/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>38259928
I don't think you can use that image anymore after today

>>38259928
Not a good timing chadgora poster anon!

>>38259928
um...

>>38259928
Wrong image.

>>38259928
literally fondled by a male

>>38259928

>>38261072
>alone
dyrbi?

>>38259928
You should use Korone instead

>>38259928
Pekora DESPERATELY wants children, every convo she's had regarding why she got a monkey spells this clearly.
If you value pekora's health,safety, sanity, or soul you should know its time to let her go and do what she was genetically designed to do

>>38261072
And?

>>38261115
So she's basically married with a kid at this point.

>>38259928
Sure doesn't look like you are.

>>38261810
https://files.catbox.moe/dh439f.webm
Lmao

>>38263415
Her neck got fucking snapped WHAT THE FUCK SHES DEAD

>>38259928
bad timing OP

>>38261072
>goes to her family home every day to stream
That's not really moving out. Sounds really inconvenient

>>38260865
Why not? Exactly what you were all wishing for.

>>38261810
why did cover allow this?

>>38263615
They tried their best and managed to postpone this shit for over a year.
Pekora kept crying though, and they finally gave up when she requested it for her 2M.

>>38263615
they didn't, then Pekora went full menhera
Pekora asked again for her 2M wish...they submitted
Yagoo tried to save her...

>>38263615
Idolculture. This is winning, soon cover will be a household name after doing this a lot more.

>>38261072
>living alone
>30 seconds walk from her parents house

>>38263615
Because this is what real idols do. Idol variety tv shows.
Your girls are idols now, congrats, the unicorns got what they wanted.

>>38259928
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>38263461
It's a weird movement but he did it for everyone

>>38259928
Holy kek.

>>38261108
>do what she was genetically designed to do
live "alone" in an apartment reeking of monkey piss?

>>38259928
why the fuck do you guys keep embarrassing yourselves like this?

Idol culture was a mistake.

>>38263928
>You are your Mothers Mistake

>>38263953
I did not know that it affected you so much that you can barely cope at being laughed at.

>>38263773
>Because this is what real idols do.
Since fucking when? Idols aren't allowed to be whores.

>>38259928
Her parachute coach was putting his dick in Pekora while jumping

>>38264031
Never watched Idol variety tv shows anon? They do this, and no, your unicorn definition of "Idol" doesn't apply.

>>38264031
Since you never figured out what idols are and just parroted nonsense on 4chan without thinking.

>>38264017
Is that a diss?
Its too weak just like how your mother feels about you LOL!

>>38264079
idols also have boyfriend behind their fans back so all chuubas also do that? oh but that's not very "unicorn" friendly isn' it?

>>38264031
>Since fucking when?
Why are ignorant faggots allowed to post in /vt/? Literally go to /jp/ for actual idols, and yes they interact with men.

>>38264031
Dumb newfag

>>38264114
No, it's just genuine concern. My reaction to your green text was 'okay?' but clearly you're having a mental breakdown.

We kept telling anons that vtubers aren't idols and it's not idol culture. Ignorant idiots kept arguing and sending the wrong message. Now they're upset but can't see how they were wrong. Typical.

>>38264079
Show me where in Love Live shit like that happens, I'll wait.

>>38264476
I said your unicorn definition doesn't apply.
Love Live doesn't apply.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3zIUQS89nA this is what real idols are like, enjoy it.

>>38264585
>i am foing to decide what is and isn't idol culture
Go eat a dick, westcuck.

>>38264688
>Posts the very definition of idol culture in Japan
>"N-no, that isn't idol culture because I SAID SO!!
Come up with new cope please, your copium tank is running out.

>>38264688
>Video of Japanese idols
>NOT IDOL CULTURE ! ! !
Cope harder kek

Wait so the boyfriend stuff is just made up?
I thought Anons always tell the truth and the Holos always lie?
I don't know who to believe anymore

>>38264585
Just because 3d idols are garbage doesn't mean vtubers need to suck too.

>>38264960
Yagoo wanted an idol company and Pekora's the closest to it right now with this.
Anon's on this very board were constantly touting that the girls are idols and when one finally does an idol activity it's considered "garbage" like 3d idols.
I don't know what to tell you anymore anon.

>>38264585
That one in the light blue dress though

>>38265103
You have to understand anon, in this site the only knowledge of idols comes from im@s and Love Live

>>38264960
Or yoi could just accept that you have no idea of what are you talking about

>>38264960
Shouldn't have said idol culture then but now all the fake idol fans are mysteriously quiet.

>>38264031
Why newfag this retarded nowadays, this is exactly how akb48 idol group does variety of show.

>>38264079
Vtuber idols are better than those whores. This shit is beneath our anime girls.

I don't really blame the anons here for not knowing what idol culture is. Some people in JP who speak Japanese and live in Japan don't know what idol culture is either.
But simply speaking,
>Idol culture is not the same as unicorn culture

>>38265472
No wonder they retarded. They only watch idol from anime, a bunch of retard kek.

>>38265871
Clearly not if Pekora, one of the biggest icons that unicorns rallied behind, went and did this.

new thread
>>38265798
>>38265798
>>38265798

>>38265880
I mean, chasing exposure and clout is just business, the same as what any western personality does, it's not really a special culture.

>>38265472
>>38265888
It's not even anime. Don't let them have that refuge of excuses either. This is just straight up porn addict culture.

>People don't know what idols actually do
>People freaking out over them doing idol stuff
>Unicorns or people pretending they don't know that this is just a normal thing even for normal idols unicorns over there
>None of the japs care
Funniest shit I have seen in awhile from /vt/ because of how fucking stupid it is and I hope everyone is just pretending well I laugh at it.

>>38266094
You're right, they even do this is idol animes actually.

>>38266095
No one knows what idols do because they just do whatever and have no real identity.

>>38264031
Newfriendchama....

>>38266141
People know what idols do, what do you even mean by pretending this? There is literally threads on /jp/ about this and thread just for idols on variety shows. Are you pretending?

>>38266141
https://youtu.be/B0R9S2Na0pM
Japan knows what idols do.
Sane anons know what idols do.
Unicorns and "Idol"-fags did NOT know what idols did, until now.
Thanks Pekora.

>>38266141
They do have an identity, otherwise there would be no difference between normal celebrities and idols. Why state this as if you know what you're talking about anon?

>>38266095
But it was so predictable and they were warned. They thought they were so smart back then and can't admit they were wrong now. This isn't even a /vt/ problem because it happens so much. Anons get warned by people that understand things and have more experience. But 4chan is only as smart as the dumbest cuck that parrots whatever is convenient. It's only funny until you realize how futile it is.

>>38266318
I should have said /qa/ shitposts don't reply

>>38266087
Some Japanese use the phrase アイドル文化, which suggests that outsiders see idol fanbases as a culture of some sort.
In anime media like visual novels, etc., the idol otaku is always eccentric and "different," which is an exaggeration of the idol fan stereotype.
But the fact the stereotype exists suggests outside people see it as a special culture.

>>38266238
>>38266282
>>38266289
They just act like normal celebrities, it's not anything special or different.

>>38259928
winning at being cucks

>>38266238
Idols used to be banned on /jp/ because of this and because /jp/ was all about no 3dpd on the board. Then the rules were changed when outsiders were asked what the /jp/ rules should be. Many people left /jp/ at the time. The board posts dropped to about 15% of what it was before, that continued for a few years. Modern /jp/ is not the same crowd that it used to be.

Now I'm only saying this because /vt/ plays with fire and it could happen that everything changes. In 10 years it could be that this board is about virtual porn stars or fleshtubers. You refer to /jp/ but it's a cautionary tale about what happens if you let dumb people talk a lot and give the wrong impression.

>>38264885
>Wait so the boyfriend stuff is just made up?
>Pekora's been living away from parents for a year
>streaming setup still at parents' house

Well anon, I don't even know. Also lol, since it's for a year, doesn't that also include last Christmas' cold chicken?

I don't get it. If collabing with a male was apparently fine all along, why did this board have a meltdown over tempus collabs?

>>38266095
even after all that, anon still don't know what idol is

I thought it's widely accepted that she's involved with a big Japanese youtuber? Or are we acting dumb like with the rushia stuff?

>>38263509
Why? She gets to enjoy all the benefits of living away from her parents AND the benefits of being able to keep getting food and care from them.

>>38266659
>acting

>>38266659
If you mean the Jun rrat it always seemed like trolling peko's fans on his side to me, but I didn't look into it too much.

>>38266659
She also got raped by Miko but people here act as if it's just a meme.

>>38266622
Because they leech off the girls income and makes an excuse for cover to not support them via idol projects by turning the branch into twitch lite. Exactly as it is at the moment and how NijiEn will remain. No one has a problem now that tempus has retreated a bit. They exist but aren’t being push at you.

>>38266782
Not gonna work anon

>>38266726
Same but they did take long breaks at the same time this year and there were other suspicious stuff.

>>38266436
It should also be noted that the idol fan is the quintessential otaku and thought of in Japan as synonymous with serial killer or child kidnapper/abuser. There is a very negative view of these extreme fans and it is why big security measures are taken. In maid cafes the staff leave through another exit in non-descriptive clothes, meanwhile customers are delayed at the register so there is no way to orchestrate a "chance meeting" with the maids. The same is true for idols and underground idols. Security is very tight because of these stereotypes and long-term cultural disdain for idol fans. Shows like the ones that are discussed have rehabilitated and buffered the idol industry against relying on only losers. When people here are talking about idol culture they are actually invoking sentiments similar to that negative serial killer stereotype that everyone wants to forget.

>>38266462
>They just act like normal celebrities, it's not anything special or different.
An actor, singer or an A-lister seiyuu will never do these types of embarassing show, idols do.
Idols a lot of things that are simply seen as too embarassing, too dangerous or simply a waste of time for other celebrities. Thinking that other celebrities would do the shit that idols is laughable. Mind you, this is also one of the reasons why idols got popular

>>38266806
How could they be leeching their income? The girls get paid by cover and SC donations. If their income dropped it's because people stopped donating or at least are donating less, which is the viewers choice

>>38266806
This board would call any collab between the 2 as "pushed down their throats" no matter what though

>>38266827
Sadly, Migo's cock worked far too well that night...

>>38266867
>A-lister seiyuu will never do these types of embarassing show
>Gendou Ikari was narrating the whole thing
Newfag

>>38267246
>narrating
Anon...

>>38266659
Sure anon she is definitely involved with the most vocal vtuber hater, the one that shows his actual wife on his streams.

>>38267311
Retard...

>>38267246
>Performing on stage and getting humiliated is the same as narrating what's happening
Your copium tank needs more gas.

>>38267373
Did you seriously not think about the difference between narrating a show and being humiliated? Also I didn't say they don't participate in TV programs, they just have no reasons to humiliate themselves like this when their career is actually long-lasting unlike an idol's career

>>38267376
No need to make excuses anon, you outed yourself as a poser

>>38261072
This makes it more sus if anything.

>>38261072
Roberu...

All the bargaining and coping like it's going to change anything if you find the answer between the gaps. You can't even speak Japanese and have no impact nor do you understand hints and references that made this all obvious from the start.

It will happen again.

>>38267376
Heh I guess you haven't see the famous and respected Gendo shaving his neard having an orgasm while shilling razor blades. https://youtu.be/xli293P8fug
and all with a retaded smile on his face

>>38267581
I haven't, but I got an audible kek out of it.
So, for the other anon, when is the actual seiyuu going to do this in a 3d performance?

>>38264960
holy mother of cope

>>38264031
idols can collab with men in professional setting, they just can't date(collab with tempus).

>>38264960
Cope

>>38263615
>>38264031
larping desperate homobeggar

>I share my fake anime girlfriend with hundreds of thousands of other men
>but everyone else is the cuck!

>>38270083
This but unironically
Also you don't need to think of them as your girlfriends to hate male collabs

>>38264031
So many triggered replies by one samefag lmfao

>>38270083
cry more homobeggar

>>38266867
You have no clue what you are talking about. Tons of popular seiyuus participate in those kind of variety shows.
Have you ever seen mobage streams? They do that kind of shit.

>>38270217
Putting every single variety show or event in the same tier is a pretty disingenuous argument, there's clearly a difference between quiz shows and promotional events and being hypnotized and having to do high school bread races

>>38270083
yeah all of them are me

>>38270217
Having hung out in the seiyuu threads in /jp/ from time to time before getting into vtubers, it seems like some of that can be chalked up to some of the late 2000s-early 2010s seiyuus playing at doing idol stuff.

>>38263696
>>38263615
>>38263716
I kneel to management for trying to prevent this disaster of a stream. After chaining coco and showing that THIS is what pekora had in mind, truly shows that they wanted the best for us. But now they realized they couldn't tell her "No" a second time. They should've.

>>38259928
Cheers

>>38271013
Nice delusions.
This was greenlit because it actually falls under idol culture standards.
Look at the various real life idol examples already posted ITT.

>>38271382
What do real life idols have to do with virtual idols?
It's like saying "Real life people can't use magic and don't pilot mechas so the anime sucks".
It's a retarded thing to say.

>>38271572
Virtual idols have a smidgen of culture that is only beginning to be defined, that shit is changing constantly as is the position of unicorns when one of the many chuubas they claim as their messiahs collab with a man and they hide their cope.

>>38271572
What are virtual idols based on? Real idols.
Why wouldn't the two be related?
And even if there was an unwritten rule saying virtual idols can't do hypnosis streams with an old man and he gropes them. They have suddenly changed that rule and it's now allowed because one of the biggest talents decided she wanted this not just for her, but for her coworkers that willingly joined her and knew in advance what would happen.

>>38271662
>Virtual idols have a smidgen of culture that is only beginning to be defined
That's why we have to make sure that they behave in a unicornfriendly way now.
>one of the many chuubas they claim as their messiahs collab with a man and they hide their cope
Pekora is 100% unicornfriendly. Anyone who claims otherwise is either a schizo or falseflagger.
>Buh buh buh muh male collabs
No unicorn gives a fuck about that hypnotist guy. Same as nobody gave a fuck about that wrestler guy and drummer at the previous holofes.

>>38271803
>What are virtual idols based on? Real idols.
So? Doesn't mean they have to mimic them 1 to 1.
>Why wouldn't the two be related?
Related doesn't mean identical. Flesh standarts are irrelevant.
>And even if there was an unwritten rule saying virtual idols can't do hypnosis streams with an old man and he gropes them. They have suddenly changed that rule and it's now allowed because one of the biggest talents decided she wanted this not just for her, but for her coworkers that willingly joined her and knew in advance what would happen.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Can you rephrase yourself in a coherent way?

>>38271891
>No unicorn gives a fuck about that hypnotist guy
Yeah the guy that groped all 4 girls on stream and was approved by the girls and management to be allowed to grope them, something much worse than male collabs? Yeah you're right, no one cares about him groping them, that's totally why there's a unicorn thread denouncing Pekora up currently. >>38265798

>>38271891
>No unicorn gives a fuck about that hypnotist guy.
You do know all the unicorns are more extreme than you? They don't care about whether men are side characters or not, they hate all men showing up in streams. This is seriously going to bite you in the ass because they are more schizo than homobeggars.
I warned you, ignore this or move on, whatever.

>>38272052
Sure lemme dumb it down.
>Any preconceived thoughts about idol variety shows not happening with virtual idols is now out the window
>This is because Pekora used her 2 million subs wish to have this variety show and Marine, Noel and Polka willingly came along.
>All 4 got groped on the variety show, but it was pre-approved by management and the 4 girls because it's "part of the show"

>>38271382
Not that guy but, aside from the schizo ramblings on idols and whores, I also thought it was kinda bad. That kind of show only works with meatbags where you can actually see what's going on. Looking at a bunch of polygons being supposedly hypnotized and force fed a bunch of wasabi doesn't really make for a very good show.
Always thought Pekora understood that virtual youtubers' strength was their free rein over virtual worlds, not aping some shitty variety show.
>>38272079
He even spelled if for you, anon.
>Anyone who claims otherwise is either a schizo or falseflagger

>>38272079
>something much worse than male collabs
It really isn't. A fat ugly guy touching the girl means that what's happened on camera is literally all there is to it. With male collabs, they're long term coworkers, something happening backstage is a lot more likely.

>>38272273
>This is how hard unicucks have to cope to maintain their world of schizophrenic delusions

>>38272273
Read >>38272243
It's still virtual, you have no idea what happens backstage after.
I'd rather take someone being thousands of miles away than someone being within touching distance, but maybe I'm the insane one.

>>38272079
Thanks for linking that thread for the second time lmao
Now I know for a fact you are just a dramawhore shitposter who keeps making those threads
>>38272206
So show me those unicorns then? Not falseflaggers from here but actual nousagis being mad about it
>>38272210
The way you write is headache-inducing but your issue is that you didn't understand what I wrote right?
Let me dumb it down for you
>Male collabs with obnoxius slimy ecelebs/leeches/male vtubers are bad
>Male collabs with normal people are fine
>Shilling collabs with males are the necessary evil
Simple enough for you?
Why are you even pretending that this was the first time Pekora callabed with a real life male? She collabed with real males on Japanese TV and radio more than once. Are you a newfaggot or just pretending to be retarded?

>>38272422
Shouldn't use my post as an example, I agree with the guy you quoted. You gotta be a special kind of retard to apply the ugly bastard trope to IRL scenarios.

>>38272525
I only linked it once. And that's because it's literally ITT. >>38265976
Kinda hard not to notice it. But hey, if me being a dramafag to you helps you, by all means. Go for it.

>>38272525
>So show me those unicorns then? Not falseflaggers from here but actual nousagis being mad about it
You'll see them if you keep going like this. Laugh or screencap this.

>>38272422
Just look at literally any idol/va marriages. They always happen between people working in the same industry, never with the random guest that shows up once.

>>38272676
I will see them where? In this thread? Are you retarded?
>screencap this
Do it yourself

love live fags are a plague

>>38271803
>>38271891
>>38272052
>>38272210
>>38272525
Stop trying to argue. You were all wrong about the use of terminology. Stop trying to redefine everything. But language is always changing bla bla bla. Nobody cares. It won't change anything.

Vtubers are not idols so stop calling them that. Vtubing fanbase is not idol culture so stop calling it that. Every time you ignore this you risk getting burned and it's your own fault.

Heheh, come here Peko-chan…

>>38272796
Is that an anime or something?
Weebs are a plague I agree with all that "Muh real idols eat shit on stream so virtual idols should do it too" mentality.
>>38272839
You are the most obnoxious poster itt. I don't give a fuck about real life idols. Kill yourself weeb.

>>38272993
Quit projecting crybaby. You did this to yourself, get fucked, shut up or keep embarrassing yourself for our entertainment. That's all you're accomplishing.

>>38273165
>projecting
Do you know what that word mean? What am I projecting pray tell.
You are so tiresome. I don't care about real life idol. What do you not understand?

this newfag really thought idol meant GFE ASMR streamer, how fucking embarrassing. Pekora deserves this reaction for having such a retarded burger and SEA audience though.

>>38273288
It's because you're being purposely obnoxious dumbass.

>>38273315
What reaction you delusional retard? 2 retards arguing with 2 falseflagger here?
Nousagis don't care as well as Pekora's gachikoi. And why would they? That wasn't the first time she collabed with a real life male which you would know if you weren't a newfag.
Go play mobile idol gacha or something.

>>38272273
Is this nigga for real?

>>38272273
Cuck fantasies have completely rotted your brain man. Stop those thoughts immediately

>>38273507
holy cope newfag, thanks for self-identifying though

>>38273837
>Didn't know that Pekora collabed with males before
>Calls someone else a newfag
lmao

>>38273507
Please understand, Pegor hasn't had any significant yab in over 3 years. Anything goes at this point.

>>38273958
Her last yab was Christmas, which is exactly what jp fans are latching onto.

>>38273958
I am honestly surprised he didn't meantion that halfdead boyfriend rrat yet.
He probably never heard about it considering how new he is.

>>38273999
>cold chicken
>anything goes at this point
Yeah, that's exactly the kind of shit I was referring to.

>>38272243
Thinking it didn’t work well is separate from arguments over what is and isn’t “idol culture.” A bit of experimentation is good for seeing what parts of the traditional formula need to be tweaked to adapt to the medium.

>>38274230
But didn't you hear anon? Virtual idols should do everything exactly the same way as real life idols do.
At least that's what the local shcizo believes.