/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>37876829
This further prove that it’s the girls fault EN branch was where it at for months. The audience is there, they just can’t attract them

>>37876999
Recent clip numbers
>>37797861
>>37797894
>>37797918
>>37797974
>>37798042

>>37876721
>>37876739
Chinese government is still doing lockdown things in every city.

One guy who lose his job due to lockdown can't take it anymore and give a speech during the protest.

That speech went viral.

A building was on fire but fire department can't enter the area due to the lockdown so they were burning alive.

People found out.

They are doing anti-ccp protests in a lot of cities.(you are here)

and rumor said Winnie the pooh is going to send tanks to Shanghai tonight.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>82,187: Laplus (Hololive)
>75,273: Aqua (Hololive)
>32,084: Nose (VSPO)
>29,321: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,163: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,821: Salome (Nijisanji)
>23,919: Mito (Nijisanji)
>23,786: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,695: Korone (Hololive)
>23,613: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,950: Chloe (Hololive)
>21,796: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,344: Flare (Hololive)
>18,340: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,308: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,536: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,093: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,793: Ito Life (Indie)
>11,886: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,634: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,601: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,516: Ars (Nijisanji)
>10,306: Calli (Hololive)
>10,208: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,028: Kobo (Hololive)

>>37877022
>they just can’t attract them
I mean their idea of attracting the EN audience is by debuting tempus and spam collabs with them so...

(reposting from last thread, about kson disclosing the collab ban coming from Nijisanji)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1662875442?t=4h21m37s
> "There's a streamer server you can join, so Ark will probably get even more fun" - chat
> "Eh? Streamer server? Where'd that info come from?" - Kson
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1662875442?t=4h22m27s
> Who's making the streamer server? Why didn't I know it?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1662875442?t=4h23m00s
> If I wasn't told about it, it probably means it's a server that I can't join.
> It's sad but I probably can't join it.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1662875442?t=4h23m38s
> "i don't think you can join since there's nijisanji vtuber" - chat
> Oooh.
> Yeah Nijisanji hates me, so..
> They're not allowed to collab with me. Because they hate me.
> And I didn't do nothing. And they know it.
> That's horrible *laughs* Sadge.
> Yeah, so I can't join that server.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1662875442?t=4h24m39s (long rant)
> No offense to the VTubers, no offense to the talents okay? But.
> I don't think it's a good thing to, y'know.. try to kick out some individual because of.. I don't.. what?
> Yeah, that ain't cool
> That's just straight up bullying I think
> But no offense to any of the VTubers there, okay? It's just the system I'm complaining about. (The VTubers) are not the ones wanting to do that.
> The company is doing that. Yeah.
> Hopefully times will change.
> They say it's because of the political shit, but I've never said anything political before and everyone knows that.
> That's a made up story. Made by the people who hate me. They did that because they hate me *laughs* and everyone knows that.
> But they're scared of them, and that's why they can't collab with me.
> No offense to any of the talents, because they're all being secretly so nice to me.
> Even if their company tell them not to do anything with me, they secretly message me about how nice I am or how wonderful I am. So no offense to any of their talents, they're all nice to me.
> I'm not gonna tell who did it, but they used their private accounts to contact me, so that the company wouldn't know I think.
> They said how much they respected me, and how much they loved my content, so um, they're so nice. Pog, yeah.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1662875442?t=4h29m47s
> No one hates me, not even the company. But they have to. Because it's business.

>>37876829
>>37877022
It's not just the EN box though
A portion of the JP box was definitely tuning into IRyS redebut (and Gura's live earlier) given their viewer demographics
Besides, the full JP "box" (misnomer but whatev) has reached 200k in the summer and 170k in the fall
The EN box is there, but a large portion of it just watch vods, or worse, are just clip watchers

>>37877082
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 110,897 - 4th anniversary 3D live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53,522 - Pokemon Scarlet w/QED
22) Korone (Hololive) - 88,503 - 3D birthday live
23) Akabane (Nijisanji) - 122,903 - Ex-Gamers 3D live
24) Noel (Hololive) - 88,526 - 3D birthday live
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,264 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
26) Laplus (Hololive) - 82,187 - 1st anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Suisei
1x: Akabane, Flare, Korone, Koyori, Laplus, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Noel, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
216x: Hololive
101x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
51x: Pekora
21x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Noel
4x: Korone, Koyori, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Laplus, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>37877092
>they secretly message me about how nice I am or how wonderful I am
>They said how much they respected me, and how much they loved my content, so um, they're so nice. Pog, yeah.
I can never get over how self fellating she can be at times

>>37877075
Good, hope Pooh will be Abe'd by the end of this shit.

>>37877075
Checks news
>ISREAL

>>37877092

>>37877092
>>37795002
Kek

>>37877113
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
211x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
49x: Pekora
31x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
21x: Marine
14x: Subaru
12x: Suisei
11x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Fubuki, Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui


>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
213x: Hololive
99x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
34x: Miko
33x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
27x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>showed that EN box was still present and easily just as big as JP box if not bigger
>mogged the most shilled JP gen in Cover history
>beat NijiEN costume reveals combined
>a massive 15,000 USD payday and nearly 1000 new members gained
Where were you when IRyS descended with her new look and saved holoEN?

https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1596803993225035778

>>37877115
I think her confidence took a crumble after the Super 3D and the reaction to it.
And Americans typically try to hype themselves up in order to overcome self confidence and insecurity issues, and grab onto any bit of praise like a life raft in a stormy sea.
So this is the result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnpoTPNCTY
NUMBERS!?

>>37877115
Wonder if her overrating her influence in the industry back then was actually why she graduated from Hololive.

>>37877092
> They're not allowed to collab with me. Because they hate me
I think she mixed two “they” here. Given that she exculpated both the talent and the company down below, she likely mean
>Nijisanji livers can’t collab with me because the Chinese business partners of their company hate me

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 duel wave with Iluna
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>37877184
Watame's SG performance looks like a mini-sololive.

>>37877092
>Nijisanji bans collabs with kson because they love China
>Hololive bans collabs with kson because they fear her leading an exodus
Who cares, the point is that companies are shit and kson is in a better place now

>>37877164
I’ll just assume you’re some sort of nijinigger setting up an EN vs. JP

>>37877242
Glad she's in another company now!

What did we learn last thread, anon?

>>37877075
>Zero tolerance lockdown in 2022
What the fuck, do they not have vaccines or even basic healthcare shit? How is this still a thing?

>>37877113
Gold Per Gen 2022 List

> Gen 3
72 gold
>Pekora : 51
>Marine : 10
>Noel : 5
>Flare : 5
>Rushia : 1

> Gen 2
41 gold
>Aqua : 17
>Subaru : 16
>Ayame : 3
>Choco : 3
>Shion : 2
> Gen 0
32 gold
>Miko : 21
>Suisei : 7
>Sora : 2
>Azki : 1
>Robocco : 1
------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gamers
16 gold
>Mio : 6
>Korone : 4
>Okayu : 4
>Fubuki : 2
> Gen 4
12 gold
>Kanata : 6
>Towa : 4
>Luna : 1
>Watame : 1
> Gen 6
11 gold
>Koyori : 4
>Chloe : 3
>Lui : 2
>Iroha : 1
>Laplus : 2
>Gen 5
10 gold
>Polka : 4
>Botan : 2
>Lamy : 2
>Nene : 2
------------------------------------------------------------------
> EN 1
7 gold
>Gura : 5
>Mori : 2
>Ame : 0
>Ina : 0
>Kiara : 0
> Gen 1
7 gold
>Mel : 3
>Fubuki : 2
>Aki : 1
>Haachama : 1
>Matsuri : 0
------------------------------------------------------------------
> ID 1
1 gold
>Moona : 1
>Risu : 0
>Iofi : 0
> ID 3
1 gold
>Zeta : 1
>Kobo : 0
>Kaela : 0
> EN 2
1 gold
>Sana : 1
>Kronii : 0
>Mumei : 0
>Fauna : 0
>Bae : 0
------------------------------------------------------------------
>ID 2
0 gold
>Reine : 0
>Ollie : 0
>Anya : 0
>Project HOPE
0 gold
>Irys : 0

>>37877242
Yes, jumping from one company to another

>>37877242
i am SUPER hapy for her

>>37877102
Sounds like made-up bullshit to pretend that JP box wasn't already surpassed back in September of 2020 but okay

>>37877242
I don’t recall Coco ever collabing with a corporate vtuber from some other company. Did she?

>>37877281
Ninisani hates Kson. But according to her the members love and kneel to her.

>>37877281
Nijis will rather make fun of Hololive than boost their own girls. When in doubt? Holo vs Holo

>>37877092
>>37877115
>they secretly message me about how nice I am or how wonderful I am. So no offense to any of their talents, they're all nice to me.

>>37877222
Any recordings of the event?

>>37877280
There's nothing wrong with zero tolerance lockdown. That's how they had the lowest COVID fatality rate in the world. We don't have to blindly hate on China just because of the Coco shit, China is in many ways a role model.

>>37877102
Proof next thread?

>>37877319
She might have a point. Kuzuha retweeted the waiting room for her graduation stream, management had him delete it

>>37877115
>Woman has a handful of good ideas
>Get's got by China
That's all she's got at this point. Worst part is she doesn't even have any more good ideas, so people are only nice to her and praise her because the "popular" thing to do is to treat her like vtuber Jesus. The next "big" vtuber for the hivemind to fellate will knock her out of the game completely.

>>37877092
>and people were blaming cover for this.
kek.

>>37877280
They've been cooking their stats, in truth their numbers should be more in line with India's death toll, given the population density and age of pop they have. Well, maybe less due to how hard they went on chaining people up, but the fact that it still ended up spreading a ton etc etc etc.

Peko nippon wc watchalong doko?

>>37877092
TO THE CATALOG

>>37877349
Too obvious, chinesebro.

Definitive numbers tier list:

CCV
HoloJP > HoloEN > HoloID > NijiJP > NijiEN

Unculled CCV
HoloEN > HoloID > HoloJP > NijiEN > NijiJP

VOD views
HoloEN > HoloJP > NijiEN > HoloID > NijiJP

Unculled VOD views
HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloID > HoloJP > NijiJP

Song views
HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloID > NijiJP > HoloJP

Subs
HoloEN > HoloJP > HoloID > NijiJP > NijiEN

Sub growth
HoloID > HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloJP > NijiJP

Unculled sub growth
HoloEN > HoloID > NijiEN > HoloJP > NijiJP

Likes
HoloEN > HoloID > HoloJP > NijiEN > NijiJP

Poll engagement
HoloID > HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloJP > NijiJP

Unique chatters
HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloID > HoloJP > NijiJP

Chat speed
HoloEN > HoloID > NijiEN > HoloJP > NijiJP

Superchats
NijiEN > HoloJP > NijiJP > HoloEN > HoloID

Superchats + streamlabs
HoloID > HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloJP > NijiJP

Merch sales
HoloEN > HoloJP > HoloID > NijiEN > NijiJP

Live event attendance
HoloEN > NijiEN > HoloID > NijiJP > HoloJP

>>37877337
KEK

>>37877349
kek, cheap bait, have a (you)

>>37877349
Thank you, Mr. Schwab.

>>37877092
>Sorry kekson-san. I ainto gonna risku my chinkbotto for your irrelevanto assu

>>37877384
With her family right now probably.

What's up with footie and faking getting hurt?

>wake up
>IRyS 92k
nice
>post zatsu 12k
breh, it's the same stuff like ID 3D, nothing but tourists

>>37877092
someone save the clips?
I think she may delete the vod if these went viral.

>>37877393
>Source: my asshole

>>37877319
I mean
>China
Really is all there is to it. Nijisanji doesn't want to risk sponsorship issues by having ANY sort of relation with her. It's less 'hate' and more 'ballshittingly scared', because if they lose even ONE sponsorship, it won't have been worth having even a single collab with her from any of their members.

>>37877393
>Merch sales
>HoloEN > HoloJP
How are you sure about this anon?

>>37877375
>pretending Cover isn't just the same bullshit as Anykara when they punished Haachama for even daring to send a congratulatory message to kson

Cope poweranking: >>37877393

>>37877310
well half her career she was building the HoloBox and the rest of it she was radioactive to the rest of the industry

>>37877092
Would things have changed if Coco acted more apologetic during the chinkout?

>>37877384
Management is autistic with permission so no watchalongs

>>37877384
No perm sorry. Imagine a corpo chuuba asking FIFA for perm

>>37877155
This new model look so good

>>37877430
>nothing but tourists
Stream like that is always a tourist-central, retard. Even in JP.

>>37877458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HhS5jUWGns Nijis are doing it right now tho

>>37877430
>Events are full of tourists
No shit, you would get an aneurysm if you follow Niji number

Will people here ever realize that timeslots matter a lot?

>>37877280
Because they want to subjugate their peolple under winnie's tyranny. Dude tryana be the son of heaven

>>37877310
She never so much as thought about Nijisanji as Coco, and the 'Streamer Server' is not hosted by Niji at all.

If the people in charge wanted Kson then she'd be in. It's that simple. The only person who thinks she is such a famous ARK player that she simply has to be involved is herself.

>>37877438
Go search what Gura said.

>>37877483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnpoTPNCTY
Why the hell is Salami doing a watchalong as well

>>37877497
Only when it involves their oshi

>>37877430
>breh, it's the same stuff like ID 3D, nothing but tourists
Ohnonononono, don't look at Nijisanji's 3D debutants' regular ccv, anon.

>>37876993
Proof that AnyKara are the one who banned collab to cater to their MASTER's will.

>>37877164
>Great job siphoning funds for StarsEN2, IRyS

>>37877092
She sounds very different compared to coco era holyshit.

>>37877514
Name one other ARK player who was acknowledged by Vin Diesel and the devs. Don't you have a lockdown to be dying at, chink?

>>37877443

>>37877452
My point is that Holo talent, herself included, very rarely collab with corporate vtubers from other companies.
There is nothing particular about kson not having collabed with Holos, it’s essentially the same thing that happened when she wanted to collab with Melody, she was likely told
>given our image, that doesn’t line up with the type of partners we want for our company
The only difference is that she’s at the receiving end now

>>37877430
What's funny is that that 12k viewers would beat half the cripple gold this month anyway

>>37877517
Single gura can't match HoloJP merch sales retard. Or are you putting ration on mervh sales

>>37877514
The entire 10 minute long rant was from a random comment speculating about her not being allowed due to Nijisanji, so it stands to reason that Niji is using their clout to keep their members from interacting with her.

>>37877563
This. She finally on the receiving end of all those indies and small corpo that requested collab and got ignored when she was coco

>>37877609
Learn what the definition of obliterated is. It obliterated all previous records and has never been matched since.

>>37877487
>>37877537
impossibru, this thread told me that she would incline just like uhh......... yeah

>>37877456
The vod of Chink Tatsunoko who try to claim down the situation and explained what Coco actually say are deleted by bilibli's mod team.

It's part of the plan, only the plan failed because cover decide not to dogeza to their bilibili+holoCN heavy hand tactics.

>>37877281
Enna is a more successful musician than Irys and even if her outfit reveal manages to not get as many numbers as Irys's we have to remember:
1) Irys is getting a redesign, which is a uberbuff compared to Enna who is just getting an outfit which has the same theme as the rest of her wave. Don't forget Irys was complaining publicly about her model for months, which is why this got debut-tier numbers.
2) The queen of spades design is a debuff and a lot of people will probably be turned off by it
3) Irys has the entire pool of HoloJP tourists to draw from because she speaks Japanese. Enna has to rely on Chinese tourists who Vox managed to cut in half because of his retardation.
4) Enna's timeslot is awful for maximum tourist draw.
5) Irys's music is still going to flop after the redesign because she's a boring singer who relies on her technique and voice quality but has no soul in her singing. So much for being the dedicated Vsinger.

>>37877280
Only the vaccines they developed themselves are allowed because China Strong.
The combination of them sucking and a relatively low rate of vaccination makes them still vulnerable.
Also Xi has identified himself with 0-Covid.
Turns out ideology leads to retarded decisions

>>37877642
It was all over the moment she put that endcard on her first stream back, there was no calming things after that point.

>>37877456
> Would things have changed if Coco acted more apologetic during the chinkout
Not really. In both sides the audience got caught by the then ongoing “trade war” between the US and China (and the whole Chinese originated pandemics thing) and her situation become an extension to that.
All she could make there was making a choice: to antagonize the western side or the chinese side.
She could have EASILY pulled a Lebron, and try to appease the chinese but the she would get the same western reaction Lebron (and the NBA) got.

The game was rigged against her from the start. She got caught on in a Zugzwang and every move she could make would just sink her harder

>>37877022
sounds about right really, /vt/'s overall activity has only gone up or stayed steady the past year yet many of the HoloEN girls' nombs stagnated or dipped. So what the fuck is all that posting going into if it isn't HoloEN? Nijis, small corpos, indies etc. Vtubing fans are still around and still into the chubba vtubers. They just diversified out from HoloEN and shit like Tempus faggotry has not attracted them into coming back.

But a very cuterys IRyS makeover making her literally turn from the ugly duckling into a swan? That's something the EN fanbase can get into. Irys was kind of paved over quickly by Council appearing but over time people realized that she's a much more amusing/charming personality than most of the other EN girls and most importantly, doesn't come across as a petty/spiteful person which is something many of the holoEN girls fail at.

>>37877663
It's too soon to cope about Enna's sub 50k compared to IRyS' 92k, anon.

>>37877092
>Vshojo shells out for both the ex-holos thinking they're getting a real deal
>They're both radioactive menheras with barely any viewers compared to their past lives

>>37877548
The fact of the matter is that the streamer server is largely comprised of V-Tuber companies that regularly interact and fleshtubers that they normally hang out with.

Nijisanji, Neo Porte, 774, VSPO, and the pro FPS players and other influencers you tend to see in Hal's or CR tournaments.

The guys in charge are the same ones that let Laplus join their Discord to get involved until Cover dragged her back and forced her to play in the defunct 'Holo server'. If Kson isn't in then it's a decision the hosts have made. This is what failing to make larger connections looks like.

>>37877547
Didn’t she get the coof in her trip to Taiwan?

Just woke up
Any competition to Lui gold today?

>>37877732
>CCV matters
kson's merch is selling out even better than before, not that a chink like you would know

>>37877741
Japan VS Costa Rica

>>37877547
is it the part where they look like they're talking in wingdings?

>>37877754
Proof next thread?

>>37877092
This makes me even more confuse, why the fuck did she even graduate back then? Like, why cant she adjust her contents like the rest of holo after the holocaust. Heck even Choco-sensei who got her channel nuked many times and got her main contents nerfed to oblivion still can provide good entertainment with her collab ideas, cooking, and grinding shit. I swear this bitch was stupid af! For falling to EOP's muh creative freedom meme

>>37877735
The point is that kson is the most famous ARK player in Japan, period, and if they're not letting her in it means they're bowing to the chinks.

>>37877337
holy kek I can actually hear it

>>37877754
Do we have the number for that btw because “selling out” is a pretty loose way to indicate success

>>37877754
NTA but to play devil's advocate you do realize this kind of thing can be easily gamed right.

>make 1/10th as much merch as prior runs on Coco stuff
>it sells out instantly making it look like there's red-hot demand
>hail the "success" really brought about by leveraging supply:demand

>>37877663
Yeah when you adjust for the relative differences in company strength, overall popularity, personality, and international draw, Emma is basically as popular as IRyS.

>>37877337
She truly was orange

>>37877430
This is why no one values the opinion of numberwatchers
She already did an hr long zatsu during her reveal stream and it was practically a guerilla stream an hour after when 50k+ viewers were already pulled into other streams.

Also, go check her fucking stats bro. Her two streams were on steroids. She’s closing in on 240k views for her zatsu, she made like $15k in SCs, 700+ members, 6k subs so far and her outfit reveal is already about to hit 500k views. That’s tourism mixed with actual attention.

>>37877782
>implying she wasn't forced out
>implying she wasn't slapped with a no-compete clause for a year after that
Gee why would a company lie to save face, especially a shitty nip company like Cover?

>>37877663

>>37877782
Too prideful, she think everything must change for her not the other way around
That mentality really show as Kson

>>37877663
>>>/sp/125896043

>>37877754
Did she disclose any numbers? That would be nice, to have a reference of how much an unaffiliated streamer can make with merch
Have to be her self produced merch tho, she doesn’t get a cut of VShojo produced merch
>which is CRIMINAL, considering she is the creator of her own character and responsible for growing her own brand

>>37877825
>Headcanon
>Headcanon
Thanks for your opinion Cover employee

>>37877102
There's only one box and it's called HoloBox nijinigger-kun

wtf! why is goth koyori harassing the avex girls?

More clip numbers.
Look for the other posts for which streams are clipped.
Split today is 18.8M(+810k) HL to 12.6M(+490k) NJ.

>IRyS getting a huge burst of subs from her 2.0 reveal
Hm, if the holoEN box really is that big why weren't they already subbed to IRyS?

>>37877663

>>37877782
>They said how much they respected me, and how much they loved my content, so um, they're so nice. Pog, yeah.
She unironically said this, anon. That alone should tell you that her ego and desire for validation is pretty big.

>>37877878
Graph.

>>37877879
Fugly before but now cute and sexy succubus

>>37877624
>Succeeds in moving the industry towards a paradigm where Hololive are a walled garden and everyone else interacts among each other freely.
>Is now in a position where she doesn't fit into either side and now has to blame it on others.

Poetry.

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>37877878
Split today is 6.1M(+220k) HL to 2.7M(+220k) NJ.

>>37877782
I mean it might have something to do with getting harassed by the chinks for nearly the entire time while also getting chinks to wheelbarrow the chat of everyone she collabed with.
You might not remember it but it was basically common practice to put chat into members only

>>37877754
>>CCV matters
>In /#/
Yeah. Anything else you need updated on, coping tatsukek, or would you like to just keep making up merch sale figures?

>>37877825

>>37877886
Need an update with the new face

Funny how someone praising Ame for overlapping IRyS got on the front page for /r/hololive.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/z5oaba/ame_is_the_best_hypeman_friend_she_stopped_what/

>>37877924

>>37877841
lmao fuckin indog just deleted that post

>>37877823
that's all nice bro but in the end all that matters is if those tourists stay

Laminus gold, ugh

>>37877741
Irys redesign reveal got 92k

>>37877950
Graph.

>>37877886
Qrd about pic?

>>37877782
Well anon, fact of the matter is that the vulgarity WAS her content.
Asacoco was her one shot at greatness, and it was great content for sure - until the 1.0 season ended, and her "creative freedom" got stifled.
Ever since her suspension she has been on a downward spiral, and I remember one of her terraria streams getting around 3k CCV (lower than present day Luna).

The EN collabs were hyped up because everyone though "finally, the Chinese spam has been mostly dead, time for her great return!" and was expecting more of her style of content but with the ENs instead of JPs. The announcement of "10 more collabs lined up" was very welcomed.

And then of course, the graduation announcement was made.

tatsunoko's shitposts here makes me unironically hate kson more and more.

Kek

>>37877958
Do you think she still regret it?

>>37877948
kek, leddit moment.

>>37877878
More clip numbers by Source.
EN's Food review still pulling views from somewhere. Otherwise, Pokemon still dominates, with 3D Lives still pulling views from shorts (including Laplus's recent anniversary).
Toya had an announcement but I can't read JP so idk what it's about. Irys also is pulling views, with a respectable number even with the half-day of marinating. Kobo also does well with ASMR I think, though it is more a zatsu from what I've seen.

>>37877925
Aiyaaaa so weak

>>37877974
google "Christine H McConnell" on reddit, hilarious post

>>37877823
>she made like $15k in SCs, 700+ members, 6k subs so far and her outfit reveal is already about to hit 500k views. That’s tourism mixed with actual attention.
She literally had a month of break otherwise those SC are about in line with first outfit SC numbers for high EN earners

>>37877786
Being 'the most famous' doesn't really count for shit when you aren't friends with literally anyone in the server and never made the effort to do so.

Even if the hosts are acting in accordance with Niji's wishes, they've chosen Niji because they're closer to the people involved and people like Nipple Boy mog her CCV.

>>37877995
cucked mindsets
ngmi

>>37877988
She probably does whenever sankisei are together on stage.

holoEN is going to start a massive incline after today right? It's gonna be 2020 all over again right?

>>37878014
KEK

>>37877786
Who? You mean Kiryuu Coco right? doxxfag

>>37878038

>>37877075
https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/z5vuuu/開始了_今日凌晨上海烏魯木齊中路示威者們要求警察放人被抓的示威者/

>>37878048
>Expecting EN to capitalize any kind of incline instead of debuffing it the next day

>>37877786
>The point is that kson is the most famous ARK player in Japan, period, and if they're not letting her in it means they're bowing to the chinks.
Really? I thought it was Coco.

>>37877955
Enna vs Irys schizo is a fucking indog. Whodduthunk?

>>37877925

>>37878048
Not really, just Irys and maybe a bit of updraft for whoever is friends with her.. which is Mori and Bae, which seems almost paradoxical at this point but whatever.

It seems she's making more inroads to JP than other EN girls lately in fact, so if anything she'll buff some JPs and more of their fans will rub off on her from the cross-pollination.

Gura and Ina also need to stop being dead to help bring a feeling of momentum back, and while Gura could come back soon I don't think Ina will.

>>37877995
>they can do whatever they want
Sheesh, cuckmates are proving themselves no better than cuckbeats.

>>37878076
You if this was Tempus, EN management would have a whole post-2.0 gameplan ready.

>>37877786
Coco or Kson?

>>37877708
>/vt/'s overall activity has only gone up or stayed steady the past year
ftr this isn't true
/vt/ had been steadily increasing in activity until july 22 and since then it's been on a continuous downward trend

>>37877741
Irys created a swarm of eunuchs today. Lui might struggle to compete.

>>37878126
>EN Management
>gameplan
I bet if there's ever a gameplan it would be collab with the girls

>>37878120
Disgusting

>>37877978
>expecting more of her style of content but with the ENs instead of JPs
Those people didn't even understand the appeal of the content in the first place then. That shit seemed retarded to me.

>>37878120
Hey that's not nice, please call them "teacucks" instead, otherwise, we'll confuse them with the pluscucks

>>37877092
Sasuga chinksanji

If China gained their freedom again under a new government and they can use Youtube freely, who will gain better numbers between holo and niji?

Unironically spat my drink out when I saw this thumbnail

>>37877337
orange dragon bad

>>37877879
do you guys really sub to every holo? i only sub to people i actually, plus i'll give pity subs to indie and small corpos.

>>37878138
Would have thought the Mori yab would be more noticeable, board was moving fast then.

>>37878204
Holos because Nijis are already in Chinkland.

>>37878236
Holy KEK

>>37878234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-gW-iI1eAo

>>37878204
Well they hated Holo over Coco and the Taiwan thing, but if they suddenly stopped caring so much about that if their warhawk conditioning was broken from a reformed/reclining/collapsed CCP, maybe they'd give it a fair shake again.

Bear in mind China has an issue with there being too many males in the population and not enough girls, you'd think that means more otaku types who just find solace in 2D girls but I dunno, we'll see.

>>37877782
> why cant she adjust her contents like the rest of holo after the holocaust
I can’t properly attribute the quote, but it is said that
>comedy is one mad man in a sane world, or one sane man in a mad world
The meat, the very heart of Coco material was being that “mad man in a sane world”.
Here is an example
>Luna English class
https://youtu.be/VJ6a2NTWkPo
That’s the type of thing that landed like a bomb back then, not because being crass is something unique but because a 0 years old baby which never breaks character dropping f bombs is the exact whiplash that makes comedy great.

The thing is: up until the holocaust and the chinkout COVER was running a very lean operation with the girls and a staff (outnumbered by the girls) surviving out of donations and ad revenue for the most part.

From the Curry Mesh collab on
https://youtu.be/3QJD9iekpDQ
which happened October 11 2020 (smack in the middle of the eye of the chinkout hurricane) two things happened
1) COVER found a way out of the mess they were: they could succeed, but they would have to professionalize their operation and become “ad friendly” to the ***japanese*** sponsorship market (that qualification is important)
2) A lot of the “leeway” they had with regards to the girls behavior was no more, specially with respect to permissions and public image

Most of the girls could find a new niche but Coco? She was bruised by the chinkout, blacklisted by half the industry including her very own EN branch and couldn’t possibly continue being the “mad man in a crazy world”.

She was better off leaving on a high note than withering and dying as she was already in process.

>>37877337
KEK

>>37878245
*sub to people I actually watch

>>37877786
KSon? She barely plays Ark. Coco's the most popular one.

>>37878264
Chinks are too much of a pussy to start a revolution, dream on.

>>37877741
IRyS yeeted Laplus and is currently staring down Lui and the rest of Holo X.

>>37878245
I sub to those that I don't hate

>>37878321

>>37878177
Hard to tell how it would have gone tbqh. Her first collab with the rest of Myth ended up being her last.

>>37878138
> until july 22 and since then it's been on a continuous downward trend
kek, it might be some sort of coincidence or “spurious correlation” but DAMN if every chart isn’t showing a downward trajectory starting at that exact approx week.
Tempus and iLUNA were really a one two punch in the audience guts

>>37878138
Can you guys read charts or posts holy shit
The guy said /vt/‘s activity has gone up or stayed steady for the past year. That’s 100% accurate and you can literally see it on the chart. Months before the spike, you can see it was steady at around 60k posts. Tempus/Sana graduation happened, spike occurs, activity increases to above 60k, summer and anniversaries end and it slowly makes its way back to 60k posts.

Where the fuck is the inaccuracy in that? IT’S AT WHERE ITS BEEN THE ENTIRE YEAR. THAT MEANS STEADY ANON.

>>37878355
The inaccuracy is because of his interpretation, read his post instead of sperging out. He's saying the posters are still here, just posting in non-holo threads. But the graph clearly shows that there was an influx of posters up until the summer, and then they slowly left, they did not stay on the board.

>>37878109
At this point what is the % chances of an Ina graduation, Ina return then grad tour within a year and a full recovery?

>>37878321
>gura slipped to the second page
Has this ever happened before?

>>37878406
????
Because there was a homo debut, a graduation, 2 gen anniversaries and multitudes of drama that made people show up? And now things are calm and nothing much to discuss until things start up again?

What retards here call incline is 90% of the time just game and timeslot choice

>>37878138
>Tempus killed /vt/ too
Damn, hololive is the entire EN vtuber industry. Omega's head should be put on a pike.

>>37878433
Pretty fucking high I'd say

>>37878204
Holo, duh.

>>37878260
Already 5k waiting room tho

>>37878236

>>37878453
yeah, last time she was out the whole month

>>37878498
100k stream?

>>37878275
>She was better off leaving on a high note than withering and dying as she was already in process.

I don't think many realize here that towards the end of her days before the shock announcement, she had fallen to 3rd in views in Gen4 and with Towa's darkhorse incline probably would be just barely above Luna nowadays if she had decided to stay and things didn't improve.

>>37878477
>90% of the time just game and timeslot choice
but being a good judge of that is a skill, a skill that gets treated here like you're cheating or something

>>37878498
Pretty sure that’s because it got pushed back and on top of it, there are far far less streams happening today than yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnpoTPNCTY
watch [日本VSコスタリカ] with Salome, too bad Holos don't care about football

>>37878592

>>37878592
Salome's stream is abysmal, she actually doesn't know anything about football

>>37878459
>Because there was a homo debut, a graduation, 2 gen anniversaries and multitudes of drama that made people show up?
...And can you point out where any of those show up on the chart? You're not looking at the data objectively, you're trying to fit a narrative to the data. Where's does the data correspond to any of those events other than the homo debut?
Here's an example. You see that huge spike that goes off the chart? That's the Council debut. But after the spike, the graph went back to the normal trend, with maybe a slightly increase baseline. 2 gen anniversaries last what, like a day? Are they really going to affect the overall trend? I would say the same about Sana's graduation - people never cared about her. And multitudes of drama? This board has been a drama dump since the start, you can't tell me there was more drama during the summer than right now.

>>37878592
>world cup ULTRA buff
>sub 20k
GRIM

>>37878592
>less numbers than niji ojisan
ngmi

>>37878569
Most holos don't actually chose the games they want to play based on numbers

Why she like this?

>>37877879
You don't appreciate how ugly IRyS 1.0 was. It was a filter so strong that even debuffson stood silent in awe and envy.

>>37878592
I'll watch with Sakurako thank you.

>>37878592
I wouldn't care about football either if my country was being outplayed by fucking costa rica
Shameful display

>>37878204
Honestly, if China is under a new rule and they can do shit freely on the global internet, what kind of advantage does Nijisanji have afterwards when they rely on China so much that they stopped encouraging collabs with Hololive after 2020? The male chinks would go watch hololive, the female chinks can gush about korean boys more freely. More opportunities for china-cover collabs would be opened. Anycolor had 2 years to get good CN sponsorships and all they got was chink game sponsorships, no big deal ones. I don't want to see riku going buddy-buddy with Yagoo and cover again because their company is gonna be a sinking ship.

Why is Yagoo on Forbes when he has not created a success for the past 2 years?

Chloe could've been huge in an earlier gen. reminds me of non-menhera Matsuri.

>>37878686
Myth was his last success.

>>37878686
I guess maintaining success is just as important as finding it in the first place. How often do retards blow all their money after winning the lottery.

It's absolutely wild that IRyS got a higher peak on her redesign reveal than on her debut as the highly anticipated first new EN member after Myth

https://twitter.com/utakike_agqr/status/1596790943008653316?s=20&t=ihH8235wN5JTWdHCMuP7GQ
Is /news/ anchor still a thing?
Mori, IRyS and A-Chan doing the Holo radio show

>>37877115
well she needs this after she got bullied extensively. what are you autistic?

New anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8feDwm0ylbQ

>>37878738
fuck Mori

>>37878686
koyori is a success anon

>>37878646
that's huge for watchalong number, most people are watching on Abema right now

>>37878764
I’m working on it

>>37878686
>Alex, I'll take shit this anon don't know for 500
What is HoloFes 3?

>>37878686
i mean, how'd you know hololive isn't a success?

>>37878769
she's just average anon, they mean star level

>>37878652
She watch football

https://twitter.com/countersidegbl/status/1596670141911236609?s=21&t=7y3y57ItKUmEoherZqwuLA

Another game collab for HoloEN? Has NijiEN ever appeared in a game? Why is it always HoloEN?

>>37878801
HoloEN is more popular than NijiEN

>>37878737
Here’s a fun fact
Her outfit reveal in 8 hours time has gotten more views than Aqua’s outfit reveal, Korone’s bday live, Subaru’s anniversary live, Noel’s birthday live and Laplus’ anniversary live all got in 24 hours.

>>37878592
You just know Niji only do this for number

>>37878793
I guess literally none for JP after gen3 then.
For EN its just Gura, and ID Kobo?

>>37878686
It's okay riku, you still among the U30 Millionare!

>>37878236
10/10 thumbnail clickbait there, simply amazing

>>37878812
That's just because of cultural differences

>>37878738
/News/anon died a month ago

>>37878823
pretty much, coco would count for jp if not for the whole thing

>>37877782
yeah she should have stayed
by this time the wheelbarrows would have been over
but i guess she was too stupi I mean too american to stay. but japanese autismo corporate bullshit is also to blame here so

Superstars in each holo gen

Myth: All of them
Council: Kronii, Mumei, Fauna

ID1: Moona
ID2: Ollie
ID3: Kobo

Gen 0: Miko, Suisei
Gen 1: Fubuki
Gen 2: Aqua, Subaru
Gen 3: Pekora, Marine, Rushia
Gen 4: Coco, Towa
Gen 6: Koyori

>>37878738
>Mori, IRyS and A-Chan doing the Holo radio show

>>37878801
nijiEN brought twitter numbers/exposure, holoEN brought money. That's why they sponsor nijiEN for the global launch but doing a skin collab with holoEN.

>>37878865
(you)

go away gen5schizo, shoo shoo

>>37878865
>Superstars
>Kronii
>Ollie
>Rushia
>Coco

>>37878652
Too bad, management is autistic about permission and there's also an army of antis who will report her if she ever do a watchalong. Her reactions should be hilarious

>>37878865
Project Hope: IRyS

>>37877280
>do they not have vaccines
They do but their vaccines suck ass. Only around 50% efficacy.

>>37878801
Where's VShojo?

>>37878892
>>37878903
You know you dont have to be first army to be considered superstars, dont you?

>>37878812
Anyone who's paying attention already knows EN is gigaculled

give it to me straight hagchads, can Lui win?

So I just saw the numbers for Irys, looks like a lot of HoloEN viewers are still there they are just dormant. HoloEN scene isn't dead yet.
>it was a weekend, HoloJP viewers were watching, tourists, etc.
That's still showing how much potential numbers HoloEN can get with the right content and hype. Not saying that all of those viewers should be present at the same time across streams, its not like there's always 150k combined views across HoloJP during primetime, but HoloEN should be able to bring up like half of those viewers at a time. The fact that it rarely ever happens indicates that the current lineup aren't delivering the kind of content to get even half of those viewers from Irys's stream to turn up regularly.

>>37878592
This is literally GFE with football, you're watching football with your retarded girlfriend who knows nothing about the sport.

>>37878980
Yes. I believe in the gigabuff guest lineup

>>37878801
Its only Myth. Alert us when they add Council into the game

>>37878980
Anything is possible but 92k is an incredibly high bar to pass and probably not in the cards. Very, very slim chances.

>>37878865
> no chloe despite her being the top supa earner in holo without gfe

>>37878980
I would kneel if she even surpasses yesterday, but then her model filters tourists quite hard
Prediction: 75k

>>37878909
Do they need permissions for a watchalong if they don't show anything on screen?

>>37878980
Low chance

wait, why isnt there any holos streaming at this hour? They're all watching football? Maybe the second half is more innteresting

>>37878980
>Not even half of IRyS waiting room
It's over

>>37878801
What the fuck is Counter Side and why should this no name gacha game matter when it's gonna die in a few months

>>37878980
possibly

>>37878686
hololive is more popular than ever sister

>>37878865
Here's the real list:

Superstars in each holo gen

Myth: Mori, Gura

ID3: Kobo

Gen 0: Miko, Suisei
Gen 1: Fubuki
Gen 2: Aqua, Subaru
Gen 3: Pekora, Marine
Gen 4: Coco

>>37879032
>Mori

>HoloEN box = 92k with 10 streamers, average of 9k per streamer
>HoloJP box = 150k with 30 streamers, average of 5k per streamer

>>37879014
They do

>>37879041
>Mori
Kys cuckbeat

>>37879041
Gamers....

>>37878937
you kinda do anon... you kinda do...

>>37879062
2021 mori was a superstar. 2022 mori is not.

>>37878801
Old news
They've been teasing out these little trailers for at least a week now

>>37879032
Whoever came up with Chloe's youtube channel name is a fucking idiot.

Why is HoloFes4 not including HoloExpo? Did the low turnout this year scare Cover from doing another one?

>>37879062
She's objectively a superstar. I'd argue she was more important that Gura for spreading the Hololive brand in the west.

>>37879032
not with the mori debuff. that's too strong, not even pekora can counter it.

>>37879041
Gen 5......

>>37878980
low chance since even her 3d debut was around 90k

>>37879091
Who?

>>37879083
What the fuck are you talking about

>>37879084
OK now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. yes she was a big deal during the rise of HoloEN but Gura has millions of fans who aren't even subbed to her. Multiple millions

>>37879046
>>37879089
Careful or you guys will summon the doxbeat

>>37879084
>superstar
Alright arguable because of her musical contribution on and prior to 2021
>I'd argue she was more important that Gura for spreading the Hololive brand in the west.
kys cuckbeat

>>37879041
Holox.....

>>37879032
MAYBE if Mori's last and she beats Irys before that.

>>37878980
Unlikely, if she does though it proves just how much Laplus fucked up these past few months since a Lui gold today would have her mogging Laplus BIG TIME considering the totem pole in HoloX upon their debuts.

>>37879101
100k was her 3d debut

Holokeks status?

>>37878980
I mean it’s hard to say whether Laplus was just a debuff or what. Lui’s waiting room looks fine but at the same time, there’s like 30k+ less people watching streams now than there was yesterday. She’s got way more guests than Laplus but so did Noel and Korone and they didn’t make it to 90k. And it’s Lui, so that’s already a debuff of its own.

I really dunno. 92k is a high bar and IRyS seriously blew everyone’s expectations away. Lui would need to pull out some insane kino for it to happen

see how these retarded lists are always done by schizos and attract other schizos

>>37879084
Spreading? More like soiling by bringing in people with shit taste.

>>37879131
ENchads winning, JPkeks already preemptively coping

A lot of holo is watching football now...

>>37879131
Basking in the glorious light of IRyS

OK anon, question for you. What is more important. Finding super stars each gen no matter the cost or maintain healthy workplace where your super stars can prosper and grow while supporting those under then. Example, Pekora and PEBOT. Choose wisely here.

>>37879143
>noooo bringing in numbers is bad
retard

>>37879041
Wasn't Korone pretty big in 2020? Meme clipping gold mine, decent views, and sub race to 1m

>>37879154
Sounds like a cope from someone who watches a gen with no superstars lmao

>>37878980
not gonna happen, football watchers are gonna be dead drunk. I'd say 70k max

>>37878995
So, potential HoloEN viewers are still there but the real problem is that HoloEN is boring?

>>37879154
those two options doesn't relate to each other. One is scouting, the other is support. Cover maintains a balance of both

>>37879154
theoretically adding members regardless of super star status is good as long as they don't occupy the same niche as previous members, niche fillers are good

>>37879009
Not her model
Her voice

>>37879185
The problem is that there are no streams because Cover was retarded and didn't debut at least 3 more EN gens in the past 2 years

>>37878995
Her aftertalk is doing pretty great #s too, 230k views and 23k likes 4 hours since archival. Have to go way back to her 1st Anniversary stream 4 months ago to find one larger at 270k. Will be curious if she will make the most of this second chance for establishing herself.

>>37879160
An initial increase in tourists are worth shit when they scare away those who would had become fans.

>>37879185
Yes, adding tempus instead of en3 was also a stupid move

OK IRyStochads, don’t get too cocky. IRyS may be at the absolute pinnacle of EN just beneath Gura, but remember your humble origins as a hardworking fanbase who loved your oshi against all odds. Be kind to those less fortunate.

>>37879227
newfags are going to ruin that.

>>37879227
No, they deserve to get shit on for choosing a shit oshi

>>37879154
I mean you need a delicate balance of both. You don’t gain much debuting many mid tier talents because you need stars to pierce the algorithms and get their names out there. But you also don’t get much from having 1 big name and a bunch of nobodies unless you have a system in place like what holo does, where even small fry find success. The problem comes from sustainability at that point and whether a star can hold themselves up without help. And that’s where I say you do need a balance there. You need support around you so that there’s generated interest across the board but you need a big gun to have interest in the first place

>>37879141
Reminder that IRyS is JP so its a JP win either way

>>37879227
IRyStocrats might be the least offensive ones amongst all of holoEN.
Ame overlapping her today did mindbreak some of them though kek

>>37879227
What are you on about???
We are pro holo unity.
I will be happy to see Lui get good numbers today

>>37879165
Korone was bigger than Coco, Pekora and Marine during the early Summer months of Covid Boom Era. Ironically enough, Coco may have been the 'bridge' but Korone is the one who benefited the most from overseas fans flooding in.

>>37878980
>blocks your path

>>37879320
This, Lui might even manage to pass 80k if half of the IRyStochads that showed up for IRyS earlier come for Lui too.

>>37879227
>IRyS may be at the absolute pinnacle of EN just beneath Gura
Let's wait until her numbers settle before setting yourselves up for grudgeposts
Seething sisters will use this as evidence against her if she slips up

>>37879185
The problem is this is the first exiting thing to happen to EN ever since the myth off colab arc. Which at the end of the day was something the girls did.
The last Event Cover really gave the girls were fucking Council Kimonos in January.

>>37879165
she is still popular
just not ccv/number wise with all the debuff retro shit

>>37879165
Korone was THE EOP holo. But Pekora and Marine beats her in CCV. But she had the most subs.

>>37879348
>IRyStochads
So all it takes to get that stamp is to watch one of her streams. kek

>>37879216
>Endurance till 900k
>Ring fit
>Karaoke
>ASMR
At least we can't say she isn't trying, i believe in her making the best out of it.

>>37879185
Tourists want hype events. They're not there for solo streams. At most they are clip watchers.

>>37879185
That or some members have turned off a portion of the HoloEN viewers from showing up regularly. In its heyday id say SNOT having their own pov streams could get 50k combined live viewers but now would probably require some of the other stragglers to be on, or perhaps Ina being alive would be enough if perhaps a portion of Takos are just not gonna be turning up with her being offline.

Rui already 9k 30 minutes to go, she got a chance but 90k+ is for high mid tier holo

>>37879227
I just hope this leads to more collabs between my 2 favorite ENs, and more Fan art of them together.

>>37879371
Well...it's either her or Fauna being #2 behind Gura right now considering the recline of all the rest

>>37879227
Hey, we only hate the Nijiniggers and Vshoho coomers.
IRyS fans like and support some of the most underrated Holos like Mel, Sora, AZKi.
Also after watching IRyS's numbers today I am more than satisfied today. I won't be sad even if Lui manages to surpass IRyS today

>>37879137
>I mean it’s hard to say whether Laplus was just a debuff or what.
People are forgetting that football hype is still high and most people are dead drunk. If you're excepting good numbers this week from Holo X 3Ds I wouldn't really count on that.

>>37879398
So no 3D or live?

>>37879408
IRyS was already at 15k at this point

>>37879408
To be fair the waiting room is not gonna be a good indicator for this one cause of it being delayed by an hour cause of the world cup.

>>37879435
Last samurai cope

>>37879446
Nothing announced yet, probably not until HoloFes4

>>37879446
Not even Flare and Aruran announced their 3D immediately

too many EU Towa posters on /sp/ holy shit

>>37879446
Anon please, redjuice-papa needs some time to rest.

>>37879460
>>37879408
Nah IRyS had 10k waiting at 30 minutes. Lui is doing fine here dor her waiting room. It’s what comes after the live starts that matters here though since this could just be people afking ahead of time while they watch the world cup. Same with the fact that she’s not a buff hag line korone and lamy. She’s just a hag who associates herself around others

>>37879408
Feeling like 70-75k for Lui unless she pulls out a hidden ace surprise.

>>37879227
I love Fauna and Mumei
I like Kiara, Baelz, Amelia(no matter what people say) and Gura
I am fine with Ina and Kronii
The one that I don't like is Mori
With JP, I actually love all of them except for Chloe because she makes me harder than IRyS and so I have an obligation to not like her

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All me with VPN

I just want to see some hag hips again

>>37879507
kek as if he could ever do anything in 3D

>>37879556
based anon

>>37879568
I feel like i have seen a lot of soundposts fail lately, did something change?

>>37879501
I can't remember, wasn't Flare's redesign kinda spoiled by a sponsorship showing her 3D version?

>>37877222
it's a good learning point for future hololive world tours hololive, solo or group. AFA did a great job accommodating the required tech as well

>>37879568
Have this in consolation anon.

>>37879546
seriously though, the orca has to be a semen demon or something

>>37879568
>>37879620
i can't see anything but a turkey wrapped in a trash bag every time someone posts these

Germany paid a lot to costa rica to hold as long as they can against Japan, that's my rrat. If they don't get a goal, $1M. 1 Goal - $500k, 2 goals. $200k.

>>37878996
whats the point if i can't beat her ass when my favorite team looses?

>>37878980
I hope not.. i want EN gold for once bro..

>>37878995
Yeah they should just have redesigns that took over a year to make every week to get big numbers, why didn't they think of that earlier?

>>37878801
>nihisanhi
you will only get cum

SRY HAGBROS BUT I WANT IRYS LEWDS TODAY
>SRY HAGBROS BUT I WANT IRYS LEWDS TODAY
SRY HAGBROS BUT I WANT IRYS LEWDS TODAY
>SRY HAGBROS BUT I WANT IRYS LEWDS TODAY
SRY HAGBROS BUT I WANT IRYS LEWDS TODAY
>SRY HAGBROS BUT I WANT IRYS LEWDS TODAY

>>37879647
Okay faggot

>>37879721
Doesn’t have to be redesigns. How about we have something, anything to look forward to at all that aren’t just male collabs and stuff the talents have to put together themselves?
What exactly does EN management even do, unironically

>>37879721
Last samurai cope

>>37879782
>How about we have something, anything to look forward to at all that aren’t just male collabs and stuff the talents have to put together themselves?
Like what?

STOP DEFENDING ALREADY AAAAAA, COSTA RICA, YOU'RE GONNA GO HOME ANYWAY

>>37879782
HoloEN is like Nintendo of America: they don't do shit.

>>37879789
Nijinigger seething

>Japan loses to Costa Rica
>HoloJP loses to IRyS
KINO

>>37879806
You jinxed it retard

>>37879806
Japan 3 - 1 Spain

>>37879806
This post didn't age well