/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3712500
Hololive reject? Hololive reject.

Dragon a best. A BEST.
https://twitter.com/kamamesigogo123/status/1393527396859478019

Does NijiEN has permission hell like holoEN does?
I mean they aren't j*panese, why should those idiotic copyright laws apply to them?

>>3712717

>>3712717
Overalls are peak cuteness

>>3712739
It's basically the same for every Nijisanji branch, they just chose not to allow monetization on games they have not the rights on, so just no superchat allowed and they can stream it

>>3712739
Noor (IN) and Hana (ID) could stream Atlus games, albeit without monetization, so there's no reason to think EN wont be allowed.

>>3712819
>queen
i'm smelling nigger

>>3712842
So no permission hell?
You are joking, right? Da fuck? Why doesn't Hololive do the same???

>>3712867
>Atlus games
I mean could they stream whatever they want?

>>3712894
Well Holo choose the path of "muh superchat" versus Niji choosing the path of "muh merch"

>>3712500
>NijiEN
>Idol group
I hate Japan.

I can't wait for a couple of days after their debut only so that they can start streaming and there can actually be on-topic discussion here

>debut time: we hate the european audience
Dropped, doxxed, submitted fraudulent reports to Youtube, and will spread rrats against.

>>3713061
Stop crying faggot, I already set my alarm up.

Predictions on what the official yuri ship of this group is going to be?
I'm thinking the fish and the fairy

>>3712951
Elaborate.

>>3712928
Don't think so. It's all really dependent on a lot of factors. Some companies will say in their rules it's fine to play for people attached to companies as long as they don't monetize it. In that case if you want superchat you're going to need to get a special agreement or you can just play it with it turned off without one. Some other game companies have their rules so that anyone attached to a company can't play their games even with monetization off. In those cases you'll always need "permissions" even to play without superchat.

>>3713123
Don't think there would be any. They don't have to make it inside their batch if at all.

>>3713061
wagie-kun...

>>3713061
It's not THAT terrible of a time, especially considering that debutes will be on sunday.
I hope that at least one of them will focus on EU timezone.

>>3713148
It's 4-5am for EU, how is that not an absolute retarded time for them?

>>3713061
Just wake up early bro

>>3713128
>English speaking Nijis
>Supposed to attract the Eigo audience
>Instead, have them in a group that largely caters to Nip autism
I don't mind idorus, but when you try to apply that Nip-centric subculture to a group that's supposed to attract a demographic that barely relates to said subculture, then I don't see how that's gonna go well.

>>3713061
that's what you get for being a wagecuck.

>>3713212
But it works. HoloEN's audience is full of western idolfags.

>>3713182
most people don't work at 4am, you can wake up early and watch it live. 10am-noon would be the shittiest time for most people I know

>>3713128
3-baka is not an idol unit

>>3713123
If it's within their wave then it's definitely between dragon and fairy as they were close beforehand.

>>3713266
>HoloEN's audience is full of western idolfags.
Unless you're referring to this place, then I doubt HoloEN's fanbase can be considered strictly "idolfags".

>>3713028
They will stream non stop after the debut to ride on the hype train

>>3713280
If making music together and being a group of girls is enough to be considered idols then they fit the bill. Which is obviously retarded.

>>3713298
>western idolfags.
It is basically twitch simps

I'm not smart enough to make bots,but i do have plenty of device lying around to spam the stream with hololive reject,wish me luck guys

>>3713279
I'm not gonna wake up in the middle of the night to watch short debuts for girls I might not even like and are not going to be indicative of their actual personalities

>>3713212
EOPs very much like anime girls playing videogames, making silly cute sounds, singing songs, doing zatsudan and collabing within tight-knit groups. You could argue that Hololive already took over the niche but saying that it's not pandering to Westerners is weird. That's the one vtuber formula that got popular overseas so far. They can always diversify the roster later.

>>3713280
Neither is LazuLight if you want to be autistic about definitions.

>debut at 5am
Ebin

>>3713419
Just move out of your dystopian shithole to the glorious AMERICA kek

>>3713376
I am.

https://youtu.be/ZQ0U6oJBSmY
Idols

>I'm not smart enough to make bots,but i do have plenty of device lying around to spam the stream with hololive reject,wish me luck guys

>>3712500
>Debuts at 10:00 - 11:00 am
Niceeeeeeeeee~

kek, wojakfag runs a bot or something

>>3713495
https://youtu.be/vrt6ExjqepM

I honestly don't get the appeal of idols.
Why can't they just stream as they wish without pretending to be a beacon of the purest purity?

Europoor here. I will watch it if a randomly wake up in the middle of the night since i have erratic sleep patterns. And honestly I'm more interested in reading this board funposting live than anything else. I'll just watch the vod later in the morning at worst.

>>3713537
Did he post pizza here too?

Why are people assuming them to be idols?
I'll just wait and see.

>>3713682
Because then they would not be idols, anyways, they know what they signed for

>>3713723
>Idol-ish group name
>Official group MV right off the bat
I'm not surprised why people see them as such.

>>3713754
But Kiara's an idol...

Only 25 minutes for each debut huh.

>>3713787
Sounds more like something from a fantasy anime or jrpg to me than any idol group name I've heard.

>>3713879
We literally had an idol anime with almost the same name as their group name that aired almost a year ago.

>>3713376
Understandable. It's morning to noon for SEAfags and night but not too late for Amerifats so that seems to be the best timeslot for most people.

>>3713935
Could you be more specific?

>>3714010
RabuRaibu
RazuRaito

>>3714010

>>3714032
You have to be trolling.

>>3713682
Because you can find that sloppy shit pasted all over twitch. What makes companies like Nijisanji and Hololive unique is that their talents are encouraged to at least maintain a pretense of a professional and sanitary brand. It doesn't limit them from being vulgar (Coco's pube shaving streams), lewd (the multitude of ASMR or bath twitcasting) or outright shitposty (Tsukino Mito's kigu stuff) so it's not limiting in any way that should trigger your weird little autism. It just helps provide structure and standards that help talents rise above the trash you can find on twitch or chaturbate, which especially helps when your talents are irony-poisoned 20-something doomers that would otherwise build their entire public image around spongebob memes and body humour because they have no social skills.

>>3714112
But you can do all of that WITHOUT selling yourself as an idol.

>>3714055
It does have a fantasy setting doesn't it? That's exactly what I mean when I said it sounds like something from a jrpg or fantasy anime. As opposed to the kinds of names actual idol groups have.

>>3712500
I want to rape that mermaid dragon and if nijiniggers come around lurking I hope she or her mates reads/sees this. You here me ryugu? I want to rape you. I want to kidnap her and rape her for several weeks on end, force feeding her the eggs she lays so it's barely enough for her to live on. I will allow some eggs to pass and grow, become merdegenerates while I continue raping her. When a year, 4 months, 2 weeks, 5 hours, and 15 minutes pass from continuous rape and force feeding her eggs, I will drag her will broken body to the desert somewhere in the middle of fucking nowhere USA to dry out into a raisin. Then I will buy a boat and tie her sun dried corpse to the front for all to gaze at her face that's been frozen in mix of pleasure, pain, and hopelessness.

>>3712500
Hope she'll lowkey reference Monmusu and be the resident cuckquean.

The fish is at 20k.

>>3712739
nijisanji have way more connections than hololive & they havent pissed off cn (yet). so they can still play games like genshin impact. also, theyre not restricted by idol stuffs

>>3713136
Well at least it's somewhat better than what holoEN has...

I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL HERE
I am so fucking tired of Cover's bullshit. For me Gura's butchered new model was the last straw. Those faggots need to have some proper competition.
Hell, HoloMyth has Kiara and Ina in EU timeslot, which is literally worse than nothing, it's like an elaborate insult. If at least one of NijiEN girls will stream at good EU time, I will be all over her.

Pomu is cuter than usual today!
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1393568739002667013

>>3714294
Dragon is in EDT timezone apparently

>>3714268
Nijis will never piss off CN since they let their branch (Virtuareal) do their own thing at Bilibili

>>3714317

>>3714268
>so they can still play games like genshin impact
Not just play but also get paid promotions from its devs

>>3714317
She doesn't look very smart

They make more money by acting like 'idol' though. And by idol I mean pandering to lonely men, keep the interaction with male as professional as possible or none at all, etc. You can pretend to be above that stuffs and don't even have membership like some Nijis but those people don't make that much money despite having high viewership.

>>3713376
Reasonable
That's why you don't belong here

>>3714362
That's the best part.

>>3714369
>And by idol I mean pandering to lonely men,
Anon... That's not an idol, that's an opportunist...

>>3714333
Nobody does it on purpose, anon. It's just not easy keeping China happy when they have a tendency to invent things to be upset about. Coco's grand slight was showing a youtube viewer metrics page that happened to list Taiwan as one of the places her viewers stream from. It's only a matter of time until Nijisanji does something even less offensive that somehow offends them even more, and with recent CCP laws against vtubing the smart thing is to just prepare for the worst and not put too many eggs in the chinese basket until the current political climate changes.

>>3714149
You could also do this by not joining an angency that doesn't impose idol or idol-like standards on its talent. But what the heel do I know about common sense?

>>3714294
Seething seanigger pretending to be euro.

>>3714481
Anon, a couple of Nijis already showed Taiwan.
Nothing happened.
I think it's more of a problem with the fanbase than simply from where you come from. From what I heard, CN is Hololive>Nijisanji when it comes to fanbases.

>>3714158
Those are the kinds of names idol groups have. It's part of the flare and theme. There's a large variety of them.

>>3714369
Anon, "idol" doesn't mean "no men allowed"
If you want succubi exploiting lonely men, you'll find that all over twitch. It's like 70% of their revenue at this point and there's nothing 'idol-like' about most of those women. Many of them even have public relationships they reference on stream. Their simps don't care. Clearly chasing the unicorns that have a fucking conniption fit if their oshi talks to a male isn't the optimal way to make money, and it's definitely not what companies like Hololive or Nijisanji are pandering to when they model their talents as idols.

>Seething seanigger pretending to be euro.

>>3714481
CN schizos had vendetta against Coco for a while, you have no idea what you're talking about

>still no Finana marshmallow
WHY?
I swear I won't ask about your fetishes...

What do you guys think the debuts are gonna be at viewer wise? I'm thinking that between 5k and 10k, obviously numberfags are gonna laugh at those numbers but they would be a lot better than every other niji international debut

>>3714584
>Anon, a couple of Nijis already showed Taiwan.
>Nothing happened.
Yes, ESLbro, that was the point. The chinese are fickle and mentally unwell. Their ire is utterly arbitrary. When they decide to blow up, it'll come out of nowhere and be caused by something utterly asinine, but they'll be completely inconsolable.

>>3714432
Indeed

So these threads are going to be infested with ESLs for a while, aren't they?

>>3714625
I will

>>3714641
>they'll be completely inconsolable.
But Coco's chink raiders already calmed down though.

So can we agree that maid mint deserves hell for backstabbing her indie career saying it was due to health and then joining a company?

>>3714432
To this day I still can't find this dounjin

>>3714625
Uh oh stinky!

>>3714636
I'm actually quite hopeful that JP viewers might push it up to ~30k. They'd probably just be there for the hype and not for the talent though.

>>3712894
I don’t know much about Hololive, but did they enable superchats when they didn’t have permissions at all? I guess that spooked them so hard that they don’t want to do it.
Maybe it’s up to the talent, I remember Fubuki playing Clock Tower 2 - Struggle Within, and Human Entertainment has long been defunct with the IP being in limbo.

>So can we agree that maid mint deserves hell for backstabbing her indie career saying it was due to health and then joining a company?

>>3714695
She announced graduation before she had her health test, do your reps

>>3714683
ESL here, by the kind of people I'm seeing here it must be the fabled ETL SEAtards

>>3714481
It's more like they were mad about Cover pandering to EN market more than them, the Taiwan shit is just an excuse

>Hololive doesn't have a Fish
>Hololive doesn't have a Fairy
But Hololive has a Dragon...
Character overlap gonna be a big problem to NijiDragon

>ESL here, by the kind of people I'm seeing here it must be the fabled ETL SEAtards

>>3714641
The Coco thing was an attempt at showing power, Hololive was always big into the Chinese market, they did exclusive bilibili streams and all the big clippers were zhangs, and then Coco debuted and they started getting more and more popular in the west and eventually EN debuted, and the chinks lost their status as the most important foreigners for Hololive. The Taiwan thing was just an excuse for them to get back at the vulgar American who caused that change, not because it actually offended them. Nijisanji doesn't have the status in China for anything like that to happen to them

>>3714761
>Hololive doesn't have a fish.
Gal Goomba...

>>3714761
One is a sun dragon and the other is a reddit dragon. I don't see the issue.

>>3714709
Yeah, I hope JPbros can help to trigger youtube algorithm into their favorite and make some noise here and there

>>3714761
dragon is old and rotten, sellout to r*ddit upboats and cringe memes, the chinese may have done a lot of damage on her but it was the company that neutered her

>>3712717
>overalls into shorts
>obviously nonfunctional "wings" protruding downward from ass
>accessories include Power Glove, Dokuro-chan's bat, and dollar store keychain
>another fucking "oversized coat that's falling off to reveal shoulders" episode
one of the worst designs I've seen not gonna lie

The CN scene is VR >> any other v agency btw

>So these threads are going to be infested with ESLs for a while, aren't they?
>When a couple of Europoor wojak posters were throwing a tantrum earlier

>>3714822
China has been trying to take over japan for years now so it isn't surprising they tried their hardest to weave into cover like every other company. Really wild when you see even artists sneak in ccp shit into pieces for the holos.

>>3714836
Sharks are not normal Fish

>>3714587
I really can't think of any relevant real idol groups with names like that.

>>3714719
Clock Tower is owned by Sunsoft

>>3714709
HoloEN had around 90k subs before debut and they had around 70k viewers on their debuts, so if anything, if they all are around 20k subs (SUSAN HATE) it would be around 15k (maybe less considering the competition).

>>3714860
oh, and I almost forgot
>having a cute animal sidekick instead of being the cute animal

>>So these threads are going to be infested with ESLs for a while, aren't they?
>>When a couple of Europoor wojak posters were throwing a tantrum earlier

>>3714870
>Britain = Europe
Burger education at its finest

>>3714594
>Many of them even have public relationships they reference on stream.
That's not true at all, vast majority of them avoid mentioning their relationships on stream. If you think that Holos would get the same amount of SC if the first thing they did after debut was publicly announce they had a bf you're delusional.

>>3714989
Oh right. I forgot that Britain is also technically a US protectorate. My bad.

>>3714909
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_idols#:~:text=List%20of%20Japanese%20idols.%201%20D%26D%20%28group%29%202,%28group%29%209%20DISH%2F%2F%20%28group%29%2010%20DIVA%20%28group%29%20

Knock yourself out, faggot.

I can imagine the reasoning over at Ichikara HQ went like this
>Hololive is super popular in the west
>Nijisanji is not as popular in the west
>Hololive is an idol company
>Nijisanji is not an idol company
>Let's make the EN branch an idol group then!

For reference, the lastest nijiJP girls have 20-30k subs before debut and 15-25k views in debut stream

>>3715100
Really have no idea what you're trying to show with this. Which are the relevant ones that sound like they belong in a fantasy anime setting?

https://research-platform.line.me/archives/36300584.html

>>3715100
knock my self out.

>>3712500
>3 girls
>not a single guy
Fuck this gay Earth.
I want my EN Yashiro...

>>3714749
ETL is a retarded thing to call someone. "second language" is a term used to denote the way language was obtained, and differentiate from "first language" - the one you absorbed as a kid, something you can't do after a certain age. If you absorbed 2 languages this way you'd be native in both and they both would be your first languages.
ESL only has negative connotations because of ESL teaching programs in english speaking countries, "popular" mostly among poor imigrants from what I understand.
"EOP" is just a holdover from /jp/, where english and nip are the only languages that matter. If you want something to call retards I'd say use this.

>>3715259
You should have prayed to someone about that like the lulufag did about no males.

>>3714584
That's not about just showing Taiwan, it's about referencing to it as a separate country.

>>3714636
They will get 50k live views avg, screencap this

>>3715213
It's kind of hilarious given the conversations about purity and all of that around idols to see TWICE so high on a japanese ranking of popular idols given the way they dance.

>>3715279
I hope he's touching himself in glee, cause it's really a damn shame.
Here I thought Nijisanji would pull off the usual formula they do, but nah, they gave us an "EN idol fantasy-themed" group instead!
Like, where have I heard of that before...? Sounds really... familiar...

>>3715204
They would have been around that number if it weren't for youtube.

>>3715204
I don't see how it's relevant. JP had JP branch viewers. Someone who usually watches Lize didn't need to subscribe to Hisui to check out her debut. NijiEN doesn't have that supply of people who are interested in corporate event but not necesserily care about LazuLight.

>>3715436
Does it?

>>3715504
Gibara...

I can envision the chatroom being filled with Niji purists and warring the "CAME FROM ADS OF HOLO STREAMS LOLOLOL" crowd. It'll be glorious.

>>3715259
They're already teasing the next batch, so I think we'll have a decent amount of members by the end of the year, and unless Tazumi completely lost his mind, there's bound to be a couple guys in there somewhere.
>>3715436
>I hope he's touching himself in glee
>>3617901

>>3715416
It seems to me kind of like idol as a term has become kind of like anime, where the japanese themselves will use the term anime for almost anything animated but foreigners have a special definition for it that they will argue over.

>>3715449
Nah, just to use it as a benmark of how it works out for them, of course the non-idol fans in Japanese have a different mindset compares to box-pushing mindset of idol fan

>>3715825
>3617901

>>3716083
Yeah, fuck him.

>>3715825
What the tease?

>>3715261
The negative connotation for ESL mostly comes from interactions here on 4chan, where people that often learned english from osmosis on the internet shit up conversations with their atrocious english reading comprehension. "ESL" isn't an insult anywhere on the internet outside of 4chan, but here for whatever reason people with obviously poor english skills are also always unreasonably arrogant and stubborn, convinced their english skills are much better than they actually are, and usually harbouring some backwards 3rd world cultural conventions that are utterly alien to people with clean drinking water. They wouldn't be such a problem if it was just poor english skills, but those poor english skills become a calling card for their unique brand of idiocy.

The entire conversation about 'idols' running through this thread is purely some weird 3rd worlders that don't particularly understand the concept but think they've figured it out from context and are trying to argue about what they think it means.

>>3715720
I don't imagine the chatrooms ever not being typical EN spam, especially if they continue to only lean to the same few jokes

>>3715204
They were all supposed to be at around that if youtube didn't remove 10k+ subs of the other two.

>>3715720
Looking at who is replying to their tweets I'd guess there's going to be a large amount of hololive fans. I've seen a number of comments from people saying they were curious about Nijisanji before so it's great they've got an English group now too and stuff like that.

>>3715720
Don't worry, it'll only be the usual "Can you say "ara ara"?" "Do you support trans rights?", "*insert name here*, my dog died LET'S G-", "POG" type of comments anyway.

>>3716162
>The entire conversation about 'idols' running through this thread is purely some weird 3rd worlders that don't particularly understand the concept but think they've figured it out from context and are trying to argue about what they think it means.
That just describes holofags in general. They think they know everything about vtubers just from watching holos and a tiny selection of "honorary" holos outside the company like Uto, Lulu, etc.

>>3716154
Look at the purplish blots on the buildings. There's three sprites which can't reasonably be anything but the next ENs.

>>3714432
No, anon.

>>3716169
Nah, there will be group of schizos on here who hate niji and they will try to falseflagging hard , maybe they will try to spam shitty meme and then pretend as niji toxic fans then police the chat and overrun it with argument to turn off potential fan

>>3716366
I... think you're thinking too hard on this...

>>3716162
I concur, use ESL at your own discretion. Just don't call them ETL or I'll go insane.

>>3714699
It's an edit of this:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/soga_no_tojiko_will_not_talk_chapter_of_harmony#13

I sent Pomu a feed and seed marshmallow, don't say I didn't warn everyone.

>>3714699
Here.
https://exhentai.org/g/622474/dd1f46a0b2/

>>3716366
Anon i don't see shits,maybe I'm too blind idk

>>3716514
>>3716529
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined, thank you faggots

Can I get a big sneed?

>>3716366
May be it's just their alt outfits in the MV

>>3715931
I mean, that's just the evolution of words and language

Take comics for example - printed pictures that tell a story: We use comics as a catch all, but to differentiate Japanese comics from Korean Comics, we use Manga and Manwha instead in the west, when Manga and Manwha just translate to Comics in Japan and Korean

We just call "Japanese Cartoons" Anime because it's easier and it naming as such makes sense in the Western World to differentiate it from American Cartoons

>>3716514
>Last chapter is 2014.
I want continuations but apparently Cis stop doing Touhou after being canceled for switching to Kancolle.

>>3716602
draw her having abortion

>>3716366
It's actually isekai and those are their real selves in the background.

>>3716584
>he doesn't like non-h.
Non-H 2hu is kino as fuck.

>>3716366
can't wait for the lohengramm debut

>>3716394
>>3716572
I didn't notice them at first either. Some other anons pointed them out and now I can't unsee them.
They're not full sprites. They're mostly just the torsos.
Here, for example, I see a Shiina-like schoolgirl in a cardigan. There's a ribbon on her neck and a bit off thigh sticking out from under her skirt in the bottom.

>IDOL THIS
>IDOL THAT
What the fuck are you talking about you stupid niggers?
WHO THE FUCK CARES?

Let's talk about something that is ACTUALLY important.
Will Finana have webbed toes like pic related?

>>3716805
>Very long sleeves that go beyond the hands

>>3716805
Some say they're possibly sneak previews of the next Gen of EN assuming this Gen is a success

My rrat senses tells me these are the girl's managers and Nijisanji is trying to cash into the "managers as characters" dynamic

>>3716897

>>3716683
Nah, somebody will post it outside of this shithole and I don't want normal people looking at abortion smut

Having the debut start on the main channel is still weird. Have they done something like that before?

>>3716928
>more managers than talents

>>3716897

>>3716897
Disgusting

>>3717018
The collab after their debuts is on the main channel. It's all in the OP.

>>3716928
your rrat is shit, it's probably their alt outfits
that jersey looks like something dragon would wear

How do things work at Nijisanji? Is there also a one month collab ban?

>>3717162
No.
There is a ban on singing VtL for newbies though :^)

We're probably going to see more hints of those silhouettes in the debut MV, seeing how it's called "Diamond City Lights"

>>3717225
I recall something happening like that. Weren't some nijifans pissed because a newbie sang that song?

>>3717162
Not really, not for KR or ID for sure. The latest JPs didn't collab with others for quite a while but it wasn't a full month. I really remember any restrictions other than legal ones like copyrights and such.

>>3717145
Wait that long sleeve. Could it be Min-I mean Pomu's outfit?

From what I've seen from Niji livers
>female that got shipped with male
Get a burst of popularity when the ship is still fresh and popular. Lose it all when the locusts 'fans' get bored and leave. They also lose some original fans that don't like the ship. Male usually don't lose as much.
>female that keep it professional or not interacting with male at all
Have stable viewership, usually get more superchat.
Imo, having male is fine but they should be treated like Holostars so people can support their oshis with no worries.

>>3717162
debutmate collab wasn't banned but they will probadly encorage them to build up their fanbase first

>>3717145
Nijisanji's condition for getting the first alt outfit is to break 50K subs. Even if they're getting special treatment in that regard, alt outfits seem like a weird thing to tease in the key visual meant to present the first members of NijiEN.
I still believe it's the next batch. Nijisanji likes quantity, so I really don't think we'll have just LazuLight for long.

>>3717294
You should also consider that they're EN, anon.
Doubt they'll attract the JP audience in any way.

>>3717371
Yeah 3 seems like a weirdly small number after all the fanfare for their new EN department. I'd believe they had 6 lined up for 2 back-to-back rollouts. Probably this one will be more idol-focused and the following group will have a different focus.

>>3717394
>Doubt they'll attract the JP audience in any way.
Then you haven't been paying attention to twitter.

>>3717419
>the following group will have a different focus.
NijiEN Gamers

>>3717459
I meant in the long run. Chuubas always get attention when nearing/during debut.

>>3717294
After Gibara stalker incident the company as a whole doesn't want such things anymore and so they keep mixing genders right at debut and force mixed collabs in big events. Even Lulu got to collab with males

>>3717255
Yep. Basically, shortly after debuting, Chigusa was stoked to sing it with others, and decided to solo cover it. Some hardcore fans got pissed because VtL is sacred to them, like a national anthem.
It was much smaller of a yab than it was made out to be, though. The outcry was from a tiny subset of brand fans, and the other Niji livers got together to make fun of them in support of Chigusa, record their own joke versions etc. The whole thing fizzled out fast.

>>3717570
Reminds me when marine fans were upset that Kiara started singing Ahoy so early

>>3717570
Sorry I'm retarded, VtL?

>>3715261
my bad that you brain couldn't process it so I'll explain for you
the english THIRD language was just to say that even a retard spic with shit ass self taught english is still better than the one you are insulting

>>3717653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPMWAj54Seg

I can't imagine being Pomu or Elira
>Spend years building your skills as a streamer
>Get through auditions competing against hundreds of other talented streamers
>Finally get your acceptance email
>Look forward to meeting your other genmates
>Find out you're now inexorably linked with Finana
>Finana "DORITES BRAP LMAO"
>You have to pretend like you're best friends with her in all of your streams
This is going to go so well, I can feel it.

>>3717570
Honestly I've always thought a large part of it was probably just antis and falseflaggers looking for something to get upset over. Nobody watching the stream gave a fuck, everybody was spamming rainbows, and the dislikes only started rolling in after.

>>3717132
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1393581944764440576?s=19
They say in this tweet the debut starts on the main channel.

>>3717689
It's Nijisanji they don't necessarily have to pretend to like each other all the time. If they don't like her in a few months when the new batches arrive you won't ever see them interacting. It has happened countless times.

>>3717692
I'm beginning to believe there's a group of people who are just want to start shit on both sides to watch the world burn

>>3717570
>the other Niji livers got together to make fun of them in support of Chigusa, record their own joke versions
holy based

>>3717692
Almost any time a yab happens, it starts off tiny but is amplified by a dedicated group of general vtuber antis. They're attracted to rrats and drama like flies to shit. The best thing anyone can do in such cases is to ignore the shitshow and continue to enjoy the content. The vtubers themselves know full well that life goes on and the anti campaigns will ultimately die down.

>>3712717
Why do so few people give a damn? Not even 1k likes...

>>3717692
Are you new to 炎上?

>>3717693
Guess I'm in the wrong. Would be interesting how it will go then.

>>3717738
Unfortunately...

>>3712951
There's this American vtuber group, Vshojo. That might be more your speed, I think.

>>3717761
It's barely noticeable. I only saw it because I was lurking the hashtag. Could probably go up to 2k+ if Elira retweeted it.

I'm still a little bummed they didn't go for the 1-2 male-female config. Those are some of the best units they've debuted. t, bluesfag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPM1xufNmSU

Nice

>>3717506
>Gamers
I fucking hope so, these three apparently aren't too big on games from what anons have been saying

>>3718189
For me, it's Meifu.

>>3718278
SMC for me

>>3718190
Oof numbers, i'm not even gonna watch the streams,too embarrassing,still gonna shitposting here tho

>>3718189
>>3718278
>>3718317
Somehow it's always the males who are the cutest in these groups, while also being the group's tard wrangler.

just listened to the full debut song it was pretty decent if some amateur bits, but that's pretty normal

>>3718317
>>3718335
https://twitter.com/torak_v/status/1393153458140708866
boy makes best girl

>>3718334
I'll just wait for suggestions from people here about which ones are the best.

>>3718278
Melissa has such a good singing voice it's unbelievable.

>>3718317
SMC is the group made me cameback to Vtuber

>>3717761
Kek the holo audience that got curious from the other days already forgot about them

>>3718415
long bois

>>3718334
I'd watch out of morbid curiosity but those stream times are way too late so they can go fuck themselves

>>3718189
Only if the male is a shota.

>>3718407
Apparently the full song isn't out yet though, just a preview on JP spotify.

>>3718516

>>3718793
What a succubus

>>3714465
>That's not an idol, that's an opportunist..
Pretty much summed up Rushia

>>3718699
link?

>>3718793
Those hips don't lie.

>>3714169
hot

>>3718941
https://linkco.re/cu7tUpMV

>>3719088
Sound nice

>>3719128
>not idols
lamo

>>3718793
>bad back
>good hips
How does he do it?

>>3719088
full on youtube music. the play button's invisible though. sounds much better than any over processed holoshit

>>3719202
Go bait in the anti thread schizo

>>3719258
Doesn't work for me.
>>3719128
I like it but the best part is probably after the fadeout.

>>3719258
>full on youtube music
>not available in your area
what did they mean by this?

>>3719318
>>3719343
i'm in aus so it's probaby released on 16th

>>3719365
Nervermind, it works on linemusic

>>3719088
The site under amazon has the longest preview I think, you can kinda hear the last third vocal.

This sounds way better than I expected from just the preview alone though.

So after their debut and the hype settles, are we going to keep having a separate thread for EN branch?

>>3719088
Not bad.

https://streamable.com/25d917

>>3719494
JP onlys and EN mix like oil and water

Fish voice is the weakest of three, if she can sing better then it would be 8/10 anisong

>>3719533
>https://streamable.com/25d917
IT'S HER

Not a bad song, but listening to JP-inspired idol music in English is giving me whiplash

>>3719533
I really don't like the beginning but the refrain is pretty good.

>>3719533
Damn, this is nice.

>>3719533
melody is nice
the lyrics though are discordant and janky

>>3719777
yeah it would probably sound much better in japanese

>>3719227
farming all day kills your back

>>3719494
Might as well keep it separate but allow discussion about streams from the other branches during dead hours.

>>3719777
There will be japanese version, mark my words

>>3719088
The one in the iTunes preview before the chorus at the end is Elira right? Holy fuck, that is a nice voice.

>>3719494
Niji ID has a thread, so I don't see why EN shouldn't. It should be active enough even if there's only 3 of them.
But -because- there's only 3 of them, there'll be lots of dead hours, during which the thread will be either slow or dominated by shitposters and schizos. Hopefully the former.

https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1393613538665639937
I kind of thought she photoshopped herself into the cockpit of a gundam at first

>>3719916
Her voice is pure SEX. My greatest investment yet.

>>3719533
That was actually great, the hell? I mean I guess I should have expected that from mafu, but the singers were good too. I find it being in English actually kinda charming. It threw me off at first but I got use to it.

Welp, people are definitely not gonna stop calling them idols after this.

>>3719942
Maybe there should be an EN + ID thread, IDs speak English most of the time anyway

>>3720042
>IDs speak English most of the time
They don't.

>>3719777
>>3719807
Why did they give the lyrics to Hoshikawa... This is like letting Haato do the lyrics for an English song

>>3720076
they do, watch the streams

>>3718190
All me.

>>3720085
It's either cause she's a known name or cause she just asked for it.

>>3720016
>>3719916
Yeah, the first two solo parts were dragon and elf, they know fish can't sing so she doesn't have a solo part

>>3720085
She didn't do the lyrics.

>>3720042
I thought only Hana and Radjiman spoke english

>>3719533
I like it

>>3714860
NijiEN managers are shit at picking out good designs

I'm not optmistic but I'm curious.
Just please don't be VShoujo-lite.

>>3719533
Took me a couple of repeats to get used to an anison being sung in EN but it's good. Chorus is really nice.

>>3720085
More like she did the theme and setting of the song

>>3720085
The lyrics were some guy called Nelson Babin-Coy an American who works as a japanese singer songwriter.

>>3719533
The chorus part is actually good. The first pre-chorus seems sort of off though. Not gonna lie, on one hand some of the lyrics seem off probably because Hoshikawa wrote them, but I assume the song was written in English and it's refreshing to somehow hear a jpop song with full English lyrics and not with completely stilted lyrics. Hearing EN covers of JP songs are always weird because they try to hard to keep accurate translations vs making the lyrics sound good, and even the best translations still don't compare to composing the lyrics+song together.

>>3720225
I don't see the 2 more experienced streamers going in as hard on the sex jokes as Vshojo. Can't promise anything about innuendo and cursing, though.

>>3720225
atleast two girls are GFE type from what i have seen from their previous life, the other girl is a gamble

>>3719533
Pretty good for a debut song, also thank god there's lyrics in the bridge. The purpose of anisong style music is to showcase the voices, nobody gives a shit about generic j-pop bridge no. 7258169.

>>3719533
Like the melody, but I can't get what the fuck they are saying and the voices sound too low energy for the song.

>>3720376
because it's in enlish so there isn't any engrish rap in it lol

NO NO NO

It was supposed to be bad!!!

What do we do now holobros?

>>3712500
How would this fucking debut gonna work, intervals is in 20 mins, what the fuck?

Any way that NijiEN won't seem like Dr Thunder compared to HoloEN's Dr Pepper?

>>3720465
FUCK RIGGERS AND FUCK MIXERS

>>3719533
ty anon, I enjoyed it. I'm sure it'll sound even better with the official release.

>>3720465
stop turning them into robots in songs.

>>3720493
Agreed! FUCK RIGGERS AND MIXERS!

>>3720465
steal mafumafu

>>3720483
20 minutes is fine. HoloEN really should have gone with shorter, more condensed debut streams, would have made them felt much less awkward and scuffed.

>>3719533
huh who leaked this?

>>3720585
It's already available in some countries on spotify

>>3720585
literally on youtube

>>3720585
They're here :)

>>3720484
I might've had an answer before I knew that it was gonna be just 3 idol-like girls.
Now I don't.

>>3720483
If you are interested in details they will have mellow reading streams later. There is literally no reason to have a debut be an hour long unless there is a karaoke section and their debut song release is a separate stream.

>>3720412
Are you listening to it in 720p? I can hear them pretty clearly.

Also yea some guy named nelson wrote the lyrics, you can actually find him on youtube. Also the lyrics are under the official music video. It's easy to see what the song is about, but I wonder if it'll relate to their lore considering hoshikawa came up with a story for it.

>>3719533
What the fuck they're better than holoEN

>>3719533
holy fuck this actually shits on holoen, top kek

>>3720631
>They're here :)
Fairy and green fish most likely are. Dunno about the dragon.

>>3719533
doomposters absolutely BTFO

>>3720682
I love HoloEN but man their first group song was mediocre.

>>3720682
MIXER HATE

>>3720682
>>3720702
Shut up! Hololive good! Nijisanji bad!

>>3719533
this doesn't sound like Mint

>>3720682
What did you fucking expect from cover?

>Holo EN are called talents by the management and doesn't want people to call Holomyth Gen 1
>Niji EN are idols

Bravo Japan

>>3720675
>hoshikawa came up with the lore
crazy coincidence how these blondes are literally Gen 0 of their respective EN branches

>>3720682
>gura actually good at singing
>kiara passable at singing
>calli a rapper
>ina kind bad at singing
>watson
how could this be?

>>3719533
>that voice
You are still holding Dragoncoin right bros?

>>3720782
Niji literally dabbing on Cover. They have better idols than the idol company lol.

>>3720798
How do you tell who's who?

>>3720798
The thought of selling never even crossed my mind.

stop it with the tribalism niggers

>>3720798
Holding Diamonds (City Lights) to the moon (where they do their debut tonight in the mini-program before the individual debuts)

>>3720798
I'm retarded, which voice is who? Timestamps?

It's funny how the shitposters got BTFO once they showed off their stuff, feels good bros

>>3720682
NijiJP also has better singer than HoloJP despite they aren't idol company lol. ultimate owned

>>3720852
need drussy

>>3720483
Longer just runs the risk of getting crushed by the pressure. People forget how rough the HoloEN debuts were because of how successful they were afterwards. It hit Amelia the worst, and she took quite a while to recover, while not doing her justice at all.

>>3720782
The irony is that Niji probably tried the idol approach thinking that's what worked for Cover.

>>3720865
>i just hope both teams are having fun

>>3720901
I feel like nijisanji could actually pull it off better than cover if we have the english song to go by

>>3720837
you roomate rep anon

My hopes for the dragon have just gone even higher, please please I beg that she streams in EU friendly times

>>3720865
Kind of annoying and I don't even watch hololive. Can't people just praise nice things without having to out something else down at the same time.

APOLOGISE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

>>3720908
They have a competent mixer so that's already a huge headstart.

>>3720829
If Ichikara were smart they'd make the song into an ad. Please Ichikara, please be smart enough to do this...

Edit with NijiEN instead of AO when?

>>3720791
It's kind of a shame that people seem to have trashed the ones that obviously don't have singing experience so much that they get afraid to sing in public. Even Gura stumbles a bit even though her voice is great. Kind of defeats the purpose of karaoke when people are expecting a concert rather than someone just enjoying singing.

>>3720869
The first solo voice is dragon, second solo voice is fairy I think, fish is terrible at singing, she suck
t. voice fetish autismo

The cathrisis factor of seeing most of the shitposters get BTFO is a sight to see. holding on to my NIJISANJIEN coins baby

>>3720932
you can sing like azki but if you behave like a zentreya you are not my oshi

>>3720558
too late, mafumafu is best buds with fuwa

>>3720994
watson knows she is bad at singing but does her best to improve and actually starts to have more fun with it and be less nervous

>>3712894
They used to stream whatever they want. And You know how that ended? Mio's channel suspended and like 80% of Hololive's streams privated.
Nijisanji also has to ask for perms since it's a company. They are just risking it with those streams without permissions or superchat.

>>3720313
>innuendo and cursing
I can't imagine why you would have a problem with cursing unless you are 12 years old. One of the dumbest things about HoloEN is the managers trying to stop them from saying "shit"

>NijiEN released their original song
>release the Vsinger and her original song composed by DAOKO and lyrics by Kenshi Yonezu then pomp it
>get GEN 2 on the line

>>3720932
I SHOULDN'T HAVE DOUBTED

>>3721094
Yeah, I just feel like she shouldn't feel bad about not being the best singer in the first place. Not that she shouldn't try to improve, it's great that she wants to.

>>3719088
wtf why do all of the good singers go to niji

>>3721185
didn't ask, still holding nijiencoin

>>3721110
I don't mind a bit of it, but to me too much makes someone seem kind of uneducated or dumb, lacking in class. In moderation and at appropriate times is fine though and sometimes even hilarious.

>>3721110
It depends. If it flows naturally I don't care but some chuubas try way too hard because they think it's funny. Trying way too hard is cringe regardless of purity or whatever.

>>3721281
cause cover ruin their talents' songs

>>3721185
>mixers?
>call the usual guys

>>3720983
Needs to be Pomu

>>3721185
>the song is good?
>get our shitty mixer to fuck it up

Don't get too cocky now, they'll still make fun of your numbers

NijiEN continuing the tradition of mogging Hololive in singing, nothing new: https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm

>>3720929
They're letting off steam after the endless shitposting that's been happening 24/7 since the debut announcement. Let us have this moment before it goes back to that after the debuts.

>>3721348
>wait he is still busy rigging gura´s model?
>does not matter he is good enough to do both over the weekend

>>3721396
You can have all the numbers in the world but if your staff can't mix for shit then you got something wrong going on there.

also decent riggers for fucks sake.

Why a predebut vtuber though? Surely there were better candidates that had experience right? Do they see something we don't?

>>3721418

>>3721418
I remember seeing this shit live, hypest moment was rikiichis long note hold

>>3721418
From the weakness of EN
Lulu save
from the lies of the antis
Lulu preserve us
from the rage of the lawyers
Lulu protect us
from the temptation of the other chubas
Lulu cleanse us
from the ravages of the rrats
Lulu shield us
from this rotting cage of loneliness
Lulu set us free

Luv me Lulu

>>3721396
No one in their right mind would think that NijiEN is going to match HoloEN in numbers for the next 6 months at least. It's not beyond reason, but Hololive has such a solid foothold that it's hard to imagine them slipping soon.

>>3721418
>Deron's YOUR LIFE CHANGES EVERYTHING
always kino

>>3719533
better than expected desu desu

>>3721418
I mean they will never let men near there girls which is sad. Joe is amazing.

I wanna like these girls but can you fags stop being tribalist over which company your oshi works for? It literally does not matter.

>>3721509
Holoen's maneger is dumbshit, what else is new, they're still stuck in their own bubble

>>3721551
But its okay when holofags do it right?

>>3721580
No, retard.

>>3721551
When you have holofag shitposters trying to derail threads, they deserve to get shat on.

also cover can't get decent mixers and riggers to save their life

>nijiniggers suddenly acting smug
Okay you win this time but this will be the last time.

>>3721551
You need to learn how to ignore bait and shitpost on 4chan to be honest

>>3721442
We can only imagine they were impressed by the audition. Some other vtubers have retired too, so maybe they wanted to pair one with less experience with the 2 more experienced ones to give her some cover, then have others debut later.

>>3721631
I would have said that holofags got double BTFO today between this and Kiara collabing with VShojo but it's very likely nijis will collab with VShojo too so...

>>3721616
Holofags thrive in shitflinging. Why would you invite them? We are in a hostile territory as is.

>>3721631
You'll have you last laugh when you see the numbers that are about to come

>cover is now copying nijisanjis gameshow
>got mogged by nijiEN's good english song compared to their meme country roads song
>guras live2D rigger was garbage
>covers music mixers are trash

and holofaggots still eat shit up because of numbers

>>3721442
I'm only familiar with one of them, can you elaborate?

>>3721631
At least pick a better chuuba to tribalpost

>>3721706
Numbers are gonna be bad compared to holoEN, but that makes total sense since nijisanji is not as known in the west

>>3720110
You must be only watching Hana, Bon or Reza then. The rest it's indonesian>>>>>>>>>>>english>japanese

>>3721551
No one is trashing the actual talent, and insults towards Hololive about how they treat some of their talent are the same things that the fans of the vtubers are worried about. As far as stuff like protecting the talent too much goes, if Niji ends up giving the new girls too much freedom and they end up doing something that gets a lot of negative attention, the narrative surrounding that could change in a hurry.

>>3721721
Fish was still predebut. She had been in collabs but I don't think she even had her model/rigging done. The others had at least been vtubers for a little bit.

>>3721719
it's all because of plebbit. those faggots are the biggest yes men on the planet they can't force a change. whatever shitflinging we do here is futile. the retarded rigger and shit audio mixers will stay as long as criticism is seen as "asssaulting people involved" by normalfags.

>>3721916
it's the reason why I only follow cali since she does all the mixing and stuff on her own, so shes better than whatever the fuck cover has atm

>>3721916
haha look it's a rhombus!

>>3719610
>>3720770
WELL, WHICH IS IT?

>>3719533
It's okay fellow Holobros, we still have NEXT COLOR PLANET and RED HEART..

What the fuck, the song is good

>>3719533
the post that destroyed /hlg/

>>3722078
CLAP
YOUR
HANDS

>>3719533
It feels like a really good dubbed anime OP, which is to say pretty fucking good as far as Japanese-composed songs with English lyrics.

>>3721418
I saw this posted so many times I recognize it by the URL, but still click and listen. God-tier concert and song.

Man, they should have released Diamond City Lights before the debuts. The full song convinced me there's a lot of talent and production value behind NijiEN.

>>3722078
NCP is pretty good too, no need to start a competition.

>>3722078
>>3722139
Jesus this is making me cackle.

>>3722064
who cares

>>3722296
Fuck me, the song would've made a much better ad than the announcement trailer with the shitty one-liners...

>>3721851
>how they treat some of their talent
You mean disbanded the whole IN gen?

>>3722078
Red heart is fucking great it is actually one of my most listened to songs
>does it have meaningful lyrics
no
>is chammers a great singer
not really
>do i get pumped and have a great fucking time listening to this cute retard sing in a broken accent
you bet your fucking ass i do

>>3722447
*CN

what the hell, it's better than the song mafu made for fuwa.

>>3722425
Maybe they'll make it one after the debut and premiere.

>>3722296
At least shill a chorus preview on twitter. I'm assuming they want to premiere the song at the debut show but a snippet would do them some good before the debuts.

>>3722296
Yeah, I feel like they should release the song first to raise the hype train more to gain more eyes in the debut stream

>>3722447
The difference is that HoloEN is wildly successful, probably beyond what anyone at Cover would have expected. And yet they still treat them like was discussed above. With NijiIN and HoloCN, you can at least make the argument that those were business decisions, even if it really sucks for the streamers.