/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>37759765
The mask slipped for a few moments and she revealed herself as the cunt that she really is. She deserves way worse.

>>37759765
Honestly she’s lucky schizos don’t bash her more. She literally believed twitter idiots over actual hololive fans

>>37759765
Why you are asking forgiveness from the people of this SITE?

>>37759765
I did move on, to watching chuuba that actually appreciate their audience.

>>37759765
No. Stop posting this trying to get people to forgive her. It's over

Can't wait for Vesper to come back so they can do a part 2 of that collab

>>37759765
I was never angry, not her fault this board is comprized of retarded schizos.

>>37759765
There's no going buddy.

>>37759963
What are you doing in an asylum?

>>37759765
Why should i forgive someone who admitted they hate me?

>>37760011
Seeing autists seethe over women who sould never give them the time of day amuses me.

>>37760209
Unlike everyone else in your life they were honest. :^)

>>37759851
>actual hololive fans
>(You)
RUMAO

>>37760230
Well, that definitely sounds like sane behavior. GUARDS

>>37760294
Yes I’ve been watching for 3 years, kronii fucked up.

>>37759765
No, I will make this prostitute graduate :)

>>37759765
After seeing the grovelling that the production kawaii girl is doing towards her members I think the solution to a situation like this actually is to just memoryhole the whole thing and carry on with no further male stuff if that is what she has decided to do.

You don't actually want her to make a pathetic transparent appeal to her unicorns like pic related, it was clearly written through gritted teeth, once you are at that point, the fantasy that she relies on you and cares about you as a supportive presence is well and truly fucked.

You forever know she sees you as jealous and insecure (which is already bad enough) but you the viewer cannot help but lose respect for her for willingly typing out this hostage statement.
Kronies have kind of already gone through this once, if she has truly changed her mind she should categorically NOT apologise and just move on from the whole thing, the unicorns will regrow their majestic horns.

>>37759851
She did nothing of the sort, she just wants to make friends and have fun with other people

>>37759765
She will never suck your dick or acknowledge you

Can't forget she's a tranny though.

>>37760355
If longevity is what made someone a 'better' in a field, less people would be complaining about having demented oldies in office

>>37759765
just change to the small corpo Kroniies, IdolEN Juga Unagi or Cunny Connects Erina Makina

>>37759765
I only know vague details of what happened. I come here, pretend to know what is going on, formulate my shitposts based on what the conversations are going on, then leave for days till I remember I need to shitpost here for giggles. I will always side with the smug side who is winning because I am totally unaware of who and why they are winning and I don't have time to care.

>>37759765
Not a kluck, but how do you "forget" she has more energy and laughs more with guys around? I think Council has better unity and thus better collabs than Myth, but in Kronii's case, seeing clips and some streams of her girl collabs and male ones is night and day shit.
It's like when I was a rosecuck in denial that Rosemi pushed away the Niji girls who are frankly infatuated with her and clearly enjoys male collabs more. I mean, nowadays she doesn't even hide her Ike lust anymore.

>>37759765
No she chose to antagonize us so its only right we return the favor

>>37760624
The other girls aren't funny. Watch clips of her collab with Polka and you'll hear her laugh just as loud

>>37760480
>groveling
>never apologized
DYRBI?

>>37760624
Ah, fogor my overall point: you don't "forget" that shit. You either ignore it and become a cuck, stop the monetary support and only watch her alone or with girls, or just drop her and cut her off altogether.

OP, this was my thought process about Hololive right before all the male collab spamming.
>HoloEN feels kind of stagnant. It might be good to debut EN3 soon. Huh? StarsEN? Tempus? Wow, /vt/ is panicking. Whatever, the girls aren’t stupid enough to try to turn this into NijiEN, they’ll probably be sensible and be like Fubuki.
After the collab spamming:
>Do these morons have any clue what makes people watch HoloEN? They’ve just been stumbling blindly into success without any idea what makes people like them. Holy shit am I not switching back from the small corpos I’ve been watching now.
So, how exactly am I supposed to “forgive” or forget that? How do I forget that their content is mediocre, their popularity is purely based on brand name (just like Connor said…), and that their success has led to complacency and they don’t have literal bankruptcy and graduation to keep them motivated like with small corpos?

>>37760480
>I think the solution to a situation like this actually is to just memoryhole the whole thing and carry on
Wrong, you should actually make the talent apologize in a battered wife RP ASMR in order to emotionally manipulate the audience into not being faggots over a single follow on Twitter.

>>37760565
Uh, no way. Not after that fart, no.

>>37760480
The unicorns should stay away so she doesn't have be paranoid about every single thing she says or does blowing up into drama

>>37760710
>their success has led to complacency
Westerners like to do that a lot. Accept your new Eastern overlords.

>>37759765
She acted unhinged around Tempus and regrets it. She prefers chill games anyways.

>>37760740
If the unicorns stay away, she has no career.

she like a few of the other ENs jumped in to make them actually feel like part of the company like good coworkers. tempus found their (very separate) audience and are doing well. i dont think shes even mentioned their names in like nearly 2 months

>>37760859
kek good one

>>37760480
Kronii has handled it like a champ desu. She doesn't talk about Tempus, chat doesn't bring them up and she's gone back to her pre-Tempus content, but with even less collabs. This is what I always wanted as a day 1 Kronie and I couldn't be happier.

>>37760866
They are contractors working at the same company not coworkers

>>37760678
>And I do apologise that I handled it wrong
Also the tone of the whole statement come on anon
>>37760715
Kino

Kronii does not deserve your support. She never did. Even before she revealed that she hated her fans, she was always a lazy no effort slacker.

>>37760624
You don't understand her then. She prefers the cool and chill persona; she has in her solo content and collabs with the girls.

She avoids games that make her heated and she was unhinged in a lot of her Tempus collabs which she doesn't like.

>>37760967

her 2 weeks after returning from the september break was the strangest arc, but good to see return to form

>>37761100
That's why she deserves it; she's just like me

Wait what happened?

>>37759765
>people forget the Tempus collabs
>remembers the genderfluid rm stuff instead

>>37761159
What other lies do you try and convince yourself of?

>>37760670
Again, Kronii was unhinged in that collab. She was anxious loud, and even started drinking on stream to calm her nerves. Yes, she had fun, but she doesn't like acting like that.

>>37760899
It's Kawaii, he's not wrong.

>>37761595
Ah I was talking about Kronii

>>37761159
Whatever helps sleep at night, anon.

Forgive who?

>>37759765
Production NTR deflection thread

>>37760480
>You don't actually want her to make a pathetic transparent
you don't know that
>You forever know she sees you as jealous and insecure
well, I am

>>37761356
Lies? 0. She said this herself, she wants to be seen as cool and chill, that's the persona and content that she wants for herself.

Being loud and unhinged, might be cathartic, but she always cringes about it afterwards.

>>37759887
>>37759920
>>37760209
>>37760667
>>37761100
All of you have pride and respect for yourself

>>37761924
>well, I am
Yeah same here but the idea is you hope whatever oshi you have doesn't put you in a situation where you have to broadcast that fact by sperging out about males collabs or interactions, hence my saying it ruins the fantasy.

If your chuuba has a implicit understanding of who she is catering to, they will not make that kind of mistake in the first place, or at the very least course correct afterwards - I am saying to memoryhole the situation if it was not that bad in the first place is the best outcome for all parties involved and lets both viewer and streamer retain a little dignity.

>>37759765
Has she apologized?

>>37762160
I don't actually love her. She will play the role, or she's nothing. If she offends me in some way, I want her to shame herself in exchange for forgiveness. Or not. I can always be replaced.

>>37759765
>>37754209
Take notes, Kronii.

>>37759765
Too late for forgiveness. Her rot has spread to other corpos now.

>>37762377
Wait so what do you get out of it if it's not love or affection?
If neither of those things are driving you why even care about males in the first place or need her to shame herself, is it just a control thing?
I don't understand this perspective at all speaking as someone who wants no males anywhere near my oshi

>>37762160
> the best outcome for all parties involved and lets both viewer and streamer retain a little dignity
That sends a bad message, which is that you don’t have to have any idea what you’re doing, since everyone will forget about it immediately afterwards. That’s fine for minor mistakes, not for something as obvious as realizing that not even Tempus fans like the collab spam and that the real reason you don’t constantly collab with males has nothing to do with unicorns.
Also, despite my wording, I seriously doubt most people who left are purposely trying to punish her. They just realized they didn’t like her content anymore and left. You can’t make those people “forgive” Kronii because they’re not trying to punish her, they just realized they didn’t like her streams anymore and moved on.

>>37762220
She has the perfect opportunity to apologize when making new years resolutions.

>>37760967
It won't last. Should've left when you had the chance.

>>37762541
As a Tempus fan I didn't mind the collabs since the boys used to stream a lot back then so the collabs were only a small percentage of their streams and Kronii was always funny in them

>>37759765
Nope.

>>37762526
I'm like the people who say they only see vtubers as entertainment, except what entertains me is the performance of gfe. In practical terms, I'm not all that different from an actual gachikoi except I have no concern or forgiveness in my heart. This is the bottom of the autism barrel and I can't be saved.

>>37759765
I won't watch someone that doesn't understand what I, as a viewer want and completely ignores critisisms. She can do what she wants, but I'll keep disliking her.

>>37762666
I did briefly during her two-week suspension/break. Tried out Kawaii, I like the girls a lot. I membered 4 of them, but it wasn't the same and I went back to Kronii. I don't care if something happens in the future, what matters is if I am enjoying the content now and I am.

>>37760565
I love how people always sell said small corpo as "Kronii, but better", and
that's not even wrong because it really is that easy to be better than her.

>>37762859
Isn't a high bar at all. EN overall is so much worse than most JPs.

>>37760967
>kronii has handled it like a champ
>she behaved so stupidly and unprofessionally that the official holo had to make a public statement
if you want someone that handled male collab like a champ look at mumei, never addressed drama, never mentioned homos after that collab. this is how someone who cares about his work and the company he works for behaves. kroni will act stupid again at one point it's just a matter of time

>>37760526
And she can’t do that off stream? That excuse makes no sense…

>>37762821
You're just setting yourself up for more pain in the future. I left her and I've never felt better.

>>37762541
>That sends a bad message, which is that you don’t have to have any idea what you’re doing, since everyone will forget about it immediately afterwards
I guess I can kind of see this perspective, but do you actually think the stuff in that unarchived members stream helped elucidate the reasons for her? She seemed just as confused as before consulting her fanbase as far as I could tell, even drawing entirely wrong conclusions from the whole thing and trying to reassure her fans that "they are not my type don't worry" "do you really think I would date my coworkers?" like that was the issue in the first place.

I think a combination of numbers, seeing donations from whales dry up and possibly an explanation behind the scenes from a girl who knows what she is doing or management is a far more effective and less humiliating strategy than fans sperging out in vod comments and sending condom money superchats.

If her behaviour changes after that, fans who left will return and there will be less bad blood overall between chuuba and fanbase.
>>37762772
Well ogey anon, can't say I understand but we all get something different from this after all

I cannot fucking believe the amount of discussion this bitch gets. She is utterly devoid of talent or drive and her content has always been mid as fuck. The only reason she's even relevant is because she had a Wada model, if her model were by anyone else, except maybe Takeuchi, literally nobody would give a fuck.

>>37759765
Once she stops collabing with tempus for good then sure, ill go back to her, but it hasn’t been long enough to tell if she’s gonna do it again, so i will continue to hate on her until i can tell she’s done for good

>>37762949
She could but why should she? If she has an idea for a collab with Vesper I don't want her to drop it because of a few unicorns. It's good content

>>37763098
She's naturally talented and funny and has one of the best voices in HoloEN, but she also has a unique streaming style that's different from the usual vtuber that likes to go on tangents and avoid dead air at all cost and react loudly to everything, so that has a certain appeal

>>37762931
Yeah, you don't watch her.
1) She asked management to do that. (Revealed this in a member's stream).
2) I am talking about the last 6 weeks. Yes, the 2-3 weeks after her break were weird.

>>37763118
As a non-unicorn, that’s fine with me in theory. But I also thought, prior to Tempus’ debut, that collabing with males would mean occasional collabs, not constant collabs while maintaining their previous low rate of streams.
I’m not opposed to an idea for a kino stream that happens to include males (aka what Bae’s been doing this whole time). Except given how terribly they shut the bed previously, even people like me won’t be able to see something like that without going, “Oh shit, here we go again…” even if we don’t intend to.

>>37763198
>naturally talented and funny
That statement alone is funnier than anything Kronii has ever done.
>best voices in HoloEN
When she cares enough to try, so that would be her debut, that one Bond Level video, and nothing else. Most of the time it's the disgusting just woke up dragged on voice with tons of vocal fry.
>unique streaming style that's different from the usual vtuber that likes to go on tangents and avoid dead air at all cost
Not being entertaining is hardly unique. There are tons of shitty streamers out there without the Hololive brand and Wada model.

>>37763198

not hating or entirely disagree but she can be quiet in her solo gaming streams, which is fine

>>37763198
Only EN fans are weird about the dead air shit. It's normal for chuubas, especially those who stream for long hours like Kaela, Watame and Luna.

>>37763381
You are being disingenuous or are on crack if you think Kronii is anywhere near as entertaining as Kaela,Watame or Luna.

>>37759765
No, because not only is she gonna definitely spam collabs with them again at some point, but this >>37759810
She already showed her real opinions about her fans and the company she works for. She's solely in it for the money but the problem is she's not even entertaining to begin with.

>>37763486
I think Kronii is more entertaining than all of those three. We have different tastes in chuubas, it's really just a 'you' problem, ultimately.

>>37763494
>Do you guys not have female friends?
No I fucking don't Kronii. That's why I watch Vtubers. People with female friends don't want girls pretending to be anime girls. People with female friends don't fucking buy your body pillow, oppai mousepad, and voice pack. You know, the shit that funded your own house and new lifestyle? Female friends would roundly mock people that buy that shit. How are you so fucking dense and clueless as to your audience? That's like running a gun store and being surprised your customers vote Republican.

>>37763630
>Female
>Friends

LMAOOOOOOOO

>>37763381
It’s not even EN fans making that point, it’s the same schizos spamming these bad faith threads all over the catalog saying “you forgive her, right” or “why don’t you watch her anymore” since they know their anti shit won’t get deleted since mods only care about Mori dox anyways.

>>37763630

does she actually own the house? thought good real estate in canuckistan was impossible even for her

>>37759765
>forgive and forget
We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expecto Patronum.

>>37763748
It's Kronies, Infinity is so fucking incestuous and gay its pretty much a discord, although they have those tok. They all call each other by name and some of them actually miss some of the "personalities" that left. I'm not even joking, there are plenty of Kronies that love Kronies more than Kronii herself, although she's boring as fuck so that's not hard to do.

>>37763630
The fact people still pretend that line was being directed at her fanbase as a whole when it was targeted explicitly at the handful of people sending her harassing SCs (even acknowledging them as “new faces” since non-members barely donate to her) just goes to show once brainrot takes root here, it’s impossible to get rid of.

>>37763630
As someone that doesn't even have friends, much less of the opposite sex, the point was that you should be able to imagine that interacting with a coworker in a collab doesn't mean you're dating them. She was responding to comments that said things like "Have fun with your new boyfriend."
Don't get too hung up over it

>>37763998
Directed or not it still hit a good portion of her fanbase because she's a clueless fucking retard. She really genuinely thinks that the people watching her and buying her merch are all normalfags.

>>37763840
No, it seems she is renting an apartment

>>37764100
>She really genuinely thinks that the people watching her and buying her merch are all normalfags.
You must work at a movie theater because that is some excellent projecting

>>37763998
>just because she called them niggers doesn't make her racist, it was only directed at the haters!
Retard.

>>37764100
I would like some candy and popcorn

>>37763998
She said friends of the opposite sex. She knows that she has some lesbian fans who weren't happy about it either.

>>37759765
no

>>37764418
Let’s not pretend she had lesbians trying to get under her skin sending her supas trying to antagonize her

>>37763840
No, she's renting. She talks about never being able to afford a house and having to work until she's 80. Now, Ina owns a house and probably lives in the same city as her, but Ina's family is also rich.

>>37759765
>she pretty much acts the same as she always does
yeah, she can't talk to her boytoy since he got suspended, so she went back to normal.
we need to get rid of the rest of tempus so the other whores get in line

>>37764575
Not SC's they complain on Twitter instead.

>>37763200
If you had a problem with her because of that, continuing to watch her now is just weird

>>37760565
Based

>>37764631
I have enjoyed the last 6 weeks of content; it isn't weird at all.

>>37764575
Those probably just dropped her quietly

>>37759765
NO I WILL KILL OURO KRONIG AFTER I KILL YOU OP

>>37764664
It's not really my place to comment on it as a new kronie, but man the last 6 weeks have been great and it feels like she's doing better than ever based on the things she's shared.

>I wish that I could turn back time 'Cause now the guilt is all mine Can't live without the trust from those you love I know we can't forget the past You can't forget love and pride Because of that, it's killing me inside

Captcha: DN KYS M

>>37763200
As a member, I call bullshit on point 1: she hasn’t touched the subject at all on stream since she came back from that one 2 week break, which is honestly the smart move at this point.

>>37759765
>can we all just forget the whole tempus debacle and move on?
Not until she apologizes. Which will be literally never. So no we can't move on and forget it.

>>37764908
Watch the working stream, she talks about it there.

>>37759765
If she let me pin her down and kick her head till i'm satisfied, i'll forgive. Until there, kys cluck.

>>37764908
She never has to touch the subject again. Everyone already knows she is a whore Tempiss accessory now.

>>37765046
Timestamp it then, surely you can do that as a member, can’t you?

>>37761159
So she wants to act all composed but can't control herself in front of dick. That's hot, but it's not my dick so I guess its cuckholdry

>>37760967
>She doesn't talk about Tempus
And here we go again with the lying whore. A promise that lasted for some minutes.
https://files.catbox.moe/5s5du8.mp4

>>37759765
Here's your (you), guy pretending there were more than 5 people mad about kronii talking to a man

>>37765491
I am talking about the last 6 weeks you retard.

Janitor is in cahoots with the Discord troons. This is the 500045903459305th thread with this fucking Kronii image and a provocative "Let's just forgive her!" when nobody gives a fuck about this 2 months old dead subject. Just ban these people already, all they do is try to fan the flames of last year's forest fire in the middle of winter.

>>37763198
I agree, she definitely has a nice model. But I don't know if I agree with the other parts of your post.

>>37765525
she lost around 1k of her usual viewers after the drama

>>37763998
You do know when you make a general station that somewhat applies to a large amount of people. That large amount of people will feel offended even if the statement was only got a small minority.
Same shit happened Ame, Ina, And that mermaid girl from nijisanji. These vtubers either unintentionally let their loathing out or they're retarded and need a stricter management to make sure they don't make stupid statements.

>>37765894
The simpler answer is people here know using out of context screenshots is easier (You) bait.

>>37759765
No

>>37760565
sadly, Juna and Erina both completely different flavors

they are great, but they're not filling the clock shaped hole left after the betrayal

>>37766728
Yeah none of them are emotionally dead (except when talking to a male) like Kronii

>>37765560
I unironically believe that with all the pairing memes about the two of them, that Vesper tried flirting in DM's and she reported him weeks ago

>>37765859
My guess is that a portion of her viewers were dissatisfied with her frequent breaks, game choices, lack of communication, etc. and that the drama provided a good breaking point for them to drop off

>>37759765
That's not how this works. No.

>>37760715
Jokes on you, I'd masturbate to that too.

>>37759765
OP's thinking with his Dick.

>>37767247
thats how these things always go, its a final straw. this was just a pretty heavy straw lol

>>37765240
1 hour and 18 minute mark, start from there.

>>37768089
She only talks about her new manager there.

>>37768451
Keep listening, I'll give you another timestamp when she gets to the specific thing.

>>37759765
I'm not a clockfag, but I'm on my way to forgiving her, will take a few more months.
I am only doing so because she is dumb enough to not actually not understand her audience and her work. In addition it is apparent that management and most of her coworkers actively encouraged her into it, while the Unicorn faction was silent. Source: astral projected myself into their discord.
Unicorns have every right to walk out and not look back, she lied. But I'm willing to give her a second chance cause I love SNOT and Council

>>37759765
remember when tempus was accepted way more then everyone thought they would be until she randomly decide to start a bunch of drama out of no where. yeah not thanks she can fuck off and this is coming from a stars fan

>>37768089
>6 minutes in and all she’s covered about is how her old manager was a complete jobber in terms of assisting her
I fail to see how this correlates to the management tweet at all.

>>37769161
It's later on, but what she says about her old manager is important, so I gave you the timestamp.

>>37760480
ok, i have subbed to aletta sky just now, thankyou

>>37769002
She could have reacted better or ignored the whole thing, but it was basically people from /here/ trying to force drama out of a DbD collab and didn't have much to do with anything she did
>>37769225
I hope you can find it - I don't remember her mentioning it at all in that stream

>>37763198
This voice meme needs to fucking end, she has one of the worst vocal inflections I've ever had the discomfort of listening to and her vocal fry is fucking grating on the ears. Her voice is terrible dude.

>sell boob mouse pad
>sell lewd daki
>do ASMR
wtf how dare you get parasocial

>>37769225
>>37769225
Just drop the direct timestamp about her talking about the post-break management tweet the. You don’t need to try and set the stage unless you wildly misinterpreted something she said and just want to try and save face now by trying to gaslight folks into reading stuff that’s “between the lines” that isn’t there.

>>37769637
Subjective. All the girls in EN unanimously chose her as having the sexiest voice.

>>37769835
I've got an hour left to go; I'll drop it when she gets to it.

>>37769637
Well who do you think has a good voice then?

>>37764813
Well don't go crying once she fucks up again. I will never find it in me to forgive her.

>>37761159
Explain why she's unhinged in male collabs then.

i would rather listen to aqua slurp into the mic for 2 hours than listen to kroni speak a single syllable

>>37770134
She hasn't talked about it. So, I can only speculate, which I'm not interested in doing right now.

>>37769492
The worst part about the “her being too loud” complaints is that those are almost always associated with her participating in a collab on Mori’s channel where it seems like Mori can’t find the right volume for her so she’s either too soft or too loud, which is how people started the dumb “laugh” shit in the first place.

>>37770134
Competitiveness and performance anxiety, she has talked about getting very heated on competitive games, that's why she doesn't play them.

Tempus found their niche and are turning the screws on JP Stars collabs instead (along with some others outside Holo altogether), so schizos can probably be at ease here on out

>>37766728
On the contrary, I think they're great and better than she ever was

winner winner chicken dinner

>>37770134
>Mario Party
Show me someone who is able to keep their cool all the time playing that game.

>>37770360
>turning the screws on JP Stars collabs instead (along with some others outside Holo altogether)
I'm not even a schizo, but it seems like common sense to do this first before collabing with the girls.

>>37769637
Its mostly clipniggers who only saw her debut, most of the time she talks in a grating shitty voice with tons of vocal fry. She only speaks nicely when she tries which is fucking never since Kronies are yesmen who will accept anything she does.

>>37770443
Heh 3 of them don’t speak Japanese

>>37759765
wtf is wrong with kronicucks? do you guys want people to attack her

>>37770360
Tempus shit all over Hololive in an attempt to leech numbers off the girls. They're opportunists who don't give a single fuck what damage they cause. The only way they stop doing intergender collabs is if management grows a brain and forbids it.

>>37770491
The JP Stars know some passion English. I know Aruran has studied some English jokes and phrases before. The other boys should be fine too.
Also, the Holo girls never let the language barrier hinder collabs with the JP girls. Ame, Mumei, Kronii, and others interacted with JP despite knowing minimal Japanese.

>>37770767
Tempus has done some collabs with StarsJP already and it’s not like the girls have done a lot of JP collabs. They’re pretty rare

>>37759765
>>Man does something wrong
>Is supposed to apologize and own up to their mistake
>>Woman does something wrong
>"Hey guys let's just sweep it under the rug no biggie"
Have a spine you wastrel.

>>37759765
Yeah no.

>>37759810
>The mask slipped for a few moments and she revealed herself as the cunt that she really is.
This.

>>37769790
The funniest part was after she was lecturing on parasocial relationships, she remembered that her mousepad/dakis were arriving soon and suddenly mentioned them in the same breath.

>>37771198
When did Ouro, 'parasocial relationships go both ways' Kronii lecture about parasocial relationships?

>>37759765
Kronii why are you getting desperate?

>>37771336
It was after that. I can't remember if it was the "maidenless" spiel or the unarchived members stream.

>>37769952
>almost an hour later and still no “proof”
Anon, you’re free to wipe the egg on your face off at any time

>>37759765
>Forget the infidelity and complete destruction of her façade
Next think you know, whe will swallow a man's pole on stream and you'll tell her it's okay

>>37760480
>apology
I'm not even an Aletta watcher and even I know that is a piss poor "apology", it's more of a "sorry you felt that way, this is a You problem", which just paints a pitcher that she really doesn't understand the audience that she and her company cater to at all if they are not able to empathize.

>>37759765
>she pretty much acts the same as she always does
No, that would fly before but now she owes her audience so she needs to do more.

>>37773064
She outright says
>I do apologise that I handled it wrong
I agree with you that you can tell she had to grin and bear it to even get that statement out but it is also a profoundly retarded drama, she didn't collab with a male, she didn't get caught talking with a male behind the scenes. She got ambushed in a 2view speed chatroom by a much larger streamer and said hello a bit too enthusiastically for some of her fans and unfollowed/refollowed a person she was already following prior to the interaction on twitter.
Do you honestly think that deserves even the level of apology she gave? I don't care for male vtubers or mixed collabs but I mean what the fuck it is literally nothing.

>>37759765
Only the drama whores of /vt/ still talk about it

>>37771880
I'll concede for now, it's too vivid a memory for me to have dreamt up. Maybe, it was another stream, maybe it was edited out, but I don't think so.

Hell nah!

How many times are we gonna have these same bloody threads about clock woman?

>>37773181
She owes you jack shit mate

>>37774109
Until she graduates or hopefully kills herself.

>>37772141
Why do (You) all have thoughts full of cock all the time?

>>37770134
The other girls can't take the banter she wants to dish out without taking it the wrong way. The only ones who kinda can are Gura and Ame

>>37759948
Didn't you heard the news? Tempus dropped the Holo collabs.

>>37774181
Based. Hopefully soon.

>>37760480
Many such cases

>>37759765
Is just moved on

>>37774550
>he belives that when Ame already confirmed another group collab with them in the future
lmao

>>37770134
She is a whore. No more explanation needed.

>>37762958
>possibly an explanation behind the scenes from a girl who knows what she is doing
I could see Fauna giving her the facts.
You don't need to do any sort of GFE, just don't be outwardly hostile to your audience and keep dudes out of it.

>>37759810
almost 200 replies and all we needed was this one

>>37763630
>like running a gun store and being surprised your customers vote Republican.
Really a perfect comparison.

>>37763998
lol, that's like calling someone a faggot in public and then acting surprised when the gay members of the audience take offense.

>>37759765
>forgive her
she did literally nothing wrong

>>37759765
Sure but it wont the hemorrhage of viewers HoloEN is facing. Only EN3 could had put a cork on it but i dont see it happening in less than 8 months and it wont matter by then.

>>37776949
You wish it was remotely the same, you silly schizo.

>>37759765

I Wasn't done plowing her into Oblivion (t. Tinder fuck of the Night and E-thot hunter) before She became a panting, pissing mess but I left like any Sensible person would and showered for an hour


I'm happy to know that OP including all of your Spineless losers could never dream of even getting mediocre pussy or Procreate but it sure is entertaining to watch you Beta's are desperately attempting to appropriate knee-capped mentality like it's Sane at all.

It's quite the sight to behold when Cuckolds try to self-Validate and get other people to agree with their self-imposed Mental Illness

I'll be happy watching you Subhuman, Basement dwellers clutching your whore merch in sheer, pathologically panicked insanity with Some whiskey


Remember, You did this to yourselves.


If Kroni was actually participating in here she'd have a laugh at your expenses while getting railed, but keep dreaming right? And taking those behind the counter pills so all of you wont shoot up the nearest school

https://files.catbox.moe/arj77l.mp4

Oh look another kronii hate thread about to hit bumb limit

>>37759810
Fpbp
>>37759765
Pathetic

>>37759765
no, but good luck Kronies

>>37759765
if she'd collab'd and brushed it off after, everything would be fine. but, she ended up making that promise and immediately breaking... and tried to blame her fanbase for it. even if it's just cause she's mentally retarded, just not a good look.
she already doesn't put in any effort. what does she have to offer if she isn't at least nice?

>>37759810
Fpbp, she just hates her fans. I don't really have any strong feelings toward kronii. Seeing how she treated her fans and her generally demeanor towards streaming changed that for the worse. I don't think I can really take her seriously anymore. Kinda like mori she is a jester character to laugh at and to feel pity towards her fanbase. I wish the clocks could have a better oshi. One that actually loves them and makes them happy.

>>37759765
Fuck no. Why give her the idea that she can get away with everything she does? Let people hate on her.

>>37759765
No, she's a lying whore.

>>37773560
>I don't care for male vtubers or mixed collabs but I mean what the fuck it is literally nothing.
You have to put it into context. As a small corpo she has 150 viewers tops on a very good day. Those break down into four groups:

- The very rare few who found you on their own as their first vtuber.
- Fans brought in from the small corpo eco-system, i.e. you learned about Production Kawaii because you saw a collab with Phase Connect
- HoloEN refugees, the bulk of which don't want male collabs on principle, and who are very likely to have found the company in the second half of 2022 after Tempus shat up HoloEN.
- NijiEN refugees. They may not be opposed on principle to male collabs, but in practice if they left that company it was after the faggots from Luxiem and later waves turned it into a dumpster fire.

The vtuber she interacted with was Alban Knox. Now NijiEN males are obnoxious creeps even within their own company, but lately they've developed a reputation for crashing small female 2view/3view's streams as a way to derail the chat and get fawned over. What's hilarious is that to date they just do that and leave, the grooming never results in so much as a Twitter callout for the 2view, nevermind a collab or anything that could theoretically improve her numbers.

So she interacts with this guy. Instantly, the HoloEN refugees are pissed because they're here explicitly to avoid males. The NijiEN refugees are pissed because here's one of the faggots responsible for ruining what they liked, following them into a different company's stream to ruin that too. That's 50% of your fanbase demographics you've upset out of hand. Your ccv is low enough that if even 20 of them leave you lose a visible chunk of income. Meanwhile the nijifaggot is just going to leave, and if you're unlucky his batshit fujo fanbase will get riled up because you didn't show him enough respect. Of course you damage control. You damage control as hard as you can because you stumbled on a cocktail of resentment that goes way beyond just 'interacted with a male'.

>>37761962
>no dude, she said she wants to be a boring cunt with the personality of a wall that never laughs, she totally prefers that over having a good time, laughing and being happy
Damn, you're retarded. Kronies are not only cucks, but also retards.

>>37760722
This whore farted on stream???? Clip??

>>37778392
>bumb
ESL cluck. Whod've thought?

>>37759765
I'm in love with Ouro Kronii Ch. hololive-EN

Stop spamming these threads holy shit

>>37787876
Nothing wrong with having more Kronii in the Catalog

>>37759810
Fpbp

>>37759810
She did nothing wrong

>>37759810
FPBP

I don't care who she collabs with. "Nevermind, I'll do what I want" reversal on the twitter is inexcusable.

>>37759810
fpbp
I've lost all respect of her after the idol-culture bitching. She doesn't deserve to be in Hololive, and she should fuck off and hang herself somewhere. Good thing it won't be that long until she dies anyway.

>>37792161
She did everything wrong. Handled it the worst out of anyone. That members stream, the muh idol culture comment, getting management to make a notice

>>37759765
>can we all just forget the whole tempus debacle and move on?
Can you?

>>37759765
if she can get 15k solo stream, I will forgive her

>>37796985
so birthday, anniversary or 3d debut?

>>37759765
Most decent minded people already did, the retarded unicorns and low life's are the ones who doesn't.

>>37759810
>she hates her fans
has this ever once actually been true?

>>37759765
Said nobody ever. The whole point of a mask slip moment or redpilling or putting on the glasses is it reveals the reality of the situation. Without active delusions powered by serious mental illness, you can't just go back to the lie.

>>37759810
fpbp

>>37797445
just look at the mirror and ask yourself, "is there anybody that doesnt hate me?" Youll be shocked because the answer is nobody likes you, everbody hates you. jk lol just me filling up my shitposting quota

>>37797964
No, this doesn't count towards your quota.

Why fucking forgive her?
She knows exactly what she's doing. She'll keep doing this shit as long as she knows the mindless kronies will always forgive her.

ewww, smells like sweat and unwashed dick in here

>>37784910
>NijiEN refugees. They may not be opposed on principle to male collabs, but in practice if they left that company it was after the faggots from Luxiem and later waves turned it into a dumpster fire.
This. Males from nijien unironically worst streamers i ever seen in my entire live. Despite i don't like Tempus but them are 10000% better streamers than any male from nijien.
with females the situation was opposite before Luxiem thofor whatever reason

>>37799950
Also forgot to add that nijien males are scummy personas to begin with.

>>37784910
>chubba with 150 views tops
>is leaning heavily towards GFE.
And she does pic related on stream. To think at least part of her audience would take it the worst way is dumb at best, malicious at worst

>>37799325
How do you know the smell of unwashed dick?

>>37784910
>a way to derail the chat and get fawned over
rrat : On purpose to destabilize the fanbase of possible future competition before they can get any real growth.

>>37766728
>juna is a different flavor
Just jump on the Eeltrain. Here, she even used Kronii's default bgm to make the transition easier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1WMvzoddeA&t=2917s

>>37801807
oooooooooooooooooo gottem, fan is reflection of their oshi fucking whooooooooreeee

>>37760480
You're a retard

>>37759810
fpbp

bump. Kronii hate

All i'm seeing is a bunch of jealous faggot mad that their clock woman find a boring boomer more interesting than them

>>37759765
No.

>>37759765
Nah, she made her choice.

>>37759765
I'll forget it when she stops eating subway.

>>37759810
Fpbp

>>37792161
She helped normalize holoEN collabing with men… she sided with twitter tourists instead of her long time fans who told her they didn’t want these collabs… but a bunch of people on twitter who have never watched hololive told her it would be ok to do… so that’s what she did wrong, she decided to listen to twitter instead of her fans and it’s completely ruined her content, even if you skip those collabs it doesn’t change the fact that she clearly prefers tempus to her own genmates, which ruins all of her content for us because we’ve realized just how fake she usually acts

>>37812438
I actually stopped watching her and didn't regret it at all
>She barely cross my mind and day and its actually a bliss
>Seen her true color
>Never going back

>>37813180
Oh same here bro, I stopped watching her the second i saw that one clip of her and regis during their DBD collab. At this point i just hate on her out of principal and to hopefully dissuade the other girls from following the same path as her, but kronii is basically dead to me

>>37812438
>there's no possible way that a majority of her fans disagree with me
>they're all obviously as retarded as i am

>>37814190
I don't care what she does, or how many shill threads you creatures make asking us to forgive her. I'm not watching Kronii, I'm not watching any stream that includes her, and I will immediately close any stream if anybody so much as utters her name.

>>37814361
ok, but don't pretend that the only people fine with her collabing with tempus are "twitter tourists". you know as well as i do that the vast majority of everyone who's ever watched her is fine with it.

>>37759765
No, Kronii. You can't collab again with the homos, sorry

>>37814513
The "vast majority of everyone who's ever watched her" is becoming an increasingly dwindling number outside the buffest, most demeaning content she can think of to stream.

>>37814513
Bruh tempus has like 6 fans and the rest of hololive fans are at best indifferent to male collabs, otherwise they’d probably be watching tempus in the first place, but tempus gets less views then my grandma’s cooking videos so clearly that isn’t the case, the average hololive fan would at best indifferent to these collabs or completely against them, the homobeggars are just a super loud minority

>>37814190
Read >>37814913

>>37799950
>Nigga says something positive about males.
>With Shondo as pic.
Mhhh....

>>37814361
Anon, if you think the purpose of this thread was to shill her, your newness is showing

>>37759765
Heh, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLpYvG5GkuE

>>37814513
no, only cucks or twitter trannies are ok with faggot collabs

>>37759765
We are anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget.

>>37759765
nope.

>>37759765
Worked for hoomans

>kronii hate thread already a day old
Who is the faggot that keeps bumping this? Do jannies just do not give a fuck anymore?

>>37821202
>People express their opinion respectfully about a Hololive member
>Mostly negative
>"S-stop hating h-her"
Go back to inf fag, not your hugbox

>>37821202
Me. I like to talk about Kronii

>>37821435
>respectfully
>AH YOU FUCKING WHORE GRADUATE AND KILL YOURSELF

>>37822203
I dont want her dead, but she is a whore that needs to graduate

>>37759765
Weird that people focus on her when Calli's boyfriend (me, by the way) is still going steady and benefiting from her continued success all these years.

Never

you guys really make me cant wait for the day when all of SEA gets rangebanned and this board becomes general only

>>37824343
Oh no... suddenly all the homobeggars disappear

Kronii was a trendsetter and anons are just angry because they somehow think they got cucked because she dared to have male friends.
She probably talks to males off stream too, just like all of the girls. She was never going to date you.

>>37818997
Nta, but not true. I would not deny unicorns were her bread and butter, I mean she's from Hololive, they are their blood - who they constantly nickle and dime. But some people that don't mind them are probably well-adjusted people with an affinity for low-brow entertainment. Not every that enjoys something you dislike is a fag or a tranny, child.

>>37825229
>i prefer x content on stream and want it to stay that way.
>"they are doing y in private and you will never :^^^^^)"
you are missing the point to a degree that makes me want to punch you.

>>37802578
Are you okay in the head

>>37759765
It's not her fault she thought her fans were normies...

>>37826095
>It's not her fault she was totally willfully ignorant of the fanbase and culture of the job she applied to as well as the fans she cultivated over the course of a year by selling body pillows and oppai mousepads.

>>37826461
best case is she's disconnected from her fans that made her rich. worst case she's ungrateful, thinks she can get away with anything wihout consequence and/or actively agenda-pushing.
why would you keep watching someone like that? why would you still give her money??

>>37818997
Only incel unicorns loser who will die alone without ever interacting with an actual woman are not ok with streamers interacting with males. It's fucking pathetic

>>37826891
if you are in a place where you are kinda, sorta branded as an idol and you don't collab with guys for one or two years, and you never mention collabing with guys, and you
are building a close relation with your fans, who are 99% male and who support you financially, then you can not expect everyone to cheer when your content is suddenly hanging out with guys.
it's truly naive beyond comprehension

>>37759765
I lost most of my interest in Vtubers since Coco left so I haven't payed too much attention to council, but out of all of them Kronii was always my favorite and her genuinely having fun and laughing her heart out while hanging out with the boys made me happy. I hope she continues to make the content that makes her happy

>>37760480
I actually feel like an apology like in that pic is better than dead silence, though I'm also of the opinion that kronii did nothing wrong.

>>37827168
>you can not expect everyone to cheer when your content is suddenly hanging out with g
I've been fan of Hololive before EN branch was even a thing and always knew that there were girls who had no problems collabing with guys. Of course Kronii never had the chance to do so before Tempus debuted, but if you knew anything about JP members, there's no way you would think there isn't a possibility that EN girls might want to collab with stars too.
If a guy objects to a streamer interacting with males, 99% of the times they will be perceived as a parasocial incel simp, even if they object because they just want CGDCT

>>37827340
>>37827511
Cucks

>>37759810
Women are never held accountable for anything.

>>37827613
Reminder that there are multiple interviews out there of JPs chatting with sweaty old men. Oh but I guess those aren't the same as male collabs, right?

>>37828084
If the sweaty old men had a good chance of appearing on their stream every week you can bet the JP viewers would be up in arms even if it was fucking Abe.

>>37828084
Do you even read what you just said?

>>37828084
>interviews
they are clearly not the same. one is official business and one is content they make for their viewers

>>37826891
>>37827613
Guess what, those incel simps are the ones who are sad enough to buy shit like body pillows, boob mousepads, and voicepacks, as well as sign up for memberships and higher tier memeberships.

>>37759765
how is this thread still up

>>37762958
>Well ogey anon, can't say I understand but we all get something different from this after all
it's the logical conclusion of increasingly exclusive and jaded mindset
you're on the same path as him, just give or take couple years without any attempt of crafting happiness that doesn't depend on other people

>>37759765
This entire fucking thread is basically
>How dare this female streamer be happy while playing with a male coworker
Holy schizo. Please erase everybody here from the genepool.

>>37829109
>Im a fucking newfag tourist let me oversimplify and talk about things I dont know about

>>37829292
These types of comments always boil down to something even more straightforward, which is
>I want vtubers to have an audience they fundamentally don't possess
Try justifying SCs, or memberships, or any merch the girls put out, to a normal person. Even the streaming schedule differences are a dead giveaway. There's a reason the Twitch grind has 8-12 hour stream days and holos don't need to do it.

>>37829109
tourists should be instantly banned.

>>37829109
You tried to summarize the thread but you didn't even read the thread.

>>37801212
She had 1 job.--

>>37830006
Most viewers and superfans (who SC, member and buy merch) are pretty normal. You regularly hear superchats mentioning their girlfriends, wives, kids, etc. It's pretty clear from the past few weeks of streams that Kronii still has most of her superchatters and that the occasional male collab isn't a big deal to them. Hardcore unicorns aren't a significant portion of any fanbase and frankly a chuuba will be much better off without them.

>>37832075
Yeah. But the REAL deal is how to deal with the Unicorns that are among your superfans. So far, in Hololive, Mori did it the best, with Ame second, and Kronii being absolutely the worst.

>>37759765
Can she ever welcome Gabe-kun back? No mean no

>>37828084
>Interview
>Versus
>Blasting her mic like an unhinged schizophrenic, and making promises to her paying members that she immediately broke
Not the same and you know it. It's hardly even about the collab itself anymore, she's been increasingly shitty towards her fans and this was just the final straw.

Unprofessionalism and a shitty personality are the real problems here. People trying to criticize these whores get called out as unicorns.

>>37833275
>Mori
Numbers reclining.
>Ame
Numbers reclining.
>Kronii
Numbers reclining. But keep telling yourself there's nothing wrong with alienating unicorns.

>>37759810
when?

Is this a Discord thread?

>my_kronii.jpg
Tempus property

>>37837931
>is money worth more than peace of mind and not walking on eggshells with a crowd that claims to hate people like that (ironically enough)
Yeah, there are no downsides. If you she actually listened to you cucks she'd really be a whore because debasing yourself for money is EXACTLY what a whore does.

>>37841994
>debasing yourself for money
Then don't be a vtuber.

>>37842206
That'd be your solution. Her's was to cut off the audience that was a nuisance. So yes, her paycheck got smaller, but I bet her peace of mind is at an all time high since she started doing this shit.
I don't know why people get emotional over this. Like, if you identify with all this unicorn incel ideology I don't think it is any surprise to you you're an unwanted, meddlesome person. Look for someone that wants to take advantage of you - it's the kind of whore you want and deserve, after all.

>>37759810
Fp

>>37759765
forgive? sure. by forgiveness i mean not giving a shit about her anymore. no hate, no love. just indifference.

forget? nah. i have to remember it all. that way i'll never fall for her lies and false promises again. better that way for me. and for her too because she's got one less weirdo watching her. thanks for coming to my ted talk.

>>37842581
>Her paycheck is smaller
>Her peace of mind is at an all time high
She lives alone in Canada, a country with one of the highest living costs in the world. Making rent alone is an absolute nightmare, let alone feeding yourself. No wonder she's been eating garbage food more and more. I promise you, her peace of mind has been shattered along with her dwindling income, which tracks with her present menhera arc.

>ideology
>I don't know why people get emotional over this
These are anime characters engaging in an inherently parasocial hobby under the employ of a company who is widely known for heavily pandering to parasocials who get emotionally attached. They're actors and they should play their god damned part, regardless of how they feel about the matter, or graduate. She sure didn't mind the money she got from people buying her dakimakura and oppai mouse pad, or the mountains of superchat love confessions, or from doing ASMR with a Live2D of herself barely dressed and on all fours not once, but three times.

>>37844345
>present menhera arc
She's unironically doing better than ever mentally

>>37844591
lol
lmao
You people don't even watch her, and that much is obvious from the numbers. You're literally only here to virtue signal about saving the poor, hard done by women from the nasty incels who have the audacity to know what they want and stop watching when what they want is no longer provided. Only you haven't even managed to save her, her hololive career is circling the drain and the only way she can stay remotely relevant is literally by debasing herself doing shit she normally wouldn't do.

I guess in a way this has been good for her, she actually has to try now rather than coast off the good will of unicorns.

>>37845225
You're the one that hasn't watched her for the past 6 weeks or paid attention to her superchats if you think she's not doing well