/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>37383432
Recent clip numbers
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>archived at 490 posts during jp hours
Ogey

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>41,567: Koyori (Hololive)
>26,985: Aqua (Hololive)
>26,506: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,320: Kiara (Hololive)
>18,803: Nerumero (Indie)
>18,424: Fubuki (Hololive)
>17,544: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>17,042: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,909: Aqua (Hololive)
>15,350: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,200: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,138: Lui (Hololive)
>12,974: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,889: Rikiichi (Nijisanji)
>11,081: Shion (Hololive)
>10,831: Watame (Hololive)
>10,652: Shion (Hololive)
>10,641: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

which one is the correct number for met? 45k or 39k?

>>37382806
>謹慎
It means careful. 謹慎処置 is "handling it carefully".

>>37383531
Depends
if you're serious, it's 39K
if you're a nijinigger, it's 45K

>>37383504
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Lamy, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Flare, Koyori, Kuzuha, Marine, Miko, Mio, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
211x: Hololive
98x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
50x: Pekora
21x: Miko
18x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome
15x: Subaru
14x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura
4x: Koyori, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

we know Subaru's guests for her live?

>>37383504
>Koyori winning yesterday
>Miko winning (somewhat) today
PINK WOMEN STRONG

Every game is debuff for EN

what's with all the redditors coming here to defend the resource waste (tempuss)? they are not going to unban him faster and literally no one cares about them here

Grim day for the Lamies

PekoMiko daughter

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

Vesper mention on Bae stream.. What he did was not that serious and a simple mistake according to bae.

>>37383531
For the tally purpose, the number is 33.9k

What's with all the management shills coming in here to pretend Vesper wasn't unjustly suspended?

>>37381751
Don't care, this stream just showed that Pekora>>>>>Subaru on morning weekends slots

>>37383608
No she didn't?

>>37383608
roru, she's on his side then

been scouring the drama and rrat sites and theres still no real clue or real rrat on the cause of vespers suspension.

Rape baby

>>37383531
34k.

>>37383608
>sisters literally making shit up right now
fucking desperate

>HOLY SHIT!
Just heard that Vesper situation is serious as fuck and police might be involved
>source: Rosemi T3 member stream

It wouldn’t surprise me if the Nodoka stuff is ultimately what caused Vesper's suspension for creating uncomfortable working environments. They want to give the fags a lesson.

>>37383612
That's like a perfect graph of Holo stopping streams for Stars 3d debut.. and everyone starting streams again. I hope cover sees that.

>>37383632
>First stream pokemon buff
>number #425346 Judge Eyes stream

>>37383608
simple mistake that led into 2 week suspension
I kneel

>>37383567
Moona

>>37383608
>no mention of it in /hlgg/
bullshit

>>37383683
Isn't it like, 3rd stream?

>>37383675
Shouldn't have done that in the first place, look how much cancer the shipping between Axel and Nodoka.

The 'log in on fire today

>>37383675
wdym nodoka x axl is otp

>>37383620
>rapes gura
>deletes irys 2.0 files
>killed clover
>harasses mumei with dick pics
>unplugs Ina's life support
>unjust suspension
Sure thing sister

>>37383683
Retard
https://vrabi.net/video/9tgw2xkclFA

>>37383570
Koyori doing a shill stream?

If Vesper got suspended how did Miko get away with it?

I know why Vesper was suspended, but I'm sorry I can't divulge that information.

>>37383430
Maybe because she was fat when she was a child, she find them adorable

>>37383655
>>37383671
Thats honestly the weirdest part in all of this, theres literally no rumor, rrat, gossip etc. The closest thing was that vesper found out that people knew his real name, address etc due to the kpop doxing but i dont know how thats a serious grounds for suspension.

i still cant fucking believe en3 is never happening anon won

>>37383655
Because it's something that happened within their discord servers.
Can't exactly know what happens there unless someone leaks it.

I rolled a male in Genshin today after watching Pekora
God bless

>Chloe inclining because people memed her into looking like springatito
HOW DOES YAGOO KEEP DOING IT?

>>37383632
Reddit Duck was always fool's gold. Reddit Duck found a niche with literally no overlap and it has become Reddit Duck's gimmick. Whenever Reddit Duck tries to stream anything "normal" Reddit Duck's numbers are shit and not first army tier.

>>37383795
isnt there like 35 days left for it to pass jp or id gaps?

how are we holding, "bro-tuber" bros?
https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1593715273260933125

>>37383813
>>Chloe inclining because people memed her into You could thank her mama for that one

>>37383799
>within their discord servers.
? he slapped omegay during zoom call with yagoo

>>37383795
A-anon?

>>37383776
Her little brother is fat apparently, not sure if that's the reason however

Alright no shitposting, explain Miko number, it can't be all primetime, was it the shiny rerolling?

>>37383830
He's right

>>37383843
Mistakes are NijiEN

>>37383830
KEK

>>37383863
kys tranny

Did Lize just killed 2 second army and 1 first army HoloJP. HOLY SHIT. FBK,AQUA,MARINE??

>>37383778
>>37383671
what

>In the end, the psychiatrist is the psycho
Many such cases!

>Blue Lamy 2k
>Pink Lamy 2k
The Lamys are dead.

https://twitter.com/uraakapeko/status/1593955835340017665?s=20&t=zM0sbqi5lBacfP0ViIc4Zw
Some Pokemon enthusiast explain this to me

>>37383925
Thanks Kronii

>>37383894
chink buff is too strong…

>>37383894
Oh no no no no FGOkeks!?

You would think that Cover would know by now that vague posting just makes any situation worse. Yet they keep doing it.

>>37383905
just trying to see if there were any precursor rrats about the vesper thing but theres 0.

>>37383948
She's trying to decided on which Eeveelution she wants.

>>37383861
Still in denial. Nousagikeks.

>>37383938
Shill stream vs ASMR
What went wrong?

>>37383854
She was salty when the girl ghosted the fat kid in her IT watchalong as well
She definitely has a soft spot for fatties

I am still waiting for the day where Tempus will tweet something as outrageous as Vox.

>>37383861
Similar to this >>37383813
But with Fuecoco instead.

>>37383861
The only popular Holo streaming pokemon at the time.
Aqua's first stream got fucked by Susan on top of overlap hell.
Her second stream was in another overlap and during Friday night JST, Holo ojiisans were still being kept on izakayas by their supervisors.
Pekora's stream got overlapped by Korone playing the same game with added first time buff.

>>37383970
>Only 21k for the bid bad bossfight of the story
>Not even beating usual Pekora FGO
Bro we kneel to Neru Genshin number, not this

>>37383989
>ASMR
>スーパーチャットのお礼
?

>>37383978
Them even acknowledging anything publicly, and on the Corporate account no less, means its serious at least.
There hasn't been a public suspension like that since Coco/Haachama Taiwan shit. Normally they let the talents take a self imposed break which they didn't do this time.

>>37383984
I said no shitposting

>>37383894
Aqua had 26k falseflaggerchama

>>37383984
Kys 35pagpag.

>>37383978
Because the truth would be even worse for Vesper. They're doing him a favour.

>>37384026
Thank god, I thought half of JP got castrated overnight.

>>37383978
Them announcing a suspension instead of the usual break means that this is serious and now im curious as to what.
Also there are some people comparing this to beyblade boy.

>>37383894
why are you not showing from 1-7 places nigger, are you afraid of something?

>>37384079
Uh oh that's racist anon, meido's gonna ban you

>>37384121
don't tell me he used Vesper on a roommate stream

>>37383778
>i dont know how thats a serious grounds for suspension.
It's not.

This part right here
>不適切な言動といった迷惑行為が散見されたため
indicates 散見, (sanken), something like "widespread" as in
>Due to widespread reports of disturbing behaviors such as inappropriate language and behavior.

Whatever he did, he fucked up because for "sanken" to apply it must necessarily not only to have happened more than once but to more than one person.

>>37383894
pffff, NeruMero got two golds with the same content

>>37384200
>THOSE FUCKING JAPS
>SHUT THE FUCK UP JAPS, WHERE THE FUCK IS THE GOOK BITCH, I NEED HER ON MY SCHEDULE NEXT WEEK
It was racism

>>37384192
Multiple girls have done that. Kiara did it and Kronii commented on some RM shit as Kronii. So no, it's something worse.

>>37383978
Vague actually protects the talent because if they actually get fired they could get hired elsewhere without much issue. It was the same with that one Voms bitch where Gyari was getting shit for it but if she did something truly bad or reprehensible no one fucking knows. Though that bitch just pretty much disappeared

>>37384238
he was mad that his skin color was grey

JWU
Who has the gold so far?

>>37383978
The fact that it was vague and yet still be publicly announced meant that it can be potentially be huge.
If they received reports of let's say inappropriate advancements towards a particular female talent, a clear/explicit suspension of activities need to be issued while the reports are being investigated. Failing to do so publicly would cause issues when he can't show up to fulfill his previous plans, and if the reports are indeed true that further actions need to be taken.

>>37383894
>ESL

>>37384200
They probably told him to stop leaking management shit on stream but he kept doing that, so management said enough is enough and publicly shamed him for 2 weeks

I like how the entire board becomes a writing general during these things

>>37384238
I think anon meant that he might have used his vesper stuff as a a free pass to events like beyblade guy.

>>37384278
STFU AND READ THE THREAD FAGGOT.

>>37383861
>explain Miko number
spot the difference, also primetime

Wait I just realized did the tweet actually come from cover corp or is it one of those fake accounts? I cant really tell due to the current state of twitter.

>>37384327
Oh yeah that migh be it. I mean this whole thing happened right during the NY con.

Sometimes youtube is out to make me sad, putting all these next to each other lol

>>37384278
niji's tournament with 54k.
tomorrow's gold contenters probably are niji tournament day 2 and subaru's 3d live.

So, pokemon SV is a neutral game on the west and buff on japan, or is neutral on twitch and buff on youtube?

>>37384444
Do vshowhores even play Pokémon?

>>37383925
isn't that profession full of psychos irl who like to control people

Vspo getting 5view on non-FPS content. I think it's cool that they're growing and got some dedicated fans

>>37384444
still somewhat of a buff for both sites due to being a new game.

>>37384200
>It's not.
Sister, stop trying to downplay the seriousness of the issue. If it is not a serious issue they would've just let him go with a warning instead of doing this kind of announcement that invites speculation and actually damaging their own product.

>>37384414
>@cover_corp
I don't know anon, maybe try not being illiterate

>>37384503
Nose…

>>37384278
Me, I'm graduating

>>37384486
thats psychology
psychiatry is just listening to people yap and yap

>>37384547
go back to sleep vesper

>>37383655
He probably talked to a unicorn en girl and ask for a collab my bet is gura.
Here the timeline about two months ago
>He got cocky since joining hololive and the other en girls like him
>Since other en girls liked him he might as well ask the gura I mean what do you have to lose.
> Gura was offended and reported it to management to handle.
> Vesper was found out due to talking to gura which led him to getting suspended.

> they expect one of us in the wreckage Vesper

>>37384525
sorry anon there were like 10 people with @elonmusk and the blue checkmark, i cant trust twitter for shit even more now.

why is koyo sub 3k bros?

>>37384596
social conditioning is breaking

>>37384614
>bros.
Fuck you i am not your bro pagpag eater. You fucking monkey.

>>37384614
natural recline

>>37384596
Twitter @ handles are unique and still is retard, half of the holos doesn't even have blue checkmarks to be affected to any of the changes.
Go back to >>>/pol/

>>37384573
if it was that then it would be purely internal and they would have just used the break like every other time instead of declaring it a suspension which if you remember only happens at something that might involve external factors ex. rushia

>>37384289
They would have forced him to apologize, take a “self reflection break” and promise to do better on his return, like it happened to Nene.

Think about it: whatever this is, it’s worse than getting caught tracing art of a partner artist for official birthday merchandise.
It was more of the equivalent of being escorted out of the building, having his credentials revoked and told to come back in two weeks

>>37383861
Minimal overlap and primetime.

>>37384614
>Sponsored
>Sub 3k
Grim...

>sister trying to peddle the rrat that it is about invitation to collab only
I don't see why invitation to collab would be ground for suspension even if it is persistent. I would say something short of sexual harassment would cause this kind of suspension and basically no leaks from other talents.

Think about it, if it is just invitation to collab, other talents either from Tempus or any other people would complain openly on twitter because they wouldn't think it is fair.

>>37384614
Her usual numbers when she is not leeching anyone

>>37384691
Maybe he tried to talk to multiple unicorn girls.
This is the same guy that let it slip that one of them gave him advice pre-debut.

>>37384524
Idiot, what is being said in that post is that merely “being doxxed” is no grounds for suspension, and whatever it is must be serious and widespread.

>>37384691
They specifically said that whatever he did, he did it to people within the company.

>>37384732
Yeah anyone downplaying the situation is a retard

he was leaking management stuff on stream too many fucking times.

>>37384692
Sesper need a good explaination when he comes back. No one looking at him the same way again after this.

>>37384732
Wait what if its related to that sea dramatuber that quit?
last time cover had a suspension it was related to a jap dramatuber.

>>37384614
3k is fine for First Army

>>37384732
>ask
>no reply
>ask again
>no reply
>bitch
>reported

>>37384704
Miko is also overlapping 16 other streams holding 60k+ people
similar to Pekora overlapping 70k so it's probably primetime

>>37384782
I hope Vesper bring down depressed nousagi with him. It is the only positive thing that he can do for us.

>>37384750
No they didn’t, what they did say was “on the course of production”.
Could easily have been badmouthing sponsors, like the shitty PC case Kronii just got.

I wonder how sudden this stuff is
I am pretty surprised they didn't plan on shilling TEMPUS at all at animeNYC, so maybe they already knew?

>>37384782
Was Rushia even a suspension and not just a self imposed break?
I just remember that they sent a corpo tweet about how they will support Rushia and then a couple weeks later she was fired after an internal investigation

>>37384766
I hope cover search his acct real good, i smell graduation.

>>37384750
nope they never specified that it was an internal stuff.

>>37384782
*Vesper has the videos of the girls and asked them if those were true*

Holopro twitter still hasn't post this vesper shit lmao

>>37384834
>プロダクション内での不適切な言動といった迷惑行為が散見されたため
Production here refers to Hololive Productions.

>>37384843
it was a suspension

Leave it to a star to be the one to get suspended as a punishment for something retarded he has done

>>37384732
>Vesper was trying to sekuhara FBK
Possible outcome.

So many dumb fucks today. It's hilarious.

>>37384692
>Public apology
>For internal dispute
??

>>37384838
Could be. I don't for a second think that Yagoo would miss an opportunity to shill Tempus in a convention.

>>37384871
How's are things on reddit?

>>37384871
Omega saving face?

>>37384855
Even if you can't read Japanese the English tweet specifically says "internal misconduct". Even if he does it off-stream, doing it to a sponsor or leaking info to dramatubers is an external misconduct.

>>37384871
This is supposed to shill both hololive and holostars lmao what happened?

>>37384817
Nah the pokémon overlap earlier was pretty rough.

Aqua 10k waiting??

It's just weird it seems like nobody in holo really cares vesper was just suspended. I thought at least the homo friendly holo would care but mori and bae seem like they don't give a shit with their reactions. Compared to rushia which had talents breaking down.

>>37384410
So Pekora is overlapping with 3 other Pokemon streams (Korone, Choco, Fubuki) and Miko is also overlapping with 3 pokemon streams (Chloe, Noel, Watame). What's the difference then? I don't count sidebranches because they don't share the box with the main branch.

>>37384926
>Compared to rushia which had talents breaking down
Bakatare literally didn't give a shit when Rushia was terminated.

>>37384890
>public suspension
>for internal dispute

>>37384838
4 days in advance easy.

Vesper is already as good as fired when Cover goes as far as making this kind of announcement. They will legally cover their asses for the next two weeks and then fire him.

>>37384926
>I thought at least the homo friendly holo would care but mori and bae seem like they don't give a shit with their reactions.
I think everyone knows what the suspension is about. With how they responded to it, Vesper most likely deserved the suspension.

>>37384968
yes and?

>>37384936
Korone and Fubuki are relevant

>>37384926
maybe a lot of them think vesper deserves the suspension?

>>37384936
Did you check fbk and Korone numbers? That's the difference.

>>37384926
>compared to Rushia which had talents breaking down
They were happy when Rushia was fired, lol

>>37384926
>Compared to rushia which had talents breaking down.

>>37384732
Maybe he spammed someone with request for collabs and they reported it to management

>>37384926
Someone should SC them asking about Vesper.

>Vesper suspension
>Magni going back to active on his RM activity
>Axel sub 1k and declining
>Regis sub 1k and declining

>>37384812
That wouldn't lead to a 2 weeks suspension. It'd likely be a warning at most ("She didn't like that. Stop doing it"). If it was related to collab in any manner (which I doubt, mind you), he'd have had to go way further than that (i.e: blowing a fuse upon being rejected and started making factions and shit-talking) for Cover to go that far.

>>37384968
>private suspension
>just tell your viewers your dog died lmao

>First Army

This is why the homos should've just joined Niji
what did you expect from an Idol company?

>>37384871
the covercorp twitter already tweeted the message in English as well. I dont know if holopro twitter even has to

>>37385032
Magni would be the one that would most likely give a clue or read the sc.

>>37384979
Just like Coco and Haachama were fired right

>those koyowhore numbers
FUCKING KEK

>>37384838
The con didn't ask for them

>>37385069
>japs
>firing someone
unless vesper did a rushia then he's most likely gonna get relegated to the retirement home department instead of fired.

>>37385056
jesas

>>37385010
>>37384992
So? Miko will also overlap with 2 more Pokemon streams in a bit (Aqua and FBK)

>>37385069
completely different circumstances. Coco and Haachama were suspended only after Bilibili revolt to try to appease them.

>>37385045
Unicorns winning

>>37385056
LMAO
Last samurai on suiside watch

>>37385054
>sana was actually suspended 'privately' for low performance
>her dog is still alive
What are the chances?

>>37385056
Blame Hololive

>>37385058
>This is why the homos should've just joined Niji
They couldnt if they wanted to since they didnt reach the minimum 100k sub requirement.

>>37385045
>>Vesper suspension
what did he do?
i thought homos are so irrelevant they can't get suspended

People were doomposting the faggot Magni to be the first to make a yab so bad it needed a suspension

>>37385045

>>37383708
As evidenced by her viewer numbers, nobody actually watches Bae.

New First Army
Pekora
Miko
Marine
Suisei
Subaru

Aqua has been an embarassment

>>37384936
>What's the difference then?
Primetime.

In other news, Kson....You're still a lil far off from that sub goals.
https://twitter.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1593823067901501441

>>37385188
Korone should be in the first army

>>37385144
>>37385135
>t.ESL

>>37385045
They greviously wounded HoloEN. But it seems they'll be the ones to die after all.

>>37385137
That will not change her peak anymore lol.

Everyone seems surprised that the gigabased wholesomerino Vesperino got suspended but let's be honest, anyone who can spend hours and hours every week talking about themselves and nothing else is a raging narcissist. And he's also an unmarried old boomer so I can see him enjoying the company of a bunch of young autistic girls with daddy issues a bit too much.

>>37385069
Coco would've been fired if haachama wasn't involved and no one can tell me otherwise

>>37384968
you announce that the suspension of course to notify the listeners. Have you not been working ? Reasons for suspension are usually not given unless there is a legal obligation to do so.

>>37385209
t.faggot

>>37385204
Holy fuck how low can she go?

>>37385207
At this point it would be fine to replace Aqua with Korone for the first army status

>>37385188
Add gura and you have the strongest 1st army

>>37385167
tried to ask pekora, lamy, gura for a collab and threatened cover that he would not stream for 2 weeks if his request wasnt granted.

>>37385056
HoloJP numbers for nu-2nd(Koyori,Botan,Lamy, Chloe) army are schizo shit. If 1st army fucks they're suddenly 20k streamers. If 1st army is around they're lucky to get 10k.

What if the time Gura went awol for 1-2 weeks she was also suspended, its just the management didn't announce it?

>>37385056
KOYONIGGERS IN SHAMBLES KEK

>>37385045

This vesper situation proves en management drop the ball at this point. Instead of tempus we could have got en3 but look where we are now. I tried to like tempus but they should have not took en3 place this year.

>>37385045
Right in the trash can they go

>>37385271
Gura is always awol

>>37385056
Numbers are worse then a washed up dogs, and some dare to say anything about first army.

>>37385271
Keep coping fag vesper is a rapist

>>37385204
TALENT FREEDOM

>>37385271
management cant suspened or threaten gura since she has the biggers stick and she showed it off with that notgura tweet.

>>37385262
>gura
You mean the dead subs queen who's struggling to even get 20k?

>>37385264
i believe this

Chumbuds thinking their whore got a chance to join HoloJP ranks. KEK. Stop embarrassing youselves here.

>>37385258
why are you replying to yourself?

>>37385121
kek, that’s not just “japs”. In my very socialist very European country it’s almost impossible to fire an employee so the
>your desk is in the broom closet, you have zero assignments this week
is the most common way to hint an employee that he should look for work elsewhere.

It’s justified too. There was a very high profile case where a front desk woman got into a massive brawl during work hours with people and for reasons unrelated to her employment, got fired for cause and the courts forced the employer to take her back because that was not sufficient cause for firing for cause

>>37385199
Primetime doesn't matter on the weekend. Pekora and Subaru had 40k streams before, on the weekend afternoons

>>37385045
>Same management goes unchecked gets to design and hire EN3 and StarsEN2

>>37385271
Cover fears the chumbud

>>37385328
One hundred fucking K likes

>>37385343
She's BARELY on the level of flare kek

>>37384926
Nobody is going to talk about it unless they're a retard.

Shut up everyone Enna is streaming pokemon

>>37385271
Gura is the face of hololive they can't do that. The moment they tried that hololive would fall

>>37385350
Sorry but I'm not the same guy I really can't believe she's like this now

>>37385392
HAHAHA IMAGINE THAT. BELOW THE CRAZY BROWN ELF. WTF. AHHAHAHAHAA

>>37383861
she waited until primetime on the weekend to start a new game, all the girls shot their wad starting at midnight during the week and peko was during the day

>>37385360
>Primetime doesn't matter on the weekend.
Since when? Why are you making up your own rules?
>Pekora and Subaru had 40k streams before, on the weekend afternoons
Yeah, when it was just the two of them.
Are you just gonna go "nuh uh! nuh uh!" the whole time?

>>37385328
W-was that a power move she did while management was threatening her with something?

>>37385360
I think it matters. For example I don't think a noontime 3D live can ever beat a primetime 3D live

>>37385425
They nuked Rushia for wrongdoing who was giving them the most money.

You can dunk on Vesper as much as you want, but I think the real problem is the EN management as a whole, the girls clearly hate them too. Rather than hating on single talent be it HoloEN or Tempus fans should start asking questions about the retarded decisions and incompetence from management

>>37385393
Literal who?

>>37385481
>the girls clearly hate them too.
Good

>>37385464
Some people say she was having a little fun due to the date+time of the tweet being a reference to one of the songs she has as notgura. I buy it, but you never know for sure.

>>37385230
Miko, while overlapping 5 other Pokemon streams, still has more viewers than Pekora during the second hours of streaming this pokemon.

>>37385056
Only actual first army are Pekora, Miko, Marine and Aqua. I'm fine with Suisei being placed with them just due to her music and Gura as well due to her VOD views and EN CCV obviously being treated differently by youtube. However they would be like first army backups. It's still just Pekora, Miko, Marine, and Aqua.

Koyori is not first army and Subaru is not first army.

>>37385425
ok chumbud, EN vtubing yes but her leaving wont have any impact on HoloJP

>>37385464
Gura wanted a daki and management said no or "its complicated" initially.

>>37385477
She's not as profitable as gura. Gura literally have the biggest sponsorship in hololive the one that saves hololive.

>>37385537
okayu will commit sudoku

>>37385481
Very few, if any HoloEN girl at all, has displayed any actual hatred towards EN management, anon. Disagreements, yes. Hatred? Not really.

>>37385537
>no impact
>literally obliterating merch sales records
okay last samurai

>>37385477
>giving them the most money
lol

>>37385531
Aqua is not a first army. Look at her numbers right now

The absolute fucking state of sharts kek

>>37385531
Dumb fuck still wishes Gura to be first army.

I'm never watching small corpo or indies ever again. I watched one before going to sleep and I forgot to close the window. I wake up to find out they'd raided through 3 different people I don't want to watch and now they've infected my youtube and I have to prune it lol.

>>37385531
>He thinks Aqua is above Subaru
Retard

last samurai fag is a guracuck?

>>37385531
It's funny how chumkeks is so out of the loop with the JP side and think that Aqua gets better number than Subaru.

Save HoloID...please...

>>37385121
Holos/Stars are not employees. They're contractors. They've never been counted on their employees count on their charts as well.

>>37385531
Korone is first army while playing regular games

>>37385531
>Subaru is not first army.
fucking 35piss hand wrote this

>>37385531
If Subaru or Suityan isn't first army then Aqua isn't either.

>>37385481
the same management that gave Axel a free pass on his next project because they were happy with his results? sure

>>37385629
>Thinking Reddit Duck is above freaking Aqua
Aqua is one of the most iconic Hololive members and is basically solely responsible for Hololive's rise. Reddit Duck can never compare. Go back to your home Reddit Duck shills.

>>37385531
Can CCV anon post that chart (with the median) again?

>>37385585
chumbuds are as delusional as ever. Anon, her leaving wont affect the popularity of any HoloJP, neither their merch sales nor the love and dedication of their fans.

>>37385694
Of course she's not first army, being tourist central doesn't make you first army, she literally had a 5k watchalong yesterday you fucking retard

>>37385621
>be holofag
>watch some small corpo because she plays grand strategy games
>join her sekrit discord group
>exclusive discord VC with the lads
>VC devolved into holo-shitting fest
Never again. Already lost count how many times it happened.

>>37385697
Reddit Duck needs to rely on a gimmick with no overlap on weekends to get anything resembling good numbers. Suishit needs to leech from Miko to get good numbers. Not first army.

What if holoEN management gets upset at how badly their talents are getting treated by JP management including suspending Vesper without good cause, and decide to break away to form their own agency with the boys and girls? How badly would that hurt Cover?

>>37385713
We're talking about the present state of Aqua, retard. Her fucking stream right now gets bad number for a first army and she hasn't gotten any gold in a while.

>>37385663
Jesus just graduate them all

>>37385743
>How badly would that hurt Cover?
non considering none of the current en talents would join en management if they made their own corpo.

>>37385477
That's Susei and whoever gets the most merch and sponsors so sankisei atm

Can she beat the game tonight?

Youre only First Army if other holos leech off you
Pekora, Miko, Marine all get leeched
Aqua has been leeched by Shion, Marine, Subaru (in fact she is mostly responsible for her rise) and Suisei
notice how aside from Shion those are all first or second armies, they wouldnt leech a loser
Who leeches Subaru? The baby from Nijisanji?

>>37385735
Everyone hates Hololive, for some reason. What's the cause?

>>37385762
Not this chart, the other one with all the first army grouped together and 2nd army 3rd army etc

>>37385481
Not your army faggot

>>37385743
EN girls actively hate upper management. Only the guys have a reason to because they get the red carpet treatment.

>>37385791
>put superior dragon and plant pokemon in the pc and use garbage tier plant and dragon pokemon.

>>37385802
Something something grapes something

>>37385766
The current state of Aqua who has more golds this year than Reddit Duck despite MUCH less streams? Yeah, Reddit Duck isn't near Aqua's level.

>>37385802
Success breeds jealousy

>>37385802
>What's the cause?
Success breeds jealousy

>>37385824
Upper management is Japanese so all the more reason to quit.

>>37385799
>Youre only First Army if other holos leech off you
This is literally gura

>>37385827
Hey, she just needs to get it to evolve, salamance is great.

>>37385799
Reddit Duck still leeches like a shameless whore. She had to force her way into a leadership position with Miko and Mio in the sports fes. Reddit Duck can't stop leeching.

>>37385271
Gura never went AWOL for 2 weeks, it was a goddamn hurricane. Stop trying to find any possible reason to schizo out and deflect from Vesper's fuckuo.

>>37385799
>Who leeches Subaru?
choco luna botan, sometimes noel

>>37385840
jap is top management
en management is upper managment

>>37385802
Success breeds jealousy.

>>37385167
kept DMing gura about collabs or wanting to help with her pc problems only for her to block him and for him to then make a new discord account to get around the ban after her pc died

>>37385743
Who even will follow EN management over JP management? Mori still got the contract so she will follow JP anyway.

>>37385848
Shes EN First Army (the only one), but the EN military is very weak

>>37385802
Success breeds jealousy

>>37385828
>The current state of Aqua who has more golds this year
Only because of apex tournament buff.
She barely gets any gold since then. Her fucking 3D didn't even get 100k for fucks sake

>>37385875
holojp would be doing better if those shitters in the yellow would quit.

>>37385743
>holoEN management
>suspending Vesper
The notice was in Japanese. If EN management needed to be in your rrat then say that they instigated Vesper to talk shit to JP. And JP fucked him directly and not through them as a lesson to EN management

>>37385663
>Tempus killed HoloID

>>37385913
>Wanting Sora to quit
kys

>>37385477
holoJP has multiple faces/popular talents.
all of holoEN numbers flow through gura, getting rid of gura would almost certainly lead to the demise of holoEN

The way I see it is that first army is an unquestionable position of dominance. The only unquestionable first army members that nobody disagrees with are Pekora, Miko, and Marine. Everybody else has ongoing debates on if they should be there which means, to me, that they shouldn't be there.

>>37385893
>>37385836
>>37385832
>>37385881
Stop harping on the same shit over and over again. Nothing Hololive ever does would demand people hating on them. No drama, no politics, just some anime girls enjoying their games and people shit on them and their idol culture automatically.

Love watching homofaggots shit on EN management. If EN management was competent we wouldn't even have Tempiss and the whole Holopro cringe account.

>>37385599
>now
cope
aqua is first army because she is the MVP of hololive

Kobo can't even get 3k despite that insane sub growth. Sad

>>37385743
Take a look at how well holoCN management is doing now

>>37385903
>denying an accomplishment
So Reddit Duck is only "first army" due to streaming on weekends with no overlap. See how easy that is?

>>37385884
EN can just buy out the contract from JP, UMG would prefer to deal with them over some retarded nip company
>>37385924
>gets upset at how badly their talents are getting treated by JP management including suspending Vesper without good cause
Lrn2read

>>37385958
>Nothing Hololive ever does would demand people hating on them
Their success makes others seethe anon thats why they hate them.

>>37385913
EOP worry about your EN whores first.

>>37385875
Thd needs to be updated again.

>>37385743
>How badly would that hurt Cover?
It would actually be benificial for Cover, because they will lose all those useless retards in EN management.

>>37385995
>EN can just buy out the contract from JP
with what money anon?

>>37385953
First army = Floor of 20k during primetime

If you can't get guaranteed 20k during primetime then you are not first army

>>37386017
You need help if you think the rankings will change drastically.

>>37385958
But their success is literally why people hate them anon. It may be harping but it's fucking true

There's no pinned tweet on reddit for Vesper suspension

>>37385663
>Kobo 3k shitter now
>Kaela 2k shitter now
>Zeta 1k shitter now
>Gen1 and Gen2 are 3views now

>>37386046
>If you can't get guaranteed 20k during primetime then you are not first army
multiple first army including pekora and miko has sometimes failed to reach a 20k floor in primetime anon

>>37386046
Using your own illogical fallacies will not save your whore anon.

>>37385968
This.

>>37383557
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
203x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
49x: Pekora
28x: Kuzuha, Miko
20x: Marine
14x: Subaru
11x: Salome, Suisei
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Hololive
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Fubuki
4x: Aqua, Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
209x: Hololive
97x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: Noripro
1x: 774 Inc., Holostars, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
33x: Miko, Subaru
32x: Pekora
26x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura
9x: Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Hal, Korone, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Choco, Fubuki, Hayato, Iroha, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>37385958
The anon who started this said he was on a literal who corpo chuuba discord, it's jealousy ffs

>>37386046
thats not what first army is
first army are the most important members

>>37385827
Her garchomp has negative atk IV.
It belongs on the PC

>>37385995
>UMG would prefer to deal with them over some retarded nip company
UMG would deal with who would give them more money and in this case it would be hololive and not the breakaway group.

>>37386055
Of course. Aqua will get lower average and Miko will get higher average for example

Your not First Army if you dont bring something special and buff to Hololive. All of Subaru's strengths she is just a weak version of another holo (JRPG Streaming - Peko, Hosting - FBK/Mio, Lying - Marine)
Aqua is a retired First Army. The APEX Arc was her last run like when Lebron won the COVID Championship or an Esports Star has their last run at age 26

>>37385992
>due to streaming on weekends
Retard. Even when Subaru streams on primetime she still gets really good number. Meanwhile once the apex tournament ended Aqua's number immediately plummeted.

What kind of events hololive is gonna put out in ANYC?

JPs>>>>>>ENs
Simple as.

>>37386046
>guaranteed 20k
many of Subaru's stream don't hit 20k
most of them don't even get 15k on overlaps

>>37386148
EN3 and homos graduation

>>37386118
Vesper suspension twitted by Cover, Holostars, and Hololiven account but no tweet by HoloproEN.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>37386110
Another delusional ESL faggot.

chink maid ain't first army. end of.

>>37386110
Ok then, so Fubuki, Korone, Mio, Sora and Matsuri are first army?

>>37386156
>he says this when hololive was made relevant due to eop/esl

>>37385953
This is the most reasonable take. All of the borderline first army members can form a very powerful 2nd army.

>First
Pekora, Miko, Marine
>Second
Aqua, Subaru, Suisei, Gura, Korone

>>37386175
HoloproEN management are cowards, had to hide behind JP for that statement cuz they know they don't tardwrangle homos

>>37386194
in 2019 maybe

>>37386201
Hololive became relevant because of JP clips made by EOP/ESL.
By the time EN arrived, they were already riding hololive's popularity.

>>37386194
I am perplexed at how dumb someone can get to force their oshi up the rankings.

>>37386194
>mio
>sora
>Matsuri
kek haachama is more important than all 3 combined, don't kid yourself

>>37386141
Aqua got 40k eating Sushi

>>37386222
Means holoEN has nothing to do with it faggot it's JP management trying to fuck Vesper over

Holo Pokemon SV viewers looks like it has a hard ceiling of 70k.
What went wrong? Pekora's BDSP finale has more numbers than this

Between HoloEN and StarsEN, Cover could just look at their datas and debut another female gen but didn't. EN 3 could earn them more than a million in one single year but didn't. What compels them to debut a StarsEN gen? Is it because of Luxiem? Did they get into their heads and promised them eternal riches? If it was early 2021 when Myth was dominating and Hololive was booming, another StarsJP or EN gen would've done the trick, but they still didn't do it.

I blame the timing the idiots in Cover. It took a global pandemic to make Hololive popular, but they sure as hell won't capitalize on that.

>>37386156
He said this when Koyowhore failed to break 3k

>>37386232
same with sankisei anon.
any holojp post gen 2 debut is just riding on the hololive popularity.

Why are people today being more retarded than other days? JP vs EN, excusing Vesper, le chink onyan vs reddit duck

>muh first army (some meaningless jap term based on CCV)
you people are honestly insane to spend so much time debating it.

All this talk about "First Army" and nobody talks about the TRUE POWER BEHIND THE THRONE!

how many times do we have to say it. New popular games will always be a debuff in the beginning. Everyone wants to play without being spoiled.

>>37386254
During the time she wasn't getting less than 60k nigger

>>37385875
Nobody is using the graph because they are all delusional schizos. They actually make a koyoschizo first army rant look like mere seething.

>>37386264
>Homos can do no wrong
Forget about all the yabs they had in just 3months

Any weebs here? Is this true? Because that would finally give some insight on the whole ordeal without relying on retarded rrats.

>>37385735
Post images

>>37386264
It means EN management is trying to shelter someone who's been committing abusive acts, but the upper management (JP) caught wind of it and are deliberating his final punishment.

>>37386281
lol
lmao
Sankisei made hololive popular.

>>37386316
>New popular games will always be a debuff in the beginning
Biggest cope I've ever seen

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1593963339184738304
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1593963339184738304
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1593963339184738304

I get the feeling Nowa is fine, since Mori and Bae would be a lot less chipper if he was getting fired

>>37386357
Hololive became popular after myth debut retard

>>37386314
Fuck off, she's a boring whore and people wouldn't even notice if she graduated

>>37386264
They're uprofessional af, the main beach had to slap them down because EN coddles them too much

>>37386357
Gamers made it popular.
Sankisei was just riding on the wave.

>>37386399
Cry more copper boy

>>37386383
He did something stupid and got bonked. It's no more serious than that. This is just another example of Cover's policy of vague posting being dumb as fuck and creating the rrats that they hoped to extinguish.

Remember lads, vague posting, not even once.

>>37386314
>choco, mel and aki are the ones that pull the strings
its a spicy rrat but i believe it.

>>37384926
Now it the chance to use holoen =/= staren

>>37386264
I mean, this is the same guy who likes to go "what are they gonna do, fire me?" on stream.

>>37386344
>recurring
Yes, see >>37384200
>"self reflect and moderate his behaviour"
There is a perfect word to replace all of that
>penance

In the good old Catholic tradition, he might have been forgiven but is required to pray some 100 Our Fathers and 1000 Hail Maries to show repentance.

>>37386383
Mori was among the only ones that talked positive around Rushia's termination. This doesn't means shit.

>>37386399
VAMPIRE HANDS WROTE THESE WORDS

>>37386444
They knew that vagueposting would lead to rrats anon but Vespers actions had a need for them to tweet it even if it would lead to rrats.

>>37386383
A two week suspension is not "being fired" so why would you worry about that in the first place?

Guys fling more shit! Imma put it on the HololiveTV.

>>37386316
More like RPG game is always a debuff because no one can be arsed to watch 31 hours of "gameplay" of fighting the same monsters over and over again. They're usually only a buff during the very beginning and at the very end.

https://twitter.com/Randonneuring/status/1558348848266760193
OH NONONONONONO STARS SISTERS

>>37386466
Cover has no problem of thanos snapping CN, depressing Coco, deleting Rushia and forcing anyone who yabs to get a suspension. I dunno why he was so full of himself as a sidebranch of a sidebranch

>>37386517
>A two week suspension is not "being fired"
Here is a question that nobody asked so far
>Is he OK with his punishment
>if not, will he become a repeat offender and get outright fired

Think about it: his initial claim to fame was to diss his former workplace and spin a tale of
>AT LAST I HAD MY PLASTIC BALL
That should have been a red flag, maybe the problem was he himself and not his employer

>>37386572
Oh he just updated his profile bio

I understand now why Vesper was suspended.
Management is grooming him.
He had a few minor yabs where he spilled some spaghetti and went a bit overboard. They just did it to condition him so that he doesnt do major yabs in the future to come. Basic grooming of a talent.

>Vesper flirted with A-chan and Nodoka easily
>He thought all japanese girls are easy
>Tried to "make friends" with HoloJP girls
>Fucked up

>>37386593
Sounds like they're a black company and he should quit, what a fucking miserable place to work for

>>37386572
GRADUATION SOON

>>37386182
shut up eop scum you dont know shit about JPs yet want to decide who is first army? dont make me laugh.

It was Gura, this image proves it.


Stolen from the catalog.

Vesper is done and not only on Youtube.

>>37386572
>>37386612
>don't duck with me, I'll cry

kek
>IT'S OVER
that's all I can say

>>37386658
kek

>>37385583
Kronii hated her previous manager so she asked to get transferred to a new one.