/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3606530
remember the holocaust

>>3606530
I guess because Hololive is a Japanese company and there is probably a different set of rules for Japan. In the West there is fair use and all that so trying to restrict streaming stuff would result in law suits and all that while in Japan you have to do the front flip begging move to be allowed to stream anything if you are going to significantly profit from it.

>>3606548
Your gay

>>3606530
What is the Holocaust?

>>3606530
>Please note this policy is a guideline for using game footage of our titles. It is not
intended to be, nor should be considered as, express permission nor an official license or authorization for you
to create mods or derivative works of Capcom titles or content.
>Guideline
>not intended nor considered as permission

>>3606630
the most elaborate jewish trickery

>>3606530
Looks pretty straightforward. Why cant she play with the english dub?

>>3606630
Fictions

>>3607081
Probably choosing to not do so? Coco plays Rise with the English Dub so it’s probably a preference thing.

Also I imagine the permissions thing is a requirement if they want to be able to monetize the videos and make money via superchats.

>>3607445
Maybe youre a fucking retard??

>>3607467
Huh, did not know that was the case for her. I know she played DMCV with the JP subtitles so I assumed it was a similar situation.

>>3607467
Maybe it's just a hololive thing. Pikamee was able to play it with EN voice + JP subs just fine.

>>3606659
This. Those guidelines don't actually mean anything besides "We might not strike you if you follow these, but still reserve the right to do so." Cover requires express written permission from the rightsholder so that it is legally defined that they won't face repercussion for streaming the content.

>>3607081
The rrat is that it has something to do with the voice actors union.

>>3607659
Indies aren't as big of a target as corporations like Hololive or Nijisanji. She probably doesn't have permission and also doesn't give a shit because Capcom most likely wont strike an indie. They sure as fuck would strike Cover though.

>>3607467
Now that's just silly.

>>3607467
Based memberchad btfo the poorfags nigger

>>3607467
>Only 11K

Kek. That's a pretty poor membership number

>>3606591
I think streaming games is allowed because game companies allow it in their terms of service. Most of the companies know it brings in more money for them if popular e-celebs stream their games.

But the music industry is different. They won't let streamers, movies or radio stations play their songs without their say so, and they want royalties being paid to them if money is made from playing the song. It's a whole different mode of operation.

That fact that we have these two extremes tells me that it's all up to the owner of the media. Fair use is irrelevant.

>>3607783
in the rare case you aren't baiting and are actualy just retarded
Pikamee is not an indie.

>>3609282
Oh yeah, two shut-ins and a jazz musician, HUGE company.

>>3609874
>company.
yes, thus not an indie

>>3606591
Hololive streamers are under corporate (Cover), so they have to follow different rules from your typical streamer or YT channel who are usually independent. This is usually because monetization is different. Money goes to Cover through the streamer, rather than to the streamer directly in the case of an individual streaming the game.

>>3607081
Voice permissions are likely a result of the video game voice actor strike around 2017.

>>3606530
Paranoia. They can play basically any game made by a Western studio without needing permission, as every other content does, but they still want written permission.

>>3606591
Streaming doesn't actually fall unto fair use, its why Nintendo and Atlus are able to DMCA streams and gameplay.

>>3610114
how much of the money actually goes to the streamer? feels like people are getting scammed hard

>>3606530
>not even proper "permissions"
>unilateral from Capcom, they can change it at any time and fuck you over

>>3610351
I don't remember all the details, but YT takes a 30% cut from SCs. The rest I believe gets redistributed through the company to pay for personnel, and the Holomember's salary (because they are salaried apparently).

Holomembers take a larger cut of money through merchandise sales and voice packs. On some occasions they have to pay out of pocket for their own projects (i.e.: Lamy's Sake) but most of the money they make from that goes back to them.

English voice behind paywall of US Voice Actor Union.

No pay then no permission to monetized it.

>>3606530
They work for a Japanese company that pays them, and Capcom's streaming policy in Japan extrictly prohibits it:

>法人(プロダクション所属の個人含む)が動画を配信する場合はこの限りではありません。
>This does not apply when corporations (including individuals belonging to production) broadcast videos.

>ビジネス目的での使用:法人(プロダクション所属の個人含む)が許可を得ずにコンテンツを使用することはできません。
> Content may not be used by corporations (including individuals belonging to production) without permission.

>>https://www.capcom.co.jp/game/video-policy/

Because they could take that down the next day

>>3611083
japanese must be the most inefficient language in the world

>>3610794
For Holo specifically, the usual cut is according to Coco is 30% YT, 35% Cover, 35% Streamer. That 35% is on top of the salary. A few (I think Pekora is one) have supposedly negotiated larger cuts.

>>3610351
I don't know why people keep saying this.
Without the hololive branding Gura would be drinking herself to death right now.
That branding is worth way more than the money they're bringing in.

>>3606530
Because they can still copyright strike you anyways.

>>3611821
its crazy that the streaming platforms keep getting away with so big fees. web hosting is a industry where only 1% of the income goes to operation costs and everything else is profit

>>3611905
why? one that is capable of performing in front of such large audiences would be doing well irl too

>>3612062
ad revenue from HER is nothing in comparision to the akasupas that Gura is getting. people care about branding and how a product is packaged.

>shareholders making money from lets play
go figure, game companies probably don't want to give free money to other companies

it's not rocket science anon

>>3612150
nothing new then. apple was a thing way before these but i will never understand how the sheep brain works. a famous brand just does not equal good quality

>>3612272
good quality does not equal profitability

>>3610351
>>3611821

We still don't know about membership numbers though, but I want to say I heard that cover/youtube take a smaller cut.
If thats the case, then even conservatively speaking in the case of >>3607467 if 70% of all members voted on this (unlikely) Gura is looking around 15,000 members, with a membership cost of $5/mo that's a shit ton of money rolling in.

>>3612021
Youtube operates at a loss.

>>3612421
now less so thanks to this livestream fad. its the normal free content that is bringing the profitability down

>>3606530
https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4
OP and half the thread is retarded.

>>3608865
Make that 11k+1, because I never bother to like members posts, as I'm sure happens with many other members.

>>3608865
what kind of world do we live in if some rando having 11k paying followers is a considered bad?

>>3609999
Their website states they are a group of individuals, not a company.

The fact that Gyari only takes a cut of merch sales also probably keeps them off of Capcom's hit list.

>>3612383
YouTube also takes 30% from membership. Cover might have a different split for membership revenue or they may just bundle all YouTube revenue into the same 50/50 split, nobody really knows.

>>3613229
oh you are right
i wonder how the whole thing is legaly set up then. is it like an individual paying freelancers then? is it considerd a job or would they legaly be neets?

>>3612505
sure, but still a loss. Just pointing out that if your complaint about the web hosting industry making bank due to big fees combined with low operating costs is directed at youtube, it is false. They are not making bank on their platform, they're happy to break even.

>>3613517
it was about the whole industry. everything is insanely overpriced but they spend almost nothing on the infra. just look at something like the famous american comcast. people pay them over $100 per month for something that they installed many decades ago and the profits that company makes are insane

>>3613503
Probably just self employment from Pikamee's end. The contract with Giyari under VOMS is probably closer to a "Terms of Agreement" sort of thing requiring a certain amount of streams in exchange for use of the avatar. (And not breaking whatever rules Monoe managed to break)

>>3613968
one of the rumors going around was that Monoe is a goverment employe so she wasnt aloved to have a side job which is why i wonder if it even would legaly count as a side job when they aren't being paid by Giyari

>>3606530
Minimum $55k a month is amazing, even if she only gets 1/3 of that. Probably makes more in a month than 80% of the global population does in a year.

>>3614269
technology turned this world into something that i would rather not know about

>>3607411
>Fictions
>tfw witnessed this 'fiction' with my own eyes
It still haunts my dreams, bros.

>>3614412
you just forgot your schizo pills again

>>3614502
>It's another '/pol/tard calls other schizos' episode.

>>3614412
Nigger are you fucking 90?

>>3606630
An over hyped event