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Its been 5 year since Sora had her debut. That's 5 years to learn japanese. Have you learned japanese yet?

>> No.37465079

no

>> No.37465151

yeah

>> No.37465165

Been 27 years since I was alive. Only learned English.

>> No.37465224

>>37464701
Yes. I knew it before Sora debuted though.

>> No.37465516

>>37464701
Not really, I gave up before learning all the kana, but I've still gotten irrationally angry at EOPs in the chat asking where she is going when she JUST said "somethingsomething ue somethingsomething" before turning towards the stairs.

>> No.37469284

>>37464701
funny, i actually started the year before crown and i had to stop because the school closed, now that most of the teachers are back it will open next year finally.

>> No.37469502

あったりめぇじゃねぇか
にっぽんごを学んでいないマヌケなんてアタオカすぎなくね?

>> No.37472177

>>37464701
still trying to find the motivation

>> No.37472403

>>37464701
No, and I never will.

>> No.37472831

>>37464701
Smoka

>> No.37472900

>>37464701
>let's have a unique letter for each word lmao!
Demented language.

>> No.37473247

>>37464701
I got a lot better. I can follow simpler casual conversation. I am still not great with vocabulary, especially some slang.

>> No.37473362

I've been studying about 20 minutes a day for a year and a half or so. I can follow along with some streams pretty well. I would recommend it.

>> No.37474988
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37474988

Nice fucking language.

>> No.37475976

>>37464701
No, there's nothing interesting in that language besides entertainment for manchildren.
I would rather learn German.

>> No.37479469

>>37475976
Sounds like whoever translated Santooka to your language didn't do a good job.

>> No.37482717

>>37474988
kek

>> No.37483063

>>37464701
no fuck this retarded ass backwards language
why the fuck cant they just be normal, why does gold + ball not = gold ball but it = testicles
why can't they just link two words together like normal instead of making it be a completely different word, and don't even get me started on the same word having 10 different fucking meanings

>> No.37486972

>>37464701
いいえ、まだです。これから日本語を勉強します。

>> No.37486981

>>37464701
Surprisingly yes. I put all my points into listening though and can only kind of read katakana and hiragana, and since I don't bother practicing my pronunciation is just bad. Like embarrassingly bad.

>> No.37487057

>>37464701
It's been even longer since Ironmouse's debut.
Have the japs learned English yet?

>> No.37487324

>>37465165
Are you excited to pull social security soon?

>> No.37487743

I have though, but just to a hobbyist level. I can watch watame and play simple jp vidya like pokemon. But my talking and writing suck

>> No.37491277

>>37464701
>5 years to learn japanese
you can get that good in 5 years

>> No.37491835

Only partially but I spent way more time reading that watching/listening so I can read VNs/twitter/etc pretty well but struggle listening to streams, especially when they're talking about some topic I hadn't heard

>> No.37492859

>>37474988
Because Fate totally isn't known for using overcomplicated Kanjis in a unconventional way.

>> No.37496350

>>37474988
>>37492859
Did Pekora play fate?

>> No.37496387

>> No.37496394

Nobody cares about the whores who came before Coco.

>> No.37496568

>>37492859
That’s literally just Sakurai, only relevant if you play Japanese FGO or read Prototype/Fragments

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>>37464701
トワベビー。。。

>> No.37502882

>>37464701
>5 years

>> No.37502907

>>37464701
I only started watching hololive back in January 2020 when pandemic hits, It was a clip of Pekora's trap house after I watch a Russian war film. It's been 2 years and I can even form a single sentence in Japanese except for daisowke, kownichiwa, sayownara and arigatow.

>> No.37502950

>>37502907
*I can't form a single japanese sentence yet

>> No.37503052

>learning even a single syllable of the moon monkey language
No thanks, I hate rice, and have testosterone.

>> No.37503081
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>>37464701
Trying to learn by translating but the results are often nonsensical. Take this image for example, on the bottom right.

ボタンごときが

船長を長持ちとくきせとーとけ

I painstakingly drew out the kanji and put in the words onto both DeepL and Google TL, but the translation doesn't make sense in either one

"It's not just a button.

Make the captain last longer."

Am I doing something wrong? Or is Japanese really just that hard to understand?

>> No.37503100

I don't like Towa, how can I get rid of her?

>> No.37503193

日本がまだわからないけどさ

>> No.37504782

>>37464701
Been studying at my own pace. I have bad memory, but as long I keep at it, I'll learn over time just like with english. I'm not about to pressure myself rushing to learn just because Anon says so.

>> No.37504850

>>37464701
I will learn Japanese when they stop using retarded writing system

>> No.37505029
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37505029

>>37464701
I would if I knew where to begin. Most people have told me to write down the Hiragana alphabet on writing cards and remember it as I progress to the Katakana alphabet, but is that really an efficient method? Is another way learn Japanese more efficiently?

>> No.37505060

>>37464701
yes, i am nihogo jozu

>> No.37505093

Watching vtubers made me discover the amazing products of onaholes and daikimakura. Suisei made me discover the beauty of Japan.

>> No.37505220

>>37505029
its a long ass process dude, bc as other ppl have mentioned the language is fucking retarded and ass backwards, even if you engrossed yourself into the language it would still take you fucking years to become passibly fluent like 5 plus easily and thats if you were crazy dedicated, what the fuck is vtubing even gonna be in 5 years is it even worth it lol

>> No.37505237

>>37464701
i don't give a fuck about the 2view sora

>> No.37505342
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37505342

>>37464701
There's a character I don't quite understand. Is that just "ni" but drawn weirdly? I can't find it anywhere

>> No.37505367

>>37505342
weird ko probably

>> No.37505430

>>37505342
Looks like an inverted ko.

>> No.37505461
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37505461

そうだ
日本人になった

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37505510

>>37505367
>>37505430
It's this one. Ignore the ''.

>> No.37505533

>>37505510
Ok searching it up it is actually ko. I haven't learned this one yet possibly, or maybe I'm just dumb

>> No.37505727

>>37505342
に is just こ with a bracket on the left anyways (こ , so you're only confused to some smaller extent :^)

>> No.37505772

>>37505533
nah it's mirrored. it's like writing a b instead of d or p instead of q. it's weird and wrong.
occam's razor is that the image you posted was someone still learning and actually got it backwards.

>> No.37505897

>>37505727
There's some characters in Japanese that I just go "fuck off" like シ which has two ones that look almost exactly the same. It's easy to learn some but the ones that look the same really fuck me up. Also I've been struggling with the '' because it sometimes makes a character start with b and sometimes it makes it start with d. I can't find a rule on how to tell

>> No.37505923

>>37505772
dunning kruger post

>> No.37505973

>>37505897
シツン

>> No.37506031
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37506031

>>37505533
Nah, it's just difficult to get used to.

And like >>37505727 mentions, there's actually a lot of reused symbols all around that it might get confusing.

>> No.37506144

>>37506031
theyre called radicals

>> No.37506163

I understand using Kanji and Hiragana or Kanji and Katakana but why tf do Japanese use all three at the same time? There's あ so why the hell do you need to use ア in a mainly hiragana sentence? It feels redundant. They'll be saying stuff like 見て、キレだな for no reason since that could be spelled with just hiragana and kanji or just katakana and kanji. Why do they do it bros?

>> No.37506291

>>37506144
Nice to know. Haven´t seem them named at all in the few online courses I've seen so far.

>> No.37507212

>>37464701
2020年4月からぺこらきっかけでホロライブ見始めた、今年12月にJLPTN2の試験受ける、応援よろしくー(そこまで自信ないw)

>> No.37508752

>>37506163
because ruling class vs peasants

>> No.37508938
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37508938

Konnichiwa minnasan!! ^-^
Watashi anon desu!
Hororive daisuki!

>> No.37509325

>>37503081
>ボタンごときが
Gotoki = as if/like
As if that button

>船長を長持ちとくきせとーとけ
Misreading
船長を長持ちよくさせよーとは生意気なー
Trying to make Senchou feels good how audacious

>> No.37509461

>>37503081
are you for real? even if you don't know japanese you didn't even bother to check your shitty OCR against the source to see if the characters are correct ffs

>> No.37509477

>>37506031
It's actually a good thing and I never have problem to differentiate them just try to sing karaoke it's the best method
Also your example are very simple this radical 門 means door and the example are to open,to close and to hear with the kanji of ears inside

>> No.37509552

>>37509461
No I was doing it by eye

>> No.37509726

>>37509325
Ugh, I often fuck up between け and な when I really shouldn't. I also misread よ and と which is just embarrassing. But going by literal translation it sounds weird.

"How dare you try to make the captain feel good?"

Compared to what you translated which sounds more natural and Senchou like

"Trying to make Senchou feel good? how audacious!"

>> No.37509953
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37509953

>>37509726
I'm learning Japanese so I can read and translate Hololive porn btw. I didn't start to better understand my oshi or travel to Japan, just because I browsed Pixiv too much and got frustrated on how much great content I'm missing by not speaking Japanese. For example these two:
https://litter.catbox.moe/7c9yqs.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/u6qli0.png
The bottom one I recognise several things like "Peko-chi(kanji)ta, dousuru? Dousuru?" and "konpeko" but the top one is quite hard.

>> No.37509994

>>37509953
Fuck, I mixed up な and た again... bah, I still need to memorize this more. But I'm making good progress

>> No.37510270

>>37505973
>tfw could actually recognize what each one was at first glance
Maybe reps do work after all

>> No.37510529

>>37509953
It's
またマリンが変なことしてるぺこな
Marine is doing weird thing again peko

>> No.37511671

>>37492859
It shouldn't matter at all.

>> No.37511783

I did I did
But now I wish I had my 5 years back so I could do literally anything else.

>> No.37511996

Attempting JLPT N2 this December, wish me luck bros.

>> No.37512397

日本語は勉強です!
がんばります!

>> No.37514179

やつてみてみ

>> No.37514305

>>37514179
It translates as anybody can look (e.g. at a thing) in deepl but in Google TL it becomes Try it. DeepL has been disappointing lately

Also is the thread autosaged?

>> No.37515135

>>37464701
I just heard about 春夏冬 (akinashi) the other day
so now I'm back to giving up

>> No.37516577

肉 looks like a grill so it's easy

>> No.37517058

>>37506163
That makes it easy to read as a whole, as nihongo doesn't use space between words you use kanas and kanjis to make it visually easy to read, and for narrative purposes as well. You can even read between lines with proper knowledge of it, like in slangs or pretty discursive forms.

I started learning nihongo way before vtubers but is watching them what made me pro at it. I can understand 95% of what my chuubas say even if they're at x100 speed. Reading is still hard but I'm getting better.

>> No.37519453

>>37515135
It's just a name used by no one in Japan and even jap can't read it
Don't give up

>> No.37519533

>>37507212
頑張って 名無しさん

>> No.37519596

>>37464701
I don’t need it in my daily life, I’m not learning a new language just so some online VA would notice me.

I am gonna learn it though eventually, because I’d like to work/live for a while there.

>> No.37521457

>>37519596
The best time to start learning was 12 years ago. The second best time is きょう. Start now anon.

>> No.37522009

>>37483063
Sex+utensil = genitals. That's straightforward. Ball can be read as jewel so just think of the family jewels. They only have maybe 60 phonemes which is why all the words are reused (and why kanji is a necessity).

>> No.37524429

>>37519453
I do hate that they force you to learn kanji that is only ever used in names

>> No.37525434

>>37483063
It's because testicules are very precious ball
For example testicules are sometimes call family jewel in my language

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