/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1392793008706408452
Can someone explain the blue popsicle thing?

Do you think it's our fault they release such horrible design? At this point I prefer high-school uniforms over this.

>>3641785
Yeah, I get the impression it is yet another cringe dirty joke coming from her but it has gone completely over my head

>>3641785
KH popsicle

ELIRA!

https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1392801825548652548
apparently they haven't seen the final MV

>>3641814
A CUTE!

>>3641652
>Artemis had more subs and twitter presence than this

>>3641800
Individually the designs are pretty decent, they all just kind of blend together with one another

>>3641785
Its blueberry flavor not that weird flavor from Kingdom Heart. Salty something.

>>3641844
And that's a good thing. Artemis was a TBAtuber for 1.5 - 2 months straight with Domo and his circlejerk shilling him hard on twitter during that period like a big shot was on the way. So when the debut finally happened it was a total fucking disaster.

Let's settle it once for all:
http://poal.me/nv4nmh

>>3641652
How many of them are trannies?

>>3641844
shartemis delayed his debut for 2 months and did these skits every single day
look at his popularity drop once he debuted

>>3641896
all of them, sorry
don't bother watching them, stick to holos

>>3641800
I think the desings are ogey, not too flashy nor too plain, but I understand that people expected more quality given that they are the spear head for nijisanji overseas

Finara is cringe, Pomf is unfunny, but I have hopes for Elira.

https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1392806847610974213
>sharted
Either she's self aware, has no self awareness, or it's a typo.

>>3642188
She is. I'm betting she made that on purpose for the "OMG lulz" reaction

>>3642188
She's nor even being subtle about it.

>>3642188
>scat themed chuuba
how can holofags even compete

https://twitter.com/inui_toko/status/1392808601241096192
https://twitter.com/Chigusa_24zono/status/1392680028832366594
https://twitter.com/Sara_Hoshikawa/status/1392466030165774336
https://twitter.com/kirame_2434/status/1392656966221107207

>>3641800
there's nothing wrong with the designs individually, they are just very samey as a group. Which i guess is the exact same problem which plagued most of their other designs.

>>3642340
Pomu and Elira replying in japanese. I wonder if Finana can speak it too

>>3641652
I want her to sing Kuroi Uta

>>3642417
Definitely, you could say that about the Seireine girls too before Hisui became jack-o from guilty gear.

>>3642435
Finana is fluent in Japanese yes. Both her and Elira did their debuts in both languages on their old personas. Pomu is more like Ina-level so they can all collab with Niji JP.

The hololive bias is strong but it's to be expected, maybe if they end up having great personalities people will flock to them

Is there any actual proof these are the same indies or is it just an assumption?

>>3642188
Someone close should tell her to stop already

>>3642675
They shouldn't and don't need to compare themselves to Holo, as long as they're entertaining streamers who have enough people watching and donating to make a decent living that's a big success. If anything not having huge retarded fanbases like Holo EN do would be a net positive for everyone involved.

The only thing that concerns me is that these girls seem to have the same personality at least from what I see in their twitter interactions. The great thing about Nijisanji for me is the varying personality in the livers. Gundou & Claire as an example.
Hopefully I'm wrong, guess we'll see in the debut.

>>3641844
Artemis immediately dropped off in views and popularity after debut because everyone realised how boring he is

>>3641652
What made them decide that it was good idea to have the same long hairstyle, same body type and really long confusing names? Feels very generic desu.

Also, do they have character backstories/lore like ones from HoloMyth?

>They have more twitter followers than youtube subscribers
Is that normal?

>>3642841
There's nothing yet on their youtube account so yes

>>3642790
Don't think they have lore at all so far, all I could find on their YT channels was a sentence or two on each one akin to self-introductions.

They've been shitposting on twitter for the last 24 hours so go figure

I wonder if they'll regularly stream on twitch as well

>>3642772
Gundu is kinda an exception all JPs were constantly shizoposting about her just like Hisui.

they made an official account on twitch so i assume they plan to use it in some form

>>3642790
Elira Pendora (エリーラ ペンドラ)
Category: Solar Sky Dragon
Profile: A sky dragon who came from the heavens closest to the sun.
She has the kindness and receptiveness that makes the light of a sunny day fall equally on all.

Pomu Rainpuff (ぽむ れいんぱふ)
Category: Forest Fairy
Profile: A fairy who lived in a lush forest.
Supple like a flower in the breeze, cheerful and optimistic.

Finana Ryugu (フィナーナ 竜宮)
Category: Tropical Mermaid
Profile: A mermaid who spends her time with tropical fish in the sea of coral reefs.
Has a heart as clear and pure as the calm and beautiful sea.

>>3642790
I think the names are pretty easy to remember. Not the full names but just Pomu, Elira and Finana (will probably get abbreviated to Fina) are pretty easy to remember.

>>3642997
>clear and pure
so that was a lie

>>3642772
It's just twitter, it's hard for people to get their personality across through text unless they're an experienced writer.

>>3642997
There was this part too
Their story begins now.
In search for the Heart’s Melody, LazuLight journeys through the present.

Which kind of implies they're supposed to be from some time other than the present?

I will pleasure myself with this fish.

apexapexapexapexapexapexapex

>>3642790
>>3642997
>>3643156
The image with all 3 reminds me of 7th Dragon 2020, it's a really cool aesthetic

>>3643156
Heart's melody sounds like some mermaid key item from a jrpg.

>>3643213
>apex
Yeah, no, don't think I like her as much anymore.

This song is making me feel things, both in my heart and in my crotch

I'm a lil disappointed they just hired 3 Asian American sounding girls, I think mostly having gaijins in holoen was a big factor in them being popular in japan too

>>3643213
>Apex

Please dont stream it every day she is the one I like the most I dont wanna get filtered

wow english fans are vocal about the new vtubers and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way everyone makes poop jokes like vshojo and the western indies. I guess they were holding out hope for a good vtuber route. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the vtubers changed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.

>>3643417
What the fuck is this shit? Am I on /vt/ or tumblr? Fuck off, they hired the best available talents.

Being able to speak/read Japanese is surely a big plus for collabing with senpais and if anything Hololive probably learned from their mistake of hiring white girls for HoloEN because Ame and Gura have been struggling to have collabs with Japanese senpais.

>>3643213
Aaaaand buying fairycoin

>>3643601
Ame has collabd with 3 JP Senpais (Chammers, Mel and Robocco 2x) despite not knowing any lick of Japanese.

I'll grant Chammers knows enough English for a semi-understandable collab, but Gura is just her being autistic about collabs

>>3643213
They're not even trying to stand out

>>3643213
I don't mind apex as long as they can be entertaining while playing it or they're actually good at game and cute at the same time.

>>3643672
Ame's collabs are all pretty fucking cringe since she struggles to communicate, that's the point. She gets shit on every time she collabs because it's been over half a year and she never even bothered trying to learn Japanese even though it's the most important skill for doing her job.

As long as Nijisanji EN is entertaining and the first game they stream isn't Apex I'll be happy.

>>3642997
>Profile: A mermaid who spends her time with tropical fish in the sea of coral reefs. Has a heart as clear and pure as the calm and beautiful sea.
>Twitter: Brapposting

Avoiding the fish like my life depends on it, already subbed to the other two. I'm excited to see how it goes

>>3643728
oof I have some bad news for you then

>>3641652
Hololive reject? Hololive reject.

Watching the fish like my life depends on it, already unsubbed from the other two. I'm excited to see how it goes

I mean if HL weren't so stubborn about caging in their talent and let them collab with people they can actually communicate in it wouldnt be such a problem.

NijiEN would enjoy a more relaxed management so it is interesting that JP fluency was still considered a necessity.

Watching Nijisanji like my life depends on it, already unsubbed from Hololive. I'm excited to see how it goes.

>>3643732
Dangerously based

>>3643758
Nani?

>>3643732
Salty and full of microplastics, nice

>NijiIN had a tattooed shaman woman
>NijiJP has a chibi-styled demon and a Fire Demon
>NijiID has admittedly moderately plain original designs, but they're still all distinct from each other.
>NijiKR exists, which is frankly its own accomplishment.
>NijiEN is Literally My Mom's Cygames Roster.
If this is how they plan to introduce Nijisanji to the western world, they clearly don't care too much for the market. These are the safest, least distinct designs you could possibly go with. I'd expect this shit out of an indie or TBD, not the company most known outside of Japan for their distinct designs for livers.
The debut scheduling is a mess, too.
>Overlaps with a Hana stream, trying to cut in on one of the livers that proved EN Nijis were even viable.
>Overlaps with the months-running regularly-scheduled weekly stream that causes just about every EOP stream to take a hit.
>Roughly 20 minutes per debut, leaving no time for error or fan interaction. There's not even an "afterparty" collab scheduled after the debut relay.
>Timeslot is too late for about half of the English-speaking world.
This shit is completely being set up to fail and Ichikara is a fucking moron. Unless these girls have the most charismatic personalities on the face of the planet, they're going to be fighting the current from the word "go".

24hr Numbers
Elira: 14.6k
Pomu: 13.5k
Finana:13.4k
Debut Trailer: 73k views
Twitter Announcement: 368.5k views 21.3k likes
They seem to be growing at a rate of ~300 subs an hour at the moment

>>3641652
You forgot to include the official Twitch URL
https://www.twitch.tv/nijisanji_en

Cool,they don't take this down,I guess their mods just gave up huh

>>3643849
Well in every other international branch they have had the ones who can do japanese too have tended to be the best performing. Bora in KR, Noor in IN, Hana in ID.

>>3643732
What's a vuber?

>>3643916
I didn't put in the official Instagram or TikTok either, if they stream on Twitch I'll add it but until then it's just as irrelevant

>>3643913
Hana is in their debut stream?

>>3643213
>>>3642997
please no, not you dragon...

>>3643913
>Roughly 20 minutes per debut, leaving no time for error or fan interaction. There's not even an "afterparty" collab scheduled after the debut relay.
>Timeslot is too late for about half of the English-speaking world.
these especially cause me to feel like it's the "EN branch is just a side project" all over again

they're all kinda sussy...

>>3643213
APEX SAIKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3643213
tell me this is an edit. Onegai.

>>3643913
Someone please go to reddit and tell them to change timeslot. I beg you.

>>3643915
They already beat most of KR already so that's a win in Ichikara's eyes

>>3643953
A virtual uber, they take you to other websites for a fee.

>>3643947
While true, I was hoping that EN would take a detour from the proven path. Detaching them from the JP audience, and making them more accessible to the western market is the motivation behind the batch, right?

>>3644033
Apparently the length is the norm in Nijisanji but it’s really going to hurt them, aside from streaming at the same time as HoloEN heavy hitters

>>3644095
Either way it's better to have them speak it than not speak it isn't it? There's no downside to it.

>>3644101
I really don't think so. Hololive doing 1 hour debut streams is actually abnormal and ends up with quite a bit of filler content. If you turn it into just a self-introduction and cut out showing off the Live2D you can do a decent debut in 20 minutes. That also means it has more rewatch value, nobody wants to watch a 1hr+ debut stream but a 20 minute one is reasonable.

>>3644143
The downside is it might offend EOPs who get upset if they collab with JPs or speak JP just like what happened to Kiara.
Just ignore them and they'll fuck off back to Vshojo eventually.

>>3643213
AAHHH IM NOT GONNA WATCH A DOGSHIT GAME LIKE APEX

>>3644178
So long as they aren't alternating all the time like pika and kiara used to. It's annoying, really, specially if you can understand both so you keep listening to repeats.

>>3643913
You forgot to include that it also overlaps with a Gura/Amelia collab but can’t really fault Ichikara for that since it wasn’t scheduled until after the announcement.

>>3644143
Finding a bilingual candidate is quite the filter already, is what I'm saying. Ofc now that they're decided it's better that they speak both languages.

>>3644287
I feel like anyone who doesn't put in the effort to learn Japanese isn't a true weeb and therefore isn't qualified to join a Japanese vtuber company. It's mostly filtering out trend-chasers and untalented zoomers which is a good thing.

>>3644262
I also didn't include the Country Roads overlap, which WILL likely dominate Twitter over NijiEN debuts, because it too was announced less than a week ago, so there's no way they could've known about it in time to do anything about the time slot.
Bad planning AND bad luck. These girls are going to be fighting hard.

>>3643213
For fucks sake
Why can't they play any other FPS?
>tfw no chuuba play tf2 or tf2 classic

>>3644331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpm-pc2aGRo

>>3644331
Anon nobody period has played TF2 in the last like 10 years. That's like saying "why does nobody play Goldeneye anymore?" get with the times grandpa.

>>3644331
TF2 is fucking dead

Why can't everyone stream in uk time time?

>>3644260
It's also quite difficult to convey humor in two different languages.
Alternating is cool in concept but it usually just dumbs down speech to the most basic levels unless the speaker is exceptionally fluent.

>>3644319
I actually forgot Country Roads was going to be a thing during the 15th but tbf, that's like 3-4 minutes

>>3641652
So, as someone who knows jack shit about Nijis, here's my completely unbiased opinion.

This is kind of shit. First of all, the designs are nice, and I like the ideas behind each of the girls. Elira is the best one for me, but others do not fall behind too much.
But holy shit, their behavior on Twitter is awful. They're not trying to make a good first impression, they don't talk about their lore, or simply keep quiet. They act like they're in a race to make the front page of r/funny, and that's just fucking embarrassing. These fucking girls don't understand what being an idol means, and I'm not even talking about seiso bullshit.
Let's take Calliope Mori for example. Nothing about that girl screams "seiso" to anyone, she's a loud, foul-mouthed tomboy without a concept of self-awareness. But God damn, she tries her absolute hardest, and she's always 100% sincere. And we saw that from the very beginning. When she awkwardly stumbled through her debut and gave us great music, was almost driven to tears with those first superchats, when she was constantly repeating how her dream came true on the costume unveiling stream - that's what the true idol experience is about. Not memes, not reddit karma, not post-ironic cynicism. It's about honesty, sincerity, and rewarded effort.
Obviously, we shouldn't judge these girls only by whatever farts they post on Twitter now, but something tells me that they don't want to be idols. They want to be influencers. They want to build their personas on dozens of layers of irony, to make sure that nothing real or serious about them ever slips out, and have an army of brainless reddit children buying their merch and liking their meme videos. And what they will end up with will be the most soulless fucking empire of dirt one can imagine. Gura went through this before, and there's a reason why she doesn't drink on stream anymore.

I still hope that they will change their minds before it's too late.

>>3644371
Sorry anon, brexit has made it economically unfeasible to operate on UK time without negotiating an economic treaty with the UK for access to their time. Maybe take it up with your local MP.

>>3644371
euros donate the least amount of money to vtubers according to youtube statistics

>>3644319
Country Roads is a dead meme at this point, nobody cares about the song anymore

>>3644371
apparently euros aren't EN

>>3644331
I want chuubas to play dota2

>>3644393
>they don't want to be idols
Nijisanji the idol company yes

>>3644331
>[VALVE]NIGGERKILLER has joined the game

>>3641844
That might be a good thing. Subs and views have slowed down dramatically for Artemis after the initial surprise early success. Uto and Pikamee were in that slump as well but they seemed to have recovered some after their collab. Better steady growth with longevity instead of being forgotten after a month or more for the new hotness.

>>3644393
>she's always 100% sincere
Imagine being THIS delusional

>>3644411
https://youtu.be/og4Dn5DBaC4
This is the only time I've ever seen a vtuber play Dota 2 and she was pandering to the Chinese while streaming it on bilibili. Some of them play League but that game is fucking trash idgi.

>>3644431
You can be cynical about it, but then why are you here?

>>3644393
Literally no one wanted them to be idols, yet Ichikara still decided to release them as an idol unit. I don't get it.

>>3644331
Unless they know community servers, block chat, and mute voice, playing TF2 is an occupational hazard to any streamer right now.
>Queue for Casual
>7/5 games is filled with bots and borderline unplayable
>Queue for Competitive
>Remember that Competitive TF2 is a meme
The only way it'd be possible is if they did an MvM collab, but it's hard enough getting 3-man collabs going for Apex (a very popular game), let alone 6-man collabs for a game that most people consider completely dead.
Maybe if Gaben's comment on TF2 getting updates in the near future actually happens, it'll get popular again.

>>3644419
>chuubas getting fucked over by bots
that would be very fun to watch

>>3644393
Is this a copypasta? I feel like it has to be.

Does anyone give an actual shit about their lore? They can plaster a Tolkien book as their resume and it'll still fall off as their careers progress. Most invested v-watchers would be aware of their past lives. It's not a hill to die on.

>>3642997
A heart as clear and pure as the calm and bBRTHHHHHHBRBRPTHHHHH

They all seem boring but I'll check out their debuts. I'll also be sure to shitpost about them just to make insecure Nijisanji-fags mad

>>3644464
how is this different from apex

>>3644393
>they don't want to be idols. They want to be influencers
Since when you are under impression that Nijisanji is an idol company? Because they have better singers than Hololive? I mean that is true but they never call themselves an idol company. Now you can watch our idol Aiba Uiha.
>>3637372

>>3644454
Where were they called an idol unit? Don't get where that comes from to be honest. Doing a song together doesn't make them idols.

>>3644464
Just play on uncle dane servers

>>3644526
I play both, and Apex genuinely has less of a concentration of bots and hackers right now. The main issue making Apex "unplayable" is the completely dogshit servers.

>>3644533
You mean to tell me calling their group "Lazulight" and premiering with an original song doesn't make them an idol unit?

Colour me surprised

>>3644411
your literal only hope for Dota 2 chuuba is if they are pinoys

>>3644532
Idol culture is not about being seiso or anything, it's about being sincere and good-hearted. We love girls like Korone, Mel, or Ina not because they're some pure fucking angels, none of them are.

>>3644576
>Wanting Dane's servers to be flooded with weebs trying to play with chuubas
That sounds like a hilariously bad idea and would definitely raise some eyebrows.

Seems like they are running Youtube ads

>>3643913
The Hana stream IS their afterparty collab, anon

>>3644607
I do mean to tell you that. It's not uncommon for debut groups in the JP branch to have some dumb name or release songs as a group either.

>>3644393
Other than Elira, the rest look like generic designs. Not bad but nothing new.
Hololive being the biggest on the scene has condition people to assume vtubers are all idols which is not the case at all. From what I noticed NijiEN is currently attracting the Holo fans who are also vshojo fans.

>>3644645
who cares, it's just casual TF2. What would be the issue besides increased server wait times to join?

>>3644668
I don't think I've seen anything to suggest there are ads yet

>>3644688
NijiEN will naturally attract Hololive fans, they're in competition with each other for a reason.
But they should be aiming for Vshojo fans instead. That seems to be their audience.

>>3644668
Actually I see one guy on twitter saying he got one.

>>3643716
Learning Japanese is not in any way the most important skill for doing their job

>>3644736
I’d say wait till debut and their first stream to really get a good picture.
A lot of vtubers act different pre-debut and post debut.

>>3644393
Good take, as someone that also knows nothing aside from Mito's stories and a few random clips I completely disagree.
When I started watching vtubers I also ended up watching Hololive because of the friendly atmosphere. Aside from the usual schizos here, none of the girls really got into discussions with each other or anything like that and that was great until one day it struck to me how false that was. If even between guys there would eventually be some kind of conflict am I supposed to believe a group of 60+ eccentric and borderline autistic women all get along and it's all happiness and rainbows? No, it's because they've been selling that image from the start.
No matter how wholesome it is, it looked too artificial. That's why I eventually got bored of them always playing the same safe jokes and the same games and jumped to the indie world which is much more chaotic but also more free.
I don't want idols. I want streamers that can be themselves and say what's on their minds. I want them to go full retard and say clearly if they don't like something or someone.
For now it seems they'll be following a more idolish approach in the west, ironically enough. As for me, I sincerely hope they back off from that. I don't want a manufactured smile.

>>3644724

>>3644790
Nice photoshop skills Holofaggot

>>3644790
based
fuck that autistic onion

>>3644782
>am I supposed to believe a group of 60+ eccentric and borderline autistic women all get along and it's all happiness and rainbows?
Even ignoring that 60+ people coexist in approximately the same environment all the time for a job and manage to do fine, Japan is a culture of conflict avoidance. If you don't like somebody, you just don't interact with them, simple as.

>Not even 100k views on debut trailer.
>Might make it to 20k before debut.
Yeah they'll be a success for Niji standards but I'm expecting 3 digit maybe 1k viewers depending on what time zone they stream in.

>>3644782
Anon, a couple of coworkers getting along with no drama is perfectly normal and common. In usual, it's going to be those conflicts that are artificially manufactured.

>>3644644
Idol culture is about branding a talents inadequacies as a feature, then indoctrinating fans ad nauseam that their unconditional love will help them overcome obstacles and push the talent into stardom they wish for.
It hardly has anything to do with the principals of the talent itself.
Why do you think it's a culture that gets so much vitriol? What bubble do you live in that lets you be so oblivious?

>>3644676
What original song did Chigusa's group premiere?
I might have missed it if that were the case, but I do know they're called the Serine Girls Club or something

>>3644790
>Ad in the middle of a cover.
Yea fake

>>3644644
Ok. Then watch Lize, Himawari, Lulu, Inui, Aiba, Chima, Warabeda, Shiina or Ririmu.

>>3644782
Considering that they only interact with each other online and on streams, I don't see how it's so hard to imagine. I don't remember ever getting in conflicts with my online friends because when they start to annoy me, I can just log off and talk later.

>>3644331
I tried to stream tf2 once the bots are just too much

>>3644865
Are any of them part of NijiEN? Because that's what we're discussing here.

>>3644863
>middle of a cover
Anon, that's the ad length...

>>3644393
<Idols in Nijisanji

>>3644915
>Nijisanji doesn't have idols.
fucking newshit.

>>3644782
It's called knowing how to work with others, pretty common actually.

>>3644844
>If you don't like somebody, you just don't interact with them, simple as.
If this was common sense there would be peace. But as we know peace was never an option.
>>3644853
>>3644868
I'd believe you if they were perfectly functional women, they're vtubers and a lot of them have rambled about inane shit before, not buying your fairy tale sorry.

>>3644854
If your talent is a lazy asshole, they won't become an idol no matter how hard you try. If they don't have any earnest desire to entertain people, no one will be entertained by them (maybe only ironically, that's how you get lolcows).

>>3644915
Wrong sign.
>Idols in Nijisanji

>>3644736
>they should be aiming for Vshojo fans instead. That seems to be their audience.
You dumbasses keep saying this, but take one look at their twitter replies and it's filled with people with HoloEN avatars and names that literally say "STEVEN (NUMBA WAN KFP EMPLOYEE)"
No, VShojo is not their audience. Hololive obviously has more overlap with Nijisanji, For one there is brand recognition BECAUSE they collab on the DAILY. TOWA IS PLAYING APEX WITH BORA AS WE SPEAK.
THINK DAMN IT, THINK.

>>3644857
They didn't. I wasn't saying every group does it just that it's not uncommon for groups in Nijisanji to have those attributes. I think Orehimeboshi, SMC and Night Kingdom all have songs together for example.

>>3644956
>If this was common sense there would be peace. But as we know peace was never an option.
Kid, you should consider working at Riot Games.

>>3644980
I'm not saying that Vshojo fans are their audience right now. I'm saying that they should aim for those people because these girls obviously won't be doing what HoloEN is doing. They want to be murrican meme queens, just like Vshojo.

>>3644989
And you should consider going outside if you think everyone knows how to avoid conflict.

>>3644980
I fucking hate KFP so much

>>3645131

>>3641800
You will get your JK soon enough, a 2nd part or gen of 3 is all but confirmed at this point

>>3645143
I hate (you) specifically, not your dumb oshi.

>>3642477
I can’t see the resemblance
If she was a passive aggressive asshole all the time like zero that would skyrocket her into Oshi-tier for me though

>>3644790
Hitting the right audience at least.

>>3645216
chinks?

https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1392842194382245893
The hat comes off

>>3645259
fartchads

>>3644883
>what are community servers
seriously, uncle dane servers are full 99% of the time.

>>3643940
Because it’s funny, autist. Just because someone likes that meme doesn’t mean that they are an anti or some shit

>>3644790
>no farts in the ad
Fake.

>>3645276
infinite improvement desu

>>3645343
Dane is a chill guy but I like crits and maps that he doesn't like.

>>3645420
fair, but I'll take it over bots

>>3643940
link?

>>3645348
and... it's already removed

>>3643213
>boring safe Design
>bland gaming taste

Well, maybe she has a great voice or has unique taste in music....

>>3644393
>So, as someone who knows jack shit about Nijis
I didnt stop reading there, but that was the point where I knew your opinion was going to be worthless
>>3644980
Noooo not my competitionerinos!!!! Holo and Niji HATE eachother!!!!

>>3645508
Repost it

Non-Asian women can't be simply cute and nice, something about them must always be "not like other girls" kind of obnoxiousness.
Prove we wrong, you can't.

>>3643940
perhaps they have a sense of humor and not overly sensitive

>>3645508
>>3645348
>>3643940
So, this subreddit is poorly moderated and you can have your anti/doxx post up there for hours if you post at the right time. jesas Niji step it up.

>>3645526
Layton is supreme taste, but we all fucking know what she will be playing.

>>3643913
Fire the NijiENs managers and improve with the next wave of hires.

>>3645508
it was probably the 'retard' more than anything else

>>3645588
They don't have the Chinese to spam it and everyone else isn't going to bother.

no point arguing about them until their debut, stupid thread full of stupid people

>>3645678
Yeah, but this is 4chan what do you expect lol

>>3645640
Wouldn't be surprised if most of this posting about it is the guy who posted it there in the first place. Who gives a fuck about the moderation of a reddit.

>>3645549
Nah that's just white girls. Black girls can be cute and sincere weebs. It's so heavily frowned upon in their culture that only the biggest nerdy autist girls can commit to it.

>>3643915
>Twitter Announcement: 368.5k views 21.3k likes

Holy shit, that's already more than Holomyth's debut trailer. Holoniggers on suicide watch.

>>3645743
When Holomyth was debuting, no one knew about them outside of clipwatchers and /jp/. The whole Vtuber thing was just beginning to explode.
If anything, these girls should be doing bigger numbers than this, I remember how all Gen 2 HoloID got 100k subs on their debut streams.

https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1392848099429715968

>>3645853
>whoring herself out already
Well, that was fast.

>>3644393
>Thinking that 2434 is an idol group
This isn't holoniggers. Don't compare them to holoniggers who are play-"idols" They are given a lot more free reign and "be yourself nobody gives a shit if you follow who your character is supposed to be"
>>3644782
Hololive is a forced safe-space and they aren't allowed any conflict and so much what they can/can't do is policed by the parent company compared to niji's hands-off approach with it all. They are probably doing the idol shit because of a misconception that "Idol group Hololive is popular so they want idols"

>>3639116
That was me, the main reason I described them as gacha characters was based off of the first impression I got watching their trailer, for example I literally just looked up a PV of the first chinese gacha I could think of and the style revealing the characters is so similar it's uncanny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76t71H1pEmc

>>3641844
and as it turned out, it was unjustified. this is what happens when you have a network shill you but you don't have the talent nor skill to back it up.

>>3645853
I want to have a talk with every faggot that said this one had the best roommate

>>3645874
Dragon dia the same yesterday, but fairy's tights are tastier

>>3645838
Delusional. Hololive was already very well known in the West before their debut. Not many people know about Nijisanji in contrast, so these are great numbers.

>>3645743
HoloMyth helped create the vtuber boom in the west after they debut, it’s not really comparable.
They’re not growing fast enough to reach 100k by debut.

>>3645945
She does. Blessed thighs

>>3645838
i learned of hololive around the coco and towa 3D debuts and it was pretty big at that point already in the west

>>3645945
Yes that would be me, what seems to be the problem?

>>3642747
eli and pomus voices are pretty recognizable

fiana doxxed herself by leaving twitch info that matched up with twitter oversharing

Dragon got to 15k. Maybe they will be 20kish at debut?

>>3645881
Do nijiniggers really?

>>3645881
>"be whatever you want"
>they all chose to act like ironic reddit meme whores, farting and reposting the same tired jokes before even debuting
Nice talent group you got there, can't wait to see them banned from ever interacting with Hololive like Vshojo. They might as well drop the avatars, get an inflatable pool, and make some real money.

>>3645853
>>3645874
>Expect something extremely lewd on the level of vshojo
>It's just her thighs

I should stop taking this place seriously.

>>3644782
You're the minority, same kind of people that want male NijiEN but will not watch them and will also not watch the female because they interacted with male. Why would they pander to you when they can do things Hololive style and be at least moderately successful?

>>3645945
>>3645874
I'm thinking Pomu is based
And before you try to imply that holos don't do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y7n6j9-5-Y
t. omaruza

You guys are reaching shaft vs kyoani levels of retardation here

>>3646097
I don’t get it, Polka did the same with her thighs.

>>3646049
Dragon has already almost 30k on twitter, you're looking at the wrong place.

>>3646134
It's fine to do this as a joke like Polka, but don't do it on the first fucking day. It looks desperate no matter who does it like this, be it Pomu or Kiara.

>>3646092
>complains about reddit memes
>watches Hololive, home of the reddit memer Coco

Nice double standards

>>3646134
When hololive does it it's okay but if other groups do it it's bad, common theme on this board.

>>3646134
>Shaft is Nijisanji.
>Kyoani is Hololive.

>>3646092
As if Holo ever intends to colab unless there's an obvious merit in doing so, aside from the select few

>>3646203
it fits like a fucking glove, kyoani fags saying
>no, we are seiso, kyoani doesn't whore their characters
And the next anime they release are fucking Amaburi and Phantom World.

>Hololive is bad because their streamers get along mostly well

Nijiniggers...

>>3644980
Who the fuck cares about Towa/Bora/Apex other than Nijisanji aka Apexsanji fans? Those people collabing will not make Holofans know anything about Nijisanji.

Where are the two people they know from previous V-Tubers from, are they SEA or Americans?

>>3646188
These bitches make Coco look like an actual idol.

>>3644358
Bonni is probably one of the best English-speaking FPS gamer VTuber out there and I would like to see him compete in an Apex tournament.

>>3646283
That was just one (1) example.

>>3641652
Pomu a best!

>>3646302
Just stop, please. You're making us all holofags looking bad, Coconig.

Well this thread is literal shit, keep up the good work retards.

>>3646268
It used to fit even better when it was nijisanji with the janky 3D but they overtook on that.

>>3646147
I'm looking at youtube subs?

>>3646302
Ah yes, shaving your snatch on stream is more idol-like than posting a fart sound from a soundboard.

>>3646282
Tastes vary, big deal.

>>3646302
Please go back to watching Coco laser her pubes out, thanks

>Coconiggers finally get BTFO
Nice. Hopefully, this place goes back to hating that whore.

>>3644311
Kiara, Iofi and Anya are the most proficient in japanese in their generations and they are all the lowest ones as well, compared to their colleagues

>>3646501
coco is a tool to get people to scream at china

>>3646147
theyre talking about youtube subs, the people who should (theoretically) actually bother to watch them

>>3646134
There's no way the retards complaining about legs didn't watch the HoloEN outfit reveals anyway. So unless they are willing to call Gura a disgusting whore too, they are just trying to come up with any ridiculous things they can think of to complain about.

>>3645959
>They’re not growing fast enough to reach 100k by debut.
The fuck are you implying? 10k subs pre-debut already puts them in the top 0.1%, I'm sure they're not disappointed in the slightest.

>>3646302
Anon, Hololive falls in the weird ground of being "idols" but not really idols despite what the marketing implies.

>>3646501
I like both vtuber groups, plus I found Coco too cute during her Yakuza and Terraria streams to hate her.

Well first thoughts from watching the thing on NijiEN.

>awkward fish and chips was cute, I kneel because pandered to (me), friendliest design
>couldn't really understand pandora dragon, love at first light? not bad cute design seems to be the most mature with just that, my fav
>Big Pomu energy, seems to be the most normal and safe
I look forward to the debuts, hope they all speak Japanese for senpai collabs unlike certain other tubers I watch. because it's not necessary mind you but if it were my job I'd do it

>>3646546
Most people don't bother subbing until there is content to watch. Just wait until after debut to see if the Youtube sub count reflects the Twitter follower count.

>>3646377
>>3646546
They haven't done anything on youtube at all. Debut trailer also got way more views on twitter than youtube. Their twitter followers will translate into youtube subs once the actual debut happens.

>Twitter follower count translates into anything
anon...

So make your bets, will these girls be native English speakers or a bunch of SEAnigs?

>>3646723
It does at rate of 2x more youtube subs than twitter followers usually.

>>3646723
I don't use tweeter waiting at youtube but I hear tweeter is for adverting so that's a good thing?

>>3644371
Europoor is cheap and is among the most least to be simp

>>3646724
If the rumors are true all three are burgers.

>>3646803
People normallly follow somebody because they watch their content. They dont watch their content because they follow them on twitter. The twitter follows don't really mean much right now.

>>3643915
>worse numbers than trannyshark fartemis
>BRAAAPPP
Nijibros, I don't feel so good

POMU!

>>3644371
eurobros rightfully save mone for irl slags(gf) instead

If the ad thing is true, then props to Ichikara. They're doing a decent to good job of marketing.

Sucks the debut shares a date with both the AmeGura podcast and meme review.

>>3646906
Look how fucking small she is.
Goddamn that's hot.

>>3646906
smol smol pomu pomu

>>3641800
The problem is that they weren't designed as a group. Each of them is fine, but they don't really have anything in common. That makes you say "these three are a group". At same time though, they all look simillar.

The big issue is that they share a mint-color scheme and even if it's slightly different shades, they just blend together, which is a shame because Elira has a nice and interesting design.

>>3646906
Hey, I've seen someone else do this before

Seems really really familiar

>>3646921
odds are it'll be mentioned on the amegura podcast.
niji and holo branches have worked together, it's not uncommon, odds are they'll even be collabs.
despite what retards on this site will tell you, it's not a zero sum game and there isn't any attempt by either company to sabotage each other.

>>3646873
There's no content to watch right now besides the debut trailer. They have more people following them on twitter because that's where the debut trailer was mostly watched.

>>3647007
At most only Mori from EN will collab with them.
The others are either too shy or have expressed no interest collabing outside of Hololive.

So, which ones are going to stream during EU hours?

>>3647064
none, they're all mutts

>>3647064
they're all burgers. we're stuck with kiara....

There's zero chance they get a colab with holoen
not at least until they reach 1m subs or something enma is content with

>>3647102
Pretty sure 2/3 of them are Canadian actually.

>>3647064
I'm hoping dragon does since she's the one I'm looking forward to the most, but like others have pointed out, the schedules are so heavily american-favoured I imagine it's either I wake up at 4 fucking am to catch streams or I watch archives

>>3647007
since most of them know japanese they will spend a lot of time collabing with their own senpai

kinda disapointed they didn't include any guys in the lineup, one of the things that sets nijisanji apart from hololive for me is that they don't have to maintain that psuedo idol shit where the boy and girl talents need to segregate themselves to the point most EOPs don't even know holostars is a thing.

>>3647007
Why would they mention them on the podcast? I haven't seen ame or gura express interest in nijisanji.

>>3646998
Mom get the camera!

>>3647028
Still dont see how that means that their sub count will be double the follower count, the followers are potential subs but there is no guarentee for any of them to go subscribe.

>>3647116
and? Canada is just boneless USA and not a real country

>>3647116
>gay mutts
as it is any better

>>3647146
Compare the twitter follower counts to the youtube sub counts of the other major vtubers, you'll understand.

>>3647007
I'm pretty sure their manager will scold them if they do give a mention.

>>3647139
they're going to collab with Bonnivier right after their debut anon

>>3646724
I hope they learned from HoloID that rebranding someone as EN doesn't work.

>>3647139
the smart thing I can say for nijien is that right now there's only 3 talents who hopefully probably all speak nip, later they'll get more once they take off and god willing get a good male on the cast because I really like the niji males

>>3647139
It'll probably happen in a future wave, assuming they can find any dudes decent enough at being vtubers.

>>3647007
>might be discussed in the podcast
>Amelia shutdown all possibility of Uto collab by caller her "cousin"
>Gura already doesn't collab with her own Senpais

Yeah, very likely

>>3647211
i want a guy debuting in the EN branch. i'm tired of EN specific branches for just about everything being all girl groups

>>3647269
There will never be a guy in an EN group because that’s not what the people want

>>3646724
I hope they learned from NijiID that rebranding someone as EN doesn't work

>>3647084
>>3647102
>>3647118
I'm not going to grow bitter over it, but I do hope they decide to pander beyond America at some point.

>>3647206
As far as I remember holoen had more subs than followers on debut, so its not the same. But I didnt really check numbers so I could be wrong

>>3647313
that's worthless from a business perspective because all the simp money is in muttland, wait for something EU.
t euro

>>3647313
Really depends when they stream.
Just don’t hope they all stream during NA prime time

>>3647313
There'd have to be talented EU vtubers worth hiring first.
Nina Saotome and that Kani girl are pretty alright but they don't have any interest in joining a company.

I could see a Russian or British or French vtuber being popular but they'd need to scout talented people who are fluent in English and proficient in Japanese on top of their mother tongue. It's quite tough and most people with that skillset aren't interested in being a vtuber when they can do tons of other jobs.

>>3647368
>that's worthless from a business perspective
Just because one market doesn't generate as much money as another, doesn't mean it's not worth pursuing.
Chicken is doing well in SC, even if she moved to Europe and Ina is making bank, without ever trying.

>>3644644
Idol culture is all about selling an image to worship, that 's why it called "idol", it doesn't need to be pure or seiso

>>3647443
>Chicken is doing well
in ARS, USD and JPY, barely any euro supas

>>3647484
>USD and JPY
Hey, still money to be milked at the timeslot.

>>3647064
If that one is indeed Nova she used to stream at pretty decent EU hours pretty regularly I think.
Like morning hours for her, so late afternoon/evening over in Europe.

But looking at that debut stream time they might just switch all their streaming times to US only hours, because that is the only EN market Japanese companies know/care about.

>>3643953
Steve Jobs.

>>3644644
>it's about being sincere and good-hearted

No, it's about PRETENDING to be unrealistically pure and good-hearted to sell a false image for lonely people to obsess over. Real idol culture gets so much shit for a reason, why do you think idols have to avoid or completely hide relationships from fans? You are wrongly using "Idol" to describe just being a decent sincere person.

>>3647435
This is the main problem with the strategy nijisanji seems to be going for, gobbling up indies and giving them a platform. You can't really get anyone who isn't already there. Hololive tends to hire outside of these circles, giving them an talent with skills that go beyond "streaming".

>>3647617
>nijis not being a decent sincere people confirmed

>>3647643
It's interesting because for the main branches Niji/Holo does the opposite

>>3647484
Euros are not stupid enough to throw $$$ at gacha or SC.

>>3647643
>Hololive tends to hire outside of these circles, giving them an talent with skills that go beyond "streaming".
Are we talking about Hololive or Nijisanji? Because that is exactly what Nijisanji did in JP.

>>3647435
The fact that you only know about Nina and Kani tells me you're not been looking very hard, there are tons of Euro vtubers and plenty of them are at least decent enough to be picked up by a company

>>3647689
not with the EN branch.

>>3647690
Post some then. I don't watch EN indies because it's a cringefest, those are just the only ones I've seen discussed on this board and liked what I saw of them.

>>3647064
the next 3

>>3647690
whether they want to join a company and be constantly scrutinized compared to holoEN or even now NijiEN is different. both should eventually get a EU branch out but for now in all practical data the market isn't there, even as a europoster I'm not throwing money at false idols because I'm white and lack no pussygame.

in short they're smart in focusing where the money is

>>3647696
We don't know that. It still in first wave and the girl didn't stream yet. And I doubt they can poach talent like Hololive in global market. Unless they have connections and personally scout them which I doubt it.

>>3647458
By that logic all chuubas (and hell, arguably most streamers in general) are idols.

>>3647142
they'd probably mention them if it ends up being a big event.
if nobody pays it any attention they probably won't?
in terms of collabs, i'm assuming all of the nijiEN girls live in NA and speak english, so it works in terms of timezone and language.

>Australian and a native English speaker
>auditioned for the KR branch because she speaks Korean
>two months later the EN branch auditions were announced
>debuted two weeks before the announcement of NijiEN debuts
>already completely overshadowed
Ban...

>>3647905
receives the worst thought out name ever in the history of vtubing
RIP

>>3647905
>auditioning for Korea branch
Well, that is a poor fucking decision. Unless she felt her skills wouldn't be enough to make it into an (eventual) EN branch.

It seems that hiring Mafumafu was a good idea to rope in the female audience since they currently have no males.

>>3647690
Do you know any? I would love to watch a European girl with an accent, maybe French or British.

>>3647893
Don't know if it'll actually be that big of an event. The fact it trended on twitter is a good sign I guess, but the overlap with hololive streams is making me lower my expectations by a lot.

It'll be interesting to see what the VOD views/sub numbers are like after the debut.

>>3647905
There are many ENVtubers that speak Korean. Ban has a lot of collab potential. Its up to her if shes willing to do collabs are not

>>3647905
I hope she at least collabs with EN at some point, I’ve been saviorfagging hard for Ban but she’s grown on me

>>3648120
how about afrikaans?

>>3647064
wait for next gen

>>3648175
She's already doing collabs. It's one of the main things she's expressed interest in I think.

>>3644782
>>3644956
>>3645039
This is how companies work. In fact, this is how companies in the entertainment industry especially work (or at least it used to be before #MeToo and cancel culture became a thing). Starting drama unnecessarily is a surefire way to get blackballed because no one wants to deal with your bullshit. You are told in companies that at the first sign of conflict you walk away and tell your immediate superior.

Mind you, if you had watched Hololive, you'd know that it's not all sunshine and rainbows, especially when it comes to competitive games.

>>3648219
I know about her.

>>3648444
there's at least 4 of them

>>3647720
>>3648120
I like pic related and SaltyDayo

>>3648592
Of course I forget the pic the one time I make a "pic related" post

competitive games lmfao
at least mention how several figures have blatantly obvious bad blood

>>3648649
Haha yeah there's so much bad blood in Hololive like uh those two right? You remember the ones?

>>3648618
>>3648592
Never heard of them, are they cringe and can they understand Japanese enough to get hired by a Japanese org?

>>3648592
SaltyDayo looks really cute, I like her design. Would follow for now.

I can't believe I just now realized the joke behind fish and chips...I'm a baka.

>>3648762
>can they understand Japanese enough to get hired by a Japanese org
Gura and Ame don't speak a lick of Japanese, that didn't stop them.

>>3647484
>stream in the middle of the night for EU
>Eehhhh? Why are they not superchatting?

I guess Europeans are also less used to shit like US tipping or Asian gambling addiction.

>>3647905
Just collab with EN and she will get Moona effect.

>>3648941
We've already discussed this, Gura and Ame have both struggled to fit in with the rest of the company due to the language barrier. I think Hololive and Nijisanji both learned from that because NijiEN and HoloID2 are all proficient in Japanese. Going forward I don't see these companies hiring more monolingual EN vtubers unless they're some extremely talented individual like Ina or Gura.

>>3649062
What? Kiara is the only one who streams in perfect EU times. In fact I'm watching her right now. Ina comes close too but she tends to drag things out into late night hours.

>>3649165
Nijisanji has been doing it since at least the KR gen that Bora came out in by the looks of it. All the new ones know at least some japanese since then I think.

Is it time to ritualpost?

>>3649175
Kiara always streamed at Japan prime time, when euros were at work.
She's pushed later now she's moved home, but her paypigs were built up before that.

Never have I been more glad to be a Mercoin holder.

>>3649793
pathetic

https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1392882975184916485?s=19
Fuck, looks like she really is in the american time zone... Maybe she wont always be streaming in the middle of the night for me hopefully

>>3649175
>Kiara is the only one who streams in perfect EU times

And Kiara gets the most SC in HoloEN. Really makes you think.

>>3649793
>>3649918
I guess Dragoncoin is the most safe and stable

>>3649918
https://twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1392865034338963457
So turn out she is the Kiara of nijiEN huh

>>3649918
Going off the Discord snapshot that Elira posted yesterday, she is in EDT

>>3650054
Except that when she was still streaming during prime JP time her paypigs were already there. Just like Mori, I bet a large majority of her akasupas are american.

>>3649793
Man this is just so sad,I feel for bullying nijis... For now at least

>>3650133
Only as far as being a raging lesbian. She can actually sing decently and has the self-awareness to not be oppressively annoying and obnoxious when it's not appropriate. Give her a chance anon.

>>3650142
Yeah, seems about right, I was being retarded and for a while and thought you meant the screenshot somehow showed Pomu being in EDT, but yeah, Elira being EDT seems accurate

>>3649793
I find it interesting they aren't following anyone from HoloEN. Wonder if there'll be any interaction.

>>3646906
CONCEPTUALIZE

>>3650513
Iofi and Ollie show up in follows at least

>>3650424
>>3649793
doesn't seem like it's the case

>>3650513
Mori liked Pomu's debut tweet

so they acted like this on twitter in their previous life or they decided to be turboretards just now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--c7xMmcnHU

>>3651738
I fucking hate containment breakers

>>3651778
What did you expect when /vt/ is infested with reddit niggers?

>>3651778
You should read the replies. It's interesting that Japanese actually care what western folk think about their entertainmentindustry.

>>3652070
Well, yeah, obviously, with that title only the nips who care about what foreigners think would even click on the video.

>>3651738
From the comments:
>まぁ十中八九日本のにじとコラボすることも無いんやろうな。その結果どうなるかなんて皆分かってるんじゃない?
>Well, in all likelihood, they won't be collaborating with Niji in Japan. We all know how that turns out, don't we?
Uhh... wat?

>>3651738
>>3652070
>>3651933
like 5ch most dont seem to care about the EN branch at least on a jop side of things.

>>3652107
I think he's refering to that awkward collab between NijiID and one of the jps, though I'm not exactly familiar with nijis either.

ANN Did an article
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-05-13/nijisanji-en-announces-lazulight-virtual-youtuber-group/

>>3650133
>yuri
Don’t do this Pomf.... pls... onegaishimustard....

>>3652183
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-05-13/nijisanji-en-announces-lazulight-virtual-youtuber-group/.172731
Messed up copying the link

>>3650133
>the Kiara of
Why does everything have to be compared to Kiara? I swear it was the same when Holo ID2 got announced

>>3650741
just now since the jp side wont promote them and nijisanji presence on the wesst is 0
we are tlaking about less than 20k subs in 2 days.
Is desperate, but there is no other choice. they need to make noice or be forgotten

>>3643213
Damn that's a shame, dropped.

>>3652312
Shouldn’t you be paying attention to English lessons instead of shitposting online mr. SEA

>>3652370
is still the true. they need to make as much noise as possible hence the rampant los memes and shitty jokes.
niji doesnt exist on the west it depends on these girls to put a foot.

For some reason, I believe in the dragon the most. She seems like a nice girl, more so than the other two.

>>3652312
People from JP are promoting and interacting with them though
>>3642340

>>3643213
>apex
There goes the third one.
Didn't even debut and NijiEN already filtered me.

>>3652459
i mean the top dogs of nijiJp. those are the ones that carry wieght

>>3652312
>since the jp side wont promote them
They literally got ads, NijiJPs and even a JP musician to work with them. They basically stopped short of establishing a streaming blackout to promote their debut.

>>3652514
So you say jp won't promote them, get given examples and then move to no not those they don't count? Hoshikawa and Inui are some of the most well known members of Nijisanji in their target audience regardless of branch.

>>3652632
im saying the most important ones are not promoting them. you know the ones with the most fans.
People bring the numebrs on the trailer in twitter. Niji has always had more presence on twitter than cover, even now but it doesnt translate to views on youtube as we see with the current subs and numberfaggin vidoes.
They are on their own and wont have any boost from the jp side of things.
so yeah the efforts aren't enough.

>>3652632
I will argue that Hoshikawa even have cross agency clout given her relationship with Matsuri for what that is worth. At least the western market will know her.

>>3652754
Same with Inui and her frequent Suisei collabs.

>>3642997
>clear and pure

>>3652730
Those really aren't looking too bad though? I think the last batch they released on JP side were around 20-30k on debut and that's where these girls look like they're going to end up.

>>3652974
oh no, is doing fine.
But how desperate these girls seem to be tweeting makes me fear they are expecting bigger numbers, so with haring mafu.

>>3653149
Kind of seems like they've calmed down a lot already to me.

>>3653276
we will see

>>3653149
I doubt that anyone applying to Nijisanji is clueless enough to expect Holo numbers. They're already way above the typical indie, too, so I don't think they're complaining.
And I'm pretty sure they're only tweeting because it's all they're allowed to do for now. I expect them to tone it down when they can actually stream instead.

>>3653428
is not so much the are tweeting but the quality of the tweets.

>>3653428
if they were who people say they are then they're all going to have more subs days before debut that they ever had before

>>3653428
The only one I would expect to have any hints of regret is mermaid since she supposedly almost made it into Hololive. Also Hololive auditions opened up right after she got accepted to Nijisanji.
Fairy was a Nijisanji fan to begin with so she’s fine.

>>3649918
Maybe she will be the first non-holo to collab with Gura since they're in the same timezone.

Their youtube accounts were created on the 22nd April.

>>3653705
Yeah, so far I’m liking Pomf, dragon seems cool, but I’m not really feeling Braapfish too much. We’ll see as people have said

So are those Ghost, Dragon nad notTowa indies or did they pick someone else for NijiEN?

>>3655042
They were outed as retired indies as soon as they opened their mouths. Unless everyone has been completely off base, of course.

>>3655110
I believe one had revamped live2d done like 3 days before retiring, the ghost one.
I can't remember what they were called though.

>>3655150
Right, one of them was the one you are thinking of. Personally I've already risked the Wrath of Mod since the reveal vid several times, but their names are all over the place recently so they'll show up again.

>>3655223
So they are indeed those three that people thought about, that's all the info i needed, thanks anon.

I feel like something is wrong with me. I hate all three designs, they look completely terrible to me but everywhere I look people seem to love them.

>>3655691
You had a lot of people not in love with the designs, but discussion of that ended after the twitter storm. Most of the interest now is in how interesting they are going to be as streamers and as a group.

>>3655691
I think they're fine. None of them is a type that particularly appeals to me but I don't think they're close to being bad.

>>3652107
I think he's talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnInuWbbPk8

>>3655691
You're not along, I hate them as well. Most people have no sense of taste and will gobble up anything shiny looking.

What the fuck happened here? I have heard of YouTube purges, but losing half their subs?

>>3656488
seems like brapfag is winning after all