/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>316106
>streams on NND mainly
gee I fucking wonder why?
EOPs still watch her utawaku, English practices etc. which is already more attention than most of the holos get here. She's not underrated at all.

I don't care about your post but I never pass the chance of posting Sora

Its probably the lack of meme potential. She's been known as the only true seiso Holo and it probably hasn't helped her wallet. Hence why she said the no-no word on Coco's show.

Sora has been on constant and consistent incline. She never had a BIG BOOM like Miko, Pekora or Korone, but she's doing very well.

>>316154
The thing is, Sora has great meme potential but has the hard filter of being the normal non-energetic one. That's why 90% of the memes during the reddit review were only about her being seiso.

>>316106
Someone post the sora gif/webm where she is looking at you with suggesting eyes and just doing a random loop of a gang sign.
Sora has the biggest meme potential, yet she is cornered by COVER.

I suspect Yagoo will let her have some breathing space soon, where she could unleash her true self.

Until then, we can only support her.

Bootleg Kizuna Ai

>>316106
Honestly, I think she's kinda boring. Which isn't exactly bad, since you need a baseline level of seiso to make the not seiso joke funny and she provides it, but I'm the kind of viewer that watches vtubers for the yabai shit, not the seiso stuff.

Nobody brings up her stalking everyone on minecraft

>>319559
Her way of stalking is actually the first step to borderline nudism fetish. She has a lot of secrets she is hiding for Yagoo's sake.

She is the staple of Hololive afterall.

>>316106
I don't like pop music, she's kinda boring and her BGM is irritating as fuck.

>>316106
Low tier 3d model

>>316106
Her mouth doesn't move

>>316106
The thing about Sora is that she's not the #1 of most of the audience, but, at the same time, most of the audience probably at least views her favorably. I personally think she's a cool person and a good performer, and I respect her for it.

you guys have no idea how hard sora makes me

she is an actress(she has a series) and singer first, streamer second and is the most recognizable in japan

>>319430

>>316106
She's not very expressive. Her Minecraft streams constantly have a lullaby going, her collabs rarely involve larger Hololive channels, the others hololive characters seem terrified of her, and even though the's practicing to interact with the English-speaking world, she's the most sanitized of all the characters. You get to her channel and talk, but there's no much to really do.
>>317069
>Sora has great meme potential
Please expand on this.

>>316154
She said herself she's not as seiso as people meme her out to be, but I guess in the context of her colleagues, she is the most seiso on the seiso-yabai scale.

I suppose the best way to describe her is a modern-day yamato nadeshiko.

>>329830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-SGrTjfIc

Sora reminds me of those people who are just naturally perfect.
Have you guys ever met people like that? They just are friendly, well-adjusted, smart, talented and always working people.

I knew this one guy, and I honestly couldn't relate to him. He just DID stuff. He was always revising when alone. And would pause revising to have a chat, and then just...resume. You'd think he was an autist, but when you talk, they shine with extrovertedness, and are really social and overwhelm you with how full of knowledge they are. This guy even knew memes, and stupid shit that losers involve themselves into. He was decently fit and performed average on sports day, so wasn't even a loser then.

And then you find out, they are talented outside school and attend after school music classes, and are really good on a instrument.

It's unbelievable. I sat next to this guy, and I was so full of anxiety to hold a conversation, I spilled spaghetti every time we talked. Felt not worthy to be apart of his life, like I just interrupted him. Everything he did, every time he spoke, it was perfect.

You know the moment he talked in a conversation, it was the perfect line and everyone laughs. And when he laughs, everyone laughs as well, because it is the correct time to laugh.

Everytime you think he HAD a fault, it wasnt a fault. It was just HIM. And made people like HIM. Theyd say he was dorky sometimes, because he was cute in his perfect way.

I tried to hate him, but it just falls flat. I was just bored with him.
I tried to be his friend, but I just had more fun with the losers who has faults.


That's how I feel about Sora. You can tell she's just a perfect person, and has this energy that makes losers quiver.
I quite like Sora because of that. The meme of her being perfect isn't a meme, its total reality. She's dorky sometimes, like her stalking other members in minecraft, but that's Sora.

dont worry, anon. shes doing well on NND on top of her albums selling like pancakes.

>>316106
She's definitely mostly an idol rather than a more generalized entertainer like most of the popular holos and I think the concept of an idol is a very Japanese thing that can seem strange to an overseas audience, she's focused mostly on niconico which filters EOPs hard and also just isn't a good platform to begin with, and she really needs some updated rigging and also has a weird problem with her model lagging sometimes, I'm not sure if that's her phone or her PC doing that and it seems weird because I don't remember her old one doing that.

>>331671
Some people are just blessed with great genetics, a great childhood and great parents.
That's the way she goes. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't. That's the way she goes.

I need more Sora pics

>>329986
>Please expand on this.
Exhibit A, if you ever wonder why so many are scared of a collab with Sora as soon as she asks for horror games it's this old collab with Azulim, she straight up made an 18 minute torture clip on someone else's channel

>>316106
fertile JK built for mating press

>>348506
she's 20 now, no longer a JK

>>316106
Sora had her heyday, people just move on to newer and fresher things. Be proud of what she's done for vtubing. She's not unpopular anyway, most everyone appreciates Sora even if she's not their favorite. Plus she's always busy with idol activities more than just streaming.

What is sad is her kouhai being unable to treat her like a friend. She radiates happiness whenever she collabs with someone, it's adorable. So it's lonely when so many of her JP kouhai put her on a pedestal, even if it's understandable.

Sora is THE Hololive and you cannot have Hololive without her. Even if you ignore her being the first Cover vtuber and Xmas miracle, the entire Hololive project is based on replicating her success being vtuber idol and they hilarious failed at it because they keep hiring otaku as opposed proper idol.
It quite funny to see how other Holo looks up to her despite most of them are much older than her. You can view Hololive hiring process as giving a second chance to middle age otaku to fulfiled their childish idol dream.
As far as Sora as a streamer. Is pretty much what you expect from "traditional" idol who try to communicate with her fan. just a nice cute grounded "seiso" girl.

>>352949
>they hilarious failed at it because they keep hiring otaku as opposed proper idol.
Sora's also an otaku though.

>>352949
No it’s not newfag, Sora started out as a JK and was then rebranded into an idol. The reason Sora is the main idol in Hololive is because she put in the work to improving her dancing, singing, and promotion skills.

>>349374
10 more years to hag love!

Bit of a newfag question, but have Sora and Kizuna ever done a proper collaboration? Other than that Revenue Starlight - Re LIVE- promo? Or Sora and Kaguya Luna?

>>329986
Compared to almost every other holo she is a healthy individual.
For them it's like getting too close to the sun.
They will get burned by it as she mirrors their psychological problems back to them just by existing and being a model.
Only a healthy person can stand criticism, certainly not most vtubers and not the ones from Hololive selected for their psychological issues.
This is also the reason they idolize her so much despite being in the same agency.
You don't collab with someone you perceive as a god easily.

>>331671
Nobody is perfect.
What you described is being a genuine person who accepted the world and does not fear it.
If you keep being with losers they will just reinforce your own weaknesses and prevent you from reaching your full potential.
If you wish to change force yourself to be with people who seem to have something you are missing and let them infect you with their positive qualities.

Law 10 of power:
>There are people who attract happiness to themselves by their good cheer, natural buoyancy, and intelligence. They are a source of pleasure, and you must associate with them to share in the prosperity they draw upon themselves. This applies to more than good cheer and success: All positive qualities can infect us.

>Use the positive side of this emotional osmosis to advantage. If, for example, you are miserly by nature, you will never go beyond a certain limit; only generous souls attain greatness. Associate with the generous, then, and they will infect you, opening up everything that is tight and restricted in you. If you are gloomy, gravitate to the cheerful. If you are prone to isolation, force yourself to befriend the gregarious.
>Never associate with those who share your defects-they will reinforce everything that holds you back. Only create associations with positive affinities.
>Make this a rule of life and you will benefit more than from all the therapy in the world.

>>333229
There is some great suffering behind what you perceive as luck.
It may be the inherited result of great efforts made by one of their parents or ancestors to overcome their issues and become the best version of themselves, but there is no other way to reach this result.
Someone chose to be happy and change their perception of the world to reach this result because to them being happy was more important than letting their own circumstances dictate how their life should be.
This choice can carry a great inertia over multiple generations, because every cycle repeats through the children who reproduce the thought patterns of their parents, even if they are toxic.

>>316145
based

>>354786
Anon, are you Japanese? Is Sora your oshi? I still don't know what the appeal is currently supposed to be. Back when she was the one idol girl, she was very expressive. That element was removed.
The other Hololive idols are already fine and beloved, especially GAMERS and Gen 3.

>>331671
I see her as a perpetual underdog;

-her voice too suited to cutesy idol songs and Vocaloids compared to the “cool” popular cover singers
-she can dance but isn’t as flexible to the dedicated dancers (she herself admitted)
-she’s very responsible with her money, but can be very childish and bad with tech and following fads when fresh
-very friendly, but said kindness makes it very hard to meme around
-has close indie friends, but few ones within Hololive

It’s honestly surprising how she survived as an Internet personality where loudness and memes are king. But that is also her charm

>>319620
tell me more about your rrat anon

>>331671
Anon, I legit think you were just in love with the guy and didn't know it. I'm sorry that you had to find out about your Bisexuality on /vt/ but literally no one like this exists. You just had a massive crush on him.

>>355526
This has nothing to do with it.
The fans of a vtuber are like the vtuber itself.
They are attracted to similar qualities.
It makes sense that vtubers selected for their psychological issues would attract a large amount of followers with similar issues when watching the state of the world.
Does it look like the majority of people are living a healthy life?
No. The maximum target audience of each vtuber depends on the amount of people with similar psychological issues.

>>329830
Perfection.

I enjoyed her stream with Reine. I think hololive didn't really take off until we got the first gen and nobody goes back and watches her because they think she's boring in comparison.

>>355949
I'm asking why you like Sora, and your answer is that everyone else is mentally ill? Really?

>>355535
>tripfag
What she needs is a thick-skinned friend who can take a joke and is secretly in love with Sora but is too proud to admit it.
The thickness will eventually strip the kindness off of Sora and make her more daring and bold. Of course her kindness is a special charm, but if she is to survive, she should practice boldness, sadly.

I love her a she is but she needs to evolve if she is to survive.

>>316106
She is cute, but I care the most about collabs desu, so I wish she would do them more often.
>>319559
also that is cute

>>316154
>the lack of meme potential.
Well, she does have the thing going where she is unfazed by horror.

>>319620
>Her way of stalking is actually the first step to borderline nudism fetish
what.

>>355980
You are trying to deviate the discussion to ignore the facts by trying to project a personality type on me as a way to reject them by rejecting someone you don't like.
Just accept that you refuse the truth and chose to be unhappy instead of going in this roundabout way.

>>356322
>You are trying to deviate the discussion to ignore the facts by trying to project a personality type on me as a way to reject them by rejecting someone you don't like.
No, I'm asking you what you like about Sora. How fucking insecure are her fans?

>>356032
She’s been around for over three years

>>331671
>>355931
What this guys said, you were jsut idolising someone so even if they had any flaws you would jsut never accept it.

Nobody's perfect, nobody is ''blessed'', never put people on a pedestal.

>>354898
That sounds like some new age bullshit. It reads like.
>You need to act like parasite and suck the sucess out of people
What a sad way to live.

>>316106
Being seiso is boring OP

>>356747
She’s not for everyone. That’s why there is a group of them with different personalities

Its not because shes seiso, its just because she is boring. Being seiso doesn't mean you have to be boring.
She was picked for hololive because she was good at singing, and she is great at singing. But as more vtubers came out, it wasn't about singing. It was about being funny, having a personality, playing video games, and other things that come with streaming video games online.
Sora is pretty much a boomer who doesn't understand streaming. She was probably recruited for the job with the promise that it would be like AKB where all you have to do is sing and dance.

>>356855
Hololive wasn’t an idol group at the start, and the singing+dancing was something picked up months after her debut

>>356580
Is anyone but Sora and Aoi anything, but a twitching corpse?

Assuming she's talked about it, how did she end up working for Cover anyway? Did she just see an ad somewhere and apply?

>>363027
yagoo's niece

>>355034
Oh sure, there is effort involved, but having good parents and a good childhood is luck in the first place.

The problem is that she just has so much competition now. Marine and Haachama just have times during their streams I find really entertaining. I really like her but when I don't have Marine I have Haachama, then Kiara, then Towa etc.

I listen to a lot of her songs because her voice is great though. I listen to them the most because there's a lot of them but I'd be listening to Towa's songs if she had the same amount.

>>316130
her only member streams are immediately following public streams, it's been weeks since her last member stream on NND

>>363027
Hope you did your reps

I like Soda, and she's more goofy than people realize. She's just reserved and wants to be an actual idol, not a vidya-playing meme machine.

>>316106
Her doing her eigo reps (even before she started streaming them) made me sub. Just you wait, she'll incline like crazy.

>>331671
I can relate. I've been around people like that and their positive energy or aura that they have really is inspirational and heartwarming. I've definitely idolized those people. Of course they have flaws, but that doesn't matter when I, watching from afar, only ever see the good side and am learning from those good example. So don't let the critics convince you otherwise, idolizing those amazing real-world people is fine.

Have a Sora.

>>316106
My cute goddess idol gf!

>>319559
Nobody wants to collab with her, so she has to take the initiative

>>354756
Sora was invited to Kizuna Ai's birthday back in the day.

Classic Brown Eyes Sora > Neo-sora

>>373530
Everyone wants to collab with Soda. No one wants to ask because they all boost her up on a pedestal, something she herself has spoken out against.

I like this cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIov4qdYic
She should sing more often.

>>316106
I always watch her streams if I'm awake. If I manage to catch one of her utawaku, it's an extra special day. There's just no point of sora posting in the general threads because they're a place for miserable people who hate everything.

Sora is very sweet but honestly she just kinda plain
Nothing bad about her or anything but she just get overshadowed by other members with much larger and flamboyant personalities

>>381339
This. I don't think yagoo has realised that when you watch a character, it's actually for their character. Fairy tale idols are a throwback to an age without immediate, live, interactive media.

She is underrated because the things that she is good at isn't really what made hololive viral. People normally go for the endurance steams, the mad skills, the funny retellings, the pranks, the rage modes and whatnot. Sora is a normie that happens to love music and idol stuff that occasionally games. If you are into that then you are in luck. It's like with Akirose, Aki is pretty much like Sora but more mature and replace minecraft with ark. Underrated is subjective desu. They are all successful in some way of form. Just because they don't get in double digits of live views does not mean they are not raking in monetary gains. All are very marketable.

I'm not really intrested in the "muh pure, innocent, unspoiled girl" trope

Doesn't she actually make a lot of money through concerts in Japan?
I thought she is just underrated as a streamer but if you take her other live performences into account she is actually one of the more popular hololive girls.

>>382459
>>384423
You guys make it sound like you think Sora is LARPing harder than the others. What makes you think that a shitposter idol routine is somehow more "real" than a seiso idol routine?

>>387305
>What makes you think that a shitposter idol routine is somehow more "real" than a seiso idol routine?
Someone browsing Reddit for memes or unintentionally revealing she browses 5ch and numberfags is entirely believable.

>>316106
It's because in the West, Yagoo replaced Sora as the face of Hololive. Like, even when Sora finally had her "meme moment" during the Coco collab, everyone just made jokes about Yagoo's idol dream going down the shitter, followed by his "debut" going viral.