/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Unicorns just keep winning.

>>36716170
Fauna is beating Mori???
Oh god how far have you fallen Mori

Mori doesn't even give a shit if her songs flop now, she gets the UMG money anyway and all she cares about now is her shitty roommate career (that and tweeting about Wan Piss 10 times a day). She doesn't even write the lyrics for her UMG Mori crap anymore, that's how little she invests in them. So much for being a "perfectionist".

>>36716170
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>>36716170
Why even stay in Hololive at this point? She doesn’t deserve these low views considering how hard she’s worked for Hololive and pushed the music side of things. The brand has no pull anymore.

>>36716170
oh boy

>>36716292
Pretty much. She sold out to UMG like how Kson sold out to Vshojo.
>Both are le freedom and own the haters bitches.
>Both reclined to irrelevance.

>>36716383
Reaching levels of cuckbeat cope I didn't even think was possible.
The girls who don't collab with m*les are doing fine.

>>36716432
>mumei
>doing fine

>>36716432
>The girls who don't collab with m*les are doing fine.
Nigga, please. Males has nothing to do with Mori's recline. This shit all started back in summer when she went AWOL too many times when she was doing those con guest appearances.

>>36716432
It never fails to amuse me just how hard Kronii self-sabotaged her career. She has all the tools to become the flagship of Council and pissed it all away by being simultaneously autistic AND a huge normalfag that hates vtubing.

So you going to make this thread how many more times? You can't get more than couple dozen replies before it falls off and I think this is the 4th time you have tried by now.

tbf fauna's cover was very cute

>>36716603
>cuckbeat actually keeps track of how many times someone slighted his fat hambeast oshi
Kinda cringe desu

>>36716881
Feeling called out, OP?

cuckbeats status?

Are you going to make this thread every day? Isn’t that kind of pathetic? There’s so many untapped veins of shitposting and yet you repeat the same one over and over.

OP status?

>>36716170
Hmmmm I wonder what could've caused this?

>>36716983
We know our oshi will thrive outside the company so we’ll have years of content. Hololive is dying. What will your ‘pure’ oshis do lmao? They’ll quickly marry and completely forget about your donations, support and entire existence because there’s no way any of them can get a job or do well without the dying brand next to their name.

>>36717088
I seriously can't tell anymore if these posts are bait or if cuckbeats truly are this fucking retarded and pathetic.

>>36717030
I assume desperately bumping it from page 10 for the rest of the night and making the exact same thread tomorrow. Art is unrelated I just liked it.

>>36717088
>Not a new IP
>>36717117
>Not a new IP
Stop replying to yourself dude.

>>36717088
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>36716383
>The brand has no pull anymore.
and whose fault could that be? The alcoholic wigger larping as a revolutionary, maybe? Nah, never?
The brand still has pull. The discerning viewers just chose to watch the ones who respect them and their wishes and ignore the rest.

But yes, Mori and her circus of cakes and manwhores inflected lasting damage on the brand. But the managers are allergic to money and worship the poz, so they hark on the lolidesign, who is piloted by the most popular talent in the brand, instead, for being a remnant of problematic JP culture.

>>36716292
>>36716423
u really think UMG pays if the music doesn't sell or gain any traction???
they're in this business for decades, they know what to write in the fine print
at most she'll get they early payout but if she can't deliver they (as in hololive) gotta cough out that fees.
hololive is just burning cash to keep that bitch now. negative returns tenfold

>>36717579
>hololive is just burning cash to keep that bitch now
I mean they won't fire her for low views when there are other holos with low views.

>>36717579
B-but.... Mori said that UMG was was satisfied with I'm Greedy's performance. She said it so it must be true!

>>36717779
I mean maybe it is not doing well on youtube but on other places.

>>36717156
>REPLYING TO REPLIES? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Do cuckbeats really?

>>36716170
The actual best song

>>36717838
Supposedly it's doing well on iTunes because that's what Japanese listeners like to use. It is definitely a song aimed at that audience, when to a Western crowd yhe reception has been that its just meh.

4Blood goes pretty hard tbf

Kiara is the only good musician in hololive desu

>>36717156
Thought I'd drop a new IP just to call you an absolute faggot and you should probably fuck off back to the next Mori stream Chat and seethe there.

>>36716187
getting tired of winning

>>36719875
No need to seethe so much, discordbro.

>>36716187
Do NOT look at the numbers on the homo collab cover!

>>36716170
She'll recover

>>36720823
Cope

>>36716170
holy shit mori what went wrong

>>36716170
Who would win:
> A UMG star child with 3m subscribers
Or
> a SOVL singer who doesn't even have 1m subs.
The answer will trigger deadcucks and anger homobeggars and woketards.

>>36727786
Maybe try and stop thinking about deadbeats all the time.

>>36720289
Yes we know fujos bot songs, they literally make guides on how to do it for their discords. It's a very sad display that this is what homos have to resort to to be relevant. That and leeching.

>>36716263
Fauna beating Mori has not been new thing for quite a while now.
Fauna beating Mori IN SINGING is top tier comedy.

>>36728436
Mori shouldn't have been Greedy.

>>36720289
Honestly under 500k this far along with THAT many of the girls (especially the newly crowned whore queen Ina) in it is pretty disappointing. Management hyped that up as much as they could and its already down to under 10k views a day.

>>36728188
He can't. Deadbeats and antis both have skeletons and both are compelled to obsess over Mori.

She's too busy spamming her roommate concerts to care
Remember, Hololive is just a side-gig to boost her real career.

>>36716170
>>36716187
>>36716432
mori is the only EN with an actual contract with UMG for a reason anon

>>36728490
Management did nothing and all of the girls in the cover are by definition tainted homo collabers whom nobody likes anymore so how come the song got so many views?

>>36717030
has a lot of free time since gura doesn't stream
>>36717117
you're clearly replying to yourself but it's true that Mori does have a career outside of hololive

>>36719403
>k-pop strat
sister please

The absolute anal anguish on this board whenever Mori does/doesn't do something. Where any action taken by any other vtuber will be compared to Mori. /vt/ truly is a Deadbeat board.

>>36719403
I liked the cover, Ike is probably the best metal vtuber, and I'm not a niji fan

>>36728907
And that reason is only gonna diminish over time

>>36727786
The chicken with the funny voice?

Axel/Ina's Bad Ending is mogging all of them. Unitychads, we keep winning

>>36716432
Post the full thing, faggot

>>36731158
Fuck yeah brother!

>>36716187
You're mentally ill, you aren't winning in anything

>>36716383
>leave hololive because you can't leech off of it anymore, Cali!
Holy shit I can believe you're a deadbeat

>>36731173
>holoen avg ccv besides gura is under 10k now
What the fuck. I don't watch EN shit, but that's low. Was it always this low? How does Mori even have 2mi subs.

>>36728907
>mori is the only EN with an actual contract with UMG for a reason anon
despite what your mother might have told you giving good blowjobs isn't a valid reason for success

>>36731020
>>36731546
she's also the EN with the most total views and you crying won't change that

>>36731894
Old views don't mean shit if you can only get a fraction of it nowadays

>>36731500
No back in january mori had gura current numbers. Gura was usually 20k and kronii was like 8k to 10k.
While I would i would like to blame it on tempus. Most of the decline was all the yabs and all the girls spending most of this year not streaming to off collab offline or slowly do their projects.

>>36732013
you can look on holostats and you'll see that she's the EN with also the most views on the last 7 and 30 days periods. she's also top 5 and top 6 on those categories considering the JPs as well. did I mention that she has an album next month?

>>36731173
Should add phase connect as well

>>36732176
mori also used to be a consist streamer

>>36732176
>No back in january mori had gura current numbers
anon everybody knows this is not true

>>36716292
Uhh record labels sort of care about the success of their talents… i feel like that should go without saying… if mori isn’t successful then they have no reason to keep her around

>>36733128
sir you're not allowed to make sense or point obvious things here

>>36728907
yeah, reason being that she put it up as her 'wish' for million subs and cover had to grovel to UMG
I would not be surprised if cover actually loses money on this deal and it's going to lapse after first year.

>>36733321
>yeah, reason being that she put it up as her 'wish' for million subs and cover had to grovel to UMG
source?

>>36733321
are you actually trying to imply that hololive is paying to have their talent on this contract?

>>36717579
>u
Anyone that types like this is normally ignored, but once you sign a CONTRACT you're already getting a guaranteed amount of $x just for the contract alone.

>>36733389
Watch streams

>>36733699
ok, can you link me the one when that is said?

>>36728907
trying to get people to understand that Mori releasing an original song is a way more frequent event then Fauna or even Kiara uploading a cover and that's why viewership like this happens

>>36733128
Record labels are more insidious, they have no qualms on staging a drug overdose death just to boost record sales

>>36733482
Which you have to pay back to the label before you can claim any royalties that is

>>36716187
stop using my oshi for unicuck retardedness

>>36734113
I too respond to failures by paying for a second album, 3 animated MVs and looking at doubling capacity for the next concert.

>>36719403
What's the actual term for zoomer metal?

>>36734182
Yeah and all of that must be paid back to the label so Mori better hope she's not a failure

>>36734512
but that's the thing anon. these deals are not paid in advance with goodwill and no research. much like banks no label is going to give any retard an amount of money if they themselves don't expect to get it back

>>36717088
If June Lovejoy can thrive in JAV then so can Mori!

>>36720289
Yes I know Ina was enough to give your homokek some views
What about axel's cover? The last one I mean

>>36717779
>>36717579
>>36716292
UMG doesnt give anyone money, they promote and represent you in exchange for taking most of your money. At best she's getting 25% and more likely she's getting 10% of the revenue
they're doing fuck all to promote her so they probably are happy to just collect free money from her.
It's a trap for insecure newbies who want to feel like a REAL STAR so they give away all their earnings to a big label just so they can feel more legitimate

>>36719772
No

>>36733044
I dont mean her upper end 40k karaoke. But mori was 10k to 13k on a lot of streams before the yabs.

4Blood is really good

>>36731158
There is also Fubuki’s who is unity prime and her cover is doing great

>>36736076
As I said, Mori will eventually become worth more to UMG dead than alive, it's why so many musicians die young, look up the prince effect

>>36716170
deadbeats... your reps pls
youre making 2M chuuba look bad

>>36729222
Numbers are numbers anon.
I´m fucking seething that Cover hasn´t yoinked a male Chubba that does rock.

>>36728436
>Fauna beating Mori IN SINGING is top tier comedy.
kek my sides

stop fking advertise moris despair, itll rise them saviorfaggots

>>36716383
>The brand has no pull anymore.
Fuck you Sui-chan concert break new record and she build her own reputation from the ground up with the company

Can't she make a better thumbnail? Both Fauna and Kiara used artworks while Mori used a.. 3d model screenshot. The "I'm Greedy" logo isn't even good

>>36717088
She would never get any contract without holo as middleman. Name in the contract is Mori, which belong to holo, I checked it on their website. Don't overestimate your cringe rap, fatso

>>36717838
Her raps flopped hard in tiktok operation lmao. Their comments are gold

Let's ignore that her myth collab song was doing well like Kiara's Do U video not that long ago. She's not doing well on every release because she releases too much music each month that the audience has become more selective. That's more Mori's fault by not just releasing bangers when she has a good idea for a song instead of just trying to fill a music quota.

>>36733416
i think cover pitched mori as a talent that could sell albums on japan and the west and mg aquired her as an asset after seeing the numbers, sadly or gladly i should say mori's popularity is miniscule and cuckbeats leaving her shit songs on repeat on spotify only gets you so far.

>>36716170
Well yeah. When UMJ says "make an album or die", you have to shit out 10 songs in four months. Which is about 2-3x what she's used to doing. Each song ain't lovingly crafted, they're filler garbage to pad out a CD.

Her audience was pulled by those higher quality tracks, so they're understandably not enjoying the new low effort, low quality shit. Not to mention this stuff ain't even 100% Mori no more - UMJ had Wavvy writing the JP lyrics and Mori didn't get them back until Hella late.

And she's gonna have to do it again in Spring, too. I cannot wait for her to renegotiate her contract to something less soul crushing - UMJ feels like they're wringing her dry of any and all creative juice. No wonder she's having fun with angel aces - they're the only person she has any freedom with.

>>36716492
Also collabing with homos

>>36731173
Wow, StarsEN are mogging most of NijiEN, Impressive, very nice. Good job Vesper and Dez, keep it up. The others need to improve, but room for improvement is always ok.

>>36716187
Fpbp

>>36728907
>Deadbeats keep flaunting the UMG deal
>Need to have the backup of a major record label to get a concert
>Suzy can get a concert without the backup of a major record label
>Still have freedom
>Also have her side gig as Midnight Grand Orchestra under the Toys Factory label
>Second concert next year at Tokyo Garden, also without the backup of a major record label
So what's really impressive about the UMG deal again?
Sure, the clout from getting associated with UMG is impressive, but in reality does it benefit Mori that much aside from getting to flaunt UMG's name?

>>36716187
Cheers

>>36716187
How long will they keep winning?

>>36756173
Anon, I am talking about in other streaming platforms.

>mori releases one (1) song that doesn't do as well as her other bangers
>this keeps the schizos on /vt/ entertained for weeks
Only one of those people has a UMG deal.

>>36758116
She is collabed with homos before. Why would that be a problem now?

>>36716170
shit that's kind of low for an original

>>36758116
She has being collab with homo for 2 years this isnt the problem

>>36758936
Connections in the industry for her RM.

>>36765359
>bangers

>>36734168
yeah Pekora is one of the least unity holos

>>36728907
> he thinks having a label is a "win"
> he doesn't know about Tokino "Victor" Sora

This is the power of the unicorns? Wow kind of pathetic

>>36767938
Nta, but Suisei can pull Ayase from Yoasobi and Kagerou Project's music producer for her 2nd album without a label backing her

>>36716170
Oh no did we get too much cock unicucks!?

>>36765359
Her current songs sucks compare to her older ones

>>36716492
If you think niggas don't care about the male collabs you're crazy. Even the JPs who collabed with males, most of them are declining. Save like Fubuki and Towa

>>36770376
So why is it a problem now and not year ago?

>>36765359
>Reaper vs Sheep (Mori version)
750k
>Scuffed up Age(original)
600k
>The World's Continuation(cover)
515k
>Let's End The World (original 2months+)
1.2m
>Kamouflage(original 3months+)
680k

The last song that pulled numbers you'd expect from Mori is Mera Mera

>>36770599
You should go compare the number of some recent songs of other holos released since july to older ones. Everyone got hit hard by the algorithm change aside a handful of songs.

>>36770907
I mean yes, shortly after Mera Mera released Youtube changed something in how songs work.
Which is why we compare current songs, and in the current climate songs perform very differently, see for example Kiara's Fever Night and DO U
Though Fever Night had a lot of fuckery around the release with going over 200k and getting culled to under it like 5 times

>>36768714
LOL
RUMAO even.

>>36768714
>>36770599
LOL
RUMAO even.

>>36771246
Cool what's the most viewed HoloEN song again?

>>36770907
>>36771150
This cope doesn't work when you realize that in the meantime, we got Treasure box who absolutely blew up.

>>36771428
LOL
RUMAO even.

>>36765518
>>36766529
Tempus collabs are absolutely contributing to Mori's decline. Her JP homo collab arc was very brief and caused no real harm to EN because the JP homos respect Hololive. Tempus however is taking a fucking wrecking ball to EN and her collabs with them help enable the destruction. That shit doesn't go unnoticed.

>>36768714
>8 talents
>not even 500k
ngmi

>>36746527
Musicians die young because they do drugs, lack self control, and then spiral into egotrip careers where the lack of self control spirals them further out of control.
Some of them do make it to 60 and 70, its just rare when most die of drug overdoses.

Old Mori music good(guh, red, bully)
New Mori music bad

>>36771612
>24 vs one Mori
Nice looking EN there retard

>>36771428
>Can't even beat Kiara anymore

I have never listened to any of Mori's songs other than the initial ones from around debut (basically just Please RIP, Deadbeats and Live Again). I thought they were fine but not really my thing. Seeing how schizos react to heir music makes me kinda glad I never got into it in the first place.

>>36771536
"Except for a handful". The high budget coomer video that went with it managed to make it go viral, you cant do that with every song. There is always going to be a few that manage to pop out, but a fuckton of other songs came out during that time that are getting less than half the views they normally would get.

>>36772868
Out of all ENs mori was the coomer choice early on
>Rap, but with a big tidy anime goth?
>So whacky!

>>36772868
Any day now Mori will get mainstream mass radio play and become an instant TikTok meme like treasure box.
Wait I forgot, she already is a TikTok meme, the zoomers clown on her in her comments for being a racist.

>>36716170
>Getting yukichi I love cheese
Wtf did you expect. It's not even about the unicorn, that song just sucks

>>36773143
She does get radio play in japan, not sure what you are going on with that. Also
>aligning yourself with tiktok zoomer comments
Holy shit you need to remove yourself

>>36773231
Get fucked cuckbeat. Your shit oshi unites people from all walks of life into collectively hating her. Racists and non racists alike, that's hos shit she is.
>She does get radio play in japan, not sure what you are going on with that.
>Source: I made it the fuck up.

>>36773268
Holy shit you are pathetic. Ignoring reality just because a pink women lives in your mind 24/7 eating away at it until you finally end it.

>>36773143
>Getting viral on TikTok
Senzawa....
https://youtu.be/dWNvlyycWzQ

>>36773380
>No proof of radio play posted whatsoever
I can go on TikTok right now and see her getting shit on relentlessly, she's also relentlessly shit on by people on this website. Please post proof contradicting my claims, faggot.

>>36771844
>Anal devastation after cope
KEK

>>36773143
>Yo this shit is fire on mute
>mfw the only thing thats holding both Mori and DD down to go full on mainstream is a bunch of uneducated teenagers with nests for hair and talks in a backwards vocabulary

>>36716263
Is this what happens when yu chase after the normalfag audience?

>>36717088
Mori will get Kson'd. Lots of virtual signaling clout as soon as she leaves, but fade into irrelevancy in a few months

>>36716170
Go Fauna go

>>36716187
when will they learn?

>>36716170
oof

>>36716187