/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

RAPE

>>37566666
you mean the stuff that were popularized by unironic weebs?
the only actual organic jap meme is the cardboard gundam and even then it was more popular outside japan than inside it.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>>37566732
What about the neet fanbase

GO KING GO

>>37566760
>INDOCHADS

>>37566736
Recent clip numbers
>>37559556
>>37559578
>>37559617
>>37559662
>>37559693

>>37566747
... Isn't cardboard gundam a western meme that spread to japan? I'm pretty sure this guy was the first guy who did the meme

After a year of numberfagging, I'm really tired now. I don't think Hololive would lose anytime soon, but I do think they've cemented their legacy in the entertainment world as the TOP vtubing company. Their talents are amazing, their 3D lives are spectacular and they've provided a lot of hope for people during Quarantine. Nijisanji as second, is gonna be just that. Really forgettable.

>>37566732
>HoloJP's fanbase is too busy karoshi-ing to make memes.
only proves that hololive would not be in the position that they are in without the esl/eop audience putting them on the map.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>53,522: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>41,951: Miko (Hololive)
>35,739: Fubuki (Hololive)
>25,207: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,137: Fubuki (Hololive)
>17,684: Aqua (Hololive)
>16,123: Botan (Hololive)
>15,262: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>15,252: Chloe (Hololive)
>14,570: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,876: Mio (Hololive)
>13,586: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,273: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,194: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,858: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,563: Calli (Hololive)
>10,533: Ame (Hololive)

>>37566784
The nijinigger fears the indochad

>>37566804
Its one of the rare occasions where spread bigger in japan first then in then west but the western spread eventually overshadowed the jap one.

>>37566821
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 110,897 - 4th anniversary 3D live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53,522 - Pokemon Scarlet w/QED

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Suisei
1x: Flare, Koyori, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
212x: Hololive
100x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
50x: Pekora
21x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura
4x: Koyori, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>Pekora just deleted all her tweets about Messi and today's match
>Probably losing huge bet
AHAHAHAHA

>>37566808
>After a year of numberfagging, I'm really tired now.
Just numberfag responsibly

>>37566808
Nobody remembers losers, anon. Hololive vs Nijisanji reminds me of Khabib vs Conor. One grew up right and only fighting for legacy, One fights for money. Khabibs beats Conor so fucking hard, he even went outside the cage to fight their corner.

>>37566808
You forgot to talk about companies like VSP0

>>37566858
heh serves her right, the tsu is the only god king of divegrass

Tempus's dog is not being saved out of 3view today...

>"#2 in EN"
>Can't even get gold
Green whore mogged

>>37566860
Nah, it's unfun being tribal when it's one-sided.

>>37566880
>Khabib vs Conor
wut?

>>37566854
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
206x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
49x: Pekora
30x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
20x: Marine
14x: Subaru
12x: Suisei
11x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Fubuki
4x: Aqua, Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
210x: Hololive
98x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro
1x: Holostars, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
33x: Miko, Subaru
32x: Pekora
26x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>37566808
B-b-but muh annual financial profit!

>>37566760
>Parasocial numberfag losing to Indo girl playing FIFA IN PRIME TIME CN
The recline is massive

>>37566808
You're only supposed to numberfag for fun and ignore the numberschizos.

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>37566808
>After a year of numberfagging, I'm really tired now
Horse racing got more pathetic at the latter half of 2022 when the other side decides to cheat and use steroids

>>37566808
s-shut up

>>37566760
Grim

>>37566804
it was a bigger meme in japan first before the west.

lmao this dragonball discussion is hilarious

Get fucked green whore. You won't even get silver either.

Kek, I was about to say it was impressive that ID's dung eater could get that high, but then I realized she only got that high because the other girls' viewers were using her stream as a waiting room.
Still, 9k is 9k.

Kobo bleeds so many viewers

> "Bulma is Goku's daughter right?" - Ui
> "No, she's his girlfriend" - Subaru
fucking kek

>samefagging for hours
>sp in vt

Mental illness is real

<DENTAL PLAN!
>Meru-sama Needs Braces
<DENTAL PLAN!
>Meru-sama Needs Braces
<DENTAL PLAN!
>Meru-sama Needs Braces

Funnily enough, most of the big moments for HoloJP happen when Mel is absent. JP7 incoming?

>>37567049
>conveniently cutting off Kobo
the nijinigger fears the INDOCHAD

>>37567051
>her real numbers are 5k
Yeah, that's about right.

>>37566975
When you think about, Salami really saved Niji this year, Ranunculus,Noctyx, the other VTA graduates and Iluna flare barely a success and Luxiem is nothing without CN

>>37567072
>most of the big moments for HoloJP happen when Mel is absent
That girl simply cannot catch a break, is there any chuuba that has failed to be there for every time hololive has went through some big boost except Mel and perhaps Mio to an extent?

>>37567158
Aki, but Pekora saved her.

>>37567053
She can't stop talking about her gachi, people fed up

Remember when these would get 10k+

>>37567158
Aki, in an even worse fashion than Mel

>>37565966
In the land of chuubas, it also matters whether whoever is doing the shilling is passionate about it.
Luna getting a Yamaha sponsorship? Fucking perfect, since she uses their products and streams using it.
Towa occasionally jokes asking for a Herman Miller sponsorship since she's a chair ergonomics autist.
Subaru actually liked that sausage kusoge so much (even shilling it to other holos) that she got a direct collab from them.
Same with Ko'one and Sonic.
I'd argue that this passion is more important than audience matching, since if you're passionate about something on stream, your audience is more likely to be the same as well - thanks to pic related.

Predictions for RBC’s return stream?
https://youtu.be/LSBTywLtGIA

Probably slow on this but i just saw ethyrias getting new outfits based on the queen cards and 4 suits in it neat

>>37567252
Gura is passionate about taco bell fries?

>>37567301
i find it funny that enna gets the queen of spades considering what recently happened with her.

>>37567301
BLACKED

>>37566534
One thing I've noticed browsing Futaba and even the Imgur-links of 5ch is that the Japanese tend to make more reaction images that get used maybe once as everyone is cropping manga pages or TV shows or whatever. In contrast, on the Western Internet, people tend to quickly fall in line and use just a select few images of which then variations and sometimes fusions are made. I suspect this is because Japanese culture is more individualistic and values creativity whereas Western societies are collectivistic in nature and habitually hammer the nails that stick out back in. In vtubing we can also see this: Japan is what gave birth to the phenomenon and it is where most of the advances are made. Meanwhile in the West, vtubers in all their endeavours are instinctively reaching for the social approval associated with their predecessors, the Twitch streamers, regardless of whether it makes sense or not.

>>37567347
I think she likes taco bell

>GRIMGANG ASSEMBLE!

I don't think he can bounce up from this, is there even anyone to either funnel or raid him?

>>37566266
There's plenty of JP memes, it's just that most of them are in-jokes that you just won't see outside of the chuuba's live chat or their own discussion spaces.
e.g. Ui's long running Line stamp joke, Korone's 圧, Aqua's あてぃし etc.

Oh no king foob is coming! Akaina is too strong!

>>37567252
>it also matters whether whoever is doing the shilling is passionate about it.
passion counts for shit in the en sphere when it comes to shilling anon, people are just fed up with it due to how bad and retarded i was.

>>37567375
All these words just to cope with the reality that vtubing would be nothing without EN memes putting it on the map.

SilverFox about to claim her silver

>>37567286
Solid 3-4k, max.

>>37567252
>>37567413
The only good sponsorship was the ina pixiv collab aside from Gura's taco bell. Mixed well for both. There's also ame paladin, why did she use her 1M wish for that shit tho

NumbersCHADS, how do I see who is livestreaming on Youtube without using the retarded sidebar?

>>37567348
Oh right i forgot queen of spades connotation bad ennaschizo doesnt exist anymore. Also what happened

>>37567393
So they're irrelevant memes that don't even have half the mindshare of a single 'a', why do you even bring it up?

>>37567375
>Japanese culture is more individualistic and values creativity whereas Western societies are collectivistic in nature
Shouldn't it be the other way around?

>>37567413
> passion counts for shit in the en sphere
is there a single example among the English Speaking hemisphere where a company sponsored someone who was genuinely passionate about that product and got shit returns for it?

>>37567051
This wouldn't have happened months ago, overlap hardly affected kobo. Is it the livestream bug?

>>37567387
no one there to raid you today Axel

>>37567375
>I suspect this is because Japanese culture is more individualistic and values creativity whereas Western societies are collectivistic in nature
Anon its literally the opposite, Japs and asians are more collectivestic and the west is more individualistic. The "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" is literally a jap proverb.

>>37567475
>using YT bar
You know we have holodex and vrabi now, right?

>Helped by other faggots
>Still lose to a lone FBKING

>>37567475
Holowatch

>>37567478
Made a fried chicken joke on stream or something like that.

>>37567489
Stop living in the past.

>>37567375
>I suspect this is because Japanese culture is more individualistic and values creativity whereas Western societies are collectivistic in nature and habitually hammer the nails that stick out back in.
What the fuck? You got it absolutely the other way around.

There is a reason Asian humor (gooks, chink and japs) use those GIANT OVERLAID CHARACTERS in their screens, those small rectangles on the corner with guests making exaggerated reactions to what's being shown in the screen and, in korea and china's case, they still resort to canned laughter (laughing tracks) to provide even more cue to the audience that something is supposed to be laughed about.
Asians are collectivists to an extreme and the biggest complaint the japanese have about heir own society is exactly the fact you need to either conform or be cast out as a pariah.

You are confusing creativity in arts and humor with the current predominant western "culture wars" orthodoxy, which forces you to "color within a very well delimited line" or be cancelled but that's something recent and exclusive to the western mainstream, it doesn't apply to fan made content

>>37567471
I think people forget but Gura shilled blue archive and groove coaster pretty well. To the point where groove coaster also generated plenty of clips (aka extra impressions people here never think about, even though sponsored streams 100% benefit from them unlike regular streams)

>>37567252
Western whores has no passion anymore. Simple.

>>37567520
>>37567558

what about the channels I'm subbed in like Linus Gay Tips, Jizz2cents and others?

>>37567387
So what does this place Axel in starsjp hierarchy

>>37567478
Anon you have zero clue on how the JP sphere works.
なーほーね started out as Korone's thing, but it has spread so far and wide that you can even find people in JP fleshtuber chats using it.
Same with おハーブですわ〜 which is on the same level in Japan as Gura's "a" used to be in the EN sphere.
They have plenty of memes, you'll just never see them because you'r obviously an EOP.

>>37567547
Silver king slip

>>37567475
Home -> live

>>37567574
> cunny archive
I mean... she was definitely passionate about it

>>37567387
They're 3views now?

>>37567547
Holomen now taking turn beating the shit out of him.

the gura talk makes me miss my daughterwife more......

>>37567616
I'm not subbed to nijiggers and homos
I pressed the fucking subscription button and chose to enable or disable the bell for each channel for a reason...

>>37567242
Uhh wasn't this a "return" stream? Also if you wanted to numberfag right, why wouldn't you make it a karaoke "Singing till 1.2m subs" or some shit?

no my ui medal...

Salomeeeeee tasuketteeeeeee please play pokemon!!!!!!!!!!!

king reduced into holos punching bag nowadays...

>>37567584
>all these memes
>that never get clipped
>that never get shared on Twitter
Uh huh very influential memes that no one knows about

Bronzeboy made a dash for silver, Fubuki put him back in his assigned place

>>37567486
thats the thing 95% of the time company sponsored stuff are done by people who are not passionate about the product which is why you get shit returns while the other 5% are usually by people who are to small to get actual decent returns for the company standard. One of the otk members discussed about this months ago.

>>37567620
Can't blame her for that

>>37567630
>now
they always try to raid each other to hide it

>>37567481
>>37567516
>>37567573
NTA, but I kinda get where he's coming from.
Western REAL world is individualistic as hell, and so Western Internet became collectivistic since the Internet is 90% comprised of people who mostly have no success irl.
Same with Japan, where they're collectivistic as hell irl, and so the people using the Internet are those that are outcasts from that society - i.e. individualistic as hell.
So Western internet is collectivistic, and Japanese internet is more individualistic.

Are we all just pretending that
>teetee
>www/grass
>cold chicken
>first army
>Yagoo
>TSKR
aren’t heavily influential JP memes?

>>37567693
Just gotta train the Algo by telling it not to recommend Niji stuff whenever it pops up.

>>37567711
frog, well etc. etc.

>>37567745
>first army
really nigger?

>>37567745

>>37566915
Tell that to /uhg/.

>>37567745
Well apparently according to retards it doesn't count if it doesn't get clipped, no matter how widespread the meme is.

>>37567252
Kiara became a Tales Of ambassador and got a SMT V sponsorship too, too bad Arise was shit and SMT V couldn't be finished because Atlus are retards with their streaming rules

>>37567720
is there any example among the twitchfags or the more "mainstream" western internet where someone got a sponsorship for something they were passionate about?

this dogshit pokemon game is laggy as hell.

>>37566858
Yeah she did but the 2nd line is pure fanfiction

>>37567745
More than half of those you listed were heavily popularized by the EN fanbase anon. Also
>first army
That’s not even a meme.
>Cold chicken
Less than 5% of the holo fanbase even knows of this or cares whatsoever

The only one there that has strong JP ties is TSKR

>>37567827
oh right, completely forgot that Kiara was a Talesfag...
what happened to it anyway, did she not go back and play the older tales games afterwards? I thought she was a fan or smth..

>>37567744
>the only people in japan using the internet are outcasts from society
wut? jap and asian internet is collectivistic compared to western internet anon. most western people/topic/post on the interent is literally me me me.

>>37567055
Ah shit do not show /dbs/ this, they already cuckpost Bulma enough

>>37567780
but I'm subbed to holo EN
jokes aside, holos do collabs with homos and nijis so it's impossible
I guess I'll wait for Youtube fix it someday

Also, handlers are stupid

>>37567823
>it doesn't count if it doesn't get clipped, no matter how widespread the meme is.
Typical clipnigger behaviour.

>>37567745
>lists a bunch of memes that no one would have heard of if it wasn't for EN fans popularizing it
Good job sinking your own argument

>>37567582
2nd since this is the max debuff you can give on his streams

>>37567744
>Western REAL world is individualistic as hell, and so Western Internet became collectivistic since the Internet is 90% comprised of people who mostly have no success irl.
>Same with Japan, where they're collectivistic as hell irl, and so the people using the Internet are those that are outcasts from that society - i.e. individualistic as hell.
Anon you are describing the internet in the 90's the current internet is not outcasts but mainstream.

>>37567905
>ENSharts are mostly clipniggers
Checks out.

Oh shit
Yugo is actually going to get cripple gold kek

>>37567745
>list memes that have been popularized by esl
wut?

>>37567823
You forgot your name Last Samurai

>>37567252
I mean, Botan and Aqua's Redbull sponsorship ... Tho I'd argue it works better for Botan than Aqua, given the later is full on idol now

>>37567745
only tskr is a jp meme the rest were popularized by westerners/eop/esl.

>>37567962
>Anon discovers timezones are a thing

>>37567375
>Japanese culture is more individualistic
Anon?

>>37567916
>if it hasn't spread to his EOP circle it's irrelevant
>if it has spread to his EOP circle it's now EN territory and was only popularized because of EN

>>37567888
Nah, I've seen the reactions of people to yabs online plenty of times.
If there isn't a botnet running a spam campaign (as in the case of any anti holo stuff, like Aloe or the Janitor thing) there's usually very nuanced and individualistic opinions about any topic.
e.g. the Salome thing, there were a lot of people taking sides with Salome and Ibrahim, and there was very little agreement between the two sides.

>>37568015
>grass
>Yagoo
>teetee
>popularized by ESL
u fokken wat

En chuubas cannot be saved. Case point:

During rust arc, no oneeeeeeeeeeeeeee wants to be the butt of the joke for the team. Gura shoot ame and ame got mad, ooooh drama. That was en chuubas in a nutshell.

>>37567823
>no matter how widespread the meme is
And how do you think the meme gets spread around if not for EN fans, genius?

>>37567962
I mean clips are the reason why hololive is as big as they are today anon. Without it hololive would be below vspo

>>37568088
>he thinks the Japanese internet is anywhere near as big, as relevant or as influential as the English internet

>>37568053
Aqua is arguably more suited since she actually loves redbull and often uses it as her choice drink on streams, and talks about it a lot as well.
her chat often teases her about her redbull addiction as well.

>>37568092
yes

>>37568111
revisionismchama...
the meme clips helped, but thelong compilations ones where what helped shit stick

Did no one notice that Friend Pokemon kicked King out of the podium?

>>37568099
The best thing about en rust arc was gura, suisei and pekora interaction and bae and irys.

my recommendations look pretty normal

>>37567574
>Cunny game
>Rhythm game
I mean, it worked

>>37568178
meme clips made hololive anon
literally any other vtuber company would kill for the clip power hololive has.

Holy shit, even with a return numberfagging stream Vox could just barely push past a 1 hour Fauna ASMR stream. That's so fucking bad.

>>37567916
>>37568015
>>37567869
Popularized by JP, you EOPs only think you’re responsible due to your being stuck in your little bubble. The only comparable EN original meme is “Hi honey.”

>>37567836
i dunno the end result, but i remember shroud was pretty passionate about some coffee sponsorship he got some years ago. maybe scream and finalmouse?

>>37568180
retard

>>37568180
Race is over, it's time for history revision get into works.

>>37568247
oh right, iirc Nyanners was also quite passionate about some blade-related thing, which rejected her after learning her content.

>>37568227
>popularized by JP
>all the clips and posts about it on 4ch and leddit are in English
Okay

>>37568227
most of the memes you listed would literally be irrelevant without esl and eops using it anon.
japanese influence is small and insignificant and is the reason why hololive beats nijisanji.

>>37567745
Anon, this place is not an indication of how "Widespread" shits are

>>37568198
It's a mobile-only bug, since it splits off 'subbed channels' into their own tab, which is where the problems are..l

Green whore can't even get cripple silver. Absolutely fucking pathetic

> Friend Pokemon just became a Gozaru collab
I thought JPs didn't do impromptu collabs

>Literally camping this thread because no one would give this retard a (You)
Pathetic kek

>esl/eop had no bearing or influence on hololive being where they are today.
I always found that argument funny considering that esl/eop are defending holojp.

>>37568310(me)
Gotta correct myself, it also affects desktop too, so yea, subscription tab not showing LIVESTREAMS that are active is the specific bug.

>>37568218
Both. Niji also has a great clip power but they seemed to hate attention at the beginning. Like Pewdiepie noticing Rin, and then her following Final Fantasy spam.

>>37568382
i see

>>37567745
Most if not all of those are insignificant.

>>37567573
>(laughing tracks)
Pioneered by Monty Python in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Hailed as one of the most creative and influential comedy troupes of all time and a perfect example: Their fans are well-known for practicing and performing their sketches, sometimes dozen minutes long, in their entirety unsolicited and to the approval of everyone around them. Were they Japanese, they might be inspired to create sketches of their own – I need only to point out the author of Full Metal Panic! for a non-hypothetical example – but Westerners value tradition, and consequently are at great pains to show their appreciation by memorizing and repeating the original performance as perfectly as possible without any original output of their own. Failure to due so would see Westerners exile the person in question as "cringe", a scapegoat sacrificed to the invisible god of societal harmony. Thank you for proving my point.

>>37567516
Ever since Periader of Corinth, one of the Seven Sages of Greece much worshipped, sent to Thrasybulus of Miletus for advice, the Western society has always organized itself around the principle of cutting the ears of grain rising above others. This advice was adopted by Romans and put to the mouth of their revered conquering king Tarquinius Superbus, exhorted by Macchiavelli, and studied by multitude of modern lawgivers starting with the Founding Fathers of United States, obsessed as they were with imitating antiquity – indeed, Washington D.C. is full of unimaginative copies of Ancient Greek temples in a supposedly Christian country. Not that the Christians, Neo-Platonists all, were any better. Or the Neo-Platonists themselves, who simply wrote out the unwritten doctrines of Plato himself.

Man, you guys' recommendation looks better than mine

>>37568418
>Niji also has a great clip power
niji only had majority jap clippers while holo had esl.

>>37567347
Gura is passionate about food, though it doesn't translate to actual cooking ability

>>37567387
So this is post-Vesper tempiss... homoniggers we got too cocky...

>>37568450
>the Western society has always organized itself around the principle of cutting the ears of grain rising above others
Yes but asian societies are on a different level when it comes to collectivism anon, its the reason why they are much more successful when it comes to racial purges and genocides compared to western people. Also why societal hierarchies tend to be more open and accepted in asian cultures.

>>37568524
Whoever that is, the cookbook for her birthday really made her happy. Coincidently her interview is also about promoting bento cookbook

Do you motherfuckers memoryholed GEDDAN or something? jfc. And the Hathaway Flash Pumpkin guy meme??!!!!! Subaru even got viral because of it on NND. Jesus Christ fucking newfags.

Easy 40k for fubuki!

>>37568596
>much more successful when it comes to racial purges and genocides compared to western people
Koreans still exist, anon, Native Americans don't.

>>37568450
But the greeks literally learned that practices from the neo babylonians and people from central asia anon and in fact a lot of greek philosophy was borrowed and influenced from the east.

>>37568342
Gozaru had one with kuroe a few days ago too on pokemon

>>37568661
nononononi. it's popularuzed by ironic weebs so it doesnt count. nonono don't bring up Longcat and Doge either!

>Pekora acknowledges her as her rival in vtubing number race
https://youtu.be/_7tO1Y-Wkzo

>>37568524
Dream offcollab is just cooking streams by other members who then feed her the food live

Did my boy Vox win cripple gold

>"king" collab with 4 top nijis
35k
>friend collab with nin-nin
40k
truly weak.

>>37568690
korean are cockroaches, they never go

>>37568690
The original koreans vanished without a trace anon modern koreans are from siberia/manchuria.
Native Americans still exist.

>>37568718
Isn't it blogging food review is one of her dream job?

>>37568720
yugo will win

>>37568720
Non main tally cripple gold yes

>>37568720
might lose to the tiktok tranny

why does friend getting numbers make me happy bros

>>37568717
Sasuga nousagis

bronze boy...

>>37568710
>doge
>not an EN meme
Dogecoin wasn't made by the Japanese you retard

>>37568750
>The original koreans vanished without a trace anon modern koreans are from siberia/manchuria.
Yeah and the steppe folk are rather different, half-European in fact what with their crucial influence on the European civilization of Russia. Europeans and European-adjacent are really good at genocide, not denying that.

>Native Americans still exist.
Well, I've never seen one.

are we back to Fubuki's 40k+ pokemon streams?

>>37568824
>outing himself as newfag
ngmi

i'm going to kill myself. The thread's too fucking stupid rn.

>>37568750
native americans died out retard, the those red paint indians were migrants

>>37568866
You okay buddy? If not please livestream it lmao

>>37568342
>what is minecraft
Oh wait that is the game that none of the ENs are willing to play kek

>>37568843
you have it in the opposite anon, south siberian steppes are more asian than european. the steppes where they are more european you are refering are the central asian steppes near hungary where they mixed.

seriously chloe...sc reading no.8. these fuckin retard

>>37568951
>Literally 2 MC streams scheduled this week and a collab in the wrorks

>>37568717
>The fucking fast forward
My sides

I jwu what the fuck is this thread?

>>37568973
The Great Turan kneels to no man.

>>37568991
cancer as always

>>37568728
dont forget that the niji collab had a weekend buff too

>>37568980
a smart way to make paypigs like orca invested in her since ive been seeing him more in her chat than in mikes

>>37567375
Nice (You) farm

>>37568991
Milord slipped cripple gold on his return stream and milestone celebration.

>>37568980
>seriously chloe...sc reading no.8. these fuckin retard
Chloe prioritized gachikois over general viewership. It's why I don't see her as a disappointment like Iroha or Laplus because what she's doing is intentional.

>>37569142
You could apply that to anything they do

>>37568984
.... after how long?

>>37568717
Ah so that's the context for thí

>>37568889
10% survived anon while the original koreans got wiped out and largely replaced by people from the northeastern chinese area which is why koreans have 2 genetic components one which is from china and the other unknown.

>>37569133
So who is winning cripple gold? Fauna's ASMR?

>>37569208
Any iona offpako art yet?

>>37569229
yugo

>>37569229
no the niji tranny

>>37569229
In my heart of hearts Fauna won because she's not a chink timezone pandering piece of shit and is an actual EN.
But yeah it's Yugo.

>>37569187
I mean who would want to play minecraft when you werent invited to the companys minecraft event.

>FBK 40k
What the fuck.
Why?

>>37569284
Memes.

>>37569284
Akaina

>>37569284
You'll know why if you're not a newfag

>>37569284
pokemon is her signature content anon.

>>37569284
check my dog slip

I'm trying really hard not to get baited into this offtopic shit discussion, especially because the whole thing started from a completely wrong premise and ended using fucking genocide efficiency as an argument for it.

>>37569284
>no fishing rod
I wonder too.

Is youtube chat not working for anyone else?
Looks like pic related no matter what browser I try.

>>37569393
i mean you really cant beat china especially when it comes to genocide through caniballism

>>37569281
>believing in unfounded rrat created by Kiara

>>37569464
its one of the bugs that popped up when youtube tried to fix the retardation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1l20xhJdT4
GOLD

>>37569464
Wow youtube just can't stop shitting itself today. Did susan forgot to pay the pajeets or something

>>37569515
Ah....Sasuga

>>37569515
I'm amazed that every time they try to fix something, something else completely unrelated breaks

>>37569579
that's just coding in general

>>37569487
I don't even think she understood what she implied when she talked about it
She's just not good at phrasing things, and it's not because of her ESL

>>37569558
it might be worse since theres a rrat that yt might be trying to get those retards from twitter that quit.
>>37569579
thats youtube in a nutshell hell the only reason why bots very rampant was because they tried to fix their system by integrating google+.

>>37567711
To the Japanese, their island is the world. They're like the asian burgers.

>>37569608
ESL is not a universal defense. What she said, whether in English, Japanese or Deutsch is pretty telling what she is trying to convey. I don't think she will get an invitation for next year's undokai because of this.

>>37569552
>She's still reading SC from her 3D reveal stream.
She got way more than 92k$ during that didn't she?

>>37569721
>implying theres gonna be an undokai next year especially with how mojang is handling minecraft and the supposed next security updates.

I love the cope of the girls who own Quaxly have, then there's girls like Shion who say it as it is. It's ugly
https://youtu.be/aME2T8Q3auA
https://youtu.be/aME2T8Q3auA

my cute wife

>>37569745
some probably sc her in members instead of public

>>37569784
>especially with how mojang is handling minecraft and the supposed next security updates.
how?

>>37569791
This generation is full of ugly ass pokemon

>>37569810
That has become more common after the Rushia debacle and the consequent hunt on gachikois

>>37569784
With how the modern deity that is Elon changing commiefornia's tech culture, I think there will be a chance that mojang revert their decision to spy on people.

Then again American spying law is getting stricter and stricter to compete with the chinks.

>>37569393
this is me every thread

>>37569791
Reminds me of Shion rerolling for villagers for hours because she thinks they're ugly

Axel please end your stream, you need to raid Altare or he will be 3view

>>37569791
lazy ass designs indeed

>>37569830
theres a rumor going around that mojang is planning to make/force you to authenticate your mc account by requiring you to link it with your social media account.

oh nyoooo~~

I thought finding shiny pokemons was easier in this game

>>37569911
Wait isn't this what the Chinese government is forcing steam to do?

>>37569941
>finally escaped 3-views hell
congrats Scarle

>>37569941
their charts are gonna be BAD this month

>>37569941

>>37569941
huh, they are really nothing without vesper...
holoEN died for this btw

>>37569991
yeah
i wont be surprised if they push through with it due to being commiefornia and all.

>>37569941
>sexual harassment rrat further ruins and destroy the small goodwill that they had from the hololive fanbase which made the rest of them leave.
kek

>>37566858
?
https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1594957046960431104?s=20&t=Oa6sXQmKjcQ0D8dtS1ynZw
She only deleted the "spam"

>>37570032
>holoEN

>>37569941
'People' clamored and got excited for this branch coming into existence. Where the fuck are they now

>>37569941
Overlap hell

>>37569911
What happens if you don't use social media?

>>37570091
they didn't stay in their lane

>>37570119
true, scarle is taking a lot of their viewers

Do people really not remember the JP OS-tan memes?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSたん

>>37569941
what was the point?
>don't act like children
>improve yourself
>due to popular fan demand!
>unfortunately idol culture

what was the point of it all?

>>37570129
if you use gmail then they just use your google account.

>>37570091
On twitter and reddit trying to convince everyone that tempus is underrated and the girls should collab with them more to give them a spotlight.

Holomonth

>>37570141
anon like every other jp meme the jp os-tan meme was only popular in japan.

So it's a medium flop, but a flop still, right ? 200K day one was decent, but it did sub 40K in the past 12 hours.

>>37570149
just like every market entering the west, to appease "potential fans" that "demand a change to cater them" and that don't understand the underlying culture that was the product of their success in the first place just to be ignored promptly after

>>37570156
So what's the big deal? They already required an email, what's different about this?

>>37570149
to avoid HoloKR or HoloES

>>37570190
Nah i still see comics for modern OS-tans get like 20k likes on twitter

>>37570158
How much of a spotlight do you fucking need?

>>37570180
gotdamn thats a lot of holiday sales

>>37570180
Astel's case is really unfortunate, one of the few stars that actually try and every time he's going to deliver something kino, it gets overlapped by miosha's bd

>>37570158
>On twitter and reddit
even in that area they are also dying
in the end that anon who said that majority of their audience were just unityfags and tourists who fucked off after each female collab was proven right.

>>37570180
Will Aqua beat 100k this time.

>>37570238
and its still only popular by japs anon

>>37568450
>(laughing tracks)
>Pioneered by Monty Python in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
For fuck sake, are you some sort of retard? It was invented by some burger in the 50s
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-apr-25-me-douglass25-story.html

Numberfags can you confirm the rrat of Youtube trying to push out streamers? None of the livestreams are appearing in my subscription inbox

>>37570091
No Vesper means no numbers. Imagine if Gura had got suspended early on.

>>37570087
>first rrat people jumped to was sexual harassment or bothering the talents too much
pottery

>>37570346
we have a tweet from them that they're looking into it so as far as we know it's a bug

>>37570346
they are not trying, they are just retarded

>>37566745
stop it Vesper

>>37570327
>For fuck sake, are you some sort of retard?
He is, the fact that he used greek philosophy as an example when it was heavily influenced by eastern philosophy.

>>37570254
Eh doesn't really matter. Most holofans won't watch him without the overlap anyway

>>37570346
>None of the livestreams are appearing in my subscription inbox
Merely a ruse

>>37570346
Its not trying youtube is just that retarded.

>>37570239
All the company’s resources and the biggest stages just so they can net another 100 viewers. No expense spared for Yagoo’s golden children.

>>37570267
Isn't it just a regular birthday stream since the studio was fully booked and it will take time for the outside studio recording to reach the necessary quality?

>>37570440
Oh right, that happened.

>>37570255
It’ll only get worse once a HoloEN gets another gen cause they lose their shiny toy status.

>>37566224
kari chan kakoi!

>>37570346
I remember seeing video premieres, but no streams for the past couple of days on my end.

>>37570440
if it's a totsu, that's a 60k+

>>37570475
>the reason en3 doesnt exist this year

>>37570346
>paid millions to poach LIVESTREAMERS from twitch
>pay pajeets to destroy the site's livestreaming infrastructure
Woman CEOs

>>37570390
Nah, he has a point with that one, "neo classical" culture is a "cargo culture" copy of what they THINK ancient greek culture used to be.
Here is an example: pristine white marble statues.

Ancient greek statues were painted and colored bright, but the pigment didn't survive the passage of time so only the underlying white marble survived.
Come western civilization a couiple of milleniums later and do it white because they think that's how people did back in the days.

Nobody is right tho, there is space for both tradition and innovation and no reason to stick with only one or the other

>>37570255
not even indies are noticing them now
when they debuted, you saw indie-vtweeters thirsting for tempus
now the only ones doing it are their usual ecelebs

EN3 should get a bunch of 2hufags
>Love CGDCT
>Love yuri
>All strive to become like Marisa
>2hufag worship "Creating" and so they would probably strive to be la creatividad

>>37570390
near east asian and far east asian are not remotely the same thing

Fubuki is finally back with her gigabuffed autism, unluckily the shiny rate is way too high in this game so this arc shouldn't last more than a few days

>>37570522
Could’ve just fixed YouTube with the money they spent on lilypichu

>>37570390
That merely proves his point, though. Westerners lack the creative instinct entirely, having taken everything they know from ancient Middle Easterners and Africans and then proceeding to autistically adhere to this tradition received from the outside.

>>37570552
not with the current sjw EN management

>>37570522
who did they end up poaching? the otv clique?

>WAIT WTF WHERE SHE COME FROM

>>37570552
NO
you will get
>tempuss cocksleeve
>"popular" tiktoker
>a tranny
>a nigger
all of them WILL HAVE UNDER THEIR CONTRACT to accept collabs with company mandated <Hololive Production Members> in case you get another Gura case
t. omega

>>37566694
Japanese people think memes are stupid and cringe (which is true) so they don't engage in this "culture". Making silly memes about your oshi turns her into a joke and you can see that from redditor/normie fanbase in the West and how they see holos.

>>37570602
they are supposedly courting xqc again after that twitch drama.
i will give susan props though for forcing twitch to pay pokimane an insane amount in order to stay

>>37570614
I'll watch the first two

>>37569941
Temflops Termination when
>Temflops Termination when
Temflops Termination when
>Temflops Termination when
Temflops Termination when
>Temflops Termination when
Temflops Termination when
>Temflops Termination when
Temflops Termination when
>Temflops Termination when
Temflops Termination when
>Temflops Termination when

>>37570346
It's 100% some sort of shadowban algo gone rogue and now just straight up hiding all active livestreams.
We've seen streams get shadowbanned before, so....

>>37570646
>faggot ends up getting away with it anyway

>>37570624
Its not just memes, japs are just creatively bankrupt which is why most of the good fan content comes from the non jap audiences.

>>37570607
>EZ EN GOLD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhnBTEmwGzE
will this be featured on shorts or videos

>>37570713
>anon thinks that the drama wasnt manufactured by xqc himself in order for youtube to start courting him again.

>>37570607
Karaoke bro, the greatest of NijiEN buffs if you're a man (or a woman pretending to be a man).

mind you, the curve was already going down before vesper's yab

>>37570607
aiieeee gura please save us

>>37570768
Yeah i don't think vesper's yab drastically changed anything but I do think it'll speed up the decline

>>37570768
Damn look at that Y-Axis on the views graph

>>37570614
>"popular" tiktoker
Nice, another Gura.

amelia needs to tick in 8 days or she will be without it for 2 full months
G R I M

EN management really looked at their failing homo branch and thought "what we need to do here is fire the only one who's not a complete failure"

>Number

>>37570255
They should have stayed in their lane. At least then, they would have garnered sympathy and goodwill from being underdogs instead of being a bunch of unwanted leeches.

>>37570869
>vesper
>not a failure
the fact that he turned to gaybaiting again like what he did as notvesper before he failed only proves that he was on the same path anon.

>>37570713
They’re basically forcing twitch to spend a shit load of money to keep their streamers and they already look bad because Amazon wants their money

>>37570917
I don't watch homos, all I know is that he could at least compete with the lower tier indogs in ccv

>>37570898
Pekora should stop supporting anyone, she plagued them with her bad luck this year
>"Things will not go your way" - Ookami Mio

>>37570614
kek not after the tempiss sexual harrassment case

Which is stronger, the Greek pantheon or the Norse? I think the Egyptian claps them both

Ky0resu for en3

>>37570951
He did manage to mog Kiara in her own time slot enough times for tempiss to be a net positive in my eyes. They can shut the branch down now though.

>>37570975
do we take into account Age of Mythology and its influence in the perception of certain pantheons?

>>37570768
>>37570849
It's crazy how consistent Magni's views are that just 30k difference is all there is for that long span of time.

>>37571025
>Menhara and hated by spics
Nah

>>37570898
>7-1
AAIIIEEE!!!!!!
BRAZILBROS!!!!!!

>>37571025
Isn't she russian or at least slavic?

>>37570768
>Huh I wonder what they were doing in late September that led to their peak
god damnit it's the fucking Worms tournament. The guys LITERALLY cannont exist without the girls propping them up

>>37570865
>starting EN vs JP loop again
Why don't you show JP sub growth which is just as bad, faggot

>>37570749
>cant get 10k on buffed karaoke
>force a Z
kek

>>37571062
posting it everyday because it makes you in particular seethe

>>37571056
There's barely a difference between the 3 points in the graph

>>37570898
What happened to Argentina? They were a football powerhouse for quite some time and now losing to the fucking Saudis.

>>37571056
The data is monthly, all that's there is that he had more views in all of September than all of August or all of October. And I assume he collabed with the girls in all of those months because that's all they do.

>>37571062
>Lying on the internet

>>37570917
I really scratch my head at the mindset of these guys, they legitimately had a pretty good thing going in the first month or so and threw it all away in record time. Feels like they got impatient and instead of putting in the effort and time to grow their branch they just tried importing this pseudo Twitch meta and kneecapped themselves in the process. I wonder if any of them even realizes what they did wrong.

>>37570975
Comparing them in god of war, the Norse looked like a skirmish vs the full blown war and destruction the Greek battle caused, In the comics, the egyptians pussied out when kratos was passing by to go to midgard

Reminder

>>37571091
>barely any difference
And that doesn't change the fact the worms tournament was the peak and he's been reclining since
a recline is a recline. What you see there isn't changing. It's just going to accelerate

>>37571126
>they legitimately had a pretty good thing going in the first month or so
yeah, debut buff

With all the talk about Tempus being ungrateful and impatient. Will Tempiss kill themselves if they got the Council/Noctyx treatment of sub cull?

The only winning move with HolostarsEN was to not play. There was no need for them, that much is clear, but even if they really felt the need to do it there was no way it was ever going to turn out positive unless they got one guy who was already absurdly popular beforehand that could MAYBE carry it with that alone.

Instead, we got some people who were pretty much literally who, which is fine, but them acting like a bunch of grifters didn't help. Probably the only thing Cover can do now is, unironically, debut another gen and make them be more insular. Branching out to twitchnigs and other outsiders has NOT helped in the slightest, and neither has collabing with HoloEN even if they get temporary numbers just because unityniggers who want to pretend they matter show face for once. If they get more people, with better designs, and people with actual personalities, maybe they can garner more interest in HoloStars itself. Maybe they can make their own little insular community for themselves that aren't just holdovers for people who would rather watch the girls if they're streaming. Using the girls as a crutch was the biggest mistake.

But fundamentally the mistake started with who they hired. These guys plain suck. They have no direction; they have no drive. They want to pretend they give a shit about the Holostars name but have done nothing to try and prop even themselves up. All the early talks turned out to be hot air. The fact that one already got a fucking 2 week suspension already shows the direction that StarsEN is headed.

>>37570975
Indian pantheon
Japanese pantheon
Chinese pantheon
All stronger than Greek feats-wise

>>37570975
Greek shits all over Norse in power levels, the Norse gods are arguably not even immortal.

>>37570552
>2 hardworking hags (at least one hard panders to gachis)
>2 semi-hardworking cunny (at least one hard panders to gachis)
>+1 to any of those

>>37571194
What subs lol, they have fewer subs after 4 months than what the new Niji flop wave debuted with

>>37570975
Indian and chinese pantheon are the most bonkers

>>37571212
I agree for all except the Japanese, aren't they killed of randomly sometimes by humans? They tend to take on mortal flesh as well

>>37571143
That namefag should really kill himself. Basically an intolerable faggot during Korone 3D live.

>>37571241
>>+1 to any of those
The corpo mandated bilingual runt

>>37571180
Not talking about numbers, but rather perception and mindset, when they were presenting themselves as these tight-knit dudes who wanted to contribute to Holostars.

>>37571206
The worst part is that clearly EN's mngmnt wanted to go for the NijiEN/Luxiem's route of gay baiting faggots because it worked for them so they scouted those niggers and THEN when they saw that people in the west actually wanted "bro-tubers", they tried to market them as that
of course people realized that and just left

>>37571206
If they had the StarsJP mentality I wouldn’t have minded supporting them.

>>37571143
>saving your own shitposts
cringe

>>37571354
You don't support the StarsJP

>>37571180
>debut buff that just coincidentally started to wear off after the collab with mori

>>37571354
What mentality? The jap homos are the same, the only difference is that 90% of the JP girls won't give them the time of day.

>>37571375
Duh, they're Japanese and boring in comparison to NijiJP males

Give me an english Astel and I would 100% watch the dude.

>>37571180
and then, after farming rep, the collab ban lifted and the mask fell of immediately
>collab with twitch whores
>start gaybaiting
>collab with more ecelebs

>>37571354
>If they had the StarsJP mentality I wouldn’t have minded supporting them.
I used to give pity views to StarsJP whenever there weren't any Hololive streams on but Tempus soured me on even doing that.

>>37571400
>begging JP
Jesus Christ

>>37571432
hey at least that daph collab resulted in something good which is vesper and magnis hard doxx.

>>37571472
and her creating niji drama that also damaged her relationship with tempus but idgaf

>>37571353
>wanted to go for the NijiEN/Luxiem's route
>implying EN has any say in that and its not the main office that wants the luxiem route.

FUCK YOU NIJICN. This gold should belong to my kirin.

>>37571432
What happened to that I wonder? They pumped and dumped Tempiss since the girls didn't budge and get them to collab together? Heck, the girls feel natural collabing with Selen instead of Magni's fleshtube circle

I won 400 bucks today.
Thanks saudi.

>>37571542
based

>>37571537
As shit as """dragoons""" are on this board Selen is not a bad person so it's not completely out of left field. If they ever collab with like, Nina or Enna then I'd be confused.

>>37571542
I would have called you a retard for betting on towelheads if you said that you were doing that earlier.

>>37571542
They're stupid to bet against Saudi in their own turf (middleeast)

>>37571537
Other than Mori, the girls don’t really associate with the twitch crowd iirc

EN management hates Gura for ignoring Tempiss, this is why they cancel and sabotage her projects and ideas

>>37571421
Astel is a burger

Messikek status?

>>37571537
i think only mori and ollie likes the twitch crowd

>>37571542
numbergod