/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>37449350
phaseconnect is a bunch of crazy idiots telling a submissive asian cryptokid to go fuck himself whenever he's right

>>37449350
Fishman is a fucking retard who effectively isolated Pippa from the rest of the corporation.

>>37449542
And banned Lia from doing another CWC reaction stream even though she lost her shit over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NIwiE5e9MY

>>37449350
With the amount of talents they have they may be running into red in hopes it starts paying off later on. I admire the strategy, id say out of small corpos trying to look big, pc is the one striding boldly and strongly, but they may run out of fuel before they get there.

>>37449771
you mean kawaii right?

>>37449816
PC hasn't had any graduations and real drama yet that actually fucks them over.

>>37449350
Fuck right the fuck off homo. You retards try to ruin everything, I swear

>>37449876
>homos
Chuubas are your hobby. Ruining your hobby is their hobby.

>>37449847
if you don't count full blown mental breakdowns as real drama then lmao

>>37449954
That's par for the course for vtubers

>>37450139
if you think that's normal then get a better oshi

>>37449954
They don't call it the SAD GIRL COMPANY for nothing.

Now we need our own SAD BOY COMPANY.

>>37449350
Still trying to push the fake rrat that vamp daddy was only suspended for being a diva I see. If it was that simple jp management wouldn't have been the ones to bonk him.

>>37450292
I gotchu senpai.

>>37449350
>Slugma comes back to fund her own male chuuba company
Kino

>>37449350
More like a male focused agency could work. Doesn't need to be Phase Connect, any ambicious entreprenaur is fonna do it eventually.

>>37449876
But enough about you.

>>37450631
only the slug could pull off something like that

>>37449350
male vtubers, especially western ones, are trash and you should kys

>>37450631
>slugma
good lord

>>37449646
Cwc is peak 2016 Kiwifag content. Nothing of value was lost

>>37449408
>telling a submissive asian cryptokid to go fuck himself whenever he's right
Based, Phase is at its best when he just sits there counting his money while letting Pippa run the company. Whenever he does intervene he's always wrong, see also the Discord leaks/censorship drama.

>>37452712
pippa is dumb as mud if you think otherwise you're probably her target demo

>>37452712
G-g-guys! They censors us!! We cant act like complete retards everywhere we go! All place should be like my Super SeKret Kool Klubz.

No one will miss you

>>37452774
Pippa is smart enough to know how to play the game and is literally larger than Phase now. Especially with that FlaVR gigakino power move, literally made her own company.

>>37452872
Seems the seething xalatrannies have invaded the thread. But as pippa said, Fuck containment. And it's undeniable, whenever the fish does something it's a flop, whenever Pippa does something it's an instant success.

>>37453021
>the game
you mean turning into asmon so fast the algo misses it? lmfao have you been on the internet before?

>>37453021
Sure thing dear election tourist.
>Muh xalafag boogieman
Of course, i cum gallons in Lumi every night. Just like your Pippa is getting stuffed by that one fag right now.

>>37449408
I also am a crazy idiot, where do I fit in?

>>37449542
Asian company please understand.

>>37451769
>peak 2016
He's peak 2008 /v/ and peak 2003 somethingawful, he's just rehashed over and over again every few years.

>>37449350
Vshojo already hired a man though, look at Zentreya

>>37449350
Maybe someone should take that initiative if you think it's something that is lacking. Or maybe other smaller corpos saw what it did to NijiEN and the loud backlash with Tempus.

>>37453200
If you think pippa is just an asmon clone you have no idea and don't really watch her. She's deeper than that.

>>37453216
>muh election tourist
I've been here before Chanology was even a thing

>>37449542
And it backfired when she just said "Fuck this" and not only formed her own network of friends and community but also her own vtuber company which became an instant success. You can't blackroom someone who's now larger than your own company, this isn't Hololive which can afford to lose their biggest earners.

>>37449350
Phase connect is fucking garbage. Tenma is popular because japanese girl speaking English. Pippa is actually entertaining. Lumi doesn't have viewers without raids.

Mysta has an audience of 10k viewers. He's one of the most watched vtuber males in the world.

But just a few weeks before his debut in Nijisanji, he was a tiny, struggling vtuber with less than a hundred viewers. Even today he sympathizes with smaller vtubers and will often drop into their chats unannounced just to give them confidence. There are no alternatives for people like Mysta. You either make it into Niji, or you die. In this case he was fortunate enough to be friends with Elira. But most people are not so lucky.

This proves there are lots of talented people out there who aren't being given a chance. People with 50 viewers, who should be pulling 50,000. You just need to find them.

>>37453454
>Or maybe other smaller corpos saw what it did to NijiEN
Yeah, it made Niji EN explode.

>>37450631
>>37450892
Slug girl is literally the dumbest person I've ever seen on-stream. Go watch the Subliminal vod and tell me she's not a complete airhead. (She even has the vacant-sounding voice down perfectly.)

>>37449771
Fishman has revealed their finances before. They've been in the black for months now.

>>37449350
>fishman refuses to hire males
based

>>37450574
>vshitshow
No thanks.

>>37449350
>Vesper getting canned
Wait. He's getting fired? I thought it was just a suspension for now. Did I miss the announcement??

>>37449408
>whenever he's right
Which isn't very often

>>37449542
And now she's bigger than Mori in terms of CCV, rumao.

>>37454002
Most streamers are basic enough to have a similar sized audience if they immediately received the clout that a corpo gives. The niji male models are a huge buff also

>>37454690
>2 hours on the first proper puzzle
Please understand, she can't comprehend three dimensional spaces

>be fishman
>take a high 2view or low 3 view
>turn them into high 2 view and low 3 views
I am so smart and this is the best small corpo in the world

>>37449350
>t. holobrony who thinks vtubing is just hololive and "the enemy company"

>>37454608
The issue is we have other smaller corpo males like WACTOR and Tsunderia. They're both complete failures.
Even Holostars JP is still technically a failure outside of merch sales and the like.
They can barely pull 100 views on a good day.

There's just no market for males outside of the one Niji and NijiEN has captured.

>>37457135
Shoto is an exception though, mostly because he leeched the fuck out of NijiEN to where some underaged fans thought he was part of the branch.

>>37461759
That's not even how shoto got famous, he got famous by canceling a former utaite he had sex with as a kid which the twittranny artfags sucked him off for.
He got an insane amount of clout from it because of how bad the utaite handled it.

>>37450574
>vshonen
>none of the models are attractive bishies
huh? have standards dropped?

>>37449350
>phase
Not watching a chink-owned corpo. Take your 10 cents and rope yourself.

>>37462315
Sakana is Taiwanese, Uruka is Taiwanese and the 3D company they work with (Wonders.ai) is Taiwanese

>>37449350
If you have a company that is generally 3view territory except for pippa and lumi (who was already fairly well known before PC) then phase males would be literal 2views and also quite possibly heavily damage some of the girls too if they start flirting with them on stream and collab spamming.

>>37462885
Don't you mean Chinese Taipei?

>>37463002
Fuck off Zhang

>>37463002
I'd call you a zhang but that insult had expired when K*** joined Vshitshow

>nobody:
>phase cucks: how do we insert ourselves into shit that doesn't concern us?

>>37449542
Because he probably doesn't want the /here/ autism cringefest she represents to take over his entire company. I hope I don't have to explain why that would be a recipe for disaster in the long term.

>>37464807
you are confusing kiwifarms with /here/ there is a gigantic difference between the 2

>>37464807
People were saying that she'd be a disaster literally since her debut and indeed, indeed indeed she's had so many yabs of all dimensions that should have thoroughly sunk her by now in every dimension and on every website (including here) yet ... she's only failed upward and upward, and is the Atlas holding up the sky over Fishman and PC's heads. I guess being actually-not-fucking-boring and being fun to be around in a way that doesn't involve the "haha sex! sex get it!" or "y-yeah I'm an otaku just like you, how do you do fellow nerds" routines.

>>37449350
Why aren't there any companies with exclusively male vtubers? I don't get it, why the need to leech off girls?

>>37462885
Is there any proof that sakana is not from West Taiwan? You are right about Uruka though.

>>37449350
The problem with your suggestion is that any man with an entertaining personality can probably succeed as a normal streamer. The only reasons to become a male vtuber are to make BFE content or to collab with female vtubers you like.

>>37465149
That's great for her, but as a company there are only so many yabs you can tank before it starts becoming a problem. Eventually, it gets you blacklisted by other corpos, or it starts killing off your other talents by scaring all the normal viewers away.

>>37466370
that is already happening

>>37466507
>we could take pippa's several-thousand viewers and help spread them around to the other girls
OR
>we could make pippa's several-thousand viewers feel unwelcome and act like a two-faced schizo companny pretending she doesn't exist

What do you think would fucking happen.

>>37449350
There is no audience for male vtuber in the west.

>>37466370
This is what happens when you pander to that type of audience.
You either turn your back on them and have them pissed off and rooting for your decline or you keep appealing to them and eventually completely turn your name toxic.
If you think the latter can't happen, remember that there was once a time DSP had an audience before he became completely infamous. I saw it happen in real time.

>>37449350
I watch Phase sometimes and while they are fun they are also incredibly unprofessional.

>>37465402
Him being from West Taiwan would also explain a lot of why he's permanently-hostile to Pippa and also us, because 4chan absolutely fucking hates China and /vt/ especially-so because Coco.

>>37465402
If he was a mainlander he would have never hired Uruka or worked with Wonders, and would have terminated Pippa and Lumi on the spot

>>37466370
>blacklist
The only true confirmation of blacklist is the Amecord, and Watson and her fans are bitter bitches anyway
>scaring all the normal viewers away
As if they care in the first place, all the normal users are in Hololive and will never give a fuck about small corpos like Phase.

>>37466685
>we could take pippa's several-thousand viewers and help spread them around to the other girls
This gives Pippa more power and influence, ensuring that whenever the Fish or Xalabussy try to gag the others they will side with the rabbit instead.
OR
>we could make pippa's several-thousand viewers feel unwelcome and act like a two-faced schizo companny pretending she doesn't exist
She goes Kson and actually makes FlaVR legit.

>>37453678
>Lumi doesn't have viewers without raids

>>37468318
You're right pippas doxcord viewers dont give a fuck about phase connect

>>37466685
The other girls are doing fine without Pippa. No one is forcing them not to interact with her either. They just don't want to associate with someone whose content is 90% edgelord 4chan jokes and politics.

>>37466685
>we could take pippa's several-thousand viewers and help spread them around to the other girls
That's not how it works, growing means gaining more viewers too, not just shuffling the existing ones around.

>>37468318
>all the normal users are in Hololive and will never give a fuck about small corpos like Phase
Same as here. Most of /vt/ only cares about Holo, and the potential audience outside of /vt/ is orders of magnitude larger. More mentally and financially stable too.

>>37469014
>don't want to associate with someone whose content is 90% edgelord 4chan jokes and politics.
Everyone is currently sucking Pippa's cock right now, trying to be more yab and scheduling themselves to stream after her in hopes of getting her raid.

>>37469127
>the biggest whore in the branch is "everyone"
lol

>>37469127
This is embarrassing

>>37466370
the "normal" viewers are all stuck in the holo bubble, the truth that fish is desperately trying to ignore is there's a real demand for edgy entertainment in vtubing, the market is only dominated by adult babies looking for their parent/partner surrogate because that's all that's really been out there in the corporate side. He just has to lean into it and find sponsors that fit phase's actual image instead of the one he wants to have, as long as the girls aren't saying nigger on stream the sky's the limit

>>37449350
>fishman refuses to hire males
The schism in the fanbase isn't worth it, he already has to deal with the Pippa schism.

>>37469256
>the market is only dominated by adult babies looking for their parent/partner surrogate because that's all that's really been out there in the corporate side.
nijisanji and vshojo are both pretty edgy or at least they don't coddle their fans and they're doing fine. for someone complaining about the hololive bubble you don't seem like you have much experience outside of it.

>>37469256
>Her fake company became an instant success
>The fanfic reading auction brought more money and oil barons to Lia than the minecraft donobaiting would have for her
At this point the autistic rabbit is making better business decisions than the fish.

>>37469489
Niji and VSJ are run by SJWs

>>37469536
>Niji and VSJ are run by SJWs
oh so what you meant by edgy entertainment is being able to say racial slurs on stream and make fun of lgbt's.
yeah that's truly what the vtuber scene needs and what sponsors would LOVE to work with.

>>37469623
>sponsors
Pippa and Lumi aka the /pol/couple still get sponsors. Pippa had World of Warships and Wonders.ai, Lumi had Hello Fresh. They know how to play /pol/ without being so overt about it that they scare the sponsors.

Alright Fuck it. I'm starting a male vtuber group
hit me up if you want in

>>37469127
Fishman really needs to get girls with stronger, confident personalities for gen3, the kind doesn't change their style because someone else found something that's working for them, like Tenma.

>>37469489
BFE is nijiEN's biggest content and vshojo are equally as safe for advertisers as the other two, just in the sense of being social justice friendly instead of disney style. They'll talk about sex with their half naked models but you'll never hear them say anything that would make an urban young american think for a second

>>37469803
>They know how to play /pol/ without being so overt about it that they scare the sponsors.
You don't know this, and Sakana has been very open about the fact Pippa is a brand risk that has cost them sponsorships in the past. The fact they can get scraps from scams like Hello Fresh isn't indicative of some huge untapped market, it's the bottom of the barrel.

Regardless Sakana isn't wrong for leaving Pippa to her own devices while focusing on the rest of the company instead, because she herself doesn't like being managed or controlled. It's better than what Hololive does to anyone who doesn't fit the "mold" as we can see from recent drama. You're just looking for a scapegoat to blame for the fact the rabbit can't make friends.

>>37469127
Some of these posts are from months ago and you're literally only showing Shiina.

>>37461902
>he got famous by canceling a former utaite he had sex with as a kid
WHAT!? source

>>37470095
>The fact they can get scraps from scams like Hello Fresh isn't indicative of some huge untapped market, it's the bottom of the barrel.
Fuck HelloFresh by the way. Food isn't even that good and the recipes are a joke.
I just ignore them and make what I want to make with the ingredients

>>37469803
>>37469623
Lumi has had more sponsorships than the rest of the company combined. TW:WH3, HelloFresh, Mount and Blade, World of Warships, Outshine, and is probably going for more. Something is definitely working.

>>37470095
>huge untapped market
What untapped market? I have to repeat this again ad nauseam. Hololive has otaku and Reddit, Niji has normies and China, and Vshojo has a monopoly on Twitch. Otherwise there's nothing left. In fact, it was Pippa herself who opened up an untapped market for Phase, yes it was edgy and "out there" but it was thanks to her that Phase managed to take hold of it and actually become sustainable.

>>37470528
>Phase
Pippa*
Most of her company are 2views/extremely low 3views >>37466507

>>37470095
>she herself doesn't like being managed or controlled.
she does

>>37470528
Pippa doesn't exist

>>37449350
>but fishman refuses to hire males
And why do you think that is, op?

>>37470528
But anon how will Fishman get his Nissan, Pepsi, and Western Union sponsorships?

>>37472064
He should go for the NASCAR, budweiser and mcdonalds sponsorships, pippa's people are waiting

>>37465227
Because EN males get no traction on their own. The biggest redpill regarding male vtubers is that Luxiem and its successors worked only because Luxiem went viral in Asia and triggered a massive demographic shift that for all intents and purposes ethnically replaced the Lazulight-Ethyria North American male fanbase for one that was overwhelmingly female and East Asian. NijiEN males didn't succeed with the original fanbase, they replaced the original fanbase and succeeded with another entirely different one.

The thing is, you cannot rely on something going viral. It's like 'relying' on winning the lottery. This is why males outside of NijiEN always flop and become 3view leeches in under a month, and why in NijiEN itself later waves of dudes pull consistently worse numbers than the breakout wave.

>>37472226
>mcdonalds sponsorships
not happening, she is too much for mcdonalds

>>37472643
>you cannot rely on something going viral. It's like 'relying' on winning the lottery.
Thats literally most vtuber company strategies for everything that's why there is only a few that succeed. It doesn't have to be this way....

>>37470040
how is it going to be any different

>>37449542
So, he's a genius?

>>37470380
Long story short shoto called out this guy

https://utaitedb.net/Ar/7852

For being "abusive" in their relationship and grooming him after they had sex when he was like 16. Nansu tried defending himself but did it so badly he became a meme on twitter and then nuked everything.

>>37456808
Pippa is a 4view now.

>>37480392
more like he thinks Pippa is stopping him from making millions in random sponsorships. which is kind of self-aggrandizing assuming he had actual big-name ones in the works as if people are lining up around the block to get chuubas to shill stuff.

even Holos barely fucking do it and those streams are usually duds. it's not that Cover is turning them down daily because we know from internal documents that the sponsorships are generally super-lucrative, I'm sure they'd take them if they got more. they also pop up when there is a logical connection - Korone liked playing Sonic games and so eventually Sega made inroads to her and then outright sponsored her. Similar with Lumi's sponsorships rooting from her general gaming focus. If a sponsor thinks there's a really strong candidate they'd let fishman know and likely not give a shit if pippa existing matters or not for it.

>>37469489
Making sex jokes and peepee poopoo isn't edgy humor.

>>37482256
then what is?

Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRX0OgfVQqw

>>37472643
>The biggest redpill regarding male vtubers is that Luxiem and its successors worked only because Luxiem went viral in Asia and triggered a massive demographic shift that for all intents and purposes ethnically replaced the Lazulight-Ethyria North American male fanbase for one that was overwhelmingly female and East Asian. NijiEN males didn't succeed with the original fanbase, they replaced the original fanbase and succeeded with another entirely different one.
THIS! We're in a strange position where what was supposed to be a branch/company for English speaker in the West ended up fully catering to a completely different female demographic from China etc. I was into Rosemi and Petra before the males destroyed the culture there, and watching that Pico Park collab between the girls is downright painful now.

The same thing is happening with HoloEN. Tempus is kept afloat by Chinese fujoshi and random gangs of normalfaggot casuals that bum around failed idols like Ame or Mori.

>>37449350
Why do you even need options for male vtubers? Just get an actual job if you are a male.

>>37490888
Male vtubers exist to feed the delusion that one day you too can become a male vtuber, escape a bleak life and have a real chance at banging your oshi.

>>37491082
You have a higher chance escaping a bleak life and banging your oshi working as their riggers etc

>>37491370
But that is work. People don't want to do work.

>>37491082
I specifically wanted to become a holostar to hook up with female fans. And yes, they have female fans.

>>37491082
didnt the pink haired one from stars fucked one of the holos before he got fired

>>37493465
That's a rrat, an especially outlandish one since the original was that he'd fucked Miko of all people, and when people laughed at that they made another about him and Coco.

>>37470208
nothing has changed

>>37470208
You're welcome to give us a full pippa dicksucking chart by her genmates

>>37449350
>something like PhaseConnect
Go back to sucking fishman's dick retard, if you had been paying attention the past few months you'd know that management has become more involved, more concerned with their public image, and has started intruding on talents more. Because the fish is chinese, they can't help but be crushingly oppressive, which is why a lot of the phase girls have been stressed and miserable.

why are phase niggers constantly begging for new talents from other companies?

>>37498078
You're the lurker. Go find it yourself. Or better yet, ask them publicly, no balls [spoilers]and then be laughed at by everyone[/spoilers]

>>37469127
to be fair in this particular case, a nebulous "pipkin" is less cancelable than "retarded" or "autism"

>>37480705
this sounds hilarious but he's turbo deleted now, where can I read more?

>>37500725
>Because the fish is chinese
and Canadian

>>37470040
good luck