/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

LOUD
Won't shut the fuck up.
Constantly bringing up shit nobody asked about and gets cricket responses.
Too lewd.

She's rude and disrespectful

She won't bob on my knob.

>>382052
Because they don't have taste and their ears hurt when the door squeaks too loudly.

>>382052
I don’t know I don’t watch ENs.
It’s probably circlejerking autism.

>>382052
her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me

Reposting because threads with this exact question keeps popping up every fucking week:

A speculative look of what she had done to garner so many antis and filter many potential subscribers:

>Design
One of the very basic foundations for determining the popularity of a Holo is her design. Holos agreed to have a poor design, whether overall or in the live2D model, tend to be the runt in their respective generations if it's not by a yab (e.g. Mel or Towa); Flare's squished head, Nene's chink outfit, etc.
Kiara's design is a mess of washed out bright oranges that hurts the eyes, clashing elements of phoenix, super sentai and fast food employee, and fast food being an unpopular design gimmick that rarely even works.
>Doxx
When doxxniggers started spreading the word about who she is around her debut, it turns out she has a shit ton of old antis that have been keeping an eye on her from even way back. They quickly caught up once word on the street arrived, and apparently there's a lot of figurative baggage she's carrying to have them consistently follow her around.
>Wapanese
Kiara's gratuitous self-translating during her first week didn't sit well. Not only was she unable to make a smooth conversation without interupting herself every few seconds to say what she said in nip, but it got pretty repetitive and annoying. Some think Kiara was LARPing as a JP holo that time.
>Pekora fangirling
There's simply just something that doesn't sit well with Kiara not only being the only member of her gen to list a favorite senpai on the screen, but even including a collab with her as one of her career goals and constantly squeeing every time she mentions her name. Kiara made the mistake of thinking that being a Pekora fangirl (along with being a TakaMori shipper) is a personality trait on her first week. In addition, her laugh is unsettlingly similar to Pekora, as if she's some sort of skinwalker. Needless to say, this pissed off a lot of nousagis who felt that she was emitting a creepy stalker vibe, and her getting emotional when she finally got her dream collab certainly didn't help. Speaking of emotional...
>Emotional instability
Kiara is the easiest to cry out of her genmates, whether be it from being overly sentimental or from a superchat from an anti, fanti, or KIARA MY DOG DIED. It's an incredibly awkward moment when a streamer cries on stream for reasons that aren't related to games or whatsoever; many people will hop out from the stream in turn. Unfortunately, this is also a pretty good way to signal antis that their ammo is working.
>Extroversion
In a generation of autistic introverts, Kiara is the only extrovert. And in a company of introverts, she is one of the only extroverts that can be counted on a single hand. Many people feel as if she's breaking around a dozen standard social conventions every time she speaks to her genmates, and around 4423 Japanese social norms every time she collabs with her senpais, allegedly violating "reading the room", rules of seniority, overfamiliarity, etc. Whether her genmates and senpais actually find an issue is a matter of intense debate.
>Takamori
This ship has a pretty rough start. Kiara was super active in pushing everyone to ship her with Mori, while Mori was not even a fraction as active in promoting the ship. As a result, the ship felt forced at best, and at worst, rapey. Although if the narrative that the ship was corporate-sponsored is true, the fault really lies in both of them-- Kiara for overplaying the obsessive part, and Mori for not even thinking about how tsundere would translate into a western/English context. As time went on, however, Kiara toned down a little on how much she'd push the ship, while Mori dropped the abusive tsundere act in favor of a "I love you as a homie, no homo" act. Personal rrat says she made up the Takamori thing so she can repress her Pekora fangirling by directing it to someone she's closer with, gen-wise.

I might follow this up with a retrospective evaluation, comparing stuff on the list with how Kiara is doing today.

>>384443
Thanks for the fair evaluation of my Tenchou instead of the usual rrats. These are all flaws that I acknowledge but love her despite.

She's too annoying and too orange for my taste.

She reminds me of the obnoxious 90IQ western women I have to deal with in real life. She's like that one friend's girlfriend in your friend group that everybody hates.

what I would change about kiara:
>new outfit
>use normal voice or atleast close to it
>change relationship with calli from aggressive lesbian to close friend. People will ship it anyway like they do gurame.
>be more chill in collabs. Dont force yourself too hard, when it comes to filling every dead second with a conversation. You aint alone and you should be doing less speaking in a collab compared to a solo stream anyway.
>dont numberfag (to be fair she hasnt done it in recent history)
>dont give JRPGs more than 1 Slot in a week.

improvement to holotalk:
>make it JP only
>dont livestream it, but premier it with your subtitles added.
>since it is not live you can edit out potential yabs.
>allow your guests to go off-topic. Yes it is nice to have prepared questions, but it is better to sacrifice some of them for more genuine interaction between host and guest.
>show should have more of a lose structure
>all the points above will help the conversation flow more naturally, which is what more people want to see.

Since I dont want to just leave criticism, I will also leave good points about kiara:
>she is hard working -> streams alot and long
>she has multiple projects like songs and holotalk instead of just gameplay streams
>she pushes for unity in her gen by pushing collabs.
>she tries to be a bridge between JP and EN
>she actually cares and is interested in hololive
>she is good at talking streams
>she is great when it comes to interaction with her fans

>>384443
Extroverted autists like Kiara are absurdly exhausting to be around. I know a few like her, just... woosh they are living tornados of activity and emotions.

>>384876
>use normal voice
anon...

>>384876
Isn't one of her problems she wants to be J-Famous, not en/west-famous. I wonder if she slightly resents that she's finally become 'big' in a project that appeals to the west instead of Japan.

>>385011
Considering her debut, that's exactly the sentiment a lot of people got.

Why do we always have these threads during Indonigger hours?

>>385033
Considering some of the stuff her roommate did on the way to the top of ENVtubing she really should be more grateful

>>387404
sucking cocks isn't that uncommon in the idol industry, so I really don't get it

>>385011
>Baka gaijin weeaboo (in the truest sense of the word) actually expects nips to admire her for her weebery
Bird brained for real

>>387517
Give her a break, she was like, underage when she dropped out of highschool to achieve her weebdreams

>>387626
I'm sorry, is this supposed to make it sound better? About the only positive thing I can say there is, hell, she's got more balls than 99% of weebs I've ever known or heard of. Doesn't make it any less cringe.

Selfish and attention-hungry to the point that she tries to hijack any collabs to be around her only

>>387717
>she tries to hijack any collabs to be around her only
Did you only just now realize "watch only me" wasn't just a meme?
https://youtu.be/fRA0cg2Oy2E?t=69

>>387127
Kek

>>382052
I just genuinely don't like her pushing herself on Mori and making all the awkward, perverted jokes. She feels like Mori's toxic fangirl that get too close to her and can't hold down her fangasms...

>>389081
same, but with Pekora

>>384145
Despite all of this shes still kinf of qt

>>384955
If you watched Calli's stream during their vacation Kiara was talking to her from across the room and sounded totally normal without being nasally or annoying. Why can't she just use that voice?

>>389301
autism

>>384443
>>Pekora fangirling
>>"There's simply just something that doesn't sit well with Kiara not only being the only member of her gen to list a favorite senpai on the screen, but even including a collab with her as one of her career goals and constantly squeeing every time she mentions her name."

I'll give you the rest, but this one doesn't make sense since all of them worship the ground Sora walks on, and Ollie came out a few months later practically confessing her love to Matsuri in her debut and no one had a problem with it.

>>384876
Yeah, Holotalk needs to be way better. Might to spend time watching old videos or something; it's a tough job on it's own, and halfassing because you assume people will just watch it since it has Hololive members definitely doesn't help.

Her doing an imitation Pekora laugh just proves how fake and manufactured her whole personality is

>>384879
This

>>389683
It's not really a thing that hasn't been done before, but she stands out because she's the only one in her gen that plays it up.

Same reasoning with her karaoke-to-milestone streams, she's the only one in her gen that does them (at least, regularly). Antis and shitposters target her for it.

>>382082
These but I like the lewd.

Honestly just something about her rings my warning sirens super hard. I could micro analyze small things that annoy me, but they aren't anything of substance. But what I can say is any time in the past my warning sirens ring like this it always turns out to have happened for a reason.

She's annoying and pushy but also a hard worker and you can tell that she's a good person because of how empathetic she gets so I forgive her.

>>384443
>Doxx
why are vsimps like this? how is saying that *online persona A* is also *online persona B* a doxx?

Thoughts?

>>382052
>rude
>lesbian
>tries to bait jap viewers on debut
>loud
>annoying
>have thin skin
>very easy to get jealous
>full of herself

>>391521
But it was a doxx though? People found the cosplay circles and individual cosplayer that Kiara is/was pretty easily, aka not an online personality

Eveything about her reminds me of girls in America ironically enough and I should hate her for that, but in all honestly I appreciate girls like her being thrown into the introvert-focused Hololive mix. It creates an interesting dynamic and often she keeps conversations flowing. She's rude sometimes yeah but rarely is she outright mean. After she singlehandedly managed to save the Mahjong collab I came to appreciate her a bit more too.

>>391746
Her cosplay personality is still active and anyone with a brain can figure out that theres probably not that many austrians in Japan.

>>392408
She literally only joined hololive so her cosplaying channel would take off too

>>384876
Based Anon

I love kiara

>>387626
In a weird way i respect it, but it's probably not great for her long term.

>>384443
So basically, just a bunch of bullshit stuff that doesn't really matter and is not even really relevant anymore. With the exception of the extroversion factor, but I don't know if I would even consider that one, because both her and her senpais and mates can take their time to prepare to be with one another. It also doesn't help that most of the shit Kiara gets for it are things that are not really that big of a deal and you mostly only see autists crying about it here. Also, get your head out of your ass with that Takamori shit. Mori is just as accountable as Kiara for it, because not only she enables her, she actively pushes it too, be it on her twitter or with her own antics in some collabs and other stuff. I wish you guys would complain to Mori or about Mori instead of trying to act like she is a fucking victim.

>>392499
people keep saying this, is there proof?
i mean she moderated her roommate's channel's comment section from being too dumb. i could say this can warrant your statement to being false.

>>397828
Its bullshit.

Kiara was my less favorite holo for months until I watched a few of few of her streams, she is pretty funny and a really good talker. Still I agree with the above post about how thrash her design his.

Whenever she speaks Japanese I feel like she's mogging me

>>392499
That is priorities. The right kind.
Even for the wrong reasons.
So how would one go about finding her cosplay channel?

>>396656
Me too

>>387649
She doesn't just have the balls, she's seeing some sort of success out of it despite everything. I respect that, even if I think she's far too annoying to watch solo and consider her design to be a garish mess.

>>397754
Fuck off Kiara Anti, don't get mad because your excused were called out.

>>400339
Seems like her success now stems from luck more than anything at this point, especially considering the decade of failures.

>>384443
They keep poping up every week because the same people keep opening them. Often they are too lazy to even change the picture of the OP. Same pictures, same filenames, same antis and yes they are antis, because the question was answered a million times already. It shows their only goal is to keep the hate against kiara going.

You summed it up well, showing the reason kiara gets more hate than others is an accumulation of a lot of minor things. Sadly once you reach a certain level of anti activity, there will also be alot of people just jumping on the bandwagon. "Everyone seems to hate her, so I hate her too... am I one of the cool kids now?"

I mean come on... not "reading the room"? I hear that one repeatedly. I want to have a dollar for every introvert, that acts like he can read people well on the internet. If they have such expertise in human interaction, how come they spent most of their time alone at home infront of a PC? Leave it to the social rejects on imageboards to judge someones communication skills.

>>382052
I liked it better when she still had her scuffed mic. It at least masked her voice. Now it's just unpleasant to listen to and I need to lower the volume on full EN collabs.

>>384443
desu looking at takamori as a cute comedy routine will make it seem less cringe

>>384629
too orange you say?

>>391648
Is she really a lesbian?

>>391583
>Thoughts?

>>409603
I think she's bi

I can't really understand the hate, most of the issues brought to the table are minor and some are not relevant anymore. If you dislike her because she's loud and annoying, go watch someone calmer, it's that easy.

>>384443
Her imitating Pekora's laugh really turned me off desu. She really stumbled around the first few weeks and it felt like she didn't have a core identity, she was just trying to copy others.

I also personally find her personality to be extremely forced and grating. I don't know what it is, but her enthusiasm feels fake somehow. I can't quite place it. It's TOO enthusiastic and it feels like she's compensating. It doesn't feel natural.

Everything about Kiara kind of feels fake. That's my main issue with her.

>>412438
I don't "hate" her per se, I just dislike the way she changes the interactions with the other girls. Even her interactions with Mori feel forced. Like Mori is clearly not into it and it's kind of funny for like 5 minutes but it veers into creepy quite quickly.

My main issue with Kiara is that she leans too heavily on the others and doesn't seem to have her own shtick.

>>406228
that's what I've always viewed it as, kinda like dead-pool and lady death romance, functional immortal falling in love with either death itself or a psychopomp.

>>412676
The problem with Kiara is that she's too jumpy and she makes their interaction seem awkward. Like, imagine if Marine were Kiara and she was interaction with Mori.
>You're DEAD!
>*dies*
>*resurrects*
>I'm still horny

Instead, it'd actually be something like this:
>You're DEAD
>*dies*
>*resurrects*
>So I died and resurrected, and it was quite painful, but I still love you and...

>>412438
I think more people dislike her than hate her.

>>382052
I just find it strange how she's holoEN but her english is only passable.

>>384443
>Wapanese
>literally "it's okay when pikamee does it"
k

>>387445
and prostitution in cosplay is also fairly common.

>>382052
Horrible voice, numberfag, leech, forces yurishit, can't take criticism. There are so many flaws about her that I can't even list them all.

>>382052
She nothing but a leech and her personality is annoying. She does all these things with other hololive because knows needs their viewer base to gain any kind of following.

>>384443
The design part is true, emotional instability is quite obvious, the doxx part I don't follow because I'm not interested in rumors such as this, but the rest is a non-issue to me. Extroversion is fine because it makes her different from the rest, instead of having a whole group of Ames and Inas. Being a fangirl isn't so uncommon, as Matsuri herself fawns over Nijisanji vtubers of all things.

What people criticized a lot was the high amount of collabs which led to think she was trying to promote herself, which might be true but let's be honest here. This is a business, I can't judge her. She's trying her best and she's got the personality that takes her stuff seriously.

About the whole Takamori stuff, I think it was supposed to sound like unrequited love. She knew Mori would play hard balls and not give in, that actually created a gap opportunity for her character. If anything, both are gaining from this.

People try to read too much on Kiara and she being emotional tend to get distressed over this. Giving in to trolls is what pulls her down. Mori struggled with trolls a lot at the beginning, but she ended up establishing herself anyway.

>>423684
Fake image btw

>>423684
>falseflag image
You had one job

>>406255
Rope, chair, jump.

>>423684
Imagine irrationally hating a fictional character so bad that you feel the need to create a fake picture in order to justify your insanity lmao.

Why are soe many of the haters Indonesian?

>>427608
tl;dr they don't take their meds

>>427608
I don't think they are. But you'd see her talked about more in HoloEN and HoloID threads because both cater to EOPs so there would be overlap.

>>382052
She is a stacy