/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

GRIM

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

bots

>>37421873
Hahaha!

>>37421883
Recent clip numbers
>>37378218
>>37378261
>>37378286
>>37378311
>>37378345

>>37421206
>And luca stoped incling once maria joined his stream
no yhe number is going up retarded holokek

>>37421919
botted post

>>37421959
Unicorn chads keep winning

HoloChADS, we're eating good the next 1 and a half weeks!

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>55,196: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>44,763: Miko (Hololive)
>33,958: Met (774 inc)
>29,925: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,971: Korone (Hololive)
>27,432: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,255: Lize (Nijisanji)
>22,250: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,699: Flare (Hololive)
>21,431: Fubuki (Hololive)
>20,812: Salome (Nijisanji)
>20,373: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,432: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,678: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,032: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>13,323: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>13,134: Aqua (Hololive)
>12,922: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,655: Ange (Nijisanji)
>12,329: NeruMero (Indie)
>12,299: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>12,052: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,893: Nose (VSPO)
>11,571: Botan (Hololive)
>10,784: Yamagami Karuta (Nijisanji)
>10,538: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,433: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,121: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,097: Ito Life (Indie)

>>37421862
My oshi isn't a whore. she only sleeps with me

what did we learn last thread?

>>37422015
Sure is

Luca 10k!!!!!!!
en gold secured AGAIN

Here's some data that I thought you guys might find interesting. It's a graph detailing post counts over the months for the largest KR vtubing community, which covers only foreign vtubers (like Hololive and Nijisanji).
>To summarize:
I've seen discussion talking about this decline, and the conclusion that most have come to is that a lot of the new KR viewers that came from the initial Holo boom in Korea (that being Myth, Council, and HoloX fans) have started to look for more local options dropping those that initially started the boom.

>>37422047
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Lamy, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Flare, Koyori, Kuzuha, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
211x: Hololive
99x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
50x: Pekora
21x: Miko
18x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome
15x: Nijisanji, Subaru
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura
4x: Koyori, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

I jst realized the holopro twitter account doesn't tweet Vesper supension thingy
rrat?

Forget about Kronii being the Mori of Council, she's actually the Vox of HoloEN KEK. Imagine trashing your audience only to run back to them once you realized they actually leave when you told them to do so.

>>37421959
is this real? women just need to step back and valuate things. If they did Rushia would still be here.

>>37422113
Vesper raped the EN twitter intern

>>37422101
Here's the Top 10 most talked about vtubers for last month

>EZ 10k
holokeks status???

>>37421862
Does that mean hoomans don't care then, all her asmr has really low views

>>37422113
No negativity for Homos allowed in that account, anon.

>>37422113
What do you mean rrat? We were already told that Vesper raped Gura.

Mayo dog my beloved

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

>>37422166
Here's the most talked about streams

>>37422113
No rrat, the "holopro EN" managers really want to pretend the Vesper thing didn't happen.

>>37422126
topkek
though that means she'll soon have a literal mental breakdown

>>37422113
It was Tempus manager alternate account, remember it was made around Tempus debut

>>37422231
And Top 10 most talked about vtubers outside of Hololive.

>PekoMiko daughter

>>37422288
>nazuna

>>37422288
where is nijisanji?

>>37422092
>>37422171
It's a Z

>>37422174
Mumei's asmrs are entirely done for her dedicated viewers. They don't get the tourists that make p the other 50% of her viewers

>>37421873
>her lover has been suspended, and she risks being alone again
Yeah, I sure wonder why

>>37421293
>ASMR ccv
Vox ASMR ccv blows Fauna out of the water but the VODs are consistently worse than or equal to Fauna's ASMR
I figure it's because they're fundamentally different types of ASMRtists.

>>37422171
seething and meltdown

>>37422374
why is his z's bigger than bae's?

>>37422328
Who's the mother?

LMAO of course

>>37422374
no it's not fucking retard.
it is just a lag.

>>37422374
why the fuck do their Z have this huge surges

>>37422092
>Luca gold
Niji posters don't even look at their own schedule. FulGOD is getting the cripple gold you retards

Do none of the en give a shit about vesper I excepted mori or bae to be a bit sad. Tempus legit cancelled streams while en won't acknowledge the poor dude.

>>37422406
I mean fauna mogs every ASMR vtuber.

>>37422500
CN internet causes higher surges maybe

>>37422506

>>37422546
Every EN vtuber. She doesn't hold a candle to even indie JPs

>>37422546
Please don't false flag.
She pales compared to the real pros you see on the JP side.

>>37422537
Did anyone in Hololive JP being all sappy when they btfo'd Kaoru from Holostars JP, anon? Exactly

Bros is it possible to get membership gift even though you're not subscribed to the channel?

>>37422374
Hahaha! Reclining is real!

>>37422537
Mori can't even break 2K5 right now, she can't be worrying about someone else

>>37422608
Miko took a break right at that time

>>37422610
yes

>>37422406
Vox's videos are unironically just porn. Sisters watch, coom once, and then don't come back

>>37422597
why it didn't catch Luca's 11k?

>>37422649
She was pregnant with my child, so there's a clear reasoning for it

Stop kronii you acting like a whore! Why she like this?

>>37422653
Ah, I see
I'm not even watching the chuuba when I got it

Did Fauna and Mumei really cuck Kronii out of a 10k because they decided to do a second fucking run? What the fuck is wrong with them?

>>37422602
>>37422604
I don't check JP but i highly doubt they can get as much views as fauna in ASMR.

>>37422649
She was fucking dying

>>37422679
because it was a fucking Z

>5 hour stream
What wrong with your oshis hoomans and saplings

i miss pekogold...

>>37422729
She already got her paycheck for this month, that's why anon.

>>37422751
>I don't check JP
Then don't talk about retarded shit just to get people to shit on Fauna. You could just look up Noel ffs.

>>37422758
What a coincidence

>>37422537
Why? Unlike men women don’t have menhera breakdowns over a suspension.

>>37422733
>but i put endurance in the title
they are just dumb

>>37422772
Is this the longest collab in EN ?

>>37422772
Theyre Celebrating the facts that 1 of the Homos will soon be Terminated.
>We know where this cover announcement going....

I like whores.

>>37422772
they wanted an exucse to not funnel to anyone
im almost sure that she will finsih at the same time kroni does.

>>37422852
Sana-Mori 12 hours pokemon collab

>>37422772
Kronmei fags btfo

>>37422288
Is that greyed out saki?

>>37422888
doesn't count, sana graduated.

>>37422852
No. Sana and Mori had a 10 hour one or so.

>2 of the homos are potentially going to graduate
What a shitshow. I hope Omega gets fired over this

>minding my own business
>korone retweet GOALjp saying benzima got injured and will miss the world cup
i never expected her to be interested in football at all. play fifa doog

>>37422940
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

>>37422537
Not going to lie it kinda breaks the big happy family atmosphere hololive is going for. When one talent legit is gone and the rest of the them pretend they did not exist.

opinions

Mori isn't even going to hit 2.5k ..

>>37422953
Japan is in WC anon, watch pekora do a watchalong of it kek

>"I've made mistakes before"
>"But now I'm ok"
>"That person you where jealous of before"
>"That person can be you"
Shes not even trying to hide it. Holy shit. That was the most blatant apology GFE stream ever. It's riddled with hints. Unicorns won.

>>37422953
Benzemabros...

>>37422113
that account loves the homos too much

>>37422135
Females don’t have good critical thinking skills. They get too emotional.

>>37422988
...and the dude doing shady shit to [someone] behind the scenes wasn't what broke the family atmosphere for you?

>>37422792
Why whould I do that. I don't think noel or anyone from JP is at Fauna's level in ASMR

>>37422988
Holostars have nothing to do with Hololive though

>>37423013
it was good could have easily being 10k if mumei and fauna didnt go for a second run
they really should learn from Jps where the stream on jp prime time are at 3hrs mostly
And long streams are saved for afternoon or late night

>>37423031
You can't just give us this without the source anon, because this is vox-level shit

>>37422056
Zhang bot is back baby

>>37421873
Isn't she the perfect being? Why is she back pedalling so hard? Whore

>>37422953
>benzima got injured and will miss the world cup
HAHAHAHAHA
France is finished, they will exit in the groups
The winner's curse continues

nijisisters…

>>37422166
>Literally 3/5 CouncilRyS
Really surprised Kronii isn't there but not surprised at all that Fauna isn't. Really feel bad for Fauna who has literally no international presence

>>37423031
>"That person you where jealous of before"
And end up Me Too'd like Vespergers? No thanks

>>37422988
>Not going to lie it kinda breaks the big happy family atmosphere hololive is going for
Good then, this matter does not concerning Hololive at all, it's holostars matters. Just look at Mooms and Fauna, they're still here vibing with each other.

>>37422406
Vox's stuff isn't really ASMR, and anyway the draw for his audience is the live participation in the scenario I assume. It's almost like he acts out stuff from trashy romance stories (e.g. porn for women). Something like that isn't likely to have legs, plus he does it way more often than someone like Fauna.

>>37423160
Anon... Benzema wasn't playing in the 2018 world cup either...

>>37422056


he incline again after Sonyy joined.

>>37423031
She's only doing this because EN3 is happening in the next couple of months, she'll drop you again the moment the next stars gen comes.

>>37423031
Didn't she say that today's ASMR drew inspiration from shit that happened to her today?

>>37422231
Korean love idol, and jp provide them with concert and kino stuff.

>>37423262
>next stars gen comes
How so? HolostarsEN will disband next week anon.

>>37423284
nope
she had it on idea since days ago.

What happened to mori?

>>37422101
>>37422166
>>37422231
>>37422288
So some things to notice here are:
>The interest in Foreign vtubers is dying down
Specifically, while interest in foreign vtubers is waning, the local KR scene is continually growing right now
>Myth and Council have lost their momentum in Korea
Both Myth and Council played a huge part in the initial vtuber boom in KR. However, they haven't been able to sustain that momentum. You can notice this by the fact that in >>37422166 the most talked about Holos are from JP. Meaning that all the new viewers brought in by EN have been slowly filtering out. Baelz is still somewhat popular, IRYS surprising seems to have a good number of fans, and Mumei seems to have taken over the position that Amelia used to have.
>/vt/ rrats have a noticeable impact on KR opinion
Because English is somewhat commonly taught in Korea, a lot of people have been translating posts from /vt/ to KR communities. This in particular has caused a HUGE surge in doxxposting and certain things that were isolated here like the whole "Ame calling Gura a fucking bitch thing" are now starting to be referenced more commonly in KR communities which is in turn chipping away at the number of EN fans.

>>37423359
Lost the mandate of atlantis after that offcollab saga.

>>37422350
Korean is all about idol, niji is never their option.

>>37422953
Korone likes fit butts

>>37423031
fake?
I don't see this on global or infinity

otsuray~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs9t-AY8sBY

>>37422920
Yes. There are a good number of KR viewers that primarily watch vsingers.

>>37422374
Holy Z, look it gooooo

>>37422988
Holostars are not hololive. They are not part of the family

>>37422166
Where's kronii?
Also I'm surprised Luna and mumei are up there

>>37423359
It’s a sponsored stream of a bullet hell what do you want from her man?

>>37422166
>Gura nowhere in the top 10
Explain this chumkeks

>>37423490
I dunno, for a 2M subs vtuber to reach the cripple tally at least, I guess?

>>37422406
Fauna ASMRtists

Vox a coomerbait
They not the same.

Can I ask, since the queen has reclaimed her weekend timeslot how much of a drop did the stand-ins take?

>>37423404
Damn it started 2 hours ago

>>37423362
FUCKING LOL THE RRATS KEEPS WINNING

>>37422825
Not really, just autistic.
Also
>En
>Caring about funnels

>>37423094
You don't even watch Fauna then? She has acknowledged how lacking her ASMR is in comparison to her JP senpai

>>37423067
He didn't do shit besides shit on management for being retarded stop spreading rrats

>>37422825
Anon they're having fun what's your problem
Don't know why these two retards don't collab more they clearly enjoy each other's presence

>>37423680
i know they dont care but it happens so much nowasy it is deteriorating their box
mumei is fucking ending right now pretty much at the same time kroni ended
is fucking stupid

>>37423362
Ah shit.
The rrats.....

Mumei has really fucking cute giggles
Fauna too

>>37423546
Most normal streamers have trouble breaking 5k hololive is an anomaly.

>>37423362
tl;dr gooks prefer their vtubers to be fake and a fake family just like the nips instead of keeping it real
go figure, slanty-eyes are all the same

>>37423789
Now check jaiden animation

>thats all for today
>keeps playing

>Giga Nigga ratio'd Poso with his Nenechi dakimakura
Best timeline
https://twitter.com/takami554/status/1594078118679302146

>>37423745
Fair. It's annoying that there's zero coordination wharosever.

>>37423094
>I don't think
Maybe you should start doing that

>>37423789
Yeah, Mori is a vtuber the last time I check anon. A Vtuber from Hololive EN, no less. Can only judge her with vtuber standard

>>37423710
Lacking? Who cares number is all that matters.

>>37422988
I want to see one of the homos graduating just to see beggars going crazy at some girls refusing to even show up for the graduation

>>37423362
based gooks

>>37423828
isnt she doing a subathon

>>37423849
she is ending anyway
moreviewers lsot to the void.

>>37423732
Management counts as [someone] retardsis

>>37423820
Keeping it real vtubers sucks. Who the fuck want to watch that? I watch vtubers because they're interactive anime characters. I don't want to hear how much cock she sucked or her fotw political hot takes

Faumei going for yet another run instead of funneling to a shill mori stream

>>37423519
What's there to talk about when she hasn't streamed consistently for months?

>>37423926
Shitting on management isn't shady unicuck it's based

>>37423864
Kek what a giga nigga chad

>>37423889
delusional

>>37423939
If Gura farted on stream you niggers would claim it was her referencing the brappening and insulting Mori

>>37423929
and that's why asian countries will always be behind the West

>>37423997
Shitting on anyone behind their backs is shady

>>37422135
It's the only way for them to get money and "clout".

>brotuber
At the end they just a bunch of faggots gay baiting fujo, clout chaser, and refuse to do a buff content for their audience and growth by themselves

>>37423939
Damnit I spoke too soon

>>37423183
>>37423486
Keep in mind that the rankings there are by mentions across all posts. Just because people are talking about the vtuber in question may not necessarily mean they are watching them, so spammers and the like might disrupt the data. That being said, this is still a pretty good measure for who the KR audience is primarily watching.
>Kronii
As for Kronii, even before the whole Tempus collab thing she had her reputation torched in Korea. Keep in mind that KR viewers care less about male collabs compared to politics related stuff like feminism. Anyways, while people do still talk about her there are a significant portion of people that do not care for her at all.

>>37424125
The west is a hellhole of materialist decadence with the most retarded uninformed pleb class in history.

>>37423183
If she does a korean duolingo, korean will flock with her voice.

>>37423104
>>37423395
https://youtu.be/ifU1NsbLseE?t=3965

>>37422166
Huh, wonder why Miko's top.
Any Gook able to weigh in?

>>37424125
>muh west
Being ruled by WEF is not exactly ahead

>>37422174
her asmr's aren't that good, more soft speaking than actual asmr (and yes I don't consider soft speaking ASMR, its the 'asmr' people who hate asmr do).

>>37424223
HOLY SHIT ISREAL LMAAAAAAOOOOOOO. SHE WANT THOSE GOSLINGS BACK

thank you mommy for giving moom 10k+, she's been struggling hard

>>37423031
1 stream isn't going to recover everything lost, she will need to be consistent.

>>37424223
Vesperoniibros?! She's abandoning us!

>>37424223
>positive affimrations
>does possitve affirmations
seems like a stretch of logic.
specially since she talks about being better as long as youhave the minset of beliveing in yourself after.
is just the kind of content you expect for this topic also headpats

>>37424398
>I fuck up
>but it's okay because I'll always believe I'm doing good
kluckchama...

Vspo getting stronger

>>37424279
Mumei has literally said she doesn't like most present day asmr. Probably why.

>>37424321
And she'll continue to struggle
Mumei's problem is that she can't be a consistent streamer (in both scheduling and energy) due to school
This is gonna be a perennial problem until she graduates

>>37424124
And it would be true

>>37423820
You describe western shit like twitch drama, who tf want that except for you guys.

>>37422463
Obviously Peko.

>>37424135
Lmao he did it to their fat nip faces that's why they suspended him, he's not like your confrontation-averse girls

>>37423031
>Approached Vesper for collab
>Abused his poor almost-40 body
>Dumped him and reported him for harassments to the management after their interactions turned out to be detrimental and Moom no longer wanted to let her inside her pantsu
Damn, this clock is ruthless

>>37424223
>P-Please come back gachikoi I need my money...I wuv you guys you know that right
Holy shit, fucking shameless. Lie in the bed you made, Tempus slut.

Vesper mention on mori stream.

>>37424441
im pretty sure the i fucked up is on an entire different timestamp so trying to link both togheter is indeed a stretch.

>>37423031
Let this be a lesson for all the vtubers out there! UnicorcCHAD ALWAYS Win the war!

>>37424493
>facing consequences
Kronii is peak western woman mentality, anon.

>>37424125
Your western vtuber market on twitch also losing to a korean idol company.

Kek.

>>37424449
mumei is only surviving because she's cute
All the yabs and boring streams just slide off her for some reason

>>37424469
Peko was streaming all the fucking time and Miko is the one who took maternity leave.

>>37424519
Why lie?

i'm going to shit on Kronii nonetheless

>>37424519
Stop it vesperonies, let it go...

>>37423031
She said she had to redo her schedule because of the homos going on strike. I can I only assume she had more homo collabs planned. Don't trust her

>>37423104
Anon…

>>37424578
I don't understand why she went all in on the Tempus spam. If she just stuck with what she said in her members stream it would've been fine but instead she did the whole "I'll do what I want" tweet and got management to back her up and then her whole content was Tempus shit for 2 weeks straight.

She had to know at the time what she was doing so why backtrack and try to memory hole the fact she told the people who wanted this content in the first place to go fuck themselves with a cactus?

>>37424706
need timestamp for that one, anon.

>>37424706
The Bae strategy. Cuck and release.

>>37424706
DO YOU PEOPLE BITE EVEY FAKE IMAGE OF THE CATALOG

>>37424746
>Unfortunately, Idol culture is a thing

>>37424279
I know it not asmr, but i would love to hear irys talk like this, just mundane stuff nothing gfe. Like those pimple popper clip.

>>37424797
no anon. he is the one that made those threads

>>37424746
How about you stop caring about it

>>37423031
>Unicorns won.
Are you guys really this gullible? Reserve judgment a days or weeks after the suspension is over

>vesper was already a nobody
>comes back 2 weeks later and becomes a permanent 3view

>>37423820
Burgers and their backstabbery

>>37424746
Contrarian, wanted to be seen as YAAS and not cave in to pressure, wanted to make a point, realized said point would hurt her baseline DESPITE everyone telling her it would happen, tries to forget it ever happened.
Wanna bet her fans are gonna go full Frozen?
https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU?t=183

>>37424851
>permanent 3view
He is going to incline with the drama

>>37424798
Not wanting male collabs doesn't even have anything to do with some nebulous "idol culture" unless you want to blame female twitch streamers who reveal they have a boyfriend losing viewers on "idol culture" as well. If you're a woman streamer a good portion of your viewers will be watching because they want to fuck you. It really is that simple. And frankly outside of a very few talented streamers like Miko, Marine and Pekora that is all they have going for them. I can't imagine anyone willingly watching a Mel stream for hours without the infatuation factor.

>>37424176
Remember, management allowed it

don't get distracted

>>37424746
The mori way, you gotta owned the hater.

>>37424211
>Calls the West materialistic (true).
>Thinks that East Asia, so obsessed with perceived status that it's baked into their cultures, isn't just as bad if not worse.
>Particularly in regards to fucking Korea and its plastic surgery sluts caked in layers of makeup.

>>37424746
The post your replying to is as good an answer as you'll get: peak western woman mentality. Sprinkle in enough money to be free of consequences

>>37423646
>>37423746
Like for example this post got some traction some days ago. You'll notice that every detail in this post is part of some rrat known/created here. In other words, /vt/ is legitimately affecting perception of EN in Korea. (Excuse me for the wonky Google translation)

>>37424746
>>37424578
>western woman mentality

>>37424926
Only women have that luxury, homos no-one wanted will only be further ejected from the small box they were in.

>>37422202
Very good choice!

>>37424851
>comes back

>>37424934
People are taking her quote out of context

is /#/ a containment thread?

>>37424934
Depends. One of the biggest EN indies on twitch has a known boyfriend/mod yet she's still big, even when she sometimes includes him on her skits.

>>37424934
It's the same with female "friends".

>>37424934
Nah let's be honest here, Kronii, being korean, definitely KNEW what's the actual "Idol culture" is. But the western bastardized version of that word was an easy boogeyman at the time because she was hungry for Vesper's dick.

>>37424934
>female twitch streamers who reveal they have a boyfriend losing viewers
It's misogyny and idol culture is the biggest representative of misogyny in the vtubing world, same difference

>>37425004
Is /vt/ a containment board?

>>37425058
>leeching tens of thousands of dollars off lonely salary men is misogyny!
fucking kys roastoid

>>37424961
THE MOST
INFLUENTIAL
BOARD

>>37424936
Just because Holo management is super lax with contents / numbers doesn't mean you should just stream whatever unpopular shit you want

>>37424934
Just anecdotally, I watch cgdct anime and vtubers for the comfy times, no infatuation involved. I don't watch Mel tho so maybe she's absolutely boring, I dunno. An anon tells me she's the only real news source tho, so people are probably tuning in for that

>>37425058
>If you don't watch shit you don't like then you're a misogynist!!!
>If you don't fuck men then you're a homophobe!
>If you don't give trannies dicks then you're another kind of phobe!!!

>>37423820
To be fair to Koreans, do you see how much traction female streamers get there? 90% of them are e-sluts who dance on cam for them.
I think Koreans in general gravitate towards that instead

>>37422166
So what happened to Myth? Are they in the top 20 at least?

>>37425104
Is 4chan a containment website?

>>37424446
in moom's case it probably just comes from her insecurity. If she had a problem with whispering why would she be asking Fauna how to make her ear cupping sound better

>>37424961
so we're twitter now

>>37425164
She's been good at events and at the very least tries to do her part and keep things entertaining.

>>37424961
Where the ambassador of korean vt, we need a delegation for these talk.

>>37425214
They don't count myth since they are the absolute legend of vtubing.

>>37423362
>>37424961
jesas

>>37425052
Anon Kronii lives in Canada and doesn’t watch, acknowledge or even like hockey
The girl is just a shut in who loves reading webtoons

>>37424995
There's no context in which the phrase "idol culture" means anything but "I'm brainwashed by Twitter troons."
Nobody who understands idolshit talks like that.

>>37425236
koreans: "they hate each other, source? /vt/"
how is it possible?

>>37425206
What do you expect from molepeople who need surgeries to look human?

>>37425009
You can still want to fuck someone with a boyfriend anon, it just makes it harder for most people

>>37425126
And you know whose at fault? The twatter accounts and youtube videos talking about /vt/ keeps attracting tourists here.

Wake Me Up
>Wake me up inside
SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEE

>>37425312
I bet I could find such contexts in the archive

>>37425058
If not watching what you don't like is misogyny then I'm a proud misogynist.

>>37425361
Mori is gonna have a baaaaaaaad month numbers wise

>>37424961
Here's another one that's more recent. This post is about the recent 2 week break to Vesper, and is discussing the Project Zomboid server theory that was being talked about. This post even has the fucking 4chan thread in the link.

They are among us, monitoring this board as we speak. The stuff you write has a direct affect.

>>37425364
Find it then. i was actually there when she commented on her clipper and I don't remember there's additional context that could've been taken from that comment.

>>37425009
>One of the biggest EN indies on twitch has a known boyfriend/mod yet she's still big
Link to the actual numbers other than some nebulous statement about size.

>>37425308
She should learn about hololive and it culture from fauna, too bad it too late, hope she can somewhat redeem her fanbase back.

>>37425397
You think there's hope for her in December? Will she even stream in December…

>>37425449
Gura will save her.

>>37425361
Mori is the most subbed vtuber in that list
>with the least CCV kek

>>37425397
So just like every other month?

remember when mori's music carried her to the top of these view charts? me neither

>Shitposting about a sponsored stream
…

>>37425474
MVs have a tendency to pull in subs. Especially when your main demographics are edgy teens.

>>37424746
>management to back her up
This is the part everyone glosses over. Do not downplay this

>>37425428
She said it was unfortunate that idol culture makes some people get heated and take things too far and take out their anger on the talent, it wasn't the blanket statement against idol culture that people make it out to be

>>37425370
That's a fair approach but it's a fuckin shame they've killed any weight that word has.

>>37423362
>"Ame calling Gura a fucking bitch thing"
That is not a rrat because it really happened.

>>37425554
Well, no additional context that could've been taken then, just like what I thought. It's still the same "Unfortunately, because of Idol culture people gonna be so heated up about this"

which back to the tl;dr,
>Unfortunately, Idol culture is a thing

>>37425522
>Shitposting
Stream was low quality even from this bitch, you don't need to pretend like it was good in the numbers thread cuckbeat.

>>37425428
NTA, she was shitting on sippers and anti shippers, the dumb dumb just generalized idol culture to shipwars

>>37425653
So Kronii is being bad influenced by Twitter?

>>37425653
She dumb to correlate "idol culture" to shipper.

>>37424487
thats why i hate women

>>37425653
Are they even related??

>>37425646
Wait are you watching her even though you clearly hate her and had 2 other ENs and like 6 JPs on? Why?

>>37425420
I mean, 0 surprise there, which is why I don't rratpost about those that I care about.
Now lemme tell you more about Vshojo......

>>37422166
So why is Miko the top vtuber topic in Korea? Anything in particular

>>37425741
Unfortunately woke culture exists

>>37425799
they like how she fucks the blue girls

>>37425653
She doesn't even know shit about Hololive, you expect her to know what idol culture is?

I've never been to /#/ before and never really paid any mind to Kronii even before the male collab scandal, but I'm curious. Can someone tell me about her numbers before, during, and after the scandal? How has the journey of her numbers been since the original collab was announced?

months of peko gold posting here has ruined pekora for me, when i hear her voice i get a bit erect now and cant watch her streams anymore comfortably

>>37425741
yes, she was being called out about her statement of "Don't ship me with my co-workers" that then she needed to clarify on twitter that "But with girls is ok" so people started calling her out on the double standard.

>>37425848
She's right, tho. But just as it brings you bad, it brings you good, and expecting only the good without the bad, again, is her western woman mentality.

>>37425859
>she was reclining before Tempus was even a thing
>she and everyone else reclined further with summer ending
>she has whatever numbers these days
also
>scandal
kys

>>37425743
I spent about 45 seconds listening to her sing fake praises with a valley girl inflection.

>>37425848
>Unfortunately, Idol culture is a thing
>Is ahoy that One Piece music?
>Googled roboco on stream
Oh kronster...

>>37425859
I think numberanon posted her 60-day graph.

>>37425361
Persona is the only game that can save Mori, but for EN viewers I expect the first stream to be a buff and the others to do horrible in numbers, people aren't this loyal on the EN side to follow a full Persona 5 journey

>>37425865
I don't see how it's a problem.

>>37425965
I was more interested in a full-on breakdown for my puny brain.

>>37425116
>>37425177
>>37425370
>zero change in content besides the reveal that she has a guy in her life
>loses views anyway
yeah totally not misogyny

>>37425926
>is ahoy that one piece music
Please, please tell me she didn’t say that

Why are you guys comparing part 69 of Fauna ASMR streamed in early afternoon with part 2 of Kronii ASMR streamed at late night with coomer bait thumbnail?

>>37425653
No what she was doing was defending why yuri ships are ok but straight ships aren't and she defaulted to basically saying "straight isn't ok because idol culture is a thing"
It wasn't about ship wars, it was about a guy x girl interaction not being ok

>>37426018
its time to sit down for this one anon

>>37425214
So going off the data for the most mentioned:
>#11 - Ina
>#19 - Ame
>#23 - Gura
>#46 - Kiara
>#47 - Mori
For Council it's:
>#8 - Baelz
>#10 - Mumei
>#21 - Fauna
>#28 - Kronii
A few more that are interesting are:
>#14 - Lui
>#27 - Kaela
>#38 - Moona
>#40 - Ayame
>#41 - Kobo
>#43 - Olli
>#49 - Anya
>#50 - Magni

>>37426018
It's from hearing 8 notes of it in Minecraft

>>37426005
>zero change in content besides the reveal that she has a guy in her life
Why do you roasties always say there's no change even when there clearly is?

>>37426044
Vesperonii > Kronmei

Peko 30k.
Just because she had less overlap.
Overlap and timezones are too fucking important, numbers are fucking useless...

>>37426058
>>37426072
I feel like council is just the worst parts of myth but amplified

>>37426071
takamori bros...

>>37426146
Hey don't put this on all of council. Mumei said she sings unison in the shower

>>37425914
This kekkie is making some sweeping generalizations. Wait for a better answer I'm on phone.

>>37422166
Is irys that popular in Korea? I can’t remember she talks anything about Korea on stream .

>>37425926
>ahoy one piece music
that was sooooo disrespectful
it's clear she's envious of Marine's charisma and talent and is probably seething at the fact that she will never be this successfull
>>37426018
unfortunately she did

>>37426245
it's probably just her timeslot

>>37423183
Actually surprisingly Fauna does have some presence, she's 21st on the rankings, >>37426071 mentioned more times than Korone, Gura, and Towa, who are somewhat regularly talked about in KR communities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69dBAyaDm0
Someone made a short animation of gura's big brain collab lol. It's cure.

>>37424223
Once done, I won't be tricked again like how I was with Ame. Fauna can have my money because she's true and loyal and give better asmrs.

>>37426199
True, I guess a better way of putting it would be it feels like Kronii is the worst parts of myth put together

If Kronii gets the same amount of superchats on her ASMR as before the male collabs does it mean that paypigs aren't mostly unicorns?
>>37426252
How can it be because she's envious when she doesn't even know the song?

>>37426252
Stuff it, she was just a retard on that, not malicious.
>>37426245
Remember, they can speak english, and she really is great for asians of all kinds 'cause she do be how we like our girls.

>>37422166
>korea
>no towa
How accurate is this?

>>37425859
>>37425965

>>37317439

>>37426199
Mumei has bad taste
She's been seen in fubuki, korone, towa, Nene and Sora's chats

>>37426311
Is that someone you?

>>37426311
Cute you mean. Oh, this bloke, yea it's cute.

>>37426316
>she doesnt even know the song
dyrbi?

>>37426071
Fauna would be unbeatable if she has asain audience. What should she do to bait them btw?

>>37426005
Still not watching

>>37426386
She shouldn't. She should stick to a majority white and European audience because her style of streaming and references fit that better anyway.

>>37426352
Unison > Treasure box for musical taste.
>>37426386
Her streaming times, voice and content choices don't really lean too hard to the asian audience, with the timezone being the biggest one. Even if she does get some viewers from Mio, that comes down to timeslot.

>>37426386
duolingo, why do you think Bae is getting more popular

>>37426316
>How can it be because she's envious when she doesn't even know the song?
but that doesn't paint her in a better light either. if she doesn't know ahoy that just goes to show how little she cares about hololive. mori 2.0

>>37426071
>Kaela
Definitely a surprise but I’m always happy to see her being successful

>>37425997
Don't expect to find a real and reliable breakdwon in this thread.
She's reclined a lot in the last 3 months but literally everybody in the EN scene (including HoloEN, NijiEN and Vshojo has reclined a lot too). That said, her recline is bigger than everybody's else, her constant breaks,game choices and attitude towards the Tempus thing hasn't helped at all.
The top 4 in HoloEN CCVwise right now are Gura, Fauna, Irys and Mumei. (Ina would probably be the 2nd if she were still alive), none of them have collab with males. Coincidence? Idk, Mumei hasn't collabed with Tempus yet she's in a huge recline.
No matter what people say, there are TOO MANY things that affect numbers. Just check this and draw your own conclusions
>>37346266

>>37426342
>Kronii drama also kills Mumei because of KroMei shipping
Damn, fuck you Kronii.

rate the schedule

>>37426559
Finally more DDLC

>>37426513
>Gura
>Fauna
I'm glad my two favorite EN members are doing so well, even if I don't catch their streams very often anymore.

>>37422546
Fauna is mediocre for ASMR even for an EN chuuba.

>>37426513
>Doesn’t have collabs with males
>Mumei

>>37426352
Wtf based mooms

>>37426475
It's interesting because I've seen some people on /vt/ compare her with Kronii, and the Koreans seem to agree with that assertion, as she's currently beating out Kronii in terms of mentions.

>>37425653
There should be a lesson by managers to talents. There's a stark difference between real idol culture and "idol culture" made by Hololive. This should be in every recruitment test for Cover talents, and even the most untalented person who has a hard working attitude from the EN sphere could become a 10k shitter in Hololive if they know how to answer this.

>>37426613
Show me a vtuber that have better numbers than fauna retard

>>37426386
I think she'll always filter asians because her humor is way too NA focused
Some of the stuff she talked about with Mumei today is a good example. Like when they talked about their middle school dress codes or when she talked about the FMA fags on My anime list that review bomb everything.
Those are things you'll just never understand unless you already get what she's talking about

I miss ina.. i miss the old myth awkward kino.. i miss the time before nijinigger and homobeggar ruin this hobby.. i'm going to sleep..

>>37426386
It's kinda sad that Mumei, Bae, and Kronii that have worldwide audiences can't beat Fauna that only have NA audiences nowadays.

>>37426619
Yes, no one gives a fuck about the JP Stars collabs, and the numbers reflected that. If anything is happening now, it's not because of JP.

>>37426613
They're talking about performance wise retard, not quality of the actual ASMR.

>>37426071
Surprising that Kiara, who somewhat panders to Koreans and even made a big deal about going on vacation there a few months ago, is that low. Also funny that the ethnic Korean of Council is their shitter.

>>37426619
>Mumei hasn't collabed with Tempus
read nigga read

>>37426513
The yabs finally caught up to mumei
Deserved

>>37426559
So we finally have a dedicated VN guy. He should play Danganronpa, he'd probably love it.

>jwu
>excited to see at least 15k for kronii's asmr
>it's only 8k
Is it unironically over for her?

>>37426513
Jesass..

>>37426736
It's over for (You)

>>37426687
No-one likes Kiara, anon.

Oh lamy jrpg is pretty strong even with the overlap

>>37426687
since it's "posts within the last month" it could be Kronii getting filtered out. We know a shit ton of koreans watch her historically cause of her SC breakdown

>>37426719
And for a second I thought she actually would have gotten away with vehicular manslaughter

>>37426736
8k is okay when you take in the fact that a buffed vox asmr is only 9k on an asian timeslot with the most amount of kpop fanatics. The ones listening to Kronii are burgers or canadians.

>>37426664
I still remember the first Myth anniversay stream. Not ashamed to admit i shed a tear. Prbbly not the onky anon here who did

>>37426736
Grim

>>37426719
Yeah, she should have never made the Amber post. wtf was she thinking?

>>37426386
But where did those 9.8k people come from on her Pokemon stream? Are they all NA?

>>37426311
>boobs on gura
disgusting

>>37426812
It’s not her fault animal was hungry

>>37426664
Makima best mommy gf

>>37426736
Honestly ASMR streams are better judged by their VOD views they generate than their ccv, I'd wait to see if it performs as well as picrel in the long run

>>37426865
Last night PST viewers probably? It started at 9:30pm for me, perfect timeslot for me.

I don't know anything about recruiting talents, but can't they do something with the over reliance of getting really talented people for EN? I mean, was Gura ever talented? She got in because of her numbers on YT, but she never showcased her singing. Mumei on the other hand, probably had a similar vibe to Gura and HR learnt their lessons by asking mumei to sing but they failed to get much out of it due to the reason she's in school rn.

>>37426816
Why are we comparing her to someone unrelated instead of comparing her performance to the last two ASMRs she did at least?

>>37426816
Holy COPE she used to get much more on random ass games. People is tired of her antics. All she had to do was play her part and be coombait she'd be swimming in money and views.

>>37426736
>Less than Resident evil.
Some NTR enthusiast felt slighted by this ASMR I guess

>>37426910
Actually, as far as I remember, Mumei never actually sang for her audition. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

>>37426886
Jasas that crazy views. She only losing to fauna in this department

>>37426664
Same anon, same.

>>37426914
Well you compared using ccv, so I'm comparing her to someone who currently has big ccv on their asmrs unironically.

>>37426386
The funny thing is her dedicated clippers and artists are all asian.

>>37426661
>better numbers
Numbers don't correlate to ASMR skill retard. Before Holo she wasn't getting high numbers.

>>37427013
>asian
Forgot the Southeast part

Fauna's asmr is garbage

>>37427047
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT SKILL EXCEPT YOU, YOU FUCKING APE

>>37424944
SET
THE
MONKEY
FREE

>>37427047
Doesn't matter Fauna is the queen of asmr vtuber

>>37427047
It's the Ku100 buff tbqh

>>37426956
She is good when she sings musical and stop doing autistic noises every 5sec

>>37426914
Didn't she only do 1 asmr? And it peaked at 12k during the summer when everyone was still around. School didn't even start back up yet

>>37427130
Anonchama she hasn't had a ku100 in months

>>37427096
Ahh, well then disregard what I was saying (*/ω＼*)

>>37426386
Well interestingly enough, it might be good for her to take some notes on how her former partner in crime (Fallenshadow) is running her streams. Not copying the voice mind you, but whatever she's doing seems to be working as even without the Holo buff her clips do well.

Pokemonbros?!

I'm curious if some EN vtuber viewers are move on from watching vtuber into watching anime
Current season anime is hype for some people after all

>>37427171
And this is her last Ku100 stream

He tried to rape Mel didn't he...
her pheromones make even mortal men go wild, another vampire would've had no chance...

>>37426634
People make comparison that she have the same quality and mannerism of kronii but the opposite personality, she more positive, encouraging and spend time with chat aswell managing her chat well.

Kronii narcissism bit is nothing wrong but I do love some kaela positivity.

>>37426962
Step aside Fauna, Wamy coming through

>>37426386
do a chinese learning stream?

>>37427248
>JP
We're talking about EN.

>>37427243
It seems very superficial

>>37427235
Mel is proven to be the most rapeable in JP at least.
I still believe in the rrat that Gura asked for PC help and he mistook her advances and got a little too.. comfortable..

>>37427287
>Talking about an irrelevant branch
Why?

>>37427214
Pokemon Colosseum's graphics better than SV...

>>37427248
There was a post a while back that compared Fauna to Lamy in recent time and they were both pretty much neck and neck. Like, to a point where they produce pretty much the same results.

Neither stand up to Noel for very obvious reasons but they both pull out some great viewership

>>37427248
Does anyone in JP still even do ASMR?
Noel stopped, Okayu stopped, Lamy stopped..
I think the last one was Korone's member's only

>>37426332
She didn't exactly have a big month last month to bring in tourist chatter and while she certainly has a korean fanbase, they're not that large, same as all her other fanbases.

>>37427378
>Lamy stopped..
Anon...Lamy did an ASMR literally last night
https://youtu.be/9wOe70lzeYQ

>>37427378
noel is the only one that you mentioned that still does public ones, most moved to member only