/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The absolute state of this board…

this is a really innocuous tweet to seethe over anon

>>36412027
>an e-whore who does literal blowjob asmrs on her patreon has opinions
she'd better stick to dick sucking.

I dont get it
You're also just a number OP.
You will only get talked about as a dono, message she might read or a number in most cases

>OY VEY, you are not making us enough money, no funding for you!
Wow, such "talent freedom", she was right to shittalk Hololive

>>36412055
>>36412071
t. Nihilistcuck

>>36412027
Today I'll remind them

talent FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM

>>36412027
White women when they receive any sort of criticism or bad vibes
>I'm outta here

>>36412167
That's silvervale not veybay

>>36412027
Vtuber discovers absurdist nihilism
>>36412262
Also this

>>36412186
No emotional support bitch, now start streaming

>>36412027
she'll be back once she sobers up and realizes it's either this or a real job

>>36412027
Oh no, she had a glimpse of the real world

>>36412027
all vtubers are menhera. Yes, ALL.

>>36412027
That sounds to me like she wanted something from vshojo and it was denied because her performance wasn't considered good enough? Or she got turned down for some sponsorship opportunity or collab or something like that.

>>36412609
She was doing egosa and found numberfaggotry

>>36412027
No sponsorship want her i guess.

when you hold yourself to a very high standard, it hurts more than you know to miss the mark. it's a trait of highly successful people

>>36412027
What happened to Vshojo not being a company?

I don’t really see why a vtuber of her status would want to share something like this with her fans. Seems like something better left for a conversation with people who actually know you imo

>>36412200
i have said since the beginning that vshojo is a complete con. it's a devilish cult in the way that it operates.

When you make a lot of money and have a good career but what you do is just senseless bullshit

>>36412167
Blindchama?

>Hate vshojo
>Constantly scour their twitters for stuff to post here
Why though?

>>36412746
desperate people use deception to advance in life. it was a lie from the start. they said whatever words they thought you wanted to hear. in this case, vshojo was just early enough in vtubing that they actually managed to gain a footing and a VC award. it's tragic to the art, really.

>>36412270
Silvervale shat on Hololive too recently, to the point that the article had to be edited to damage control

>>36412027
>subpar analytic
not sure what she expected from streaming job, nobel prize?

>>36412071
>this is a really innocuous tweet to seethe over anon
Anon, this is supposed to be a vtwitcher from the biggest company operating in the west and she is talking like a depressed 2view menhera.
If you don't see how pathetic it is to complain about analytics this way in public, in a tweet not even on stream with your fans as part of a larger topic of your activities, I don't know what to tell you.

I guess she means this
She had a huge high and now has a huge low
Ok

>>36412923
Hololive girls do it. Cope and seethe.

>>36412970
Not everyone can be a Bahroo and attract with viewbotting enough Humans to stick around.

>>36412923
I think she's more bitching about not having anywhere near equal oppertunity to others who have bigger numbers in her same company. Drpending on what exactly it is, it's fair to assume that a lower numbers person wouldn't big given as much merchandising or public facing exposure as a more well known name. On the other hand if they're talking about tech and back end support being different based on popularity, it's shit but also kinda to be expected.

>>36412186
>cons: nothing
this bitch is so stupid...

>>36412778
It's fun to shit on people you hate

>>36413002
Doko? You mean like Ollie?

She's easily the least successful Vwhorejo and has been reclining for a while and she knows it. Even Hime Hajime pulls more numbers in a single one-every-six-months stream than Silvervale does on a good day with a regular schedule.

>>36413411
Off the top of my head, Watame, Polka. Lamy, Towa, Nene, Botan, Kanata, Kiara

Vsj lives rent free in holodrones heads huh

>>36413558
There are 2 Vshojotubers who are less successful
Shes just sad that shes among them and cant push out even with the recent success

>>36413572
>Watame, Lamy, Towa, Botan, Kanata
Wait why these 5? Botan and Lamy especially seems weird here since Botan does solid viewership and Lamy makes absolute bank.

>>36413589
>Hololive Hololive Hololive
Umm, geez. Rent free much?

>>36413572
Can you actually link to specific instances instead of just naming names? Kiara I can understand but the others I need a little more evidence.

>>36413589
>Hololive not even mentioned in post
>First post to mention Hololive is someone shitting on Hololive
Roru Rumao

>>36413678
>Vshojo vshojo vshojo
Umm, geez. Rent free much?

>>36413803
Mad

>>36413002
Link?

>>36413662
All of gen 5 has talked about feeling inferior to HoloEN. All of gen 4 has talked about being left in the dust by Coco (except maybe Luna, can't remember her specifically). If you want to know more google it or ask /hlg/.

>>36412103
Sauce?

>what's wrong
one of the less popular members of the Ironmouse/Veibae/Nyanners organization feels like she's being left behind due to poor numbers and possibly was told that something that she had been planning wasn't going to happen

seems obvious enough

>>36413912
Ah right from back than. That's not really being menhera though like what's happening with Silvervale. Silvervale made a tweet basically saying fuck it, shit sucks, I'm going on vacation while Gen 5 and Gen 4 just lament a bit about it on stream but stepped things up to compensate.

>>36414092
If that isn't menhera enough then Pekora and Nene have cried on stream and then gone on breaks for unknown reasons.

>>36414092
multiple talents breaking down on stream?

>>36412027
>boohoo why aren't there more losers and kids to easily suck money and attention out of, woe is me, all the losers and kids following me now are worthless because there aren't enough of them

>>36414039
her patreon

her numbers have been good lately, she's been getting close to 5k viewers almost every stream this month
she must have gotten snubbed over a sponsorship or an e-celeb collab

>>36414236
>Multiple talents breaking down
I mean if you want to call them basically going "Feels kinda bad, oh well let's make sure to pull our weight" as a breakdown sure.

I have never seen a company with less chemistry between talents than VShojo. It's like as if they had a company-wide PekoMiko incident within the past year and now they don't talk to each other, on or off stream, and don't even bother to keep up pretenses of them liking each other. Seems like a toxic environment.

Maybe they told her the girls outside of the top 3 aren’t getting any of that goodsmile merch (nendoroids and figures).

>>36414640
I believe it's because of gen 2

>>36413404
What a sad life you have

>>36413803
why don't you two fags just get married already

>>36412027
>subpar analytic
numberfag management?

she's sad her numbers aren't constantly going up rapidly anymore since vtubing isn't the no-effort free meal ticket it was during covid anymore. These women never cared about streaming or gaming other than the money and that's drying up. such is the life of a lazy whore

It must suck to have your oshi post something like this honestly.

>>36415821
It's gonna be really exciting to see how many people drop out of the vtuber/streamer life when shit really hits the fan in the next couple of years and people can't afford to throw money at them stupidly. I've been seeing a few hobbies that I'm into have people selling out of their collections out of Europe a lot more recently and I assume that wave will hit the US sooner or later.

>>36415821
>anymore
her numbers have been basically stable for literally two years

look at a graph before cooking up narratives please

>>36413069
Solution: Git gud
And if she sucks and can't improve beyond more coomer shit, then quit.

>>36415821
Most of them stream for fun

>>36416014
if your oshi is posting patreon videos of her model getting fucked by faceless men then maybe you should regret the decisions you've made in life

>>36412027
>Hardwork
lol

>>36416478
she specifically streams to be a menhera slut for money, i guess onlyfans didn't work out

>>36416588
*clutches pearls* no... anything but porn of my oshi...

>>36416721
Okay? No one really cares for silver
I was talking about mouse, she streams for fun and absolutely mogs a ton of fags

>>36416775
You said "most" of them not just Mouse. Does most also include Froot, Zen, and Nyan as well?

>>36412027
Talent freedom bros? I thought vhsojo wasn't a company?

looks like she's taking a break to hang out with ame

>>36412027
shes sweet

>>36412027
She's one of the only people I actually feel sorry for since she seems like a really nice and caring person.

She'd be much happier as my wife without having to worry about numbers or making money though.

what is it about her that makes her so much less successful than vei/mouse/nyan? she obviously works harder

>>36423245
She doesn't suck up to huge ecelebs.

>>36423245
Other VShojo girls resent for doing GFE, fanbases ape their oshis

>>36412027
Vshojo literally just takes in the scraps that are somehow too fucked up in the head for the other companies. In the short term it works, but in the long-term it's a powder keg just waiting to explode.

>>36412027
>what's wrong with this vshojo bitch again?
She puts out schedules, does fun community events, has VRchat meetups with her fans, pumps out content on three different platforms diligently, does Patreon content, hangs out with her Discord server, listens to her fans for feedback, always puts on her best foot forward for streams and tries to make everyone as welcome as possible. And how is she rewarded for all this effort? Some other lazy retard from VShojo goes live randomly (schedules are oppressive, here in vshojo we believe in talent freedom to go live whenever we want, fuck the fans and we don't care about overlap), puts on some YouTube videos because she's taking it easy today (also tomorrow, and the day after it), steals half of Silver's viewers and then peaks at 4x her numbers. After the stream, she asks VShojo management if they've managed to get her any sponsorships or merch collabs for her, and they tell her that nobody wants to work with her because she's not Ironmouse/Veibae/Nyanners, and also she's not invited to the fun gameshow that they're holding next week, nothing personal, the numbers just don't justify it.

Wouldn't you be a bit upset? I would be.

>>36423955
>she's not invited to the fun gameshow that they're holding next week
I've really been enjoying Filian's streams with Silver and Mel. Would be interested in seeing them become closer friends and streaming together more often.

It's clear as day that nobody in vshojo actually cares about each other.

>>36412027
>subpar analytic
Holy shit is she referring to (You)?

Women are humans who sometimes feel sad.

>>36424149
M-MASAKA!!!??

>>36412186
>safety
>Threw indies under the bus and didn't say jackshit to applicants about the ongoing scam
To this day I still believe she is either stupidly retarded or just read a script.

>>36423955
Almost like casual viewers who are most likely to find you in Twitch are mongs and want memery and lewd 24/7 and if you try to do anything other than that, they'll tune out quickly.

>>36412027
The fuck, I thought this whore was pretty mentally stable, what happened this time?

>>36424132
Probably. My parents said the same thing about me before she went to buy milk and cigarettes 20 years ago.

>>36412348
KEK. I would say is either vtubing or onlyfans with her massive tits.

>>36423245
She's actually nice to her viewers, vshojo fans want whores who hate them, cuck them and shit on them like nyanners and vei

>>36414039
its fucking trash her lewds are fucking drawings lmaooooo, at least noel has the decency to pull her tits out now, this bitch isnt even a discount noel shes nothing.

>>36423955
The feeling is valid. I believe Silver isn't doing the wrong things, but the thing is, that in this business, the output is largely randomized regardless of input. And there are some really lazy strategies that just have a really high likelihood of paying off.
I wish that Silver's strategy would yield better results. Because I'd rather have 1 Silver than 10 of the people she feels left out by.

>>36424257
Working hard, not yielding the results she dreams of, rinse, repeat. It's exhausting no matter what field you work in. This field is just more susceptible to that than most.

>>36416329
>when shit really hits the fan in the next couple of years and people can't afford to throw money at them stupidly.
It's not even money as it is time. There isn't enough time in the world to watch all your favorite vtubers and their VODs.

>>36412270
Veybey silvervale theyre all the same in the vshojo

>>36424451
na veibae is just a retarded coomer, silvervale is fucking insane and terrifying.

>>36412027
She’s comparing herself to her coworkers despite them demonstrating significantly more popularity. I haven’t watched her in a year but I am guessing she is still boring and is trying to compensate with expensive and fancy models when everything comes down to personality in the end.

>>36425384
her personality is great though, the only problem she has is that she isn't as much of a shameless leech like her peers and she suffers for that.
Ironmouse got popular by collabing with hundreds of different streamers, veibae's boyfriend is one of the biggest streamers on twitch and she gets a ton of daily exposure from him, I'm not sure about nyanners but she has been around for well over a decade at this point. She should compare herself to people like melody or filian who are at a similar level of success.

>>36412588
>blocks your path
does being retarded constitute being menhera?

>>36412588
I agree with this except for Ame.

>>36416329
Ironmouse /and zen will unironically be doing this forever, even if they dip back down to 5 ccv. both streamed for YEARS at low numbers and have the autism to do it. And the person having a threesome with both of them after the vtubing crash of early 2023?

Yeah, that’s me.

>>36424149
DYRBI?

>>36425715
why would you want to have a threesome with those whores after they're worthless?

>>36425825
If a whore marries you it means you have proven more valuable than all the men she’s met. She will stay by your side.
If a virgin marries you then it’s just because you’re the first dick she’s tasted. She’ll move on.

>>36425825
You should be able to appreciate the importance of men being willing to have sex with used-up whores.
It's how you were conceived, after all.

>>36425892
>If a virgin marries you then it’s just because you’re the first dick she’s tasted. She’ll move on.
If she was a virgin when she married you then it couldn't have been because of your cock because she would no longer be a virgin.

>>36425920
BASED

>>36415821
lol it's hilarious how people still think we aren't a year removed from covid being relevant to numbers

>>36425537
Hahaha no. I've seen the himbo act before, you can't fool me.

>>36413002
Only Kiara admitted to being obsessed with numbers.

>>36412027
Reeks of unwarranted entitlement. She should look at herself and what she is and think how she's any different from your usual 3view virtual meat

>>36413912
And gen 5 is now doing much better than Myth. It probably wasn't a good idea to debut them so close together, though.

>>36415473
She's probably missing out on merch, sponsorships and events, because she's in the bottom 3 of VShojo.

>>36412027
She's obsessed over not being the big earner despite all her efforts to be it. It's been known she gets moody when another member gets a bust upgrade on their model because they're "encroaching her territory"

>>36414640
They did, there was some kind of drama around last November and they've never been the same since. That, and the company panders to Mouse/Nyan mostly, and the rest fight for scraps.

>>36414039
https://files.catbox.moe/o799b2.png
https://files.catbox.moe/rqyzfp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/esy6jo.png

>>36426896
>posts poggywoggy retard that likes to trashtalk

>>36412027
Isn't this the whore that paid for a shill interview then proceeded to lie about Nijisanji and Hololive, got called out then had a mental breakdown to the point where the interview had to be taken down?

>>36412027
>Deceptive aura of bubblegum, unicorns and rainbows, whilst also being pervy
>Actually one of the top colossal bitches of Vshojo

>>36412027
Nobody tell her about proton decay and the heat death of the universe.

why doesn't she just apply to hololive

>>36428619
ok nyanners

>>36414159
Still no info about Pekora crying to this day?

>>36428741
She genuinely loves her community and would never leave them behind even with an "i'll see you guys elsewhere ;)" asterisk.

Unless Hololive starts considering those Suisei deals she'll never join.

>>36428405
Yes.
>>Silvervale: We want to show that there is an agency which is not like Hololive and Nijisanji. You can be yourself, you can have relationship and talk about yourself and your parents. Just be yourself and not be tied down by all these expectations.
Here is one of Whorejos paid shills infesting this thread and board
https://twitter.com/ihhhhiii/with_replies

>>36428653
nobody tell her about the infinitely rising rate of universal expansion or dead internet theory

>>36428797
she needs to show a nice offer, good thing Suisei was a great dealer

but i think they wouldn't accept someone who paywalls nsfw arts of themselves with the main account

>>36413912
even Botan?

>>36412842
Kek she has such low intellect that she walked right into that writer's ((journalistic integrity))). Wtf did she expect?

I can't imagine being like the type of people who camp twitter waiting for shit like this to pop up. I genuinely can't understand giving a shit about random e-celebs and what they say on twitter beyond streams. What are you doing with your life?

>>36412186
>cons: nothing
lmao
the stream that fooled the chuuba formerly known as rushia into a slow death

>>36429609
>>36412778
If you're an active Twitter user, it's normal for those tweets to pop up whenever someone you follow likes them or even just by being recommended because you're following VTubers, it's not some schizo shit anon

>>36430090
It's not schizo shit, it's just sad.

>>36429612
well, it's nothing to her because she can take care of herself, they only provide names and maybe technology to her so it's a benefit

>>36414640
Anon, the entire reason vshojo even exists was because of pic related literally breast feeding them out of 2view status, he was their only cohesive glue and they eventually shunned him, they now have nothing in common together

>>36430291
I don't think it's sadder than spending your time here desu

>>36423245
She was never really an interesting streamer, she unironically needs a boyfriend and get him to manage everything like amouranth in order for her to stay on top

>>36431793
Why are VShojo fans so obsessed with trying to hook up their vtubers with random men? Did Nyanners' reveal really mindbreak them all into having an NTR fetish?

>>36432144
fucking tell me about it

>one streamer who does GFE in the entire org
>NOOOOO WE CAN'T HAVE THIS SHE NEEDS A BF NOOOW

>>36432213
Sounds kind of like the Luxiemsister-Pomudachi. Some fans just hate each other

>>36425537
Not really, that dude is retarded but he's still in control of his emotions.

>>36412027
>never streams
>cries about being unpopular

>>36432213
Imagine if a Hologirl insisted on bringing her bf on every stream and how that would clash with the Hololive identity and brand. It's literally that but in reverse.

>>36412027
>Shows up in Mouse's chat and comments on the new model during her debut with 30k viewers
>Tweets this shortly after and deletes it
Gee, I wonder.

>>36432660
I used to watch this woman but I STG she disappeared for awhile or something. Maybe the hours just didn’t matchup and I am always missing her streams. Oh well

>>36432783
VShojo literal NTR and cuck company lol - please kick nazuna out!

She streamed on average 50 hours a month this year ans fucks off for every major game release that could give her numbers to play it off stream. One day she will say I like my comfy Community the next day she is numberfagging like crazy.

>>36413912
>All of gen 5 has talked about feeling inferior to HoloEN
They had to realize they were courting two different audiences, right

What's this about people wanting silver to get a bf? Did she and gicuck break up or something?

>>36432213
I guess with how some Niji fans love shipping, they view themselves self-inserting as the streamer's SO? It's fucking weird though.

>>36433096
Vei does the same while actually having sex with her viewers so why is that different?

>>36433273
Vei doesnt tweet how she "works" hard.

>>36425526
Yeah if it wasnt for connor mousey would be also on the low end of ccv. But that is the nature of twitch desu

>>36433127
nips only care about status dude dont think for a second they arent numberfagging the shit out of themselves, its condtioned into them from a young age.

join vshojo it will be fun they said

>>36434006
she should cry more publicly on twitter about im sure thats gonna make them want to include her more...

>>36434006
GunRun, time to cut the roster.

>>36434006
i can save her...with my cock

>>36434006
she should just unironically join any other corpo at this point
at least they pretend to care for each other or can make friends instead of being self centered assholes with nothing in common like everyone in vshojo

>>36433479
>Yeah if it wasnt for connor mousey would be also on the low end of ccv
Not necessarily, Mouse was growing pretty steadily before that and when they started collabing had more viewers than he did. The man was way less successful on Twitch than on YouTube. Pretty sure she was already typically getting more viewers than Silver does now at that point.

>>36434006
many such cases

the vshojo audience hates her, even the threads shit on her for being different
she has no overlap with any of her coworkers and they don't interact with each other besides Froot

talent freedom includes the freedom to be totally ignored by your genmates

>>36434544
>one of the few genuine EN GFEtubers, basically Ame but uncorrupted by Tempus (not a coincidence they were friends years ago)
>ended up in VShojo
>hated by the entire audience for not cucking them with an on-stream bf
Life is a comedy...

>>36432907
That's.... fucking sad.... damn silver...

>>36434281
Is that why Kson is so fat?

>>36434006
>in other news, water is wet and the sky is blue

>>36424255
She's in the wrong company to do anything but be a stereotypically western slut, anon. Them's the breaks.

>>36435067
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
https://kemono.party/patreon/user/20146355
We are talking about her here right?

>>36435110
A part of any real GFE is taking care of your fan's sexual urges. You wouldn't want them jacking off to other women.

>>36435110
Read the chain of replies. Anon was commenting on how she put in more work but is mogged by lazy girls being whores.

Anyway as someone who watched less than ten minutes of her, the first impression she gives is of being super flat personality-wise. No major yabs either before this so she just wasn't all that interesting.

>>36435110
Living up to the whorejo name

>>36434006
Bitch, thats is the experience of 99.99% of humanity. You should be grateful to have any audience at all. What an entitled cunt.

>>36435110
does her patreon make more than twitch?

>>36435279
You underestimate how many vtubers publish paywalled adult content for fans.

>>36435408
My oshi would never.

>>36434810
It's called empowerement, not fat.

>>36424552
I havn't adjusted to Twitch and I don't watch Vshoujo. Although between them all, Silver has my interest. Why do you say that she's "insane and terrifying?"

>>36435403
Why do you think she doesn't stream

>>36435434
yeah she only publishes it in my dms lmaoo

>>36435434
And neither would mine. Vshitshow does not have a monopoly on being whores online, is all.

>>36435445
she's been pumped and dumped many times and non of them played with her gigantic tits, that would turn anyone into a menhera.

>>36435408
Oh yeah? List every vtuber who does paywalled adult content. please

>>36424149
Dont fucking lie to me.

>>36435445
Silver is a legit nice girl. She's not very deep, plenty dumb as it should be, super wholesome, loves her fans to bits. If you watch chuubas for their personality/voice/company, she might be for you. Don't watch her if you want content.

>>36435620
Check archives for lewdtuber general, they have a decent OP.

>>36435620
Other than whorejo I cant think of a single one. There are whore companies that employ vtubers for masturbation ASMR but vshojo isn't a company so you cant compare them equally.

>>36435794
>Check archives for lewdtuber general, they have a decent OP.
It just lists people who literally stream on chaturbate. It's not the same as a pure wholesome vtuber who has a secret side on Fantia.

>>36434544
Are they the same ones that keep crying about "parasocial incels that keep harrassing the chuubas into not being in relationships"?

>>36435891
found the faggot who pays 50k yen a month for La+'s dogshit asmr page

>>36434810
she needs to cope a lot

>>36435172
That's slightly true. I don't mean they have to do chaturbate streams but a GFE isn't pure platonic love, there has to be a bit of a intimacy and physical attraction component to it, like there would be with a real life girlfriend.
But this could be just throwing a normal ASMR or lewd-ish comment every now and then.

>>36434281
>Holoniggers make shit up about her
>somehow it's Vshojo's fault
ogey

>>36436293
was it them that made silver post this too >>36434006
You are a mentally handicapped and obsessed schizoid

I have always refuses to to pay for this shit, but god damn those audios made me diamonds like nothing else, maybe the paypigs are onto something. they are living their best life

>>36436293
>Vshojo good
>Hololive bad
ogey

>>36436386
How would I know, I don't give a shit about Silvervale

>>36436464
Whose?

>>36436482
we know.
You go into every thread obsessing with hololive like some braindead schizoid

>>36435794
From what I've seen, I really love and appreciate her for the traits you mentioned. How does she feel about new people that came in late compared to those who have been with her since the beginning?

>>36436487
>>36435110

my bad

>>36436558
It's not a problem

>>36436466
>Vshojo bad
>Hololive bad

>>36435794
>personality
She's flat and uninteresting, anon. You pretty much said she offers nothing, but you'll enjoy her if you already love her person for some reason.

Aren't you kind of a pariah for sponsors when you do porn content?

>>36437110
If you don't like what's listed then watch someone else. Don't know what else to tell you.

>>36434006
Ame will convince her to join Holo EN 3

>>36412747
Because she need the validation of people on twitter to feel good for like 10 minutes before she realise it's superficial attention.

>>36437309
wouldn't that make all of VShojo pariahs?

>>36437986
NTA but you know how it is, pariahs with big numbers, the brands are happy to gloss over it until some fag on twitter kicks up fuzz about it. That aside, I don't believe some paywalled porn that's not being advertised on her main platform is a problem.

>>36412812
That's some extreme tripfagging right there

>>36434006
I sort of hate creatives with high numbers complaining about being some sort of unimportant and useless person. It's basically either showing how crazy entitled they are, or how idiotic they are. You have influence, money, friends, and opportunities others can only dream of. You've probably saved many people from their own pain, and have done many great things to be proud of. Yet, you complain the moment you remember you can have more.

It's not that I don't believe they can complain at all, we all have those thoughts. It's just...why entertain them at all? Especially when you're ONE OF THE MOST RECOGNIZABLE VTUBERS EVER. But I suppose the good things you've done won't be enough to fill your greed huh?

>>36438096
Check the archives for his trip. He goes beyond faggotry in shitting up every single thread on the board.

>>36437986
Mel and Silver are really the only ones that have made porn. The rest just had to clean up their retweets.

Please if you know any Holo or Niji talent scouts, tell them to email Silvervale with some offers. She averages about 4k CCV and has a more loyal fanbase than the vast majority of norm-infested ENtubers. She enjoys doing GFE (rarity among ENtubers) and as for the lewds I'm sure you can negotiate a way to make it acceptable for your brand. With any outside help you can grow her into a 10k streamer. She's been completely abandoned by VShojo for two years. Give her a hand.

>>36438860
This is the most embarrassing post of the year
This is a new low that goes beyond homobeggars

>>36438860
I don't know about Holo, but NijiEN's fanbase in its current state might end up bad for her, albeit for completely different reasons than Vshojo. Mainly because the female to male viewer ratio completely grew over time, and lord knows how bad that would be for her.

>>36438860
Does Niji even allow people to bring their own avatars? Holo certainly doesn't, Suisei was an one time thing and let to a lot of headaches.

Her best bet might be joining Phase Connect and becoming their star.

>>36439117
I can see some talents of PC getting along with Silver actually. Everyone and their mom is suggested for phase invaders tho, and I also feel like Silver herself would think of it as a downgrade. It's basically being a peasant in the opulent state of vshojo vs being king of the 3rd phaseworld.

>>36412027
>hard work and commitment
>nobody in the thread bats an eye to this
Wait... do you people actually believe that being a vshojo is hard work?

>>36439331
There's no doubt it's a downgrade but yeah. She's not going to holo, and Niji would be Vshojo but way worse, I fear. I wonder if she could start a friendship with Shylily over this.
>>36439967
Either the bar so so low that no one is surprised, or no one pays enough attention to her to question it.

It's because Elon is giving checkmarks out as long as you pay him the Twitter Pass fee. She realized she fought for a checkmark for NOTHING.

>>36439967
Anon, it's not even that.. Silver has somehow streamed less than even Vei in the last year and claims she's put in hard work. Bitch be crazy.

>>36440208
haha based I love oligarchs

>>36440131
she is probably secretly insanely jealous of shylily for her explosive growth this year. silver would never be able to keep up appearances if they spent a lot of time together

>>36438860
Even if she was getting accepted, Which she should try to audition tbg the only shit you need if you belive the girls and boys is that you can work as a team, the gunrun and the girls would absolutely shit on her because it will ruin the whole "talent freedom" slogan.

>>36440458
>probably
whorejo doesn't hide their hate of shylily thats a guarantee

>>36440438
Is yagoo the oligarch of vtubers?

>>36434006
>She’s not wrong.

There’s a reason Hololive standardizes outfits/membership streams/merch rollout.

It establishes a sense of fairness. With something like Vshoujo you got Mouse doing Mr.Beast tactics to generate more eyes and money.

With the brakes off, Pekora could just buy 200 outfits and run the whole debut hype timeloop to keep sponging viewers. Throw money to make money, talent need not apply.

>>36438860
t. Silvervale

>openly has husband yet does gfe
>prostitutes herself on patreaon on her chuuba account
>lazy, never streams
>constantly complains despite being in the top 1% of chuubas who made it out of obscurity
No Silver, you don't get to join Holo or Niji, you're right where you belong. If you can't take it, quit vtubing and go back to being a 3dpd along with your ironic weeb husband and friends

>>36412027
I'm starting to hate this big titty whore.

>>36413287
She's a shill, not an idiot.

>>36441106
>openly has husband yet does gfe
She doesn't have a husband anon. She just spends time with ugly bastards in VRChat.

>>36413068
I literally follow that dude just to see the titles of the games he's playing because I usually like the same kinds, but I'm amazed he still has an audience
>hey chat it's time to replay darkest dungeon for the millionth time
>hey chat its time to replay TAB
>hey chat I tried to cancel innocent people just to appease my psycho gf

>>36412027

Seems like a lot of vtubers having meltdowns on twitter lately. Kind of funny honestly.

>>36442031
The community is dying and it's all their fault lol lmao

I'm glad, fuck all these clout chasing bastards who ruined my hobby. RETVRN to skits and small japanese indies.

>>36442087
nah, they're gonna burn the hobby to the ground, and then say "we tried to save it, but it was already dying, like, it was toxic, really, nothing to be done, follow my new account! :)"

>>36433127
If you look at their perspective at that time its easy to see why
>moris orisongs arround her debut days blows japs minds
>rhombus insane sub growth, mass clipped by jap clippers too
>an artist with real drawing skills in holo
then probably someone doomposts about their JP viewers will mass migrate to holoEN

>>36443371
incredibly based and real post

>>36441939
who is this

>>36416329
that french faggot and Pokimane are still making money, there's no shortage of simps

>>36443717
someone who will never be watched by either of the two depicted in the pic

>>36443717
The seething 1view in question. I can bet my left nutsack if I went to her twitter right now she graduated or converted into a 3DPD onlyfans whore

>>36435794
If she loved her fans to bits she'd be happy with the ones she has which allow her to live a comfortable life rather than complaining about numbers.

>>36444134
Looks like she is not very active in her twitter, her last post was the 19 of September, but she is active at least on twitch, she streamed 21hr ago she is a genshi streamer with a declining audience

>>36444581
You need to be a real retard to shit on the Hololive audience as a vtuber.

>>36412027
When all your problems are gone because you are successful enough to live carefree , but you decide to find problems.

>>36435794
>Don't watch her if you want content.
Why would you watch someone if their content is shit?

>>36444698
Not only hololive, I would apply this principle to 4 corpos:
>Hololive
>Nijisanji
>Vshojo still a corpo stop faggotring about not being one
>maybe maybe Phase Connect

>>36444891
Never shit on vshojo/holo/niji because you will get blacklisted fast.
mocca's biggest mistake

>>36444465
I think the root of her complaint is that she wants to be treated as equal by/in her company, not that she is unhappy with her fans. She hasn't said what prompted the whinging but there was some decent speculation further up. I think wanting to be equal vs loving her fans can coexist. Yes, it is a high-level complaint considering that she has "made" it, and floats miles above the sea of 1views, but so is every developed country over 3rd world shitholes, yet you likely complained about something mundane to someone in your lifetime that 3rd worlders would be happy to have as their problem. It's a perspective thing.

>>36444830
The clue was in the first half of the post. I don't care what games chuubas play or how good they are at them. I just want a pleasant voice talking about nonsense they care about. Zatsudans are the best content.

>>36445043
Mocca's mistake was not only speaking the truth, but telling the truth to a talent that was part of the third wave of NijiEN.
And that third wave talent being friends with at least two people from NijiEN's first wave.

>>36445211
>Zatsudans are the best content.
You need an actual personality for that. Being a basic bitch is not enough.

>>36445381
Mocca's mistake is being mentally ill. There's no saving him from that, he already burned every bridge that he had.

>>36445453
>>36437543

>>36445211
Is obvious gunrun doeant give a fuck about equality of oportunities.

>>36445586
>>36412027

>>36445574
yeah, Mocca's main enemy is himself.

>>36413589
If there's anyone free right now it's Japan. Western subtlety is not yet healed of years of globalism exposure. Now help Japan up from globalism.

>>36440538
Mouse, Mel, and Zen have all collabed with Lily. Even Vei is friends with her now.

>>36412027
i mean, it's not like she has any other discernible features anyway. so instead she just resorts to drama.

>>36434006
lol

>>36412027
Less is more. You don't want to be establishment big over highest quality do you?
A million dollars made with no one's objection in covid times. While so many lost their jobs to the politically motivated hit list of the ADL, where they still are today.
Is competitive apolitical political incorrectness not heaven's calling?

>>36427408
She has all of those.

>>36430291
NTA i dont even follow any of the vshojo circle and this tweet still winded up in my feed

>>36414159
Pekora cried for something totally unrelated to numbers. If you can't keep going with the argument just stop posting.

>>36450410
She probably has less of those than the others.

>>36440438
I mean Twitter needs to stay in business and this makes sense, from a financial standpoint. He blew $44 billion dollars on this white elephant.

>>36441939
She failed the hololive audition, huh.

>>36412027
She seems to be ok right now

>>36432907
What the fuck is her problem? Just use talents freedom like she always promote, bitch can't even do original content with the freedom she have and now bitching to mousey.

>>36441106
Silver doesn't have a husband

>>36426896
That not a himbo, that a pos, himbo care more about the people and oblivious to their surroundings. This guy literally made pomu cry.

>>36455895
She does, and it's me.

>>36434006
She gets paid a surgeon's salary to talk about being horny to easily amused teens, why is she whining?

>>36434006
She can only be saved by getting pregnant.

>>36432144
It's only /vt/ that does that. They've constructed this utterly bizarre narrative that Silver has tried mogging after every man that has wound up being attached to the other Vshojo girls (Connor, Aethel and Sodapoppin) even though at best she never really dealt with them much outside of being distantly cordial (Connor, Aethel) or them being outright creepy at them to the point where another friend needed to step in to get him to back off (Soda)

>>36437309
It's behind closed doors, and otherwise unassociated with her forward-facing persona (unlike Mel, who openly streams on CB). So no, her having naughty fanart and sharing exclusive stuff on Patreon isn't a factor.

>>36435235
She's had plenty of yab tweets. It's just that she usually deletes them pretty quickly.

>>36432907
I never thought I'd want to Save a VShojo...

Silvervale, stream on Youtube.

>>36412923
Do I have to remember you guys about Aki? literally complaining live on stream about how low her numbers were and she was unpopular on the west and about the lack of clippers she had, and when some clipper translated that section she thanked him directly for all the pitty views/subs she got?

>>36438860
Take your meds Silver

>But what about Hololive!!
Rent free

>>36462923
i dont give a fuck about aki

>>36439117
>>36439331
PC viewers don't like vshitjo. She might be a sad girl but she represents the reason en vtubers went in a certain direction.

At the end of the day she made the mistake of clinging onto melody and joined that company.

If one day silver leaves she will just be another /lig/ger that doesn't need backing

>>36438860
Lmao she got blacklisted after that stupid article, or at least seen in a bad light.

No damage control, no apology by vshitshow, nothing to save her bacon.

>>36428799
Don't forget their massive shill the clipper that abandoned shilling indies and anything else for vshitshow 99 percent

https://mobile.twitter.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1549427417500028928

>>36412027
>be whore number three million and six
>realize it's actually really easy to just get in front of a camera and make middle school sex jokes and shake your boobs
>why am I not making more money off a gimmick three million other twitch streams are doing

Golly I just don't know. Maybe people are a lot more willing to pay for creativity than for very basic coomerbait.

>>36423245
The corp's fans are 90% normies and 10% the cucks on here who like Vei bragging about cybering with her boyfriend. Reminder the biggest incline they've had is when they went on a gameshow with Mizkif/Sodapoppin/some other ecelebs I don't know the name off.

>>36463339
>blacklisted
Here we go again.

>>36412027
>Dumb slut complaining about having low numbers
Jee, i wonder why?
https://files.catbox.moe/k5wqpm.mp4
Link related, i knew Silvervale is a massive bitch.

>>36430427
isn't it because of them that she can't stream on yt and is forced to use shitty twtich?
not exactly doing her a service there

>>36463879
Veibae certainly did for sure

>>36463493
Don't tarnish the OG clipper's name, he retired and the one person he left the account to turned out to be a hidden shill.

>>36460686
She pretty clearly hit on Aethel in some deleted tweets.

>Goes to Silvervale's twitter
>She starts damage controling from that tweet OP posting
Holy fucking shit, what a dumb bitch.

>>36464274
She usually turns into one when the mask slips
>>36464961
And she still threw her orgmates under the bus

>>36438860

>>36441939
>blacklisted
I understand their frustration, but why burn bridges like that?

>>36424388
Noel does nudes now?

>>36423955
Seems like her fault for not being able to attract more people, also if she is really averaging 4k like that other anon said, then I guess Vshojo is pretty brutal in the number departament, 4k is what Kiara, Ame, Bae avg too. It's not a shabby viewership.

>>36444891
To any corpo in general, why the fuck attack some random corpo as an indie? they don't even know who the chuba is probably and is already burning bridges for no reason, you never know when any of those could give you a chance now or in the future, it baffles me that these retards don't think long term, just look at this rrat, was an indie, made it into a small corpo and now is part of the big 3, she climbed the ladder as far as she could and is on a good spot, you never know when you will do the old switcherino so burning bridges is retarded specially if you don't have somewhere to fall

>>36453077
Even if he charged $20 a pop a month for all 400k verified accounts, he still wouldn't make back even a quarter of what he spent for the platform in a century. Still glad he did it because this will hasten Twitter's death, and the world will be a much better place when we all go back to our niche corners of the internet and stop giving a shit about the opinions of perpetually online strangers.

>>36412027
This comment is fairly common for internet personalities. I think she should just keep it to herself or probably post it on her private twitter.
Or if she still wants to post this, maybe lessen her posts.

I like her in the sense that we share the same fetish and she has a good model. Don't really care about her personality. If more people drew porn of her I'd at least have a pity fap every now and then.

>>36464505
>he still believes this
Here we go again.

>>36466594
What's your fetish Anon?

>>36466910
Giantess, she at least joked about having it before.

>>36412027
It in no way reflects actual her. She could be getting hacked, animal heat drama flaring (it is November) or just doing a signal intelligence or meme meta or genuinely not settling for the typical raw deal again which is what I hope you do. Either way her and Froot hate the NWO and globalism and social engineering.

>>36464418
yeah, but i was talking about kson, look at those who helped her arrange her anniversary 3d concert