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Holos playing Nikke when?
>>36770016Numbers are gay and so are (You)s
>>36770016Recent clip numbers>>36716625>>36716643>>36716689>>36716723>>36716748
>>36769902I never liked Lap+'s main design. The oversized sleeves and the split coat make for a lot of robotic 90 degree angles on her petit design. Not a fan of the overly fat horns either since they remind me of those infected snail eyestalks
my oshi is reclining and inflation is crazy and my salary is stagnant and i want to kms and i want a fucking gf and my life is fucking over and i still haven't paid rent and i'm still on fucking 4chan for some god knows what reason and idk
>>36770016Cute Chloe swimsuit art
This guy's schedule would fit perfectly into HoloEN. What are you waiting for Yagoo?
>Already thread about Pekora trialLmao
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *>59,265: Mio (Hololive)>50,428: Botan (Hololive)>23,597: Choco (Hololive)>23,136: Koyori (Hololive)>19,284: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>18,956: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>15,399: Mito (Nijisanji)>14,980: Fubuki (Hololive)>14,632: Mio (Hololive)>14,179: Zeta (Hololive)>13,131: Iroha (Hololive)>13,100: Nene (Hololive)>12,934: Noel (Hololive)
>>36769499From what I understand it's because tokopedia does not accept preorders more than 90 days in advance. You can compare it to Moona's recent merch drop which is made to order but isn't available yet on tokopediahttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/moonahoshinova_123thou
>>36770069it's time anon
>>36770080>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi>PER COMPANY7x: Hololive>PER STREAMER3x: Pekora2x: Suisei1x: Marine, Mio>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY202x: Hololive96x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER48x: Pekora20x: Miko17x: Aqua, Kuzuha16x: Salome14x: Nijisanji13x: Subaru10x: Marine7x: Suisei6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya5x: Fuwa, Gura4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Koyori, Mayuzumi, Mel2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
>>36770031now THIS is advertisement!
Look at my cute blonde wife
>only 1,940 WAITING>2 hours leftyeah this trial stream will be sub 40k
>>36770016the damaged art for this was really hot
>>36770069Sounds like you need...A New Start.Move back home, go to commercial trucking school, become a trucker, roam the country and get a wife in 4 different cities.
All I'm gathering from this is that Kronii needs to collab with her gen more and not some shitty fucking game like We Were there that she's playing with Mumei again this week. I feel like she could bounce back if she did. She straight up has the least amount of 1 on 1's across the board
>>36770112I'm sick of pekolewds
>>36770069Get yourself a rope or do picrel
list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeariplaces to end up for these girls include>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri
>>36770069I knew hoomans were menhera but not this menhera
>>36770069Your gf is waiting for you in another world anon.
>>36770069Pay your rent you retard>>36770198The fanbase reflects the oshi
>>36770156Kronii is the Gura of Council except Council is only 4 people so it's even more noticeable
>>36770223But gura isnt an on stream whore like kronii who openly makes more effort for the males than her gen mates
>>36770187>places to end up for these girls includeyou can update this with the jewtuber EN girl generation
Oh no no nousagibro.. This stream is not looking good
>only 2k waitingKiara's Romeo and Juliet stream already had a bigger waiting room at this point
>>36770288Is this the new meme, any sub 100k stream by pekora is a failure?
>>36770156blame mumei for the we were here shit, they're playing it trying to recapture the magic of the first stream over a fucking year ago but they don't realize the ship is already dead
don't reply to the samefag, you're gonna catch something
Foobs doing gacha. Potential gold?
>>36770334he's trying really hard pls anderstand
>>36770069That's grim
>>36770326>2k waiting while 2 hours leftit will be sub 30k and considered failure for meme stream
>>36770331The shop isn't dead. Despite Fauna interacting with Mumei a hell of a lot more it's still not dead. It's the most alive council ship at this point through design aesthetics alone
>>36770377>It's the most alive council ship at this point through design aesthetics aloneExplain this to me because I don't get it
what? nothing is working and now they resort to larping as nousagi?
>>36770364And you'll rope yourself if it breaks 30k ogey?
>>36770331Despite how much /vt/ hates the ship it's nowhere near dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln2OCUGSYk4
>>36770399I will laugh because she couldn't reach 40k
>first astel with haachama>now axel with mister KoroProud of my boys
>>36770401>/inf/ hates it>/who/ hates it>there's almost no kromei schizos here compared to the ones for more popular ships like amesame who's the target audience?
>>36770405Oh I saw this earlier but couldn't be arsed to watch 25 minutos of Astel talking. Does he say anything interesting?
>ESL>obvious SamefaggingWhy are seaniggers like this?
>>36770405Holo and Niji are still in the top echelon of streamers in general, so this is irrelevant
this fucking thread is giving me brain damage
I'm readying my Laplus 5k DORYAAAA postsShe'll hit the cripple tally any moment now
>>36770473they're low IQ enough to actually think that their samefagging on cooldown isn't really fucking obvious
>>36770458Actual women and /u/ fags love kromei due to the dynamic
I bet my balls Peko hits 50k. Mark it down.
>>36770476Check out /hlgg/ if you want a different sort of brainrot, it's somehow worse there.
>>36770458Twitter
>>36770338Yes. She's stacking buffs and catching Pekora funnel. This will do serious numbers.
>>36770458unironically the twitter fanartists and fucking women
>>36770462Iluna really cemented itself as 3views. Fucking grim.
>>36770462OOOFFFF
>>36770417anon, hulking is not laughing. It's ok to accept that you cry on the regular.
>enters moona stream>the fucking owl is still awakeah yes the average college student
>REN, NO!Wait, what?Also: these tags, are they automatic?
>>36770462Ollie’s stream is shitting itself
>>36770462>>36770546Do you guys think Anykara factored in their predicted growth data for 2023 the fact that Iluna would be 3 views before the end of 2022, or did they believe Iluna would be at least noctyx tier?
>>36770394good strat desu. chumbuds and nousagis are the easiest fanbases to bait in this thread
>>36770469Haven't gotten that far into it yet. But it's a mix of doom and hope. Like, vtubing now is harder due to the competition, making it harder to break into the market since it's hard to stand out. This might lead to less vtubers being around due to the audience losing interest, which in turn will boost those who can has that stand out personality.Then he talks about 3D tech and that it will be important to take the next step, that he's asked management about stuff and got the response that "It can't be done, but maybe in a couple of years." And he goes with a approach of, if tech doesn't improve quickly enough the decline of vtubers will happen due to the lack of "new" things.That's about the first 5 minutes.
>>3677051483k, beating the PekoMari 1block stream. No less than that.
>>36770275So you agree she is an offstream whore. With how much time she doesn't stream, she cucks cumkek even than Kronii cucks Kronies
>>36770640/#/ believe they would atleast be noxtyx tier, 2-3k average vtubers with Ren maybe at 5k. Tempus was the one getting the 3view predictions. Funny how that went kek.
>>36770275>>36770723>whoreMeretrix
>>36770490rip, got cucked by nene and luna starting
>>36770743grim
nene's doing better than i expected desu
>>36770405Can someone give me a qrd?
>>36770469> Many vtuber companies have come and go> Believes that character-type vtubers are the future, gives Salome as an example> Shorts are great for subs but earn you little money> Wonders why there aren't many group fanworks of holostars> Fan of Chronoir and Kaname in particular> Praises niji for providing "IF" stories
>>36770809what is an "IF" story?
>>36770778人生初 is always a good boost
>>36770640Anycolor can just cut them off like how they did the india, indonesia and korea branch since like 90% of their vtubers they are disposable.
>>36770723nice english!
>>36770864But they predicted growth by pumping out more waves every few months. If they are all going to end up like Iluna then their growth numbers can't be sustained
>>36770743She's probably one of the few Holo JPs that have reclined instead of inclining
>>36770405>>36770469OK I watched it at 2x speed. His main points:1. Vtubers should be more like anime characters come to life than humans with an avatar to incline. Cited Salome. Fairly common refrain in this thread when we aren't timelooping.2. Thinks long streams are bad for vtubers.3. Youtube Shorts earnings make no money.4. Thinks vtubers are consumable, like anime or manga, and that people will move on when one quits or retires (I think this is his own cynicism speaking frankly)5. Said a bunch of stuff about his murder mystery and him "leaving" and stuff, didn't understand any of this.6. Think Holostars lacks derivative works about their relationships, and thinks it's bad they couldn't inspire those. Wants to analyze his popular relationships (friendships? ship ships?) using data and popularity polls to steer his future content. Cites Chronoir7. Talks about Aruran's design change, and the kaigai comments unhappy about it, and I think was saying it's an example of surface-level attachment to Stars on a superficial level without engaging in the content/relationships. Didn't fully understand this part. 8. Talks about kayfabe, like his fake age and Aruran's dimensional travel stuff. 9. Re-emphasizes derivative works and what-if stories, obviously thinks it's key to Holostars inclining. Talks about outside relationships.I might have missed some stuff or context because I don't actually watch Stars very often. Anyway, sort of interesting.
>>36770919>can't be sustainedHow so? Nijisanji doesnt pay them so it cost them little to no money having them onboard while they get 50-70% of all income they are getting from merch and superchats.
>>36770970Growth anon, growth.
>>36770951>2. Thinks long streams are bad for vtubers.huh?
>>36770458Do you seriously think not just 4Chan but 4Chan splits that average maybe 40-50 IPs are a good sanple of the general fanbase? If 4Chan was representative of the Hololive fandom Ame would be a 30k average streamer
>>36770951>I think was saying it's an example of surface-level attachment to StarsThats retarded because the unhappiness comes from the fact that aruran had one of the more unique designs/concepts which was old guy but they instead turned him into what 90% of the stars are.
>>36770031Tencent game, not a high chance.
>>36770985if youre a content creator on youtube you basically have to abide by youtuber meta instead of streaming meta.Im surprised # talks so little about it.
>>36770809>"IF" stories>what is an "IF" story?“Old Marine”, “Olivia”, non canon interpretations of their characters. >>36770951>Think Holostars lacks derivative works about their relationshipsThey don’t have an audience big enough for people to pay attention to that.
>>36771034how many times do we have to say thisTencent is fine with Hololive
>>36770982they can always rely on getting another salome or kuzuha using minmax method since as i said it almost cost them nothing to get these people.
>>36770462>4+hrs>6min
>>36770985Sorry, that one was a bit short, I was taking notes as I watched. It was part of a larger point about his platonic ideal of vtubers. He thinks they should be characters, like NPCs, not like humans. He thinks long streams are harder to sustain as a character, and make the vtubers more "human". Human = bad. I'm not sure I'm doing his thoughts full justice actually, it was obviously pretty well thought-out on his part. He's been pondering shit. Here's the timestamp for full context on his point:https://youtu.be/ln2OCUGSYk4?t=425
>>36771053>it almost cost them nothing to get these peopletalent does not grow on trees, if it was that easy they would have done it more than twice.
>>36771051>Tencent is fine with HololiveDont know about that since they had a management shakeup recently i think and theyre putting more pro ccp guys in.
Stupid Nene
>>36771053In over a hundred vtubers plus VTA they’ve managed it twice and wasn’t Kuzuha a already successful indie they poached?
>>36771012I think that's what he meant by surface level attachment. His point is that real fans should know that aruran's personality on stream doesn't match with his old guy avatar. Kaigainiki should see beyond the unique avatar and know what model suits aruran better.
>>36771053Salome has reclined and cant eveb fight against holo 2nd tier. And on a brand level she hasnt done anything for herself or niji. They can minmax another one to fumble the bag again.
Did that Uncle Roger character receive any backlash from appearing in a hololive stream?
>>36771053Their projected growth can't be sustained with 1 Salome. And Salome was a lightning in a bottle that won't happen again.VTA is a failure, Luxiem and Noctyx are plateauing/reclining, Iluna is 3view
>>36770809>Wonders why there aren't many group fanworks of holostarsHe’s not talking about group fanworks but derivative or AU fanworks. The big Myth animation that was released a couple of days is an example of what type of fanwork Astel wants to see for holostars
>>36771114nope, why? its a paid cameo.
Is it really that bad to have sex with your oshi?
>>36771100>successful indiehe was relatively successful like how notvesper was in the indies.
>>36771053Making your company into a disposable vtuber mulching machine that chews up talents and spits them out with no support isn't conducive to generating big stars. Big stars need support or they might just die out. Plus, big star talent doesn't join companies that thinks of them as replaceable cogs in a machine to be replaced within a few months.
>>36771116Her popularity sure feels like lightning. Gone in a flash.
>>36771125I was just thinking about the video that got shared around yesterday where he cucked out because he collabed with a taiwanese creator and did a apology for that
>>36771109>I think that's what he meant by surface level attachmentbut that would make his point even more retarded since he said that vtubers should be like anime characters and one of the biggest sins of an anime character is when his unique design/circumstance gets changed into a regular trope one.
>>36771127Not really, i would say that you are obligated to do it
>>36771133>Making your company into a disposable vtuber mulching machine that chews up talents and spits them out with no support isn't conducive to generating big starsTell that to the music, tv and movie industry.
la+ at sub 4k
>>36770951Point five is about the lore that astel has been autistically working on for the past three years. His character setting is an alien who crashed on earth and his goal is to recover his missing memories and go back and reunite with his old crewmates (both of which are related to the murder mystery trpg he just released)
>>36771190Polka of Holox
>>36771190Roboco of holox
>>36771151That video had so little views relative to his fame and he's still getting millions of views regularly so it either didn't catch on or his audience doesn't care. A good deal of SEA work closely with and generally lean neutral or positive on China
>>36771164Hey, good anime characters need a suitable VA, same with vtubers. If you don't pair them well fags will complain, just like the CSM anime makima fiasco.
>>36771190the me of holox
>>36771116And they can always discard them to the retirement area once their usefulness goes to 0 without any significant loss.
>>36771173im a tempus member btw
any new /news/?
>>36770743Solo VALORANT is repetitive. La+'s reactions are the only interesting part of the stream.
>>36771286I'm proud of the stars
>nene 9kOh hey, not bad for FF14
>>36771236I thought aruran va fit his older model well.
Pekora will now overlap fubuki
>>36771305that's really fucing good actually
>>36771291is La+ having any tournament?I think she is sapmming Valo too much
>>36771305>ff14how the fuck? isnt that numbers poison that can turn you into 3views?
>>36771201But thats him forcing lore versus letting it naturally develope kills any kind of community backing. Its the same vein of autism that omegashit's lore will always be laughed at by the girls. Plenty of them changed their bio from the forced lore.
>>36771286https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7MWMtgGvJQSolar eclipse viewing with vtubers brought by the Taipei Planetarium.5k and rising.It's the new Taiwanese vtuber group, they've been getting ~2k lately.
>>3677051480k.
>>36771357first stream
>>36771305gen5 schizo doko? 9k on hyper debuff game
https://youtu.be/tyggWuWISDY2nd year anniversary and only 201 views on the VOD. She finally got membership opened...
>>36771371>Lunar eclipse i meant
>>36771136People expected a punchline because she looked like an elaborate joke (name, stream content), but once the 1 million milestone was achieved and nothing happened, they lost interest. The rest where in denial and kept hanging around until she bleed out into 4viewsIt will be very hard to replicate it again
>>36771341only thing coming up is cr cup. she's not in the roster. her rm's fav artist nachoneko is on a team though
>>36771357Only for continued exposure. Nene is also one of the best Holo to experience new games. She's as clueless as the average viewer.
>>36771357Only if you keep playing it.
>>36771371Blood Moon tonight,anyone making curse?
>>36770071He joined Niji, he's forever blacklisted
>>36771357idk if it's because of her first time playing, or she's actually entertaining to watch? 10k soon
>>36771392Talk about dedication.
>>36771392>RubyI wouldnt worry about money when i comes to he since she's basically in the same circumstance as reine.
Amyone know how long it took from their videos being privated in the VTA channel to their debut in Ranunculus and Voltaction? I've been heard rumors a while ago that the new batch might not debut in niji.
>>36771423Luna hime...
>>36771253You are a dense nigga for sure. Your whole argument relies on the assumption that there is an infinite supply of Salami tier talents lying around and Niji can get a new one every year. There aren't. The niji method is a fucking failure mate.
>>36771326Can't beat the Pecock at her own game after all.
>>36771449Is it the same rumors that said that they might debut in that Chinese group affiliated with niji?
>>36771386probably dead after seeing yesterday's number
>>36771449Don't know, just hope they don't fuck up Roco.
>>36771286yeah, me
76 mins. 3k waiting 80k-95k stream
>>36771357Nene is the star of gen 5
>>36771036Because that point had been made a long time ago and is frankly non-controversial to shitpost.
>>36771475only reason why they got that number because it was lamy samefagging 50k times./become/ is now a disease that we need to eradicate before it goes out of control.
>>36771449Wasn't it the case that previous graduates didn't get their videos privated which is why people think these ones left niji
>>36771151It's John Cena / NBA tier. Everybody understands you have to kowtow to Beijing superficially when they start acting up to shut them up. Its just face saving act for everybody, nobody believes he actually regrets collabing with the other comedian who ran afoul of the CCP. Unless he goes full tankie as part of his act everyone understands its just business.
>>36771371redpill me on taiwanese women anons
>>36771449JP7
>>36771506but i still see people saying that vtubers should stream everyday instead of the youtuber meta of releasing stuff (in this case streams) every other day.
>>36771476JP7
>>36771036>you basically have to abide by youtuber meta instead of streaming meta.That depends on what you’re optimizing for. If your goal is subs growth and ad revenue, sure but Holos are completely sidestepping that for merch and sponsorship revenue. Kiara was lamenting the other day the fact her growth stagnated (likely taking about her subs) and how she’s willing to target even the “normie” (her words) audience knowing about the potential drawback that would bring. That’s dumb as fuck. She has 1.43M subs right now, that’s even more than Subaru. The one thing she definitely doesn’t need is more people clicking the subscribe button never to watch her again. If Kiara was smart she would start targeting the existing 50k or so people ALREADY watching HoloEN in a regular basis. There is this thing that is common sense in business: Customer Retention Marketing vs. Customer Acquisition Marketing>Acquiring a new customer can cost five times more than retaining an existing customerThis applies to the “economy of attention” as well. All this talk about “following the content creator meta” is correct for individual content creators but not for the ones on Hololive. There is even a success case on Hololive itself proving that>MioMio missed the biggest growth period of Hololive for being the sacrificial lamb to atone for Cover sins with Capcom.It looked like her would follow Roboco footsteps on having one of the least name recognitions of all of the branch (with her GAMERS mates: Fubuki, Korone, Okayu being some of the ones with the highest name recognition). She turned that boat around with one simple trick (scientists hate her!): creating content that engages the rest of the box. Three in particular>the series of morning streams waking them up on Golden Week >the Tarot readings>organizing the SportsFesAfter Kiara sank Takamori she’s pretty much an individual streamer that happens to be signed with Hololive. Maybe due to her time zone, maybe due to her unwillingness to sacrifice her sleep schedule for collabs (anons might be kidding about that, could be real too), the truth is she’s pretty much a one woman show set apart from Hololive and even HoloEN. She could EASILY grow her brand and attract some of the already existing audience simply by making an effort to embed herself into the box a little more. Targeting the general audience would be her undoing and going on Eurovision would put the same “freak” holofote over Hololive as it put on that bearded dude that dressed like a woman (Conchita?) a couple of years ago. Thanks for watching this video, if you want more click the subscribe button and don’t forget to click the little bell or angry goats will headbutt you in your sleep. This rant was sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends, one of the biggest mobile role-playing games of 2019 and it's totally free! Currently almost 10 million users have joined Raid over the last six months, and it's one of the most impressive games in its class with detailed models, environments and smooth 60 frames per second animations! All the champions in the game can be customized with unique gear that changes your strategic buffs and abilities!
>>36770951>OK I watched it at 2x speed. His main points:>1. Vtubers should be more like anime characters come to life than humans with an avatar to incline. Cited Salome. Fairly common refrain in this thread when we aren't timelooping.Pretty obvious even before Salami debuted. Pekora, Marine, Migo, FBK, Korone and even the late Oyabun and the OG 4 Kings did this. >2. Thinks long streams are bad for vtubers.Eh, I'll agree to this to some extent. CCV is only one stat out of many that you need to be successful. Streaming too long might in fact affect VOD views since "catching up" on past streams becomes daunting if your inaundated with multiple 6-8 hour streams. Hence why stream highlight compilations on YT are a thing for Twitch streamers. >3. Youtube Shorts earnings make no money.Wasn't YouTube supposedly fixing this?>4. Thinks vtubers are consumable, like anime or manga, and that people will move on when one quits or retires (I think this is his own cynicism speaking frankly)Not completely off base. (e.g. Kson even prior to joining VS, Gibara, and Miguelgato). People need to realize that the vtuber itself is neither the avatar nor the person behind it. The avatar is the body and the streamer is the one who breathes life into the character but that doesn't necessarily mean that the streamer is the vtuber. Kson is not Coco, regardless of how many references she wants to throw. Mikecat can never again be Rushia. It's why I hold holos like Korone, Miko, Pekora and Senchou in such high regard. Hell, Myth was probably at its best when they stuck to that mentality. Nowadays, the EN vtuber sphere is so hung up on trying to make vtubers as nothing more than streamers with avatars that they've completely lost the plot. I thank God everyday that Gura is the top dog of EN because if Mori had been the most subscribed member of Myth, everything would've gone to hell alot sooner and might be even worse than it is now.>6. Think Holostars lacks derivative works about their relationships, and thinks it's bad they couldn't inspire those. Wants to analyze his popular relationships (friendships? ship ships?) using data and popularity polls to steer his future content. Cites ChronoirI'm assuming this is about the lack of fanworks like art, games, and other animated videos? To be fair, even though they do deserve a good chunk of the blame for not being good enough to attract audiences that would put in the work like that, it's not all on them. Sometimes, luck is also a big factor.Overall, I think Astel brings up some interesting points. It's also nice to know that some chuubas do think like we do in terms of what actually should a vtuber be.
>>36771326FBK gold it is.
>>36771371>Solar eclipse viewing with vtubers brought by the Taipei Planetarium.>Solar EclipseAnon your astronomy reps.
>>36771509Nope Voltaction videos were privated a bit before joining, that's where people picked up on the practice.I think Rannunculouss too, but no one remembers that far back.
>>36771341I don't think so. The participants for CR Cup have already been announced: https://crcup.jp/games/%e7%ac%ac4%e5%9b%9ecr-cup-valorant/
>>36771514didn't he say himself that he respect China only and call CCP fuck off.after the apology that make everyone brand him CCP dog.
>>36771184Mori...
>>36771558>kiara thinks she has done anything to deserve her subsbitch fuck off, you would be a sub 500k sana tier shitter if gura wasn't in your generation
>>36771565>Wasn't YouTube supposedly fixing this?Not really considered a fix when the only people that can get in the pot are people that youtube approves so no anime, political or any controversial stuff.
>>36771253You don't know what growth means, do you?
>>36771371New group, but the corpo behind it already operate for almost 2 years. Pretty successful for TW standard.
>>36771468>>36771675>GrowthI mean koshien is bigger this year than last year.
>>36771580se>>36771395You're like 8 minutes too late on this one.>>36771517https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx0DZEILSFM>cute model with CN style overanimations>want to be Japanese so they speak it ok>Almost all of them know some EnglishIf KR girls are like Japanese girls but heavily CN influenced.TW girls are like CN girls but heavily JP influenced if that makes sense.Meridian still has the stronger lineup right now.
>>36771633I'd argue only Gura and Ame deserve their subs. I think Mori's music producers are the ones deserving the subs.
>>36770951He's mistaking cause for effect. Lots of derivative stuff and complexity arises because of the popularity of a particular piece of media in its original form, not the other way around. Forcing stories is cargo cult mentality. The more lore and complexity you create, the harder it becomes for newcomers to feel like its worth getting into stuff. That's the tradeoff for retaining fans who would have otherwise lost interest. It's not something you should be actively striving for.
>>36771708ina is doing fine, ame is whatever but most of her subs are leeched from gura(just like kiara)
>>36771708Wasn't Mori the one producing her own music for most of her career?
>>36771558Probably Astel is more worried on the slower growth for the Holostars side compared with Hololive. Going for retention and working to keep your existing audience is good if like the Hololive side you can get thousands to watch per stream. For Holostars he seems to think that they need something flashy and attention getting that gets a lot of outsiders curious enough to give them a second look like what Salome accomplished for her debut.
>>36771453She joined Holo when it was a downgrade
>>36771558Your point about customer acquisition cost vs customer retention nails it, I knew about that from my day job but never made the connection to vtubers.This is why it's such a grave decision to get angry at your audience, chastise them, and "filter" them. It's going to be 5x as hard to get a new viewer to replace each viewer you lose. I'm not saying talents should never do it, but it shouldn't be done casually.
nene 10k
>>36771326I did not notice but was it earlier and she moved it later or something?
>>36771708>Mori's music producersWith like 4 exceptions, their instrumentals are ass.No one would listen to the shit they made for Mori if she weren't doing her own "JP net underground rap but in English" vocals.
>>36771476>>36771532If she joins hololive and becomes huge, is that the death nail in the VTA project?
>>36771371>Moon 10kNot a vtuber in sight.
AIIIIEEEE GOZARU FBK DON'T LOOK
>>36771775>If she joins hololive and becomes hugeThat would literally be the one thing nijisanji doesnt want.
>>36771709>Forcing stories is cargo cult mentality.See also: VERSEn. They commissioned the most exquisite lore for them before even debut and went for “multimedia project” from the getgo. Somehow in the middle of the planning they forgot they had to have their bribers succeed as well.
>>36771759yeah 21 jstbotan factoriokorone sonicfubuki fgo gachapekora trial
>>36771763Anon her raps are cringe.
>>36771709I don't know why it's so hard for them to understand this. Touhou literally already answer all the questions and correlation between official lore and fanworks 20 years agoJust let the fan handle everything, you just give them the general lore guideline
>70K for Moon's graduation
>>36771779>Not a vtuber in sight.thats because its the taiwanese space agencies stream and channel and not the vtuber one.
>>36771775No, because they still have a lot of guys there.Actually, the opposite, because it shows it can be a gateway into other groups you want. It would probably blow up with applications.
>>36771744was she popular as a Niji? Her old appearance is the complete opposite of the current one but she was in the same batch as Honhima and Kuzuha IIRC
>>36771740He ignores the main point about why Holostars aren't successful compared to Hololive, or their Nijisanji male counterparts. Holostars hasn't been interesting or entertaining enough to gather an audience. It's as simple as that.
>>36771818forgot linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUH69LBaX-I
subaru frame at 8, weird choice
>>36771835>was she popular as a Niji?lol no
>>3677180719 jst chloe ukmrsubaru18jst koyotowa22jstflare RE
>>36771847Ah yeah blood moon today
>>36771312That's because you are not JOP and you don't watch him
>>36771811Almost ALL rap is super cringe, it's just posturing most of the time.Her net cringe works for net listeners since it's their type of cringe.The rap you listen to sounds cringe to outside communities too.
>>36771746And for some reason people still don't take picrel seriously.
>>36771687MeridianSpringFish (the one with Rescute)Cloud(?)The BoxThese are the current main corpo right?Any more noticeable TW chuuba corpo?
>>36771847Is a portal going to open at full eclipse and pour out the demons of hell to destroy this world and make way for the new?
>>36771801in the defense of the verse chuubas it was literally the reverse case of myth where cover expected myth to get id level of numbers while sony expected them to get holo level of numbers in the first month but once they didnt show that sony just left them to rot.
>>36771283Kys
>>36771558I agree on your point about winning back the old Holobox audience instead of going for the Twitch ADHD zoomers.I disagree about Kiara being at fault tho, she's literally one of the most proactive ENs right now but there is a huge unity problem especially regarding Myth. If they want to incline it needs to be a collective effort and they absolutely need Gura to do shit and stop being a sperg. Either that or hope EN3 is going to be Myth tier but without all the fucking autismo.
>>36771823>2022.11.08 月全食掩天王星直播 feat @Earendel ch. 厄倫蒂兒 @Nemesis ch. 涅默They're not streaming it on their channels, and they're not here so, how is this ft.?
>>36771842And the important pointThey are a bunch of dude being put into a company where girls reign supreme and the "Girl only" culture already rooted itself in. Basically like if ZUN suddenly make a Touhou game with dudes in the cast
>>36771832Being part of VTA means that Anycolor had first dibs on her and either turn her down or she refused to be a niji. Both paint a terrible look for them.
>>36770951>>36771073Not this anon and I also tried watching it in 1x speed (damn gone were my 25 mins), and if I could say something, it's that his mindset is frighteningly similar to Riku.There's this interesting view that this anon pointed out, like>Vtubers should be more like anime characters come to life than humans with an avatar to incline.>He thinks they should be characters, like NPCs, not like humans. He thinks long streams are harder to sustain as a character, and make the vtubers more "human". Human = bad.>Thinks vtubers are consumable, like anime or manga, and that people will move on when one quits or retiresEmphasis on the consumable mindset, this implies that he never really thought that 'Vtuber' will become a main industry, but only as a supportive industry to another. In his thought it's probably natural that a 'Vtuber' will debut, live around for around a year or two then dies, which led to the thought that anime characters would be better.He isn't technically wrong in that regard, since if you're only eyeing a shelf life of a year or so, then having the biggest impact during your debut and first months are probably the best way to maximize profit, and doing kayfabe thing is definitely the way to go as all of us already saw with Salome. The problem here is that this mindset only set sight on short-term profit, once the initial boom is gone people won't come back to their contents since there really is no attachment you can get with an anime character, you only get those with interaction between humans. Which in turn will lead into the infamous ACCELERATE, the need to constantly replace those old stories with the new ones.Personally I dislike his way of thinking. Like, those Chronoir that he looks up to never really play up their kayfabe even. King is popular because he's a brotuber who does whatever he wants, even switching games mid-stream if he felt like it. You don't go 'Anime' headfirst if you're planning for long-term, you build up your audience first with your human side then start to branch out into those 'Anime' side, hell even recently Aqua just showed that with Aquarium.
What do holoX and council do to boost their pathetic subcounts? I know they missed the 2020-21 boom and all but is there anything they could do that would help them?
>>36771884Yagoo will hire the demons of hell and they'll debut as EN3 next weekThey'll also mention Tempus in their debut streams
>>36771847>+22khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gguyxZ3pseU
>>36771940Holy shit miguel is going back to holo and will be on the en branch
>>36771795I mean, short of locking someone in a room and putting them on house arrest until they sign a contract, I doubt Anykara can do anything about it. If anything, the failure of the last two VTA waves might've scared off some of the VTA chuubas. Assuming that a VTA grad makes it to JP7, that would actually be a good thing for Nijisanji since they can say that "one of the people we trained made it into Hololive JP7, which is the 5 most desired slots in all of vtubing right now. Come join us and you too might make it to JP8... or maybe stay with us if it doesn't work out?"
>>36771907And now Myth a divided into 2 side because of Tempus. Some girls want to rope the dudes in with them and some girls just want to do things ONLY with other girlsIt's the reason why Gura been avoiding everyone, probably to wait until all this Tempus shit came to pass
>>36771940Fuck, another purple demon
>>36771936EN3 being the next sankisei. But that feels impossible. The conditions that made myth succeed( the pandemic and all) are never coming back
>3.8k waiting>55 minutes leftPrediction for trial war?
>>36771881Not corpo, but Zrush is the biggest TW chuuba, even if he doesn't use the model 1/2 the time.https://www.twitch.tv/zrushHe's never done a cam stream as far as i can tell.
>>36771842HolostarsJP has too many deadweight personalities. It's amazing how they still continue. Compare Toya with any Holostars is like comparing Marine with Bae.
>>36771981Around 40-50k max
>>36771936unironically stream more, if you're not a meme or already big, it's the stat that gets the more results from streaming more
>>36771981>115 minutes60-80k
>>36770985yeah>>25588687
>>36771687I don't know much about KR and TW chuubas so correct me if I'm wrong, but what if the sudden recline of western vtubing is caused by the rise of Korean and Taiwanese corpos? We know for sure that there are a fuckton of those fans for the EN girls, with Bae having a huge majority of Korean SCs and that Taiwan con having a lot of Holo related shit.
>>36771936if you want them to boost sub counts fast then there is one forbidden way the ollie way.
>>36771371this is now a vtuber stream.
>>36771936Literally not possible. The pandemic conditions that made the vtuber boom in the first place will never be recreated. Sucks for the later gens but it is what it is. There are always other metrics other than subcount.
>>36771981she moved to 21 jst, the same time as fubuki fgo gacha
Tempus is EN3
>>36772019Kobo didn't need the cursed technique
>>36771746hololive is lucky in that a disgruntled fan is more likely to find an equivalent in the box instead of moving on to another corpo. But individuals who do this are sabotaging their own growth. This applies to you most, Mori.
>>36771986Do they have any stand out personalities even?
>>36771995Can Koyori stream more?
>>36772039>Kobo didn't need the cursed techniqueShe did but the difference is that the technique was activated on the other side.
>>36771986>HolostarsJP has too many deadweight personalitiesSo if you were to handle starsjp, which of the 13 members would you keep and which ones would you let go?
>>36772038Not 5 members. Real Hologens need 5 members.
>>36772049only roberu, being mea and animare's slave
>>36772063Sacrifice them all for kira
>>36771984that's a real stretch to call him a vtuber, and besides given twitch's overinflated numbers i'd still say linglan is bigger
>>36772065Council...Gen5...Gen3...Gen4...Gen0...Irys...
>>36771936>>36771995Stream more but at the same time, pick your content wiselyOne of the main reason for Koyori current number, dare I say, it's because her game choices are similar to what the First Army play. It help her attract all the First Army audience who are used to watch those kind of gamesLaplus keep spamming Valorant, but well, there's almost no audience for Valorant in Hololive, she will only be able to receive viewer boons from like Towa and that's it
>>36772049Well there’s Roberu but Roberu stood out by getting into the Tamaki clique, not because of his own merits
https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1589452595957039104Youtube Japan is shilling my oshi
>>36771927>once the initial boom is gone people won't come back to their contents since there really is no attachment you can get with an anime character, you only get those with interaction between humansYeah I agree with you, I don't like his perspective on parts of this either. I think Hololive is characterized, for better or worse, by pretty intense emotional attachments to your oshi (for core audience at least, ignoring redditors/clipwatchers). I don't consider my oshi "replaceable", and it'll never be the same for me when she graduates even if I keep watching other Holos casually. This has business implications. I buy my oshi's merch instantly, and I buy her concert tickets instantly. For other Holos, I weigh in my mind if the merch is good, if I like the guests, etc, and don't buy the vast majority of it.
>>36772083Anon all of them aside from irys debuted with 5 membersthe only pseudogens in hololive are gamers and irys
>>36772053i mean, she literally has the biggest growth rate of the 2 groups and she's not even close to being the most charismatic one and has a shit ceiling
>>36772065>gamers...>gen 0...
>>36772088anon isn't talking about ccv, he's talking about subcountstreaming more doesn't really help your subcount at all even if you get good numbers
>>36772098your oshi is a failure who has yet to get S+
>>36772124Not a generation
>>36772114gen 0 debuted with soratempus is en3
>>36772069>>36772095Hard to call him a standout. He's better than the rest, but he doesn't have the power to stand on his own. He's higher than the rest since he is both able and willing to collab with anything that moves.
>>36772017Doesn't seem like there's been much audience overlap.KR vtubers appear to have inclined along with Isegye's rise, from the Hololive Korean clip watchers first, then from kpop fan teens, since their fans act more like that group.TW didn't grow as much yet, but also from Holo clip watchers it would seem and some stream watchers, given their also in the EAsian time frame.Audience that was there but couldn't participate much in live streams.EN are mostly in NA, and mostly in the LA-Seatle-VC time zone. Quite a lot of Asian Americans, but a different group.
>>36772039nah she had the same technique applied to her by being mentioned on the radio and getting shilled by big name indo fleshstreamers.
>>36771957I fucking hate Tempiss and I think they contributed to the divide but Myth still had huge unity issues even before. The offcollab arc proved it, the girls barely streamed and they fucked off doing their own thing for most of the time. Things somewhat got even worse after it, with Gurame being completely fucking dead, Ina vanishing, Gura and Kiara completely ignoring each other and other shit like that.Myth is just autistic and they really needed a single sane person in the gen to tardwrangle them.
>>36772063desu, none of them are worth a dime
>>36771927>it's that his mindset is frighteningly similar to RikuI’m not surprised, astel’s roommate was openly a nijifag prior to his debut in holostars
>>36772133Ok braincel. What constitutes a generation?
>>36772131S+2 now, kys.
>>36772149gen 0 started this year anon with azki transfering to hololiveand using your own retarded logic tempus would be gen 5 and not 3
>>36772102that is good for you as a fan but is not good for a company since they want fans loyalty shared among different talents and with Cover.When Astel joined most of the Hololive talents too had the same idea of only doing it for couple of years, now because of the boom it emerged as a sustainable career(but only for Hololive since many Niji still have part time jobs).
>>36772017Most of the top TW chuuba sits around 500~1k ccv, 1k for TW chuuba is like 10k for a JP, I don't think the impact of them rising has an effect "yet" because it's a different experience, and if it does, it should impact JP members too if we talk about that demographic data from Cover
>>36772129I was adding content choice on itKnow your company audience, know your own audience, know what most of them interested in and give them just that
>>36772160>i think tempis is at fault for collabing with girls but not the girls for inviting them first >hating the tool instead of the wielderngmi anonyou're ngmi... white knight simp his oshi can do no wrong.
>>36772131my oshi is not what you think anon
>>36772160Looks like all of the issues are with the girls anon.
>>36772149Really i dont see tempus in the hololive website anon?
>>36772080>overinflated it's a meme that Twitch numbers are that inflated, because other than Twitch anon no one bothered to test them and he keeps saying they're like 5-10% higher.YT are 5-50% lower though.You can just as easily bot both as we've seen in this thread.
>>36772192>gen 0 started this year anon with azki transfering to hololiveroru rorurumao
More clip numbers. (Accidentally posted it in global)Drops across the board as Sportsfes clips die down, with Pekora(2->1) and Miko(1->3). Marine(3->2) with old 3D clips. Zeta(50->4) with Birthday, Botan(18->5) with Radio Station w/ Lamy.Kuzuha(4->7) with League of Legends, Mumei(20->8) with RE7, Mio(43->9) with Post-Sportsfes zatsu with Subaru and Miko, Gura(8->10) with old clips.Overperformances by Choco(62->12) with Cooking Offcollab w/ Pekora, Mito(51->27) with Zatsu about travel/HL Studio, Yuika(56->29) with NIKKE Sponsor, Polka(55->35) with Post-Sportsfes zatsu.Split today is 15.1M(-2.5M) HL to 9.8M(-980k) NJ.
>>36772210Kek. Just as I read this post
So... are blonde hololive vtubers just number cursed? Is Migo to blame?
>>36772207that still won't get them anywhere near the growth rate all holos experienced during the pandemic which is honestly unfortunate
https://youtu.be/nzE1R1mR_bsNUMBER
>>36772229i mean we are using that anons retarded logic.
It’s always weird seeing someone like Astel or Vesper going around talking about how to stream as if they aren’t absolute shitters. If someone like Pekora or Jun was giving advice I’d listen but why would I listen to someone in such a sorry state as them?
>>36772233Graph.
>>36772227thats because en is not hololive you need to look for the holoen website specifically
>>36772241pekora is innocent though and i trust the lawyer to fight off subarus baseless accusations
>>36772210Giving a chimp a gun is always a bad idea, and obviously the chimp is Mori. Management was just completely retarded for debuting Tempiss instead of EN3, and now with half of the talents on a hiatus it became more crippling than ever.
>>36771816I blame the MCU for the idea that there has to be a dense quantity of interlinked content for something to be 'worth it'. Even in the comments of that very video you see someone going "the next step is a multiverse!" Things like that sound good only because the promise of 'infinite worlds' is a sneaky way of makiing the layman jump to the conclusion that they're getting a shitload of content on the same level as the main stuff for cheap. That there will be so much of it that even if only 1% is good it's worth it, forgetting that the 'infinite' stuff is just marketing and someone actually has to put in the same or greater amount of effort while knowing their work is just for a spin-off with much less audience and money. The worst case is when the would-be creators themselves get caught up in the hype, only to crumble when they actually have to put their pen to paper.In a way, it's very similar to how kids go through the phase of calling the stuff they make, do or call themselves 'random', because it makes you feel like your failures don't count and you can keep shooting your shot. In reality every dead-end, unoriginal story or flat character you churn out makes your 'universe' worth so much less because you yourself tied them irrevocably together.
>>3677225116k
More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>36772233Zeta(23->1) with Birthday Call-ins, Choco(32->2) with Cooking w/ Pekora, Mio(31->3) with zatsu about the sportsfes with Miko and Subaru, Botan(17->4) with Radio Station w/ Lamy, Mumei(10->5) with Resident Evil Biohazard.Split today is 5.1M(-1.8M) HL to 2.0M(-40k) NJ.
>>36772259>thats because en is not hololiveBut myth council and irys is in the hololive website though?
>>367722518.7k
>>36772264You can’t just call black people monkeys Enna
>>36772241this is correct though. she ddint do anything on christmas. the cold chicken is innocent. and it's going to get warmed up this year with passion!kronii however...
>>36772017venn diagram of domestic tw chuuba fans and holo fans is a circlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQs3W-iZCTwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXybymT627Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_GdsjekCE4
>>36772241Most based Nousagi, I love that fucker.
>>36772160Want that supposed to be ame?
>>36772160I like that Gura actually find someone with the same brain in NOT, too bad they spend most of their time in their private discord lol
>>36772277Graph.
>>36772233Pekora does it again
>>36772270>He thinks this idea started with the mcuanon this retarded idea has been around way longer than mcu in fact i could argue that it started with the spagetti westerns.
>>36772255i think you are confusedgen 0 as established in 2020 way before azki joined
>>36772233More clip numbers by Source.
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1589924106690260992?s=20&t=d1dTLtKfGwPrLVe69KD7pQUhhhhhh
>>36772277>indog choco mio botan mumei top 5jesus that's unusual
>>36772320no we are using anons logic which would make gen 0 start at 2022
>>36772278tempus is en3 not holo3 anonit doesnt mattercope
>>36772233Pecock!
>>36772329shes going to be working in soapland soon after spending her money on those morgans
>>36772329Pretty sure she’s referring to her money/apple giftcards
>>36772329she's talking about the lunar eclipse anon
>>36772329she has to pay that massive gacha debt anon probably in soapland
>>36772351and what logic is that exactly?
>>36772329It's about the moon
>>36772349The last 4 u mentioned are >>36772349pretty strong clip wise
So if anykara turns everyone into a streamer, who is going to watch the streamer?
>>36772088Nah kenzoku will only watch valorant if Towa is playing. A decent amount of kenzoku have noticed that lap simply won't do anything with Towa so they have largely moved on to other better towafriends. There's even quite a few that think lap was just lying about being a kenzoku.
>>36772353but it doesnt show them as en3 in the website anon?and if we follow your logic tempus would be en5
>>36772398Bots
>>36772257this.
>>36771907>old holobox audienceNever left, we've been through this before, they're just culled + watching vods instead of catching streams live. HoloEN know this because they have the real unculled numbers from the analytics, it's why Kiara knows she needs to chase the actual mainstream if she wants to grow bigger than she already is.
>>36772388retard logic
>>36772404who is en 3 and 4 then?
>>36772388NTA but, AZKi wasn't a hololive member officially until this year. So gen 0 was 4 members and a guest
>>36772302Roru, rorumao. Ame might be by far one of the most socially autistic members in HoloEN. She's a bitter contrarian and the one who sinked Gurame.Gura is just shy and a complete sperg.Ina is a literal fucking zombie so she has zero agency.Mori is Mori enough said.Kiara is by far the most normal one and she's still fucking Kiara.
>>36772428exactly thats my pointso tempus is en3 despite being only 4 membersthey dont have to be 5 members
>>36772233>>36772277>>36772323Anon are the clips you are following just JP to EN clips, EN-JP clips? cause ive noticed theres some new local clippers that have sprouted for holo.
>>36772257You have a point, don't you? I thought his ideas were interesting and have been discussing them but at the end of the day, I don't know if anyone should follow the advice of someone who has failed to incline. Brings to mind the cruel, but seemingly applicable old phrase:>Those who can, do; those who can't, teach
>>36772447By that logic Gamers is JP3 and EN4 will be the savior of EN.
>>36772427Irys and council
>>36772308I meant in the popularity sense where every normalfag is demanding it as though it's an novel, never tried before thing (even though the comics themselves pushed it for decades) that is the only logical step forward for any shared property.
>>36772423you seem to not understand basic logic. tempus is en3 with 4 members. gens dont need to have 5 members to count as gens as shown by gen0
>>36772257They're in the top 0.1% of streamers, they know more than you. Not their fault they're treated like pariahs by the girls.
>>36772478>gens dont need to have 5 members to count as gens as shown by gen0so tempus is en4/5?
>>36772451Any video that mentions a stream or channel in the description. As long as the clipper properly sources, the language doesn't matter. Of course, my ability to detect new clippers is dependent on youtube's search engine and my free time (I don't have that much lately).
>>36772499no because there is no gen 3 and 4 before them
>>36772527council is gen 3 anon.
Who the fuck is the "Tempiss is EN3" fag who spams this shit everyday? Is it a delusional Homobeggar, a spiteful Nijinigger, a disappointed Holofag or just some bored shitposter? It's hard to tell.
>>36772499myth en1council en2tempus en3>>36772538irys is not a gen since she is only 1
>>36772539dont know if its the same guy but a couple of days ago a tempus is en3 poster was deleted in another thread the same time a selenposter was banned.
someone told me earlier that this thread had less shitposting than globalKEK
>>36772549irys is en0 with haachama
>>36772539Is this a Who wants to be a millionaire episode?Im guessing D shitposter. Secure it.
>>36772539It started as something that Homobeggars and nijifags were taunting EN3-this-week-for-real-guys posters with even since back in September, and I think now has been picked up as a scornful thing by disappointed HoloEN fans as well. So all of the above is my guess.
>>36772257To be fair though, even as a nousagi, I've always felt that Pekora, more often than not, stumbles into success. Of course, her dedication is one to behold, but without her crazy luck, I doubt she would be doing any better than, say, someone in between 1st army and 2nd army.
>>36772549>irys is not a gen since she is only 1You dont need to be 5 in order to be a gen anon so by that logic irys is gen 2 and haachama is gen 0
>>36772549Technically IRyS debut with Omega.
>>36772539Depends on what is discussed, usually it's a shitposters but when asking where EN3 is some people theorize that tempus took their place in the order of debuts.
>>36772498If you want to go by that, the 0.0001% puts in 10-20 hour days, which absolutely goes against Astel's idea of 'short streams'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Tv_QogbJASomeone is playing Minecraft
>>36772588you dont need 5 but i never said you can be alone lol why are you so dumb?
>>36772565Perhaps it's (You), a globaltard,who is trying to stir shit up here. It's weird because hlggtards seem to know a looooot about various schizos for some reason, given that they only watch EN whores.
>>36772447That would make tempus gen 14. Robocop, IRyS, Sora Miko, and Suisei where all solo debuts and 4 stars gens
>>36772549Myth 1Irys 2Omega 3Council 4 Tempus 5At least do your reps if you want to shitpost
>>36772589>omega is part of hololive genif thats how you want to play im ok with it
>>36772611>Omega will save ENBelieve it.
>>36772611This discussion is retarded from the start because, as Omega will happily tweet at you, EN doesn't use gen numbers. So who cares how you assign particular numerals to them all anyway, it's all fanon.
>>36772539Maybe someone like this dude?
>>36772635yeah omega is en along with haachama thats why that branch is diseased and rotten to the core.
>>36772610>>36772611a gen implies more than one member fags. learn basic math cuckolds kek.
>>36772587Would you mind telling us what is Pekora's favorite kaomoji if you're truly a nousagi?
>>36770951>>36771565Characters that go in-full like Salami aren't interesting. When you have Hololive and you're trying to sell an idol journey you want people that still have real problems.
>>36772650hope that dude did opsec then
>>36772428Officialy yes but literally noone gave a fuck about that distinction, when Suisei introduced Gen 0 during her 2020 live she didn't say gen 0 and AZKi.
>>36772661Gen in this instance is not related to math or numbers. You can have a 1 person gen.
>>36772611I still can't get over how they announced Omega. Like it was some big deal, then nothing at all happened with that aside from the guy stroking his own ego.
>>36772681I 100% agree, but it's retard hours and officially EN doesn't have gens
Tempus is EN3or EN5 or whateveryou want it to be. WHat matters is that we had a new EN gen for this year already. Next debuts will be early summer 2023 and it's gonna be mixed gender like Iluna.
>>36772677Check his history, this guy spent more time on r/virtualyoutuber
>>36772587Luck whining is such a meme, the final cope of failures. >If only I had luck, I could have made it too.Remember your Seneca, because he knew the truth about luck.>Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity
>>36772697Hilarious how Nodoka has no channel but she streams. Omega having a channel is just showing his ego.
>>36772709This anon knows what's up.
https://youtu.be/Wh-RIZq3GMQSubaru coming in with the Kino
Sometimes I wondered why are we so slow during this time then I just stumbled on our poster leaked out to another boards>>>/a/244847595
>>36772709I believe yagoo wanted a girls only gen but mori convinced him to mix it up to be more trendy.
>>36772723In Gura's own words, Jenma is more suitable to have a model as staff member than Omega
>>36772723>>36772697I mean this is the first tweet. It tells you all you need to know about his headspace.Guy actually thought he would be Gura 2.0.
>>36772723He wanted to debut on stream but chickened out, I firmly believe this. He couldn't do it, he knew it would flop and feared rejection from the fanbase.
rank the holoen managers most competent to least competent
>>36772709>Next debuts will be early summer 2023 and it's gonna be mixed gender like Iluna.how would that actually work in hololive though since they have different departments and managers for different genders?
>>36772772I forgot all about this, how dumb that he even thought he could draw this parallelHe must be truly, sincerely autistic in the actual sense of the word to have so little self awareness
>>36772822en is unified, no?
It took Koyori 30 minutes to get to 10k. How's her first army candidate status looking? Is her current game just that big of a debuff?
>>36772832its not since tempus is still under stars. calling en unified would be like calling jp unified as well since they are all under holopro
>>36772595>Twitch vs YoutubeYeah Astel knows more than you
>>36772832No, only the higher up are united
>>36772822It's not gonna work. Only people who have no idea what they're talking about would say this shit genuinely. The fact that the EN Minecraft server is connected to the JP one guarantees that a mixed-gender gen will never happen.
>>36772587Part of success and talent are knowing to seize opportunities. Studies have shown that people who feel they’re lucky are more likely to jump on opportunities as they arise e.g a job offer or in Pekoras case a stream (FGO) doing better than expected while someone who views themself as unlucky will let it pass them by.
>>36772794we only know like 2 of them...
>>36772832they want to but they cant because of gurasame with jp and sankisei blocking them
>>36772676No character is an island. People want stories with at least some stakes, and you get that by bouncing off something that pushes back. Part of the allure of Salami was "wow she's so anime there's NO WAY she can keep this up when confronted with the real world...there must be really interesting things that happen when they conflict!" But disappointingly and realistically enough, there aren't, so many normalfags lost interest after a while.
>>36772846will you finally stop ignoring my posts about how you guys should stop calling her that since you do nothing but attract schizos or will you continuealso this is like part 6 of this game
>>36772848lol yuo dont know how internal affairs in a company work do you? magni's manager sits right behind gura's and they joke around all the timesometimes during lunch break they do some silly shenanigans too
>>36772666>>36772587Still waiting for an answer, """"Nousagi"""".
>>36772650>-19Even fucking Reddit knows Tempus aren’t EN3
>>36772846Lamy is already gunning for first army. Second army is full of retirees who doesn't aim for high numbers. Second army is good for Aqua.
>>36772862Yep, don't forget Ollie was upset that the server merge was happening fast and couldn't give all the stars a tour of the ID server
>>36772822It's impossible, just a shitpost. A mixed-gender generation would be weird pariahs, completely detached from all of HoloJP and the more popular half of HoloEN. No minecraft, no rust, no whatever the "rust" is in 2023, no big events. You couldn't even call the girls Holos, they'd effectively be stars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjpyWlHvuA500 waiting kek
>>36772882actually i do since im en3
twa bullying duck
>>36772909based vesperim altair btwhop on discord
>>36772751>Shortened the collab bans>Controls Yagoo>Made Niji kneel and end the collab ban>shot my dogIs there anything Mori can’t do?
>>36772875Nah, Koyori is the next Pekora. We all know that fact
>>36772922Oh it's the game where Pekora did a totsu a year or two ago right? God something
>>36772932ice-skatingshe told me she can't release enough farts to push forward.
>>36772873>>36772882Proof next thread?
>>36772932Release another succesful album and get decent numbers lmao.
>>36772908>570 waiting 12 minutes out Is it unironically over for Vox Akuma? He was tripping hard back in the summer over his numbers declining and he has dropped like a rock since, he must be absolutely losing his mind
>>36772952She should ask Mio for advice
>>36772981>bae 7.4k cripple goldits fucking over. Washed up owl and coomerbaiter couldn't beat the fucking rat
>>36772882Ok Cover manager
that 9pm slot is going to be a hard stress test on the current total size of the holobox
>>36772981E-EN Gold…Please guys he’s barely hanging on let’s all just open the stream just for a couple minutes. Watch a stream save a life.
>>36772856NTA, but if he knows so much it's impressive that he's still doing poorly after 3 years.
>>36772874Yeah part of why anime characters get popular is because there are conflicts, there are character progressions and developments throughout the show. Salami did well cementing herself as an anime character during her debut but those aforementioned components just weren't there and she fell flat once people realized.
>>36772963
>>36773020Everyone and their mother bring out their best stream on that timeslot
Imagine telling someone a few months ago that vox and mumei would slip wheelchair gold to a 7k stream from bae.KEK
69mins. 5.3k waiting 80k-90k stream
>>36773026>watching homo>Niji homo evenNot in a million years
>>36772709Stop shitposting, retard.
>>36772947god fieldSuisei played it a bunch before the holocaustthen it got revived for a nepolabo collabthen we had the Pekora stream that shown her using numberfagging sitesand then a few streams here and there
>>36773069The mystery is attracting a lot of people. She didn’t say anything about this trial and no one know what is going to happen
How many tears will anon shed if next gen is mixed gender?
>>36772875That poster IS the schizo, anon.
>Lui collabing with a maleIts over...
>>36773092Myth and Council have both males already
>>36772901>JP retardation holding back ID and EN from incliningTypical
>>36773092Twice as much as the Kyoto Animation fans shed
>>36773115Wow, both of them? They have the only two males in the world?
>>36772892Lamy isn't first army quality. She's just coming off of RUST and starving yukimin.
>>36773133theres like 2 males in myth and council anon.
>>36773119Zombie should of been faster on the invite.
>>36773127what was that all about anyways? was there a male in the anime?
>peko delayed for 1 hourAAAIIIIEEEEE
>>36773152Kronii Will Never Be Male
>>36773092I'll ignore the EN branch except gura. I'd even take off gift memberships on their channel because having any association would make me feel disgusted. any clip that's not gura will be flagged as harassment and disliked.
>>36773092I wouldn’t cry but rather I am confused as to what benefit it will beong beside making Hololive a cheap copy of Niji
>>36772892I mean Botan showed that she was first Army material current first army isPekoraMikoSuiseiSubaruLamyBotan
>>36773115Objection. Im a male and neither has me.
>>36773164They made the girls Collab with trains
>>36773181It's what fans want, don'tcha know? Everyone on Reddit talks about it all the time!
>>36773148Lamy consolidated the wandering tasunokos, Fandeads, Nakirigumis and Aqua crew. They have already /become/
>>36773194>Botan>Lamy>first army>less CCV, subs, vod views than Gura>couldn't even get 90k for their 3D concertsLmao
>>36773201whats wrong with trains?
>>36773194>Anyone associated with Pekora will incline eventuallyI was right
When is Aqua gonna stream again?https://files.catbox.moe/74vr07.mp4
6k waiting room get! 1 hr left
>>36773092That gen would be SOL in terms of doing large collabs. They'd effectively be barred from doing any gen collabs in MC too, it frankly makes zero sense to do a mixed gender gen in Hololive.
>>36773170latechama
the army concept might be the worst thing that has ever happened to this thread
>>36773216>chuubas can't inclineSuzy got her first 100k stream this year anon. Stop living in the past.
>>36773214/become/ fags are some of the worst posters on this board. Neck yourself for being obsesed with a loud, boring elf.
>>36773222They are Nene fans
>>36773237Actually do Nijisanji even do waves collab? They pretty much have no concept of “wavemates”Imagine “iLuna collab”, sound pretty weird
>>36773234Cute aqua cosplay
>>36773194Marine doko?
>>36773230I mean at this point Pekora = holilive/vtubing thats why niji is so desperate to have her collab with salome.Hell i would argue that pekora doesnt even need hololive at this point and would still be a 20-30k streamer without it.
>>36773026> watching Nijihomos
>>36772892>>36773194Retards.
>>36773170
>>36773279Nice try falseflagger
>>36773259Yeah they can, Botan and Lamy haven't, their big 3D numbers have declined from last year lmao
>>36772874>Part of the allure of Salami was "wow she's so anime there's NO WAY she can keep this up when confronted with the real world...there must be really interesting things that happen when they conflict!"There could be too. Think about it: her whole bit was being a commoner LARPing as an oujousama. This could EASILY have been exploited in collabs with the ACTUAL CANON NOBILITY in Nijisanji>Princess Lize Helestafor instance Haachama was smart twice about that, sadly she isn’t known for taking things to conclusionShe set up two arcs1) Hololive English Domination: in which she would prove who the strongest English speaking idol is by challenging the newcomers and then2) HoloX domination: same thing, but world domination instead of English speaking Salome could have been so much more if she had expanded on her backstory instead of just sticking alone with the mannerisms.“OHerb desuwa” can only take her so far before it gets worn out
>>36773279now you're just falsefagging stop using pekora for your stupid bait
>>36773274They just did a wave 3D stream with hoshikawa
>>36773026Hell nah I am not going to save him
>>36773302tell me how im wrong when theres a 20k hard core nousagi that will watch her play any games. hell theres at least 15k hard core nousagis that will do watch alongs with her a feat that is almost impossible for vtubers.
>>36773279ok falseflagger-kun lets not act like pekora is some be all end all
>>36773250It's just a name. previously the rank was called S tier
5 mins after achieving 6k, 7k waiting room get!
>>36773304>Two months agoAnon, it's time to let go of the past.
sisters...this was supposed to be guaranteed 10k...
>>36773279this. Pekora is the face of Japanese Vtuber. fuck yagoo
>>36773330You aren’t but I don’t like you using my oshi to shit on others
>>36773278she's Ayame tier
>>36773331>falseflagger>>36773330
>>36773310Salome barely collabs in the first place outside of shill streams.
>>36773372if they dont work as hard as pekora trying to perfect their craft then they deserve to be shat upon.
>>36773369pekora belongs to yagoo retard
>>36773360Hold up, gotta spin up the farms, gonna take some time.
Pekora had around the same waiting room two days ago on FGO btw. 80k easy.
>>36773391she streamed more and with way higher peaks
>no one noticing that Towa is having 15k collabing with some random MALE in God Fieldkek
https://twitter.com/maccaron61/status/1589923020713635841?s=46&t=oWG97x6u-FIAxKgiX6EGXAYo the Red Tokyo Collab actually included the Holo messages to fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjpyWlHvuAThis is porn for Youtube right?
>>36770109>Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gachaAzurlane sisters.. This could be our numbers.. Alas they choose to pander to. Cjinks
>>36773448>male collabing with another male
>>36773360If this can't 10k its actually over for Vox. But I'm confident it can 12k.
Chloe numbers isn't doing so good... Laplus too..
>>36773461Nigga Azur Lane gacha is shit for streaming>Dumb materials >Have to WAIT for the ship to complete>Only 4 slots at a time
>>36773420shilling homo and dont even know Pekora is the face of japanese vtuber.
>>36773360Lost the mandate of heaven
>>36773448>random malethat's a streamer from cr who frequently collabs with vspo and has been matsuri's teammate for cr cuppretty sure that's not random
>>36773448Is that Akina?
>>36773473>chloe>ccv numbers
>>36773451That's neat
Holox is actually council tier holy shitTransfer koyo to 3rd gen pls
>>36773448Thought that was Akinator for a second. Who is this again? Uruka?
>>36773279Yeah! Who need Cover, she should totally quit and go independent! Even if she keeps 50% of her audience, she'll still come out ahead. It worked out so well for Coco!Wait a minute, the voices in my head are telling me something else. They're telling me to tell you to go rope yourself.
>>36773452Vox ASMR? Maybe if it gets reported
This is not looking like a 12k. It would take a very good worm up for that. Can it beat 10k?
Siro 700 get!!!!
>>36773525Kson is doing way better than she was under Cover and is selling out merch everywhere, chink.
>>36773528>flattening at 5kWhat the fuck? Is he overlapping something big?
>>36773360>Literally coomerbaiting to the max>Plateuing at 5.5kIt's fucking over
>>36773483>Have to WAITWait, can't they just whale the drill and cubes? I mean we are talking about holomem here, they can fucking whale for shit
>>36773461PekoNikke would be kino. They prepared a survey yesterday but unfortunately, unlike during the first CBT you couldn't shill your favorite streamers in there.
is this trial a buff for pekora because of the image she built with her "war crimes"?
>>36773525Assuming coco is pekora tier lmao.
Nijisisters found a guy with a bigger dick in cgdct
>>36773525You're really, unironically trying to compare Coco to Pekora? Holy retard
>>36773552>Having to pay even more to fucking speed up the gachaNo fucking way
>>36773533Siro Siros are very large
Hey keksonnigger is back with their usual tactic of who disagrees with me is a chink
>>36773542most of vox audience is in the pekora waiting room. number rabbit absorbed them too
UMMMM VOXSISTERS????? WHAT HAPPENED???
>>36773552Yes?Also, slots are 10 for construction at a time, and it's not like drills are hard to come by for most, even less of an issue for whales.
>>36773528Wait for 50 more minutes!Luxiem always peak at 60 minutes
>>36773560Who knowShe pulled this out of nowhere
>>36773528At least beat the rats numbers you failed numberfag
>>36773579Only if, for some godawful reason, you have shit resource management. Most of the time (99%) you get enough free drills that it's a non-issue. I don't think I've ever spent actual money on drills and I've been playing azur lane since the Hololive collab.
46 mins. 7.8k waiting
>>36773607>Out of nowhereShe pays attention to what EOPs are saying about her, unlike 99% of the other Vtubers.
>>36773528AHAHAHAHABABABABABABHAHAABHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHABAHABABAHABABABAHAHAHAHAHAH my oshi is reclining too
>>36773473>8 mins in
>>36773448lost 2k and almost got all back, she is fine
>>36773629It’s not about f2p or not. It’s about how you have to build a ship and then speed up rinse and repeat with a maximum of 4 slots at a timeYou can’t just press Roll 10 times and roll 10 times. That’s why I specifically said it’s shit for streaming
>>36773473Chloe always had shit numbers on heavy overlap, nothing new
>>36773540You know that doesn't mean anything unless you know how much was made in the first place. If they have anything left after the order window is over someone made a major fuckup
>This is the front of the courthouse. The first trial of Pekora Usuda is about to start, and the court has been moved to an hour later than scheduled, which is an unusual situation. Since this is the trial of a big-name Vtuber, nearly 7,500 people have already lined up in front of the courthouse to get seats for the hearing. Most of them are said to be wild rabbits. The defendant, Pecora Usuda, is believed to have a lot of extra crimes, so it is likely that the amount of punishment will be a point of contention in this trial. The above is from in front of the courthouse.
>>36773688Make it 8,2k instead, it's climbing fairly quickly.
>>36773638Yeah but she did not say anything about this stream at all before it happen
>>36773473The only numbers Chloe cares about is Superchats
What was the highest number for a stream during the Jonny Depp trial? Will Pekora beat it?
>>36771371You do know watching moon alone is boring. That why more people watch a watchalong with vtuber.
>>36773560The stream image looks weird so people are checking it out
>>36773629It's actually possible to lose drills if you whale in light construction. They actually run out faster than cubes, especially since players know how valuable cubes are
>Bae cripple goldSo the formula was to let everyone kill their numbers huh
>>36773679What. Unless I'm tripping, you have 10 construction slots, and you can insta pop all 10 if you have the drills.
>>36773540lol she is doing terribleshadow of her former self and it's not even closestop being delusional
>November is Pekora buffest month>She started dumping all of her la creatividad projects on NovemberYou like?
>>36773746>not believing in the Vox worm
Trade dealTop 20 nijijp performers + rights to koshien + 8% of anykara earnings + priority pick for any recent indie graduates + 23 first draft picks in exchange for Pekora.
>>36773745Oh right, I forgot about that.Thing is I don't think I've gone hard on anything that isn't 2-cubes per pull in ages.
>>36773679kek now I know you don't play the game
>>36773747Oh they changed it?That’s better then
>>36773703She pulled up a Pekora then. Who had guessed about her playing team fortress 2? FFXIV? FGO?
>>36773729500k and no
>>36773775Do you take third most subbed Holo instead?
>>36773775I refuse.
>>36773567>>36773575you are right, Pekora is to much of a social retard to even try and set up merch and big projects
>>36773746I'll bet you literally anything Vox worms
>>36770951>4. Thinks vtubers are consumable, like anime or manga, and that people will move on when one quits or retires (I think this is his own cynicism speaking frankly)Anon, we already had 2 big cases of audience "Move on" when a VTuber "Quits"
>>36773775fuck off nijikek, enjoy your dying company
>>36773781Nah I didI just quit a long time ago so I don’t know if they updated that shitty gacha system
Don't let Vox distract your from the Scarle's 580 horror game stream
>>36773767>>36773811z dont count in the tally anymore but i think vox might incline to inch a small win
>>36773810Ah, you're a tatsunocuck, good to know there is still one shitting things up here.
>>36773804anon?
>>36773525I mean it worked for delatuya
>>36773810Lol, what a faggot.
>>36773829>he thinks kson isn't doing well>when she literally had thousands of people lining up just to see her in TaiwanKeep coping chink
>>244847853>Even /a/ chads shitting on nijisanji
>>36773753she's pumping up numbers for her big sponsorships iirc it will be announced this november
>>36773775>they sign the deal>Niji managers enter the room to greet their new golden goose>it's an empty room, only a monke and a TV in the middle>they double check the fineprint and it the trade offer was Jill-kun>TV suddenly turns on and they see bunbuncha as Peko's daily Holo stream begins
>>36773859>not hating both bugmen and that retard kson for being retarded
>>36773859*Cums on your whore*
>>36773858>>36773829ah so you are just false flagers or clip niggers.
Aki a bigger dbuff than a male, auntie...
Never forget that around 90k normal HoloJP viewers had to wait 1 hour for Hololive streams because the girls were not allowed to stream over a 12k Homo 3D reveal
>>36773775
Oh almighty keksonnigger, this thread admits that kekson is bigger than pekora, hell she's even bigger than gura,salome, mori and selen combined
>>36773905Uruca is not a male, (s)he's a cute female take that back anon
>>36773916I mean the ksonfag has a point Kson is literally getting bigger and bigger and will probably be the 3rd biggest vtuber behind Selen and Fulgur.
>>36773916>Moristop lying. Mori is bigger than anyone except Selen
>>36773908blueballing championships
>>36773753Kneel for my predictions? KNEEL!!>>27195411>>33778057
speaking of trials, remember when this was supposed to be thing?
>>36773899So you suck cock as a profession or as a hobby?
9k waiting room get 33 mins left
>>36773939just like Towa is a cute boy?
How do we fix Vox, guys?
>>36773963Everyone's expecting this stream to be a continuation of that
>>36773908And it will happen 3 more times
>>36773916thats not my point you moron. Pekora is a shut in who barely goes outside and has no idea how the world works. like yeah she could stream and still get good views but do you really think she would be able to even talk to someone about a sponsorship?
>>36773944>he says this when fulgur is about to get a fat transfer in order to beat selens numbers.
>>36773963Well subaru was trying to get the other holo to confess in her tweet last month so probably this month
>>36773998we dont, leave him like that
>>36773998He should use a dick cam
>>36773998Let him collab with Tempus
>>36774022Yes and would actually do a better deal than kson since pekora doesnt have delusions of grandeur and a messiah complex like kson.
This is Pekora's real face and she used the image knowing nobody would suspect it
>>36771036Because if you abide by YT meta then the entire horserace of this thread will be close to meaningless
>>36774022Why would she? She has a manager and can afford a team of them?
>>36774059by youtube meta i meant >>36771543
>>36773391CCV wise she can still crack 30k if she avoids debuff long games even if she stream everyday. I would make the case that Marine is still prime first army material, it's just that her physical and mental health forced her to focus on non-streaming ventures like planning for projects and recordings for non livestream jobs.
sexo 10k
>>36773963Pekora doesn't want to take the haacahama risk
>>36774085>cherry picking a stream that just startedWhy don't you show her back to back 10k streams from last week doing casual stuff like eating pizza?
>>36774022Yes because unlike that retard kson who thinks that she can be both manager and talent pekora is actually willing to hire a manager.
When did Matsuri become this strong?
>>36774085That's not fair, she just started
>>36774085Par for the course for her karaokes. She genuinely should have given up the vtuber gig and gone full blown facecamFor her it's the difference between a 10k and a 2k stream
>>36774085Yeah it's plain retarded to compare Pekora to Coco.
chloe 10k!
>>36774098>kson is more successful being a fleshstreamer than being a vtuberdoesnt that prove a point that she's a shitty vtuber?
>>36774107karaokes are her buffest content but they usually don't go beyond 6-7k
What is sora streaming today? She's supposed to be the judge in that haachama/pekora trial arc right?
Smells like a seething bug in here. I thought they already gave up on kson? Did the Taiwan tour invoke their anger again?
>>36772794Gori-manager>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else
>>36774098>Complains about cherry picking then proceed to cherry pickLol
>>36774085>those numbersShe should honestly just give up as a vtuber at this point since she's more successful as a regular streamer.
>>36774151Who is seething? Did kson get some cool numbers today?
10k get 25 mins left
>>36774151see>>36773888You can actually hate both for being the retards that they are.
>>36774186Is vox stuck on 6k?
>bae trombone did better than mumei drawingnice
10k waiting get 25 mins
>>36773888>not hating them bothngmi
>>36774212Dont worry he will get a Z to the promised 15k
>>36774098>28 minutesjust started?
>>36774219Damn, Luna is cute as fuck.
>>36774098
>>36774130>>36774084https://youtu.be/18GFIFVl4i4Mogged with a waiting room wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>36774249>facecam and anniversary being the only 10kkek
>>36774249>got more with a random food Irl stream than with her live3dmaybe vtubing isnt for her anymore
>>36774249i always assumed it was "on air" as in "live" but is Onair actually part of the name, as in Kson Onair?
>>36774249>her facecam streams get bigger ccv than her 3D liveI dont get it? Why doesnt just kson go full fleshstreamer route since her audience clearly wants it. Is she really that retarded or stubborn that she still believes that she can save vtubing?
What happened to vox and mumei? From being #2 behind gura to losing to bae. How do we save them?
>>36774249Aren't those 10k+ streams related to fan meetings in Taiwan?
prediction for pekora?
>>36774314Have them collab with each other
>holo v holo when peko's stream hasn't even startedthe streak is starting to affect them
>>36774318100k
>>36774267very cool anon, but consider the following
>>36774309Because vshojo spent $11million to get a top Vtuber on their ranks
>>36773875That’s a way better deal for Nijiawt8n
>>36774314you really cant save vox for mumei that would mean her quitting school and cover doesnt want that.
>>36774296yeah its pronounced similarly to "owner" rather than "on air"
>>36774317Yes, this was also when she was sick
>>3677431860k
How do we save KSON?
>>36773567>>36773575Look at historical data dumbfucks. Back then Pekora was 30k average to Cocos 10k excluding her wildly more popular meme reviews. They were not that far apart.And Peko STILL hasn't surpassed Cocos supachat total a year and a half later.Compare that to now: Pekora has only gotten stronger and Cocos roommate is a sub-5k shitter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQRk5OFsGXoThere is no better song released by hololive in it's entirety than this gem right here.Andromeda. Pinnacle of vtuber music. Elegant, beautiful and majestic.
>>3677431811k waiting with 20min remaining, 80k easy and should be able to beat most 3D lives, once again....
https://twitter.com/kaelakovalskia/status/1589945192798621698Kaela just received this, my first time seeing it.
>>36774336its the tatsucuck who got mad that people are shitting on kson and wants to divert
>>36774309Those facecam streams are not even her general content, see>>36774317I don't think she can get that number with just facecam.
Foobs
Huhhttps://twitter.com/kaelakovalskia/status/1589945192798621698
>>3677431880k-100k
>>36774336it's sport fes all over again
>>36774339nice
>>36774339Pekora is sexier.
So is using your CEO as a model a good idea or not?
>>36774249>CCV matters on YoutubeYawn. Her channel's doing fine, she's getting good amounts of SCs that all go into her own pocket as well as great merch sales.
>>36774374>>36774386>partnered superswait they implemented that already?
>>36774386>>36774374Youtube gaming day? When did that happen
>>36774339Chloeposters deserve the rope for how cocky they are.
>>36774309Being an anime character is fun
>>36774367https://youtu.be/Ii7rtNaGllsIt's a good song, but Shallys is the best hololive song
so when is niji getting a gold
>>36774374>KovalskiaI dont know what the artist was trying to achieve here
>>36771816Kek, have you SEEN where Touhou is heading for the last 2-3 years? PS: EoSD is literally Sankisei of Touhou
superior internet connection > no collabs with m*les
>>36774374Wait, is this a giant ruby or is this just glassed plastic?
>>36774361coco 10k kek outside her meme review shes 5k shitter>superchat
>>36774374>>36774386>and people pretended ID wasn't getting lots of moneyEvidence they make more money from donations than JP right here.
>>36774374>>36774386Seems to be an ID only eventhttps://twitter.com/sara_sgm/status/1573274356893257728
>>36774412
>>36774409(me) I mean Youtube Partner Day
>>36774403Only if he is charming
>>36774418when they buy bots again
>>36774367And it is NEVER EVER getting an MV
>>36774413Protect Misumi-san
>>36774415LOL
>>36774385
>>36774445>ID is making more money than JPhow hard is riku kicking himself in the balls right now?
>>36774404Is she? Can we see her resent SC numbers?
>>36774412You mean horny
>Imagine Vox coomer bait stream lost to fucking Bae plays the Trombone kosoge
>>36774402Pekora is NOT sexy.
>>36774418Nov 10 considering it's kuzuha birthday and he has something prepared
>>36774483bots short-circuit in the shower