/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Nijiniggers deflection thread
Where's your fortnite collab nijinigger? We're waiting

Ah so this is the other Fauna stream, I figured once I saw the announcement. That's a shame honestly, two Fauna collabs in one day, but they're filled with the Faggots' favorite cumholes.

>>37901570
don't need nijiniggers to do anything. this is all disappointed holos because the branch is in a disgraceful state and nobody bothers to fix it

>>37901452
It's embarrassing how lazy EN are. Like if it wasn't for Hololive what would these bitches be doing to make a living with how lazy they are?

>>37901452
Because half of EN is sick of mangament and Cover. Something big is happening behind the scenes. I just hope they are paying ID extra.
Also, she doesn't sound sick at all.

>>37901570
EN cope

>>37902907
Ogey

>>37901452
It's management fault, they need more support!

>>37902907
Nice fanfic nigga. Management could fire them overnight like they fired Rushia and unlike Rushia they won't even keep 2K viewers. All of them are irrelevant without the brand.

>>37901452
I don't blame them for not wanting to play this game again for the umpteenth time.

>>37903044
theyre already at 2k viewers while in hololive

>>37903051
It's better than most of the crap they play.

At some point this shit has to be addressed. It’s only getting worse.

>>37901452
EN already did this when the merch dropped, anon.

Did people already forget about this? It was originally supposed to be EN only.

>>37901452
Based, holo collabing with a good old american company, instead of niji with the genshin killer knockoff.

>>37904070
Every branch did that, retard.
The difference is that EN is the only branch that can't do a second stream despite one branch having less members than them. Also non of the EN members featured in the collab are showing up. Fucking hilarious how lazy they are.
>>37903051
Instead, they just don't stream.

>>37904405
It was EN/ID just like the one today. Today has the EN girls (besides IRyS) who weren't in the orignal one.

>>37901452
It's a real shame schedules have to bend over backwards due to Kiara being in the middle of the timezones.

>>37901452
One of these days, Kiara will say something that will get her in a lot of trouble.

>>37904890
It's not really a shame because she's the only EN member who has any capability and drive to organize events like these. Maybe if Cover debuted an EN3 with someone who also wants to be an event planner we wouldn't have this problem, but they decided to create a sub-branch that was never going to be part of these streams.

>>37904890
>It's Kiara's fault that my oshi's lazy
Do cuckbeats really?

>>37904299
I would have refused to watch regardless. Far too many whores in that collab.

>>37901452
don't be such a me me me bitch like that skeevy whore anon because she will never be well-received here no matter how hard you tries

>>37904890
It's a great time for NA holos, which are most of EN. The hell are you talking about? Kiara is the one that has to stream at an inconvenient time.

>>37901452
so wheres Ame?

>>37901452
They should invite EN3 a.k.a. Tempus then instead of ID

>>37904890
You do know the stream starts at midnight for Kiara right, meanwhile in USA it starts between 01-06 pm, there is no way it is more conveinient for Kiara, you fucking retard

>>37909695
>Invite Tempus instead of ID
>Fauna drops out
>Kiara also drops out and now they don't have the planner/tard wrangler
>Only 5 people remaining, 7 if we include Mori and Watson but who knows if they're interested
Doesn't sound like a good idea.

>>37901452
>EN management
Well we know one of them wasn't going to show up since Gura said she had to travel to Japan around this time so that's management forgetting about this thing too, but I don't really get why they're doing another stream when they already did this when the merch first released.

>>37901452
where's Tempus? Ollie would normally invite at least two

>>37909695
>Invite tempus
>Kiara and Fauna drop out
>Now it's tempus' job + the 2 remaining ENs to promote Ame and Gura's among us merch
You're retarded

>>37905157
Kiara worked in the idol industry and seems to have a good idea of what level of detail would get her in trouble with management. She does complain but keeps it vague.

>>37909911
>3-6 pm on a holiday weekend where they are most likely spending time with friends and family
vs.
>oh no 12 am where shes alone with nothing better to do, boohoo she'll lose an hour or 2 of sleep
None of the other members call her out if shes passes on a collab when she takes off for her monthly vacations, dumb bitch

>>37901452
EN is lazy as fuck, just cancel the sponsorship and collab kekw

>>37901452
ID is happy for the chance to earn more money because their fans are poor

>>37901452
>not enough ENs bothered showing up
What a shock.

>>37901452
No gura Kek.

>>37901452
Why does management allow them to be so lazy?

>>37901452
so, council, kiara and a few ID, Myth and irys are the absents.

>>37901452
btw seems Mumei's part of it and Ollie just forgot to include her here or she's a last minute addition.

>Now /vt/ cares about a shill Among Us collab.
You guys are really seething over this? If it was VR, more people would show up because that's actually something new. EN still has the best Among Us stream from last year. Trying to force it is the more pressing problem.

>>37910573
>3-6 pm on a holiday weekend where they are most likely spending time with friends and family
It's fucking Sunday. Nobody spends more than a day or two visiting family.

>>37901452
They are traveling to Japan.

>>37911037
It's not about among us retard. It's about EN being the only branch only branch that has to force another branch to be awake at 6 am because they're all fucking lazy and can't do their job and management just trolling with it.

>>37911033
She’s been having throat issues for the past couple of days, Ollie might have assumed she wouldn’t be doing well enough to make it.

There isn't going to BE an EN Gen 3, at least for a long time, specifically because of how EN Gen 1 and 2 are.

Cover doesn't want to make the same mistakes on nothing talents again, so they're being extra careful in their hiring process and probably making more demanding contracts as well that forcibly require the talents to stream since Gen 1 and 2 have proven they won't actually do it without being held accountable.

At this point, they should wipe the slate clean, fire the entirety of EN 1 and 2, then start over fresh with committed talents heading up the charge.

>>37910824
Management is completely incompetent and as lazy, if not more so.
The entire EN branch, management included, should be fired.

>>37905342

If she wants to be in charge of event planning, then quit and become a manager seeing as that is a managerial responsibility, not a talent one.

>>37908962
Midnight an inconvenient time for gamers....right. That's literally prime time for your average gamer let alone that it is also prime time for the actual viewers not the "We in the EU totally have a strong viewer base even though the numbers literally say otherwise."

>>37910824
Shitty management or shitty contracts that allow them to get away with these things.

>>37911131
I really do think that management is a big issue here. It seems like when they talk of management, what they really are talking about are personal assistants who get them perms and the like, not someone who tells them "Hey, this is your schedule and your responsibilities."

>>37911131
>awake at 6 am
Ohhhh noooo god forbid they have to be up at 6 am to go to "work" like tons of the rest of the world

>>37911700
too much for the caucasian entertainer. you will NOT watch regular live streams as part of your morning routine

>>37911247
The problem is that the longer it takes them the more nothing will change. While I get that being more careful is a good idea waiting too long is also not a good course of action because it'll reach a point when all the talented girls went indie and reached a point where going to Hololive won't be a massive upgrade for them or went to other agencies and are well established enough that they don't want to drop everything just to become a Hololive member. We're obviously not having a November debut, and I doubt we'll even have a December one. January is the earliest month for it and if they seriously let the wait reach anywhere close to how long it took for Uproar to debut (23 months) then Cover is absolutely wasting money paying whoever they hired to manage the EN branch.

>>37911614
Dude how the fuck do you think HoloJP handles these types of collabs? Do you seriously think management does everything for them, from inviting the girls, planing the date and the time and setting up everything? You think it was management that planned the Sports Fes or the Mario Kart tournament?

>>37901452
No gura and ina is not surprising, but no ame or mori? That's new

>>37911892

If management ISN'T handling these things, they're in the wrong here. That's literally the job they should be doing, managerial work.

If they're not doing that, what are they doing besides asking companies for game perms?

>>37911247
>>37911594
>>37911594

These types of posters are completly delusional.
>Yeah, let us fire everyone, I am sure the fans won't mind.

>>37901452
>Why aren't they launching EN3
waiting on Ina to announce she's leaving.

>>37901452
>kronii invited
Sigh… Looks like this is another collab i’m gonna skip

>>37903129
Your reading comprehension reps, anon. The claim is that they wouldn't be able to hold on to 2k viewers if they left.

>>37914136
Mori wasn't invited, so I'll try to watch, clock doesn't talk much anyway.

>>37901452
>not enough ENs bothered showing up so they needed IDs to pad the numbers
ID are always the convenient branch who have to make up for EN's laziness, par for the course.

>Kiara: "There needs to be someone that says "at what time are we doing this" or else nothing I SWEAR TO GOD NOTHING would get done. At least I'm getting compensated this time, but not for the organizing."
BASED KIARA

>>37913238
>what are they doing besides asking companies for game perms?
We already heard from Gura that there's only 1 guy in charge of asking for game perms, and if he's gone silent then no one has any idea if there's any new perms.

>>37915030
Let's be fair though anon, Kiara loves being the put upon hero of the branch who saves the day when needed. It makes up for her shitty numbers and gives her a purpose in life.

>>37915030
Timestamp?

>>37903044
>gura was fucking massive
>cali rm does her own tours and has 400k subs
>kiara has 200k and gets 400k views on her MV
Lol stfu and kys

>>37914757
>clock doesn't talk much
I was wrong, dropped.

>>37910824
>Why does management allow them to be so lazy?
>>37911594
>Management is completely incompetent and as lazy, if not more so.
>The entire EN branch, management included, should be fired.
Got some super secret behind the scenes stuff you somehow obtained?

>>37913238
Well it works perfectly for HoloJP, even if they have a few members who are consistently absent (but who are still present in most of those big events). Not to mention that hiring a bunch of managers to deal with that stuff would make the whole thing WAY more corporate, like how it was back in the Kizuna Ai era. But if you think it would be for the best then suit yourself, I'm not here to convince you that this is a retarded way of doing things.

>>37911247
>At this point, they should wipe the slate clean, fire the entirety of EN 1 and 2, then start over fresh with committed talents heading up the charge.
This is some elaborate BS boiled down to "You hate Hololive EN"

EN doesn't do their job so EN3 isn't launched because cover doesn't see the point in spending money on girls who don't stream.
>even kronii is there
Myth EN starting to look pretty shit.

>>37915371
Satan cubes couldn't even get 3k viewers for her twitch rivals appearance.
I'm sure a gaslightbeat will show up and say that twitch rivals is somehow debuff content.

IRyS and Altare are both awake. I'm guessing originally they might have wanted Tempus to join, but now they're just not gonna do that because Japan told them to stop being retarded and creating division for no reason. IRyS probably didn't want to stream if she didn't know whether the males would be there or not to protect her gachikoi income. Gura and Ina probably dipped the fuck out and Mori is always flightly. Amelia not doing super sunday?

Probably should have had the amogus shit a few days later so that con and thanksgiving wouldn't be issues. Also glaring now that there just aren't enough EN girls to pad the numbers since Sana bombed and took a spot with her.

>>37916219
Seems an additional issue here is the fact that management also asked for Gura to go to Japan for some sort of work so if she actually did end up going in November as she said they completely fucked up the scheduling for this, or maybe they assumed the other girls will do it

>>37911700
are you sure "work ethic" is the argument you want to go with when EN couldn't even be bothered to show up?

>>37916403
They probably assumed 'all her shit wouldn't break at once' as she says. But then I guess this would also be a failure of management that they can't find even a laptop she can use to be gura. Reminds me, amusingly, of a time when a manager tried to get me to go to the store to "buy work laptops with your own money", assuring me that the company would reimburse.
>I didn't because I knew they wouldn't
Jobs everywhere are so poorly run. Managers are retarded thieves and worker morality drops when you have retarded management.

>>37916019
So they debut StarsEN hoping they would get their own Luxiem? Well, am I glad that hilariously backfired and even brought us the first suspension of HoloproEN and the first public announcement of a suspension since the Taiwan debacle.

>>37916003
It is but he's also right that they need holoen3: actually streams squad of desperate 2 views hungry and contractually obligated to stream at least 5 days a week for an entire fucking year so this retarded problem stops.
>flip a coin
>you can make 200k in a year just being an anime girl part time, you can go to work or on dates or back to collegia in your downtime or whatever it is you do
>but you just gotta stream
And it'll only get worse when someone like Bae gets to her later years in college because her mom wants her to get a high grade and get into lawyer doctor school or whatever.

>>37916611
I do believe the crashes she had on both of her computers, but I also believe that knowing Gura it was likely a case of her not knowing how to fix something that was probably simple.

Regardless her main PC she apparently is getting whole new parts for. But I can only assume her backup works now or she was using her phone at the con.


Still a mess to have this so close to thanksgiving, the con AND members starting to go to Japan

>>37916727
>public announcement
And they've said that it was "for nothing" so Vesper was probably saying he'd just go get perms himself if manager-san wouldn't do it, so japanese must discipline disrespectful worker. Vesper was getting 7k at his peak and inclining too. This will basically kill Tempus' momentum now, the other guys have already tanked downwards to 1-2k.

It's just monolithic mismanagement from all sides.

>>37911131
>>37911700
I HAVE TO WAKE UP AT 6 AM FOR WORK REEEEEEEEEEE

>>37916952
>so japanese must discipline disrespectful worker
Nah, I seriously doubt it was something that dumb. Vesper got a public announcement while Oga almost indirectly made all vtubers lose permissions from the fotm game at the time and only got hit with a week off and an apology when he came back, and he was nowhere near the popularity of Vesper (and still isn't). Until proven otherwise I can't see him as anything other than a menhera that managed to hide pretty well.

>>37916219
Irys also has a stream at 8. Since 2.0 is in full rollout mode rn I could see her not wanting the promotion of her new merch underperforming bc she would have to promote the amongus crap instead of hers in her own stream.

>>37916840
>Regardless her main PC she apparently is getting whole new parts for. But I can only assume her backup works now or she was using her phone at the con.
Not really useful if she doesn't know how to repair it herself, unless she has a guy that can be her IT support.

>>37917293
>Nah, I seriously doubt it was something that dumb
It's not dumb in Japan. He's literally the kouhai of kouhais, the newest generation. If he is being disrespectful as the youngest child he must be disciplined to maintain order of seniority. The japanese do not have a concept of "40 year old man hops to new job".

>>37917447
Anon, remember the Laplus thing with the rust server? Remember how she didn't have a public punishment? If that wasn't enough for Cover to suspend her then there's no way Vesper got hit with a 2-week announced suspension because of some discussion with management. It doesn't add up, as you said he is the most popular member of his group so doing something like that for so little would be an insane thing to do and there were multiple members from all branches who publicly complained about management and never got any kind of punishment.

>>37918037
Vesperfags just can't accept that he's a rapist.

>>37918274
I don't think the rapist angle is correct, but for him to be the first HoloproEN member to be suspended, the first Holopro member to receive a public suspension announcement since the Taiwan bullshit and the first Holopro member to be suspended due to something internal he fucked up immensely to the point Cover didn't want to look over his infraction, even if he is the most popular member of Tempus. It was enough for them to accept fucking up with their momentum, so there's no way it was a nothingburger.

>>37918037
>discussion
I'm not talking about discussion I'm saying over the past few months he has repeatedly disrespected them, been insubordinate and overstepped his bounds/sought permissions outside his rights to do. This is not america and will not be america, insubordination is serious and Vesper has "IT expert" syndrome where he is used to being invaluable to the company and able to demand things. As a junior he has no such power in Holostars, he is 'no one' even if he has high CCV and superchats compared to the other guys. Even just doing stuff like turning off superchats for members streams alone without telling management was probably enough to overstep his bounds. He has likely been ignoring them or going over their heads repeatedly.

The people spamming rape are deranged clockfags who can only think about how Kronii was actually happy to talk to him instead of their depressed sexy Eeor the donkey.

>>37918630
Noo but muh hecking NOWA my grandparinooo he's actually good, he validates the existence of Homos, just watch him he's funny and says he doesn't want to rock the boat, ignore all his actions, just listen to himmmmm!

>>37917018
I HAVE TO WORK AT ALL REEEEE

>>37918803
Well if he really did that then what did he expect that was going to happen? I understand that Cover, especially the EN management, is stupidly incompetent and slow to get new permissions, but overstepping his boundaries would only get him fucked in the long term. He won't gain anything by going at management with this bellicose approach, and as shown in the results of his actions he found out after fucking around. He did something that no Holopro member managed to do before, and if that doesn't make him a menhera I don't know what will. Even Astel, the textbook example for a menhera who even cried on stream about management bullshit, didn't get this treatment.

>>37903044
It's mutually assured destruction, you're right but also the western girls would air out all the dirty laundry if they got fired, and no Canadian or American court is going to help Cover try to enforce a Japanese NDA.
Plus they probably CAN'T even fire Mori now without Universal signing off on it, which they aren't going to do no matter what she says or does as long as she keeps making them money.

>>37915030
Damn

>>37903044
I'm getting a sad reminder of this one big Hollywood starlet from the silent era who eventually had to settle with being a high class escort in NYC to pay her bills. Can you imagine some of the Holo girls becoming camgirls or whatever the 21st century equivalent to escorts is?

>>37919288
Because he's stupid and american.
>astel
He has seniority.

>>37915030
>>37915222
Yeah but it wouldn't even be necessary if the management actually managed.

>>37919624
>or whatever the 21st century equivalent to escorts is?
Vtubers?

>>37902834
OnlyFans

>>37915371
Lets be honest if Gura got fired nobody would notice for a month with how often she streams.

And all for Among Us merch, which no one is going to buy, unless they're a pathetic consoomer from reddit with no standards

>>37920183
firing Gura would make a shitstorm all the ways in fucking seconds.

>>37901452
but you already have tempus incel unicorn

>>37921257
And what if I don't want to watch them?

>>37920220
Doesn't change the fact that retards will buy it, it will make money for the people who are in the collaboration products (Re: Ame and Gura for EN), and that it's obvious that management did branch promotions for ID, JP, and EN. It's sad that myth (except Kiara) is so disinterested in doing any sort of collab together that they had to ask nicely for some of the girls over at ID to come and play so they could actually have any kind of game.
How fucking shit would it have been if none of them had been available and it was just Kiara, Kronii, Fauna, Bae, and Mumei in the collab?

>>37916727
Huh, I don't look at the catalogue that often and didn't even know that Vesper got slapped. Makes sense why I haven't gotten a notification for him going live when he'd do 3-4 streams a week.

>IRyS-busy with her new redesign and merch, understandable
>Mori-busy with RM shit
>Ina-dead
>Ame-tummy hort
>Gura-lazy brat that won't even stream for her fans

>>37921835
You know they could've just rescheduled right? Assuming this wasn't a planned thing and just sprung on them then it makes sense.

>>37922621
It’s the last day for the merch...
It literally cannot be post-poned later than it already was.

>>37901452
>Why aren't they launching EN3,
Black company cannot get new hires. Look at the Jewish company, that's the bast hires avalible.

>>37919453
I haven't thought about Mori in ages, but you're 100% on that.
Cover shoved a grenade up their own ass and Universal is holding the pin for the next 4 years.

>>37901452
Ollie has to use to wake up early if she wants to keep her "RadiOllie" going

>>37922621
It was the last day and Kiara had to save EN management ass with this.

>Stream for the sole purpose of shilling merch
>The 2 members with the most significant merch dont even show up
The absolute state of holomyth.

>>37905157
Any day now right?
Christ you schizos have been saying this for 2 years.

>>37910090
Among us probably demand it for merch sale
JP & ID doing it again

>>37915222
As if even a single word she said wasn't true. Clearly you've never had a job and had to be the one trying to keep everything running because everyone else is lazy. The only thing more infuriating to have to put up with in a workplace is shitty managers-oh wait she has to put up with that too.

Props to Counsel for doing their job at least.
>Gura
>Muh Compooter busted sorriez guiz I can't think of an alternate solution!
>Mori & Ina
>Too busy with personal life shit to show up for 2 hours worth of work for their job.
>Ame
>???
Irys is reasonable because she just got her new model and is focused on her job of shilling herself first. Doing a collab right after getting the new model could eat into self-shilling shit and there's no reason to make her self sabotage. Fuck the other 4 though.

>Organizes a shill stream from merch that she wont even benefit that much from
Based chicken.

https://twitter.com/fishin4l0ve/status/1597032224591077376?s=20&t=82cFZxACJFNZZ_PfkTsnHg
>"Spontaneous collab"
>"Kiara did a good job being the leader and organizing the whole thing, even though she wasn't the organizer"
Just gets better. Some fag (probably Ame or Gura because they actually had merch related to this) backed out last minute and had Kiara scrambling on the back end to take over and recruit ID members to help out and fill out the stream.

>the 40y old """male""" aunties on the green website are at it again

>>37915947
HoloJP is also predominantly made up of girls who understand vtubing and give a shit, and even when you have someone who doesn’t care (like Laplus) or people who no longer stream regularly (Ayame, Aqua), there’s plenty of other girls to take care of that.
HoloEN doesn’t have either the quantity or the quality of chuubas to do that, partially because expectations of what you’re supposed to do on your own to help both yourself and the company aren’t fully established (meaning you have complacent idiots like Mori and Kronii who have no idea what made them popular in the first place). So for them, a management that can properly tardwrangle them and focus on a STRATEGY (aka long term planning) is very much necessary. The TACTICS (short term considerations about how to get views for specific streams or week/month of streams) should be left up to the girls insofar as that doesn’t fuck with the longer-term strategy.

>>37926802
>(meaning you have complacent idiots like Mori and Kronii who have no idea what made them popular in the first place)
I agree with Kronii but not Mori.
What made Mori popular was her music and shes pushed out more music in her years with Hololive than any member in the companies history.

>>37926900
That's an example of "close but no cigar", anon. Her recent music doesn't do as well. I think it's because her early music embraced the Hololive identity (i.e. that it was an anime girl doing it), while her more recent stuff comes off like her trying to just make her rm's music, but as Mori.
Both of them working together are necessary for it to work. The music being good AND being associated with the original brand is what makes weeb music sell.

>>37911247
>>37911892
>>37916807
If EN 3 are capable enough, they can bury EN 1 and 2 with their own efforts, firing Myth and Council will only draw heat from antis and ex-fans towards EN3 and sour people's opinion of the company.

>>37928112
Basically, make sure EN3 becomes HoloEN's Luxiem (but with female streamers of course)

>>37926314
Vesper is also male.

>>37921835
They could have played on a public server anyway with subs

This is only tangentially related but to this day it blows my mind that Nene was clinically depressed for a period of time, actively streamed during it and raised no alarm bells with her viewers that she was not happy. It's simultaneously sad and awe-inspiring that she powered through like that. Who in EN could or has done something like that? Fauna, recently with her cat and only a few days before jumping right back into it?

>>37913238
You should look what happened in the other tribe when the management do takeover events, it's not as positive as you thought it'd be

>>37911614
>If she wants to be in charge of event planning, then quit and become a manager seeing as that is a managerial responsibility, not a talent one.
Except event planning isn't a managerial responsibility. It is, in fact, a talent responsibility. You fucking retard.

>>37901452
>Kiara (who sounds sick as shit)
Because she was. She sounded like she was about to keel over during her wreath making stream.

>>37915222
>Kiara loves being the put upon hero of the branch who saves the day when needed
She really fucking doesn't. She doesn't like it much at all which is why she cut back hard on organizing group collabs.

>>37915371
>Calli
>>>/r/eddit

>>37928964
That probably depends heavily on whether it's a content collab (talent) or a sponsored collab (management). Guess which one this is.

>>37922621
It was the last day. JP did their shill stream days ago.

>>37928964
Tard wrangling people to show up when they're supposed to for scheduled events is like THE manager job.

>>37929392
>Guess which one this is
And management didn't have anything to do with organizing it.

>>37929459
The talents in Hololive control their own schedules. So organizing collabs and showing up to them on time is entirely their responsibility. I guess you don't realize how hands-off Holo management is.

>>37928112
Cover definitely need to hit big with EN3. They'll already be bigger than almost all of the NijiEN girls by default, but they should focus on them being bigger than Myth itself. They also need to be very meticulous about their debuts, with the first thing being to not tease them for a whole month with useless lore videos. Holox debuts were BY FAR the most successful the company had, even bigger than Council's, so while announcing and debuting them on the same day might be a little too fast for the EN side the wait between announcement and stream should be less than a week. Give them 3 days at most, which is more than enough time for them to interact with the fanbase without stretching the wait time beyond what should be acceptable. Also, daily debuts. Pick a time that's comfortable for the 5 members and have one debut a day to make each stream the main event of that day, and not have a fucking 6 to 10 hours marathon to debut all of them in sequence while maybe giving an hour between streams. I'm pretty sure that would more than likely set them up for a successful debut and the only thing they need to take care of is the talents they hire.

>>37928863
What Nene did isn't admirable, and if you haven't noticed the JPs are way more prone to take breaks after she started passing out during stuff. The Fauna situation is completely different than from any family member or pet death we've seen in the past. Fauna knew what she was getting into. She adopted an old cat to give him a nice place to live out his last days. It's still sad, but the mental preparation is completely different.

>>37918803
Anon, the thing about nips and seniority flies against one fact. Vesper is a dirty gaijin. There is no way nips will hold him to the same standard as an actual nip worker. Vesper acting out in chat is still just dumb dirty barbarian cant into culture and they will ignore them especially since this is internal. They’ll just treat it as continued education of an unruly child. That Cover required public penance implies a massive fuckup. I suspect that Vesper committed something contract-breaking and they let him off with punishment that is a step below termination because reasons

>>37930845
This. Vesper raped A-chan. But she's not important so he was only suspended.

>>37901452
>Not enough EN showed up.
>All of Council showed up
>Gura's PC still dead
>Ina is dead
>Mori and Ame not joining is a good thing because they drag down collabs
>IRyS is off being a diva now
Eh?

>>37915030
> Wah Wah, woe is me. Please see that I, Kiara, is saving the collab while the other members are lazy and don't want to work with me.

>>37901452
dare i say based? hell, this whore deserves to be burnt alive for causing the EN civil war

inb4 KFPhaggots come to white knight this skeevy bitch

>>37901452
To be fair, a full EN only collab wouldn't have had enough people anyways. Ina is MIA, Gura has broken PC, and Sana has graduated. That means there's only 8, total, that COULD have potentially shown up. 3 from Myth, IRyS, and Council.

With only 8 girls being possible from EN, they HAD to pull in ID girls. That means picking a time that worked for EN and ID, yet be at an NA/Europe friendly time zone. That's not easy.

I can give IRyS and Calli a pass due to the time. We all know the ID girls are based and are willing to do the grind. Ame is about the only one that I can't see any readily apparent reason for her not being there.

>>37930845
This.
Have you ever called a Japanese man a slant eyed nip to his face? I have, they just smile and assume it's some weird gaijin joke. It literally does not register to them. If you yell about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they will politely nod and clap because you are capable of saying a couple Japanese words jouzu.
This is why Mori has never gotten any shit, she is a gaijin and thus the Japanese assume by default she is an unruly barbarian, and they find it fucking funny.
For a gaijin to get a suspension in a Japanese entertainment company means real shit. You fuckers always talk about punishment room, well this is what it looks like. First a suspension, then they are "allowed" to continue their job in a severely handicapped fashion without any support until they fade away from the public eye and can be let go without causing a stir. This is why they are letting the others downplay it, encouraging it even. The fate is sealed, they are just trying to slip it by without causing any disturbance.

>>37911700
Cool. Tell that to night workers and night shifters.

>>37904405
Kek

>>37933937
>irys due to time
Irys literally rescheduled a stream to be directly after the collab

>>37909695
kek I wish, Would become an orgy

>>37931576
With the Halloween collab the only Myth talents that showed were Ame and Mori while for the Among US collab the only Myth talent that showed was Kiara.

>Myth is a shadow of its former self with one soft graduated member and another that just doesnt give a fuck anymore
>Council is a complete flop and lost a member already
>Despite this people still want EN3
Why? They will overlap each other and be just as bad as council was.
>>37928863
That wasnt awe inspiring, that was typical japanese autism, the kind of shit that kills people.

>>37930845
I think the public punishment was something that they did to appease whoever he pissed off (wether it be one of the girls or a higher up in management).

>>37901452
Wait is this their revenge because Kiara dropped off the collab with Tempus?

>>37901452
>Why aren't they launching EN3
This is the most important question

>>37938248
Well, I want it just to see EN3 be motivated to stream and steal fans from Myth and Council. The bloodbath would be highly amusing. All EN3 would have to do to incline is not be lazy like most of the other two gens, and anyone willing to join EN3 almost certainly knows that.
It would certainly make numberfagging more entertaining. /#/ is the only place I find out shit about HoloEN anymore because I don’t watch them.

>>37943060
Kiara would do a lot better if she'd just not stream at a shit time for the NA timeslot. She streams at fucking 8-10am start time EST and ends right when the average person is getting home from a day job. People in her chat/thread talk about how she's capitalizing on the EU market, but she's talked about her viewer statistics not showing a large portion of EU and it's just a scattered mess.

>>37938248
belieb in sankisei, id and jp done did it.

>>37917365
Like vesper?

>>37927204
Her new music is doing fantastic everywhere but YouTube. The place that matters least.

>>37901452
>Why does EN management
doesnt get fired

>>37901452
>Some ENs are lazy???
>Quick! Dispatch the ID girls!
>What? The JPs and ENs refused to be the Homos' Collab partners?
>Don't worry! There are ID girls!
I'm so tired of this, bros
Being a HoloID fan is painful. I feel like the branch is everybody's Toys, but IDmems themselves probably wouldn't mind, because
>Exposure

>>37903051
Most EN's have played the game a single time a year ago. The EN's who have played it multiple times just don't stream anymore.

>>37947837
they are 3rd world dogs cover can literally pay them 1500 usd a month and they would be more then fine, they are cheap and easy to keep around, as stupid as cover is this is not one of their issues.

>>37947837
>exposure
>EN
kekw

>>37943729
>gura has pc issues
>vesper offers to help
>something happens in their communication
>suspension + hiatus

>>37915030
Ehrenfrau

>>37949992
>I should've just kept my 150k a year IT job instead of joining these gooks
If it weren't for the fact, that Vesper actually dreamed about being in holostars, he probably would've quit already.

>>37931712
>all above is fiction

>>37950485
i'm here to stay and my hate for her is 100% justified (unlike the eggman and that owl bitch) better get used to it cuckFP

>>37901452
We really could use that EN3 now

>>37950870
You can't call your hate for her 100% justified when you admit it's all based on things you made up in your head, schizochama

>>37901452
Myth is dead.

>>37943499
Dude, if we only take EST into account it's 6 hours of difference for her. If she changed her hours just to pander to NA she would be starting around early morning for her, and I doubt it would change a thing because there would be overlap with all the other girls who are streaming on decent hours for them.

>>37952951
>made up
don't talk shit about my oshi like that because you will pay for it KFP

>>37950870
>get used to it cuckFP
Get used to what?
Are you a new challenger for the rank of weakest bait and most retarded anti? We already have plenty of those.
Who needs white knights with antis like you?

>>37947837
One day anon...
One day...

>>37933937
IRyS re-scheduled her morning stream from 9am to 10am. She tweeted at 3:15 am her time (now deleted)
She was up all night masturbating and woke up 15 min before her stream.

>>37953232
Make me pay. Come at me, faggot.

>>37952872
January, trust the plan. I'm starting to lose all hope and expecting that the wait for EN3 will break Uproar's record.

>>37938248
How can they overlap if they go long periods with nostreams?

>>37905157
Considering how much she's already said on stream, I doubt that.

>>37901452
and?

>>37919905

Logically.


But dont tell the Floor-lickers that, seething reminders of their Evolutionary ineptitude will send the flying off the handle and shoot up a near-by gay club

>>37958020
>I enjoy no streams and garbage
t. cuckbeat