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Tempus was a mistake
>>37215987Recent clip numbers>>37210365>>37210392>>37210438>>37210471>>37210525
>Niji this month so farno wonder so many nijikeks are seething.
>>37215957she's in the middle, are you so angry you're going blind or something
Looking at Towa's numbers lately i wonder if she decimated her very noticeable Post Start End incline by refusing to become part of the Holo Rust arc fucking Luna decimates her in the numbers department now she is now the runt of Gen 4
>Ayame is streaming>No one is sperging outSomething is amiss. Numbers report. What are the likely cause?
current cripple is kiara 7.9k, vox is probably not streaming, still no stream room
>>37216029
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>87,608: Lamy (Hololive)>60,948: AZKi (Hololive)>36,721: Pekora (Hololive)>25,434: Okayu (Hololive)>24,660: Koyori (Hololive)>24,221: Subaru (Hololive)>23,680: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>22,679: Iroha (Hololive)>21,167: Miko (Hololive)>20,649: Botan (Hololive)>19,224: Gura (Hololive)>18,835: Patra (774 inc)>16,502: Lize (Nijisanji)>15,457: Kurusu Natsume (Nijisanji)>15,085: Salome (Nijisanji)>13,656: Koyori (Hololive)>11,809: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,659: Koyori (Hololive)>11,575: Kronii (Hololive)>11,108: Koyori (Hololive)
>>37214586what does this have to do with a holokr?
>PekoMiko daughter
>>37216037he probably got another "panic attack" just from the thought of fucking Kiara beating his most buffed stream
>>37216035that and her numbers also got decimated because of the decline of the fps scene
>>37216036Last samurais too busy doing damage control for Cover's continued neglect and abuse of EN.
Does en even want to be idols? Forcing westerners to adopt jp culture seems impossible.
>>37216037it's still vox asmr on cripple tally anon. he still did a stream past midnight
>>37216013Add mori to that as well. If we had just accepted Idol culture maybe EN would have their idol costumes by now
>>37216036She streams now. Not consistently but she streams.
>Ema 10k peak>Noah 3k peakWTF happened?I thought Noah are among the most popular VSPO girls?
>>37216053>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Lamy, Suisei1x: Flare, Kuzuha, Marine, Miko, Mio, Yashiro>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY208x: Hololive98x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER50x: Pekora21x: Miko18x: Kuzuha17x: Aqua16x: Salome14x: Nijisanji13x: Subaru10x: Marine7x: Suisei6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura4x: Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Koyori, Mayuzumi, Mel2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta
>>37216035isn't that more just because the fps people are in the dump, i haven't seen people like hal get good numbers in a while
>>37216091Noah doesn't have a popular ship with an esports pro.
what's an idol?
>>37216063Koyori a cute>>37216075
>>37216036Well... 3 streams a month is incline compared to no streams in 2 months...
EN are not idols
>>37216076>he still did a stream past midnightIt wasn't past midnight though
>>37216091Shipfags effect like roberu and mea.
>>37216076he did not. he started his stream 5 minutes before midnight
>>37216091noah got into some yab i dont remember
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceannplaces to end up for these girls include>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri
Thoughts on Ayame.
>>37216076nigga eyesight reps
>>37216036ayame seems to be back on the aqua/shion schedule, aka a stream every like 5-7 days for a couple of weeks and then 2 weeks of silence and repeat
>>37216075Literally only Gura.>muh kiaraThe one that said that Holomems weren’t real idols? Yeah nah
>>37216142leaking discord convo about her kouhais not responding, iirc. dumb woman shit
>>37216162She's a lazy whore, but everyone got used to it long ago, so whatever
>>37216063worst ritual poster
>>37216100Yea, this is the bigger one. Also, new apex map has had a nasty freezing bug that basically meant the game is unstreamable for the past few weeks since the start of the new season.
>>37216110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wOBwf_vsTw
>>37216162she's a whore but my cute whore.
>>37216162Cute whore but a whore none the less
>>37216162She's lazy but she's really cute so I forgive her.
>>37216162OUJO
>>37216075Well the biggest vtuber in EN market, the only one with 5views on practically anything in any time zone, is the one who adopt JP culture the most, so i dunno what do you think anon
>>37216118la+ "eceleb cocksleeve" darkness it is instead yeah.and you cannot even cope with the muh rm on her
I'm surprised mysta didn't do any collabos even on break and is taking a proper break
>>37216035lol didn't get any bites last thread so you just reposted
Towas below 4k?
>>37216162my cute whore
>>37216270what's wrong with that? That's usual stars number
GRIM for EN
>>37216110AKB48
>>37216110A miserable pile of secrets?But enough talk.Have a (You)
>>37216174I'll give Kiara the ESL benefit of doubt and consider that what she was really saying was that they didn't have the harsh idol lifestyle that she associates with being Idols.
>>37216162she cute so all is forgiven
>>37216270its ow2 with an orgy of males, who would watch that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DiN87kF9LMMatsuri 5.5k in this overlap.
>>37216076Get your eyes checked nigga
> Ayame doing a "drawing" streamwtf, is she trying to replace Ina?
>>37216075I'm sure Mori tries her best to convince everyone that idols are cringe so her shitty rap is still relevant.
>>37216110some say an idol is someone that inspires and motivates others, no matter the subject or the waythe practical real world way to look at it is a multidisciplinary performer that's supposed to provide the experience of a journey of improvement, generally in the singing and dancing departmentor a lying whore
>>37216091Noah's by herself, Ema is playing with an already popular past collab group
>>37216270She doesn’t have her FPS meta to rely on. It’s not really a surprise, everyone here already agreed that she replaced her old JP fans with apex and FPS tourists. So what happens when you remove the fps?
>>37216162https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArknPUMZMk
>>37216316I think the problem is her team telling Towa to stay with fucking Lucio…
>>37216358Gura provides the experiences and is not a lying whore
>>37216341
>Birthday stream
>>37216390>Gura provides the experiences and is not a lying whore>Gura (...) is not a lying whore>Gura>not a lying whore
>>37216162I'm impressed by how well she was able to maintain her brand despite being inactive for such long periods. It would be impossible anywhere but Hololive. Maybe Nijisanji but I'm not familiar enough with their streamers to find any examples.
>why don't Myth and Council have idol outfitsCause they aren't idols.
>>37216162She has no thoughts whatsoever in her calligraphy so far, but that's her cha—mu pointo
>>37216174>Actual former idol who loves the field and has a deep knowledge vs “my favourite game is Sekiro”
>>37216244>Thinking people outside of thread shitters careNTA but I even followed her instagram. I don’t care, they can do what they want. I just enjoy watching thread monkeys throw shit at each other
>>37216397Wtf i love ojou now
>>37216418Now show her b2 cross-stream numbers.
>>37216418
>>37216162cute butt
>Pekora collab>Not even 30kLamy is a number poison
>>37216110>>37216358>>37216390I saw clip of Pekora saying she want to be the number one streamer and I feel that is a very ambitious goal that she is trying her best to achieveThat is idol, I look up to Pekora
>>37216311Being a vtuber and irl idol doesn’t actually have that much overlap. People don’t seem to have any idea of what traditional idols do for the most part. Playing videos games and casually chatting with fans online aren’t really a major part of their activities but it’s like 95% of what most vtubers do.
>>37216397
>>37216442At least their low poly 3D have idol outfits
>>372164802 POVBut yeah this was lower than even Noel, we can blame overlap or whatever but the campaign is shit too
>>37216378unfortunate she cant play shit she wants. always gib slave in apex, now lucio slaves in ow2.
>>37216442I'm banking on surprise outfits either during the Japan trip or HoloFES.
>>37216452>>37216428Nice try nijinigs, you never let a chance slip to try and bash the shark
>>37216110>>37212960.
>>37216428munichama...
>>37216037>Probablyhttps://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1592693833581891587He's not. how the fuck is this man a streamer
Kek
>>37216553Wait is it actually gonna be chicken cripple gold? This guy got the mental fortitude of a 5 year old child.
>>37216434>Nijisanji>Helping maintain their livers brand through a long hiatus. The demise of Crossick, Hana jettisoning her early fame because of impostor syndrome and Salome should tell you all you need to know. None of the OG Nijis have the clout or the internal structure to mentor the new waves like how HoloX are currently being groomed by Gen 3 and Korone.
>>37216515At least Gib is more fun to watch than Lucio in my opinion.
>>37216553>how the fuck is this man a streamerBecause he's not. He's the closest we have to an online vtuber gigolo.LMAO he actually chickened out (hehe) to lost against Kiara's scuffed 3D KEK
>>37216553how do we save mr coom
>>37216481she number 1 in ccv she doesnt need hours watched
>>37216529Knowing how EN works, they want to keep it a surprise and reveal it at a major event or a mandatory group collab.
>>37216174at least Kiara has some songs and she's working on an album, Gura wants to be an idol with 1 orisong in more than 2 years? Rumao. inb4>nijiniggger!!!Cope
>>37216474source?
>>37216485Traditional idols were limited by the technology of their time. I think Hololive vtubers have succeeded by accidentally perfecting the flawed idol formula with the power of technology.Their idols are streamed directly into your homes at all times of the day whereas before they need to rent stage space and fight for TV space. Their idols don't age and and be farmed forever. Their images are perfect because anime features have no flaws.Even on the side of the performers, they're protected from the nastiness of the cutthroat IRL idol business because of this.
>>37216656If he actually tried and still lost to Kiara he would've had a mental breakdown. Couldn’t risk it. Although does anyone have an updated hours watched chart? Kiara beating Gura is one of those weird anomalies that just makes me laugh my ass off.
>>37215987Koyori lost.
The youtube povs during the crcup ow scrims. Towa's team is very unpopular, she's the biggest ccv on her team. Kinako is the only other one above 1k. Other teams have very popular streamers like Kuzuha's 20k, noob's 30k (twitch), daruma's 24k (twitch), shaka's 20k (twitch) etc
>>37216397>Slaves gives master gift>Master happy
>>37216174When is she going to put effort into doing literally anything? You know, the idol journey part of being an idol?
>>37216714There's also a audition benefit. Vtubing means you can select the people with the best personalities and character whereas before you had to compromise to get a pretty face/body.
>>37216736you can't call every pink woman with ears koyori anon, that's racist
>>37216480Should've played this with Kiara or Moona instead, Lamy is boring and just dragging the stream down, she doesn't know how to interact with Pekora you can tell the rabbit is just checking out.
>Aqua is streaming right now.
>>37216673Sometimes it feels like cover doesn't give a shit about optics. Last year, how hard would it have been to announce EN outfits before the HoloX outfits even if they were coming out later.
>>37216714I don't disagree but it's also easy to see why Kiara thinks comparing them makes no sense. On a very basic level they are doing different things on a daily basis with at best a pretty small overlap. Conceptually yes they target the same demo/ideals, but as a practical matter I don’t think Ame is spending much time on dance and singing training. Not 0. But not much
>>37216743Looking at this it looks like FPS numbers declined hard
>>37216778no she's not
>>37216804She used to believe... it made her great to watch.
>>37216786Remember how Myths 3D got announced?Random twitter post saying it got delayed.
>>37216110Oshi no Ko.
>>37216778so does Shion.>>37216817https://youtu.be/ea55cnDHxoY
>>37216544of all holoen members, its only gura,kiara and bae that states they are idol
>>37216867manjigumi is ALIVE
>>37216037She got 8k on vrabi
>>37216110They're illusionists. They dazzle and flourish and you know logically it's not real but they can make you believe and that's real magic.
>>37216110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QBzP6T-9qU
>>37216830I feel like a lot of the talents don't understand that sucking is fine, but earnest effort to improve and respecting your fans is really all fans really want. Emphasis on the earnest. Shitting on your fans, filtering them, being poisoned by irony are all much bigger problems than being a shit singer/dancer. I don't know how much of the fanbase realizes the standards for idol singing is incredibly low, they aren't expected to perform at the level of an actual dedicated singer. The vsinger/vtuber distinction makes a lot more sense in that context
Gura strives to be an idol like Aqua and Marine, severely limited to the tech only at her current place. That's the only way to win. Gura is at the top of EN because she's an idol, and fauna is her manager,
>>37216912This. I still don't know why it's so hard to understand for many EN retards. Even one of my favorite twitch whores feels like it despite being a whore.
>>37216980I like this headcanon
>>37216980So she strives to not stream?
>Married? No! It's not about restricting my relationship, but I have been in your position before (ichimin). I can't imagine if my Oshi having relationship with the opposite gender.>One day I do want to get married or having someone but I will do it after I graduate from Hololive and my time is over but as long as I'm still Hololive member then I will hold myself, oh yeah like VA when they get married near their 40 hahahaThis is why Marine and some of JP are the best in the industry.
>>37216185>BRRUrrrrurrrruurRRRRRROOOOOOOOO*THUD*OOM
>>37216980>No songs>No deliveryTry again chumbud. All her senpais put some effort to get where they are. Gura meanwhile is just coasting on an algorithm boost from going viral two years ago.
>>37217026her ceiling keeps dropping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrlw2g_gBDMWho's this girl and why does she have 2.5k in a dentist office?
damn you idolcuks are actually delusional. wtf is this tread
>>37217065>>37217026As it should.
>>37217026What even is her timeslot? Just pick a timeslot, stream in it consistently, don't actively filter your fanbase. Why is that so hard?
Saying that EN aren't idols isn't even a shitpost at this point, all EN does is suck off males and shit on their fans. What idol actively goes out of their way to spite their supporters? And no cumsharts, doing one 3D live doesn't make you an idol either. Hell, she doesn't even like majority of her fans, only those who give her money which is jew behavior. Kronii, Mori, and Ame all have the same mindset about idols and the rest of EN just doesn't care.
>>37217065?
>>37216980>Gura is at the top of EN because she's an idolkekpeople like her reacting to stuff chat does more than the idol shit.She'd be a way more popular react streamer.
>>37217081seethechama...
>>37217035>>37217061>aqua and marine doesn't stream as much and only puts out 1 song every yearboth of them reminds me of gura and they both act like a retard while cute
>>37217026quick recovery?
>>37217026How do we stop mori recline she fallen out of the box, Hololive motto is nobody left behind how do we bring her back to the box.
>>37216091>even the vspo viewers ghosted noah…
>>37217081>ESLWorst than NijiNigger
>>37216485It's shortsighted to have such a strict definition of what an idol has to be. Even if you don't consider them to be traditional idols, they still would fall within the realm of alt idols>>37216804I understand why Kiara feels the way she does due to her own past experiences but it's hard to take her seriously on this when her opinion is at odds with what many of the JP girls think and want. It just comes off as putting her own past on too much of a pedastal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkUS2woB2HIFlare 10k playing Mohun sponsored.
>>37217145only herself
where the fuck is Vox's frame???Did he really want to let that shitty whore to get gold with a fucking 7k unarchived karaoke 3d stream?????
>>37216553HAHA. GIVE IT UP FOR THE WORLD'S GREATEST BETA MALE. CAN'T BELIEVE VOXSISTERS LOVE MANLETS.
>>37217139The difference is they put effort into gaining their current popularity, even if they stream less now. Gura never did.
>>37217081I dunno, a b-movie?
>>37217145stop her retarded double dipping. no one want is benefiting. fans will just get confused
>>37216951Learning method acting could be good. It'll let them tap into the positive feelings they need to stream and perform. Even if some things about their fanbase make them uncomfortable they can use the good things about the fact that people want to watch them to help engage with the audience in streams.In a way the girls are being tested, pioneering this medium with unique challenges that traditional performers never dealt with.They're like theater actors, but it's all improv and they put a lot of their actual selves into the performance.
>>37217181>shitty whore>7k>not mentioning how scuffed it wasseethe
>>37217155I mean by that definition most athletes, musicians, movie directors, etc are idols. This is approaching what is a sandwich territory. It's pretty vague but I don’t think Kiara is crazy for drawing the line somewhere either.
>>37217181>>37216553
>>37217186>Gura never didGura did more in the first 4 months after debut for hololive than aqua and marine did
>>37217145Graduate and hang out with her real friends instead. She'll unironically incline, and will be much happier too.
>>37217076>eww, her molar is on screen.She's part of the Aogiri Vtuber high thing, first one that got 10k in a long ass time with their "run till 10k" double stream with Tamako, the queen of Sex.https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/大代真白/あおぎり高校美術部
>>37216547That's a name I didn't expect to see pop up...
>>37217145It's one thing to also put on some work on your rm.It's another thing to kickstart your rm career again on the back of drama and openly said, to quote her, "I can't do my main job if I don't do this".
>>37216951Kiara understand this, she even explain it what an idol is.
>>37217260She can't because of the UMG contract kek
>>37217260I dunno, she's declined so much physically she might be better off in hololive. The last remaining cuckbeats will probably be loyal for a couple more years.
>>37217076>this singing and talking voiceShe's 99.1% Suisei
>>37217007Hey, I don't watch the ones who fail to keep to it. It's why I dropped Mori and Kronii, and I'll have no issues dropping anyone else who slips up.
Could Gura become a jazz/citypop/opera idol of the west?https://youtu.be/DoUEBcecgtI?t=170
>>37217260Her fault for taking that UMG contract then KEK. >Oh yeah it's only because no major label even wanted her rm KEK
>>37217227Idols were a made up term by the Japanese anyways to market their "artificial celebrities"
>>37217007Twitch are full of retard and most of en audiances are the same aswell at this point.People complain in catalog that they should abandoned idol concert and concept and become a streamer. I believe it from nijinig, but it not muxh different than EOP at this point.
>>37217386>Artificial celebritiesAnon every celebrities are artificial, let's be honest here.
>>37217076stop shilling your 2view whore here holokek
>>37217428I know but Japanese idols were even more so. Literally taking random pretty girls and making them famous.
>>37217260>Unironically inclineHistorically speaking, literally no female Holo has inclined in the long term after graduating from Hololive yet. If Mori's rm was that popular, UMG'd have signed the contract with the rm instead of going through Cover.
>>37217139>Aquahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swX1O_a_vAkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUP3OI9Yhmchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgSrULHibghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAk9Vn4psQIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16WxRVoTAx0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nCpQFvr-U4>Marinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_hUpHUTJwQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-5W7SFHDc>only puts out 1 song every yearFucker are you in coma for the entirety of this year?
>>37217386Kek thinking celebrity real
Imagine if someone in EN would ghost their fanbase for months and then getting 20k for a goddamn drawning stream. How does she do it?
So we hate idols here?
>>37217467>Literally taking random pretty girlsAmerican Idol...
>>37217505oujo cute. also supported by the primary hags of the company
>>37217469The incline will be from being able to go full throttle on Twitch activities, including collabs with ecelebs like OTV and Hasan and taking part in Twitch talkshows. Though I suppose that might only last until everyone on Twitch realizes how dumb she actually is.
>>37217528Only nijinig hate idol, why would holofan hate the very brand of it...
>>372175051 - life isn't fair2 - she's cute. That's it
>onion and garlic streaming at the same time>both members-only streams tooDid they plan this out?
>>37217467You could say the same thing about any American reality TV show. Just look at the Kardashians
>>37217260>>37217469In Hololive she still has a chance to go for the stars. Leaving will relegate her to being a mid-low tier streamer doomed to be an accessory at best, desperate leech at worst.She'll sacrifice her ceiling forever.
>>37217505By being cute. Just look at the TW hololive chart. Just a bunch of simps for cute girls like Aqua, Ayame, and Pekora. Kek. Not that i care since TW is going to get fucked over by China sooner or later.
We hate hololive and holokeks here.
>>37217402>most of en audiances are the same aswell at this pointIt's telling that, despite all their posturing, EN audiences like to be lied to, and idolfagging, as I said before, relies completely on lying. They just hate when girls act cute.
Why do you all want EN to get all the HoloX treatment right now when they'll just get killed by EN3 and that's assuming the branch will even last long enough for that to happen.
All of mori's streams the last 2 weeks peaked below 6k. rough
>>37217467You say that as if hollywood wasn't propped up to be that way
look at all these numbers
>>37217549>that might only last until everyone on Twitch realizes how dumb she actually isShe'll still have popularity associated to her name. The twitch cloutchasers will never let that go, and considering she's a fucking retard, they'll just keep humouring her.
>>37217369Even if not, fuck generic j-pop. It's the reason I can't stand most of IRyS' karaoke.
>>37217596>The American version of idols are the KardashiansWhat did we do to deserve this timeline?
Lize with Yashiro 20k.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z11dKpKgr3YAny chance Niji management had a talk with her after the Omori month talked her yearly?
[Sad News] Mori intends to stay in hololive for a while>I'm not exactly new anymore, ya know>So why am I so bashful, kind of thing>I've been here a minute>And, uh, I'll likely continue to be here for many more minutes
>>37217667It's not supposed to be a clock tho
>>37217164why is capcom still shilling this game? the last expansion was months ago
>>37217628>we
>>37217718She REALLY want that road back into the holobox KEK
my cute wife
>>37217718She should consider focusing on hololive for a second too
>>37217667she goes to sleep at 5?!
Did niji stopped botting? Their YGO numbers got so low already
>>37217718>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bashfulOh fuck off, you retarded cunt.
>>37217718Well yea, but she dun fucked up and it's gonna take quite a while for her to work her way back.
>>37217667>mspaintHas she been diagnosed with any mental deficiencies before?
>>37217779I banged your wife yesterday. If you don't like it, fight me irl. I'll be outside at 3am.
>>37217779>wifeonahole
>>37217718Maybe dedicate a bit more than just 5% while you're at it
>>37217200But I though all deadbeats were doxxbeats and are fine with double dibbing?
>>37217479Marine should post more covers again I didn't realize it's been that long since her last one
>>37217779
>>37217796people got bored, will probably waiting until the tourney or bots
>>37217807She's my cute retarded wife, leave her alone.
>>37217718she's playing her tee-hee persona? her numbers must be grim
Um, why are Flare's viewers going down in steps?
>>37217718Is it even possible for her to get back into Holobox? Many of her ex-fans either watch indies or move to Kaela and some of Council
HoloJP = Kemono Friends S1HoloEN = Kemono Friends S2Did I get this right?
>>37217859My bots failing.
>>37217859presentation over
>>37217807>mental deficiencies>AquaNo anon, no retardation in this chuuba, no sir...
>>37217718Are you retarded or just pretending she hadn’t already said she wasn’t leaving for many many years? What is this?
>>37217720she got very confused when she tried to draw it as a clock
>>37217718The reality of her recline is hitting her like a freight train right now, huh? She's scared.
Why do people say Ayame is a whore anyways? She seems too cute for that desu.
So people say that Lui and Koyo hate each other but what if they are one person? I don't think we have ever seen them in one place together
Aqua says she doesn't stream because she keeps sleeping during prime time and then doesn't want to stream in the middle of the night
JWU, what was the HoloX announcement about?
>>37217872kemono friends s1 was unexpectedly great. it was bizzare
>>37217818Cuckbeats are fine. general holobox is not. The box is sentient. they knew when someone half-assing their holo job.
>>37217863Every time I see one of these extremely specific >X fans all switched to Y posts, I just assume it's anon projecting their own experience.
>>37217872Myth - the promised neverland s1Council - the promised neverland s2
Wtf is mori doing?
>>37217883NTA, but I was hopeful she would fuck off to her roommate as she appeared to want and finally become off-topic.
>>37217864En will say it's culled
>>37217834
>>37217872Myth - NarutoHope - Naruto shippudenCouncil - Boruto
>>37217917Anniversary merch, manga debut, 3d lives, original song with mv, and 3d idol outfits
>>37217910>gamer meido>gamer schedule>doesnt play gamesAkutan...
>>37217941Tempus - the ova no one asked for
>>37217917animate merch, jump cover, 3d live relay for their annis + group 3D on the 4th, new mascot (probably), idol outfits and group mv
>>372178642M sub with coomer thumbnail can't beat a shit eater now
Akwa, my poor akwa.....sick and getting the needle treatment multiple times because her blood veins are too small and the nurse keep missing it.
>>37216836Fiction bullshit by hack artist
What is he doing
lol Mori is using the entirety of her member stream to advertise her streams, desperate
>>37217809Stop imitating me! If you got beef fight me IRL. I'll be at the park at 3am going for a walk.
>>37217863It's very hard. One of her issues is inauthenticity. There are no quick fixes. She can only improve her brand through genuine action over a long period of time.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5oeJJDGJQiMPekora and Lamy MOGGED
>>37217872Myth - steins;gateHope - steins;gate episode 26 (Actual hope in this one)Council - steins;gate 0
>>37217941>>37217983but council has higher number than myth(-gura)4v4 so it's fair
>>37217943crawling her way back to the holobox
>>37218034>dead subs
>>37217985>>37217995Council…
>Keep your tab to watch my streams, my schedules are packedMori advertising her streams...
>>37217909we saw them once, in probably one of the worst collabs i've ever seen: hours of dinosaurs and awkward talk
>>37217983>Myth>Naruto>Pink haired girl ruins everythingAh yes....
>>37218034sana love
>>37217155By this definiton of Aqua, EVERY vtuber is an idol, so what's even the point of the term ? Just call them vtubers.
>>37218016Fuck you, Yokoyari Mengo has nothing to do with the story. Aka akasaka the Nijinigger is the writer
>>37218072I smell desperation
>>37218072>>37218025Why are you watching someone you very clearly hate?What the fuck is this?
>>37217897She's got videos out 10x worse than notNoel. It's kind of disturbing hearing that cute voice scream sometimes but it's really hot at the same time.Source: I heard it from some Koreans.
>>37218079she doesn't ruin the doujin though>Until MILF sakura ruins everything
>>37217155This sound like a gigantic cope from Aqua the more I read it ngl
>>37218023Same energy.
>>37218093I think it's important to draw a distinction between what the HoloJP girls are doing vs, what the streamers with avatars are doing
>>37216174Me on top of the head
>>37217897Boyfriend
>>37218121Koreans give you a source on those vids???
https://youtu.be/_OLDwgbgt_Y?t=51Imagine getting dino gura for her 3D debut
Apparently mori and some of tempus may be in the jaidan animation massive subathon.
>>37218118They're deadbeats
>>37218034>debut stream was 120k>already down to 36kArtemis-San is reclining…
>>37218186Rosemi member stream?
>>37218095Hacka is too busy playing APEX with Nijiniggers to write it anymore he's completely handed it over to Mengo, which is why the MC is about to get NTR'd by the only girl anyone likes anymore getting casting couched
>>37218125>Until MILF sakura ruins everythingUnless it's a Sahara Wataru doujin.
>>37218093There are streamers that stream with no love in their heart and survive by baiting, leeching, and dramafagging.
>>37218118You can't? Why?
>>37218186>someso I assume it's Magni and Altare.Magni i'd bet all my money on.
>>37217897I won't take it lightly that you called my slut a whore, anon
>>37218121>No link
>>37218216I have better things to do with my life. I don’t like Tempus so I just don’t watch them.
>>37218204T3 ofc
>>37218143Forgot file.
>>37218023He's doing some illegal funneling to his teammates to fuck up numberfags.
>>37218152I mean, what's the difference between say, HoloJP and VShojo ? People like Silvervale did dancing, concert, idol performnace, song release on top of their usual streaming. Is Silvervale an Idol ?
Hello! Divegrass Anon here.I have closed the poll that ran these days on the roster. The percentage indicates the amount of people who voted that particular player to be removed (you could vote for more than 1 player)>The following players will be removed from the team. -The Sana Line (66.7%)-10-2 (57.1%)-/news/ (28.6%)-Natural Incline (28.6%)-Seething 2view (23.8%)>The following players will be promoted to starters-Cripple Gold (0%)-The Z (0%)>The following players will be updated-KING -> BronzeboiIn about a month, I'll hold another poll to add 5 new players to replace the dropped ones, as well as the new music and positions.Thansk for participating!
>>37218210You talk as if those are the exception when they're the fucking norm.>>37218093>together with the fansKey point.
holy shit, cover's care for their side branches just flew over my house
>>37218205Wait, who? Please not Kana…
>>37217986games give her ptsd.
>>37217993Myth DragonballCouncilrys DragonballZTempus Dragonball Live Action Movie.
>>37217718Most holo even if their at the bottom will still want to stay. Even the star shit show want to stay until fired. The benefits out weight the demerits.
>>37218293>-KING -> Bronzeboibased
>>37218033I used to like Mori because of how authentic she felt. When she had her first birthday and released Red, I bought her merch. Idk what happened, but at some point I just could not stand her any more, and anything she said made me cringe from how fake it sounded. Literally what happened to her? Or is it just me?Not sure how she is nowadays since I try to avoid anything she's in.
it seems there's a bunch of jps planning to stream pokemon as soon as it's out at midnight
It sadden me that kobo fell this hard, the management pull the no male collab trigger too fking late....
Today I will remind them
>>37218302>>37218210Maybe dramafagging etc are their way of shining and being an idol. And maybe their fans like it (drama do get a large audience, after all), so it also fit the together with the fan as well.
I always forget how much I actually like Mori’s voice when she does solo streams. Why cant she just be chill in collabs?
>>37218356shion, fubuki, are the usual suspects
>>37218354Money and fame just reveal her true self, wasn't it?
>>37218062It peaked at 700k or so right as the rocket hit max-Q
>>37218062they broke 700k earliercouldn't beat spacex's 2.3m ccv record though
>>37218382Twisted idols, yeah, perverted by their environment.
>>37218417chloe and koyo are also streaming it
>>37218354I don't like the moment she had a trouble with her holo career, the first thing she thought wasn't how she could mend it, but run to her rm channel and start being passive-aggressive to the holo fans that criticized her
>>37218354vtubing is all about the illusion. All chuubas are fake and when the spell is gone it's all over. Happened to me with Kronii.
>>37218354Something that makes the girls appealing is that "they try their best." Eventually Mori was phoning it and lost her humility and it was kind of gross.
>>37218354>and anything she said made me cringe from how fake it soundedIsn't that how she always sounded? It is not she sounds any different on her rm streams.
>>37217779Go to bed, Regis
>>37218370She got the charisma but her contents suck, people just move on from her.
>>37218293>doing this to KINGGood to know a holobronie manages this team. Fuck you
>>37218354she used to be humble when she started, but now..
>>37217897she played league with her boyfriend during coco's graduation
>>37218354She let things get to her head, and it started to show on stream. It's really as simple as that, and it culminated in the whole 'condomn money for connor-lean' arc.
>>37218473This is why Gura is on the top while Mori's light is dwindling. Once you lost that "good grace" fans are gonna judge you solely based on your content quality, not because they appreciate that you created said content.
>>37218509Now she literally said she thought that JPs wouldn’t want to collab with her anymore because she “was worthless”?
>>37218370>management pull no male collabwhat? didn't she just randomly play valorant with astel just days ago?
>>37218508sorry but facts are facts nijibrony
>>37218430>>37218431Damn, why are rocket launches such a massive draw? Isn’t 2.3 Mil even higher than Mr Beast’s highest CCV?
>>37218183>>37218249No, this was a jork about the Ayame hating Koreans meme. I guess I didn't do it well.
>>37218183>>37218249Holy newfag
>>37218354she lift the veil and let you and many other of her fans peer thru the illusion, even if you knew since the beginning that a great deal of the Mori persona she was putting forth was constructed as long as she wouldn't dispel that magic you could always fall back on it, this isn't even a trust / unicorn whatever issue, it's the foundation of vtubing and at large acting a role.
>>37218550Talk about pitybaiting. What, is she fishing for some SCs?
>Almost same stream length>Bae has more CCV but Kiara has more likes
>>37218571Rockets are cool. Also small chance of huge explosion. Also with Falcon Heavy they had the dual booster landing which was cool af
>>37218283Good conundrum you've presented, but I'm not familiar enough with her to do any evaluations. If she's doing her best and creating a good environment I'll define her with an idol moniker.
>>37218205Good, now that realism.
>>37218610It was a members only stream dipshit
>>37218527Gura has never tried though
>>37218283>Is Silvervale an Idol ?Ask her if she considers herself one
>>37218631And you can farm SCs from your members. That's where most of your paypigs are
>>37218558That was last week.
>>37218571Dunno about the others, but I was watching, hoping for the launch to epically fail so they stop wasting money on this boondoggle
>>37218508>holos think I'm a nijifag because I add too many niji players to the team>nijis think I'm a holofag because the team makes fun of nijisI only follow the numbers
>>37218508because he's a FUCKING JOBBER. How the fuck is he and sana losing to kobo
>>37218571it's a spectacle. if it blows up, it's even more of a spectacle. starship launch in dec/jan will probably break 1m at least.
>>37218647Exactly, she never tried to rock the boat, that's why she's on top. Good that you noticed, anon.
>>37218647She's also never taken a flamethrower to her fanbase the same way Mori, Ame and Kronii have though. At worst, she's guilty of ghosting.
>>37218508Is manager were a holo-die hard he would have been named pewter-king, not bronzeboi.
>>37218615Bae had more Japanese tourists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z82yZaLYbt4Does she have a death wish? It's a fucking Wednesday why is she streaming at this timeslot
>>37218631mumei scs mostly on member streams..
Honestly the en scene is doomed at this point at this point many are there legit using it to become face cam streamers because every big en indie at this point doing body reveals even fucking shylily and rye.
>>37218631>you can't farm SCs in members only streams
>>37218651If the only requirement is to consider yourself an idol, then I'm an idol.
>>37218669It's how you know you're doing a good job capturing the spirit of the thread. Keep on keeping on.
>>37218354I also think she was really distressed by her social circle shaming her and she could only deal with it by being the way she is now.
>>37218681Weren't they all responding to a few trolls and not their whole fanbase?
>>37218387I've only ever seen her in collabs. I always found her too off putting to check out her solo streams.
do you think EN management back down from holoen tempus collab after seeing that it only killed the girls and didn't even help the homos numbers at all?
>>37218689She camped at Gura's slot now. I mean, she only stream 3 times/week so it's a good move from her.Too bad that day is also the day Gura streaming, though...
>>37218608you're confusing giving the benefit of the doubt with being able to enjoy a clearly fake persona. It's not about being able to "fall back on it", it's about self-respect.
So, Ine finished streaming, she peaked at 17kOnce she was done fans just scattered to the other 2 Isegye and a bit to their manger, making them pass 10k too.No raids.A dedicated box is a frightening thing.
How the fuck is this random Lize stream outperforming every single Niji stream today
>>37218764>goslings >trolls
>>37217872>HoloJP = Kemono Friends S1>HoloEN = Kemono Friends S2It's more like>HoloJP = Saint Seiya>HoloJP = Crunchyroll Knights of the Zodiac
Poor blue women...They overlapped too many hype things today, and it's likely their first collab too
>>37218832its a collab with a rare partner
>>37218693we always said EN would never work because western whores wouldnt be able to do it, they fooled us for a bit but it really was true aside from guralike you look at the other ones who dont have menhera melts that they cant whore out on stream and its a literal jap hafu and two girls with boyfriends
>>37218764none of them showed any nuance
>>37218879What.
>>37218830These girls won’t even be recognized in the top twitch vtubers kek
>>37218841More like>Berserk (manga)>Berserk (animu 2016)>Crunchyroll Knights of the ZodiacFucking trash that tarnished the name of the franchise, better have not touched it
>>37218370Wait, they actually push a brake on it?
>>37218679Holo en at this point is just Naruto>Gura is Naruto was said to make through hardwork but got big thanks to having a massive gremlin trapped in her.>Mori is Sasuke got jealousy got gura growth left the box for the powers of the darkside.>Ame is rocklee can't really sing or dance but got to her place through hardwork.>Kiara is sakura because she useless.>Ina is Kakashi the chill one and cool one.
>>37218581I was playing along with you. Guess that didn't go well either.
>>37218844It's a shame, but that's just how it is sometimes. Pekora and Lamy are a pretty good duo and they bounce off each other well though.
>>37218917Of course not, the only valid vtubers are from VShojo, and I guess that Shylily whore that the others hate.
>>37218932>The shitposters are shonentards
>>37218911He's calling the majority of EN V-Tubers whores. Aside from Gura, the only ENs that don't have menhera meltdowns are IRyS, Fauna and Mumei. Personally, I'd add Bae to that list, but she's a runt with no niche so who cares about her
>>37218951https://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176
>>37218615Myth is giga culled confirm?
>>37218939Why the fuck are the past few days so hype anyway? Full of big collabs and announcementI am struggling to find the energy to be hyped for anything anymore
>>37218764Alas, there IS a reason I used the term Flamethrower.
>>37218974Bae started as a whore
>>37218666What’s your problem with the Artemis program? Seems like the only realistic long term plan that any space agency has concocted so far for actually putting people on Mars.
>>37218615didn't >we warn (you) about the debuff euro hours?
>>37218974But why only isolate Gura, what the fuck does their history have to do with how how they act on stream? Like why even mention Fauna and Mumei like that when they've done everything right by keeping it off screen (if they even still have them).
>>37218932>Ame is rocklee can't really sing or dance but got to her place through hardwork.Rock lee is also a genuine guy that only has bitterness towards himself though, never with anyone.
>>37219000If Ame is responding to a troll mexican pesos superchat for example, why would other people who aren't trolls feel attacked?
>>37216029Blue...
>>37218932>Mori is Sasuke got jealousy got gura growthI don't think Mori at this point minds that she isn't inclining anymore. She probably misses her indie times and not being in a spotlight.
>>37218879It's not even about whore or notWestern women in general have this mindset that the world revolve around them and that everything else must change to accommodate them. Happened with Kson, happened with Mori and pretty much almost every big western female Vtuber >"Muh changes">"Muh cultures">"I can do whatever I want"
>>37219003Nah, I don't consider a chuuba a whore if they were honest about their male opinions/situation from the beginning.Like some twitch ones I follow, one said how it was the guys she lives with that helped her become a chuuba and one other aalso lead up to her redebut saying how she lived with one of her mods.
>>37219052The great majority of ENVTubers are whores.Look, I am not saying that all ENVTubers are whore. If your oshi is not a whore you shouldn't feel attacked. Just admit ENVtubers are whores in general and be done with it
>>37219052lol had to be a teammate>>37216029off a lot of the big hitters are on break right
>>37218932>Gura is Naruto was said to make through hardwork but got big thanks to having a massive gremlin trapped in her.Can you tards stop citing the Neji fight like it's the central theme of the show? Naruto's arc was about being an outcast who was shunned because of guilt by association. He always had a godlike amount of chakra but was too stupid to properly utilise it. The whole show was about Naruto earning the love and respect of his village, hence why he fought so hard to be Hokage. And it's why the end of the Pain arc where the townspeople were cheering him on and tossing him into the air is the culmination of the arc, showing that Naruto is now an accepted member of the village.
>>37219117Who? Most of them are active no?
>>37219107>hololiveEN cant work because western women want to whore out on stream>no this one isnt an example of that because she just whored out from the start instead of pretending for a year and then whining she couldnt whore out
>>37218944>Shoto>Lilly>SnuffyNever recognized.
what is this fucking en naruto post holy shit i'm dying
>>37219193Snuffy likes to take a lot of breaks.>maleWasn't it about female chuubas?
>>37219117most holojp are back, only roboco is on hiatus
>>37219133>showing that Naruto is now an accepted member of the villageThey really need to just stop the series at that point, desu. Everything went downhill after that.
>>37219107There's no expectation from the majority of the fanbase that they should state a clear stance about male collabs at their debut and never deviate from it, since that's not the main reason people watch them. So there shouldn't be any difference between Bae and the others
>>37219003Of everyone in EN, Bae is genuinely the one I could most believe is a virgin. She is sheltered as hell.
>>37219224vtubers in general.Not like anyone outside of Shoto matters for numbers among the males.Even Mysta is sub 5k.
>>37219298Real life doesn't matter
>>37219298Wasn't she relegated to the shame shed because her parents didn't want her to move out but her streaming activities were too disruptive in their house?
>>37219133wasn't it more that they sealed his shit up so he couldn't actually use chakra correctly for most of the time? i think that's what i remember happening at least.
>>37219298And Ina
>>37219011It's late by 8 years and has insane cost overruns (~$40 billion spent so far) despite using what's supposed to be well-tested 1970s STS techAnd by the time we finally do get a moon landing, it's likely going to be completely obsolete by StarshipFuck, if it wasn't for SpaceX, I bet bugland would beat us back to the moon
>>37219213Once again.https://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176
I never watched Naruto and never will, go back>>>/a/
>>37219350Not only was she relegated, her parents built the shed for her after she started streaming
gura is the luffy of EN
Fuck off with your Naruto. Listen to Noel's ASMR instead.
>>37219362Ina went through college in non-covid times. Only way she'd be a virgin is on a technicality of lesbian sex not counting.
>>37219106>Implying JPs girls don't have the same problemsLuckily it doesn't show up that much in Hololive, but women in Japan are just as self-centered as in the West if you dig into it. The more accurate thing to say is that JPs are conditioned to hide it in public, which Western women used to do until the mid 20th century.
>NarushitDisgusting taste
>OH MY GOD THESE GIRLS ARE WHORES AND ACT LIKE WHORES ON STREAM, TALKING ABOUT THEIR SEXUAL ESCAPADES AS IF PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR THAT. THEY DON'T GET THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PLAY A CHARACTER AND KEEP THEIR RELATIONSHIPS AND SHIT TO THEMSELVES AND STOP SHOWING FACE>HoloEN doesn't bring any of that shit and play their character while still being themselves>Bitch at them calling them whores anywayWhat the fuck do you want from them really
>>37219440their numbers
>>37219355Nah, Minato's seal didn't affect his chakra control. Kakashi himself mentioned that he had 5 times the amount of chakra than him, so he kept using it excessively to the point that he wore it out faster. I believe this was when Kakashi forced him to train by walking up a tree. Orochimaru's five-pronged seal that he added afterwards (which Jiraiya promptly removed after he found out about it) is probably what you're thinking of side Orochimaru added it deliberately to fuck with Naruto's chakra control
>>37219440Make a comment like this >>37217044
>>37219423Yeah that's the problem, the "freedom" teaching. Watching Vtuber have unironically turn the word "freedom" into something negative for me, it doesn't mean anything anymore
looks like there is a drama in riot music right now.
>>37219440See >>37216836A pretty illusion. If you can't maintain it, just say you're sick.
Why are people trying to act like their oshis are virgins? Isn't it just a simple fact of the world that if she isn't fuckin you she's fuckin someone else? That's just the reality of things.
>>37218370Kobo fell off, but so did rest of ID. Kaela fell off hard from her lower peak as well.
Who got the gold today?
>>37219213Shit is some of the most brain dead analog i've ever seen on /#/, literally wrote by a 10 years old. If you use Naruto for Myth Gura would have the talent of Sasuka, the heart of Naruto and some attitude of the shadow control genius who's a lazy bitch.
>>37219491But HoloEN does keep up the illusionAgain what the fuck do you want from them
>>37219493because the whole point of this is to avoid reality, i want her to pretend that she is
>>37219423>JPs are conditioned to hide it in publichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemaeMeanwhile EN landwhales want to feel validated and believe everyone should cater ot them.
>>37219529Subaru Miko and Mio
>peak JP hours>zero talk about JP streams but people comparing EN members to Nuruto characters Like whoa man
>>37219487Source: the voices in your head?
>>37219558SEA hour
enshart
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1592895278104854528Another stealth drop with no MVAre you fuckin serious
>>37219531It's easier to think they maintain the illusion when you don't understand their language
>>37217044This is exactly what I expect. They can do whatever they want after graduating.
>>37219582IRyS has no control over her music
does EN maintain the illusion? do they?
>>37219572https://twitter.com/saki_ashizawa/status/1592876660923039744
>>37219531>does keep up the illusionPlease tell me you don't really believe this. At least not from all of them.>Mori being passive aggressive>Kronii with her stuff, but you could say she's just autistically retarded>Watson trying to do shit even when she's feeling mad and spitefulI don't have a particular beef with the rest, just wish they would thrive more.
>>37219541That's fine and I'm with you on keeping up the act. But some of these guys are talking about having a boyfriend or if they're really virgins. That's just not a realistic expectation.
>>37219582who cares
>>37219487Riot music chuubas or LOL soundtrack team?
>>37219546So do you have a clip of any EN talking about having a boyfriend?
>>37219546they do a decent job conditioning you to accept it like >>37217044 but they dont insultingly throw it in your face "im gonna whore out in your face and you have to like it"i dont think anybody was really upset when kanahana announced she was getting married just like they wont when marine does in a few years since shes gonna be obaasan age
How about yall put this effort into something productive? I just finished a basic FGO cutscene with Holos
>>37219622>actual minorityAgain, refer to >>37216836. Many know yet still want that fiction, it doesn't make them "evil incel unicorns".
>>37219558Gold had been decided, numbers are waning, it's past midnight JP, Pegors and Wamy are done with the campaign
>>37219676i'm sorry, i thought you were gonna post an example of something productive
Reminder that this is who you're arguing with in SEA hours.
Who won the wheelchair race
>>37219531Keeping up the illusion means actually sticking to it and not bringing it up at all. If you vague post about how lonely, tired, sad, or stressed on your roommate then it doesn't countEveryone says "oh the character and person are separate" which is a nice sentiment but everyone knows roommate posting gets in the way of the perfect shiny illusion.
>>37219676Procrastinating at work, being paid while watching holos
>>37219724kiara
>>37219582Is it really surprising?It’s gonna be another 6 months before she’s get another slideshow MV
>>37219724milord rp asmr
>>37219636not IRyS, clearly.
>>37219345I think it adds a bit of a cuter context to Bae’s interest in homo collabs. Like that anime trope of a girl who wants people to think she’s a huge whore when it’s obvious she’s never so much as even held hands with a boy before.
>>37219703don't know, the guy sounds kinda based except for the posts about ID
>>37219724The whore won
>>37219546Like I said, this sort of thing used to be the default in the West too. Various 20th century social and cultural movements destroyed it so we're stuck seeing what women without restraints on their behavior are really like.
>>37219622>It's not a realistic expectationWell until they can meet those expectations then they'll never stand up to the JPs who can convince people otherwise
>>37219732So, let's say, Nene telling on stream she's depressed about her numbers to the point she got herself in the hospital is breaking the illusion. Korone going on a break because someone gave her mild criticism is breaking the illusion.
>>37219582>>37219746>It’s gonna be another 6 months before she’s get another slideshow MVMods in her discord agree with you
Someone actually dared to say something, bets on how long it will stay up?https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ywvu50/about_holoen_and_general_transparency/
>>37219675Also Nana Mizuki. Again, you can be an idol while announce your marriage intentions, the only thing you have to do is not being a bitch.I really don't get why it's so hard for many EN whores to understand it. Hell, there are even twitch whores that get it.
>>37219756She goes to college in a first world country. That seems unrealistic
>>37219679I never said such a thing. I also want them to keep this stuff off stream. I don't want to know or hear about this info from them. I just don't like everyone calling them whores because they don't have a squeaky clean past that no one has. I don't like some vtubers because they talk about all the irl stuff and drama behind the scenes.
Ok I have never heard Pekora laugh this much with someone after finishing the game
>>37219807Nene menhera posting does ruin the illusion that's why her numbers are shitKorone going on a break is fine she didn't depression post about it. See the difference?
>>37219732I like my lonely depressed oshi. Overcoming this is part of her idol journey
HERE NUMBERFAGS!> if Naruto is not a weakling, how come Hinata and Sakura are french kissing?CHECK AND MATE, NARUTOFAGS!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLtU_rXKLzsAlso> PROVE YOU'RE NOT A NEWFAGNAME EVERY ANIME AND COSPLAY YOU REGOGNIZE IN THAT AMVhard mode: no portalsultra hard mode: more than just Naturo, Demon Slayer and Samurai Champoogod mode: you watched them all
>>37219813>transparencylol, I don't think the guy meant it but that tends to be an obvious sign of the retards that want to control decisions
>>37219703Why is this guy shitting on side branches while at the same time praising IDs?
>>37219820its not really their fault, society has conditioned them to think they can do this with no repercussionsthis western shit has started to bleed into japan too, just look at laplus
>>37219582>stealthShe knew this was releasing during her break and said so on stream multiple times. She did nothi g to promote it and now we get the fake outrage from people who totally watch her and totally knew about the song.
>>37219826At least me, I just call them whores regardless of affiliation or past, because they're playing an anime girl on camera, which is virtual prostitution.Wanna make bank? Sure. Wanna be a bitch about it? Well, sure, just let me tune into another one.
>>37219864>she didn't depression post about itShe litteraly did. On stream.
huh, pekora and lamy shilling nene and mel re6 collab
>>37219695If you asked. I whip this up since I have a free afternoon
My timing couldn't have been worse for browsing the catalogue
>>37219820Nana Mizuki has been in the industry for TWO DECADES dudeGetting married when you're old is not the same as doing it when you're young. You can get away with it just fine after a certain point.
>>37219799They aren't convincing the people who are outright doxxing them, even the JP girls fail that kind of scrutiny. I don't remember any of the EN girls talking about past relations on stream or was there one I missed?
>>37219927that's the other songthe got notified about this one todayhttps://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1592812770336337921
someone is super upset. is it that 2view schizo that got btfo in that holox bait thread
>>37219953No it isn’t. Actual virtual prostitution is da girls.
>>37220008No she knew about this one too. She said it during her karaoke
>>372198251st generation asian is a debuff nothing can overcome
>>37220008No, its not. She recorded this song last month and said before going on break it would be coming out when she was gone, along wjth the MV for Gravity. You don't even watch her.
>>37219973
>>37219973Nice attempt, but the ESL hurt to read.
>>37217369>Dead genre Don't
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It's Covers fault IRyS has known about this song coming out for over a month and didn't talk about it on her streams at all.
What was the first 10k stream?
So...no peko bronze?
>>37220118Maybe she's not allowed to
>>37219973Korosan’s jacket needs to be more vibrant
>>37219616so she is complaining she can't do a birthday live but her coworker just did a mini live on her birthday?
oh... he madreal mad now
>>37220068Kek looking back it I really half-assed the drawingI hope I will get to use this particular Korone in another script
>>37219825It would be if not for the fact that she lives in a fucking shed built by her dad on her parents property.
>>37220123Hai...
>>37219953In the end, we all either sell our bodies to an employer or leech, be it donors or welfare.
Watame 10k
>>37219813He's getting the usual, they don't owe you anything, posts.
>>37220143>>37220096Thanks for the feedback. Will fix it laterNow let's just forget I post that just so the thread won't be derailed
>>37219901I could give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was being sarcastic.
>>37218210Anon, here's a though for youEveryone is leeching everyone else
>>37220142https://twitter.com/saki_ashizawa/status/1592876489137324033
>>37219582>Suisei's new song is always released during her live and she'll always shill it>Meanwhile IRyS new song always got released randomly without any noticeWhat is wrong with her manager?
>>37218354The problem, anon, is that you're /here/
>>37220362There's a fundamental difference hereSuisei music is her so she can choose when it get released and where to shill itIRyS music belong to Cover, she don't get to decide what they do with it alone
What is even the official reason for the redesign nowadays?
reclining
>>37220518Because she looks like an ugly fucking goblin
>>37220362>What is wrong with her manager?TOP FUCKING KEK>who is IRyS producer?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDyZ3VgjcCE
>>37220539I mean the official reason outside of /here/
>>37220362IRyS being a wallflower doesn't help, but this is absolutely something competent management could and would help withI seriously don't get why they can't coordinate to release music after karaokes or other hype streams/eventsIt's like they don't give a shit about her music and just throw it into the voidGranted, it's mostly generic JP crap, but still they're completely wasting money on this
>>37220560...no really that's the reason. IRyS wasn't happy with it.
>>37220518There is none. They haven’t even officially called it a redesign yet, they marketed as “a new look” or something. IRyS already flat out said she’s gonna look different when she comes back.
>>37220551Irys is practically Omega showing how he can "produce" one talent in a vacuum.
>>37220560She asked them for a change because she’s an ugly goblin nigger
>>37220566Just telling IRyS to make an announcement stream would build up some hype. Mori does it all the time.
>>37220566My rrat (like >>37216347) is that omegalul wanted males but nips told him to get a vsinger, and so he found a good candidate and gave her the absolute worst handling while waiting for the greenlight to his homos.
>>37220628It would cut into her Capcom gaming streams
>>37220140She talked a out Till the End of Me multiple times for over a month prior to its release, talking about the lyrics and themes. The only thing stopping her from discussing her music is her own motivation.
>>37220560IRyS have been pushing for an update since pretty much day 1. The model is just so jarring compared to everything else in Hololive, and it's also a mess to get into 3D, which is just even more retarded seeing she is supposedly hired as a Vsinger.
>>37220518She just wants a new one. Iirc she didn't like the devil side of her lore.
>floprys timeloop againWho cares, she gets shit numbers. Stop talking about midgets and talk about JP.
>>37219799Anon, JP caters to even lower standard compare to other places Why do you think they don't fuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hEvgKL0ClAYagoo needs to get her. She can speak Japanese too.
>>37220724The 3D wouldn't have been an issue for any competent modeler
>>37220518It's hard to get into it without shitting on the current design or bringing up her roommate's personal taste so reddit just invented their own logic
>>37220000
GOLD SHUBA!
>>37220422>IRyS music belong to Cover, she don't get to decide what they do with it alonerSo? Why are they releasing her music completely randomly and not during big events or not at least something make an announcement stream or like the other Holos? Why can't they just, you know, copy the other people in your very own agency? What compels to managers to be like this? Brain damage?
>>37220803Chinigami...
>>37220737Devil is just a nice way of saying brown skin. Look at Evil Ryu or other Japanese villains
>>37220632When will upper management step in to stop the mismanagement of HoloEN?
>>37220422It's the manager's job to communicate between the upper management and the talent. If information is not passing, then someone is failing at their job.
En3homies ww@
>>37220874Announced at HoloFes like ID3
>>37220838looking at the rest of the branch, brain damage is the benign interpretation.
>>37218932>Ina is Kakashithe first one to die...
>>37220838Incompetent management, feels like they have a deadline and once they finish the work they want to wipe their hands clean and move onto the next one.
>>37220737Like the other anon said that's just a nice way of her saying she doesn't like the "tall, dark, and goblin" side of her designsIt's also why she says her new design will be more "seiso." She want's to be a kawaii idoru
>>37220910But Kakashi didn’t die?
>>37220838Nothing. Like literally nothing. They just don't care as long as it meets the target quota and they got paid
>>37220943I swear she said her size wasn't changing
>>37220599Master class in how not to do it.
>>37218932I fucking hate shoneniggerdry so much
>>37220979he was revived after naruto won with speech no jutsu
>>37220994She said can't change the overall height but we have no idea how much Irys pushed for. She could be the same height but way skinnierAll she mentioned was the heightWe know how Irys wants to be seen it's just a matter of what she was able to get out of management and redjuice
>>37220874Here!
>>37221070Also her horns are removable in her redesign
>>37220929Blame the management all you want. But cover is still at fault for hiring shitty managers. Like how hard is it to get at least some decent managers that cares a little bit about the girls. They manage to do it in a third world country for id so why not en
>>37221070Well she also said she'll basically look the same and her merch won't be obsolete
sexo is currently taking the lead
>haachama is doing a 5 hour micra stream todayplease...why just minecraft
what if the irys redesign it's literally the same but white and no nose
可愛い
When was the last time the chicken won cripple gold?
>>37221103>how hard is it to get decent managersplease, do tell how to get decent managers for a niche that was born very recently and most managers won't have experience in it.
>>37220737But being part succubus fits her to a stupid degree
>>37221205a hairstyle that gives her those sorts of bangs would be unironically cool
>>37221187
>8k EN goldCAN WE GET MUCH LOWERR??
>>37221236hire from the audience?
>>37221229HoloCure? Maybe PomuTori
>>37221171I CAN SEE IT, IT'S SLIPPING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>37220341>dabbing on her dead bodyholykekhttps://twitter.com/suzuna_n_RIOT/status/1592864005147996161
>>37221121After zoomer pizza dad I'm just gonna wait till I see it.
>>37221229Cripple gold winner streamed waaay back at EU timeslot. NA status is GRIM
>>37220820
>>37219813>These commentsJesas I fucking hate how everyone is so quick to defend cover "B-But the holloween see they do CARE!!!" These people get 20 events where the girls go "fine I'll do it myself" VS one cover idea and use it as a cope shield for months
>>37221309The thing about Aruran is that he actually wanted to look like shit for some odd reason
>>37220753>>37220753Them not fucking is a good thing to me anon. To me their standard should be the gold standard.who cares what effects that has on society, that won't effect anyone alive today
>>37221299>>37220341>>37219487wait a minute…Didn't VSPO run riot music?
>>37221229last holotalk got 19k, right? So maybe that
>>37219813someone should really ask where the fuck is EN hologra
>>37221280>hire from the audiencenever mind, shouldn't have asked in the first place. that's on me
>>37219582IRyS would be better off without the vsinger label and financing her own music as a regular Hololive member.
>>37221344a cover idea that they did completely last minute, roped in one of their talents to write everything, and wanted to use le default face.png to shill it until the girls told them that was retarded.
>>37221236They don't need to be experienced, they just need to have the bare minimum of being smart and with enough social skills to advance the career of people with no social skills. Which, to be fair is probably a big ask if they all need to be fluent in Japanese as well.
>>37219813A KFP. Is this Kiara's alt account? KEK
>>37221358Anon, them NOT fucking is the reason why they have to import SEA ,Westerner and China to run their dying economy
>>37221380Please understand, the can only release a half assed manga series once per two years or the poor planners? or whoever the fuck has control over that will get tired
>>37220874Since Alice left I don't care anymore
>>37219582I'm convinced there's someone in upper management that wants to sabotage HoloEN as much as fucking possible. Between the complete fucking mishandling of IRyS, the lack of anything on the HoloEN channels, and the complete mishandling of HoloweEN to the point where the last fucking episode came out 2 days after Halloween becasue it was such a shitshow of a rush job, the fact that they were ACTUALLY going to go LE DEFAULT POSE on the fucking merch because they just don't give a shit, it's hard not to think otherwise. And, no, I'm not taking my meds.
>>37221490>I'm convinced there's someone in upper management that wants to sabotage HoloEN as much as fucking possible.JP?
>>37221490>upper management You surely mean mean "EN management". I doubt JP management cares either way, nips usually just put some local in charge of their foreign subsidiaries and let them sink or swim
>>37221490Someone incompetent got promoted after meme shark went viral, and they've been fucking up ever since.
>>37221458Didn't kson at first applied for manager instead of idol? what a lost chance to get a competent staff
>>37221236Move heaven and earth to keep Shinove
>>37221490>And, no, I'm not taking my meds.that's what everyone says.
>>37221380EN has to ask and script it, homos and JP bothered to do that much
Hey /#/... how many of your chuubas are confirmed to be diagnosed with mental illness and/or depression. Discuss the reason of their depression and how it initially started and its effects on you, the fan.
>>37221490>all these voice inside my head must be true
>>37221468>5 flairs>"KFP!!!"rent free
>>37221490What's that saying? Don't attribute to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence?
>>37221563blame haachama
>>37221344These people don’t watch streams, they just watch clips. If any of them watched streams they’d know how much the talents complain about the lack of support they get.
>>37221607Since I realized that Sora is insane in bunch of different ways I decided that sanity is overrated and decided to emulate herMy life is now way more pleasant! Negativity really is overrated
>>37221371No they have the same parent company in Brave Group
>>37221563>kson >competent
>>37221607>Vtubers with mental illness and/or depression.All Vtubers without exception
>>37221674They complain once in a while and then it gets repeated here ad nauseum
>>37221667That works if it's a singular personThere's an entire fucking company and not one of those fucks thinks "hey, we're being fucking retarded in how we handle this"?
>>37219582Most JP songs release without MVs too it's only when the Holo really cares enough to have a MV ready right on release.
>>37221701Life needs some spice, a dash of insanity to certain things is good
>>37221674then get on a video editor and start making a compilation of complaints because cover only listens to these people for some god awful reason
>>37221607>Discuss the reason of their depressionWomen need babbies when they hit their 25 anniversary. When they have no babbies they go cray cray
>>37221808I want to be Fauna's baby...
>>37220362this made me realise the difference between the regular vtubers and vsingers in covervsingers are hololive vocalist hires for their own music projects, who are allowed to stream under hololive as a bonusvtubers are who they hire to just be regular streamers with the cover specific addendum of also participating in the idol promotional events
>>37221399She's lazy and knows nothing about making music other than providing vocals
Niji management might be malicious but EN management is malicious AND incompetent
>>37221399She can produce her own music, Her identity cover was her own project. She's just pretty lazy about it.
>>37221940She's buttbuddy with AZKi, that alone is enough.
another day of ENfags complaining that Hololive English gets treated like they're Hololive English instead of the main branch.
>>37221925And we know that vsingers just don't work.See Azki, IRyS, or even Suisei before she transferred to hololive.
>>37222049There's just no way to make AZKi and IRyS work. It's not necessarily about the vsinger label
>>37222049>See Azkimy wife just got new model and 60k 3D livehappy
you love to see sharts complaining about the company that gave their whores their livelihood, every single one of you sidebranch niggers should be grateful for what they have lest they end up in niji
>>37222049AZKi had a design debuff. And she did work. She had many gigs besides streaming, and even there she had a radio show.
>>37222049true, but streaming is purely out of their own volition, so any assistance with that will always be secondary to assisting the hired streamers, since it's basically more like a hobby in their case, rather than what they're contracted for.
>>37221990>She's just pretty lazy about it.Seems like she doesn't have much time with all the garbage songs Cover makes her sing.
>>37222049Right. Alright, let's open up vsinger auditions for ID.
>>37222049>And we know that vsingers just don't work.Didn't AZKi just make like 150k dollarydoos from merch.
If the EN girls want to get good numbers, why don't they just make an off coillab arc like JP are doing right now?Easy 50k, why don't they just drop into each other's house and get some numbers?Are they dumb? Lazy?
>>37222134She has time to stream more than half of EN and watch animes with 75 episodes
>>37222016>>37222123What made you think you’d get more yous the second time?
irys can't even be bothered to do the bare minimum, so why should her managers?
>>37222165retard
>>37222155Anyone under the Hololive JP or EN name can do that
>>37222165
>>37222172>only one person hates the shartsand many other delusions faggots force themselves to believe
>>37222165I'm pretty sure kromei did that, they didn't break 15K
>>37216553>jwu>see thisfucking grim, how did no one catch this before when I know half of you are reading Vox's tweets?
>>37222211You type the exact same way every time
>>37222165>50kFUCKING KEK, MY SIDES
Reminder most nijiEN girls would have 3x viewers with a simple brand change to a blue dorito lmaoo
>Aqua just confirmed that Ina and Gura will be in Japan in DecemberGura was known but she didn’t specify a month, Ina was speculation as well.
>>37222165Last time they fucking did an off collab arc the stream output was at an all time fucking low because they all have to travel and can't bring their goddamn computers with them.
>>37222250(you)
>>37222129 (me)also it's fairly obvious at this point that irys wishes she was contracted as a streamer instead of vsinger, despite not having a problem with the singing aspect of the contract.
>>37222251Nobody has an Aqua membership in this thread non, no need to larp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>53,405: Subaru (Hololive)>48,536: Koyori (Hololive)>33,356: Iroha (Hololive)>28,142: Pekora (Hololive)>24,140: Lize (Nijisanji)>21,630: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>21,559: Ayame (Hololive)>17,503: Lamy (Hololive)>17,373: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>14,052: Salome (Nijisanji)>12,949: Hayato (Nijisanji)>12,118: Salome (Nijisanji)>11,021: NeruMero (Indie)>10,846: Okayu (Hololive)>10,471: Watame (Hololive)>10,458: Flare (Hololive)>10,343: Ema (VSPO)A very stacked day for a day with no debuts, anniversaries or birthdays
>>37222168She watch at 2x speed yea she don't have time.
>>37222251Also no Aqua 3D birthday live gold, the live will be next year
>>37222261This is why I dread HoloEN off-collabs now. There aren't enough people in HoloEN to accommodate that shit.
>>37222261Let's not pretend like that's not easily fixable
>>37222251rorurumao evenas if aqua would fucking care
>>37222251she didn't say anything about them
>>37222291Literally noone gives a fuck how are you labeled, just look at gamers.
>>37222134She had two studio recording days between June 30th and the middle of October
>>37222316How? They do a stream a day and that's still A STREAM A DAY. One. ONE.
Man this is a boring day and too much negativity, im just gonna watch kaela.
>>37222331but it's not just a label, it's literally what they are hired to do and what kind of support they will receive based on that. That's the actual distinction.
>>37222327Aqua wants to hang out with Ina and Gura
>>37222386who?
>>37222316EN as a whole is beyond fixing.
>>37222226That was because it was:>a guerilla announced 15 minutes in advance>overlapping a mori announcement stream and a gura stream>over in 30 minutes when the numbers were still going up because kronii had to leave early (and apparently they didn't start earlier because they didn't want to completely overlap mori and didn't know she was announcing)When NijiEN does offcollabs they'll give it a free time slot, wish HoloEN could do the same
>>37222251Which Rosemi stream?
If distance is a problem for HoloEN why don't they just catch the high speed train?Choco mentioned mkaing a cross country travel just to eat some specialty food, what's preventing the EN girls from doing so to off collab?!I say they just don't like numbers and are likely too lazy
>>37222399>That's the actual distinctionWrong. EN management vs JP management. That's the actual distinction.
>>37222300>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Lamy, Suisei1x: Flare, Kuzuha, Marine, Miko, Mio, Subaru, Yashiro>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY209x: Hololive98x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER50x: Pekora21x: Miko18x: Kuzuha17x: Aqua16x: Salome14x: Nijisanji, Subaru10x: Marine7x: Suisei6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura4x: Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Koyori, Mayuzumi, Mel2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta
>>37222400the joke becomes more stale the more you use it anon
>>37222268At least you know its true
>>37222442Let's not forget Pekora that went to Osaka just for Gil merch.
>>37222445AZKi...
>>37222419COPE
>>37222419Mori scheduled a week in advance how the fuck could they not know?
>>37222419>all this copewhatever makes you sleep at night
>>37222251only actual relevant news from aqua's membership is that she has to delay her anniversary live that was supposed to be on dec 1st to sometime next year. she's still gonna have a stream on her anniversary though
>>37222208That's not even an entirely accurate comparison. Pretty much all the JPs are in the Greater Tokyo Area, which is barely bigger than the state of Massachusetts.
>>37222442They could easily take a plane and stay there for ~5 days and plan a few collab streams
>>37222450>2022 SILVERS>PER COMPANY201x: Hololive103x: Nijisanji6x: VSPO5x: Indie4x: Neo Porte1x: PRISM Project>PER STREAMER49x: Pekora28x: Kuzuha, Miko19x: Marine14x: Subaru11x: Salome, Suisei10x: Gura, Nijisanji7x: Hololive6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya5x: Fubuki4x: Koyori, Lize3x: Aqua, Flare, Hal, Lui2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui
>>37222510*didn't know what she was announcingmissed a word
>>37222486Yous aren't going to improve your life
>>37222442I don't think you understand the difference of "cross country" in japan and "cross country" in USA alone, if you're not including europe and australia
>>37222505>>37222512SEETHE
>>37222530And half the ENs aren't even in the US
>>37222536>2022 BRONZES>PER COMPANY208x: Hololive96x: Nijisanji5x: Indie, Neo Porte2x: Noripro1x: 774 Inc., Holostars, VSPO>PER STREAMER33x: Subaru32x: Miko, Pekora25x: Kuzuha16x: Marine12x: Salome10x: Gura9x: Nijisanji7x: Toya6x: Koyori5x: Okayu4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Hal, Korone, Lamy, Mori, Suisei3x: Amelia, Choco, Fubuki, Hayato, Iroha, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction
>>37222400Umisea loveNow if only they stopped pushing out experimental music shit
>>37222419>wish HoloEN could do the same>thinking that Gura would give a shit about her branchmatesrumao
>>37222442because whether you like it or not, they treat this as a part time job, barring kiara. why would they sacrifice their personal time to do something for their fans.
Holo blondes getting some merch lovehttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1592804669910224896https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_3minute_voice_for_instantmoodlesSome 3 min voice recording for while you wait your instant noddles to be microwaved!
OH LOOK!
>>37222578>take a plane to travel for 6 hours somewhere in USA>take a train to travel for 6 hours somewhere in Japandifference much?
>>37222628Also why EN aren't idols.
>>37222165Yes, they are terrible streamers, management is completely shit too of course but as Kiara said they can't do anything about that so they should focus on improving themselves but like their fans they rather blame management for everything going wrong instead of questioning their own missteps.
>>37222628This is not even true
>>37222659>Holo blondesmel...aki....ame....japanese ame......
>>37222693Ogey
>>37222706Management hands wrote this
>>37222693will she collab with kalson forma dragon?
>>37222442USA has shit infrastructure so they would need to take a plane instead which makes any trip take 2-3 daysOf course since merrika is big they could just get starlink or some shit and do country trip while streaming or even just a vlog but that's beyond any of them outside of Kiara
>>37222724I'm pretty sure aki has one too, there are like 13 voices
What's with all the doomposting today? I checked the tally and it's a Holosweep on both ends. Did something else happen?
>>37222628>why would they sacrifice their personal time to do something for their fans.The real reason is just that they don't like each other all that much. Mori went to the US and offered to visit any of the NA girl for an offcollab, they just had to accept and Mori would take care of everything, and they all shut her off. Meanwhile Mori and Kiara had an offcollab in Austria, Kiara went to the US and managed to get every Myth together for the first time, and she went to the maldives just to hang out with Reine. Krofaumei did one offcollab on the fly and Kromei also did another one. The issue with the NA offcollab is clearly centered around Gura/Ame/Ina.
>>37221380they need to do 3d debut first
>>37222791HoloX getting their idol outfits while EN/ID still don't get shit so it's throwing people in a tizzy
>>37222791Sisters falseflagging, dw about it
>>37222659Not even blondes, there's 19 of them including AZKi3 bucks or so for individual voice pack
>>37222659its amazing how Hololive went from having almost no sponsors to getting tons of them
Did Selen incline any off holoid/stars collabd
>>37222791you do realize that there are some anons who are biased to their oshis and would rather see them win than to cope with the whole "a-a hololive win at the end of the day...haha..."
>>37222870No
>>37222870no
>>37222741That's it, you are getting StarsEN 2 before HoloEN3, fuck you.
>>37222870she reclined to sub 2k and gave Grimbros a big fat W
>>37222703Holo en are treated like trash most of the time compared to fucking jp at this point. Jp at this point has>Multiple massive 3D lives>Swimsuits>3D kimonos>Motion manga>Tons of merch>New costumes>Holo x are getting new hairstyles> Holo x are getting idol outfits> Holo x got a manga in shonen jump>Holo x 3D modelsMeanwhile holo en>Lamps>Gacha collab> A late motion manga with merch that en had to convince to not use the default art.
You guys remember that one offcollab that Ame organized where Ina and Fauna were prepared for ton of streams but for some reason they didn't do many?
>>37222868They are a) popular and b) safe. All the annoying restrictions they are under make them very palatable to mainstream advertisers, at least in Japan. Even if some yab happens like say Rushia self immolating, you can swap in another heavy hitter to keep sponsors happy.
>>37222870lol
>>37222827>HoloX getting shilled againOh I see, not really a surprise though>>37222882>you do realize that there are some anons who are biased to their oshis and would rather see them winOkay, but win what? All I see is people throwing shit at the EN girls, but what are they going to win?
>[en] Aqua: Oh right, they will be visiting here next month...>[en] Aqua: Well I'm the type who's not so outgoing, but I would like to meet Gura and Inanis if possible>[en] Aqua: Maybe if I go with others I can do it yeah!Gura November rrat status = DEAD
>>37222982Cmon now Aqua even Pekora can do it
>>37222946Streaming is work for the girls. They'll take any excuse not to do it. Well except Kiara. She was on a lesbian vacation with a rich friend in the Maldives and still found time to stream some cute anime girls doing cute things.
>>37222982source?
akihaatomatsurishiomchocoazkimiookayupekoraflarenoelkanatawatametowalamypolkaluikoyowhorechloethese are the ones with the voices
>>37222941act like trash, you get rewarded with trash. most of the branch can't even fucking stream and the ones that do always are at odds with their fans. EN is literally either lazy or bitches, both undeserving of anything. They clearly let the hype Myth brought in go to their heads and became too complacent.
>[en] Aqua: Towa is a whorebros?
>>37222941Because JP beings money, Holo EN quite literally has no designated shill member.
>>37223024Rosemi's T3 mengen
>>37223040Voices in what?
>>37222899>>37222909>>372229143rd times the charm i guess then again its debuffson and reclinemei
>>37223024He copy pasted it from global.
>>37222957>Okay, but win what? All I see is people throwing shit at the EN girls, but what are they going to win?something...anything, they want to see their en oshis in their idol outfits, with other outfits, with support, with proper shilling...it's not all just numbers and you know that
>>37223074my head
>>37223024Actually Aqua mengen. Also, Gura might be planning on going earlier than December, but we won't know for sure until she's over there.
>>37223063>>37222941Also>wait, what do you mean I have to shill shit? I'M A POWERFUL WOM-STREAMER, I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS SHIT
>14-2>entire thread is jp vs en shitpostinghmmmmmmm
>[en] Aqua: Suichan is creepy, she groped my boobs just the other day
>>37223024mengen
>>37223074the cupmen 3 minutes thing
somehow mori failed to reach 5k on a drawing stream
>>37223141>drawing Hope
>>37223111Bro its been en vs jp since nijisanji jp and en both have been non threats after august
>>37222982at least have an image instead of faking text.
>>37223141>somehowNatural recline
>>37223112Man this shit make me appreciate Kiara more as she doesn’t shy away from shilling. That’s how she got those game dev connection
aqua is literally just making sounds in her mengen, she's not even talking
>>37223141>somehow mori failed to reach 5k on a drawing streamI think she's starting to realize she isn't as bulletproof as the thought she was.
>>37223141Is drawing supposed to be a buff? It's literally the opposite
>>37223195Depends on the subject
>>37223172so it's a shitpost from global?
>>37223040Angry midget. KEK.
>>37223209It’s finishing a drawing of IRyS from like a year ago.
>>37223180that's japanese, anon
>>37223214yep, i've searched the whole TL log and not once did she mention gura or ina. only members she mentioned are people who play aquarium
I hope PekoLamy happen more, I have never heard Pekora laughing so much before, she fucking love messing with Lamy
>>37223141How unfortunate
Why are you surpised that Mori(who is reclining) drawing floprys(who is a nobody) got shit numbers?
>>37223255Cover needs to hire more Lamys.
>>37223141EN drawing streams aren't a buff for anyone except Ina, who is dead
>>37223289I didn't know how bad Mori had been reclining
>[en] Aqua: Lol BOOP! >[en] Aqua: *sucks teeth* >[en] Aqua: THERE IT IS!>[en] Aqua: *lip pop*>[en] Aqua: wild!!!
>>37223093>it's not all just numbersWrong thread manYou just have to accept that this is the anti threadNo, not against any specific body, but everybody This thread has no attachment to the people behind the avatar, just the number they show on screen
>>37223296>EN drawing streams aren't a buff for anyone except Ina, who is deadThey were a buff for Mumei before she crippled herself by avoiding anything that could possibly be interpreted as offensive.
I don't think the recline in the EN scene is general. Sure, holo and Niji are in the gutter but you also have people like Pippa who are inclining like crazy. It's something to do with the new YT algorithm/new UI.
>>37223296>>37223195mori intentionally put Irys' name in the title/thumbnail to try and drag a bigger audience
>>37218186Proof?
>>37223093Real talk. I am fucking tired of ENfag complaining, they do this every time JP get something good and does not realize that spamming about it here is like screaming into the voidIf they want changes, go pressure the girls about it, tell them to fight for rights. It would be a lot more effective than timelooping on /vt/
>>37223365Seems counterproductive
>>37223343HoloEN is reclining because the magic is gone and everyone is lazy or shit. NijiEN was always in the gutter.
>>37223365>>37223406don't forget Irys is on a break, her viewers are up for grabs, and Mori still underperformed miserably
>>37223343The only people who are growing in the EN scene on YouTube are shorts spammers. Pippa is included in this list but she also has the drama buff.
>>37223296Mori has gotten significantly higher numbers on drawing streams before, might just be a sign of decline generally. Mumei's drawing streams have also cratered recently.
>>37223365???
>>37223401real talk, not your echo chamberif you don't want to hear or read things how they REALLY are you're more than free to fuck off and never come back
>>37223442so it wasn't in the title, still clearly on the thumbnail. Calm down cuckbeat.
>>37223450Well they can keep doing thatI am not really mad, just pity EN and their fan. But what can we do? We can’t control Cover, not even the girls can
Enna is so cute
Do the HoloEN girls actually complain or talk at all about not getting all these weird things or are fans just projecting what they want onto them?
>>37223488>IRyS name CLEARLY on the thumbnail>it says "Hope"SEAbro you are getting embarassing
>>37223421What viewers?
>>37223488>Blatantly lie>Get proven wrong>cry
how have vod views been? feels like they've gone down since a couple of months ago
>>37223536>>37223544>>37223551hang yourselves, cuckbeats
>>37223526if what the fans want and what the chuuba want aren't the same, then that chuuba is a massive fucking failure and should unironically graduateimagine calling out the fans for wanting their oshi ti have a new outfit or a live 3D kek, and then the chuuba saying "no I don't want to because I don't want to"
>>37223063>Holo EN quite literally has no designated shill member.Kiara? She literally shilled so hard Bandai has her as a listed channel.
>>37223593Whoa that’s a lot of aggression there buddy. No need to be so upset everybody makes mistakes. No one is mad at you for never learning to read.
>>37223551>>37223631"I love Irys but I didn't know she was called Hope"ok cuckbeats
>>37223645>I love IRySsaid literally no one ever KEK
>>37223295That's not a problem, they just naturally /BECOME/
>>37223063HoloEN viewers are too big of a brand risk
>>37223526i don't think IRyS can go a single stream without complaining. Fauna does this thing where she vents positively. Like,>Oh it would be so nice to do my 3D debut and sing on stage. I can't wait for that. Hope it happens soon...>Oh also I'm wearing my NYE outfit today cause it's the only other alt outfit I can wear.
Wait is HoloX anniversary a 3D debut? For idol outfits I meanDamn they will get to take over prime time for a whole week, such privilege
>>37223526They’re professionals so no they don’t start bitching out their company midstream and bring down the mood.
>>37223690Complaining is good for SCs
>>37223526Fauna told people to like the Holoween stuff so management would give resources to the girls to do more of that stuff for the main channel. It's also obvious they all want outfits other than the New year stuff.
>>37223504Her voice is as majestic as a bald eagle's calling, truly splendid
I dreamed of visiting 2b2t with Pekora
https://twitter.com/animefestasia/status/1592834877962985479?s=20&t=HqRFtoT0xD3RLNo2TnRlwQYou told me there was a grand EN civil war and Mori and Gura hated each other.
>>37223749Shame they're on the Holo EN channel. They may as well be dead.
>>37223771There is and they do hate each other
>>37223771>couldn't get Gura to actually shill it with Mori
See 4Blood hit 500K. It has a pretty good shot at surpassing the original, Kira's version doesn't actually have that many views. Seems like this one has decent legs.
>>37217155Kiara just said that idol for her is primarily a singer performing on stage it's not much of a hot take really, traditional idols and "idol Vtubers" tend to be different in many ways especially after Vtubing became synonymous with streaming.>>37218628People say she get's parasocial with her audience but that involves pussy smashing ASMR so idk vshojo fags at least always claimed she is the closest to hololive in terms of content but I never bothered to watch her. I know some vshojos did some music (mostly nyanners since that's her thing) and Ironmouse does karaokes sometimes since she used to be an opera singer or something.
>>37223760anon... Pekora graduated 3 years ago. You need to let it go.
>>37223717She's similar to Kiara in so many ways
>>37223838>>37223854COPE
>>37223861Gonna pass the Mega collab on Axel's channel pretty soon at this rate.
So i gave a quick look to the sisters site and it seems like theres a full out war between the luxiem fujos and the shoto fujos could this be a reason for the decline of both?
>>37223958that's been happening for like 3 months at this point. Basically when Luxiem started reclining because the sisters bought into the whole "shoto stole Luxiem's viewers" theory
>>37223958All out war? Explain?I looked in the archives and I saw someone samefagging hard in /NijiEN/ sounds like one of the doxsite sisters
>>37223958You might say that it’s like there’s some kind of ALL OUT WAR
>>37223040keep crying loser
>>37224023Didn’t that happen when Shoto told people not to associate him with Luxiem
>>37223693It probably won't be exclusive slots.Only the very first 3d debut is exclusive.We still don't know the extent of the change in policy though
>>37224029>All out war? Explain?This is what like 75% of the comments on Shoto's doxx page look like going back to, like, late August
>>37223679>[en] Aqua: *slurrrrrrp*
Now I think about it what are the chances that part of sponsorship profits are funneled to branch management to use on doing projects and shit?It would explain how they barely do shit since they don't have any money thanks to how frequently EN accept sponsorships
>>37224084Everyone would still evacuate for 3D live anywayStrap in /#/ cause HoloX week will be a real overlap hell, especially with Shion and Ayame as well as Aqua back
>>37224174who came first - the egg or the chicken?
LOOK AT HER DEAD CORPSE, LOOK AT IT
>>37223247she did talk about gura but not about that
>>37224233Is this piano Hachi on the left?
>>37224233p.s. Girigiri Warukunai Watame is an animehttps://myanimelist.net/anime/51768/Girigiri_warukunai_Watame
Ah fuck no wonder Uncle Nowa sound familiar to me. It sound similar to Nuwa, primordial goddess of Chinese mythology
Can Kiara be saved??? from Putin's nukes
>>37216341>>37216397it's funny that she actualy mentioned how she wanted to collab with Ina in particular after that faggot khyo made a video about the "rumor" that she hates her (and koreans) really makes you wonder if JP management actually keeps up with this sort of shit.
>>37224305It's free content.
>>37224315I mean Niji have a whole department to deal with dramas and potential drama
>>37224233>parading a dead corpsetruly vile
>>37224315>really makes you wonder if JP management actually keeps up with this sort of shit.No it doesn't lol. There's no reason to think they don't keep up with this stuff. If Pekora can find about monkey posting I see no reason why management can't have a couple interns keep track of other shit going on.
Potential Suisei guerilla right now. Number?
why do people care if others doompost en or not? sounds like insecurity to me
>>37224473>Cats Organized NeatlyAround 13k
>>37224233just let her rest in peace plese..