/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

oh nyo, someone's mad!

>>38183675
*corrects your cunny*

>>38183275
>health issues
Is that what they call pregnancy these days?

GURA HAS CANCER OH FUCK

>>38184149
Thank god my cock is chemo-therapy equivalent

>>38183275
Her mic is a $30k Neumann that's held onto the boom stand with duct tape. If you don't get the humor in that you're lost. Gura is an idol, not some 2view you groomed. You should be happy she streams at all and it's not only paid concerts. No "/s", i'm まじ af. She can lose every single membership and still bring in a profit for Cover. Antis can't stop her, chumbuds are sadly unable to stop this process. She's ascended.

>>38184202
>Spend 30k
>Still sound like shit half the time
omegalul

>>38184202
>Idol
>Nihoungo Not Jouzu after 2 years…

More funny things Chumbuds tell themselves vol.3

>>38183275
Oh she had many nuts over the past 2 weeks.

>>38184605
lurk moar faggot

>>38184789
>Lurk moar
>Because retard shark's nihongo somehow gets better that way
Chumpedos....not even once

>>38183275
Fuck off, she actually streams everyday since today

>>38184983
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct

The only thing I didn't believe was that her family helped fix her PC. That was an obvious lie.

>>38184868
So many breaks..
>No projects
>No JP reps
>One Orisong

Kek god have mercy if you membered/sc to her, just watching your money drain away.

>>38185353
>Yokles from the south
her whole family would need to convene a meeting to figure out what RAM does

>>38183275

She could have said literally anything and you'd still say she were lying because you don't like her.
What's the point of this thread?

>>38185914
>She could have said literally anything
Nah, the truth would have been nice and widely uncontested

>>38183275
A catalog bait thread I actually agree with, she didn't address why the fuck she couldn't send a single tweet or post even once to the community tab over three weeks. I hope her medical issues are not actually serious but considering she wheeled them out along with two other excuses I am inclined to think she is just using it as a smokescreen.

She said she would talk about it again because it didn't make any sense even to her??
I guess I will wait for the next stream and see if she actually follows up on that, though I doubt it. I was ready to forgive the lack of communication if she had been in Japan or busy with projects, my bar was pretty low honestly I was looking for any reason to explain why she didn't bother to take one minute out of almost three weeks to update us but pc hort and I cooked a turkey somehow is not cutting it.

>>38186090
You got the truth though. How can you prove it otherwise?

>>38184506
go back

>>38186497
Yeah, I had held out hope and left feeling a bit down. Does she need a second try at her lie after she has more time to get the "facts" straight? She seemed kind of out of it.

Why won't she just admit the truth I made up? Fucking shitty blue tard.
Say the things I want to hear, not what your chumturds want.

You guys are embarrassing. Who cares if she doesn't want to burn herself out?

Get the vax, pay the tax.

>>38184202
>"idol"
>still only has one original song even her fans can't pretend to like
LOL

What reallt caught me off guard is when she was talking about the pie. She said it was "hot" but then was like "wait what am i even saying it wasnt even in the oven... um.... my brain um..." and then she took a second to compose herself. It was exactly like when kids contradict themselves when telling a lie. Sounded absolutely bizarre. Im not even a schizo that thinks she lies about everything but that one was very odd to me.

>>38186933
If she needs this many breaks for this long, she needs way more to not be burnt out. She actually needs to go on hiatus or something. I imagine she’d never admit to feeling burnt out even if it’s true because a lot of chumbuds might interpret that as “graduation incoming” and actually prepare to leave.
Full disclosure: I don’t watch Gura, so I don’t care on a personal level. Still, she’s been saying she’ll try to stream more repeatedly (I know this just from threadwatching, that’s how often people have talked about it), and hasn’t delivered. I want her to recline, just because I don’t want any other vtubers to think they can take constant breaks like this and be secretive about it without their channel suffering.

>>38187302
I would have said it makes sense she takes a little sabbatical or something; people working at a quote-on-quote real job aka office job etc with PTOs, usually that is like 1-2 weeks a year. So if you mostly didn't use it for 2 years you might do a couple-weeks vacation eventually. Sure.

But the thing is, Gura has done that like .. 4-5 times this year already it feels like. So I wouldn't be like "sure just go take a break grombus even though you were gone for like 3 weeks just now" etc.

>>38183275
And they'll believe all of it because the blue dorito can do no wrong

Mucho texto

>>38187274
Exactly like kids

Uoh TuT

>>38186764
The karaoke was amazing and the retarded she was on drugs rrats are just that. But yeah it did seem like she was signposting that she is going to have a second go around on the excuses because she can't justify it.

I know she has said she disconnects from hololive when she is not streaming before, but this latest arc really throws it into sharp relief that it is not just a healthy work/life separation but an entire bunker when she is not active, I don't know if she does it for her own mental health or really what the reason is, but the very fact she seems to need to disentangle herself so strongly from her fans when she is not streaming hurts.

>>38183275
she said she will explain it better in the next stream

>>38187523
>I need more time to sort out my lies because I'm not smart enough to do it on the spot

>>38187511
I do the same honestly even with close friends I go on hiatus and even long/permanent leaves.

>>38184202
Damn Anon... I feel sorry for you, hope you wake up from this illusion soon

>>38187584
> permanent leaves from close friends

>Pay membership fee
>Get ghosted
>When you speak up about, get told you're ungrateful and she isn't beholden to you

>>38187584
I understand it, I have done the same with people in my life, but it doesn't bode well for her relationship with her fanbase if she can't bear to talk to them when she is on a break. It doesn't indicate a good relationship with them if you can do that no matter the personal reasons.

>>38187302
Ok well I do watch her, since day 1. And I've watched many chuubas over the years. Gura taking as many breaks as she needs is 100x better than watching my oshi stop streaming. There are so many people I've watched who are fucking actually gone, including deleted channels of chuubas I spent hundreds of hours watching. If she is going to be a lifelong member of holo pro, none of this short term shit matters to me. Take the time you need, stream when you feel up to it, and don't ever graduate until you retire from the industry.

>>38187733
What makes all of this whole thing so fucking actually-toxic, is that there is an unspoken incentive for some of the fans to try to one-up the other fans if they see the chance, to try to elevate their status/position/get noticed by their oshi. In which case, they think they'll be liked more by their oshi if they're a pure yesman and shit on any non-yesmen to elevate themselves over them. They want to be front of the pecking order. This also explains shit like Ayame or Rushia.

So, there is incentive for some chumbuds to be yesmen and do everything they can to try to validate Gura no matter how fucking stupid and irrational it is, because in their minds they're winning if they're the last one left anyway, as opposed to actually-being a loser for sticking with an oshi 99% of everyone else thinks went to shit and ditched. They think, it's at this point, they win the game basically. But they don't. They just get either a polite "thank you for supporting me" before the girl quits or worse the girl will finally take off the mask when it doesn't matter anymore and humiliate that last mega-ultra-simp (happens with twitch thots etc).

>>38187938
I completely agree with this but still wish those breaks came with updates showing some level of concern for her fans who might be wondering what is going on.
I don't expect her to treat her community page like a diary like Ame does, I respect that she is a different person who really values her private life and its separation from her job, I still think it is reasonable to not be left in the dark as often as we are.

>>38187523
>Next stream

>>38188007
cont.
So, the way fanbases go, can evolve in two routes:

>a.)
The fans enable the girl to get worse and worse because enough of them think it's beneficial to be a visible, loud white knight defending their oshi from the horrible.. other fans of that oshi who dare question anything at all she does. Sometimes the girl herself is at fault here by openly coaxing and siding with the yesmen etc, it depends. This allows the girl to get worse and worse and fewer and fewer people are actually having fun with the content, it's a net loss overall.

>b.)
The fans have a give-and-take and enjoy the girl when the times are good and exit quietly when they're not. Fans may or may not shitpost each other or the chuuba herself (nousagi are proud of being a nuisance to pekora) and it's all in good fun. Some of them are more hardcore and tolerant than the others but the fans aren't cannibalizing each other openly over it, for example I don't see the takos blaming each other much or trying to take each other down if they speak up about "boy ina has not been talking to us much.." they just stay quiet and leave the room (/wah/ is literally a dead ghost town now). I'm not saying takos are the be-all-end-all best fanbase (they're not, and I'm not a tako myself, it's just easy example because Ina's away), but I do think they're being sporting about being put through 2 months of nothing compared to Gura's 3 weeks. This again probably has to do with the girl, Ina herself never SC baits or tries too hard to cultivate mindless hypersimps, she's fine with the fans she has and happiest if she inspires them, and that's that.

STOP ADVERTISING YOUR SHITTY CLIPPER CHANNEL

>>38188007
I'm a yesman chumbud because I support gura, it's simple as that. I don't know anything about pecking order, I don't send chats or superchats. Nobody from Gura's community has any ides who I am. My only interaction with Gura since the day she debuted was embarrassing myself on her Amongus stream. She doesn't know who I am and I dont care. I have a membership so I can support her and watch membership streams. Her streaming irregularly does not bother me. It's not what's most important to me. But, if she ever can do a proper one man live, I'll be the first person buying tickets to go watch and support my daughter.

>>38188351
>No link
>Already an established channel, not some 2view
>An hour later on an already dead thread
Chumbuds ladies and gentlemen....incapable of critical thought or even knowledge of their own meme responses

>>38188348
I think it is worth acknowledging that Ina also gave a far more comprehensive reason for her long absence, she even mentioned that it was very likely going to be next year until they saw her again.

If Gura ever gave us a explanation like that, three weeks of absence would not be an issue, but as she said tonight, she does not want to share any details with us. She also seemed to reveal that she was having problems in the first place by accident and quickly changed the subject.
I don't think it has anything to do with how much either girl baits SC (Gura never does this btw) or what kind of fanbase she cultivates, but rather how they communicate with their fans.

>>38188418
Then you are not a white knight yesman to begin with. Just a normal fan. Why wasting time reply to that post ?

>>38188223
Your take is reasonable and I think we are mostly on the same page. I would prefer if we could reach a middle ground, but I think it's harder than it sounds. There will always be people who want more and never stop being selfish.
For example, if Gura would take time out of spending Thanksgiving with family to write us a message, most people would be happy with this. But then there will still be people upset that she won't stream. If they leave nasty comments, then now she is going to have a worse time when she returns to her family. It makes it very hard to separate work life balance but tell people they should still do some work.
Personally I need to separate work and life and maintain a healthy balance in my head or I have a really hard time with both. So I can support gura fully disconnecting. When I used to get stressed about work during all hours of every day, I got physically sick to the point of developing hives all over my body.

>>38188646
Yeah I was gonna expand a bit on the girl sometimes being at fault here but already had a long-ass post and didn't. Basically I was gonna highlight, Rushia literally played blatant favorites and sent private videos to her top donors. She would try to remember your name, look you up and badger you if she saw you donating to other girls, etc. Thus you had a bunch of people sticking with her even with the literal worst imaginable yab happening to her. IMO that isn't fandeads being strong, it's their being weak, defeated, controlled by her beyond reason.

We don't quite have one like that in EN and neither Gura or Ina are at all like this, but it's not at all impossible there will be one eventually.

>>38186090
The truth would have gotten her another radio silent break. Myth has been acting out of it since Ina announced her indefinite hiatus. It wasn't just Gura that was missing from the Halloween collab or the Among Us holoEN collab.

>>38188690
Well I defend her on the bait threads of course, under the proud banner of ANONYMOUS!

>>38188646
Gura is never going to reveal bad shit like whatever negative news she got from the doc but that’s also okay nobody is really expected to expose personal info like that.
The sheer fact that she did it by accident means it was real and on her mind, it’s really on any of us here to believe her or not and take it from there.

I also don’t really know if takos really are that good? Gura clearly gets a ton of bait threads and even false flags it’s hard at time to tell real ones fromthe fakes even on both sides

>>38188824
I feel like Ina is at like, past the halfway mark in odds of graduating, but isn't herself super-sure yet.

I think the reason she's being so dead right now is it's a test run to see for herself how it feels and if Holo fans themselves react a lot to it. If she thinks she won't be missed and the coast is clear and she can get on with her life as it was pre-holo, she's probably a lot more likely to do it IMO than if she was strongly reached for by not just the fans but the other girls, IMO. The other Myths are probably more able to save inners than we are. The question is, do they even want to, can they etc.

what are vtubers doing with their computers since they apparently break constantly?

>>38188760
I can appreciate mindset playing a large role in how much of a task providing an update actually is. Whilst it may seem trivial to the fans looking in I can accept that fully disconnecting might be the only way she can effectively keep doing the job, I won't lie that if that is the case I would feel pretty bad, like her work is an imposition so taxing that she needs to disconnect entirely but I guess I can understand it. I still hope it is not true though.

>>38189038
Liquid cooling via shidding onto the CPU
Air cooling by farding into the vents

mass report the clipper channel

>>38184112
She had an abortion btw
Having a black child was probably too difficult for her

>>38188805
Yes, this is the parasocial relationship I need.

>>38184202
>No "/s", i'm まじ af.
Please tell me this is copypasta.

>>38189078
Everyone is different when it comes to things like work life balance on their emotional well being and how often and severely they feel a need to disconnect. But I think it's important to realize that it may not even be about how she feels about her job itself. I disconnect from my job and I don't hate my job or the people I work with. I just get stressed when I think about work when it's not work time. Some days it takes more effort than others, but I mentally clock out at 5pm. I've been working for about 20 years now (mid 30s). It doesn't mean that she doesn't care about gura, or that she doesn't care about her job, or doesn't care about her fans. To me it means that it's stressful for her to think about work obligations, when it's not time to work. It's probably a hard thing to sell to some fans, but this is how we as fans can hopefully get her to continue to grow her love her job. I truly believe she loves Hololive and loves being part of Hololive.

Deadbeat deflection

Why every one is so hostile?
Do not we all like idols?
Can we find friend ship and mutual under standing because every one like idols?

If Gura sick is un fortune.
Like Gura a lot, hope Gura health soon. Not stream is ok, have very a lot to see any ways.

Why come over string of idol no like talk bad to every one.
Seeming very head stupid.

Have nice day

>>38188916
I was not really commenting on how good or bad the takos are, I assume they have schizos just like us, just that Ina despite keeping a pretty firm distance from her fans still seems better at communicating the situation with them when it comes to absences

I agree that her sharing it even accidently suggests it really is playing a role in all the issues she is having, it is frustrating that she went halfway letting us in then decided to keep it to herself after all but I can appreciate why she did.
I am just going to sleep and stop thinking about this for tonight.
>>38189541
It probably is a hard sell especially to fans that don't do a lot of disconnecting but I appreciate the perspective and hope you are right, it made me feel better too. I also think she loves hololive despite everything.

>>38189778
For fans that don't do a lot of disconnecting, I'd recommend one of two things. For those who want the more parasocial experience, find a real GFE chuuba (would not personally recommend). As lovely as she can be when she wants to be, Gura ain't it. Or, for those who just enjoy chuubas in general (me), just find other chuubas. I'm following a whole range of chuubas of different streaming styles, different niches, on both JP and EN side (more JP honestly), and I enjoy watching chuubas every day. Doesn't change that Gura will always be special to me, and I'll stop anything I'm doing to watch her sing.

CUNNY I KNEEL

>>38189691
Gura is not and never will be an idol with her work ethic and constantly ghosting her own fans

>>38187274
I don’t know why she will lie about a pie though
She sounds like she have brain cancer (or absolutely drunk as shit)

lmao even Ayame had plausible excuses.

>>38192729
never thought i see the day where ayame is actually better than gura

>>38183275
She lies because she knows she can get away with it, but deep down probably feels guilty. She is a pathological bullshitter though.

I hope my shark wife is OK. Gooba, of you ever read this, ignore these faggoty retards. They're just mad and insecure that their oshis can't inspire the same amount of love and devotion in their fans that you do in us. But don't be too hard on them. It's not their fault that their oshis completely fail at inspiring any emotion in their fans because of their complete ineptitude as not only streamers but as human being. Love ya, sharky.

>>38192729
>I am moving apartments for 3 months
>my internet is bad for 2 months
>I'm helping my grandma for 2 months
>My grandma died for 1 month
>plausible

>>38185353
Well I'm her husband so I'm techically part of the family now.

>>38189038
>trusting woman with hardware

>>38184202
>>38189691
I like Gura. But she's not an idol.

She's got an extremely poor work ethic, she's released one original song in over 2 years, she can't dance and she struggles with the social side of her job. She's akin to a campfire singer at a holiday resort.

>>38194610
>An idol (アイドル, aidoru) is a type of entertainer marketed for image, attractiveness, and personality in Japanese pop culture. Idols are primarily singers with training in acting, dancing, and modeling. Idols are commercialized through merchandise and endorsements by talent agencies, while maintaining a parasocial relationship with a financially loyal consumer fan base.
Yep, Gura is an idol, she does everything in the description. You can debate the quality, but she is clearly an idol.

>>38194905
>she does everything in the description
I don't recall Gura being trained in acting, dancing and modeling.

>>38195026
She is trained in voice acting and modeling for motion tracking, obviously, and there was literally a stream where she was training her dancing with Kiara. 100% idol shark.

>>38188760
Gura could schedule a tweet right now for Christmas, but she won't. She's incapable of even the bare minimum. She's unironically trying to be Kronii

>>38195234
Not camwhoring on rm account.
50%

>>38183275
>>38184202
dont know if you guys are homobeggars or nijifags but holy shit this baiting is boring to read

(-_-) zzz

>>38195234
Okay at least now I know you're not being serious.

>>38195234
>a stream
>singular
That's like saying she's been on a nihongo training arc from a single duolingo stream and look how far that has taken her (hint: absolutely nowhere). And that's on top of Duolingo being the WORST method to practice/learn any meaninful japanese. She'll do the bare minimum, get anxious and never pick it up again.

>>38195377
I know you're sad your oshi sucks anon.Let it out.

>>38195852
On this note of a nihongo training arc. Despite supposedly taking lessons at a college, Gura still has by far the worst japanese in EN.

>>38183275
Why have chumbuds left her so poor she cannot afford to replace basic streaming equipment? Shame on you

>>38195999
lol
lmao

>>38186933
>Who cares if she doesn't want to burn herself out?
It only takes her 2 weeks to do that

>>38195999
She's only at college for the boys.

I'd be a lot easier on her if she wasn't squandering such an opportunity. Let's get real. If she had health issues, she was able to travel and cook. She wasn't so sick that she couldn't send a tweet. Just minimum professionalism.

Her fans just grasp at any way to excuse her behavior. She is as reliable as a crackhead and seemed to be acting like on one stream also. She obviously does not like the job. Even if she were just bad at it she'd know some basic interaction on twitter was important. I hope she has a really long off collab with Ina and Sana planned for us.

Nijinigger deflection thread.

>>38195999
can you imagine being in a college classroom for your jp class and some white girl walks in and she starts talking and youre like holy shit thats gura

>>38194151
>uuhuh I don't want to talk about it Chumbud. Keep your head down and don't ask questions.

>>38184202
*clap clap*
NEXT MEME

>>38183275
You need both your ears and your brain cleaned out bro because she didn't say any of it that way. Might I suggest ASMR?