/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

So unicorns want vtubing to die? Seems counter-productive.

I hope you're happy Kronii

Time to watch fleshtubers again.

>>36442688
I would rather see the whole medium burn to the ground than see my oshi interact with m*les

Western Vtubers were a mistake

right around tempuss debut

I can't believe HoloEN single handedly killed the vtubing industry

>>36442651
Tempus really was the final nail in the coffin. I hope Cover goes bankrupt for their retardation.

>>36442688
Every hobby normies infect ends up dead.

>>36442651
Good, it's finally time for the tourists to fuck off

/qa/ lost

>>36442741
time to go back to a daily life of no vtubers like good old times

>>36442800
It's not just tempiss.
VShojo seems to have internal issues going from silvervale's posts.
Multiple indies are running off with the money.
Small corpos like Aethera are being revealed to be filled with human scum who take advantage of their audience.
People are tired of being lectured by zoomer trash playing flavor of the month who hides behind vtube studio because they're too ugly to act or show their face.

The magic isn't just gone, it was taken, smashed to pieces, and pissed on by outsiders.
Vtubing will die and it will take YEARS to recover, if it ever does. Nobody wants vapid, cliquey e-whores who aren't even pretty enough to show their camera.
>>36442911
time to return to anime, friend. it may not be paradise, but it is better than the hell that vtubing has become.

>>36442651
Damn, everyone's jumping ship because Hololive and Nijisanji are only debuting a ton of males now.
Such a shitty way to treat supporters who wanted more cute girls and fancy performances.

>>36442651
>western vtubing
>dying
>JP vtubing
>inclining
just as god intended

>>36442651
>tempiss killed holoen
>vshojo suicidal
>luxiem reclining
>small corpos dying
>indies fighting constantly

>>36443055
AItubers are the future. No 3dpd whores behind avatars.

>>36442651
Anything that EN touch is just to become shit like always and anything

>>36442688
Bring back pre-2020 vtubing

>>36443142
nijisanji was only relevant cause of males, their top vtuber is male (kuzuha)

>>36442688
I hope it crashes so all the normies like you leave the hobby forever

>>36442721
Yeah, as if. If you think you've got it bad here, wait until you see how awful THAT scene has become.

>>36443157
you got it just right brother.

>>36443183
Won't they need to learn from 3DPD though? What if an AItuber mentions it's boyfriend out of nowhere

>>36443337
If it takes role of original character there won't be a problem. AI actually understands already why men flee from whores.

>>36442911
I don't know how. My pre-vtuber interests and hobbies were shelved. I haven't watched a single anime since late 2020. Not even one episode. I told myself that I would change that and watch Chainsaw Man but here I am, watching streams whenever I have free time.

Retards dont bother to fact check baka

>>36442800
it was tempus that did it.

>>36443583
Of course we knew, we just wanted to have fun shitposting.

unicorns and idolshits getting purged is the best thing to ever happen. The vtuber world is healing. Hopefully the voice actors and doujin artists that started vtubing channels come back. The normie pandering vtubers from companies like niji and indies are chugging along just fine

>>36443481
This season is the first time I've watched anime in years

>>36442688
When the normalfags leave, vtubers will be on their knees begging us to come back

>>36443583
Check the graph in a few months and it'll become real.
downward tren

>>36442688
no we want you to fuck off, I'm not funding your entertainment faggot, go back to twitter

>>36442688
The normalfags will fuck off and leave the people who genuinely love this medium for what it should be, many vtubers will disappear and many will lose their oshi's but in the end the medium will be left in a better state than it is now.

>>36443583
>line go down
What did anon mean by this?

>>36443481
>>36442911
This anime season has Bocchi the rock, Akiba Maid Sensou and chainsaw man, it's kinda cool actually.

>>36443217
I don't blame NijiEN for it since it was successful for them, but they still kind of abandoned the girls and now Hololive is doing the same even though the girls are wildly successful.

>>36442651
When they look up vtubers, they don't mean Hololive. They're just planning to become one. It's funny that you schizos like using a crumb of info then fabricating it as garbage to show that "Vtubing is dying".

>>36442741
Based.

>>36442688
Yes. Normalfags need to fuck off

>>36442741
CHAD

>>36443817
The hololive girls had a giant brand name behind them but they never had the support of a competent management team. Things haven't changed as much as you think for them; at least not their external factors. They just stagnated and got worse themselves and their streams reflect that. NijiEN girls did get giga shafted though.

>>36443869
It not dying but the growth basically stopped
Not a single council have 1 mil sub with the hololive brand

>>36442651
my engagement with this hobby is directly tied to newfags searching "vtuber" on google, this will spell terror for me

vtubers are still popular in japan
to the point where tons of super-talented artists and musicians use virtual avatars because they don't have the negative pre-conceptions we have in the west
a famous artist in the west would be embarrassed to use an anime avatar but in japan, they do it all the time and I'm talking about respected artists, they just have a different culture and I think, as technology advances, they're only going to get more popular and the west will follow their example

>>36442651
What country is this, anon? If it's America, you do see a drop, but not anything close to this.

>>36442688
It needs to shed the grifters and brainwashed masses.
There's so much money in the industry but it's all being pocketed, and they just insult the fans when they complain.

>>36442688
if only you normalfags actually supported vtubers as much as the unicorns did, now that more and more vtubers want the normalfag audience

>>36444048
Council got killed by Susan during their debut month, using them as an example is pretty silly

>>36442688
Unicorns are all mentally ill and on the spectrum, throwing self-destructive "if I can't have it no one can" fits is a part of who they are

>>36442800
>killed the vtubing industry
Only in the west. HoloJP is still inclining to the moon.

>>36444295
If they are that popular they can still hit 1 mil easily even with Susan debuff.

>>36444363
nevermind, OP is retarded, worldwide looks like this.

>>36444027
Things have changed because management is actually moving... but for the Holostars. And their plan is just to leech from the girls while hanging them out to dry.

>>36442893
/qa/ won THOUGH

>>36444413
StarsEN has different management that was hired shortly before debut. The job posting was public and it got posted here a bunch of times. From what I remember they were looking for japs that speak english, so I'm not surprised they ended up with a better management team than the garbage the girls have to deal with.

>>36444261
they do though? Niji is rolling bank with its vtubers that talk fashion, jap sports, jap pop culture, and music

>>36444386
The Susan debuff fucking hit them at the most critical juncture. They’re still growing faster than most of the rest of the company, it’s just that they got kneecapped at the starting line and have to cover lost ground.

>>36442651
Wow tempiss really did kill interest in hololive.

>>36444343
Refusing to pay for garbage content you didn't ask for isn't a self destructive fit and it's not even unicorn behavior. Vtubers are not entitled to the audience's donations.

You want to turn an existing brand into Twitch-light, okay, I can't stop you. But I sure as -fuck- won't pay for it. If the girls weren't OK with it to begin with hopefully seeing where the money is going will help stiffen their spines. If they are OK with it and totally want the Twitch OTV model, then they can do it on their own dime, not mine. Either way vtubers are not entitled to my or anybody else's money anymore than any other entertainer.

>>36444201
A 25 point drop after tempiss debuted is pretty huge desu.

>>36442688

>>36442651
EN3 will either save or kill the industry.

>>36442651
>>36442688

>>36442741
Personally I would just spite the weird tumblrtroons.

I text here but sont watch Vtubers
Too boring

>>36444570
All the managers are Japs that speak English, anon.

>>36445819
/biz/ here, that is also a dead cat bounce so expect things to crash even lower.

>>36446395
Why would you make the homobeggar look cool? Dinosaurs man is the epitome of based.

Unichads or unicucks?

>>36442688
>fuck nerds this is ar hobby now
>omg why aren't nerds funding this hobby do you want it to die
Parasites and invaders really have no self-awareness or shame, lel.

>>36446395
>towa
Also a whore
>irys
How the fuck she getting so much money from barely streaming.
>sakamata
How and why.

>>36446852
>sakamata
>How and why.
Didn;t she pick up some of Rushia's whales?

>>36448204
She’s been at the top since before that, but yes, the ones who didn’t just follow the roommate or are willing to divide their money between both. Apparently whatever EN gachis fell into the same category went to Mumei, but she discourages SCs in favor of merch. Chloe simply acts cute and asks people to give her money, and they do it.

>>36442800
Holo EN is no more. Only Niji 2.0

>>36442911
New rimworld dlc is pretty great. I've played it for weeks

>>36442688
I think OP's point is not so much that unicorns won but rather that they were right, since the decline in the graph roughly coincides with Tempus debut.

>>36443216
THIS. Throw away Schizos and Retards from ENshart

>>36443337
Yeah, me

>>36446395
Sapling cope is strong. Too strong.
>Kiara
oh it's bait

>>36450329
mori hate is ALWAYS bait

>>36442651
Must be glad you hide what retarded country you got those stats from probably was Zimbabwe.

>>36442651
What did they win exactly?

Reminder that you cunts are not the only audience in Hololive.

>>36443055
it will never be what it was in during the boom or before, that shit is dead and gone especialy in the west, it was a fun few years, now back to JP only

>>36450524
this is also bait

>>36451052
Stop whining, nobody cares about you pointless tempiss fans.

>>36451260
and nobody asked you fucking nigger

>>36450883
Been around since Nov 2017 or earlier, don't plan on leaving.

>>36451052
Sure, that's why girls who pander to gachis (not cuck ones) incline and those who go against them decline in ccv and in donations. The later can decline to graduation and I couldn't care less about them. Gachis are much more invested in chuuba and fuckers like you don't matter in the long run.

>>36442688
>vtubers want unicorns to leave
>unicorns leave
>stocks plummet
I hate unicorns, but there is a reason hololive was kicking the shit out of nijisanji despite them having english vtubers way before HL did. They strangled their golden goose to death

>>36442800
Hololive was the vtubing industry in the west.

>>36442911
>>36443055
>>36443481
You could try finding new vtubers, there are tons of small ones; more than you could ever watch, who are strict about no males and some groups are JP only.

>>36442741
BASED

>>36452778
>english vtubers
Nijisanji had Hana (who didn't want the spotlight) and some very badly managed Indians. Hololive got popular internationally due to a mix of Chinese clippers gaming the recommendation system and HoloEN debuting at the exact right time. EN unicorns came after all that.

>>36442741
And do what instead? You guys don't watch streams, let alone watch anime.

>>36442741
Based as fuck. As soon as we get these homobeggar tourists out the better.

>This thread is 100% sincere, made and populated by true vtuber loving unicorns who think incels are cool.
>Don't even consider that suspiciously after Nov 1st this board has suddenly being flooded by bait threads.
>No foolies totally legit.
>Us 4channers sure hate men because we're incels or something.

>>36442741
Fucking based.

>>36443055
Silver's just having her seasonal menhera breakdown due to not having dick for so long.

>>36453248
This board is flooded with bait threads every day of the year

>>36443337
Report bugs to the dev of course

>>36442688
Its not once normies like (you) finally fuck off we can rebuild back to something worth enjoying

>>36446731
Funny, because I'm quite sure everyone that came to know vtubers during the coof were the same parasites and invaders you're talking about.

>>36442688
I want them to die because it'd be funny lol

It happens naturally with time. Vtubers aren't a hot, trendy curiosity anymore like they were when most people were stuck at home with not much else to do. Most people are ready to move on to the next thing, whatever that may be.

>>36446632
>/biz/ here
Go flip some burgers you dumbass

>>36446731
if you started watching in mid 2020 or later YOU are the invader, retard

>>36452591
>number numbers numbers numbers
you're actually retarded.. you know that?

>>36457239
4chan knew about vtubers in 2014, it is all the normalfaggots who came later who will always be the parasites and invaders. Seethe and cope, normalboi.

>>36459535
>people from /jp/ are the invaders, because they just are!
The mental gymnastics of redditors are amazing.

>>36453056
>actually pretending EN success is based on EN holos
Fucking retardkun I still have never watched a single EN vtuber and I never fucking will
I was brought here because rushia told me to go home and raised by pikipikipiman like the majority of the actually decent eops

>>36460869
Normalfags like that anon shouldn't be allowed to have hobbies. If you can't muster the raw autistic passion of non-neurotypicals, then you should be religated to soul crushing wage slavery and only be allowed to consume the boring art/media that other neurotypicals make.

>>36452778
Actually some of their talents support that shit. Jesus how clueless can they be?

>>36442688
>all this unicorn seethe in the (You)s
fpbp

>>36442651
/thread
>>36442688
>>36442741
kys retarded simp faggots

>>36442651
Dire

>>36442911
Yes. Unironically, yes....and I don't see a major problem with it? Has anyone every posited a big problem with vtubers...AS WE KNOW THEM NOW...dying off?
Has anyone really proved that anything they'd be replaced with wouldn't just be a poor substitute?
Enjoy your oshis while they're here, anons.

>>36442688
The bigger the vtuber is, the less important superchats are for their income compared to corporate sponsorships. If vtubing does die, the sponsorships will dry up, and SCs will become a larger portion of the vtuber's income once again. The unicorns lost financial control over their oshis over time as the industry got bigger, so the industry shrinking will return this control to them.

>>36442688
Its the same as that Western DMC games, people would've rather the series had died instead of it that Ninja Theory game coming out.

>>36466186
This is only relevant to Hololive, but most unicorns /here/ are holobronies.

>>36442721
>watching drama filled tubers
eww
i'm even getting tired of videos from moistkritikal

>>36451052
May not be the only audience but we cunts bring the wallets

>>36467767
You should havr gotten tired of him years ago with his shitty humour being just saying butthole in a deadpan voice as he delivers the most tepid takes. If you're going to watch react content just watch Pikamee atleast she's cute.

>>36467857
>we bring the wallets
and so does everyone else, you can sit the fuck down now

>>36442651
>Tempus debut
>Vtubers die
Hahahahahah

>>36468609
>iluna debut
>Vtubers die
Hahahahahah

>>36442741

>>36452591
>The later
The later
>The later
The later
>The later
The later

>>36442741
holy based.

>>36461949
This is the funniest post in the thread. The rest of you should improve yourselves.

>>36442651
Who could've predicted this?

>>36450329
Oh yes. Please share with the class why you think Kiara doesn’t belong in the "pure" category.

>>36460535
Numbers directly indicate success. It's a fucking business. Why do you think people want to join hololive? Because it's biggest corpo in EN, because it's one of the biggest in JP. And what makes them big? Numbers. How much money talents get correlates directly to the their numbers. What they will eat for dinner depends on their numbers. Wake the fuck up. If they didn't care about numbers in any way, they wouldn't join hololive.

>>36466186
You’re forgetting about merch being a more important revenue source in general. Having said that, there’s probably a correlation between high SCs and high merch sales, except in cases where one is explicitly prioritized by the girl over the other, like with Mumei and Ina.

>>36442688
>>36442741
I want vtubing to die so all the gachikoi, goslings, and unicorns will fuck off and neck themselves and the small handful of vtubers that remain can go back to playing games and being funny like things used to be. Idol culture and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>36472706
What are you talking about?, retard

>>36472876
There are people that can't comprehend such simple statement?

Oh wait, I forgot I'm /here/

>>36443055
I'd like to be taken advantage of the way Vera did to her gachis...

Jeez isn't like they is a global crisis going around and the covid restriction were lifted off. People specially normies don't have time or the head right now to care about v-tubers, specially if you don't live in Japan. The solely fact people blame males, unicorns or whatever enemy they had in their schizo head means how much they ignored external factors overall.

>>36442651
Nature is healing

>>36442688
kill it to save it

>>36474327
all you did was exposing yourself as an EOP newfag that only watches hololive

>>36442651
Good, just like everything in the West, it was a passing fad. Asia regions are more loyal when it comes to chuubas.

>>36444646
they make bank off dudes making rape ASMR roleplay as of late

>>36444295
Susan killed like 200K subs but Council took a long time to find their ground, this Fauna manga project is pretty much the first time EN2 organized something, even big collabs were always started by Myth (not counting Council-only collabs I guess). Also Kronii being lazy or too menhera to stream killed some of the hype early on since she was the most popular member that could carry the others.

>>36477380
not that complex. western weebshit usually dies fast. like RWBY, OEL manga, weeby VNs etc

>>36442651
Why would anyone google what a Vtuber is if they already know what they are Anon

>>36489173
Not enough people know. We need one of them to become an IRL serial killer so that the media can focus on the Vtuber aspect. Then even normalfags will know and the searches will skyrocket.

>>36442651
When I first saw the writing on the wall I already made the move to indie/small corpo jp vtubers. The west is burning and I couldn't care less.