310409
meese chads stay winning

>>38331326
>muh whores
Always funny when they say it

>>38312503
>Is it a genuine friend or a clout chaser waiting for their opportunity?
Joining only really gives you the company's protections
>What happens if someone fucks up?
Don't do what Cover does, clearly
>Can you fire them without creating massive amounts of unnecessary drama?
They' never had to fire anyone
>If you run out of viable friends, will you be able to actually hire from the outside?
If you get big enough like Hololive, apparently yes. You'll even get an army to bat for you and shit on the opposition without thinking

>vshojo thread
>Devolves into hololive seethe
A classic

>>38332054
What seethe?

>>38310409
none of those are the problem, they held public auditions even though they clearly already had a winner, they practically shit on the effort of more than a thousand people, thats just a shit move from every single of the V members.

>>38334494
Nah, I'm pretty sure that, since it's a friends group, all of them have veto power, and candidates got mean girls'd.

I find it funny nobody on this board outside of three generals care about smaller Vtubers unless it makes Vshojo look bad

>>38334797
I hate 2views more than I hate vshojo so I'd say this whole thing is good news

>>38334797
/wvt/ is fucking cancer, and some of the only redeemable ones are the ones talked about in /lig/.

I think after the auditions drama they just decided to stay as invite only club, there was no maliciousness or anything.

>>38310409
ogey

>>38337350
That's the dumbest take yet.

>>38337350
this is the obvious answer but vshojo fans refuse to admit it, as if by ''coincidence'' all the new members happen to be friends with vshojo but worked hard in the auditions defeating every single indie in their way

>>38310409
so whens the maximum coomerbait model releasing?

>>38310409
I just think it's hilarious they made her get her cleavage out to join vshojo.

>>38337350
that or they weren't really convinced. Had situations where I hired none of my applicants to a position

bump

>>38310527
t. colonized fandead who worships his holy western whore masters

>>38342902
Um no chud its final boss mode its empowering an shit

>>38310409
>Vtweeters malding
>Roasties will never be real vtubers
Funniest news regarding Vshojo. Back to not giving a shit about them or their whore idols.

>>38310409
Imagine almost getting doxed and swatted to apply for a vtuber company and then they hire literally only friends. Funniest and the dumbest shit ever, can we get rid of VShojo now? We all agree they're incompetent right?

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change my mind.

>>38351669
that is kinda funny. The whole doxx thing couldve been avoided if they just DMd the 3 people they would actually consider hiring.

>>38352382
BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!

>>38310530
SPBP

>>38320667
Nyan was a founding member you retard.

>>38323602
Mouse is playing with Calli at this very moment.

discount fauna

>>38310409
Hire Snuffy

>>38358187
newfag

>>38331326
this but unironically

>>38310527
>why are holokeks complaining?
https://twitter.com/Wataaamage/status/1599207333741359104

>>38379039
The person who made an Nijifag mad
https://twitter.com/Wataaamage/status/1508936567498420225
https://twitter.com/Wataaamage/status/1508936631348256779

>>38379039
https://twitter.com/Wataaamage/status/1599489993096822784

>>38365259
>Discount of a Vtuber who premiered after Haruka
Even Soimilk's been around longer than Fauna