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Tempus was a mistake
Dwarfkek?
>>36946888Bet you wouldn't dare say that to Regis's face, fuckboy.
>holoEN is so grim that they can only brag about someone completely unrelated to holoEN
Is this the first time a JP has the same sub growth as Gura? Other ENs nowhere to be seen of course, most of them have less than 10k sub growth or even triple 0s like Ame and Ina
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>39,662: Flare (Hololive)>26,088: Sara (Nijisanji)>19,496: Shion (Hololive)>18,986: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>18,952: Iroha (Hololive)>18,656: Ayame (Hololive)>18,655: Nagao (Nijisanji)>15,818: Pekora (Hololive)>15,060: Salome (Nijisanji)>14,007: Koyori (Hololive)>12,314: AZKi (Hololive)>11,349: Lamy (Hololive)>10,370: Minato (Nijisanji)>10,295: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,199: Chloe (Hololive)>10,141: Lauren (Nijisanji)
what did we learn last thread /#/?
I didn't see any Flare lewds last thread.You need to step up your game, elfriends.
>>36946949Don't look at irys
GRIM
>>36946949GRIM
July 18th, 2022the day EN numbers started crashingThe day Tempiss was announced
>>36946914Ame looks like she's sitting on the couch about to get dicked down by 4 guys
Are there no Flare lewds? With her body? Seriously? NoeFure? Anything? Or will we just keep talking about 4 guys around 200k subs each instead?
>>36946949
>>36946966>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora2x: Suisei1x: Flare, Marine, Miko, Mio, Yashiro>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY205x: Hololive97x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER49x: Pekora21x: Miko17x: Aqua, Kuzuha16x: Salome14x: Nijisanji13x: Subaru10x: Marine7x: Suisei6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura4x: Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Koyori, Mayuzumi, Mel2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta
>>36947007She's a filthy dark skinned knife ear
>>36947017red is hololiveblue is nijisanji
>>36946996Numbers didn't start crashing till September though.
>>36946966
>>36946967nijiniggers trying to rewrite history as usual
>>36947029>2022 SILVERS>PER COMPANY196x: Hololive103x: Nijisanji6x: VSPO5x: Indie4x: Neo Porte1x: PRISM Project>PER STREAMER48x: Pekora28x: Kuzuha27x: Miko18x: Marine14x: Subaru11x: Salome, Suisei10x: Gura, Nijisanji7x: Hololive6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya5x: Fubuki4x: Lize3x: Aqua, Flare, Hal, Koyori, Lui2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui
>>36947044And you wouldn't fuck a drow that looks as good as Flare?
2016 - 2019: Kizuna AI2019 - 2022: Hololive2022 - 2024: ?
>>36946949Blue
and with this, Amelia has failed to get 10k subs in more than one monthher last tick was Oct. 1
>>36947012>-1000jesas...
How many gold Sankisei got now?
>>36947069
Rio just said there will be new holopro MC server
>>36947107>pic
>>36947012lmao
>>36947106>Kronii>Kobo
>>36947100VSPO please. They really need more lewds.
>>36947097>2022 BRONZES>PER COMPANY204x: Hololive95x: Nijisanji5x: Indie, Neo Porte2x: Noripro1x: 774 Inc., Holostars, VSPO>PER STREAMER32x: Miko, Subaru31x: Pekora25x: Kuzuha16x: Marine12x: Salome10x: Gura9x: Nijisanji6x: Koyori, Toya5x: Okayu4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Hal, Lamy, Mori, Suisei3x: Amelia, Choco, Fubuki, Hayato, Korone, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction
>>36947106>All blue women are the good holos except KroniiKronii is the blight of blue women
>>36947136
>>36947139aka, a second stars servergot it
>>36947168Sorry, VSPO clip and lewd permission were denied by the management.
>>36947176
>>36947139hope you mean holostars server
>>36947139Lol Holo barely play MC anymore. The fuck management are hoping for?
>>36947012Mori getting more views in the last 30 days and it's not even close.
>>36947208
>>36947012Don't worry IRyS a new model will save you. The YT algorithm hates your model, not the constant breaks and ~10 stream months you have when you're not on break.
>>36947139FINALLYa reason for Mori to actually play the block gameoh, I bet Amelia is exited too to put her bed next to Regis's and oh man, Kronii x Vesper impromptu collabs will be 10x easier, no need to look for a workaround!
>>36947029
>>36947248
>>36947012>Doesn't stream>Lost 1k subJesus, IRyStocrats are ruthless
Dwarf kun here, Flare is so hot
>>36947139Proof next thread ?
>>36947139Maybe Mori will have some newfound motivation to play minecraft again
>>36947277
>>36947139Proof this thread. My wife(male) is going to have minecraft sex with me
>>36947139>holoen is down the drain>the fans are THIRSTY for content>oh I know, they NEED a holo x stars MC server! that will fix it!
>>36946967that this thread is full of unbelievably retarded newfags who don't even know who made bum bum cha
>>36947139Sure they did
>>36947139Kronii finally has a reason to play MC again
>>36947306
>>36947096It was obvious when he tweeted that he couldn’t stop working on Holocure until he added a certain someone to it
>>36946949I hope Koyo becomes the first holoX to reach 1million.
>>36947012>-1000Wow
>>36947338
>>36947275>>36947300it will happen, remember when Irys debuted? Mori was CAMPING on the server for the first time Irys played thereshe even gave her a tour (although she recognized nothing and chat hat to do all the work)
>>36947327https://twitter.com/i/status/1294982862710611968
>>36947364
Autistic Hag "grinding" in a horror game > Collab(unannounced) with Kobo and Astelfucking kek
>>36947380I vaguely remember that, but i couldn't be arsed to watch it
nijikeks things are looking grim
why do we care about subs again? literally the most useless merit
>>36947139>400 watching>nipI'd ask some proof before jumping to conclusion, you might as well say that he's Hitler's long lost nephew and there would be retards believing it.
>>36947139Is this why Gura was doom posting about minecraft?
>>36947347>tfw he'll keep Sankisei for last just to keep his motivation high
>>36947432It's the only thing Gura is best at so chumkeks keep bringing it up
>>36947410
>>36947432sure, lets talk about their CCVGRIMGRIMGRIMGuraGRIM GRIMGRIM
>>36947422They are used to it
>>36947450
Harry Potter's numbers are kinda...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecgrvh4kQRU
>>36947453nothing is doing good, not subs, not ccv, not views...just nothing
>>36947439>"You could always play Minecraft">"Nobody speak" "Cricket noise"Yep
>>36947432the same reason we care about ccv or vods
>>36947489>489E6fVqfjVUAINQFH.jfif.jpg (258 KB, 988x15
>>36947490haachama will be the first to play this, haachama has been a good girl to her manager just to make sure she gets the perms to play this
at least niji has better quality fan made game than holoshit kek.https://deevs-team.itch.io/present-memories
>>36947139Wouldn't the JP girls be up in arms about this?
>>36947434No one on this board willingly watches Rio, even /stars/ is too busy talking about Aruran.
>>36947523
>>36947527>Visual Novel
>>36947055Numberfaggin now causes color blindness
>>36947096I don't get why he added all of EN first to his fangame if he's primarily a JPfag.
>>36947556
>>36947411Horror beats Valorant? Shocking indeed.
>>36947542doesn't mean the other one is getting deleted
>>36947551What does that thread think about Aruran's transformation into a young wigger?
>>36947593
>>36947516CCV and VOD Views are way more meaningful than subs, though
>>36947632
Here is KayYu up until August 2021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcROT3lfBYAn inescapable figure in the Holo universe
>>36947551nigga if this was true, the sisters would definitely be posting about it in /stars/. can't the bait be more obvious
>>36947665
>>36947606Then what would be the point ?The only people who would play on it are going to be Stars, the usual suspect from JP (Fubuki, Matsuri), ID, and the usual from EN.No point
>>36947587EN has more international recognition.
>>36947635Anon please, none of it is meaningful to us outside of competitions we make up itt. All of these metrics have value to the people and companies that work with them though
>>36947698
>>36947613Most of his actual fans hate it. Others are don't care, it's telling when his highest ccv is still from leeching from fubuki and Matsuri.
That's exactly the point.So holos who want to play with males can play on the new server instead of the main server.
>>36947680He did that awesome fox burger king animation and didn't include it anywhere in Holocure?
>>36947700management hopes others will also join and the homos are getting more integrated into the hololive brand
>>36947731
Lol they are like the /#/ of gacha generals
>>36947635VOD views have a decent correlation with subs. Fauna might get the best CCV in Council but she's still below Kronii and Mumei in average views per VOD.
>>36947587Because EN are more popular and will get more engagement, more people talking about it, and people playing the game, it's not rocket science.
>>36947751Meant for>>36947700
>>36947779vtubers?
>>36947581Was it this fanart that inspired the voiced manga?
>>36947774
>>36947820
>>36947772Assuming it's true, it's going to fuck up HoloEN minecraft even more. It won't change anything even a tiny bit for JP, because most important Minecraft people over there are strict NOMALES. But half of EN will move their occasional Minecraft activities to the "Holopro" server, leaving the remaining CGDCT faction girls alone on the old girls one. Which means fewer interactions, worse content, and they just won't play it.EN management is speed running the destruction of the branch.
>>36947751So, the ID girls.
>>36947787Holo aren't banned from the Stars server, nothing is stopping them from going there if they want to play with males
>>36947820God her OG outfit was so damn sex, not that I mind her schoolgirl looking one now.
>>36947779all gacha games report on banner salesit's just half of all gacha games are dying so you only see like 3 of them bragging about it
>>36947613They hate it. People really liked the old man look he had, apparently they’re also getting turned off by his attitude of basically telling people to get over it.
>>36947785Funny how all these EN fans don't bother to watch streams or even VODs nowadays.
>>36947849
>>36947411>it takes Kobo and Astel for Regis to reach near the average ccv of Nowa, and Kaelawhat can he do to save himself, seriously? He seems very directionless.
>>36947889
>>36947887Irrelevant metrics, they still buy more merch on average than JP and have higher engagement on Twitter.
>>36947864And Bae/Kronii/Ame, yeah. Basically leaving Fauna alone in the Minecraft world.
>>36947884Nah you don't understand/gig/ in particular is obsessed with numbers. They have sale horserace for characters just like our tally
>>36947897He should do the Paul strat and challenge other vtubers to a boxing match
>>36947139Should've been rust, It has bigger buff than minecraft
>>36947912>they still buy more merch on average than JP Source? Le dino Gura is not evidence of that.
>>36947897Despite the girl collabs Regis doesn't seem like much of a numberfag considering he loves doing long multipart series on the same game.
>>36947912>EN does bad in any metric>"It doesn't matter!!!"I thought VOD view is the most important thing on Youtube? Also>Twitter engagementLmao Nijinigger behavior
>>36947912Yeah man these twitter engagements sure help the holos
>>36947912who has higher engagement on twitter? ENs????? they wouldn't even DARE touch a hair on laplus's twitter engagements kekbaelz, fauna and mumei barely get more than 100 replies on their tweets sometimes >they still buy more merch on average than JProru
>>36947882it was but it's also badly proportioned. her legs are almost twice the length of her body. her old 3d looks so comical.
>>36947911
>>36947912>higher engagement on Twitter
>>36947923She still have Ina/Gura/Kiara/Mumei, who are the biggest MC player anyways
>>36947923>And Bae/Kronii/Ame, yeah.So just Bae.
>>36947912Any proof for any of these claims?
>>36947927No i know anon I play genshinOther gacha threads do to. /hig/ does itBut obviously since Genshin gets the BIG NOOMBERS /gig/ likes to post about it the most
>>36947923Fauna wandering around alone talking to herself in the abandoned ruins of the EN server while Mori and Kronii stream with Regis to 3.5k people. All the old glory of HoloEN minecraft a long-forgotten memory. The bleakest possible future.
>>36947992
>>36947542Nah, they'll just continue to ignore the stars. This is a fucking retarded move from management though, but I know see why Shinove decided to fuck off. Upper management is intent to trying to force stars into the holobox, and Shinove was against it. He lost his fight, so he quit. Expect to see more retarded shit trying to bring the stars closer to Hololive.
>>36947012If the redesign is not perceive as an actual improvement I wonder how many IRyStocrats will jump ship
>>36948001I miss when IRyS would go on her little adventures with her Minecraft bgm playing in the background.
>>36947923Even Fauna hasn't streamed Minecraft in over a month, she seems to have abandoned it too since no one else can be bothered to play with her. For as much as Gura likes to gush about Fauna you'd think she could at least have a Minecraft collab with her once in a while.
>>36947923She still has Kiara.....and Ina if she doesnt die. And Kaela who seems to largely prefer the girls even tho she has no problem with the stars. The only ID wiout a homo collab yet. Strange that one.
>>36948025
>>36948019Please stop...
>>36947923Bae has barely collabed with the EN stars at all and rarely even mentions them anymoreNo way she drops Fauna and Mumei for them
>>36947933management hate rust
>>36948067
>>36947923she can always try and play with chama
>>36948055No Fauna literally had a collab with Kiara planned in minecraft this week until Clover died. She only took a month off because of her october collabs. She always intended to come back
Why are you retards even taking this bait serious anyways, are you that bored? This is why /mans/ comes here to fuck with you guys by feeding you wrong info.
>>36948055t. RetardShe was literally going to play with Kiara this week to prep for the Wither (which is something she wanted to do) and the next course of action would've been the Warden.
Ah Sankisei Splatoon tomorrow night (or today) night btw. Marine confirmed it
>>36948099
Grim status?
>>36948033I love Flare after learning that the girls have the ability to set their own 'bounciness' setting for their 3D lives.
>>36948115It's fun and I'm bored.
>>36948115Not enough Furea lewds. Please understand
>>36948115Lots of stuff we would have called "worse case scenarios" a year ago has happened in the past 6 months, so it's easy to give in to your inner grimgang and doompost.
>>36948131Multi POV right? I wonder if it will be Marine or Pekora who get the highest CCV
>>36948115There is 4 streams right now, 1 member, 1 ID phasmo and 2 homo, what the fuck to you want to talk about
>>36948042I will. I've been holding out for the redesign but her 6 hour streams 3 days a week with one or two of them being 50% Japanes coupled with her breaks have been filtering me.
>>36948103>>36948129Wasn't aware of that. Maybe there's some dim hope for HoloEN Minecraft after all.
>>36948033I want flare's titsjob so badly…
>>36948141
>>36947767>and didn't include it anywhere in HolocureIsn't burger the food supply item?
>>36948158go jack off or find something productive to do instead of shitting up the thread for everyone else dumb selfish faggot
>>36948241
I wonder if Fauna is mad behind the scenes. I feel like if anyone truly appreciated and loved what old HoloEN used to be, it was her.
>>36948154BROWNED
>>36948270
>>36948285It’s her own fault for never setting up collabs as well, she spends half of her MC streams moping about how dead the server is.
>>36948033I always forget how busty the sexy chocolate elf is. Next to the titty knight, she seems small in comparison
Seeing Tempus just completely fucking destroy HoloEN, I think Rushia's retarded hail mary to desperately stop any rumors about her being m*le enjoyer makes more sense. You can have a million twitter and reddit yass queen tourists defending you from any open backlash, but if everyone just quietly leaves, what was the fucking point?It's like yes, objectively there is no moral wrong with having sucked 100 dicks and the internet will defend you for it. But men will avoid you for it anyway, even if they don't openly call you a whore.
>>36948300
>>36948253I suppose so but that's just a burger, kind of a generic food item, not the cute animation of FBK sitting on top of it joyfully kicking her feet.
>a lot of coffee elf's posts lewds in this threadWhat's the status of the dwarves?
who will be the boss in the next update for holocure you reckon?
>>36948343
>>36948185I want to see how their 60k box will be distributed actually. Flare have a slight buff on Splatoon cause she's a good player
>>36948378
>>36948324Did Tempus also destroy NijiEN then? Cause they're both in steep recline.
serious question, when will flare hit 1m subs?
>>36948306She tried to revive EN numbers but they won't listen, they prefer to suck Tempiss off
>>36948037They are just hurting themselves by doing this. Is the the start of hololive fall from grace?
>>36948306Eh, I understand where she's coming from though? A person who doesn't want to play Minecraft getting asked to and feeling obligated because they were asked to rather than because they WANT to is not a good time. Especially if it's for casual shit vs what they plan to do (killing a boss)
>>36948368Pekora
>>36948324The worst thing is people pretending it's because of "muh toxic idol culture" and it's exclusive to nips when in reality even in the west it has always been like this
when fauna used to get 10k on minecraft, what did she used to do on the server? just wander around? or build stuff?
What percentage of Flare is sexy?
>>36948185Historically Pekora always got the higher CCV in split POVs.
>>36948424Unless a new golden era happens, by the end of next year
>>36948414
>>36948424Next July or so?
>>36948422>Did Tempus also destroy NijiEN then?No, that's iLUNA job
>>36948422No niji recline was from Vox yo mama joke and how mediocre Iluna is. Vox started free falling from there.
>>36948368I bet both my balls that the spider haachama think will be in it, and it'd be cool if they put mukirose too since it'll be gen1 themed
pretty sure Bae played some minecraft last month, and Mumei was kind of playing regularly until she destroyed the bunkeronii, had a panic attack on stream and never touched it again Kronii is indeed a sad case though
A new EN girl gen cannot save HoloEN. From the very start, HoloEN was given a ridiculous amount of subs/views/fans. They inherited the Kingdom of God. The challenge for them was always keeping those people, never getting more because that would have put them in an absurd position (Gura is still one of the EN market's top streamers and basically the top EN female. 2 years ago Ame would also casually get her current numbers, that's fucking absurd).But they failed to keep the numbers, because management failed to seize the initiative and pump out gens at a decent 7-8 month pace. The more numbers EN loses, the more fucked they are. They can never recover these, they needed new gens to staunch the bleeding.Fuck, we're at a point where, if Gura were to spend 1 more year in hololive and graduate...she'll have had a pretty hefty vtubing career. 3 years in is the point where for example, Aqua checked the fuck out. It's a natural "okay I've kinda done most of this vtubing shit" end point. It needs new blood.
>>36948523
>>36948422Has anyone checked if the Tempus views weren't actually drained from Niji males, and that's why NijiEN guys have reclined but the girls have not? The homotrannybeggars behave exactly like nijiniggers as well.
>>36948433Yeah and it's working, ain't it?
>>36948507100
>>36948568
>>36948368china
>>36948529So once Mysta is back you think he'll be getting his 9-12k streams as usual?
>>36948579Well undoubtedly some are NijiEN viewers and some are HoloEN/ID viewers. There's no fucking debate here, but also no way to deduce who the majority are.What we do know is that there sure as shit aren't a lot of people who discovered the magic of vtubing via fucking tempiss.
>>36948588Are we still comparing a 4 person collab to a 6+ one
>>36948593
>>36948588>Combined might of 3 boxes>vs one box>most views still come from that one boxRetard
>>36948607No way, all of the niji males lost most of their cn tourist from that.
I know this is a late post, but I checked the thread and right off the bat we had posts about sub growth right now. And the replies to it are just as bad. Does this thread just go through users who have no idea that subs have been getting purged for a long time now? You’ve had actual holos mention it, IRyS herself mentioned it and it happened to her live on stream in the past. Not even that but we just saw a -1k tick for her, the very person who confirmed it’s happening, happen again and yet everyone’s just like, completely feigning knowledge of it. Marine was over 130k subs in a month after treasure box got released, held steady and then in an instant got decimated and went down to 20-30k subs a month. Like, it’s a thing happening. It’s getting kind of annoying that less and less people are clarifying these issues because all it does is just drive retarded rrats here and on the catalog and further eggs on shitposting.
>>36948559>But they failed to keep the numbers, because management failed to seize the initiative and pump out gens at a decent 7-8 month pace.More like because the girls couldn't fucking stream more than 10 hours a week (except Kiara/IRyS)
>>36948422NijiEN declined for a different reason. It turns out that when you court a historically fickle and unstable community to grow rapidly, they will leave just as quickly. Iluna wasn't really a big shock to the audience like Tempiss was to HoloEN. Instead, they were just aggressively mediocre and added nothing to NijiEN while splitting viewership further.
>>36948621
>>36948694
>>36948579There's very little overlap between NijiEN and Tempus. Also we've been over this already, a large part of the NijiEN girl incline came from the Luxiem fanbase. That's why some people like Pomu went from having almost a entirely male fanbase to having a significant female fanbase. I think people like Enna might even have a majority female fanbase. A lot of them talked about their demographic changes. So the Luxiem viewers got bored and went to the girls instead.I guess a possibility that the reverwe happened in Hololive and some Holo girl watches just converted to full time Tempus viewers, but there's no evidence for that.
Why did Suisei's new song flop?
does 5ch have a warosu equivalent
>>36948670They're not blameless, but (and /#/ will curse me for this blasphemy)...more streams would have made things worse. Hololive has a limited amount of content, and EN market is so fucking picky with "buff" games. Imagine a reality where all of them streamed like Kiara, for 4-5 hours. Their viewers would have fucked off way sooner because game spam is not the way.EN girls could have staunched the bleeding better by doing more big collabs, more game show like things, karaoke relays blah blah. But just "more streams" isn't a magic fix for the simple problem of content getting stale.
Subs growth slowed across the board. Here is the subs growth ranking for vtubers for the month of November so far.>pic relatedThese are the only vtubers tracked by vrabi that grew 10k or more this month so far.
>>36948674So you wouldn't consider the HoloEN audience that has largely deserted it to be a fickle or unstable community?
>>36947139I´m gonna be waiting translation, because I believe that´s pure BS.
>>36947139Is this why Shiraken is jumping ship to do their own server?
>>36948660When you look at EN the subs slow down correlates with breaks, its pretty obvious. Poparity boosts those at the top.but for the middling ones like Kronii and IRyS who take more breaks than anyone else it's pretty obvious what's hurting their growth.
>>36948755nips can't even implement basic image functionality to their boards and you're expecting an archive? kek
>>36948721
>>36948758Here is for NijiEN, and something interesting>Vox didn't tick up even once in November yetVox doesn't tick up 10k for the second consecutive week now.
>>36946966I was going to make a joke earlier when they had just started streaming on how Salome was finally beating Peko but what the fuck
>>36948674Iluna being bad made hurt niji males along with holopro having males as well split their fans even more. Tempiss made most unicorns drop holoen instantly, while the ones that stay are getting filter day by day.
>>36948804
>>36947106I thought Kronii had a clown nose at first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yz3ZjKSorU>homo 1kwhat happen here??
>>36948853
We need to revoke Aqua's first army status, she hasn't gotten any gold since forever.
>>36948893raid
>>36948756Yeah, more streams would obviously be good, but long streams of games no one cares about is not the answer. You need more content. Stuff like interesting collabs, game shows, skits.
>>36948914That's surprisingly good retention for a raid
>>36948904
>>36948790Did they say that?
>>36948914Unironically decent retention for a raid that went from EN -> JP, and a JP homo at that
>>36948970
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1591098440640913409>still shilling the homo song>no mention of EN Ochame Kinou hitting the huge 10M milestoneEN is a lost cause with this management. Little by little they will destroy everything.
Do you think EN management is looking at the fucking state of the hiatuses in EN and thinking>huh wait a minute if a few of them happen to take breaks the whole branch is gone>could we have avoid this somehow
>>36949014
>>36947587He's not the only one working on the game and everyone else is an ENfag
>>36948042Her subs have been shit for a while but she still gets good CCV (top 3) so she doesn't have to worry too much
>>36946966You fuckers already posted all the good Shiraken lewds
>>36949059they're probably thinking "damn we need starsEN2 asap"
>>36949023just call them out everytime they try to shill the homos
>Ame, you sure 360 is a relevant gimmick and our audience will care for it?>Of course!
>>36949063
>>36949059They are probably thinking that it's a good time for the general audience to check out tempus and scratching their heads over why their CCV hasn't grown.
Post more grim
>>36949109haha nice inspect element job you did there anon, there's no fucking way, NO WAY this is real haha
>>36949129
>>36949095You'll get blocked for that, kek.
>>36948914Is Tempus ever going to get the hint that they are LITERALLY the only people in HoloPro using the raid feature and there must be some sort of reason for that?
>>36949059>"This is perfect, with so many of them on break people will finally check the homos!"
>>36949180the next step is call them out about the twitter block in reddit
>>36949178
>>36949109if Gura did the sucky sucky with VR controls this would be a 100M view video
>>36949023We complain about Homobeggar with the “save the boys” mentality but forgot it’s management themselves pushing for this mentality. They shill the boys everywhere and make people feel like they need to be supported
>>36949180Wait, do they block people that call out the homoshilling?
>>36949192Nah, as much as I hate Tempus, raids are actually a good thing because a lot of people are too lazy to funnel to another stream. I guarantee if HoloEN used raids you'd see a lot less doomposting.
>>36949095The yesman will shit on you, thinking they're "owning the incel". Hololive management will then think that shilling homo is successful and they'll just keep doing it
>>36947012>Gura + Mori makes up about half of the EN views in the last 30 daysGrim
>>36948914>still over 1ksurprisingly many staying
>>36949229
>>36949109I was waiting for the 4k version she said was coming that she walked back on. I tried watching this with my headset but at youtube res it just looks like total shit.
>>36949246There is no distinction between a homobeggar doing it for free or one on “HoloProEN” payroll
>>36949246But this literally does not work. It's like..idk.. they don't understand men won't give men that much of a break?>Abloo bloo this guy only has 1k ccv watch himNigger 1k ccv is amazing and why would I watch someone who isn't doing content I care for personally. Now women? Women get saviorfags. There's a little built in biological AAAH I MUST PROTECT button in our retarded penisoid brains for that.
>>36949319
>>36949267I think that one anon here did complain about it and got instant blocked on sight. He did post his screenshot, tho.
Literally nobody gives a fuck about this song hahaha
>>36948778They were loyal viewers and stable for the better part of a year and a half. NijiEN's boom didn't even last half a year before their recline and was predicated on tourists, which is way less stable. The issue that Tempiss introduced is a retarded culture war that never really got brought into the forefront until July this year. This antagonized the majority of the audience that were getting drowned out by Twitter and Reddit faggots. Even the fucking talents, like Ame, Mori, and Kronii, were shitting on and targeting their own audience. This is nothing like NijiEN, who do everything they can to pander to their audience and tourists. Yet, they slowly killed themselves off with many small blunders like the yo momma yab and the declining quality of talents and content.HoloEN's audience got the message that they were actively being targeted and weren't wanted anymore, so they left. NijiEN's audience revolve around inconsistent tourists who get offended at random shit at the drop of a hat and don't even show up to regular streams.
>>36949023Intern kun is here, he's running damage control by suddenly pretending to care about fucking Irys (roru)https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1591146534875582464?s=20&t=rOBtPxRkxjbCOZlsfvR75g
>>36949023https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1591146534875582464You can shut up about shilling now
>>36949294Well we only shit on raid cause it prevent us from seeing the true number one can attract. It’s just not your number even if you can retain it
>>36949377What the fuck I thought you guys said Mori's music is still doing amazing
>>36949358
>>36949402Her old music that is
>>36949377Horrible, really horrible, no two ways about it.
>>36949221>Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderator of r/hololive
>>36949402new music? not really..
>>36949417
>>36949402According to Mori, J-Chad said it’s doing good on Apple Music. Which is a metric no one can track except the artist account.
>>36949391You know the retweet her song milestones all the time right? Surely you're not just a shitposter.
>>36949464That's convenient
>>36949394Pfhahaha, called it >>36949391Hello intern kun!
>>36949391Of all the other covers the faggot can choose from, he chose this one. Fucking kek.
>>36949464sounds like cope
With the change in YouTube UI does this mean YouTube will punish people who stream more now regarding VOD view?
>>36949394What does that have to do with Ochame Kinou? Do you even know why that song is important in Hololive? I bet you don't.
>>36949462
>>36949303That has always been the case though. Nothing grim about that, Mori is just a view God. If Mori and Gura start dipping in views, that will be grim.
>>36949394kek, that’s just as sad.
>>36949507
i still don't understand why did they start pushing so hard for this bullshit, it's like a gross misunderstanding of their own product, do they not hire marketing people or something
>>36949537
>>36946914>no sana
>>36949464This is literally cope. And even if it wasn't, are we to believe that the previous songs were doing bad on Apple Music but good on YT and now they switches places? There's still a visible recline on a platform. A massive one.
we love lucubs, pippa and intern-kun here
>>36949391>>36949394>Quick, quick, uhh, which girl songs also hit a milestone>Oh, that random SSS cover that we made IRyS do at debut that never got any traction? Great, post it fast!
>>36949565
>>36949557Private company so the CEO has outsized influence on decisions. Yagoo fucking wants this to happen, so everyone who'd like to keep their job and keep getting promotions is hustling to do it (or quitting, like Shinove)
>>36949557>do they not hire marketing people or somethingThere is literally 0 indication they have people deciding anything using stats, data, or planning. Every single thing Cover does seems to be 100% winging it by retarded bureaucrats, with the talents saving their asses again and again, but having to sword fight them for every inch of kino.Seriously what was the last thing COVER CORP did that you thought was "great"? Not a talent, Cover.
>>36949363All I said was I didn’t want HoloEb to turn into niji and I got blocked. They then decided to open collabs with Niji a few days after.
>>36949600
Why are ENfags coping so much?It's fairly obvious that Tempus has changed the atmosphere of HoloEN as a whole, so naturally numbers were bound to go down.You should be happy that it wasn't as bad as it would've been if JP did this.
This song is part of Hololive's history, a unity song, and the first 10M on the EN official channel. It's absurd they didn't mention anything about it and shilled the homo song instead.
Mori still has the most views in the last 30 days in the entire hololive right? I don't think she's doing that bad >>36947012
>>36949557There’s one interesting thing about all this. Right before Tempus debut there’s a rumor about Cover hiring people who know about “entertainment for female”Looking at Tempus now do you think girls like them?
>>36949677
>>36949588How many listens does her song have on Spotify?
>>36949589Pippa is alright. Better than the drama nigs channels
>>36946465Kay Yu was a JPfag, he said it himself that the only reason he started with EN was that his teammates thought that would be what would have the highest chance of people playing it.They didn't expect the game to take off like it did.
>>36949712I remember that and thought it was really weird for Yagoo to say that they wanted brotubers in that anniversary stream
Better or worse numbers than frog detective?
>>36949712>someone made something up so it must be true
>>36949724
>>36949758Better.
>>36949707Her old songs are stuck on playlists and big enough to be picked up by the algo. Her new ones are fucking dying. Please, for the love of god, try to understand what we're talking about.Also no, she has nowhere near the most views in the last 30 days, Suisei has twice as many as her. Learn to count
Thanks Flareposter, you are the only thing worthwhile in this thread
>>36949712That’s not a rumor, it was literally in the job description for the manager position.
>>36949192lol no, they are from Twitch, for them raids are like saying hello
Alright now's your chance to say what needs to be said, /#/!
>>36949758Probably almost exactly the same.
>>36949761
>>36949707the problem is it's all on her old stuffIt's nice that people are still looping RIP and End of a Life but that doesn't help modern mori who needs her new songs to perform well because she's signed
>>36949758Better, frog detective is the most debuff shit possible.Not too much better though. Ame has a really low ceiling and floor for normal content now.
>>36949630>Yagoo>>36949637>CoverDoesn’t seem to be a widespread company wide thing. >Indonesia branch seems to be doing OK. >StarsJP are staying in their lane and likely turning a profit without impacting the main operation>Main branch is batting it out of the field Much like Innonaka in the past (and their cross mismanagement that almost cost the company Suisei in order to prioritize AZKi and their upd8 partnership) this seems to be a localized issue starting and ending with the North American branch. Nips are notorious for that exact corporate structure>create a whole owned independent subsidiary>put local leadership with full authority answering to only the CEO on HQ>let them do their thingThis way, if they fail, they get unceremoniously cut without the main company “losing face”. See also: NijiCN (the unironic one), NijiIN, HoloCN.
>>36947139man you can literally post bullshit here and get 100 (You)s huh
>>36949791CSM is bad
>>36949744Holy cope, Kay Yu literally already did stuff with EN before. Please, stop this retarded JP vs EN crap. He isn't some poor JP purist who was forced to do EN content, he'd been doing stuff for Mori/Gura/FBK/Polka.
>>36949778
>>36949775Holy shit didn't know Suisei is a fucking monster views wise
Another day of on-cooldown seething and false flagging, feels just like home, did EN tally anon even post yet or is this just preemptive?
>>36949712>>36949783if it was in the job description then I think they've done a bad job of it. Sure they have females that watch them but they really don't pander to them all that much outside of the occasional magni gay bait
>>36949783The rumor is that their targeted audience is girl, people were scared they gonna be Luxiem
>>36949588I mean this song was clearly aimed at the JP audience who uses Apple Music a lot more.
>>36949806
today for sure
>>36949294I wish EN would use raids, where they made sense to do so. Last night I was watch Pomu doing her winddown chat after the Amogus collab, and Uki (who was also in that collab) raided her maybe 5 minutes before she ended her stream. Even Pomu said "what is the point of this". Raid when it makes sense to and I'm fine with it.
>>36949828>Indonesia branch seems to be doing OK.Not really. They, their fans and (you) just don't care that much about them. ID management seems to be doing just about as much jack shit as EN management, but ID talents just have no expectations from them other than freedom to do w/e they want. Which apparently EN management by comparison can't even offer.
I fucking said cover was bigger than anycolor in term of employees. And they arent employees, they are contractors and arent counted
>>36949391>Just>Is over 3k over the 500k
>>36949744>the only reason he started with EN was that his teammates thought that would be what would have the highest chance of people playing it.>They didn't expect the game to take off like it did.Nigger did you forget him doing stuff for Mori FOR FREE early on?
>>36949859Uhhh hello? Music? Why are you surprised
>>36949871What a coincidence, the same for me, i got million of views on it.
>>36949880
>>36949898what are all of these people doing?
>>36949246I thought Cover had learned this lesson from the days of the box of shame.Maybe EN management really is filled with newfags.
>>36949829Tempus hatred in this thread is somehow still heating up. You can make up anything about Tempus or just Stars in general now and people will believe it and ragepost without thinking or confirming itGod I bet it's sad for those JP guys who tried so long to get people to not hate them to have another controversy in their branch.
>>36949871Is that what you tell yourself at night, Mori?What about literally every single other song in the past few months except Mera Mera?
>>36949791Here it goes, this really need to be said バンジーガムはガムとゴムの両方の性質を併せ持つ
>>36949925Holo Earth development
>>36949914
>>36949391Guess they had to really dig for another low milestone so their homo didn't look bad in comparison.
>>36949864Probably got told by Yagoo to target males first and go to females if they failed. I don’t know.
>>36949925Making 3D models for uproar
>>36949931>Tempus hatred in this thread is somehow still heatingThey literally fucking killed an entire branch's numbers. Grim Gang only exists because of Tempus.
>>36949898How many employees does Anycolor have?
>>36949925Making tweets and reddit posts about Holostars milestones
>>36949956
>Clip of Pekora show up in Subaru with her hoarse voice>Comments are full of people asking for moreNousagi have weird standard
>>36949864They seem to have done something judging by the 3-4 variants of /mans/ here
>>36949903Notice how that has completely stopped since council debuted?He's the quintessential JPfag, when the EN branch debuted and WASN'T filled with twitch thots, he was happy and showed it.His highest watermark with EN was Q.And over the past year as the branch collapsed, he naturally went back to watching JPs and only doing stuff for them.You can literally see this progression happen on his twitter timeline.
>>36949898>And they arent employees, they are contractors and arent counted(me) i mean the vtubers. they are all contractors. just look at the beginning>>36949925HoloEarth
>>36950015those aren't females those are just faggots
>>36949904I know her music is doing well, just didn't expect it to double Mori's views and even beating the main channel
>>36950016>when the EN branch debuted and WASN'T filled with twitch thots,Are you really trying to imply Council is thoughReally
>>36949831Who even watches that shit, the concept itself is garbage.
>>36949931Even /stars/sisters were worried about tempus predebut back then.
>>36950016Ok now you are just making shit up, please stop, it’s just a game
>>36949992
>>36949897>ID management seems to be doing just about as much jack shit as EN managementNot really? ID 1 just threw a massive 3D showdown, ID2 clearly is already lined up for their own 3D (based on the current leak), they fixed their woes with their local market, they’re present in most recent sponsored campaigns (AmongUS, Love Life), ID1 and ID2 got their new outfits, they seem to be getting invites to their local conventions and enjoying widespread popularity and their branch channel and twitter seem to be well managed and on topic. What about ID management that is lacking for their talent lately that you notice?
>>36947956The numbernigger in Tempus is Magni only. Vesper is more of a numberfag but he don't really dwell on it. Magni hyped up slime rancher 2, saying he will stream this a lot, then he ended up getting shit number and that's the only stream he's ever done of it kek
>>36949989I don’t think they pinned a stars schedule since they got called out
Nice graphs
>>36950070
>>36950033>(me) i mean the vtubers. they are all contractors. just look at the beginningSora, A-Chan, Yagoo, Roboco and some girls from Gen1 are all the same person
Wasn't Vesper supposed to have a Zatsu by now? What happened to it? Another canceled stream? Truly the Gura of Tempus.
>>36950097Big dick Z
>>36950079They did it twice but seemed to have stopped after that.
>>36950118Wouldn’t that be Ame?Gura just ghosts everyone, Ame used to cancel half her streams.
>>36950126Probably realized the additional 10 CCV earned by reminding redditors who forgot about a scheduled stream wasn't worth the obvious appearance of petty favoritismA lesson they'd be wise to learn in other areas as well. So many simple braindead PR mistakes have been made around Tempus.
>>36950112 be back, need to get some more
>>36950181It'd be fucked up to compare him to Ame because despite everything Ame would just overbook herself, she still had like 6 streams in a week where she cancels 3 streams
Anything tomorrow? I only know the Sankisei collab
>>36950146Nijisanji graphs are always so funny!
>>36950076>ID 1 just threw a massive 3D showdown, ID2 clearly is already lined up for their own 3D (based on the current leak),Kek. That's just JP management running them through the motions now that Japan is opening up. Fucking Myth is about to get the same. Honest question, you think indog management made the 3d models? Why did you post something so stupid?Same for outfits, same for collabs in which JP is present. Every single time you see something that's for JP branch, the local branch was dragged into it.
>>36950047Council was the point where expectations were way too high (thanks to Myth) and though they didn't go as far as being twitch thots, two of them had bfs (which was considered a travesty back then). Thankfully that didn't affect their streams, but that + the new girls not being as hype as Myth caused the first wave of interest to die in EN.This recline never stopped, and only got exacerbated with every single yab that came afterwards. Mori's lean thing, Mumei homo collab, Kronii's whole shitshow, and then Tempus and all the collabs.You can literally check the charts for this time period and the numbers reflect the state of things.
>>36950182Redditors don’t watch streams, they wait for clips to pop up.It actually bugged me recently since Moona did some Sun and Moon teetee shit recently that a clipper cut out and the post just reposted the clip in text form.
>>36949982The girls killed their own numbers. You can point to the chart and the Tempus debut date all you want and I won't argue it shook things up, but the girls all chose themselves snap at the fans, or visibly pick different sides of the fence, and most importantly chose to not stream. The entire summer and now going into winter it's been dead hours or overlap or just fucking nothing. Ina is one thing because she's apparently dead, and Fauna is on catbreak, but Mumei is still trying to squeeze things in despite getting slammed with college stuff. Bae is still around and doing stuff. Kiara might not be inclining but she's still constantly streaming and releasing covers and songs and not missing a step while still living a regular(ish) life and taking vacations(that she still streams during). Everyone else is just dropping the ball.
>>36950075Vesper is a numberfag’s numberfag, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he went on this general. You constantly hear him do meta-commentary about his streams, and obsess over “doing a bit”, making certain things are “entertaining”, etc. It’s pretty much the reason I’m put off by him.
>>36950118Gura doesn't cancel a lot of streams. She mostly delays or doesn't stream, but cancellations are Ame's thing.
>>36949898>oh shit we have too much money, keep hiring people
Now I think about it doesn't SSS describe why people watch hololive?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68KV7JnrvDo
>>36949931It doesnt help that /MANS/ faggots have literally admitted to making shit up here for shits and gigglesAnd then they complain when this thread is even more garbage than usual
>>36950076Letting Kobo being a whore, she could be the next Gura if she's managed properly
>>36950269You'd think a numberfag would understand numberfagging is debuff content.I watch male streamers on twitch because I care about games, not personalities, and every time I tune into some indie game I might like and the streamer is like "muh recent growth rate my subathon muh numbers" I fuck off. This shit is tourist poison. Play the goddamn game, monkey, I'm not here to hear about your channel's woes.
>>36950315>Fomenting intense hatred of your oshis for laughs and gigglesSounds like a good time I guess
>>36950014sleepy peko's voice is sex
>>36949394It only took more than a year for a cover of one of the most iconic Hololive songs to hit 500k. Grim.
>>36950269I had hoped in him and he kept building himself up as being a consistent streamer that would do two streams a day, and then night streams were too tough on him, and then streaming everyday (other than his designated break day) was too hard. And now he’s randomly cancelling streams.
>>36950076>they fixed their woes with their local marketI'm curious to hear what this means. Surely your argument isn't "they hired gen 3"? You know, going right back to "talents are the only ones doing anything good".
>>36950370I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a family to look after. Either that or corporate vtubing is just a young man’s game.
>>36950238>recline never stoppedthis is untrue things were normal for most of councils existence so far and there was very minimal drama until recently
>>36950424> he forgot the great EN cull of 2020> and 2021
>>36950298Well don’t you remember when Gura and Ame sang it on their off collab? The shark sang the whole thing meanwhile Ame only new the 1st few words.
>>36950269Isn't he on record saying the whole Nodoka thing was a preplanned bit? I don't really care about that but it does add to the image I have that everything about him is carefully constructed as opposed to genuine, which was off-putting for me. It's the same argument that's used against some of the girls when people complain they're "fake."
>>36950359/MANS/ were the homo antis all along...>>36950362Eh, I wouldn't call it sex, but it's very cute.
>>36950238>You can literally check the chartsI did, it all happened with tempus. Before them things were relatively stable with the usual seasonal up and downs.
>>36949192>Is Tempus ever going to get the hint that they are LITERALLY the only people in HoloPro using the raid feature and there must be some sort of reason for that?They're not selfish and want the viewers to continue watching another Holo chuuba even if it's not them?
So, Gura 15-16k tonight with Katamari Damancy and meltdown about how it's not 20k with a gigabuff game, right?Just making sure I understand what's on the menu
>>36950298It seems like numberdenizens only like to watch charts, breed rrats and seethe, so I don't know how SSS is relevant to our viewing habits
>>36950454>The great cull that only affects specifically virtual youtubers from hololive that speak English
>>36950494Didn't November 2021 also have a recline like this, in the leadup to CCVID?
>>36950510Of course, the sisters are already preparing.
>>36950497I can’t imagine viewers enjoy being passed around like thatThe funnel system already doing that just fine without potentially upsetting any viewer
>>36950298Holos don’t really sing SSS that much anymore, the favorite is Kirameki Rider these days.
>>36950424All soon-to-be EN3 (If there's even still "EN3" at this point, kek) should use Fauna as their role model. Not Mori, Not Ame, and yes, not even Gura.Fauna is literally just Gura with extra steps:>Love her fans>Ask her fans what they want her to stream>regular streaming schedule, and always start the stream on the dot 99% of the time>Communicative with her fanbase as to stream cancellation or whatever coming up>Try to always be cheerful on stream, admitting that she don't want to give everyone her "moody" side.It's not even a rocket science why she ended up in #2 position now, and pretty much the only EN inclining when everyone else reclined.
>>36950510Gura reclining post will over fill the board. It is what it is. Gura is the last bastion and Tempiss sisters just joined up with Nijifags and Vshojo fags to “take down the shark”
You wanna know recline? Korone.She used to be one of the top dog and was the first army of the old hololive. Now she's barely a second army.
>>36950561That's mostly Kirameki Rider is a better song rather than it's message
>>36950627Stop, sisters seethe at this clip
>>36950596>Memoryholed her 30k+ stream the other days
>>36950561They literally sang it on the Animelo Opening act …and was the big thing on the Holosummer climax
>>36950576There's always a 50/50 chance she wants to extend her public stream vacation, especially since I don't see a frame up yet. And she deserves it if she needs more time off from her hectic October pace and all the projects she has
>>36950572Fauna did recline a bit, but not as drastically as most of the others. It's a bit hard to judge her based on October though since all those horror collabs would have pumped her up beyond what she normally would get.
>>36950669Gura only put up early frame when she really looking forward to that stream, mate. Just like that outlast frame. this is nothing out of ordinary from here.
>>36950596> still more than council> still got Sega ambassadorship> still doing the same stuff she did 2 years ago> still causing enormous amounts of seethe from ENfags
>>3695065130k is like the standard for first army. It's really really rare for Korone to get 30k.
>>36950687I refer to how she used to be only above Kiara and Sana in the entire EN hierarchy and now she's above them all beside Gura.
>>36950596Korone didn't recline you retard, the others just inclined past her because she's not a FOTM chaser.
>>36950596Nigga, please stfu if you don't know what you're talking about
>>36950596she get's 15-20k playing anything and 30k new gamesnothing's changed
>>36950732>Holos not stagnating like the reclining dog means they're trend chaserThe absolute state
>>36950707>still causing enormous amounts of seethe from ENfagsThe fuck delusion is this? Korone is probably one of the dearest holos to ENfags and EOPs in general. The only "ENfag" that would seethe over Korone, even /here, is probably someone slapping your retarded ass when you tried to start the 9999th timeloop about the first to 1 million.
>>36950780It was such an obvious deflection too. It really is THAT easy.
>>36950576>“take down the shark”Y'know, I think this is an understated problem, because an enormous chunk of EN Vtubing almost entirely subsists on the idea of "Hololive bad, we're better," something something "creative freedom." Crack open an incognito tab, and as far as I'm aware the top result is still "Why I hate Vtubers" followed by drama bait dominating the rest of it.Also, interestingly enough, right now incognito searching "vtuber" is giving me almost zero Holo or Niji channels, but I'm seeing fuckload of Ironmouse showing up in everything except her own channel. The first major EN corpo channel I see after scrolling for a while is...Kyo. FFS there are more Japanese 2-views in my leaf search results for an english term than any EN corpo. The fuck did Susan do this time?
>>36950797
>>36950707I have not seen anyone seethe over korone ever. not really. she's just the funny dog playing retro games
>>36950826
>>36950780reading comprehension
>>36950815>The fuck did Susan do this time?The usual shit, everything that's somehow a detriment for youtube streaming landscape just because she want to game her pretty sure already rough AI at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2aSSUjEd0Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2aSSUjEd0Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2aSSUjEd0AEN GOLD
>>36950759>30k new games
>>36950815The rest of the vtubing scene has largely moved on from caring about Hololive; they're doing their own thing outside of the walled garden
Furea is CUTE not cool and sexy. Don't get it twisted. CUTE not sexy
>>36950871Hello there, walled garden anon. it's been awhile.
>>36950669It's not even frame drop time yet
>>36950866>New vtuber model>Youtube subathon>Probably vtuber guests Jesas
>>36950845
>>36950869ok then. somehow her numbers were better playing ultra kaiju monster rancher
>>36950871The declining EN scene you mean?
>>36950866>subathon>on youtubeNot sure they quite understand.
>>36950869Eh still within her usual range
>>36950871>le walled gardedroru
>>36950707>>36950732>>36950751>>36950759Why can't you just accept that Korone is indeed reclining compared to other holos? Yeah sure, she's doing fine right now but you can't deny that she was a first army tier back when her clips were still popular and now she's been eclipsed by other holos
>>36950940
>>36950669I expect her to be out for 2 months. Health problems and Japan trip. At least her reason for going to Japan is work related and not for leisure.
>>36950985Why only 4?
>>36950929>>36950953how does a subathon even work on youtube
>>36950979>>36950891What's wrong with the term? HoloEN has no interaction with the rest of the scene anymore and hololive fans usually describe that as part of the appeal
>>36950984>Why can't you just accept that Korone is indeed reclining compared to other holosCan we see some numbers?Something simple like her median for a year or two. I want to see what point she reclined from. Go on, show us. Surely you remember how to argue with numbers, right? Charts n shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMPY080gTwProbably the gold for today? No idea how potent is IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT to Ohasuba numbers though.
>>36951026Either you start a new frame after 12h or RIP the archive
>>36951021What you mean? They have always been four and it has been working so well that they tried to do it again with all the following JP gens except HoloX
>>36950984Bitch show me her numbers before, prove your claim, she actually has more now than what she did before, and she's only "eclipsed" by a handful of other members
>>36951026People donate superchats instead of "subs" like on Twitch. It's misappropriating terminology from another platform to label a parallel concept, like Twitch streamers calling themselves vtubers.
>>36951067I guess the announcement is her delayed 3D live
>>36950979A wallet garden is worth nothing to a garden that is well keep under the scorching sun of summer or the frozen winds of winter. Especially in EN.
>>36950985Here's 5
>>36950985God pekora is so sexy…
>>36951119...what
>>36950943Yeah she got 30k once with that, but it's far from being the norm for her. It was a gigabuff giving her twice of what she usually gets. Her Splatoon 3 numbers were kinda grim and she got less than Fubuki for Rukimin
>>36951035Nothing's wrong with that, I'm just saying hello to you
>>36951120
>>36951067There's the shiraken splatoon today as well
>>36951119the fuck is wallet garden
>>36951177rushia's old holo garden
>>36951185what, she had a garden back in her holo days or sumthin?
>>36946904I would fight him irl like Warski and Tonka
Does Alban's fans call him tenchou?
>>36950572Forget about it, man. You're talking about western whores here. Watch them using Mori as their role model instead even though using someone without yab throughout their entire holo careers should be the more obvious choice.
>>36951119You took your meds anon?
>>36951331I don't think her career matters that much, i feel like Mori is just a placeholder to use when someone needs to recall the name of a holo that they supposedly look up to, which is equally as bad.
>>36950572Agree with all of them, but can be convinced to let go of the last one, since that's a recipe for mental breakdown.My oshi qualifies, but she said she won't join a corpo.
>>36946904Nigga Regis saying that to some random troll is peak retardation, not "yeeeee fuck em king!" moment. Asking for a stranger to fight you irl? Yeah man I'm gonna bring with me some gun and knive and turn up at your usual 3am stroll.
FUCK YOU DWARF
>>36951395The minor yabs are nothing compared to how popular her first songs were
>>36951405>A man with melanin wrote this
>>36951305Alban's fans are called Takaradachi, a portmanteau of takara and tomodachi. This name reflects Alban's love for treasure and how he thinks of his fans as his treasure.[19]Alban's membership is called Konbini Crew.[8]
>>36951431
>>36951435Fuck you, watch me remove every bit of melanin in my body, Michael Jackson-style
>>36951441Huh, i was curious since i though that people had made some more noise over Kiara's recent 3D antics and somehow this tag was filled with Alban clips
>>36947691sisters don't watch JP stars anymore
>>36951456
Things might be grim as fuck, but at least the porn is good
>>36951477
>>36951431>>36951456>>36951477BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
Why are elfriends like this...
>>36951510
>>36951506talking about porn, i found someone slotted in Gura's ring fit clip to an animated Gura porn kek
>>36951546
>>36951576man, this artist draw high quality pussy
What is flare doing when Noel goes on her constant trips to find shotas
>>36951555chumbuds always winning man
>>36951471Seems like his lore might be that he runs a convenience store? Seems plausible. It just means manager.
>>36947751why can't they just play on the Stars server? There's no point in making this new holopro server specifically for mixed gender shit it's dumb.
Which agency has the biggest chance of replacing holo in the future? VSPO?
>>36951477holy sex
FUCK YOU SNITCHING DWARF
>>36951641Japan? VSPO, yeah.International? Absolutely nobody as of now.If you only mean numbers, then Nijisanji and VShojo, obviously.
>>36951641Pippa. Not Phase Connect, just Pippa.
>>36951660YOU'LL NEVER HAVE ELVEN PUSSY YOU FUCKING DWARF
>>36951477Muuuuh dick, How does Pekora always manage to be the sexiest
>>36951718
>>36951477>Rushia's nips are censoredYeah this artist is secrectly gay
>>36951758
So allegedly Rio mentioned that there's gonna be a new MC server, A "Holopro" MC server
>>36950266Well either way it's pretty clear that they debuted tempiss instead of gen 3 this year, that's how we ended up with holo EN at their lowest point you can't deny this much.
>>36951783Read the fucking thread
>>36951780waterring is goated
>>36951679If she becomes too much of a threat Holo can just hire her
Isn't Ame starting her stream a lot earlier than usual today?
>>36947282more like Susan with her culling
>>36951783Shut up retard, we've already gone over this. Timestamp or go fuck yourself
>>36947859What if that's the plan?
>>36951890
>>36951890My POV btw
>>36951864Yes, because she have to make her attempt of overlapping gura with a same game more subtle
>>36951864Taking advantage of Clover's death to monopolize Fauna's stream window. Amecoin inclining to the moon.
>>36951918
>>36947139Congrats for playing the whole thread, here's your 18th (you)s
Someone has the list for the top holo covers and singles to reach 1m? the combined one
>>36951946Reminds me of the time that Rushia mostly monopolized her timeslot
>>36951966
>>36952006Reminds me of that time Aqua overlapped Rushia. Viciously.
>>36952041Miguel del Gato still remember that day with horror, even to this day
>>36951619There is no new server, it's bait
>>36952041>>36952058
>>36952025
>>36952077Out of all the Homos that the sisters would even watch, it wouldn't be Rios nor HomoJP
>>36950075Isn't most of his content collabs either with the girls,other homos or twitch e-celebs? Now he's doing a whole week offcollab meta culminating with that boring ironmouse holotalk ripoff, seems pretty calculated.>>36950269His content is not super number friendly but he does try to game the algorithm with shorts and clips.
>>36952086I can't believe that she did that to her
>>36952113To be fair, Rio and Magni had some kinda gay arc, no idea how that went though
>>36952135>roughly 140kganon...
>>36952077I literally check all the Homo general and no one mention anything about thatNot even /hlg/ freak outFake news
>>36952089
>>36952135>44.5cm>140kgWtf, are you fucking an actual female dwarf here?
>>36952192>>36952211I know
>>36952202There's 100% changes to minecraft coming since Gura mentioned it in her members streamWhat we don't know is if it will be """"holopro"""" server
>>36952205
>>36952252Anon it's gonna be EN-ID portal, shit's that been delayed for almost half a year now. that's the change
>>36952291Hey you never know. Gura didn't say what
>>36952240Why is it full of ESL inquiries
>>36952240What site is this? Also do it for Hololive too
>>36952157Ended pretty fast when everyone figured out that the fag doesn’t care about HomoJP
>>36951980Is /#/ the most retarded thread
>>36952240>is yugo a girl
>>36952291Can't they just go to the ID server through the JP one ?
>>36952273
>>36952327What a waste
>>36952350It’s the ceremonial aspect and the ensuing construction arc mate. It’s not about practicality
>>36952302She specifically said she was planning to build it after the change. Means she planned it already on the current server, a server that's connected to HoloJP server.HoloPro server is a new server, whether it's just a baitpost or not
>>36952319vidiq
>>36952350And miss out on doing some kino portal building?
>>36952327>Doesn’t do BFE>Doesn’t fujobait>Not a brotuber>ObnoxiousThe fact that Magni isn’t the runt will always shock me
>>36952399>KinoEN-JP portal arc was literally only exciting on JP side. Don’t think it will be much different with EN-ID
>>36952291Moona mentioned a few months back of talks about a Hololive global server (JP/ID/EN combined) but nothing really came out of it.
https://twitter.com/Nux_Taku/status/1590754071904145408Jun's gang?
>>36952359
>>36952417Thanks to his RMAnd well, leeching Twitch e-celeb
>>36952417He’s a bigger leech then the blue faggot, which explains why he doesn’t care about JP.
>>36952454Abayo nigga, but thanks, my dick's happy for this.
>>36952454
>>36951641As long as Towa exist VSPO will never surpass Hololive.
>>36952448>Pornhub reference>Gun>Loli spreading her legs>Nux taku himself
>>36952240>>36952392>niji query>all NijiCN>how hololive beat nijisanji>holo query >all hololive related (mostly JP)
>>36952448kek, sometimes I’m amazed with the amount of people doing things in the same direction COMPLETELY without any communication other than a simple mandate >destroy anyone against Jun and people Jun likesLike Shizuka Rin
>>36952460There's nothing indicating that he cares less than the others about StarsJP
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1591173928927592477?s=20&t=Oo08bHtTzB4LJSJhdciUPA10 MILLION DORYA
>>36951641>VSPONigga they're not even competing for same audience, they're competing with Niji's female audience.The fact that they reclined now that FPS are reclining in general already very telling about their viewer trends
>>36952504
>>36952540Grim...
>>36952542Deleted?
>>36952542>They've been doing their archive reps /here/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1939160/Shadows_Over_Loathing/I remember Gura liking the previous game, do you guys think Ina will play this one?
>>36952581>InaA-Anon…
>>36952551
>>36952252Here's your Minecraft change
Didn’t she put this out around debut?
>>36948610if you consider those homoevents hold their numbers in overlaps with giants like Gura it's pretty safe to say that this 6-8K homobox is not composed of dedicated hololive fanbase. Girls that were strongly pro-homo like BAE or Mori might have bigger overlap but even for them it's minority but homos do need regular hololive fans to go beyond 8K which is rare.
>>36952581>InaLet it go, takofriend... let your oshi be happy up there...
>>36952542Hey there intern kun! Not even a thank you for doing your damn job for you?>>36949023>>36949696
>>36952613Yes, during the initial bursts of hololive covers
>>36952613That’s the intern doing damage control, quickly searched another 500k song to fend off the favoritism criticisms for highlighting the Axel song hitting it
>>36952609
>>36946914Who the fuck made this soundpost
>>36952540>Excluding BFE faggotsCool. Still not watching Tempiss though
>>36952547>FPS will recline so much VSPO will be forced to do utawaku and 3D skits and streams to surviveI welcome this future.
>>36952713That already happened, but the intermediate stage first>Minecraft>MonHun>variety collabs
>>36952694
>>36952442That would actually be pretty cool, but with the lack of interest in Minecraft the server would probably end up only having builds from a few IDs + Haachama.
>>36952547i don't know why some of the holo fans who love to shit on niji has embraced vspo hereif you hate male-female interaction and shipping then vspo is easily worse than nijisanji
>>36952712>BFE bad>But gaybaiting is okay!Kill yourself faggot
>>36952574https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1591174309502144512They forgot to include #ProjectHOPE at first lmao
>>36952743That’s more like it, a good elf is a chained elf!
>>36948756more streams even in the 3-4K range would at least help to keep fans/tourists inside the holobox rather than checking indies or whatever so more of them would be aveilable for events. Imagine if Kiara could actually get a funnel in her timezone for once.
>>36952743
>>36952755
>>36952770Imagine this feverish dream of mine, regular continuous streams for a whole day
>>36952755And IRyS!
>>36952755I dont blame them actually. Even HoloEN fans forget there is Project Hope since no one has any idea why it exists!!
>>36952755Please understand, the intern was a bit to quick on the send button, just like with the 3D leak earlier
>>36947012How does 1000 people wake up one day and decide "nah I cant even tolerate seeing this bitch on my subscribe bar"
>>36952793
>>36952755kek>& IRySAnyway, INTERN, IF YOU HERE, JUST USE THE WORD>amazingIN THE NEXT TWO DAYS TO THANK THE THREADAlso: keep an eye on the charts and tables
>>36952755>tweet irys song>immediately forget her in the next tweet
>>36952755Pls undastand, the intern had to do this fast to damage control them giving a preferential to the boys with that account
>>36948756>>36952770It’s not about more stream but rather having someone present at any given timeMore stream does not help if they all clogged in the same few hour or spread out too much. The fact somehow most of EN girl managed to have a break AT THE SAME TIME is comically painfulPeople asked for Pekora because EN need someone who is present almost everyday just like Pekora
>>36952845She put up the frame for her new song. Yes her music is THAT bad
>>36952845They didn’t, it’s actually YouTube going around and either purging inactive accounts or just unsubbing people that didn’t sub hard enough
>>36952745Found it.For anyone who knows indohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb5m---j8KQ
>>36952747Because VSPO have no problems with Holos and playing with them, shocking isn't.
>>36952901>For anyone who knows indo
>>36952901Yeah, she said what the anon said here, it's basically JP-ID-EN in one server, without portal or shit.
>>36952845Her profile pic is ugly
>>36952747Anon, people couldn’t care less about Niji male-female interactions. All they care is that they don’t either try to bring it to Hololive or to preach is a moral failure to prefer Hololive to be free of it.
>>36952853
>SHE CUTE
>>36952988show the pussy, coward
>>36952845Sub purge + IRyS hasn't streamed in a while and her sub growth was never that good to begin with.
>>36953000
>>36953044>censored pussyDisgusting
>>36952941Makes sense why Gura wouldn't want to start her project until the update then (assuming she follows through).
>>36953057
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1591179367719346195EN is saved
>>36953072>assuming she follows through>Gura