/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>37575008
If by homo you mean homostars then it's not fucking fake or management mandated because she does it with literally fucking everyone who plays valo including JPs(female)

I LOVE YOU MR KORO

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>88,503: Korone (Hololive)
>41,528: Fubuki (Hololive)
>35,438: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>34,299: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>20,116: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>18,493: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,353: Patra (774 inc)
>15,281: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,222: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>13,528: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,209: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,366: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,621: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,612: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>10,590: Yashiro (Nijisanji)

Just noticed, did Matsuri's number go down to normal after Rust died?

my cute wife

>>37575008
It could be mandated and she accepted it just fine especially because most of them are Valo collab, but it did get tiring that I couldn't help but giving in to that feeling.

Hello, I'm a completely normal human being, some of my pastimes include spending days pretending to be the fan of a streamer i hate just to get attention for it, like a normal person with a good brain would.

>>37575161

>>37575170
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 110,897 - 4th anniversary 3D live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53,522 - Pokemon Scarlet w/QED
22) Korone (Hololive) - 88,503 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Suisei
1x: Flare, Korone, Koyori, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
212x: Hololive
100x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
50x: Pekora
21x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura
4x: Korone, Koyori, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>37575190
Your post probably took more effort than anything the troll posted bruh. Just ignore that shit. Don't let posts online affect your mental.

bots

>>37575182
yeah

>>37575250
I hate Korone so much it's unreal

>>37575251
the rrats are winning.

>>37575251
huh, it took me 10 seconds, not a month of my life like them

>>37574385
>Not like they reclined too much compare the rest of EN/ID.
Yes they did.
Kobo in particular, she's at the lowest point in her career, below even the end of her debut buff, before having the "my account got deleted" buff.

I don't want to see any posts about Fauna or Bae this thread. Ok /#/? Think you can do it?

>>37575201
What does the * mean

Why are there people acting like the Pandemic is the only thing that helps with Western vtubing? They had a foothold now there are definitely ways to make vtubing big again. Just that there are no SSR pull on talents from any company so far.

Remember, tablet was not a thing before iPad, and iPad came to fame due to a lot of marketing effort and charisma from a douche rather than it being a natural process.

>>37575329
but i miss fauna

>>37575329
I can't. Fauna is too cute.

>>37575312
rent free

>>37575182
It looks like she's a bit better off than last year, but yea her numbers normalized after rust hyper-buffed her.

>>37575312
Remember: it's not a waste of time if you enjoy doing it

>>37575323
kobokeks....

>rent free says man after spending 8 hours in the numbers thread replying cope and seethe to every post that calls him a loser, for his 30th week in a row

so how many hours has the sub feed been broken for now?

>>37575332
means the recorded peak was from a z

>>37575394
Don't worry ID is different, they don't care about male collabs!

>>37575312
You care way too much, reddit mod vibes fer sure

En3 today

>>37575335
Say hello to the saviour of vtubing

>>37575422
Sure

>>37575409
like almost a day now, pretty sure it was broken by the time the morning jp streams were happening

>>37575413
Dummies somehow thinking all the viewers Kobo and Gen 3 were getting were somehow the same as the previous Gens instead of newbies

Hi /#/’s. Help settle a numbers related debate if you would:

Rank these from who you would most want to be -to- least want to be (they all started at the exact same time)
>A. Girl who streams 30 hours a week, has 65k subs, 400ccv, and $31k in donos
>B. Girl who streams 10 hours a week, has 45k subs, 150ccv, and $30k in donos
>C. Girl who streams 20 hours a week, has 40k subs, 200 ccv, and $14k in donos

>>37575414
hey, can you stop replying to my post, why do you care so much

>>37575335
En has nothing going on that is making people hype like jp and with the constant breaks from gura is not helping.

>>37575468
B > A > C

Work smarter not harder

>>37575468
I would like to be B, hence I think I have similar personality with La+.

>>37575323
Here is Kaela, for contrast. She had a very good summer with Minecraft and Rust, but all good things come to an end and she's returning to the mean, sitting right now at her EXACT midpoint a little over 3000

>>37575413
I've never really gotten this argument. It's not as though any of the IDs ever really even tried to go the unicorn route so how could we know for sure?

>>37575468
a, 30 hours is easy

>>37575335
Vtubers are just waiting for some game to come along that's popular and good to stream.
Unfortunately, they are all bad at games and have very narrow tastes, and often won't stream a game if they actually like it, so it's pretty much not ever going to happen.

>>37575509
No one is safe from corn #grimmie

>>37575468
Without merch and sponsorship numbers this is useless as these three likely can get 40k on a single sponsorship running 2 or 3 streams

>>37575508
What happened unibros, Kaela avoided the homos but she still reclined??

>>37575329
Wait for that new schizo who ritual posts about Bae again

>>37575474
I'm concerned because it feels like you're terminally online. I'll stop replying from here but just take care of yourself.

>>37575565
Her recline happened after she had the homos on her birthday stream

>>37575468

>>37575537
Western women don't really play games. They are either part thots or tradwives, nothing in the middle.

>>37575565
She didn't avoid them?
>>37575537
You could say the same for traditional streamers

>>37575468
Probably A, but B has huge potential if they streamed more

>>37575583
People thought they already lost so they left early.

>>37575573
>I'm concerned
why do you care, smells like a reddit mod

>>37575413
Her fans, which are mostly Indonesians, seemingly okay with it when male in questions weren't just some Japanese or North American randos, while her fans speak neither of their those languages. Like a warkop anon I mentioned in last thread, he wished she collabs more with ID senpais/other ID content creators.
Although the magic is now gone and too late to get back to her glory, I would still like to see how the DotA 2 collab would do.

>>37575565
as soon as they appeared on her birthday, the number starts declining though?

>>37575640
post tits or gtfo

i jwu, did the sub box bug fuck numbers up overnight? how did the doggy god do?

>>37575642
You say that but her first male id collab got 32k or something stupid like that but her other collabs with him was disappointing. Her decline also got worst afterward as well, so more like id unicorns are a silent majority.

>>37575642
cover should had gone to ID stars right after ID3.

>>37575609
Traditional streamers include a lot more pro gamers and tournament goers, people who will grind a game all day every day, who are often responsible for making a game popular. They will post game guides on Youtube, or analyze new patches, so on.
Basically, you've got some real autists among traditional streamers who can squeeze a game hard for content, whereas vtubers right now are all on the extreme casual side.

>why do you care so much
>im concerned
>i'll stop replying
>keeps replying
no wonder you're defending schizos

>>37575323
>>37575508
And here is Zeta. She never actually manage to get buffed after losing her debut buff, sank straight into the 2.5k range and never really inclined from it.

>>37575821
post tits or gtfo

>>37575371
She is actually quite good at GFE as notMatsuri. I think Matsuri is just her way to let people see the other side of her and she doesn't care about numbers.

>>37575824
What is even the appeal of Zeta? She just seems very bland to me

>>37575468
B has the most potential. Whomever B is needs to get up to 20 hours a week and watch herself incline. She is leaving a lot of money on the table

>>37575805
You want 2 views stars? They saw nijiid and went nope.

>>37575609
traditional streamers are reclining too but because they don't have to deal with permissions they can jump around from games more or use youtube/reddit/tik tok as a crutch

>>37575871
she is Axel's girlfriend and.... uh...

>>37575755
SUSAN WILL NEVER LET MY DOG GET 100K

>>37575824
Zeta is extremely solid and consistent as her graph shows after her debut buff wore out.

>>37575413
The thing with Kobo is that she was supposed to be THEIR (Indonesian) streamer but she keeps doing English and Japanese collabs. They don’t care if she collabs with guys.

>>37575886
traditional streamers also have the gigabuff version of the handcam in the IRL streams

SIXTY (60) DAYS AVERAGE AND MEDIAN, ID3

>>37575323 :: Kobo (reclining, lowest point on record)
>>37575508 :: Kaela (stable on a midpoint)
>>37575824 :: Zeta (stable on a low point)

>>37575871
Tempiss cocksleeve

>>37575938
Like Ame and Bae, she's stable on a low point. Given that HoloID had their BIGGEST growth arc in that period, that doesn't bode well for her

Watching Korone's BDay Live now since it was on at bumfuck o'clock in the morning for me.
>She started with Space Runaway Ideon theme
This fucking boomer bitch.

>>37575951
ID3 average CCV last 3 months

Month: Aug > Sep > Oct
>Kobo: 8410 > 7476 > 5471
>Zeta: 3553 > 2437 < 2479
>Kaela: 5112 > 3536 > 3159

>>37575886
That is because they are on twitch and their parent company is not in Japan.

Actually for example hearthstone, which is a genre that I still follows, recline a lot since its inception. It bounced back a little with battleground, but not it is on recline again.
Dota and LoL are similar to hearthstone too, and even just chatting reclined. This definitely can be attributed to the end of Pandemic but also due to no new entertaining streamer since PewDiePie.

>>37575871
voice and she streams

>>37575886
En wouldn't have recline so much if they had outfits, 3d lives, and events. You know things hololive fans want. Instead of any of that we get starsen, no hype, drama, and half the talents being hostile toward fans.

>>37575951
Zeta is stable at her midpoint as that's close to her current spot than the low point (which is 2400)

>>37575871
She has a nice voice, she’s stupid and she acts cute

>>37575886
Thing is, they don't actually jump around games much, so permissions aren't that big of a deal. A huge portion of streamers just focus on one game, and their audience will just be fans of that game.

>>37576057
the fact that ina will graduate in her third year without a 3D debut proper or 3D anniversary/BD should be telling of the EN situation.

>>37576057
Back in the days the heavy hitters like Aqua and Pekora didn't have a lot of 3D and Pekora barely have any new outfit even today. They inclined by their sheer charisma.

Until EN can get 40k ccv eating burgers (with or without handcam) while promoting a fast food franchise I would say the decline are ENs' own fault.

>>37576024
>and their parent company is not in Japan.
The problem is not their parent company being Japanese or not. The problem is
>having a parent company at all
There are lots of affordances granted by companies to indies that won't extend to corporate professionals.

Even with regards to Cover themselves: "hobbyists" like kay Yu can freely make something like Holocure using COVER assets and IP but (let's say) Sega would never be able to do that without explicit permission from COVER.

Most companies have a blanket permission for "not for profit / not professional" use of their IP that they don't extend to corporations, be it in the west or in Japan

>>37576089
I'd say it's more that she has a nice voice, she's cute and she acts stupid.

>>37575565
She's ID first and foremost. Put a Kaela, a stream-hour monster in EN and she'll even top Fauna.

>>37575995
NOW I'M FREEEEEEE
FREE FALLING

>>37576169
They do need a good hype person for promotion as other then taco bell gura shilling is painful.

>>37576107
A good amount stick to one game but the 20k-15k range is full of variety streamers. Jumping around is very much the meta for most popular streamers

>>37576024
>That is because they are on twitch and their parent company is not in Japan.
Yeah obviously but that's not what the discussion was about. Someone said traditional streamers are stuck waiting for good games too but imo their situation isn't as bad as vtubers because they can rely on other things

>>37576057
I don't know why this is hard for people to understand, you can say "oh they didn't stream as much" but hype events like 3Ds, outfits and debuts are the standard for keeping the tourists hooked and turning them into regulars. Like patches and expansions in games, these things cement the regulars while being entry points for new fans

Korone's pokemon frame is up and an hour later is Koyori along with Kronii.

Even JPs are taking weekday EN timeslots besides the weekends. Also surprising (or not) that EN aren't taking advantage of the impropted collab nature of the pokemon game. Iroha just casually dropped on Fubuki's stream to play for a while with her.

>>37576320
Vtuber can rely on more kayfabe than meatbags but ENs seems to dislike that. Kiara who did everything right has negative charisma.

>>37576024
Hearthstone lost a lot of streamers. Kolento, Forsen, Lifecoach, Reynad all quit, and more that I forgot. Kripp only streams the battlegrounds version. Zalae was inclining heavily until he got thot patrolled. Hafu got married and now only her husband streams the game. Even familiar faces among the devs like Ben Brode left.
The streamer tournament scene completely dried up, not really from lack of interest but from the streamers all getting tired of the game and departing.

>>37576345
>but hype events like 3Ds, outfits and debuts are the standard for keeping the tourists hooked and turning them into regulars.
I terribly disagree. Every single time people ask
>what was the moment that got in into "the rabbit hole"
the most common answers are the most mundane events: Miko nigger, Pekora throwing sword into lava, Korone Eekum Bokum, Azur lane collab, Trash Taste Mori appearance and so on.

I genuinely never ever EVER saw anyone answering
>it was the 3D debut / 3D live / new outfit from such and such that got me curious about it.

>>37576400
it's a holiday in jp, labour thanksgiving or something like that

>>37576169
>They inclined by their sheer charisma.
lol

>>37575439
Gyaruramy i kneel

>>37576432
I don't think the EN audience wants obvious kayfabe

>>37576500
No, he is right. What you said helps people discover the so-called "rabbit hole", but big events is what keep them interested and watching

>>37575126
where can i look at bilibili donations? darkflame is down

>>37576400
>EN timeslots
No such thing and there is a reason they call "that" slot
>LAMY SLOT

One of the strongest slots ever in Hololive history was Coco's Asacoco slot, which was 6:00 AM JST / 5PM EDT.
These things are mostly "use it or lose it", Ina would never suffer from overlaps from JP but the current EN girls might because they don't really "own" a slot, they just pop into it whenever

>>37576500
All the things they discover after is what keeps them hooked

>>37576525
Why do people say nips are overworked to death when they have paid day offs like 6 days a month for the most random shit?

>>37576500
Imo stuff like 3d debuts and outfits are more for hooking in old fans.
I do think stuff like holofes which has wider appeal can bring in new fans though. Watching the pirated Holofes stream here was my introduction to Myth.

>>37576586
>big events is what keep them interested and watching
That's exactly what I am disagreeing with. This never gets mentioned as a factor, ever.
>Wow, I was ambivalent about Hololive but then I saw the 3D debut of X / new outfit of X and got hooked.

I give you new debuts tho. That is a HUGE draw for a new audience that not necessarily wants to "get into the cinema room in the middle of a movie" but will start one from the start

So who wins.
Bae in a brand new game, Kronii in Pokemon #1, or Fauna on Minecraft. They'll all eventually overlap each other since they're all 1 hour apart

>>37576627
that's just for national holidays, there's like 1 per month, some get 2

>>37576726
Gura with a Twitter Space

>>37576478
Wait what? I know Forsen abandon the sinking ship quite early, Reynad has his tempostorm business so whatever. How would Kolento and Lifecoach survive without hearthstone?
Tbqh hearthstone is really boring now even shadowverse feels like a better game than hearthstone.

ina streams a lot

>>37576500
>the most common answers are the most mundane events: Miko nigger, Pekora throwing sword into lava, Korone Eekum Bokum, Azur lane collab, Trash Taste Mori appearance and so on.
Yes those introduce them to hololive but these big event don't keep them in hololive.

>>37576726
bae 6k fauna 9k kronii 9k

>>37576750
are takos okay

>>37576674
Well, the enfranchised audience will point to Lives as a factor of holding their attention, but the truth is that we just don't have enough people in HoloEN right now. 10 people just isn't enough for full coverage without massive burnout.

>>37576726
Fauna, maybe Kronii could have won if she had at least 1 hour uncontested

>>37575824
I have to wonder if it's got something to do with her almost letting something slip.
Zeta's the that's hard to imagine what she even does if not GFE.

>>37576578
EN audiences want drama judging from xqc fans.

>>37576726
Bae 6-9 k
Kronii 4-7 k
Fauna 10-11k

>>37576500
I got into Hololive initially because of
>Miko nigger, Pekora throwing sword into lava, Korone Eekum Bokum

but fell off over time. I recently got back in because of that weekend with Marine's birthday and Miko's 4th anniversary lives

WAIT IT GOT FIXED

>>37576777

>>37575824
And yet her subscriber growth has accelerated for some reason.

BAE LOVE
FAUNA LOVE
COUNCIL LOVE
SCHIZO HATE

>>37576674
Your last point is real. I recently switched oshi and it's so hard to get up to speed with all the shared knowledge that the fanbase has

>>37576886
based

>>37575805
First 2view branch in Holopro

>>37576825
They must be pushing it out piecemeal, because I'm still stuck with the bug.

>>37576500
Yeah, but that has pretty much played out. They're not going to tap into a new audience with a funny clip or collab.
Hololive had a big advantage when they were just unknown cute anime girls, but now they have a lot of people shitting on them out of fear since they've gotten too popular, and everyone has already heard about them.

>>37576921
Did you actually send a "This shit isn't working" feedback message?

>>37576726
Bae 7k
Kronii 9k
Fauna 9k
Looks like the streams to beat on the NijiEN side are VOX horror with asmr mic and Nina birthday

>>37576953
I tweeted at them, is there some more officila way to do it?

i wish every girl in hololive a good incline

>>37576825
>27k views
>7 hours in
It is over for Haachama.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*


Here it goes


>11/22 DAILY TALLY
9,910: Yugo (Nijisanji)
8,146: Vox (Nijisanji)
7,446: Fauna (Hololive)
5,920: Mori (Hololive)
5,368: Ike (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR NOVEMBER
1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,785 (Faith)
2. Axel (Hololive) - 9,290 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 16,738 (Resident Evil Village: Shadows of Rose)
4. Kronii (Hololive) - 10,369 (Resident Evil Village)
5. Luca (Nijisanji) - 13,459 (The Backrooms w/Shu)
6. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,500 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Mumei (Hololive) - 7,952 (Resident Evil 7)
8. Baelz (Hololive) - 7,412 (Trombone Champ)
9. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 20,845 (The Telephone bullshit again...DO SOMETHING ELSE)
10. Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,072 (Karaoke Rebroadcast)
11. Magni (Hololive) - 8,513 (Unarchived Karaoke w/Noir)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 14,682 (Katamari Damacy Reroll)
13. Luca (Nijisanji) - 18,856 (It Takes Two)
14. Fauna (Hololive) - 10,728 (Bioshock)
15. Gura (Hololive) - 19,121 (Sonic Frontiers)
16. Kiara (Hololive) - 8,014 (Unarchived Karaoke)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 15,655 (Scuffed Stream)
18. Kiara (Hololive) - 23,320 (Holotalk w/Pekora)
19. Luca (Nijisanji) - 12,007 (Just Dance)
20. Fungus (Nijisanji) - 22,778 (Unarchived Karaoke)
21. Mori (Hololive) - 10,535 (Karaoke)
22. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 9,910 (Karaoke)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 15
Nijisanji - 7
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
5x: Gura
3x: Luca
2x: Kronii, Kiara, Yugo
1x: Axel, Mumei, Baelz, Ren, Magni, Fauna, Fungus, Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Gura
23p: Mumei
19p: Luca
18p: Fauna
15p: Kronii
13p: Yugo
11p: Kiara
10p: Shu
8p: Baelz
7p: Vox
6p: Amelia
5p: Axel, Ren, Magni, Fungus, Mori
3p: Reimu, Selen, Enna, Ike, Kyo
1p: Noir, Rosemi, Regis

>>37576977
Also maybe try ctrl f5?

>>37576886
Idk why people shit on council for having bad numbers. I mean this is 2022, not 2020 anymore. Vtubing is dead. The hype is dead. Fuck all haters.

STREMS BACK

>>37576860
>And yet her subscriber growth has accelerated for some reason.
She didn't tho? She "downshifted gears" before September and is on a constant pace since then

>>37576726
>Bae in a brand new game
Why would you assume this a good thing
>Persona 5 Royal
Oh

>>37577021
I only really see that coming from mythfags in global aanymore

>>37577009
Ah, looks like they just pushed it out for me as well now.
Thank goodness, I was getting really fucking annoyed at this fuckup.

>>37576996
Fucking Yugo is going to end up with more lifetime golds and points than some Luxiem members. All of it is due to that leeching telephone game shit and spamming karaoke streams. Lame as fuck. My most hated vtuber.

>>37576972
I really don't give a fuck about what NijiEN does I'm just more curious about HoloEN performance. Tally literally doesn't matter to me.

>>37577049
She can still get 7-9k tho. She is bad but not that bad.

>>37576996
>Vox reclined
>Council still can't get gold
Fulgur was right.

>>37577021
Well because this thread only talks about Council because Myth outside of Gura is even deader and are mostly burned out.

>>37576749
Kolento is Ukrainian and his last tweet was about getting invaded, I don't think he streams anything anymore.
Lifecoach just doesn't care, he only occasionally streams for fun and enjoys his retired life with his family and poker winnings.

>>37576726
Fauna MC should win that I'd say.

>>37577122
If only the hohols kneel from the start this would never happen.
Good for lifecoach I guess.

>>37577021
>people
you mean that one guy?

>>37576996
>7 karaoke golds this month including 3 in a row just now
Karaoke was a mistake

I hate you guys. I'll see you tomorrow

>>37577239
All ENs, niji and holo alike lacks creativity. Yes, even Ame.

>>37577294
Kill yourself. I love you.

Why can't Fauna and Kronii just do a collab if they want to play Minecraft this week? The Civil war hype might be back again. Just why?

is he gone already, i fucking hate that guy

>>37575951
hey anon you showed Myth graphs except Gura, are you perhaps a chumbud who is afraid of showing her recline ?

>>37576500
Top multiplayer games are alive and retained their players for years because they are updating regularly and adding new characters/heroes in their game regularly.
Same can be said on hololive if you want to retain your viewers you need to do events and stuff so your audience would stick knowing there would be something in the near future to look forward to.

>>37577319
Fauna is taking off Thursday and Friday most likely because Thanksgiving, which doesn't affect Kronii in the slightest since she's Canadian.

>>37577239
The better singers I can understand but I really can't understand the appeal of watching a garbage singer like Fungus. I can't wrap my head around it.

I love all of my wives

>>37577319
kronii is terrible at playing along with the girls

>>37577319
Because neither of them cares

>>37577332
Stop giving attention to him you retard.

>>37577040
Tempus collateral damage reverberating through all the kaigai branches
Totally worth it though for a handful of flirtatious tweets and a lame Keep Talking collab

>only need to stream ~ 2 hours each time
>still only stream 3 to 5 times per week only
Why are ENs so lazy? They don't even have 3D recording obligations.

>>37577373
Only IRyS seems capable of getting anything out of Kronii but IRyS has that effect on a lot of people.

>>37577319
Fauna no longer talks with Kronii

>>37577319
Fauna gave up on Kronii, and Kronii gave up on both Hololive and streaming as a whole.

>>37577365
It's sovl
More importantly it was a totsu

>>37577370
gura centa: the fan art

Why did Okayu out Mr. Koro as being 36 years old?

>>37577319
Fauna and Kronii literally only have 1 single one on one collab.

>>37577319
I assume Fauna is doing Wither prep for her Kiara collab
I'm not sure what Kronii will be doing, probably working on her bunker? So they have different goals I guess.

>>37577333
>you showed Myth graphs except Gura
I got Gura after hours

SIXTY (60) DAYS AVERAGE AND MEDIAN, MYTH

>>37332172 :: Mori (massive recline, lowest point on record)
>>37332617 :: Ame (stable on a low point, near the lowest point on record)
>>37347227 :: Kiara (stable on a low point, lowest point on record)
>>37522700 :: Gura (returning to the mean)

>>37577333
He showed Gura already, you can find it in the archives. Irys and Ina got skipped until they come back

>>37577496
>I assume Fauna is doing Wither prep for her Kiara collab
She's not. The Kiara collab IS the wither prep. What she's doing is fixing up her village that she essentially took over, and making a trading hall of her own because she (without saying it) thinks Phoenixton is shit (she's right)

>>37577319
I remember when Kronii went menhera on their first 1 on 1 collab.

>>37577410
>stream 3 to 5 times per week only
if only...

>>37577496
she wanted to build a clock tower

>>37577370
Would gura be able to survive a collab with haachama and marine?

>>37577496
The collab was supposed to be Wither prep

>>37577544
>Fauna's trading hall
soulless
>Phoenixton
sovl

Be sure to watch my Hololive debut in January!

>>37577565
I want more 3D Fauna.

>>37577564
Yes, but only once.

>>37577532
>>Gura (returning to the mean)
>clearly below her mean with no sign of stopping
what did chartanon mean by this?

>>37577596
mumei you already got in you don't need to keep baiting /here/

>>37577319
Kronii and Mori (ugly man voice) are too cool to solo collab with girls with cute voicesyhww0

>>37577596
Be sure to delete your boyfriend tweets before debut

>>37577601
She said that she may do a Ring Fit stream with the Low Poly. She just doesn't really know how to set it up properly.

>>37577590
>Fauna's trading hall
You can actually find what you need
>Phoenixton
Have to run around like a fucking retard and hope to find the right villager because there's eight of them with six of them not even leveled.

>>37577645
doesn't change anything I said

>>37577532
These Myth graphs are sickening (with the exception of Gura's, which is just slightly concerning).
I assume it's pointless to hope someone in management is looking at similar insights so I guess I won't even say it

>>37577667
I bet you like PPP over FFF you fag

>>37577496
>Kiara collab
Oh God please no

>>37577370
Is that Delta?

>>37577778
Nah fuck off. Kiara is the only other person in EN who actively wants to do the Wither. 2 people dragging those other ungrateful bitches into playing Minecraft again is better than 1.

>>37577622
"Return to the mean" in this context is the coming out of a peak caused by events
She's running below her (way exaggerated) midpoint but way above her historical min, with somewhat "normal" range since May being 14k-19k. and her present number being 16k

>>37577824
so just coping I see

>>37577679
>These Myth graphs are sickening
Now do the same with CouncilRyS.

Cover does not have a performance manager
Cover does not have a product manager
Cover does not have a brand manager

>>37577887
>Now do the same with CouncilRyS.
SIXTY (60) DAYS AVERAGE AND MEDIAN, COUNCIL

>>37317439 :: Kronii (reclining, lowest point on record)
>>37317469 :: Fauna (stable on a high point)
>>37317875 :: Mumei (reclining, lowest point on record)
>>37318164 :: Bae (stable on a low point, lowest point on record)

Ina and IRyS aren't included because of their breaks

>>37577887
>>37577940
So, also somewhat sickening, with the exception of Fauna
A few more months of this and HoloEN will just be Gura, Fauna, and the wreckage.

>>37575468
>wanting to be a girl

>>37577940
>everyone is on their historical low point except for Fauna which is inclining
Why the fuck are there faggots keep saying that "hard work does not matter"
>hard work is not the only thing that matters
Is not a legit response because all the ENs are clearly slacking off. I am not asking them to be like Koyori but at least stream as frequent as Iroha.

>>37578031
All according to her plan.

>>37578145
sasuga GuraIna daughter

>Faunaschizo is gone
FINALLY
>There's Baeschizo instead
FUCK

>>37578132
>Why the fuck are there faggots keep saying that "hard work does not matter"
Because Gura exists.

>>37578167
>GuraIna daughter
god I hope not, I enjoy more than 1 stream per week

How high will this go for a b-day celebration?
https://youtu.be/BDU8FKmRfZI

>>37578132
Bae and Ame stream a lot and they're shitters

>>37578132
They clearly got burned out/morale is low, but what caused it is anyone's guess.

>>37578179
>Faunaschizo is gone
What threads have you been reading

>>37578132
I mean, Bae and Mumei are at university, so their inclines during the summer to their fall drops are at least explainable. As far as I know, Kronii doesn't have the same excuse and Fauna is a trust fund baby who never had to actually do any labor or higher education because she had a silver spoon from birth.

>>37577940
Mumei reclined more thant everyone but this thread shits on everyone else but her, I'm tired of the special treatment you all give to the fucking owl

>>37577940
>>37578031
Fauna is the only EN with the green line above the pink line.

>>37578132
I say in Fauna's case it's less about hard work (which is a factor but that would have carried Kiara up as well) and more about
>cultivating an audience not predominantly comprised of tourists, clipwatchers and social media dwellers

>>37578223
4k

>>37578237
Bae is a bad streamer with a bad voice and Ame tries to alienate her viewers on purpose.

>>37578223
it's nina so 4k

>>37578223
Is this really the woman that tried to leech off Luxiem? Pretty shameless if so.

>>37578255
>Fauna is a trust fund baby who never had to actually do any labor or higher education because she had a silver spoon from birth.
She has literally talked about having office jobs

>>37578184
She is reclining "to the baseline" too.

>>37578278
>Bae is a bad streamer with a bad voice
So no different from Fauna?

>>37578316
If hard work mattered, she'd already have sunk below that point long ago.

>>37578278
Thank you for agreeing that hard work is not the means to incline

>>37578245
>morale is low
Then the beating from management shall continue.

>>37578237
Not enough stream from Bae. Ame cranked all her streaming hours on 1 day which tired out her viewers.

I feel like this is just /uuu/ thread.

>>37578370
If you replace bad with good I guess.

>>37578370
Faunas voice is tolerable meanwhile Bae is the Kiara of Council.

>>37578373
It is the other way around. Hard does matter because if she work harder she can maintain her 20k instead of whatever "baseline" means.

>>37578370
Fauna's voice is relaxing, Bae's voice is obnoxious

>Hard work doesn't matter because [headcanon]
>It is the other way around. Hard work does matter because [headcanon]
this discussion is retarded and pointless

>>37578411
>One girl is actually performing well while everyone else in the branch is declining or stagnating
>Actual proof getting posted of it
>Surprised people talk positively of her

>>37578411
If I said Brazil is the only country with more than 4 World Cups, would call me a monkey?

>>37578470
nta but I like Bae's voice, it's much better than it used to be and is more pleasant than Mumei

>>37578381
For the past month Bae has had multiple days where she streams twice a day what the fuck are you smoking?

>>37578411
This is /uuu/ but all saplings are numberfag.

>>37578490
I can assure you that 0 stream means 0 view. Simple as.

>>37578534
I'd ask why the fuck anybody cares about the shitty sport when there were two 0-0 games in a row.

>>37578569
Saplings are generally always numberfags
Don't visit Global during Fauna streaming hours

>>37578495
>The one girl that streams only buff content without overlap gets slightly better numbers than the others
Meh discussing her is boring

>>37578618
t. Faggot that goes over there to start shit

>>37578569
Saplings are cucks.

>>37578614
I’d ask what the fuck you’d be doing in a divegrass thread then

>>37578618
what are falseflaggers? anyone numberfagging in global is a falseflagger, infact anyone numberfagging outside of this thread is probably a shitposter

>>37578646
I wish mod would post my post history because I have never
It's kind of just a well accepted fact at this point and there's nothing wrong with it

>>37578641
She overlapped 2 people with the same game and got higher numbers than they did.

>>37578618
Come on, Fauna spent her whole career as the runt of council (excluding sana). Just let them be proud of their kirin wife.

>>37578411
It's been like this for a while after jp primetime is over

t>>37578712
The other 2 had massive debuffs.

>>37578698
>Blatant shitposting that sometimes gets deleted en masse is totally an entire fanbase and not just a shitstirrer
Please rope yourself

The worst part about Tempus is that this is their Homo Myth. I shudder to imagine what Homo Council will look like.

>>37578411
It’s called recognizing quality

>>37578770
There were some genuinely innocent HoloJP posters that got collateral deleted along with the rest and were confused, that proves nothing.

>>37578265
Fauna along with Ina and IRyS also have "safe" personalities where you know they'll be calm and not randomly blow up during a stream.

>>37578783
What did Vesper actually do? I hope it is not some form of sexual harassment.

>>37578834
Go fuck yourself, shitposter.

>>37578245
>They clearly got burned out
Something definitely happened.

Here is a slightly different chart from usual
> Number of streams in 60 days
for Gura.

She had over
>45 streams per 60 days
in 2020, then it dropped to a
>35 streams per 60 days
for most of 2021 and up until March 2022, then it FUCKING PLUMMETED to
>under 25 streams per 60 days
since then, reaching 15 streams per 60 days in the end of August.

The sudden drop in March 2022 clearly indicates something changed for Gura.
Any close fan knows what happened around that date? Did she take a break and return different or something?

I recall Gura having the coof or something like that around that time.

>>37578770
what is this cope, even most chumbuds don't numberfag while she's streaming, but saplingss have a disproportionate amount of numberfags compared to their size and it ends up leaking there

>>37578871
Lifestyle change

>>37578867
Concession accepted anon
I'm not saying an ENTIRE fanbase is shitty
I'm just saying that there are a substantial amount of saplings who are genuine numberfags even outside of this thread and that's normal with a fanbase that big
Bad apples mixed with the good ones

>>37578873
Oh you got tired of using sapplings so now you're using saplingss now? I ask you again, please go rope yourself. You're acting like this retarded numberfaggotry hadn't started with the whole "homobeggar vs unicorn" shit. You're acting as if people haven't been using Fauna for fucking months to start shit just so that had she ever "turned" they would be able to falseflag in the other fucking direction. Please just die.

I don't care about Tempus and reclining EN numbers, I just want EN3 to finally find myself a replacement for the shark, as I finally had enough

>>37578871
she started posting here

>>37578873
take one look at this thread and you can see how much falseflagging as saplings there is, she is just the current toy

>>37578873
It is literally one guy, they always try to start Kiara vs Fauna and get mass deleted
>>37578834
>Innocent
I mean isn't that proof they're not innocent of they got deleted too?

>>37578904
Elaborate?

>>37578950
Anon there are 9 other girls you can't tell me one somehow didn't tickle your fancy. Just because they add 5 more doesn't mean you'll find a replacement either

>”e-every numberfag sapling is a falseflag!”
What do you call this?

>Bae was the first HoloEN to stream Pokemon SV and during Gura's timeslot with no overlap
>Bae will be the first HoloEN to stream Persona 5 and during Gura's timeslot with no overlap for the first hour
Could be a fun comparison.

>>37578966
You DO realize that it's entirely feasible for there to be a shitty sub section of a fanbase right? it's not always false flaggers and not everyone is a good bean

>>37578993
I feel like I am too late for Councilrys, I want a fresh start.

>>37579037
Reason.

>>37579037
we all know saplings are either numberfags or closet numberfags

>>37579046
The one in global is a blatant fucking falseflag nigger. Like he literally starts "Fauna vs Kiara/Ame/Mori/whoever the fuck he feels like it" almost every fucking day and samefags into oblivion and then gets mass deleted.

>>37579037
delusion

>>37578871
Well she literally told us, i bet if you did a graph of projects vs streams it would be inverse.

What would a graph of ceiling vs floor look like, like average of lowest X vs highest X per month

>>37579046
You do realize just one person can shit up a thread, right? What, are we going to talk about brats being numberfags because of the one person here using Bae to shit over everyone else?

>>37579037
Cope

>>37579037
You can be a numberfag without being retarded

>>37579037
It's you.

>>37579037
I don't even know why are they so shameful about it.
Like cmon, they even started coping the "PekoMiko daughter" ritual. Why bother denying your attitude?

>>37578871
The one thing I know is her holocure stream in early september she was totally off and something was clearly wrong irl
could have been a long time thing that was going on for a while

>>37578381
>beating from management
I think the exact opposite is true, it doesn't seem like they're doing enough. Take your pick of whether it's incompetence, malice, or both, but it doesn't seem like they really push them to do anything. Or worse, they don't have any power, leverage, or a healthy enough relationship with the talents to do so at all. I don't know if Cover has tenure for their talents, but after a certain point it just feels like they're allowed to run themselves into the ground (Matsuri, Haachama, etc.)

>>37579253
Anon... both the Pekomiko daughter ritual and the bootleg copy are obvious false flags designed to get people to shit on them. In fact it's probably you.

>>37579253
>they
Its just one retard. Seriously what is the gura/ina daughter bullshit? They are nothing alike. Never watched a Fauna stream probably. (You) are part of the problem if you take their shitposts at facevalue.

>>37576571
Jealous huh? If it makes you feel better no one will ever love you as much people loves holos.

>>37579037
>What do you call this?
the same take i have seen with every other fandom on here

>>37579329
Now that you mention it. Fauna basically is some kind of fusion between the good parts of both Gura and Ina

>>37579329
I guess it's because both Gura and Ina get high/stable numbers

>>37579397
She fucking wishes, she's much less entertaining than both of them

Are sub boxes still broken? I thought Nina would be a little higher but she's leveling off below 3k

>>37578993
I want a hardworking girl who will focus on, well, working hard instead of complaining about difficulties. I don't actually mind the complaints, just don't let it affect your work / streams.

>>37579468
>less entertaining than Ina
No need to go that far

>>37579489
Literally no one likes Nina

I'm banning all discussion of Fauna from this thread until her stream tonight.

>>37579489
>Are sub boxes still broken
No

>>37579051
>>37579492
watch Irys 2.0

>>37579520
anon, Ina zatsus is probably the best out of all ENs (yeah even better than Gura's), when comparing their gameplay streams versus zatsus number-wise

>>37579559
He said hardworking

>>37579559
If she starts streaming as often as she did during her first 3 months again, maybe

>>37579559
IRyS complains more than anyone but Kiara and isn't particularly hard working

>>37579531
She's the only option until the ILUNA collab tonight so it's not like people have a choice
Maybe it'll go up when people come in, even Aster got like 6k for his birthday and he's even less liked.

>>37579262
It looks like someone in her life (family, friends) got really sick (maybe terminally) which would explain lower number of streams (to be with that person or take care of them), long unannounced breaks (ilness getting worse) and no schedule (so no need to cancel streams, no need to stream when feeling sad or depressed).A small increase in consistency right now (at least attempt was made) may have been caused by either death or recovery of that person.

>>37579623
It really fucking isn't. I'm not going to say it's shit but you're out of your fucking mind or don't watch much other ENs

>>37579638
>>37579652
>>37579660
She will be hardworking with her new model, she said it

>>37579673
This is /#/, anon. All are gauge here using numbers. Ina zatsus numbers are almost the same as her gaming streams.

>>37579684
Actions speak louder than words, anon

>>37579623
>Even better than Gura's
Ogey Tako
They're good but c'mon now

>>37578871
It's probably when Tempus got introduced to the shared Discord

>>37579673
Don't get riled up Sapling, Ina has great zatsu

>>37579726
Her zatsu is drawing stream right?

>>37579684
No, she won't. She will stream 15or fewertim3s in December and will never hit 20 streams in a month. I'm not even worried about a grudgepost. She recorded two whole songs between the end of June and now and still only streamed ~12 times a month. She has less streams this year than anyone but Ina.

>>37579726
>All are gauge here using numbers
Oh how I'd wish that to be true. But follow the thread anon. You replied to a couple schizos arguing about who is more "entertaining" which is completely subjective.

>>37579732
you need reading comprehension anon, I said better retention, not quality. Her gaming are 10k~, her zatsus are 8-9k~

>>37579746
>Sapling,
Kiara's is literally the best in EN, why the fuck are you instantly defaulting to sapling

>>37579774
Enjoy the future grudge posts.

gloves are sexy

>>37579827
I'm not even him but her compromise was "stream less hours but more streams in total" and you know for a fact her retarded addicted as won't do that.

>>37579774
15 8 hour streams is a lot, anon

>>37579814
>A fucking KFPling

>>37579559
nah. I too am also a chumbud, and I want an EN Kaela. Just stream stream and more stream. Fuck idol fuckery. I don't need that shit anymore. Gura had me traumatized

>>37579814
Kiara's zatsus are only good if you are heavily infatuated with her otherwise shit sounds like listening to some random-ass girl at hospital's waiting room that can't disconnect from her phone
She's fine when she has interesting topic but the problem is that she tangents out of it way too frequently

I forgive Gura for lack of streams mainly because she will go to Japan soon. And IIRC she mentioned she needs to memorize a lot of songs which probably for her trip to JP.
Sure I would love for more Gura but if she regularly streams I wouldn't notice the other girls like Irys fauna and mumei.

>>37579898
anon, Gura's lack of streams has nothing to do with idol shit lmao

>>37579668
That's what I assume as well. Seems the most likely thing given the steady decline until her 2 week break after her 3D live

>>37579948
Let the chumbud cope

>>37579948
Nah, it does. She clearly is aiming for the Aqua route (her oshi). With months long of barely streaming, then some 3D performances here and there, then some sponsored stream. Yeah it's not happening YET, but that's her endgame.

>>37579898
>Fuck idol fuckery.
There are people in EN taking classes and vocal training and dance training and still doing 6 streams a week, you realize it's just a Gura issue specifically right?

>>37579736
The male auditions weren't even being accepted until March, which was a month after the first dropoff in February.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/t6jlnj/male_vtuber_auditions_for_hololive_english_are/..
Which I guess lines up in a coincidental way with the graph, if that's how you want to interpret it.

>>37579885
She doesn't stream for 8 hours and 15 is a number incmuding collabs which are always shorter.

>>37579929
the problem right now is that mumei, bae and now fauna are just cmaping the night timeslot.
like why the fuck?
so it measn less people will see each one of them since they never finish soon enough to do a funnel they all end at the same time.

>>37580053
Who?

>>37575170
Btw what were the expectations for Korone? Did she beat them? Any announcements?

>>37580089
Fauna has a reason, and it should stop after this week. Hell, it stops after today, outside of the collab which is clearly not her fault.

>>37580109
Bae and Fauna.

>>37580053
and who in them had a Cover-produced 3D performance aside from Mori? And Mori is in Japan to begin with.

>>37580089
Fauna is only there right now because she's trying to do ASMR at night to avoid trucks and she she has signing classes at her usual time on Tuesday.

>>37580132
What is Fauna's reason for streaming at this slot? Genuinly curious

>>37580206
See >>37580171

>>37580171
Her asmr is really falling off
should take off today and stream on firday or tuesday
now she is gonna fuck everyone numbers including hers.