/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>36470195
>No ones been forced out or graduated yet
Nope its still not safe

>>36470195
>>magni menhera
Explain.

>>36470195
The Magni menhera is just a nothingburger.

>>36470195
its why I went back to watching JP, only watching decent the ones in EN.

>>36470296
>t. homobeggar cope

>>36470293
not menhera, just an ungrateful grifter

>>36470337
Explain.

>>36470337
Explain so I can report :)

>>36470328
Let me know if you got any actual yabs other than RM tweets. Holotranny.

this stupid board should be proof alone that men can be and are just as menhera if not worse than women

i hate all of you

>>36470391
you dont hate me thats just menhera in you talking you said you wont say that to me anymore...

>>36470345
He vagueposted on his RM account complaining about his shitty model.

>>36470430
Thanks for the explanation. That isn't grifting by any reasonable sense of the word.

>>36470451
It's not this incident that makes him a grifter. A grifter still he is.

>>36470451
he publicly called his model ugly, insulting the work of the artist behind it. I dont think thats ever been done before in hololive. its something that he without a doubt is getting disciplined for

>>36470195
No. They enabling all of this. Corpos are self-destructing because they managed by bunch of retards chasing mythical bigger new audience.

>>36470391
You're partially right, but I really hope you're not assuming this board is all men. This is the seething 2view board.

>>36470504
I don't see it as a issue, if you have a problem talked about it instead of being "Yes" man all the time. Shit happen on FGO too where everyone call out how shit that character art is.

>>36470195
And you guys said women are the real menheras

>>36470389
OH NO NO NO SISTERS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES WHO DOXX, NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING BACK.
RETREAT TO DISCORD WE NEED NEW YABS

>>36470504
nigga his model IS fucking ugly. altare is the only person in the group with at least remotely decent rigging. it is why people were taking the piss out of them in the first place.
what`s up with this management cocksucking anyway? are you just falseflagging?

>>36470195
I didn't understand a single word you just said but I had fun watching the funny blue rabbit earlier today.

>>36471920
How can you tell the difference in rigging though?

>>36471920
>his model IS fucking ugly
fits his personality, what's he complaining about again?

Why is it ok for IRyS to hate on her current model but not for Magni?

>>36472481
IRyS doesn't publically abuse her artist, and is in fact supportive of him.
Your homo bitch is utterly disrespectful. That's why. He deserves that model.

>>36470504
1)his model is ugly
2)many chuuba have done this, chiefly flare. even coco complained when they wouldnt give her the ass she wanted.

>>36472516
yeah her using a billion filters and publically campaigning for a change isnt just as insulting

jesus christ you fucking people

>>36470563
if you have a problem with your model you bring it up with management in private and get shit changed if you think you can, you don't complain about it on a roommate account so that you're somehow both being public and going behind the artist's back. he's not fighting for change, he's being a high school girl

>>36470504
Get a load of this corp bootlicker

>>36470504
His model is ugly retard. I actually respect him for striving as long as he did. If i were him the moment i saw my model i'd call it quits right there

>>36472733
If only he would

>>36472546
>coco complained when they wouldnt give her the ass she wanted
It's worth mentioning that Coco had at least 1 change made to her face (nose). There's no reason why Magni couldn't get his face reworked. However, I think he should have worked this out privately and simply asked for changes based on "feedback received from listeners", and the artist would have been more than happy to fix his shit in 10 minutes and send it off to the rigger.

>>36472621
for all we know, he did do that and they told him know. i expect that once he gets a new outfit he'll use it in protest like flare did until she got the reworks she wanted.

His model is cool, he has so many different accessories with the arms and stuff. I thought he enjoyed them.

>>36472964
i'm pretty sure it would be fine with minor adjustments

>>36472576
>publicly campaigning
She was privately campaigning, like a professional. We didn't find out about it until it was approved.

>>36472964
He does. He likes fiddling with those extra arms and accessories. The problem lies in his fucking face.

>>36472964
It's a kino character design but a garbage model.

>>36473068
What's this about filters though.
>>36472888
What did flare do, sister.

>>36472845
>and the artist would have been more than happy to fix his shit in 10 minutes and send it off to the rigger.
That's not how it works at all. Irys had her rework held back by management hell for ages even though her artist was available to do it (and willing to) and could probably do it fairly fast.

>>36470504
are you fucking kidding me? THEY'RE CORPORATE. corporate business dealings do not take people's feelings into account (and for good reason). if something is bad, tell them and ask them to redo it. that's all there is to it. he's also not the first to complain about his model, what the fuck are you on about? even gura has made fun of the rigging of her model, the one hailed as the seiso savior of the EN branch.

>>36472309
range of emotions. magni has this blank 1000yard stare, axel scowls 99% of the time, vesper can at best smile, and altare has whopping 4(four!(4!!!)) different facial expressions.

>>36470563
>Shit happen on FGO too
Are you too dumb and/or ESL to understand the difference between an employee talking shit in public and customers?

>>36472964
The concept is cool, but you can't deny the artstyle and rigging is absolute shit

THEIR MANAGER IS A FUCKING MONKEY

>>36470504
>all these apologetics
Kill yourselves, faggots. This is the most nigger of moves. Even Gura of all people didn't publicly bitch about her shitty rigging.

>>36473421
You've clearly never worked in a corporation before. Yes, you should bring attention to issues, but not publicly. That's just bad PR.
What Gura does is actually great PR, making the poor rigging into a joke instead of bitching about it. Magni got this for free at the beginning with the while MAGGED meme, he should have just leaned into it. Instead we now know that he's actually seething about it.

>>36470195
Males vtubers seem a lot stranger than regular fleshtubers.

>>36473338
Yes, but Irys is from HoloEN and their management is super retarded. Stars management was/is superior to Hololive. This has been proven multiple times with game permissions, costumes, more lax collab restrictions and so on.

>>36472964
His character design is kino, especially if you look at his reference sheets with the sheer level of autistic passion that went into it. The problem is his eyes are too far apart, all he needs is a minor fix and better rigging.

>>36470391
this

>>36470195
>magni menhera
>vesper backing up the menhera (shows collusion)
>vox akuma menhera
I don't get it. What's the problem here? I thought chicks dig menheras

>>36474009
Only EN. JP male vtubers were pretty based since the beginning. Nekomasu, Baacharu, Peanuts-kun, Virtual Gorilla, and then the Stars like Roberu, Aruran and Oga, all pretty cool.
EN is already hard grifting, and then you get male EN so it becomes a grift of a grift of a grift of a grift, so we only get shit people. I kinda like that nigger Sun Kenji though, but just for the clips.

>>36474190
you're kidding yourself. king of the menheras astel is in stars. and roberu is a fickle bitch.

>>36474227
For JP, they're exceptions. For EN, they're the rule. And Roberu's great, kys.

>>36470504
It is ugly. When the homos were revealed everyone /here/ was laughing at how ugly it was. It was so fucking ugly that anons made him into a meme.

>>36474190
I don't follow them much, but Vesper continues to seem like an alright, sensible guy.

Man, she made so many spare hand things and put so much love into the design itself, it just feels like a shitty thing to say

I understand why people think the face is fucked up, I get the same feeling from her FGO art but I still like Shirow as an artist. She doesn’t deserve to be tagged in this though. People have this attitude of “they deserve it if they did a bad job” but she really didn’t, it’s just her style looks fucked up on a vtuber. Sort of like redjuice but I think if she was asked to adjust it she probably would, so I don’t understand why he has to go menhera other than he’s EOP and doesn’t think she can read it.

>>36470504
>insulting the work of the artist behind it.
You mean like how this whole board did during his debut?

>>36474325
1)he didnt tag her
2)he did it on his roommate without directly naming anything
3)from the comments on his debut it should be obvious that he likes the concept, but it is an undeniable fact the face is fucked up

>>36474251
And not only this board, there was a ton of people on twitter and reddit complaining about this too. That purple vtuber news guy had a whole segment about it.

Everyone knows it's shit.

>>36474622
ARE WE STILL MAGGING SISTERS

>>36474365
I don't care who has issues with their model, I'm sure it's the case for others, but keep that private.

A very embarrassing display from cock lovers side kek

>>36470345
>>36470371
>>36415520

>>36477192
Yeah, the sisters are good at slandering the actual talent of the company, but when the knife's aimed at their precious homos they crumble. Pathetic really.

>>36470195
add to that or the nijihomo luca shit apparently he molests nijigirls, Pomu in particular. Had some other yabs too like when he used Towa and Okayu bgms without asking or how he killed minecraft server he's probably the worst of the worst from what I understand.

>>36474009
Afaik popular twitch streamers (most of them male) are even worse that's why I never watched this faggots.

>>36474252
he's a leech with no spine

>>36477192
the homo defense squad response time gives me a good laugh
they're always quick on the scene

>>36473305
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>>36478135
>he killed minecraft server
kinda based ngl

>>36470504
>he publicly called his model ugly, insulting the work of the artist behind it.
Who cares, artists are all fucking lazy mentally ill faggots I don't care how much FGO or whatever other kuso game paid them

>>36472964
The concept is kino but the execution sucks and his rigging isn't much better.

>>36470504
>he publicly called his model ugly
they gave him a a model that has the downs, he is on his right to complain
to bad he pussied out and didn't do it on his main account

>>36472546
Coco was stuck on a permanent ahegao on her first model and its hilarious. She always made fun of it.

>>36479007
So was your mother after I finished with her.

>>36470504
>its ok when we do it
>its bad when he does it
ogey. cant tell if you guys are corpo bootlickers or not

>>36473971
>>36473978
If publicly raging and threatening the company works for the left, it should work the same for anyone else

>>36480292
>homobeggar defence force
>ESL
Every time

>>36480661
Dramaniggers on /vt/ are the biggest hypocrites, what surprise.
This isn't even anything interesting. Literally everyone knows Magni got a shit model and faggots here are acting like it's suddenly a big deal when Magni himself admits it.

>>36480661
>IRyS shits on her model
>Holy based! Fuck Redjuice, let's constantly ask when her shit fucking brown skin model is getting updated!

>Magni shits on his model
>Uhhhh BROS? He can't just do that, he's disrespecting his artist, that uh...one FGO fujo one...yeah, we can't let him get away with it.

>>36481035
You could just stay on discord you know, you don't need to glow up the board with your shit takes

>>36481035
>IRyS shits on her mode
?

>>36481225
these niggas don't even be pretending to watch streams

>>36470296
he's mostly just stupid and rude as expected from a twitch faggot.

>>36478135
>apparently he molests nijigirls, Pomu in particular
nigga

>>36474016
>free to collab with twitch scum
>based management

kill yourself faggot

>>36474251
and that meme probably helped him more than anything, this retarded faggot should understand that pretty boy model is a debuff in hololive just look at his genmates Regis and Axel both have the lowest numbers.

>>36471920
>altare aka the least popular tempiss member 1k or less shitter

gee sister that blue model sure buffed him

>>36481152
Everything I posted is 100% factual.

>>36477213
Dead post. Explain

>beggars talking about numbers unironically for their 3 views

>>36470195
>vesper backing up the menhera (shows collusion)
Don't tell me her roommate tweeted too about it. Why?

>>36482595
Ogey
Back to discord beggar, you can cry with your sisters in your safespace about your flop branch

>>36470296
You retards call everything a nothingburger. Rushia leaking dm's to gook keemstar was a nothingburger according to /vt/.

>>36482619
kys newfag ledditor

>>36470195
They act like sobbing teenage girls

>>36482775
Pls andastand, calling it a nothingburger is the only deflection the discord sisters have left, don't call them out on it

>>36472964
He's a normie who thought he was going to get a Vox design

>>36474365
He knows antis are going to tag and translate it to his mama you braindead retard.

>>36470504
You dont have to hate the fag to realize his model is fucking ugly. Maybe if Irys shat on hers more openly Cover would had sped up her 2.0.

>>36482933
Vox design and rigging is kinda mid imo

>>36474325
Yeah it's poor form to insult another professional artist. As an artist himself, you'd think Magni would understand that. She's a better artist than he could ever be. And I like him. But there's levels. I honestly think a bigger problem with all of the stars model was the rigging--but Cover isn't going to break the bank on fucking 3views. So know your role, chuuba.

Magni definitely is the one who gives off the "i'm too good for this" vibe--I also get the sense that he'd love for cover to fire him and use the drama to inflate his RM account.

>>36482729
>Beggar
Nigger you're accusing me of making shit up when all that's 100% objective. Watch streams, and stop pretending you give a shit about some poor fujoshit artist.

>>36482678
>her
rrats?

>>36483276
rent free
Back to discord

>>36480661
If you can't see the difference between him criticizing his model and everyone else criticizing it, then I can't help you. He was given that model for free and he was allowed to be in the Hololive Productions box which is not something just anyone is allowed to do. But rather than be respectful and grateful, it's nonstop bitching with this guy. It's spoiled. If you don't like it, then graduate. Otherwise, shut up and make the best of it. Don't insult other artists who have accomplished things his dumbass will never be able to do.

>be bune
>debut with one of the goofiest looking models ever
>make do with it
>eventually turn into one of the most iconic faces of vtubing by embracing the character

>be homo
>debut with one of the goofiest looking models ever
>get memed into success because of it
>bitch about it on twitter

>>36483106
Luxiem had the best male vtuber designs as a generation that I've seen. I don't know why all the niji designs afterward went back to that techwear shit. A man in some kind of uniform/suit will always be sexy.

>>36483418
Meds, fujosister.

>>36483593
I agree they're very strong for appealing to the demographic that they do but none of them are particularly striking to me aside from maybe Luca, even Vox looks just like someone out of a Chinese web novel. I have trouble remembering them in ways that I don't have trouble remembering manga or anime characters. I do wish to see what cover has in store for their next gen, hopefully it's something as good or better otherwise they risk more of the same issues that Magni and Vesper are facing.

>>36483573

>>36473421
what kind of mental gymnastic is this. talking about it on your rm is equal to backstabbing. looks like the clout got over his head.

>>36470504
There are several hololive talents that hate their model or default/main outfit and had to put up with it for years. That is true for several JP talents and for Ina and Kronii in holoEN. There was a reason that Gura threw cardboard Kronii into the garbage during her 3D sololive.

Magni knows that some of the JP holostars had to fight for over 3 years to get their model changed. I can't blame the guy for putting his foot down and telling Cover that he wants a redesign.

How fucking pathethic do you have to be, to be a women in 2022 and instead of being out there building a life you are here simping for some faggot male vtuber. At least men have an excuse but as a women that is really insane.

>>36473978
what do you mean he "got it for free"? it's not his model, you dipshit. they get to use them while they're employed by cover. might be different for suisei, but generally speaking.

>>36485267
>At least men have an excuse
please tell me because i'd love to hear the reason why men doing the same thing as women is excusable

flare used alternate costumes for years in protest of her base model and openly hated on it. when she finally got that fucking redesign flare told her creator straight to his face that he fucked up and that he needed to make her cuter for her redesign to which he said was stressful and difficult

compared to what magni did i'd find that much more egregious

>>36482815
you first, rrat

>>36486566
Men cant just build a life, even finding a women is 10 times harder for a men. A women can find a bunch of possible suitors in a week. For a men to do the same it could take years.

>>36486822
>Men cant just build a life, even finding a women is 10 times harder for a men.
this is the most pathetic thing i've ever read on this site, holy fucking shit

>>36486566
>>36486859
Post vagina or armpits

>>36482556
not a single bit of my post mentions numbers in any shape, /#/nigger. have your (you) and go back to your containment.

>>36486859
Hes not wrong, stuff is way easier as a women. The fact that you are here defending so homosexual anime guy is even sadder.

>>36487064
who said i was defending them or that i was even a woman. i'm saying you're pathetic because you are. to revolve your entire life around having sex or finding a girlfriend is incredibly lame. find a hobby. do a sport. read a book. do literally anything but obsess over pussy.

>>36487112
First of all i have fucked so many women i lost count, so i can get pussy. Second, i have hobbies, i lift weights and i hike. Third, keep coping about your anime faggot.

>>36487112
>Wasting your time on anything but procreation and securing the future of your bloodline
NGMI

>>36487436
>First of all i have fucked so many women i lost count
enjoy your syphilis whore

>>36487636
Enjoy being fujo as you age more. Your faggot anime boyfriend doesnt even know you exist. Send a red superchat, maybe he will say your name so you can feel something. Meanwhile i will be balls deep in some slutty girls asshole.

>>36487636
Condoms are a thing you know.

>>36486859
Stupid woman

>>36470195
neat

>>36470195
Get bent

>>36472546
Flare was the worse and it was prt of the reason she wouldn’t sign the congrats on getting married for lackpapa

>>36473068
And she was shittalking it on her roommates account. Just like maggy. Probably was the one that gave him the idea too.

>>36472964
He does. He gushed over the character reference and overall design. The issue was how the reference was translated into the model.
And it’s probably more annoying to him since he’s a bit of an artist himself

>>36474250
No Roberu is a fickle bit. He’s either all gung-ho for stars stuff or ignoring them.

>>36475839
Don’t go gambling. You’re shit at betting.

>>36483573
What’s hilarious is that said blue bnuuy actually helped designed her model.

>>36472309
Altare has this expression - which is how you know he's the best.

>>36470195
After that raft final, Magni’s constant shitting on management makes a little more sense if he has to deal with femcels all day.

>>36474366
Yes, like that.
What, you think he should behave like us?

>>36470195
I've become convinced that 'male vtuber' is always code for 'pedo groomer'.

>>36498541
Preach

>>36487772
oh noooooooo you've wounded me whatever will i do with my free tuition at a top japanese university and living my best life as a translator and going to all the hololive and stars concerts i want oh nooooooooooo

you overcompensate too much my friend

>>36489773
how eloquent

>>36498541
we have gone full circle back to the vox anti campaigns

>>36494403
was she actually? that's hilarious.

>>36482619
Room mate shat on the terrible "work uniform" on twitter.

>>36499280
IRyS has always secretly menhera'd a bit on her rm

>>36472733
It's been three months

>>36499524
That's 21 months in dog years bro.

>>36480694
What position could a HoloStar threaten them with? He goes, a hundred other streamers will line up to audition for his spot.

>>36499340
To him it's probably ugly. His waifu is Astolfo. People shat on it pre-debut too.

>>36499183
holy seethe kek

>>36499280
Unless you’re a member of her patreon and get DM’d a link to her private stream you’d never know of it. Magni just did it publicly.

>>36499524
It was three months of seeing people in chat make fun of his model that he knows is bad. He likely was insulted when Cover told him that a redesign could take years when he knows people that could have already finished a redesigned model.

>>36504666
>t. homobeggar cope

>>36504666
everyone he knows would make his character black with tumblr nose

>>36470391
>>36470555
According to the board itself, it is all men. You're simply supposed to accuse anyone who disagrees of being a tranny. In fact, no matter what side of an argument you're on, you should both accuse each other.
>>36471920
I don't get it. What specifically makes his model worse than all the other three? Most of them aren't that great.

>>36508867
Don't try to reason with the discordtroons, they want to deflect from him menhera outburst. His model's fine and they know it, it's pure cope.

>>36508867
Vesper's is worse but this isn't a competition, both of them in particular are bad. They're proportionally fucked and rigged terribly though not for lack of trying. I mean goddamn, even Magni's papa was disappointed in the work they did. They put a lot of thought into the design but the actual model didn't turn out very good, likely due to their relative inexperience in making a vtuber model

>>36509293
> I mean goddamn, even Magni's papa was disappointed in the work they did
I'm sure the homobeggar defence force will bring out a source for this cope any minute now...

>>36470293
RM twitter implied he doesnt like how his model looks. Retards here took thag as he hating the whole of his character, but it probably means he just dislikes how wonky is Live 2D is (Witch was memed to oblivion when Tempus was announced)

Apparently vesper's RM rewtweeted it. And this lead schizos to speculate Noir dislikes his Live 2D as well (have tou seen that fucking chin)

The real takeaway here is that Tempus models look Ass, no exceptions. Ppl who want Brotubers don't mind bishounen designs so there was no need to make them so unconventional.

>>36512010
>Witch
>rewtweeted
Oh look, it's another homobeggar cope post, ESL to boot. Cover me surprised

>>36509521
Either a lot or all of the HoloTempus artist had never made a vtuber model before and some designs work way better for models than others. At least one of them tweeted that making the model was very difficult. The artstyle for Magni's artist is probably the least well suited for vtuber models. That is the one thing Nijisanji does much better than Hololive. They use art styles that work for models instead of going for branding.

Though Vesper's artist is actually really good at drawing sexy guys so I am not sure how they ended up with Doritoman.

>>36512010
>Ppl who want Brotubers don't mind bishounen designs
Pretty sure that's one of the main filters for the brotuber crowd. But that train is long gone for Tempus at this point, except maybe for Vesper.

>>36512329
Again, I'm sure you'll bring a source any day now...

>>36512329
>The artstyle for Magni's artist is probably the least well suited for vtuber models
Nah, Redjuice takes the cake by a large margin on this one. I'm actually curious to see if and how they will manage to not make IRyS redesign look like another abortion.

>>36471164
Men always beat women in everything anon. Dont forget that.

>>36512844
Tell that to the homos' sub/ccv. KEK.

>>36470195
Literally nothing you've mentioned is relevant to real people that actually watch them

>>36512379
>But that train is long gone for Tempus at this point, except maybe for Vesper.
Funny part is that it's not really the case. Regis despite his super soft voice seems to be the most normal in terms of just watching for games.

>>36470195
>is it safe to watch EN chuubas
never has been

>>36499340
To be fair. It is though.

>>36512010
Seriously though mag's face was such a fucking joke at launch holy shit. He really needs a better one. The doc-ock arms are cool though.

>>36499524
Holy shit why does it feel like it's been years of content. wtf
Time is feeling slower and slower the more vt shit I watch.

>>36472964
The issue is the face, the other stuff is cool.

>numbers plummet after shitting on the existing fanbase and culture and bringing in twitch fuckwits
>The models are to blame
Fucking cope, you bastards were blessed with the opportunity of a lifetime and blew it to own the chudcels

>>36520306
Pre-isekai he was a twitchtuber though.

>>36513431
OHNONONONONO DON'T LOOK

did people forget how much everyone was clowning on ALL the tempus designs when they were first revealed?
it was literally so bad that some people thought that they were going to fail out the gate, and it was sheer fucking luck that all of them had 10/10 personalities and were overfitting their models, except for Magni who still looks like a retarded frog
here's vespers bro by the way, not the best but its totally inoffensive and is good enough to assume it was EN stars management who fucked up the models with their directions

>>36523372
I can't believe magni had the highest subscriber count pre-isekai and got the most scuffed face.

>>36471920
Even if it is, you take the debuff on the chin. Being a whiny bitch about something given to you is extremely damaging for your professional image with coworkers and fans who know.
Look at what Irys did. Universally disliked model that didn't match the rest of Hololive. Disregarded and dropped on debut because of it. She just plugged ahead because video games and singing are fun lol. Her perseverance put her in the Top 5, if not Top 3 of HoloEN
And I don't think she's ever acknowledged the poor model.

>>36474016
This is a decent point. I wonder if StarsEN perception is that their management just sits on their hands because that's what Hololive's does.

>>36483493
Can anyone link the source of his bitching?

>>36487772
You’re on 4chan and male. You don’t have a girlfriend lmao.

>>36525453
She's getting a new design though. In fact, the reason she hasn't gotten any outfits is because she bitched to management about wanting a different design. And before you try to accuse me of shitting on IRyS, I'm not. I like her even if she's not my favorite. Also, this is all about RM tweets, apparently. IRyS bitched directly to management.

>>36486637
I still can't stop seeing flare's redesign as a pregnancy dress...

>>36472964
The design is cool and it would've been good if only cover wasn't so retarded and hired the right people. This goes for other designs like irys too, the nephilm stuff seems cool but the execution was absolute shit

Can one of you discord faggots deepL Magnis tweet into Japanese and then post it under holostars jp hashtags, so all of his senpai can see it. Thanks. Japanese antis will take it from there

>>36530031
NYPA faggot

>>36530031
Send me some giftcards first