/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>36485030

>>36485030
okay

>>36485030
but she just cant leave your mind uh?

>>36485030
Is Kronii the Spreadsheetanon? Is he still alive? Has he appeared on any recent threads?

>>36485030
>is on the spreadsheet
what the fuck does it mean?

>>36485942
I think OP is mentioning about a certain Kronie that would keep a spreadsheet with all "Nameronies" replies, comments and tweets.

Spreadsheetronie/Spreadsheetanon said it was to "Keep kronies in check"

>>36486097
what's the purpose of doing that?
sounds creepy as fuck.

>>36485030
>>36485942
>>36486097
/vt/ is beyond salvation.

>>36485113
Why do roasties always use that card when they get cornered?

>>36485030
I bet I can get it shorter. She's a whore.

>>36485030
Why did you ever become a paypig? Surely, you could realize this from the get go, right?

>>36486338
Women want it both ways; anyone who criticizes me is an incel and should touch grass, but also if you don’t watch me do whatever I want you’re an incel. A lot of females cannot come to grips with the fact that they are not a man’s first option.

>>36485030
>>36486372
Kronie here. Kronii is appealing because she is definetly on the spectrum just like her fanbase OwO :3.

>>36486161
Being on the spreadsheet means you are popular, that's enough reason for attention whores to want to be there :)

>>36485030
>Kronii is a below average streamer and always has been
Yet you still joined her membership, who's the dumbass here?

>>36485030
She is not just below average, she is close to the bottom in my book.

>>36485942
Kronii had a certain set of regulars she would talk to and respond to, often by name. These people were more likely to get read in a stream than others. The rrat is she has a spreadsheet of her favorites.

>>36486338

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>>36486097
now i'm confused.
who keeps that spreadsheet?
kronii or a certain kronie?

>>36485030
And yet...here you are...spending your time talking about her. Says a lot about how satisfied you are with your actual oshii.

>>36488040
The rrat is Kronii keeps a spreadsheet but there are also Kronies so mentally ill they keep their own spreadsheet of who gets read and how often so they can seethe about it.

Unfortunately, idol culture is a thing.

>popularity contests and attentionwhoring
Is this highschool all over again?

>>36488319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrxI_euTX4A

>>36488319
>No one is bullying me for being Armenian
Yep, seems like it's not.

>>36486097
I take back anything I said about Teamates being the worst fanbase.

GWS, OP.

>>36485030
You're right, but why did you feel the need to make a thread about it?

>>36488486
I wish the Turks finished the job.

>>36488040
>>36488147
The true rrat is called singularity, it days that all Kronies are Kronii (including spreadsheet anon, this being on Kronii's spreadsheet means you are on anon's spreadsheet too).

>>36486161
>>36486249
oh okay but when a chumpedo does it its suddenly ok, you fucking hypocrites
fuck you and your whore shark

>>36488147
>>36488602
oh well, i guess i'm safe because i never watch her lives, only a few clips (probably less than 10).

>>36488602

>>36488736
take your clothes off slowly

>>36488729
shark girl good; clock girl bad

>>36488602
meds

>>36488729
my oshi is a 2view and i haven't sent her any supas because i'm broke rn.

>>36488729
The chumbud is doing it in case one of the paypigs goes schizo. The Kronies do it because they ARE schizo. There was a Kronie who took notes on every Kronie that got a meet and greet with Kronie because he was jealous he didn't win the lottery to meet her. So he hung out by the lobby area and literally wrote down what he saw on every Kronie that got to meet her. He also sends super creepy supas.

>>36488799
This but unironically

>>36488729
Wasnt there a deadbeat schizo who doxxed an entire doxxcord?

>>36485030
Every HoloEN fits into this description

>>36489012
Except Kiara

>>36488806
>>36488785
>>36488736
>>36488734
>>36488602
No meds, it's real.

>>36486097
Damn
Makes sense why she hates a part of her fanbase

>>36485030
Yeah but she has huge tits and a nice voice I guess so men will forgive her. Doesn't matter if she's a whore that collabs with males now people will still watch her because of her sex model. And because men like gigastacies that have multiple boyfriends. Makes them more attractive.

>>36489924
Meds

>>36488884
And people rightly mock that particular Kronie all the time.

/infinity/ has a few regulars who post a lot so it’s easy to get gaslit into thinking more people actually approach that topic with any seriousness outside of 1 or 2 people.

>>36489377
Atleast post the updated one

>>36490157
Hmmm, some of these died right?

>>36489924
You become more wrong the longer you talked, I can actually believe you're a femanon, because
>makes them more attractive
Is a projection of how girls think

>below average streamer and always has been
But that's IRyS

>>36492003
Gyaru hate

>>36490540
You guys say the exact same thing though so why is it different when reversed? Don't you call manwhores "gigachads" and claim that women like that kind of garbage? I'm not wrong anyways since vshojo is incredibly popular so yes guys do find it attractive when women talk about their boyfriends and sex constantly.

>>36492357
Literally wrong on every account, I’m almost impressed.

>>36485113
Well considering it vt, i guess she right.

>>36492357
>why is it different when reversed?
Because men and women are inherently different. Women ACTUALLY see the fact other women are attracted to her partner as a desirable trait. Men don't. We really, really don't.
>Don't you call manwhores "gigachads"
Yes, because men have to work for it. Women are the gatekeepers of sex; the key and keyhole comparison didn't come from nowhere, femanon.
>So yes guys do find it attractive when women talk about their boyfriends
Nope. See the drop on veibae, nyanners, Ame, etc, ay bf yab really.
>and sex
Yes. See how shilily rocketed up, she pulls off "cute whore" perfectly.

>>36492357
How was >>36490540 so spot on? Your response right now makes no sense to me (a guy), incredible, girls are really senseless.

>>36492712
I can understand the seethe, we(men) as a whole tend to endure too much shit from physically attractive females. Especially when big tits are involved. Some go as far as accepting being outright cucks and share their gfs, as long as they can still smash. It's just that she doesn't understand dudes, so she's getting everything else wrong.

That said, anyone who has a shred of dignity and/or wanted to see Kronii as more than a pair of tits has already left. I know I did, like three months after her debut.

>>36486544
It is interesting how Kronii never called anyone an incel yet she gets treated as if she did.

>>36485113
She expected too much of the average vtuber viewer here... No good deed/word goes unpunished.

>>36485030
She’s a bad streamer but an interesting person and personality and that’s enough for her to be my oshi

>>36485113
I know she meant this jokingly, but it was still an incredibly stupid thing to say given how reasonable the people who were voicing their concerns were.

>>36486338
For normalfags, having both male and female friends is a sign that you’re not a schizo. If you don’t have friends of the opposite gender, it means you can’t be trusted. I legitimately think Kronii wasn’t trying to insult anyone, I think she really thought most of her viewers had friends of the opposite gender and was genuinely disturbed to find out how many don’t.

>>36490629
IRyS is a good streamer in that she’s very good at avoiding dead air, reading chat and reacting in the proper way to the game she’s playing, but her personality feels very shallow and she doesn’t put her heart and soul into the thing she was hired for (her music)

>>36493557
That whole line was directed at the people who were sending her the “lol enjoy your new boyfriend” supas and idiots keep parroting it as if she was somehow lashing out at her fanbase in general.

>>36493757
>that whole line was directed at the people who were sending her the “lol enjoy your new boyfriend” supas
Bullshit. It was directed at the people who were against her collabing with males in general, which she mistakenly assumed was only the people sending rude supas and messages. That whole end of her stream was a complete mess since she clearly didn't know what was actually going on within her own community. That's why her next member stream was her literally trying to understand where the CGDCTfags were coming from since she was so confused on the topic.

>>36485030
Kronii agrees dude, but I still find her entertaining.

>>36493757
That's the whole issue. These people are the 'bad guys' and in trying to deal with them, she tied the trait of 'not having female friends' to fueling them and their behavior. Then it turns out many of her audience don't have female friends. What do you think people are going to take away from that?

>>36493117
This. You always hear about "my girlfriend's husband" all the time in articles and stories. Men don't mind sharing women and they're seen as more valuable to men because they belong to someone. That's why the girls that collab with men still have lots of fans.

>>36493180
Let's just say the unicorn outfit for the worms collab wasn't a coincidence.

>>36485113
Look, this lead many incels to suicide.

>>36494261
>men don't mind sharing women and they're seen as more valuable to men because they belong to someone
lol no. Why did you come back just to pretend to be a male, femanon? You stick out like a sore thumb

>>36494240
Because lots of people here are clip watchers and will take out of context screenshots at face value without bothering to actually go and watch the VOD

>>36488799
Correct

>>36493672
It's not though. If your gf finds out you have a female friend be prepared for a barrage of questions and insecurity.

>>36494261
Jesus Christ, if you’re going to larp as a guy, at least try and write shit based in reality and not off of the cheap smut romance books you can pick up at the grocery store.

>>36485030
her tits are a massive buff for me

>>36494153
She was playing a little dumb, she absolutely understands the appeal of CGDCT she wasn't completely ignorant. People forget that she was originally on team no male collabs. (She didn't mention Tempus at all when they debuted).

>>36494261
That's a fucking meme. Holy shit, how stupid can you be?

>>36494240
She also has lesbian fans who weren't happy about the male collabs either, so it's good that she kept gender neutral.

>>36494439
>lots of people here
That's the overwhelming majority of the Hololive audience.
In any case, offense is taken, not given. No amount of context can alter the fact that she associated 'not having female friends' with, at the very least, propensity for undesirable behavior.
It's a faux pas on the level of being on some crime investigation show and opening your speculation with 'Was the murderer African-American?' Sure, you're talking about this particular guy, not all the black people out there. Try telling them that 'context matters'.

>>36489377
>>36490157
the only name i know is gabe

>>36490157
When was this updated, June? So, much is wrong here.

>>36494261
I'll sponfeed you: for us, the only time a girl with a bf/husband is superior to one without is when we can fuck them and let the other party deal with the consequences. We don't believe you are more valuable because you're dating; hell, you're LESS valuable because you're dating while also giving us attention/sex.

Girls that do that shit lose a lot of fans, just look at Finana. It's just that they already had a lot to begin with, and Kroniies in specific are homossexual doormats.

>>36496069
>Kronii is homosexual
>Kronies are homosexual
They are the...

>>36495816
Yes actually

>>36496069
You’re aware that we’re talking about streamers right?

>>36496069
At best you could say Kronii was incredibly naive in how her situation played out, but that one tweet after her return from the soft suspension paired with the statement that the EN account put out smelled of management meddling because they didn’t want people to consider their new toy as a clearly toxic asset considering how anyone who has associated with them so far still gets harassed over it.

>>36497019
Follow the comment chain, I was clearing a misconception of the (probably underage) femanon.

>>36497680
That management tweet was Kronii's idea or at least that's what she insinuated. She was upset with the lack of support from management prior to the break.

>>36497019
>streamers are streamers
>service workers are service workers
kek

>>36497872
management told her to shut the fuck up, she instead had several women moments, and she cry for lack of support? bitch just learn from your friend gura how to weather the storms, deserved or not.
but she craves the attention of the twitter trannies so she has to be a fucking retard, at least i'm enjoying the death spiral of her channel, if EN3 has a big titty hag that know her worth shes donzo.

>>36485113
Would she say the same thing to women who don't like guys collabing with girls or female vtubers who don't like collabing with guys?

>>36498220
>management told her
Considering how she got a new manager because the old one constantly left her on read as it relates to responding to things she wanted to do for months apparently, I’m more tempted to believe EN management genuinely was unprepared for this kind of shit to happen, or at least didn’t think it would blow up like it did.

>>36499435
Or they just didn't care which is worse.

>>36485030
She plays games I like.

>>36493672
Honestly, I can sympathize, because I would have assumed the same before seeing this site. Almost everyone I know has both male and female friends.

Although, seeing an anon genuinely unable to understand why Vesper would offer to help pay for Axel's group cover made me a bit sad. Seems like some people on /vt/ really don't know what it's like to have a truly supportive male friend either.

>>36493180
>never called anyone an incel
She literally called them "maidenless".

>>36501075
That is a meme from a video game. The only ones who are hearing incel are the people who are trying to hear incel.

>>36501333
Yes, a meme way of saying incel. If not, what do you think it means?

>>36501423
Given how she asked beforehand whether or not we had friend of the opposite sex I assumed it to mean don't be friendless.

>>36501075
It was a self-own since she's maidenless too.

>>36501556
Are you retarded? That's the biggest fucking reach in history.

>>36501605
Why would she call her chat an insult that would actively apply to herself as well? Do you even watch Kronii?

>>36501605
NTA, the context was she was upset with people shipping her with Astel. She just sees the guys as business friends and she doesn't want people to make it weird.

>>36501673
I don't know, because she's a cunt? Do me a favour, google "maidenless meaning" for me and read all of the definitions ranging from "adult virgin" to "can't get bitches". You're telling me that she had some completely different definition in mind compared to what everyone else understands it to mean, and you somehow telepathically understood this?

>>36501685
I understand the context, it doesn't change the fact that she said it.

>>36501685
>Astel
anon?

>>36501941
Altare woops

>>36501940
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Maidenless
Kronii doesn't have any bitches or hoes at the moment dude, she single.

>>36501941
I meant Regis.

>>36501940
I never claimed Kronii was smart or knew what other connotations the term would have. It is obvious to any long time and loyal Kronies, such as myself, that she was not saying it in a malicious manner. In fact the only people who are thinking she was being malicious are people who are outsiders.

>>36499435
>I’m more tempted to believe EN management genuinely was unprepared for this kind of shit to happen, or at least didn’t think it would blow up like it did.
We know EN management from most if not all corpos is /here/, and surely they're aware of the negative sentiment against male/female collabs, especially in Holo.
If they chose to ignore the warning signs here and instead chose to believe the homobeggar festering grounds and yesmen hugboxes that are reddit and twitter, then they're pants-on-head retarded.
>>36502895
For a channel to grow, it effectively needs to produce content that does 2 things: a) continues to please its existing audience and b) attracts outsiders.
Calling potential audience maidenless, a joke that in your words would require being a long-time viewer to not misinterpret, may drive potential audience away, failing point b). If she keeps doing that, along with some old time viewers that drop her due to drama/boredom/etc, she will enter a decline.
>t-then you should be pro male/female collabs since they bring outsiders
They do, but that dissatisfies some of her old/current audience, failing point a), and the amount of viewers gained may not be enough to cover the loss.
If her aim is to rid herself of her old audience, then she, and subsequently you cuckronies, should be ready to see her numbers drop.
>Inb4 numberfag
Lower numbers means that, now, less people enjoy her, more people dislike her, she loses fame, confidence, income, success. Surely you want your oshi to be successful, right?

>>36504510
Let me start off by saying that I am against male collabs. I would prefer Kronii do her own thing with us or with the other girls. That being said, it is well known among us Kronies that she has hampered her own growth and seems to truly want a smaller community of familiar loyalists. It is basically Fuhrerprinzip applied to Vtubing. As one of these "cuckronies," as you call us, I would not mind being apart of a smaller community if it makes my oshi happy. If more people dislike her, so what? As long as she has us the opinions of outsiders will never matter.

>>36504834
>If more people dislike her, so what? As long as she has us the opinions of outsiders will never matter.
We both know that people, especially women, especially content creators, are more easily influenced by negative opinions rather than positive ones. More people disliking her equates more people shittalking her, either behind her back or directly at her. If she can brush the hate off, cool, but from what I understand she's not the most stable mentally, so it's likely disapproving comments will live in her head rent free, despite your support.
>I am against male collabs. I would prefer Kronii do her own thing with us or with the other girls
>As one of these "cuckronies," as you call us, I would not mind being apart of a smaller community if it makes my oshi happy
If what makes her happy is male collabs, which you are against, yet you still stay, are anons wrong to call you cuckronies?
>seems to truly want a smaller community of familiar loyalists
Then she can leave Hololive, seems to have worked for Rushia and Coco. Too bad she has less viewers and revenue, meaning she'd go broke soon after.

>>36504834
This is true, but her wanting to be less popular still comes from an unhealthy place imo. I however, selfishly like our cult like community, we may be even worse than KFP.

>>36505948
NTA you seem to be a reasonably intelligent person, why are you misusing the word cuck? None of us are in a relationship with her.

As for me, as long as she's making the content that made most of us fans of her in the first place (like what's happened the last two weeks). I don't care if she does the occasional male collab that I can easily skip.

>>36504834
>As long as she has us the opinions of outsiders will never matter.
Kek I honestly think viewers with this attitude are what she wants gone most of all

>>36507095
of course it doesn't matter for the viewers, they are not the target.
kronii is the target, she's the one feeling those hatred aimed at her.

>>36507095
Watch streams. She avoids reading Superchats from names she doesn't recognize, especially if they're grey.

Men don't have female friends. Now, you might know someone who does and they might tell you they are friends. But there's an approximately 100% chance he wants to bone her, which means the friendship is fake and based on deception. Thus, men don't have female friends.
But Kronii is ethnically Korean, and things are somewhat different in Asia, so she may just not understand despite living in leafland.

>>36507815
Honestly you sound like a loser, anon.

Holofags would be a lot less schizo if their oshi actually streamed. Lots of these things smell of people that have way too much free time.

>>36485030
Based. Let these hoes know.

>>36493672
This more than anything lost me. She didn't know her audience, and she could never understand introverts if she thinks having friends at all is an obvious thing and easy to maintain or do.

>>36488040
Kronii, she plays games with them in her roomate's Patreon streams

After reading this thread I will never again complain when a holo seems to be taking her privacy too far.

>>36490042
Infinity is full of fucking schizos, Rice isn't the only one. There isn't a single sane Kronie, all of them should be fucking gassed desu.

>>36494261
>Men don't mind sharing women
holy shit it's a femanon in the wild.
Go back to crystal cafe. you know absolutely nothing about men

>>36486097
and they say vt is bad

I have never been membered to Kronii, and don't watch her alot, but I'm currently watching RE right now and enjoying it.

I also enjoyed her 12 minutes, and her Frostpunk whatever. Just enjoy the content you like and don't engage with the content you don't.

>>36485030
How will you make her improve?

>>36485030
She is a good VA though.