/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It’s true, just look at the numbers of the collab going on right now.

reminder that 'homobeggars' are actually a myth

Make your own Hololive retard.
Oh yeah You're just poor Seanig who live in mudhut

>>36447301
Absolute correct
It's like SJW Disney

>>36447459
>outright lie
Who the hell do you think are going to believe it

The worst mistake they made is hiring woke niggers as staffs

>>36447301
Here's my pity (You) nigger.
Enjoy the 0,00000001ug worth of dopamine you'll get with it.

>>36447301
This is why capitalism is good, the idiots that fall for this moral high roading by outsiders fail to turn a profit and die out.

This is why the nijisanji method is better for EN, just release a ton of people and have mixed genders from the start. Otherwise you'll just have to deal with the consequences down the road.

>>36447301
Sad how true this is.
But what can you do?

>>36447301
It's morally wrong to forbid the girls to collab with men if they want to. You don't need to be a hololive fan or even watch the girls to recognize this truth or to disseminate this message.

>>36447459
You should work for JIDF if you aren't already
>>33774375

>>36448578
>It's morally wrong
It's morally wrong to eat meat
Do you?

>>36448578
Forbid? I wasn't aware I had such power.
Anyway, I have something called preference. I don't like homo collabs. Incomprehensible, I know.

>>36447301
True

>>36448578
It's also moraly wrong to ask something who will negatively impact someone career and life while sitting on a chair accumulating fat, but here you are. On the scumbag level you are several dozen of level ahed of other so don't try to be moralistic.

>>36447521
There is nothing that SJW hate more than women being Gold Star Lesbians.

>>36448607
>that reddit expose
This is where I act surprised that homobeggars are exclusively redditors raiding 4chan right?

>>36447634
2 years ago I was hoping Hololive would be immune to the woke cancer. It wasn't. The metastases are spreading incredibly fast.

>>36449649
Stop watching HoloEN and EN vtubers in general

>>36449649
Just don't watch EN, The JPs are as great as ever

>>36447634
Ironically, EN would do better if it were managed by Kiara.

>>36449649
What's so woke about girls NOT acting like man-hating dykes?

>>36447301

>>36448578
>Join company with a certain culture
>Throw a fit when the thing you want conflicts with the company you knowingly joined
>"It's morally wrong to stop them"

>>36449920
Not interacting with men isn't a part of Idol Culture. Idols interact with men A LOT. They play in tv shows, do interviews, variety shows, meet and greets and so on.

>>36450197
Yes, but those are special events like Holo Expo, so probably once a month or even a year
Not weekly/daily like Tempus collabs
So, shut that mouth right now

>>36450408
>Yes, but those are special events like Holo Expo
I don't mean vtubers. Proper, ACTUAL japanese Idols in actual Idol Companies interact with men and no one cares nor ever cared. They star in tv shows and movies, even in romantic context. It was always a thing.

>>36449836
It's woke to hate girls-only kayfabe. The girls don't need to hate males, they only need to play their roles. When we truly talk about VTubers only, then it doesn't matter what they do in their personal lives. The show is what matters.

>>36447459
>>36448578
>>36450197
Why are you posting in this thread instead of watching the collab you begged for?

>>36447301
Yes yes!
All the whores need to graduate!

>>36449694
>>36449794
There is actually one genuine CGDCT channel in English.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6m64Oc1vvb_hpyOLRtxaYg

>>36450197
Go watch Tamaki, she already explained this bullshit, it's not the same to be a guest on TV shows and interviews with men. In fact all holos do it, including some like Noel, Marine or Pekora who don't interect with the homos.
Being a guest on profesional show for the sake of promotion is not the same as casually collaboration on your channel

>>36450556
Say it again

>>36450805
>looks a little like K-On Yui and Ui
>does CGDCT
Checks out

>hololive didn't have cross gender collabs before this
Thanks for outing yourself as never watching hololive fag op

>>36450612
in a thread full of copeposts this one takes the cake

>>36450923
And everyone with a good business sense and respect for their fans ditched male collabs, like Subaru

>>36450899
Truly a gem.

>>36449920
Why do you keep posting the SC pic everywhere when Vox of all people is number one? Why did you leave him out anon? Trying to hide something?

>>36450841
What about tv shows and movies? Those are arguably the biggest avenues for career growth for an Idol. And good luck avoiding interacting with men in those.
The sad truth is that "no men ever" bullshit is something that was never a part of J-idol scene and is a creation of mentaly ill fags from twitch who want an e-girlfriend.

>>36451072
Is Vox Hololive? Because that post is very specifically about Hololive and Holostars

>>36451072
Is Vox a HoloEN girl who did a Tempus collab? If not, then he’s irrelevant to the discussion no matter how much he makes.

>>36450805
Have you saved them yet anon?

>>36451116
>What about tv shows and movies? Those are arguably the biggest avenues for career growth for an Idol. And good luck avoiding interacting with men in those.
Again, that's not an issue, strictly profesional interactions have never been an issue for those in Hololive who don't do male collabs. Rushia, Miko, Marine, Noel and many many more have all been on TV with males hosts, sometimes in the same room, and no one has had any issue with it. Because those are strictly profesional interactions. "no men ever" was NEVER a Hololive policy, or something ANY girl ruled themselves by. It was NO MALE COLLABS WITH VTUBERS, that's very different
No one is stalling their career by not collabing with men, because surprise, no one actually fully avoids men 100% (besides Kanata, she is the only no males ever, except that one time she was "tricked") they simply don't collab with the Holostars because that brings them 0 gain.

>>36450805
>Literally graduating

>>36447301
the sad part is that its pretty much true. too bad this thread will say "WELL UR A RETARD" if you don't like homostar collabs.

seriously I have never seen some members tank this badly after the introduction to the males like kronii. she has fallen off massively.

>>36451116
>Being this mentally deficient

>>36451375
This

>Reddit tier meme
>People pretending that they actually care about vtubers they don't watch
>The classic 'us 4channers sure are incels right?' bait
>People not calling OP a faggot
Yeah, there's definitely a raid going on. Someone must have stocked up on Google play cards.

>>36447301
>The painful truth is vt shitposters is leaving vt because of homobeggars.
Isn't it a good things?

>>36451116

>>36448578
Ethically they can, of course, but just because it's not inmmoral for you to do something; it doesn't mean you have to. I would see respecting the audience who pays for them and to which they establish a relationship before more ethically correct in fact.

>>36451375
>strictly profesional interactions have never been an issue
What is a stream? It's those chicks main job. When they play minecraft or check superchats they might as well punching a card in a factory. By definition all their stream collabs are in a professional setting.

>>36451719
>it's ok to be a waifufag
Have you considered the rope, faggot?

>>36451761
And with the exception of Bae, the EN girls are very unprofessional in how they handle it.

>>36451761
They don't consider it that way, a stream is a space between the viewer and the streamer. Any extra parties are being invited to that space

>>36451761
the mentally ill among us feel like they're getting cucked whenever it happens and will never be able to react normally to them. it's an entirely self-inflicted problem

>>36451947
Oh yes, I bet JP girls wouldn't have any problems if they were actual Idols. Real Idols eat Mike Tyson's ass all the time!

>>36451761
Work is usually supposed to be benefificial, I don't think most people work a job to activelly lose money, and in this case collabing with Holostars is an active lose for them
If you think streaming is their main job (which most JP girls don't consider it that way, and it has been explained serval times, that for a Hololive talent, streaming IS NOT their main job) then why collab with a Holostar when it's a negative, they're actívela loosing

>>36452108
They're actual idols.

>>36452121
>for a Hololive talent, streaming IS NOT their main job
It's how they build a fanbase. Do you think many people here got into vtubers by stumbling upon their music?

>>36449649
Come home white man

>>36452108
>deflection
Good to see you ran out of arguments.

>>36452227
>They're actual idols.
None of them would make it as idols. They don't have what ot takes. That's why they are vtubers.

>>36452320
They already made it as Idols anon

>>36452289
My argument is that you shouldn't use your misunderstanding of Idol Culture as a cover for your unability to cope with not getting bitches.

>>36452245
>It's how they build a fanbase.
Still not their main job

>>36447301
nice meme loser

>>36447634
A purge in the EN management is the first step to the salvation.

>>36452437
I don't care about idol culture. I want CGDCT and males ruin that

>>36452441
Without fanbase there is no job. And streaming is something they spend the most time on.

>>36452529
Take the HoloJP pill.

>>36452529
You want a pretend girlfriend becouse you are made of weak sperm. Consider commiting 41%

>>36451219
Luxiem and its consequences destroyed everything good NijiEN had built anyway. Pointing out how much money Vox makes would still be irrelevant because he's making it over a pile of shit and ashes that once used to be some of the best vtubing content on the internet.

>>36452624
What's the easier JP holo to understand if you're only N4?

>>36447301
only true in EN. As a JP chad, we eatin good

>>36450805
I regret not picking them up sooner...

>>36449156
I never asked for any collabs. It's the girls' choice. I did called the anti-collab "fans" misogynistic assholes.

>>36447301
The holobeggar copes knowing they have no power to change the tide.

>>36452529
then watch JP

>>36452930
>misogynistic
Shouldn't it be misandrist? It's the men they hate.

>>36451730
NO. Avoiding male collabs out of "respect" for the audience is absurd, male collabs don't direspect them on any way.

The only VALID reason to avoid male collabs is if teh vtuber feels unsafe around men due to past trauma.

>>36453038
What if the audience feels unsafe around men due to past trauma? I can assume most of them were bullied by bullyjerks at school.

>>36449649
>le woke boogeyman
is called freedom of expression

>>36453311
No. Woke is when you don't hate men. The more you not hate men the woker it gets.

>>36453209
they need to improve themselves then

>>36453566
But they don't have any friends, much less opposite sex ones!

>>36450609
This, retarded people here and normalfag on twitter doesn't know fans don't give a shit if they have boyfriend or married, nobody care about the VA having a normal life. If this is true unicorn and cgdct already left the industry ages ago.

The vtuber just need to play the character just like any entertainment, to entertain your specific audiances you apply your job too.

>>36453566
Woketard woke up.

>>36453899
That's correct.

>>36453903
>woke stands for wealthy relations between sexes now
Does it also stand for ethnonationalism and fagbashing?

>>36450556
You know what was also always a thing for idols?
Love bans. Suing idols who violate love bans. Companies hiring private investigators to find out if their idols are hiding a relationship. Outing and firing idols in relationships as a company to improve the standing of the company in the eyes of the fans.
That's idol culture. Now go watch your "alt idols" that everybody hates and nobody watches.

>>36454123
>woketard keeps implying that whores are based
>woketard hates romantic love between a woman and thousands of men, the cornerstone of western civilization according to the bible itself

>>36452437
I’m not the one talking about idol culture here, that’s pretty much a buzzword in the west for “whatever idol-adjacent thing Twitter hates.” You’re applying what idols do, then refusing to accept when people point out how what the EN girls are doing goes against it.

>>36452797
>N4
Keep practicing anon. Though I've heard Okayu speaks slower than most so she'd probably be the best fir for you.

>>36454123
>wealthy relations between sexes now
>wealthy
Assuming you meant "healthy" esl-kun, can you look at the head runners of the homo collab spam and claim any of them are "healthy", mentally or physically?

>>36452797
Miko and Luna,they dont speak JP sometime

We already won.
Go enjoy some other hobby.

>>36453038
>male collabs don't direspect them on any way.
deliberately making shit content that no one wants to watch is entitlement
At least when nyan and aethel stream shippers masturbate to it

>>36451482
Based and watamelon pilled

>>36456179
The battle has yet to begin
as long as reverting to facecamming exists normies will always have a way out
The crash is coming, the fad is dying.
A time of reckoning will wipe the weak.
When Hololive falls, Shondo will rise.
The unicorns are already fleeing to Kawaii in droves. A new kingdom will emerge and the fourth era of vtubers will begin, the western era.

>>36456548
Based

>>36447664
Nijisanji EN is just one drama after another now though. And not meme drama like "amelia got pissed and closed the stream" but twitter people calling for enna to graduate because of being racist against a wigger.

>>36448578
Fuck off connor, you insufferable faggot.
https://streamable.com/zx0e7k

>>36451855
Have you?

>>36452521
>>36449649
Omegatroon is cancer.
https://streamable.com/lpvbje

>>36447459
Fresh out the oven

>>36448578
It's morally wrong to give money to streamers anon

>>36449920
yet the one in red is the one that earns the most

>>36451000
And yet Fubuki still did male collabs and has one of the best reputations in the corpo.
>inb4 it's different because it's jpstars

>>36461119
>Kronii
>Mori
>Ame

>>36462884
Fubuki - Avg. Viewers 8,868
Subaru - Avg. Viewers 20,385

>>36452121
what is their main job if they are on hololive then?

>>36463089
>instantly thinks of noombers when i didn't bring them up in the slightest
/#/fags don't have the reading comprehension skills to understand two sentences

>>36462625
>trident
Pathetic. I hope he drops her.

>>36462625
Jesus

>>36453401
>The more you not hate men the woker it gets.
But I don't want my chuubas to hate me...

>>36448578
Its morally wrong to be a faggot too but imma guess you've had more cocks up your ass than Mori has had in her mouth

>>36452797
Your favorite, don't make my mistake of watching X or Y just because it is easier to understand, choose someone that entertains you enough to watch 2 hours of it every day, if you manage to do that, in 1 year your overall comprehension of listen Japanese will skyrocket.

>>36452883
It's surely sad to see them go, nevertheless, they have proven that making content of this quality has been achievable.

>>36452752
>It doesn't count!
kek

>>36462490
Omega doesn't exist, take meds

>>36463337
But HE is right. THe numbers and views of holos who don't collab with males are higher than those who have.
Pekora, Miko, Subaru, Noel, Marine, all check the validation.
Same shit with Gura, Mummers, Fauna and IRyS.

>>36448578
anon, idols only have 15 year life expectancy at most

>>36451482
Melon you are wise beyond your years

>>36470629
That won't matter soon. In 10-15 years, all human VTubers will be replaced by AI VTubers.

>>36462625
Fucking hell

>>36470629
It's a good thing I don't care about what they look like IRL.

>>36463089
>Subaru stop collabing with males
>Career skyrocket

>>36470227
That post-Council debut he made won't go away that easily

>>36470227
It doesn't matter whether the manager who used Omega's profile was fired or not. The character still exists and it will exist until it's officially graduated. The bullshit he brought up will remain attributed to him.

>>36447488
t.projecting pignoys

>>36471459
>>36471459
Exactly. Marine, Pekora, Miko, and Subaru all used to collab with males but stopped when the company went the more idol direction and it was financially very smart. It made Hololive girls more special than other agencies. Nijisanji girls are afterthoughts compared to the males because the industry has niches to fill and Hololive fills the niche of guys that want to watch cute anime girls with no other men involved. Nijisanji is the casual normie male's entertainment and the female otaku's guilty pleasure. NijiEN's fanbase is majority female for the girls and guys.

>>36463089
to be fair, Fubuki's CCV is fucked because of her constant FFIV streams

>>36450841
>>36451116
>>36451375
>It's okay for your oshi to collab with males who are much more famous than her
Guess what goes on behind the scenes, cuck.

>>36450805
yosh you did it! you saved their smiles anon!

>>36470596
>NOOMBERS NOOMBERS NOOMBERS
seek help, retard

>>36471702
When I started watching Vtubers 3 years ago, I found Niji and Holo. I went for Holo, because they were all girls. I never looked at the Niji again.

>>36472223
yeah that's why mans is trying to inflate MV numbers using kpop stan strats
it's also why they're so deseperate to shill tempiss

>>36471702
Nijien are trash by comparison desu, they are consider twitch lite at this point, no wonder nijijp hardly talk to them unless during big collab.

I rather watch nijijp who understand what vtuber is in sense of bringing entertainment rather than nijien who cater the lowest denominator through drama and coom content.

There hardly different between them and twitch when they start removing the vtuber and becoming more normalfag with cam spam meta, i wouldn't be suprise if they casually doxx themselves someday.

>>36471437
you do know age also changes their voice right?

What's the state of Hololive? JP? EN? Events? I haven't watched in 2-3 months since the homo drama

>>36447301
yea pretty much

you all are a bunch of insecure cunts, you know that?

>>36472904
Seethe

>>36472904
yes anon, we are all aware on how secure your cunt is.

>>36472904
cope

>>36447301
EN3 will change everything, right?

>>36448578
>Moral
Kys libfacistard

>>36462625
>one guy
wwwww

>>36462979
People screaming about male collabs isn't the same as people on twitter screaming about racism.

>>36479589
Who cares about the buzz of the mosquitoes? They will either be ignored or slapped.

>>36472009
>Guess what goes on behind the scenes, cuck.
Why should I care? She isn't my girlfriend. Nor is your oshi yours. If you died she wouldn't even know about it. If she did she wouldn't care.

>>36450923
>but X hololive did 4 collabs with males in the span of a year, checkm8!

>>36462625

>>36452797
Not a Holo, but I highly recommend Pikamee. She's JP but self-translates almost every sentence in pretty decent (and cute) English. If you watch her, don't make the mistake of "tuning out" the JP, especially if you're EFL, instead do your best to understand her and use her self-translation seconds later to double check. Oh, I should have mentioned she's super cute and an incurable lonely NEET. Perfect virtual girlfriend material.

>>36481695
based

>>36472671
It won't be as bad because there's less smoke and smog everywhere. They won't start to sound old for another 40 years.

>>36448578
dude lets get real. unicorns can do jack shit to these girls, nobody have the power to forbid the homo collab. if the girls think that a comment from a malding 35yo unicorn whining about shitty low effort collab is a threat, thats on them. just remember that both unicorns and beggars are mentally questionable but unicorns actually willing to watch and pay, dont expect the number to stay the same.

>>36486453
You're right except I don't think there's anything mentally questionable about it. It all follows logically.

>>36479589
Yes you can only fit one picture where it says "choose file" you're so smart

>>36486453
Money talks. When the memberships decline and the CCV reclines they feel it.

>>36472904

>>36453009
>then watch JP
>he says as he posts a JP holo who interacts with m*les

>>36470227
Cope faggot

>>36447301
>85753265_p02.png
Explain.

>>36491838
JP vtubers know how to collab with males without constantly collabing with males. For the vast majority of people, that’s good enough. This is what we mean when we say that “unicorns are a minority”—not that everyone likes collabs with males, but that most people tolerate them. Japanese vtubers are more likely to get that not complaining about something that’s kind of annoying != liking it and wanting more. Western vtubers (AND fans) are retarded and think it’s all black and white (that you either have to be a schizo calling a stranger a whore or you have to be a twitterbrained midwit who considers homocollabs to be the ultimate moral good)

>>36449649
It was obvious when the first kenzocuck discord appeared. It was just a matter of time. SEA need a separate internet.

>>36453311
>the cancel culture is the freedom of expression
either bait or tranny

>>36492692
>he thinks a 2D character is real
oh nyo

the real truth

>>36494585
kek. I would still rather have unicorns because at least they're actual fans of the thing. Homobeggars don't care about either person in the collabs and just want to make an imaginary person in their head angry.

>>36494125
kys omegatroon, YWNBAW

>>36494125
>newfag
omagetroon is loserbait
>>36462490

>>36447301
pain peko
and it should be homobeggars/nijinigs

>>36494965
unicorns are only "fans" in the most superficial sense, they're not interested in the actual content or personality of the vtuber other than a pure waifu making cute noises, probably couldn't even tell you a single thing that happened in a stream as soon as it cuts to black, and they'll sperg out on a dime for things they imagine are happening without any evidence

>>36498298
Delusional troon. They love the [thing] so they shit on subversive normalfags who need to fuck out of the [thing].

>>36498298
>t-they're not parasocial enough!!!
kek femcels are something else

>>36447301
yeah, homobeggars aren't real, they're all trolls wanting to make unicorns seethe

>>36447301
and?

>>36496883
Not the best move from Cover to hire someone who baits losers.

>>36447459
lol, kys nigger

>>36447301
The problem is that half or more of holoEN girls are ok with collabing with the EN guys and they hate the fans that disagree with them so that pic doesn't actually work for that argument since the talents themselves are part of "outsider" behavior.

>>36503065
Those are the talents that weren't interested in Hololive before they became part of Hololive. It was a mistake to hire such people.

>>36447301
So why do what the image say and leave? Corporations like Kawaii literally have unicorn as their main selling point.

>>36503065
only gura and kiara who embrace idol culture and join holo because they wanted to be an idol, other myth is just there because easy money and side gig

>>36507924
>kiara
>Embracing idol culture
She's coping about holos being idols due to her experience as idol sucking balls to the point she self-sabotages

>>36448578
connorchama...

>>36448578
nobody's forbidding anything

but if you expect lonely men who have the disposable income to waste on members and supas and oppai mousepads and dakis to just ignore it when there's a sea of oshis out there, you'll be in for a surprise

>>36492692
>"Your wish has been granted?"
People wanted more males before females?

me

>>36507913
According to the numbers the leaving has begun and will continue.

>>36447301
It is. The homobeggars that infest this board are literal tourists. Actual holostars enjoyers couldn't give two shits about these collabs and some are even against them too.

>>36494585
at least unicorn was at the line wanting the thing, until homobeggars drive them all away

>>36448578
It's morally wrong for girls to want to collab with men.

>>36447301
Nothing will change and the cycle will continue

>>36447301
There are no homobeggars, the girls are doing this because they want to interact with the guys.

>>36526941
>There are no homobeggars

>>36527356
Correct!